17er Saints and Martyrs

[Totally not Taffy]

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Welcome to the Valentine game, thank you for signing up!


Rules and information:


Phases are 48/24, the game starts tomorrow 12 February and SoD/EoD is at 15:00 CET (this should be 9am in New York and 1am in Canberra)
Please respect the 50 posts per day postcap, it will be released one hour before EoD.
Please use the Vote: Taffy format. As usual, :00 posts/votes are good, :01 posts/votes bad.
Tied votes will be decided at random.
Starting D2 you will be able to end the day early with a majority vote, but not before every living player has posted.
Please do not post at night or after dying unless you have a power that explicitly says you can.
Please do not quote or screenshot from discord or other forms of host communication. Paraphrasing is fine.
Please do not talk to the other players outside of the channels I created for that purpose.
Please don't edit posts.
Night actions are due one hour before SoD.
The following roles are not part of the setup: Serial Killer, Survivor, Jester, Miller, Godfather, Janitor, Cultist or other sources of fake flips/recruitment.
You will receive your roles shortly through discord dm, and they will have one of the following formats:



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If your circumstances have changed and you cannot play, please tell me before game start and I will try to find a sub for you.
Any players who zero post D1 and are unresponsive on discord will be mod killed N1 showing alignment only. If this happens to a PR the role will get reranded.
Please be respectful of your fellow players. Remember to attack arguments, not people.




Player List (unspoiled)

Ender
Visor
Wisdom
Syn
Raskolnikov
Dyachei
Murska
Logic
Arctic
Ladd
Vanta Black
Jan
Zack
GH
Hally
Benneh
Gemma



Links:

Day 1: 24hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853959&viewfull=1#post2053853959) 36hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854160&viewfull=1#post2053854160) 47hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854255&viewfull=1#post2053854255) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854339&viewfull=1#post2053854339)
Day 2: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854344&viewfull=1#post2053854344) 12hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854588&viewfull=1#post2053854588) 24hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854635&viewfull=1#post2053854635) 39hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854750&viewfull=1#post2053854750) 47hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854831&viewfull=1#post2053854831) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854989&viewfull=1#post2053854989)
Day 3: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854995&viewfull=1#post2053854995) 12hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855109&viewfull=1#post2053855109) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855182&viewfull=1#post2053855182)
Day 4: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855186&viewfull=1#post2053855186) 12hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855255&viewfull=1#post2053855255) 24hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855353&viewfull=1#post2053855353) 36hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855437&viewfull=1#post2053855437) 47hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855482&viewfull=1#post2053855482) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855542&viewfull=1#post2053855542)
Day 5: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855546&viewfull=1#post2053855546) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855737&viewfull=1#post2053855737)
Day 6: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855740&viewfull=1#post2053855740) 12hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855869&viewfull=1#post2053855869) 24hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855902&viewfull=1#post2053855902) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856035&viewfull=1#post2053856035)
Day 7: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856038&viewfull=1#post2053856038) 12hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856065&viewfull=1#post2053856065) 36hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856156&viewfull=1#post2053856156) 47hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856179&viewfull=1#post2053856179) Final VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856247&viewfull=1#post2053856247)
Day 8: Start (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856256&viewfull=1#post2053856256) 24hr VC (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856290&viewfull=1#post2053856290) End (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856400&viewfull=1#post2053856400)

Flips (spoiled)

D1: Syn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854340&viewfull=1#post2053854340) (mafia backup)
N1: Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854343&viewfull=1#post2053854343) (vanilla town)
D2: Visor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854990&viewfull=1#post2053854990) (mafia PR)
N2: Jan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053854994&viewfull=1#post2053854994) (town PR)
D3: GH (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855183&viewfull=1#post2053855183) (vanilla town)
N3: Ladd (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855185&viewfull=1#post2053855185) (town PR)
D4: Logic (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855543&viewfull=1#post2053855543) (vanilla town)
D5: Gemma (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855738&viewfull=1#post2053855738) (mafia PR)
N5: Murska (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053855739&viewfull=1#post2053855739) (town PR)
D6: Wisdom (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856036&viewfull=1#post2053856036) (vanilla town)
N6: Benneh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856037&viewfull=1#post2053856037) (vanilla town)
D7: Vanta (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856248&viewfull=1#post2053856248) (vanilla town)
N7: Raskolnikov (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856255&viewfull=1#post2053856255) (vanilla town)
D8: Ender (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856402&viewfull=1#post2053856402) (vanilla town)
Alive: Arctic (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856403&viewfull=1#post2053856403) (vanilla town)
Alive: Dyachei (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856404&viewfull=1#post2053856404) (vanilla town)
Alive: Hally (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053856405&viewfull=1#post2053856405) (wolf PR)

[Totally not Taffy]

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Dear Readers,

It is with great joy that I present to you my humble collection of hagiographies of some of our lesser-known (though certainly not lesser!) saints and martyrs. Together we shall explore the exciting lives of these exalted defenders of the faith and their often woeful yet immer inspiring demise.

My sincerest thanks go to Professor Doctor Emeritus Chaton, whose depth of knowledge on the subject was invaluable in tracking down and verifying some of the more obscure stories I am proud to include here, and without whose feedback my work could not boast half its academic merit. Of course none of it had been possible without the relentless support of my husband, whose cooking kept me going through the darkest hours of my research. Finally, all my love to my cat Arwen, forever ready to pur in my lap and walk on my keyboard to provide the necessary breaks.

Without further ado, let's get started!


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Pings

EnderWiggin
Visor
Wisdom
Syn
Raskolnikov
dyachei
Murska
Logic
Arctic
ladd
Vanta Black
Jan
Zack
GeneralHankerchief
Hally
nebjiamn
Gemma



Good Luck & Have Fun!

[Jan]

cat!

[Raskolnikov]

Sup friendos

[EnderWiggin]

cat!

dog

[Jan]

dog

wolf?

[Arctic]

hi
i won't usually be around at this time but i have a break between classes and nothing to do at this moment so i've elected to be the bozo who wastes half their posts during the start of the phase

umm anyway
wow this playerlist is kinda scary i'm glad i didn't rand mafia.. haha

[EnderWiggin]

wolf?

Coyote!

[EnderWiggin]

This is your Totally Not Sus Post-Rand Reminder that EOD/SOD is 1am for me so good luck me being around when it happens.

... What do you mean "that means I'm awake at 1am right now". Shut up.

[Jan]

hi
i won't usually be around at this time but i have a break between classes and nothing to do at this moment so i've elected to be the bozo who wastes half their posts during the start of the phase

umm anyway
wow this playerlist is kinda scary i'm glad i didn't rand mafia.. haha

haha!
Yeah right.

good luck. you will need it.

[Arctic]

man i have nothing funny to say this sucks

[Jan]

This is your Totally Not Sus Post-Rand Reminder that EOD/SOD is 1am for me so good luck me being around when it happens.

... What do you mean "that means I'm awake at 1am right now". Shut up.

Just commit to the selfvote early and hope the is no cfd.

[Raskolnikov]

wow this playerlist is kinda scary i'm glad i didn't rand mafia.. haha

vote: Arctic

[Raskolnikov]

*haha

:curtain:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hardclaim Insane Bus Driver

I pick two people to shield and the actual bus drive is randed between everyone else still alive

tremble in fury at my powers over order and chaos :cthulhu:

[Arctic]

vote: Arctic

i just said i didn't rand mafia.... why would you vote me.... i wouldn't lie.................

[Jan]

Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..

What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?

Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.

[Arctic]

i'm so gonna get killed for these posts wow
i can't entertain myself in rvs without being avoidably wolfy

[Jan]

i'm so gonna get killed for these posts wow
i can't entertain myself in rvs without being avoidably wolfy

At least you are purposefully wolfy! Imagine if you couldn't help yourself. That would be rather embarrassing.

[Arctic]

Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..

What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?

Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.

dead by daylight is my favourite nicholas cage movie

[Jan]

dead by daylight is my favourite nicholas cage movie

You could have said "Goo Goo Dolls - Iris" and made your mom proud while still being a quirky weirdo.

To each their own.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..

What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?

Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.

Nic Cage's greatness cannot be confined to a mere movie. I, erudite Cage connoisseur that I am (:toff:), prefer this montage of his best freakouts:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S73swRzxs8Y

[Jan]

He might be the only white dude who can make a non-racist black-face work.

[Zack]

Ladd McConkey brings all the athleticism and route-running traits to be a high-quality receiver, but size and strength could limit his potential.

Ladd is one of the better route-runners in the 2024 draft class. His quick feet, smooth hips and instant acceleration allow him to run any route effectively. Ladd particularly excelled running digs, posts and comebacks at Georgia thanks to his acceleration, which helped him put defensive backs on their back foot immediately. The detail in many of his routes is advanced for a player his age.

On top of that, Ladd shows solid hands. He has the concentration ability to find the ball and hang onto it through traffic, which will be of great value for someone who does most of their work to the intermediate range.

However, Ladd loses plenty of reps for one reason or another due to his lack of size and strength.

At the line of scrimmage, Ladd has no ability to fight through contact or use his frame to push off DBs. There are too many instances where a DB gets hands on Ladd and the rep is over right away.

Likewise, Ladd is not a ball-winner in the air. He just does not have the length, strength or explosive leaping ability to go up for the ball in the air. Contested catches will not be in his bag of tricks in the NFL.

Ladd can be a good slot/Z type in the NFL. He can play both inside and out, he is a highly effective route-runner and his hands are reliable enough. With that said, Ladd's lack of size and strength will likely limit him to being a complementary piece rather than a core part of his future offense.

GRADE: 7.1 (High-Level Backup/Potential Starter — 3rd Round)

OVERALL RANK: 65

POSITION RANK: WR12

PRO COMPARISON: Diontae Johnson

[Raskolnikov]

Zack's memeing about Ladd and GH hosting Cage's movie reviews, Arctic in shambles. woofs outed folks. Will be quick :curtain:

[Raskolnikov]

nah, I am only serious about Arctic.

https://media.tenor.com/38yqJMsnFuMAAAAM/nic-cage-nicolas-cage.gif

[Murska]

Hi all.

vote: Arctic

Who's that Case Aniclog?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ladd McConkey brings all the athleticism and route-running traits to be a high-quality receiver, but size and strength could limit his potential.

Ladd is one of the better route-runners in the 2024 draft class. His quick feet, smooth hips and instant acceleration allow him to run any route effectively. Ladd particularly excelled running digs, posts and comebacks at Georgia thanks to his acceleration, which helped him put defensive backs on their back foot immediately. The detail in many of his routes is advanced for a player his age.

