Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[TinCow]

It is quite interesting you failed to protect johnhughthom. Did you have something else to do during the night?

Yes, I killed your buddy Leet.

[Joooray]

5. Iskander3.1 was attacked by what appears to be a solitary vigilante, but survived due to luck. (A note about these "lucky" survivors - if Capo II is to be any guide, their luck only holds for the first attack against them. Subsequent attacks are likely to result in their death, although they still retain a small chance (1/36) of surviving due to luck.)


To me this one is not that obviously a luck save. I don't know much about the mechanics of Capo, but couldn't the person that gave Iksander that bible in the first place be someone saving him?

Anyway, Kage seems like a good choice for now. So,
Vote : Kage.

[Sigurd]

The reason i brought up Prole is the same i have been going after pizza. Both are not pro town, but pro themselves forces. They are ready to kill every last townie in order to find commies. So by following them blindly you only will get yourselves murdered or lynched until the commies are no more. Watch carefully when my autopsy records will arrive if its not too late already then.
I am interested how you came to the knowledge of this:


Well as i am about to die.I might just as well reveal that Prole is a CIA detective and is cooperating with both mafia and town, giving mafia members to town and FBI agents in exchange for commies to the Mafia.

That is a bit much information to have from an alleged unaffiliated wise guy.

[Kagemusha]

Yes, I killed your buddy Leet.

Well i guess now you should be guilty from here on if investigated? Lets hope it does not turn criminal at some point.:smash:

[Beskar]

CA was a evil communist planning the overthrowing of the American Fatlington. Pretty scummy to me.

Vote: Kagemusha

[Kagemusha]

I am interested how you came to the knowledge of this:

That is a bit much information to have from an alleged unaffiliated wise guy.

Well you have alleged wiseguy running the town claiming investigation results each day and lying about the people he have either got lynched or killed during nights. So we all have our sources. People talk, thats the primary source of information.

[Beskar]

Well, he wouldn't be running the town if the Mafia didn't vote him in and any townies which voted for him, having a screw loose.

[Sigurd]

Well you have alleged wiseguy running the town claiming investigation results each day and lying about the people he have either got lynched or killed during nights. So we all have our sources. People talk, thats the primary source of information.
So... you are saying you are something more than a wiseguy?

[Kagemusha]

Well, he wouldn't be running the town if the Mafia didn't vote him in and any townies which voted for him, having a screw loose.

Well i really meant the one running the town behind the curtains.:yes:

But as i am sure that i will be lycnhed i might as well reveal the whole deal. I am a wiseguy without kills and my autopsy will prove that. I was contacted by discovery1 as he wanted me to become part of his family. I agreed and was let in. Not at any point did i join an attack of that family, which consisted of him, Atheotes and Leet Eriksson. A luca, Made and a Don. The family was the "rose" family which has now suddenly stopped killing after disco and Leet are dead.
I claimed to them that i was being part of protection groups with Tincow wich in matter of fact is what was doing each night. I explained that i would probably find information that would be useful, While Disco and Leet killed together during nights.
What struck me as weird was that disco during a chat session told me that he had revealed himself and Atheotes to Proletariat in the chat while he was perfectly aware of that she was a detective. It seems from Disco, Prole also got my name and Leet Erikksons. Which then has been revealed by Askthepizzaguy, so actually those names are not even results of investigations.

But thats not the end of the story. If you look at "rose" familys hit targets you can see that they killed Myrddraal who was a detective. If you have read the above. I think that making a conclusion about the source of information leading to that kill is quite obvious.

So i would take a pinch os salt before trusting Prole and askthepizzaguy too heavily as they might not quite bee what they are claiming to be as they are playing their own game thats objects are not clearly either pro town or pro mafia, but rather their own. Rallying town behind such people could be bit bad concerning the end result of this game.

[Proletariat]

So i would take a pinch os salt before trusting Prole and askthepizzaguy too heavily as they might not quite bee what they are claiming to be as they are playing their own game thats objects are not clearly either pro town or pro mafia, but rather their own.

Clearly not protown?

[Kagemusha]

Clearly not protown?
It seems someone started paying attention.:smash:

[Proletariat]

You aren't making sense, Kage. What have I done 'clearly not protown'? I helped get your family wiped out.

And Disco never revealed you or Fizzil. I knew you were scum because you talked to me the first night, you said you were a wiseguy claiming you hadn't decided which way to play. Then when disco found out I was FBI, you never talked to me again. Pretty telling. Then I jokingly asked Leet in the chat why you guys wouldn't let me in your mafia. He said I smelled like pork. How did he know I was FBI (not CIA, mind you)? Obvious, disco had told your whole family about me. That's when I realized the town was taking a big loss too early if you guys took me out so soon.