On top of that, Ladd shows solid hands. He has the concentration ability to find the ball and hang onto it through traffic, which will be of great value for someone who does most of their work to the intermediate range.

However, Ladd loses plenty of reps for one reason or another due to his lack of size and strength.

At the line of scrimmage, Ladd has no ability to fight through contact or use his frame to push off DBs. There are too many instances where a DB gets hands on Ladd and the rep is over right away.

Likewise, Ladd is not a ball-winner in the air. He just does not have the length, strength or explosive leaping ability to go up for the ball in the air. Contested catches will not be in his bag of tricks in the NFL.

Ladd can be a good slot/Z type in the NFL. He can play both inside and out, he is a highly effective route-runner and his hands are reliable enough. With that said, Ladd's lack of size and strength will likely limit him to being a complementary piece rather than a core part of his future offense.

GRADE: 7.1 (High-Level Backup/Potential Starter — 3rd Round)

OVERALL RANK: 65

POSITION RANK: WR12

PRO COMPARISON: Diontae Johnson

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[Arctic]

You could have said "Goo Goo Dolls - Iris" and made your mom proud while still being a quirky weirdo.

To each their own.

I understood that reference! good song!


Hi all.

vote: Arctic

Who's that Case Aniclog?

quick somebody else vote me so i can tunnel someone with the justification being an arbitrary tell that the first 3-vote wagon contains exactly 1 wolf (ignore that this tends to be the true just because of statistics!)

[nebjiamn]

howdy

[nebjiamn]

this game is going to last like 3 weeks i regret signing up already

[Zack]

vote: nebjiamn

Ur done kiddo. Hit the bricks. Holster your sidearm pal. Take a lap pal. Welcome to the fuckin show, bud.

[nebjiamn]

vote: nebjiamn

Ur done kiddo. Hit the bricks. Holster your sidearm pal. Take a lap pal. Welcome to the fuckin show, bud.
Grrrr! visible frustration

[nebjiamn]

Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..

What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?

Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.
face\off

i could watch nic cage eat a peach for hours

[Hally]

https://i.imgur.com/1eyLM0x_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand

the prompt was “patrick star, a general, an australian man with a visor and an italian boxer hang out in their lair” but it kept refusing to generate the italian boxer, sorry ladd :curtain:

[Logic]

Checking in. Will post more when I see more content. I can't tryhard so soon.

[Logic]

https://i.imgur.com/1eyLM0x_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand

the prompt was “patrick star, a general, an australian man with a visor and an italian boxer hang out in their lair” but it kept refusing to generate the italian boxer, sorry ladd :curtain:

I dunno, that guy in the sunglasses and sombrero looks like he's wearing a boxer's silk robe.
(Also, hally w for posting AI "art." #debatetakes)

[Zack]

https://i.imgur.com/1eyLM0x_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand

the prompt was “patrick star, a general, an australian man with a visor and an italian boxer hang out in their lair” but it kept refusing to generate the italian boxer, sorry ladd :curtain:

Why'd the AI give Patrick nipple clamps

but when I try to get an image of Kermit the frog saying "it's Britney bitch" that's too inappropriate? :shame:

[ladd]

Do we really need 48 hours to lunch visor?

[ladd]

this game is going to last like 3 weeks i regret signing up already

You wont play 3 weeks if you are a villager

Wolfy perspective :curtain:

[nebjiamn]

You wont play 3 weeks if you are a villager

Wolfy perspective :curtain:
you haven't seen me village in a while :curtain:

[Zack]

Weaknesses
Character Concerns - McConkey is playing a mafia game when he should be focused on training for the combine. Does he take football seriously enough to be a successful pro?

[Raskolnikov]

Do we really need 48 hours to lunch visor?

Not D2 :curtain:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Did some followup reading on the sequel to Twister whose existence I first head about last night and I'm not sure if this is the single greatest or worst thing I've ever seen:


Tyler enjoys chasing tornadoes, a dangerous feat with little-to-no reward other than…local notoriety? But that could all change when Kate Cooper (Edgar-Jones) offers up a new idea: They could destroy the first tornado, forever changing weather history.

But destroying a tornado is not exactly easy. I mean, a tornado isn’t an easily demolishable building—it’s a quickly moving storm system with the ability to kill many. But with the Tornado Wrangler on her side, Kate sets forth on a mission to capture not one but two huge windstorms hurtling towards the nearby area.

[Hally]

Why'd the AI give Patrick nipple clamps

but when I try to get an image of Kermit the frog saying "it's Britney bitch" that's too inappropriate? :shame:
maybe patrick likes nipple clamps, don’t be so judgmental :thwack:

[Logic]

Weaknesses
Character Concerns - McConkey is playing a mafia game when he should be focused on training for the combine. Does he take football seriously enough to be a successful pro?

Weaknesses, but no strengths?

(Any answer you give will be met with "wolfy excuse")

[Wisdom]

Iiiii
Time is hard
C'ya in 15 hours ??
Hype!

[Wisdom]

Also ladd is a wolf

[Zack]

Okay this is boring, time for a brief flicker of tryharding to kick the game into action and collect sufficient towncred for me to cash in whilst saving my wolfbreaux at EOD (editor's note: lol 8 AM eod, don't expect me there).

:book2:

#6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853573&viewfull=1#post2053853573) - soulread this as a villagy response, don't hold me to it, it's a terrible read, it's 98% not real (but 2% real, just like the 2% milk Kai Leng uses when he breaks into your apartment and eats your cereal1). :dunce:

#7 - I've already given up on linking posts, go read the thread if you wanna know what I'm referring to nerd. Wolfy self-awareness (0% real), plus having a "break between classes" that early in the morning is truly unhinged if you're a college student in a US time zone so I earnestly hope you're European or something. :no:

#8 - Forgive me for reading into a meaningless shitpost, but this is a weird response by vibes to a playful accusation that you're a wolf. Not how a villager would respond ldo, and the gratuitous exclamation mark is a clear marker of nefarious intent. :rtwno:

#14 - :curtain:

#17 - Goo Goo Dolls - Iris

#18 - this post stinks ~:handball:

#23 - :sick:

#24 - wow good post

#26, #27 - mildly villagy posts (though i don't understand murska's last line :rolleyes4:)

#28 - :bow:

1 The over/under on the amount of people who will get this joke is 1.5, and the under is the heavy early betting favorite.

Okay enough of that.

Vote: Logic

#36 - I generally think it's a bit wolfy when people enter a game already making excuses like this, feeling defensive and making sure people don't get on your case? (I know this was delivered in a somewhat jokey manner but it still is a weird entrance.)

#37, #46 - The tenor of these jokes is wolfy and the fake w reads come across like forced joke content to have something to post

Also 1-2 in GH and ladd is probably a wolf or a serial killer or something (mystery % real)

:coffeenews:

[nebjiamn]

Also ladd is a wolf
nice, i cant wait to defend him

[nebjiamn]

Okay this is boring, time for a brief flicker of tryharding to kick the game into action and collect sufficient towncred for me to cash in whilst saving my wolfbreaux at EOD (editor's note: lol 8 AM eod, don't expect me there).

:book2:

#6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853573&viewfull=1#post2053853573) - soulread this as a villagy response, don't hold me to it, it's a terrible read, it's 98% not real (but 2% real, just like the 2% milk Kai Leng uses when he breaks into your apartment and eats your cereal1). :dunce:

#7 - I've already given up on linking posts, go read the thread if you wanna know what I'm referring to nerd. Wolfy self-awareness (0% real), plus having a "break between classes" that early in the morning is truly unhinged if you're a college student in a US time zone so I earnestly hope you're European or something. :no:

#8 - Forgive me for reading into a meaningless shitpost, but this is a weird response by vibes to a playful accusation that you're a wolf. Not how a villager would respond ldo, and the gratuitous exclamation mark is a clear marker of nefarious intent. :rtwno:

#14 - :curtain:

#17 - Goo Goo Dolls - Iris

#18 - this post stinks ~:handball:

#23 - :sick:

#24 - wow good post

#26, #27 - mildly villagy posts (though i don't understand murska's last line :rolleyes4:)

#28 - :bow:

1 The over/under on the amount of people who will get this joke is 1.5, and the under is the heavy early betting favorite.

Okay enough of that.

Vote: Logic

#36 - I generally think it's a bit wolfy when people enter a game already making excuses like this, feeling defensive and making sure people don't get on your case? (I know this was delivered in a somewhat jokey manner but it still is a weird entrance.)

#37, #46 - The tenor of these jokes is wolfy and the fake w reads come across like forced joke content to have something to post

Also 1-2 in GH and ladd is probably a wolf or a serial killer or something (mystery % real)

:coffeenews:
i was legitimately surprised 36, 37, and 46 mapped to logic/real wolf reads

are you actually reading this game WTF!!

[Zack]

i was legitimately surprised 36, 37, and 46 mapped to logic/real wolf reads

lmfao

[GeneralHankerchief]

#6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154944-17er-Saints-and-Martyrs?p=2053853573&viewfull=1#post2053853573) - soulread this as a villagy response, don't hold me to it, it's a terrible read, it's 98% not real (but 2% real, just like the 2% milk Kai Leng uses when he breaks into your apartment and eats your cereal1). :dunce:

Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

:curtain:

[Zack]

i was legitimately surprised 36, 37, and 46 mapped to logic/real wolf reads

are you actually reading this game WTF!!

wait you actually were looking at the posts i referenced?

are you actually reading this game WTF!!

[nebjiamn]

Playerlist ranked by dog name potential


Elite Dog names
GeneralHankerchief
Wisdom
ladd


Decent dog names
Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin
Visor


Potentially good depending on the dog/breed
Logic
Arctic
dyachei


Human-y but still decent for some pups
Hally
Gemma


Human-y and not good for pups
Jan
Zack


Just downright bad
nebjiamn
murska
vanta black
Syn

[Hally]

mfw zack doesn’t lock town read me for making two shitposts

https://media4.giphy.com/media/yoJC2Olx0ekMy2nX7W/200.webp?cid=6c09b952okz87pyy20t29nswkax5x1w0m5xpu3xgpddudzxt&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=200.webp&ct=g

[Zack]

benneh, you may sit on this council, and further we grant you the rank of master.

lock v never rescinding glgl im gonna dvc warrior so hard when benneh is actually a wolf and blame everyone for not killing him even though i locked him v and never reconsidered :chucks:

[Hally]

Playerlist ranked by dog name potential


Elite Dog names
GeneralHankerchief
Wisdom
ladd


Decent dog names
Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin
Visor


Potentially good depending on the dog/breed
Logic
Arctic
dyachei


Human-y but still decent for some pups
Hally
Gemma


Human-y and not good for pups
Jan
Zack


Just downright bad
nebjiamn
murska
vanta black
Syn
hally is a great dog name you absolute cretin

[nebjiamn]

benneh, you may sit on this council, and further we grant you the rank of master.

lock v never rescinding glgl im gonna dvc warrior so hard when benneh is actually a wolf and blame everyone for not killing him even though i locked him v and never reconsidered :chucks:
:bow:



:bow:
:bow:

:bow:

[nebjiamn]

hally is a great dog name you absolute cretin
ur right, i forgot you were such a good example of this. my bad

[Hally]

ur right, i forgot you were such a good example of this. my bad
i’m interpreting this as a roundabout way of calling me a bitch ~:mecry:

[nebjiamn]

ok, no, that's actually way meaner than i intended that to sound lol

i am not that cruel

[GeneralHankerchief]

ok, no, that's actually way meaner than i intended that to sound lol

i am not that cruel

I am

hally, you are a
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.:curtain:

[Raskolnikov]

Playerlist ranked by dog name potential


Elite Dog names
GeneralHankerchief
Wisdom
ladd


Decent dog names
Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin
Visor


Potentially good depending on the dog/breed
Logic
Arctic
dyachei


Human-y but still decent for some pups
Hally
Gemma


Human-y and not good for pups
Jan
Zack


Just downright bad
nebjiamn
murska
vanta black
Syn

lmfao. Complete nonsense, I love it.

(funny what a post from GH calling you a wolf can do :curtain:)

[GeneralHankerchief]

lmfao. Complete nonsense, I love it.

(funny what a post from GH calling you a wolf can do :curtain:)

sir, I most protest, I have not made a single game-relevant post so far (aside from my opener ofc) and certainly not anything that would contain so vulgar and garish as a read. You must have me confused with Zack and there's a chance that there's potentially something to be read into said confusing of the two names but that would be game-relevant and thus beyond my purview. :scholar:

[Raskolnikov]

(funny what a post from GH calling you a wolf can do :curtain:)

Hum, it was a post from ladd actually.

[Raskolnikov]

lol I was midly amused by me correcting a nonsense joke about a nonsense post but here we are GH :p

[Zack]

sir, I most protest, I have not made a single game-relevant post so far (aside from my opener ofc) and certainly not anything that would contain so vulgar and garish as a read. You must have me confused with Zack

i assume you intentionally said this immediately after a post that is probably a carbon copy of a sentence i've posted in several games around this point on d1

[GeneralHankerchief]

i assume you intentionally said this immediately after a post that is probably a carbon copy of a sentence i've posted in several games around this point on d1

I actually didn't, at least not intentionally, but I'm sure there was probably some subconscious nonsense going around that helped guide me toward making that post.

Good, you clicked through this second spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

:curtain:

[Hally]

i keep clicking gh’s spoilers thinking it will be something and then it’s the same fuckin joke every time :stare:

[GeneralHankerchief]

i keep clicking gh’s spoilers thinking it will be something and then it’s the same fuckin joke every time :stare:

there were TWO notable differences in the most recent one tyvm

[Zack]

sir, I most protest, I have not made a single game-relevant post so far (aside from my opener ofc) and certainly not anything that would contain so vulgar and garish as a read. You must have me confused with GeneralHankerchief

Okay but in all seriousness, I do have a read on Hally I want let marinate in the thread, swirl it around in my glass to see how it feels, etc. but I'll spoiler it so I don't break kayfabe / so people don't think I'm some dork who's already taking the game way too seriously.

Why do I love Darkstar so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Darkstar isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the? greatest character of all time. Just imaging him riding through the sands of Dorne, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him. As he rides through the red mountains, the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Planky Town under the the name of "Greenblood Orgasm." The very nature of Darkstar is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Darkstar is filled with such guile, such? arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Darkstar is not one that is easily penetrated. Darkstar is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the? page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Darkstar is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty. Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only? glimpse into the true machinations of Darkstar. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Darkstar is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Darkstar, the entire series, the entire world of Westeros as we know it crumbles. The Trident would stop flowing without Darkstar, the Reach would become a desolate crater, and the Wall would melt without his frosty gaze.

[GeneralHankerchief]

sir, I most protest, I have not made a single game-relevant post so far (aside from my opener ofc) and certainly not anything that would contain so vulgar and garish as a read. You must have me confused with GeneralHankerchief

Okay but in all seriousness, I do have a read on Hally I want let marinate in the thread, swirl it around in my glass to see how it feels, etc. but I'll spoiler it so I don't break kayfabe / so people don't think I'm some dork who's already taking the game way too seriously.

Why do I love Darkstar so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Darkstar isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the? greatest character of all time. Just imaging him riding through the sands of Dorne, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him. As he rides through the red mountains, the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Planky Town under the the name of "Greenblood Orgasm." The very nature of Darkstar is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Darkstar is filled with such guile, such? arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Darkstar is not one that is easily penetrated. Darkstar is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the? page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Darkstar is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty. Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only? glimpse into the true machinations of Darkstar. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Darkstar is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Darkstar, the entire series, the entire world of Westeros as we know it crumbles. The Trident would stop flowing without Darkstar, the Reach would become a desolate crater, and the Wall would melt without his frosty gaze.

WHY DO I LOVE DARKSTAR SO MUCH? IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT. DARKSTAR ISN'T JUST THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE SERIES, HE MIGHT JUST BE THE? GREATEST CHARACTER OF ALL TIME. JUST IMAGING HIM RIDING THROUGH THE SANDS OF DORNE, THE WIND IN HIS HAIR, HIS MIGHTY STEED BELOW HIM. AS HE RIDES THROUGH THE RED MOUNTAINS, THE LADIES SWOON AT HIS VERY SCENT. THEY KNOW HOW HE SMELLS, THE ESSENCE OF HIS SMELL IS SOLD IN PLANKY TOWN UNDER THE THE NAME OF "GREENBLOOD ORGASM." THE VERY NATURE OF DARKSTAR IS MYSTERY. COULD HE BE PLAYING A DEEPER GAME THAN EVEN HIS CREATOR REALIZES? THE ANSWER IS YES, HE HAS TRANSCENDED SUCH BOUNDARIES AS THE WRITTEN WORLD, AND HAS FREE WILL TO DO WHATEVER HE SEES FIT. HOWEVER, DARKSTAR IS FILLED WITH SUCH GUILE, SUCH? ARCANE CRAFT THAT HE DOES NOT EVEN USE THESE POWERS. WHY, YOU MIGHT ASK? YOU WILL NEVER KNOW, FOR THE MIND OF THE DARKSTAR IS NOT ONE THAT IS EASILY PENETRATED. DARKSTAR IS SUCH A FORCE OF NATURE IN HIS REALM THAT NOTHING CAN TRULY TOUCH HIM, THE ONLY THING KEEPING HIM BOUND TO THE? PAGE AT ALL IS HIS WILL TO EXIST WITHIN THE PREORDAINED BOUNDARIES OF HIS WORLD. DARKSTAR IS NOT ONLY BEYOND THE COMPREHENSION OF US, HE EXISTS WITHIN A PLANE OF TRUE FOCUS AND BEAUTY. OBSERVE HIS PLAYFUL SMILE, HIS GORGEOUS AND RIPPLING BICEPS, HIS GALLANT NOSE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HIS EYES. HIS EYES, LIKE POOLS OF SAFFRON, PROVIDE THE ONLY? GLIMPSE INTO THE TRUE MACHINATIONS OF DARKSTAR. DO NOT STARE INTO THEM. MANY GOOD MEN HAVE GONE MAD IN THE ATTEMPT. DARKSTAR IS NOT JUST A CHARACTER, A FORMLESS COLLECTION OF WORDS AND IMAGES, HE IS HIMSELF IS THE BINDING THAT HOLDS THE SAGA TOGETHER. WITHOUT DARKSTAR, THE ENTIRE SERIES, THE ENTIRE WORLD OF WESTEROS AS WE KNOW IT CRUMBLES. THE TRIDENT WOULD STOP FLOWING WITHOUT DARKSTAR, THE REACH WOULD BECOME A DESOLATE CRATER, AND THE WALL WOULD MELT WITHOUT HIS FROSTY GAZE.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGG_tj5XgAAp9g2.jpg

[GeneralHankerchief]

I am up for hosting a mafia game between 12-17 people (I think I settle on around 16-17).



KnightTime

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[CENTER]Type of game:
Small mafia game. This will be a indirect sequel to my first KnightTime I game.


Brief Background:

There has been a sudden strange wrap of time in the world, and many famous or semi-famous people have been transported to huge complex (Bascially a Hotel with razor wided laddend fences and guard towers). "The King" who he is called is alive and well and decided to bring all these characters to life or back from the dead. In order to get out, they must spend several nights in his "resort" because the King really likes these particular people and always wanted to meet them. But what they do not is that there are some characters that are more intersted in seeing them dead before they the murderers go back to whence they came. They must fight to stay alive.

This game isn't a fancy game and isn't made to be a "Beat ATPG's best game ever" mafia game. I am just doing this for fun. As long as I fix some last minute stuff, it will be a goofy (storyline wise) but (hopefully) half decent game.




Characters:
Here are just some of them;

He-Man
Batman
Joker
Spiderman
Jozef Simonyi
Croat Hussar
Hungarian Hussar
Frederick The Great
Tom
Jerry
Mr.Peanut
Evil clone of Mr.Peanut
NutCracker
Mumma-Ra















Sign-Ups (11):

autolycus
Amsel
Mr.Stuka (via PM)
Secura
Chaotix
Double A
spL1tp3r50naL1ty

Seon
B_Ray
robbiecon
King Jan III Sobieski (via PM)

[Hally]

I'm going to apologize for this one in advance but I hope you'll all humor me for a little while. This is a casual org game after all and I can't help but try and post in a way to properly honor the occasion. Who knows when I'll be back in this situation again.

I don't think it's a secret for most of you that my track record in reading Zack has been rather … well … awful thus far in our games. I did have one specific game where I recognized Zack was a villager and confidently (and happily!) let the world know. They flipped wolf. After our MU game together and then Org (both of which saw me find Zack’s eod wolfy and press there) I wanted to make a concentrated effort to finally read that slot correctly.