My partner johnhughthom got whacked last night. Can anyone explain who was supposed to protect him and what happened?

[Proletariat]

Select: prole

[Kagemusha]

You aren't making sense, Kage. What have I done 'clearly not protown'? I helped get your family wiped out.

And Disco never revealed you or Fizzil. I knew you were scum because you talked to me the first night, you said you were a wiseguy claiming you hadn't decided which way to play. Then when disco found out I was FBI, you never talked to me again. Pretty telling. Then I jokingly asked Leet in the chat why you guys wouldn't let me in your mafia. He said I smelled like pork. How did he know I was FBI (not CIA, mind you)? Obvious, disco had told your whole family about me. That's when I realized the town was taking a big loss too early if you guys took me out so soon.

My partner johnhughthom got whacked last night. Can anyone explain who was supposed to protect him and what happened?

About JohnHuthington.I can tell you that Tincow was supposed to protect him, probably with Joe Monks i wasnt trusted because your reveal that does not even have investigation result to back it up. Also could you please explain how the rose family so easily targeted Myrddraal? In whole i think your explanation is very weak. Also maybe you would like to explain why you have been talking with a mafia luca if you are so pro town?

[Centurion1]

What about this kunai character. What is his angle? Does he intend to scare people off their chosen path?

[Andres]

Kage, maybe Prole has her own objective, but it seems like she at least helped the town to get an entire mafia family.

Surely, you understand that town is willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. As for you, you're probably scum trying to mess with our minds. I know from experience that doing just that is great fun, so: have fun!

But excuse me if I'm going to ignore you, at least until we get your autopsy.

[Kagemusha]

Kage, maybe Prole has her own objective, but it seems like she at least helped the town to get an entire mafia family.

Surely, you understand that town is willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. As for you, you're probably scum trying to mess with our minds. I know from experience that doing just that is great fun, so: have fun!

But excuse me if I'm going to ignore you, at least until we get your autopsy.

Never expected anything else Andres, but remember to check back here when my autopsy will come out.:yes:

[TinCow]

Never expected anything else Andres, but remember to check back here when my autopsy will come out.:yes:

I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to convince us of? You've confessed to being a wiseguy who joined a mafia family. If what you say is true, that's enough of a reason to lynch you right there.

[Centurion1]

You've confessed to being a wiseguy who joined a mafia family.

Where is that? It would totally clarify my vote though. (which is already pretty clear)

[Kagemusha]

I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to convince us of? You've confessed to being a wiseguy who joined a mafia family. If what you say is true, that's enough of a reason to lynch you right there.

I joined a family but did nothing for them. You do realise? In matter of fact i was protecting people in which you for example failed last night. I did nothing to help mafia, nor did i kill anyone. I just got inside their organization when Prole started talking and for example you started planning on killing me without even asking me any questions. You just decided to assume things. That is not my problem.

[TinCow]

I joined a family but did nothing for them. You do realise? In matter of fact i was protecting people in which you for example failed last night. I did nothing to help mafia, nor did i kill anyone. I just got inside their organization when Prole started talking and for example you started planning on killing me without even asking me any questions. You just decided to assume things. That is not my problem.

So, what... we should let you live so that you can join another family? If you recall, that's what we did with scottishranger in Capo 2. Surely I don't need to point out why that was a bad idea.

[ULC]

I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to convince us of? You've confessed to being a wiseguy who joined a mafia family. If what you say is true, that's enough of a reason to lynch you right there.

We are lynching him based on guilt by association, not guilt by deed.

Vote: Kagemusha

Sorry Kage, but guilt by association is just as good in a Capo game.

[Kagemusha]

So, what... we should let you live so that you can join another family? If you recall, that's what we did with scottishranger in Capo 2. Surely I don't need to point out why that was a bad idea.

Like i said to Andres already i dont expect for you to do so. This is just something for you to think. Also maybe you should consider how helpful i was to mafia when it has been quite long a go i learned about johnhuthington and never did rose mafia attack you or Joe or him, while town was getting information through him.

My undoing was that unlike some others i did not follow blindly others. Not that i could do anything anymore even if i lived, nor would even want when i have witnessed how those who worked with me have acted upon Proles reveal. You are not worth working with.

All i will say that eventually you will realise that i have spoken truth, hopefully it wont be too late for you when you realise that.

[Centurion1]

The above exchange convinced me

Vote: Kagemusha

[Kagemusha]

We are lynching him based on guilt by association, not guilt by deed.

Vote: Kagemusha

Sorry Kage, but guilt by association is just as good in a Capo game.

Then you should lynch Proletariat also as she has admitted being in contact with mafia luca while both knew others role.