I spent some time today combing through recent-ish games of Zack’s. The wolf game on the Org website, the Cogpsy game over on the Syndicate one, and all sorts of mashes/smaller games through MU as well. Rocks fall, Best Flavor 13er, 18er SK, etc. You get the picture. All in all there were 16 different games I pulled isos from. I then went and ran through the isos extracting all the day one posts from the first half of the day, labeled them as W or V, and ran them through a bit of a homemade database that would do a few different things for me. One of the things was to make a word cloud which would count the number of times each word was used in these isos and make the word larger the more frequently it was used. For example:


https://i.imgur.com/yIGYqNy.png


Anyways, I separated the wolf isos from the villa isos and then removed things like articles (a, the, in, an, etc) as well as player names as those aren't really super relevant to our investigation and cross referenced them to see if anything word usage stood out as alignment indicative in the top 10 most common words. While there were small word choices favored it didn't seem super significant. What WAS significant were two other things:

One: While specific word choices weren't very telling I did notice a definitely trend of elegance in the wolf isos. The words may change but the idea remained the same. In wolf ISOs Zack had a habit of using larger, more elegant words whereas in the villa ISOs Zack just talked more casually. I'll call these Posts Exceedingly Elegant as we continue.

Two: Villager isos were much more full of observational posts rather than inquisitive ones. The wolf iso was full of open ended questions requesting elaboration. Not just directly to a specific player but also towards the thread at large asking if it saw what Zack was seeing. Meanwhile the villager iso was full of more pointed statement. It was telling the thread what Zack was seeing and making sure everyone understood. The village iso had a higher frequency – by a significant margin – of Posts Of Observation.


Again, I really want to get this right so I didn't stop there. Science isn't science until you write it down after all. I went ahead and charted the percentage of posts as a villager and as a wolf for both posts containing an elegant word and posts making observations. It's a bit crude but here's the quick jot down I made to visualize it:


https://i.imgur.com/qHn4GrS_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand


So I wanted to see how this one was shaping up. Remember, these were all taken from the first half of day one isos which we've made it past here. I went ahead and ran through Zack’s iso from this game, plotted the elegance and observational percentages on the chart, and ran the following equation to try and determine the exact percentage chance Zack has at being a wolf:

(Posts Exceedingly Elegant as a wolf)(Posts Exceedingly Elegant here) + (Posts of Observation as a villager)(Posts of Observation here) = the mathematical chance of Zack being a villager here (do 1-this for wolf obv).

Which looks something like this:


(Posts Exceedingly Elegant as a wolf)(Posts Exceedingly Elegant here) + (Posts of Observation as a villager)(Posts of Observation here)

Or written differently

PEEPEE POOPOO

[Zack]

the complete lack of engagement with my solid, earthy, unagenda'd wallpost in which I expertly asserted my beefy superiority on the game thread indicates we are living in 2 possible worlds:

1) the only people who've seen it are villagers and they truly don't give a shit, shut up zack, we're shiptoasting. okay fair enough. :tomato: :bow:

2) logic is a wolf and wolves are shook and want no part of touching my post and so have elected to ignore it, ipso facto no one is reacting whatsoever to the spurious reads and questionable takes contained elsewhere in the post, even though day 1 of a mafia game is explicitly ripe ground for 10 "well actually..."ers to nitpick the hell out of my carless thin reads ~:wave:

benneh likely a v for specifically drawing attention to it in the way he did in that world fwiw :7detective:

3) some mixture of the two. (in polite society you always list 3 things after indicating there are only 2 options :pirate2:)



in other news, wisdom making a nothing entrance post then an unexplained ladd wolfread and dipping is noted in italics (i'm not sure why it should be noted, or what to make of it, but it definitely feels like something that should be noted. i have my best people on this.)

[Raskolnikov]

the complete lack of engagement with my solid, earthy, unagenda'd wallpost in which I expertly asserted my beefy superiority on the game thread indicates we are living in 2 possible worlds:

1) the only people who've seen it are villagers and they truly don't give a shit, shut up zack, we're shiptoasting. okay fair enough. :tomato: :bow:

2) logic is a wolf and wolves are shook and want no part of touching my post and so have elected to ignore it, ipso facto no one is reacting whatsoever to the spurious reads and questionable takes contained elsewhere in the post, even though day 1 of a mafia game is explicitly ripe ground for 10 "well actually..."ers to nitpick the hell out of my carless thin reads ~:wave:

benneh likely a v for specifically drawing attention to it in the way he did in that world fwiw :7detective:

3) some mixture of the two. (in polite society you always list 3 things after indicating there are only 2 options :pirate2:)



in other news, wisdom making a nothing entrance post then an unexplained ladd wolfread and dipping is noted in italics (i'm not sure why it should be noted, or what to make of it, but it definitely feels like something that should be noted. i have my best people on this.)

4) villagers waiting for him to spew their partner (aka waiting for the bus)

5) people think you are a wolf :stare:

[Zack]

5) people think you are a wolf :stare:
no that's impossible

[Raskolnikov]

smth about hally here.

[Visor]

Checking in. Will post more when I see more content. I can't tryhard so soon.

Vote: logic

See you fellas tomorrow

[Jan]

the complete lack of engagement with my solid, earthy, unagenda'd wallpost in which I expertly asserted my beefy superiority on the game thread indicates we are living in 2 possible worlds:

1) the only people who've seen it are villagers and they truly don't give a shit, shut up zack, we're shiptoasting. okay fair enough. :tomato: :bow:

2) logic is a wolf and wolves are shook and want no part of touching my post and so have elected to ignore it, ipso facto no one is reacting whatsoever to the spurious reads and questionable takes contained elsewhere in the post, even though day 1 of a mafia game is explicitly ripe ground for 10 "well actually..."ers to nitpick the hell out of my carless thin reads ~:wave:

benneh likely a v for specifically drawing attention to it in the way he did in that world fwiw :7detective:

3) some mixture of the two. (in polite society you always list 3 things after indicating there are only 2 options :pirate2:)



in other news, wisdom making a nothing entrance post then an unexplained ladd wolfread and dipping is noted in italics (i'm not sure why it should be noted, or what to make of it, but it definitely feels like something that should be noted. i have my best people on this.)

You are correct on me and I had the same very slight feeling about ender.

I personally read Arctic as over-the-top wolfy. It felt more like bait than an actual wolf. Which is why I was not too fond of Murskas vote.
Not only that it is the combo of entering the thread, voting the person who is "howling", and dipping out.
While others are more ... playful?


I have no real opinion on logic. mostly because I forgot it happened and only just returned to an upright position.
After a quick reread I will admit that they are awkward.

As decidedly not one of your best people I am not on the wisdom case. Might ask for cliffs 24 hours from now.

[Hally]

ok we get it zack, you randed villager, now stfu so the people that actually know how to play mafia can shitpost in peace

fr though i did read your post, just couldn’t be assed to type out my thoughts that i’ve since already decided are probably all meaningless and dumb :clown: maybe i’ll try to get things moving when i get home if the game is still so slow but no promises

i’d do it now but i’m a wolf with logic and absolutely shat myself when i saw your post and still haven’t recovered

[Hally]

I personally read Arctic as over-the-top wolfy. It felt more like bait than an actual wolf. Which is why I was not too fond of Murskas vote.
Not only that it is the combo of entering the thread, voting the person who is "howling", and dipping out.
While others are more ... playful?
these were some of the thoughts i had earlier (both the arctic thing and murska thing) so congrats, you get a cookie :tongue:

not sure why zack said murska was villagery for that post

[Murska]

Uh huh. Are we getting into gameplay now?

I don't believe in 'I was just pretending to be a wolf as bait'. And then what, wolves will vote for you because you're acting suspicious? But also townies will vote for you because you're acting suspicious?

[dyachei]

sup

[Jan]

cat!

[Hally]

Uh huh. Are we getting into gameplay now?

I don't believe in 'I was just pretending to be a wolf as bait'. And then what, wolves will vote for you because you're acting suspicious? But also townies will vote for you because you're acting suspicious?
i don’t think arctic was intentionally trying to bait people (doubt that’s what jan meant either)

more so that arctic kept making posts one after another that he recognized were all terrible whereas if he was a wolf he might take more care to not come off that way

maybe a dumb read though, ymmv :shrug:

[Zack]

these were some of the thoughts i had earlier (both the arctic thing and murska thing) so congrats, you get a cookie :tongue:

not sure why zack said murska was villagery for that post

because entering with an immediate vote, refusing to elaborate (while also clearly not a throwaway RVS vote), and leaving is probably more likely to be from a villager imo

the target of his vote didnt factor, it just gave me slight vibes of "he probably legitimately believes this is a good vote"

i can see #84 as either "villager stubbornly insisting someone being weird is wolfy even though it probably doesn't mean anything" or a wolf doing the same thing, they often look similar and murska is an old-school guy from GITP and frankly it wouldn't surprise me at all if he made that post as either alignment.

murska and arctic seems like an unlikely w/w pairing, though. hot take alert.

[Murska]

Sure, I'm not saying Arctic is 100% wolf and absolutely needs to die. But how're we better to figure that out without putting in votes and actually threatening people with death so they'll say something under pressure that we can judge? I'm disappointed we have so many people who've entered the thread, several hours of game time and no proper bandwagons on anyone, or even 'random' votes.

I may be getting old, but I've got other hobbies and games I'm spending my time on, I don't really care to post here if I don't have anything to say.

[Syn]

Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..

What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?

Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.

con air

it's lots of fun

[Syn]

Playerlist ranked by dog name potential


Elite Dog names
GeneralHankerchief
Wisdom
ladd


Decent dog names
Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin
Visor


Potentially good depending on the dog/breed
Logic
Arctic
dyachei


Human-y but still decent for some pups
Hally
Gemma


Human-y and not good for pups
Jan
Zack


Just downright bad
nebjiamn
murska
vanta black
Syn

i would be a great dog name wtf

[Syn]

i was bamboozled and forced to read copypasta walls on the 3rd page instead of 4th

not that i actually read them but it's the principle

[Syn]

i was bamboozled and forced to read copypasta walls on the 3rd page instead of 4th

not that i actually read them but it's the principle

instead of 1st

anyway

[Jan]

Sure, I'm not saying Arctic is 100% wolf and absolutely needs to die. But how're we better to figure that out without putting in votes and actually threatening people with death so they'll say something under pressure that we can judge? I'm disappointed we have so many people who've entered the thread, several hours of game time and no proper bandwagons on anyone, or even 'random' votes.

I may be getting old, but I've got other hobbies and games I'm spending my time on, I don't really care to post here if I don't have anything to say.

Fair.

I simply started thinking arctic read wolfy at first then turned my read around and read it as an easy excuse to vote for lazy wolves - and you voted for him.