[ULC]

Then you should lynch Proletariat also as she has admitted being in contact with mafia luca while both knew others role.

Don't twist my words Kage - you worked with them knowingly and have admitted doing so, removing a cent of a doubt that your actions could have had any innocent motives behind them. I cannot, nor can any but Prole, say the same for her, and knowing who she is working with, she will be doubled checked, triple checked, thoroughly.

[Kagemusha]

Don't twist my words Kage - you worked with them knowingly and have admitted doing so, removing a cent of a doubt that your actions could have had any innocent motives behind them. I cannot, nor can any but Prole, say the same for her, and knowing who she is working with, she will be doubled checked, triple checked, thoroughly.

And what you have to proof that? I never shared information with them that was useful, nor did i kill for them. Proletariat gave them a detective. The only problem you have with that is that you cant check her for that kind of actions. Im glad that she admitted it herself. Bit of mistake from her.

[gibsonsg91921]

Vote: Kagemusha

I don't think I need to explain why.

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Kagemusha

Kinds sorry to see this one's still alive... :no:

My interpretation of the night's results:

1. Psychonaut and johnhughthom were both killed by the same mafia family - I'll call them the Jabberwocky mafia. These are their first kills; they must've spent the first few rounds recruiting (with some success, I might add, if they're able to carry out two kills in one night).

2. Lord Winter was attacked by the kunai guy. As has been noted, in every similar attack only one attacker is present and the victim survives. It does seem at this point that the objective may not be the victim's death; but then what could the real objective be?

3. Proletariat was attacked twice - once by a vigilante group which fell short because only three out of four members showed up, and once by the mafia. The mafia hit failed because Proletariat was guarded by a single protector.

4. Craterus was probably killed by a serial killer, as only one attacker is mentioned. Also, the manner of the death is significant - very gruesome with none of the usual mafia "calling cards." I will note that the killer spelled out the number 5, and in a possible coincidence, this was night 5. I'm worried we may have a killer whose kills begin after a set period of time.

5. Iskander3.1 was attacked by what appears to be a solitary vigilante, but survived due to luck. (A note about these "lucky" survivors - if Capo II is to be any guide, their luck only holds for the first attack against them. Subsequent attacks are likely to result in their death, although they still retain a small chance (1/36) of surviving due to luck.)

6. Leet Erickson was taken out by a vigilante squad. I left this one for last because I was a member of that squad. Yes, I helped kill Leet on suspicion of being a mafia Made gangster.

Reenk, your suggestion to wait for the autopsy results on discovery1 and atheotes was not realistic. This is Capo, and there are a lot of villains out there. When you have a mafia family on the ropes, you finish them; you don't wait for them to regroup and recover or cause more damage. I had confirmation of Leet's guilt from a source that appears to be pretty reliable, and this was enough for me to role the dice. I hope I'm not wrong, but I don't think I am.

Anyway, it looks like the lynching of GH was indeed a success. The loss of a detective in CountArach is regrettable, but the writeup indicates there was something unusual about him and that we'll know more on day 7.

Good speculative post. All I have to say is two things. The target for the vig hit should definitely have been Kage rather than Leet. Just that I had a source on Leet being cleared so Kage was the more pressing suspect. Also, I have to commend you on on flushing out GH, it makes up for killing CA.

Now then on CA, this was Atpg's push at a lynch if I remember right. That being said, it seemed like an analysis of his posts and role play rather than anything else. I believe CA was forced to roleplay a character while also being a detective (maybe a red text thing).

Also, I have a good amount of reasonable suspicion on who attacked me on Night 4. However, it will not be revealed until next round after I continue to talk with some people because we shouldn't be distracted.

[TinCow]

Good speculative post. All I have to say is two things. The target for the vig hit should definitely have been Kage rather than Leet. Just that I had a source on Leet being cleared so Kage was the more pressing suspect.

We were pretty sure Kage was still a wiseguy, while we were unsure of Leet's role. Based on that, we concluded that Leet was the more important target, as he was possibly the missing Made from that family (which Kage has recently stated was in fact the case). ATPG was trying to get a group together to kill Kage, but was unable.

One thing that does give me pause is why there appears to have been a vigilante hit on Prole. Does anyone know who organized that thing and who participated? Those people need to be heavily scrutinized; there was a lot of work to be done last night, and whoever decided a vig kill of Prole was a priority has some serious questions to answer.

[edit] On re-read, Kage appears to have said (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2319084&postcount=1509) that atheotes was actually the Made and Leet was the Don. This would explain an innocent investigation result on Leet:


Not at any point did i join an attack of that family, which consisted of him, Atheotes and Leet Eriksson. A luca, Made and a Don. The family was the "rose" family which has now suddenly stopped killing after disco and Leet are dead.