And then you react the moment somebody (me) offers you some shade (while not posting at all otherwise).

Just 2x perfect timing. Perfectly bad but still perfect.

[Murska]

Sounds like overanalyzing to me. He hasn't done anything to make that read worth flipping. I guess that makes you less likely w/w.

So where's your vote?

[GeneralHankerchief]

looks like somebody at the Super Bowl party I went to last night was sick and early indicators are that I caught whatever it is he's got, so if my post quality somehow gets even worse than it's been to this point it's because I'm loading myself up with drugs in an effort to head this off at the pass :knight:

[Murska]

As opposed to all the other reasons you generally load yourself up with drugs when gearing up to play werewolf?

[Jan]

Sounds like overanalyzing to me. He hasn't done anything to make that read worth flipping. I guess that makes you less likely w/w.

So where's your vote?

Nowhere. I got lazy with age and realized that any wolf that is not terrible is not afraid of rvs pressure.
Ask the other kids if you want to see votes. I am capable of using my words to make my voice heard for now.

[GeneralHankerchief]

As opposed to all the other reasons you generally load yourself up with drugs when gearing up to play werewolf?

yes, obviously

this time the drugs are different!

[Logic]

benneh, you may sit on this council, and further we grant you the rank of master.

lock v never rescinding glgl im gonna dvc warrior so hard when benneh is actually a wolf and blame everyone for not killing him even though i locked him v and never reconsidered :chucks:

Good thing I don't need your approval for the rank of master, the gubberment already gave it to me!

[Raskolnikov]

I soulread Visor villa out of his sole post (fr)

Think folks like Arctic, Murska, and Logic had a meh opening for different reasons I won't be bother to type (also some of you have stressed potential pings). Murska being overly defensive and serious at this point of the game.

Benneh and Hally also meh but I guess it's not a D1 issue (unless :curtain:). Hally feels a bit too much willing to blend in or pocket I dunno. will see I feel about this one l8r.

Zack is awesome :curtain:

[Hally]

I soulread Visor villa out of his sole post (fr)

Think folks like Arctic, Murska, and Logic had a meh opening for different reasons I won't be bother to type (also some of you have stressed potential pings). Murska being overly defensive and serious at this point of the game.

Benneh and Hally also meh but I guess it's not a D1 issue (unless :curtain:). Hally feels a bit too much willing to blend in or pocket I dunno. will see I feel about this one l8r.

Zack is awesome :curtain:
where have i tried to pocket anyone? not sure where you get that from

blendy i agree with though :tongue:

[Zack]

where have i tried to pocket anyone? not sure where you get that from

blendy i agree with though :tongue:

you got off on slightly the wrong foot and now you will never be in the towncore no matter what you do

have fun in f3 buddy

[Arctic]

you guys are really funny i'm giggling

re: zack - yeah im european

i wasn't trying to bait people with my opener i'm just cringe, but i agree that the sus on me felt kinda bad because i was being avoidably wolfy and even acknowledged that it was coming across like that so voting me feels level 0. i'm prob not gonna pursue it because there was really nothing to go off at that point so i get reaching to make an RVS vote

but i will say that i feel like the way zack handled my posts is how i'd expect a villager to do - he recognized they weren't good but he noted that he had 0% belief in sussing me for those posts and doesn't really care to push me but wolves will pretend they don't see it

i haven't really liked anything else rask has posted either since voting me - they've kept up a consistent presence but feel very "hello fellow kids-ey". as for murska, i actually got the sense they believed in their vote of me from their later justification but then i read 94 from jan and um i changed my mind because that makes a lot more sense lmao

also zack, i've seen your read on logic and uhh i guess i could see it? but i don't know if i'd say i agree - sorry this isn't helpful but you wanted people to talk with you about it lol

the only people i really sus is basically cuz of omgus, wow i'm good at mafia

[Syn]

can I be in f3 too

(please don't make me be in f3)

[Syn]

re: zack - yeah im european

this is outing tbh

[Hally]

you got off on slightly the wrong foot and now you will never be in the towncore no matter what you do

have fun in f3 buddy
https://c.tenor.com/LhvxU-iQhD8AAAAC/tenor.gif

[Zack]

Good thing I don't need your approval for the rank of master, the gubberment already gave it to me!

~:confused:

[nebjiamn]

I soulread Visor villa out of his sole post (fr)

Think folks like Arctic, Murska, and Logic had a meh opening for different reasons I won't be bother to type (also some of you have stressed potential pings). Murska being overly defensive and serious at this point of the game.

Benneh and Hally also meh but I guess it's not a D1 issue (unless :curtain:). Hally feels a bit too much willing to blend in or pocket I dunno. will see I feel about this one l8r.

Zack is awesome :curtain:
sorry, zack already villa read me. i am off the table for days 1 through 6. you can reconsider then though

[Zack]

sorry, zack already villa read me. i am off the table for days 1 through 6. you can reconsider then though

https://i.imgur.com/QcN7vyk.gif

[nebjiamn]

i would be a great dog name wtf
i'm just concerned about how tough it would be to teach a dog about a 3-way handshake

[nebjiamn]

https://i.imgur.com/QcN7vyk.gif

errr... uhhh.. GULPS

Vote: Logic

:confused: does this work???? :confused:

[Arctic]

also i think zack is town in case that wasn't clear already- the way he's talking about his reads and qualifying them with different levels of belief seems genuine and some other stuff i don't think wolves do like saying wisdom's behaviour needs to be noted without actually attributing a read to it. oh and also making reads about how nobody reacted to his logic case - gives me the sense he really believes in that read and kinda borders on confbias but idk not really

i think jan's observations on me are correct and are also how i'd expect an experienced villa to react to my posts at sod - i dunno if i'd say they're town yet but i'm nodding along to their thoughts on me/murska

hally too but she kinda stole these thoughts from jan so L

[nebjiamn]

i'm just concerned about how tough it would be to teach a dog about a 3-way handshake

i am so proud of this joke btw

[Raskolnikov]

I really hope I'll be dead by D7 bronana lol.

really tempted to make another "hello fellow kids -ey" post at this point though :D (nah, but Arctic I will explain l8r if I feel like it. just don't see the game through the omgus glance only)

[nebjiamn]

if syn's ever been in f3 and received the hammer and didn't syn/syn ack/ack then ill be very disappointed


(real content: dya supping and dipping is of note. pass for busy-ness irl ofc but just noting for future)

[Hally]

logic’s entrance was whatever to me but showing up, making one meme post and not commenting on both zack and visor voting him is prob the wolfiest thing itt so far (and he saw zack’s vote at least because it was after the post he quoted)

vote: logic

en garde :duel:

[Arctic]

I really hope I'll be dead by D7 bronana lol.

really tempted to make another "hello fellow kids -ey" post at this point though :D (nah, but Arctic I will explain l8r if I feel like it. just don't see the game through the omgus glance only)

i think i would be sussing you even without that
could you explain where hally was pockety? she just seems to be meming as much as everyone else so i'm not sure why you have given specifically her this label

[nebjiamn]

logic’s entrance was whatever to me but showing up, making one meme post and not commenting on both zack and visor voting him is prob the wolfiest thing itt so far (and he saw zack’s vote at least because it was after the post he quoted)

vote: logic

en garde :duel:

good job hally we distanced well here, i doubt they will link us with logic until f7 at the earliest

any PR reads yet?

[Raskolnikov]

(real content: Benneh shading dya and leaking is of note. pass for hilarious -ness itt ofc but just noting for future)

[Zack]

vote: Visor

underwhelming

lacking

doesnt have the fire

wolfy fatigue

smells bad

enjoys cricket

:hmg:

[nebjiamn]

(real content: Benneh shading dya and leaking is of note. pass for hilarious -ness itt ofc but just noting for future)

i don't think thats noteworthy!

DELETE THE NOTES NOW

[Raskolnikov]

i think i would be sussing you even without that
could you explain where hally was pockety? she just seems to be meming as much as everyone else so i'm not sure why you have given specifically her this label

posts 35, 45, 56, 58, 61, 70 and finally 75. Basically all the opening. I can't recall Hally being so blendy (prolly more accurate than pockety tbh) but maybe that's me. Felt like mentionning it.

[Zack]

posts 35, 45, 56, 58, 61, 70 and finally 75. Basically all the opening. I can't recall Hally being so blendy (prolly more accurate than pockety tbh) but maybe that's me. Felt like mentionning it.

hally seems exactly like hally to me lol

#117 is maybe a bit wolfy if logic is town :curtain:

[EnderWiggin]

vote: Visor

underwhelming

lacking

doesnt have the fire

wolfy fatigue

smells bad

enjoys cricket

:hmg:

But that describes me? ~:confused:

[EnderWiggin]

hally seems exactly like hally to me lol

#117 is maybe a bit wolfy if logic is town :curtain:

Logic is being sussed for being Logic so wouldn't surprise me rn.

[Zack]

maybe it's even wolfier if logic isn't town



:curtain:

[Arctic]

posts 35, 45, 56, 58, 61, 70 and finally 75. Basically all the opening. I can't recall Hally being so blendy (prolly more accurate than pockety tbh) but maybe that's me. Felt like mentionning it.

to me only really 56 seems pockety? i agree blendy is a better description. but it's kinda weird you said pockety when only 56 could be construed as pockety/trying to appeal

the rest of the posts here are surely the opposite? like the premise of 35 was calling a bunch of people mafia with the AI post lmao, and most of the other examples seem to be stepping on toes (admittedly in a memey way) but certainly not trying to appeal to anyone

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Jan

For ??? reasons.

I'll maybe think about elaborating a bit later but I have a thought.

[Zack]

Logic is being sussed for being Logic so wouldn't surprise me rn.

i'm sorry sir but this post is terrible, regardless of logic's actual alignment. i actually grimaced irl reading it.

Vote: EnderWiggin

(real)

[EnderWiggin]

Hottest take rn is that Rask is town.

Which is not the hottest take but I believe it tbh

[EnderWiggin]

i'm sorry sir but this post is terrible, regardless of logic's actual alignment. i actually grimaced irl reading it.

Vote: EnderWiggin

(real)

This is a terrible vote. I grimmaced irl reading it.

(Real)

[Zack]

to me only really 56 seems pockety?

i'm pretty sure i've made either that exact post (with that gif) or something VERY similar in a past game or two with hally fwiw, it was more of a joke than "pockety"

[Zack]

This is a terrible vote. I grimmaced irl reading it.

(Real)

laddavi.gif

[Raskolnikov]

maybe it's even wolfier if logic isn't town



:curtain:

Yeah Hally was about to give up because of my decisive push then remembered she could throw Logic under the bus :2thumbsup:

[EnderWiggin]

Benneh is my other sus mostly because they seem to keep posting to remind people that they're there but they choose to only react to silly things in a way that feels avoidant.

Which is a dumb read yeah but I like it.

I'll go check his ISO after I post this to see if this feeling is actually justified.

[nebjiamn]

i'm sorry sir but this post is terrible, regardless of logic's actual alignment. i actually grimaced irl reading it.

Vote: EnderWiggin

(real)
i unironically had this same reaction and am legitimately upset you beat me to posting this

[Hally]

good job hally we distanced well here, i doubt they will link us with logic until f7 at the earliest

any PR reads yet?
you’re not making it to f7 unless you stop posting ai art of kirby endorsing joe biden at the superbowl in wolf chat and start getting your booty in gear


this one is pretty good though

https://i.imgur.com/WQtABLv_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand

[Syn]

maybe it's even wolfier if logic isn't town



:curtain:

asari high command etc

[nebjiamn]

Benneh is my other sus mostly because they seem to keep posting to remind people that they're there but they choose to only react to silly things in a way that feels avoidant.

Which is a dumb read yeah but I like it.

I'll go check his ISO after I post this to see if this feeling is actually justified.

lol

[EnderWiggin]

Also legitimately I townread Zack because of Asari High Command.

I refuse to elaborate further.

(Ty based Syn for reminding me.)

[Arctic]

i'm pretty sure i've made either that exact post (with that gif) or something VERY similar in a past game or two with hally fwiw, it was more of a joke than "pockety"

well yeah i mean the point i'm making is that pretty much none of the posts actually seem pockety so the read doesn't seem very real to me

[Hally]

posts 35, 45, 56, 58, 61, 70 and finally 75. Basically all the opening. I can't recall Hally being so blendy (prolly more accurate than pockety tbh) but maybe that's me. Felt like mentionning it.
you better get used to it because i’m retired and had zero desire to actually play when i signed up for this game, i’m just here because the player list was too good to pass up :curtain:

[Zack]

i unironically had this same reaction and am legitimately upset you beat me to posting this

:turtle:

[nebjiamn]

you better get used to it because i’m retired and had zero desire to actually play when i signed up for this game, i’m just here because the player list was too good to pass up :curtain:

keyword was

its a real shame you had to go and ruin that

[EnderWiggin]

The feeling was mostly justified tbh.

But apparently Zack has declared him clear so off the table for days 1 to 6. :curtain:

[Raskolnikov]

you better get used to it because i’m retired and had zero desire to actually play when i signed up for this game, i’m just here because the player list was too good to pass up :curtain:

please keep up the good work :bow:

[Arctic]

Yeah Hally was about to give up because of my decisive push then remembered she could throw Logic under the bus :2thumbsup:

i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening

vote: Raskolnikov

i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness

[Raskolnikov]

Syn, why r u wolfing without me?

[nebjiamn]

i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening

vote: Raskolnikov

i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness
rask is probably v

he's just french, that should explain the weirdness

[EnderWiggin]

Syn, why r u wolfing without me?

We decided it'd be cooler without you.

[nebjiamn]

rask is probably v

he's just french, that should explain the weirdness

(but real, you are reading too much seriousness into rasks posts in my estimation. game is still very much in the shitpost phase and for rask that is all they really know)

[EnderWiggin]

Also Arctic is making me side eye but I also dunno what to do with half of the dithering.

I want to say town!Arctic is less hyperfixated but also I dunno if I even believe that claim so I'll avoid it.

(Oh look. Wild shading.)

[EnderWiggin]

(but real, you are reading too much seriousness into rasks posts in my estimation. game is still very much in the shitpost phase and for rask that is all they really know)

WAit.

There's a non-shitpost phase?

[Murska]

i unironically had this same reaction and am legitimately upset you beat me to posting this

I like this, felt genuine

also approve of the votes and the bit of elbowing to make people uncomfortable by rask and zack

[Raskolnikov]

i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening

vote: Raskolnikov

i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness

hum technically to bus him would need me to 1) be a wolf, 2) vote him. Which I am not :p

What's up? Logic's opening has been shitty, I said it like others, but I don't feel like making this D1 a "pile on Logic" day, because it's worthless contentwise. Both for him to contribute if he is actually villa, and to get other reads.

[Arctic]

i mean i dunno, i feel like i could say the same about logic (which is ironically what you all jumped on ender for even though i kinda agree with his assessment)

but even if i was misinterpreting that last post i don't think being french explains the sus on hally or how it feels like they're fos'ing like the entire game

[EnderWiggin]

hum technically to bus him would need me to 1) be a wolf, 2) vote him. Which I am not :p

What's up? Logic's opening has been shitty, I said it like others, but I don't feel like making this D1 a "pile on Logic" day, because it's worthless contentwise. Both for him to contribute if he is actually villa, and to get other reads.

Also, we gotta break the "Logic gets dogpiled d1" trend on the org recently.

Idrc if he's wolf at this stage.

[Hally]

i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening

vote: Raskolnikov

i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness
(fwiw i’m pretty sure he was talking about his push on me, not logic)


i don’t really have an issue with rask pushing benneh and me. not like we’re easy targets for a wolf to push D1 and it’s probably true that our posts suck compared to what he remembers. i know mine do lol

[EnderWiggin]

I can confirm Hally's posts do suck but we're in wolfchat together so I'm contractually obliged to not point it out.

[Raskolnikov]

Arctic doesn't feel partnered or driven if that means anything to anyone. I am happy with what I got smh lol.

[nebjiamn]

i mean i dunno, i feel like i could say the same about logic (which is ironically what you all jumped on ender for even though i kinda agree with his assessment)

but even if i was misinterpreting that last post i don't think being french explains the sus on hally or how it feels like they're fos'ing like the entire game

he was replying to a spoilered :curtain: with his own hyperbole dude

i don't think rasks genuine thought is that hally was ready to give up until she remembered bussing was an option lol

[nebjiamn]

Also, we gotta break the "Logic gets dogpiled d1" trend on the org recently.

Idrc if he's wolf at this stage.

akasuki:logic

visorslash:hally/arctic

[Raskolnikov]

he was replying to a spoilered :curtain: with his own hyperbole dude

i don't think rasks genuine thought is that hally was ready to give up until she remembered bussing was an option lol

thank you for translating me.

[EnderWiggin]

he was replying to a spoilered :curtain: with his own hyperbole dude

i don't think rasks genuine thought is that hally was ready to give up until she remembered bussing was an option lol

Benneh speaks french.

Noted.

[nebjiamn]

this will probably sound condescending but i get 'good boi' pupper vibes (ok equating it to dogs makes it even more condescending but its also funny) from arctic like he really wants to do ell in this list and make good posts/reads/etc

and even tho he'd have those motivations as wolf i tr it anyway. good energy etc

[Arctic]

my vote for someone being themselves > your vote for someone being themselves

[EnderWiggin]

Stupid read incoming but...

Arctic is actually probably town.

That weird hyperfocus I've decided is towny being stuck on a detail. Feels weird for a wolf to dig themselves this deep on a weird note.

[/stupid read]

This is totally not because they said they agreed with my point.
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

[EnderWiggin]

Actually nevermind Benneh is the goodest boi and I'm an idiot.

[Raskolnikov]

this will probably sound condescending but i get 'good boi' pupper vibes (ok equating it to dogs makes it even more condescending but its also funny) from arctic like he really wants to do ell in this list and make good posts/reads/etc

and even tho he'd have those motivations as wolf i tr it anyway. good energy etc

u jerk. I am reporting your post to mods. let say GH.

[Raskolnikov]

Come on. I out a villa trend on Arctic and Bennen then Ender shamelessly steals it from me.

I was the first to TMI that read.

[EnderWiggin]

Come on. I out a villa trend on Arctic and Bennen then Ender shamelessly steals it from me.

I was the first to TMI that read.

2 slo

[Arctic]

this will probably sound condescending but i get 'good boi' pupper vibes (ok equating it to dogs makes it even more condescending but its also funny) from arctic like he really wants to do ell in this list and make good posts/reads/etc

and even tho he'd have those motivations as wolf i tr it anyway. good energy etc

wow!
i dunno why u think it's AI but it's true i am a good boy

[nebjiamn]

i was just looking to score enough villa points after ender so precisely called me out, pocketing you was just a beneficial side effect

and with that i will go back to shitposting

how about that local sports team?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Also legitimately I townread Zack because of Asari High Command.

I refuse to elaborate further.

(Ty based Syn for reminding me.)

this was me!!! :bigcry:

[EnderWiggin]

this was me!!! :bigcry:

This read was not actually Asari High Command. They were too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I don't think justifiably demanding proper credit for utterly unearned townreads is too much to ask, that's all :sad3:

[EnderWiggin]

I don't think justifiably demanding proper credit for utterly unearned townreads is too much to ask, that's all :sad3:

The entire post was a bait for you and now I'm cackling to myself at how well that worked.

Don't mind me.

[EnderWiggin]

Actually correction:
It was a bait for anyone trying to correct me and the fact that you were the one to do so is what makes it even funnier.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Actually correction:
It was a bait for anyone trying to correct me and the fact that you were the one to do so is what makes it even funnier.

points to you, you made your posts stick out amidst the sea of disgusting and degenerate reads being given at that time

[Hally]

i have like the exact opposite read from you guys on arctic’s string of posts just now lol

i don’t get why he’s harping on rask’s push so much. afaict the actual crux of rask’s read is more so that i’m underwhelming and mostly just joking around with people / not being the power villager of ye olden days. seems like a completely fine observation to me? but arctic seems to be ignoring the actual gist of what rask is saying and just focusing on him initially saying i was pockety (which i agree is not the right word to describe my play but i think get what he meant now)

also he said he’s wolf reading rask for “susing the entire game” but 1) rask is not really doing that imo and 2) even if he was, that would be villagery not wolfy especially when the main targets are stronger players, which i think arctic should know

idk feels like he’s trying hard to paint rask as wolfy when there’s nothing really there imo


tangential kinda but i kinda get w/w vibes from how arctic is talking about logic. like how he soft defends logic by saying he could say logic is just posting like himself too (does arctic even know logic?) then is at the same time going at rask saying that if anyone is busing logic it’s rask. like wat


in other news, uhh as i was walking home just now i got assaulted by this random guy (i’m fine, just a bit shaken up) so that’s fun. but on the bright side i get to work from home tomorrow because we’re getting a snowstorm

[Hally]

that post ended up being longer / sounding more confident than i actually feel about it

(unless arctic is actually a wolf, then i was always 100% sure :curtain:)

[dyachei]

sup again

I had to pick up amy earlier than expected with the last post, sorry I couldn't follow up

I guess it's fair that ben is shading me for it

[Zack]

oh no, glad you're okay ~:grouphug:

[Hally]

oh no, glad you're okay ~:grouphug:
i’m fine yeah, not sure what it was about tbh i was just walking and he came up behind me and grabbed me really hard and started shouting that he saw what i did (???) and that if i did it again he would break my legs and started hitting me on the arm

never had something like that happen before but idk i guess he was just a lunatic, he didn’t rob me though!

[dyachei]

i’m fine yeah, not sure what it was about tbh i was just walking and he came up behind me and grabbed me really hard and started shouting that he saw what i did (???) and that if i did it again he would break my legs and started hitting me on the arm

never had something like that happen before but idk i guess he was just a lunatic, he didn’t rob me though!

wtf this is really creepy. did you report it to someone?

[Jan]

i was just looking to score enough villa points after ender so precisely called me out, pocketing you was just a beneficial side effect

and with that i will go back to shitposting

how about that local sports team?

I was about to talk about that game that happened that I really don't cared about but then I learned that some irrelevant nobody was throwing for one side and was amused and hoping for good storytelling and a happy end.
Just to realize that Americans love rocky too much and have to retell the story everywhere.

Just the classic American tale where they wine and dine but suck at the finishing line.

Would not call that a local team but I just needed to make sure my feelings are known.
Plus Covid killed my tastebuds today which makes the dining part really sad.

[Hally]

wtf this is really creepy. did you report it to someone?
meh not worth it tbh, he didn’t really hurt me and i have no idea who he was and probably couldn’t describe him

people were around though and nobody did anything lol


anyway im okay, lettuce werewolf

[Jan]

i’m fine yeah, not sure what it was about tbh i was just walking and he came up behind me and grabbed me really hard and started shouting that he saw what i did (???) and that if i did it again he would break my legs and started hitting me on the arm

never had something like that happen before but idk i guess he was just a lunatic, he didn’t rob me though!

weird shit. the only small upside is that is sounds more like a lunatic than a stalker.

[Jan]

lettuce werewolf

Any chance we can shitpost instead?

Asking for a friend.

[dyachei]

Any chance we can shitpost instead?

Asking for a friend.

we can always shitpost instead

[Hally]

Vote: Jan

For ??? reasons.

I'll maybe think about elaborating a bit later but I have a thought.
so what’s the thought?

[Jan]

we can always shitpost instead
nebjiamn you can come back. I calmed the need for content!


On a different note:
Cat!
hi Dya! <3

[dyachei]

nebjiamn you can come back. I calmed the need for content!


On a different note:
Cat!
hi Dya! <3

hi jan <3!

[Gemma]

Vote: GH

(real)

[Gemma]

Any chance we can shitpost instead?

Asking for a friend.

i'm awlasy here for the shitposting!

epseically since i missed the best part of the game already

[Gemma]

also real my favorite nic cage thing is pig

that movie is genuinely so beautiful

but my favorite nic cage movie for nic cage is probably faceoff

i grew up on him in that era so its that and uh the prison plane movie thing and gone in 60 seconds but face off was the craziest and most memorable of those imo

[Jan]

i'm awlasy here for the shitposting!

epseically since i missed the best part of the game already

good morning.

It is never too late to shitpost. I just have to star playing the numbersgame soon. (17 I think).

[Logic]

~:confused:

:curtain:I got promoted at work to Master Sergeant.

[Logic]

also real my favorite nic cage thing is pig

that movie is genuinely so beautiful

but my favorite nic cage movie for nic cage is probably faceoff

i grew up on him in that era so its that and uh the prison plane movie thing and gone in 60 seconds but face off was the craziest and most memorable of those imo

Can we be best friends?

[Logic]

Any chance we can shitpost instead?

Asking for a friend.

I haven't stopped. Why did you?

[Jan]

I haven't stopped. Why did you?

hally wanted to play werewolf and I was afraid it would drive the people away.
Glady neither of us actually decided to play ww afterwards.

[EnderWiggin]

so what’s the thought?

I'll let you know when I work it out.

[EnderWiggin]

The lack of people appreciating my master bait on GH is sad tbh.

[Gemma]

good morning.

It is never too late to shitpost. I just have to star playing the numbersgame soon. (17 I think).

whats the numbers game oh your postcount

i didnt have any trouble last game even when i was here all the time you'll probably be fine

phases are short

[Logic]

Also, we gotta break the "Logic gets dogpiled d1" trend on the org recently.

Idrc if he's wolf at this stage.

I personally am finding it quite hilarious.

[Gemma]

The lack of people appreciating my master bait on GH is sad tbh.

i mean i was appreciating it

silently but still

i also village read you for it!

[Gemma]

hally wanted to play werewolf and I was afraid it would drive the people away.
Glady neither of us actually decided to play ww afterwards.

por que no los dos

whats your gh read tea leaves welcome

[Hally]

i have like the exact opposite read from you guys on arctic’s string of posts just now lol

i don’t get why he’s harping on rask’s push so much. afaict the actual crux of rask’s read is more so that i’m underwhelming and mostly just joking around with people / not being the power villager of ye olden days. seems like a completely fine observation to me? but arctic seems to be ignoring the actual gist of what rask is saying and just focusing on him initially saying i was pockety (which i agree is not the right word to describe my play but i think get what he meant now)

also he said he’s wolf reading rask for “susing the entire game” but 1) rask is not really doing that imo and 2) even if he was, that would be villagery not wolfy especially when the main targets are stronger players, which i think arctic should know

idk feels like he’s trying hard to paint rask as wolfy when there’s nothing really there imo


tangential kinda but i kinda get w/w vibes from how arctic is talking about logic. like how he soft defends logic by saying he could say logic is just posting like himself too (does arctic even know logic?) then is at the same time going at rask saying that if anyone is busing logic it’s rask. like wat
oh another thing, he talked a bunch about how rask was reading me but i don’t think he actually gave any thoughts on my posts besides that rask was wrong to call them pockety? tbh i kinda expected arctic would also think i was #lacking because he only knows me from turbos where he thinks i’m one of the strongest villagers and i wasn’t really posting like a strong villager which i feel like should have concerned him?

idk i might be wildin about this cuz people don’t seem to agree, would appreciate people talking about it esp the people that town read him

[GeneralHankerchief]

looks like somebody at the Super Bowl party I went to last night was sick and early indicators are that I caught whatever it is he's got, so if my post quality somehow gets even worse than it's been to this point it's because I'm loading myself up with drugs in an effort to head this off at the pass :knight:

update: early bedtime for me to continue to try head this off at the pass

I was actually gonna transition into gameplay mode this evening (no I wasn't, but I told myself I'd at least think about it) before this but that's gonna wait

[Gemma]

Can we be best friends?

https://media.tenor.com/JvRJUtY6tmkAAAAM/yep-bff.gif

[Zack]

oh another thing, he talked a bunch about how rask was reading me but i don’t think he actually gave any thoughts on my posts besides that rask was wrong to call them pockety? tbh i kinda expected arctic would also think i was #lacking because he only knows me from turbos where he thinks i’m one of the strongest villagers and i wasn’t really posting like a strong villager which i feel like should have concerned him?

idk i might be wildin about this cuz people don’t seem to agree, would appreciate people talking about it esp the people that town read him

why would anyone expect you to be powervillaging in a chill light game that is super slow and has like 3 people making a nonzero amount of serious posts about the game

[dyachei]

don't tell GH but I am stoked he's playing again

also I think he's v so far but we're still in shitposting

[Zack]

don't tell GH but I am stoked he's playing again

also I think he's v so far but we're still in shitposting

based on what?

[Jan]

por que no los dos

whats your gh read tea leaves welcome

He made a point out of not playing the game.
I think any confident read on him right now is a stretch.

For a normal player I would say that at least 1 of his 10+ posts would have mild content as wolf just so he has something to point at while mocking others.
But that is not a real read and more me hoping gh is a villa for his own sake.

[Gemma]

update: early bedtime for me to continue to try head this off at the pass

I was actually gonna transition into gameplay mode this evening (no I wasn't, but I told myself I'd at least think about it) before this but that's gonna wait

hope you feel better gh / successfully head it off tahts what she said

[dyachei]

based on what?

gut feeling is part of it

also he's not tryharding and like...he tends to when he wolfs because he doesn't want to let his team down

[Hally]

why would anyone expect you to be powervillaging in a chill light game that is super slow and has like 3 people making a nonzero amount of serious posts about the game
i mean i don’t think he would expect me to power village necessarily but i wasn’t really doing anything and there’s a large gulf between doing nothing and power villaging lol

[Gemma]

He made a point out of not playing the game.
I think any confident read on him right now is a stretch.

For a normal player I would say that at least 1 of his 10+ posts would have mild content as wolf just so he has something to point at while mocking others.
But that is not a real read and more me hoping gh is a villa for his own sake.

wdym for a normal player

like gh palying normally or

also why for hiso wn sake does he not loike woofing

[Zack]

gut feeling is part of it

also he's not tryharding and like...he tends to when he wolfs because he doesn't want to let his team down

seems like a stretch and an odd thing to have as your first read when he has pretty explicitly done nothing

i mean gh is plenty tryhard as a villager too, usually when we're v/v i'll have poked fun at him for getting serious with tryhard reads so early

[Hally]

i do kinda agree that i feel like gh would at least have gestured towards giving a shit by now if he was a wolf lol

probably not a read that should matter after D1 but

[dyachei]

seems like a stretch and an odd thing to have as your first read when he has pretty explicitly done nothing

i mean gh is plenty tryhard as a villager too, usually when we're v/v i'll have poked fun at him for getting serious with tryhard reads so early

that's why i gave a caveat

GH tries harder as a wolf though and he likely would have tried to do something by now if he were a wolf. The very fact he's doing nothing is kind of a good look

[Jan]

wdym for a normal player

like gh palying normally or

also why for hiso wn sake does he not loike woofing

He barely plays these days as far as I know and coming back for a game as villager is overall less pressure.

Not basing it on "normal gh" just normal/average player. I don't think I know normal gh outside of the odd mash well enough to judge him.

You legit asked me to read tea leaves so all you get is tea leaves and some prayers.

[Jan]

i do kinda agree that i feel like gh would at least have gestured towards giving a shit by now if he was a wolf lol

probably not a read that should matter after D1 but

Let's be fair. Gh would need to be caught commiting a war crime to not make it to n1.

He is a general which really makes it more likely than anybody else here, but still...

[dyachei]

also kind of think zack coming at me for the is v!zack. He's more aggro with me when he's a villager

keep hating on my reads, zack

[Gemma]

He barely plays these days as far as I know and coming back for a game as villager is overall less pressure.

Not basing it on "normal gh" just normal/average player. I don't think I know normal gh outside of the odd mash well enough to judge him.

You legit asked me to read tea leaves so all you get is tea leaves and some prayers.

https://media.tenor.com/FhBDy-T1L6AAAAAM/kermit-the-frog-sip.gif

[nebjiamn]

Don’t really like dyas read on GH for reasons Zack kinda outlined and again I’m kinda frustrated he made the point before me but also just kinda accepting he’s a villager for pre-melding on my thoughts before I catch up with the thread

I just kinda think at best the read is wanting but I also feel like dya would temper the wanting a bit this early. Also feels like a struggly way to get into the thread groove

i I don’t wanna harp on it cause I’ll feel bad if wrong but ya

[nebjiamn]

Gemma seems ok

[dyachei]

Don’t really like dyas read on GH for reasons Zack kinda outlined and again I’m kinda frustrated he made the point before me but also just kinda accepting he’s a villager for pre-melding on my thoughts before I catch up with the thread

I just kinda think at best the read is wanting but I also feel like dya would temper the wanting a bit this early. Also feels like a struggly way to get into the thread groove

i I don’t wanna harp on it cause I’ll feel bad if wrong but ya

time to feel bad then

It's a real read I have and yeah there's some want there because the best time I've ever had in a game was when Jan and GH were both village in 2017's anni

But it's also based on what I know about GH and just because it's wanting doesn't make it less valid

[Arctic]

i have like the exact opposite read from you guys on arctic’s string of posts just now lol

i don’t get why he’s harping on rask’s push so much. afaict the actual crux of rask’s read is more so that i’m underwhelming and mostly just joking around with people / not being the power villager of ye olden days. seems like a completely fine observation to me? but arctic seems to be ignoring the actual gist of what rask is saying and just focusing on him initially saying i was pockety (which i agree is not the right word to describe my play but i think get what he meant now)

also he said he’s wolf reading rask for “susing the entire game” but 1) rask is not really doing that imo and 2) even if he was, that would be villagery not wolfy especially when the main targets are stronger players, which i think arctic should know

idk feels like he’s trying hard to paint rask as wolfy when there’s nothing really there imo


tangential kinda but i kinda get w/w vibes from how arctic is talking about logic. like how he soft defends logic by saying he could say logic is just posting like himself too (does arctic even know logic?) then is at the same time going at rask saying that if anyone is busing logic it’s rask. like wat


in other news, uhh as i was walking home just now i got assaulted by this random guy (i’m fine, just a bit shaken up) so that’s fun. but on the bright side i get to work from home tomorrow because we’re getting a snowstorm

nice argument
one small problem
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

also wtf i hope ur good thats crazy

[dyachei]

ben seems to want to read me as a wolf this game

[Jan]

Gemma seems ok

Unsure. I read agenda but I don't have enough to add alignment.

[Zack]

for reasons Zack kinda outlined and again I’m kinda frustrated he made the point before me but also just kinda accepting he’s a villager for pre-melding on my thoughts before I catch up with the thread

https://i.imgur.com/Hv0PiKZ.png

[Gemma]

Logic is being sussed for being Logic so wouldn't surprise me rn.

eh yeah not the most amazing popst ig

[Gemma]

https://i.imgur.com/Hv0PiKZ.png

??? how do you have so many of these tis amazing

[Zack]

i mean i dunno, i feel like i could say the same about logic (which is ironically what you all jumped on ender for even though i kinda agree with his assessment)

but even if i was misinterpreting that last post i don't think being french explains the sus on hally or how it feels like they're fos'ing like the entire game

just to be clear, ender's post was bad because it was dismissive and felt disingenuous in an agenda'd / trying to control the narrative kind of way / suggesting my read was fallacious and bad but without pushing or suspecting me

it's just the kind of post where i read it and immediately think wow, a wolf probably made this post

i dont care if someone townreads logic or doesnt wanna kill him, i mean whatever it's like a quarter into day people dont need to agree with me

[Arctic]

umm but seriously speaking

even if the main reason for rask's push is being underwhelming, that's not much better either? because everyone is underwhelming lol. half the list isn't even playing yet. it's a light game and everyone's kinda messing around, so i don't think it makes sense to single you out for this. i also don't know if i'd consider this wolfy for you even if you weren't the only person doing this because i'm used to you kinda doing nothing in turbos on day 1 as town and trying harder as mafia

it did feel like rask was sussing a lot of people - he said he felt meh on you and benneh and sussed me, logic, and murska - that's 5 people, and maybe they aren't fleshed out wolfreads but the implication is still kinda there. and idk i'm just kinda predisposed to wolfread this personally cuz i got off a wolfgame where i kinda did the same game, and "how easy this person is to push" wasn't something i really thought about at this early of a stage, wolves don't need to push everyone they wolfread, they just need to sow the seeds and see what sticks

i have played with logic before yes, once, and i incorrectly suspected him in that game mostly because of the way he spoke in binary/absolute terms and seeming generally awkward in the way he came across, so i haven't found the pushes on him in this game convincing even though i don't townread him either. i said that about rask cuz i thought they were acting in a way that's w/w with logic even though i don't wolfread logic - that is, trying to milk cred for pushing him when he's barely done that (but according to everyone this is just a joke so w/e), and also his last post about me is implying a townread because of a preflip of logic wolf if i understand correctly. so yeah

oh and answering 209 at the same time - wait actually i kinda already answered this, i don't really think you lacking is wolfy because of my experience with you in turbos

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Arctic

Okay I actually take back my earlier read

[EnderWiggin]

just to be clear, ender's post was bad because it was dismissive and felt disingenuous in an agenda'd / trying to control the narrative kind of way / suggesting my read was fallacious and bad but without pushing or suspecting me

it's just the kind of post where i read it and immediately think wow, a wolf probably made this post

i dont care if someone townreads logic or doesnt wanna kill him, i mean whatever it's like a quarter into day people dont need to agree with me

Would be a pity if the reason I didn't push or suspect you was because I very overtly townread you.

[Arctic]

I guess I agree with the take that GH would probably feel more pressured to do something here as mafia but dya's first read being this over anything else is pretty bad imo

I don't think I like anything gemma has posted either

[nebjiamn]

ben seems to want to read me as a wolf this game
I don’t wanna read you any way, it’s just how I’m reading things so far

[nebjiamn]

vote: Enderwiggin


dislike the Arctic turnaround and timing

[Hally]

umm but seriously speaking

even if the main reason for rask's push is being underwhelming, that's not much better either? because everyone is underwhelming lol. half the list isn't even playing yet. it's a light game and everyone's kinda messing around, so i don't think it makes sense to single you out for this. i also don't know if i'd consider this wolfy for you even if you weren't the only person doing this because i'm used to you kinda doing nothing in turbos on day 1 as town and trying harder as mafia

it did feel like rask was sussing a lot of people - he said he felt meh on you and benneh and sussed me, logic, and murska - that's 5 people, and maybe they aren't fleshed out wolfreads but the implication is still kinda there. and idk i'm just kinda predisposed to wolfread this personally cuz i got off a wolfgame where i kinda did the same game, and "how easy this person is to push" wasn't something i really thought about at this early of a stage, wolves don't need to push everyone they wolfread, they just need to sow the seeds and see what sticks

i have played with logic before yes, once, and i incorrectly suspected him in that game mostly because of the way he spoke in binary/absolute terms and seeming generally awkward in the way he came across, so i haven't found the pushes on him in this game convincing even though i don't townread him either. i said that about rask cuz i thought they were acting in a way that's w/w with logic even though i don't wolfread logic - that is, trying to milk cred for pushing him when he's barely done that (but according to everyone this is just a joke so w/e), and also his last post about me is implying a townread because of a preflip of logic wolf if i understand correctly. so yeah

oh and answering 209 at the same time - wait actually i kinda already answered this, i don't really think you lacking is wolfy because of my experience with you in turbos
mm okay, i think your expectations of what rask would do as wolf might be off because you’re very comfortable posting a ton and pushing villagers and power wolfing and stuff but i don’t think most wolves are actually like that, and though afaik rask is not a bad wolf i don’t thiiiink he’s that kind of wolf


also ftr i absolutely would not just do nothing D1 in a normal game lol, the reason i don’t really do anything D1 in turbos a lot of the time is cuz lolturbos they’re just a crapshoot mostly. it’s harder to process stuff and make reads i feel good about so quickly when everyone is posting so fast and i don’t have time to read back and think about stuff

i thought that was kinda self evident but ig not lol

[Zack]

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

:end:

[nebjiamn]

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

:end:

Is this a bad time to mention idk what Asari high command is

[Zack]

Is this a bad time to mention idk what Asari high command is

This is Asari high command.

hello!

[Arctic]

mm okay, i think your expectations of what rask would do as wolf might be off because you’re very comfortable posting a ton and pushing villagers and power wolfing and stuff but i don’t think most wolves are actually like that, and though afaik rask is not a bad wolf i don’t thiiiink he’s that kind of wolf


also ftr i absolutely would not just do nothing D1 in a normal game lol, the reason i don’t really do anything D1 in turbos a lot of the time is cuz lolturbos they’re just a crapshoot mostly. it’s harder to process stuff and make reads i feel good about so quickly when everyone is posting so fast and i don’t have time to read back and think about stuff

i thought that was kinda self evident but ig not lol

I get that in turbos it's harder to make reads but imo if you have the mindset that you aren't going to force yourself to make reads when there's not much to go off then I think it could easily apply here when most people were shitposting and there wasn't much to go off either, I dunno why it's weird for me to expect you to be tryharding given my experience with you and the state of the game lol. I don't really go after people doing nothing, I go after people being wolfy, this is usually ends up being the reason I either goat or fall flat on my face

and with that said

vote: dyachei

same reason everyone has given

[EnderWiggin]

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

:end:

You and him do make "The Towncore of people who sus me."

[EnderWiggin]

vote: Enderwiggin


dislike the Arctic turnaround and timing

And I'd do it again.

[Syn]

The lack of people appreciating my master bait on GH is sad tbh.

i love it when you master bait personally