[Chaotix]

:laugh4:

I liked the Lewis Carroll mafia kills.

Vote: Kagemusha

He is the last remaining member of a mafia family. We can't go wrong there. Think about it: if all the other members are dead, as he has claimed, and he was formally inducted, then that makes him the new Don, right? Even if he wasn't planning on it before, he's now the head of his own one-man mafia outfit.

Taking that into account: while I certainly do not think Kage is to be trusted, we should probably keep an eye on Proletariat. We don't have to lynch her; she is most likely pro-town. But we shouldn't let her slip back under the radar (like Sasaki :brood:), in case there really is something fishy about her.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Kagemusha



One thing that does give me pause is why there appears to have been a vigilante hit on Prole. Does anyone know who organized that thing and who participated? Those people need to be heavily scrutinized; there was a lot of work to be done last night, and whoever decided a vig kill or Prole was a priority has some serious questions to answer..
Very well. T'was me. As was evident in the writeup, there was one person who did not send orders in. Thus, we failed, though it seems we would have failed anyways due to a protector. My view of prole was one of a player who is neither pro-town or pro-mafia. While she would undoubtedly have an impetus to take down mafia(as the ones most liable to kill her at night), her behavior for much of the game, in my mind, confirmed the reveal by Kage. Yes, Kage is a mafioso, but he has no reason to fib about Prole to get her lynched when his own mafia buddies could go after her at night(which seemed true).

Also, interesting that Prole was protected by a single protector.

Anyways, go ahead and shoot questions.

[TinCow]

Anyways, go ahead and shoot questions.

Was ATPG involved in the planning of that hit in any way?

[seireikhaan]

Was ATPG involved in the planning of that hit in any way?
Of course not. My objections to pizza still stand.

[Centurion1]

Of course not. My objections to pizza still stand.

What exactly are your objections?

[Kagemusha]

We were pretty sure Kage was still a wiseguy, while we were unsure of Leet's role. Based on that, we concluded that Leet was the more important target, as he was possibly the missing Made from that family (which Kage has recently stated was in fact the case). ATPG was trying to get a group together to kill Kage, but was unable.

One thing that does give me pause is why there appears to have been a vigilante hit on Prole. Does anyone know who organized that thing and who participated? Those people need to be heavily scrutinized; there was a lot of work to be done last night, and whoever decided a vig kill of Prole was a priority has some serious questions to answer.

[edit] On re-read, Kage appears to have said (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2319084&postcount=1509) that atheotes was actually the Made and Leet was the Don. This would explain an innocent investigation result on Leet:

Nope Leet was the made. Atheotes was the Don.


:laugh4:

I liked the Lewis Carroll mafia kills.

Vote: Kagemusha

He is the last remaining member of a mafia family. We can't go wrong there. Think about it: if all the other members are dead, as he has claimed, and he was formally inducted, then that makes him the new Don, right? Even if he wasn't planning on it before, he's now the head of his own one-man mafia outfit.

Taking that into account: while I certainly do not think Kage is to be trusted, we should probably keep an eye on Proletariat. We don't have to lynch her; she is most likely pro-town. But we shouldn't let her slip back under the radar (like Sasaki :brood:), in case there really is something fishy about her.

Only made gangsters should be able to be Dons, not wiseguys i assume.

[TinCow]

Nope Leet was the made. Atheotes was the Don.


Just that I had a source on Leet being cleared

Reenk, you need to ask your source some pointed questions.

[seireikhaan]

What exactly are your objections?
His constant double-speak, his control over an entirely too large portion of townspeople, his waiting until just before the round he was possibly going to be lynched to reveal disco as a luca. That, and for all of the bluster that is made of what his protection groups is, he himself is unaccounted for, sans a kill against an innocent person which was made with a mafioso.

[Centurion1]

Kage your case is incredibly weak. you were a made gangster but you never killed anyone.......

[DisgruntledGoat]

I believe he said he is a wiseguy not a made.

If Kage is to be believed ATPG is playing both sides feeding information back and forth. That makes sense, as NO ONE has made any attempts on his life during night phases. If ATPG was such a threat to the mafia wouldn't they have at least tried to take him out by now. I think that adds some credence to what Kage is saying.

Without a Don or a Made Kage is back to his Wiseguy unaffiliated status. The question becomes can we trust him enough to go straight rather than get himself recruited again. I have to agree that doesn't seem like the best thing we can do.

So

Vote: Kagemusha

[Double A]

What about this kunai character. What is his angle? Does he intend to scare people off their chosen path?

Hey buddy, don't make me sue you for copyright infringement of my ideas!

But that's still something to be considered since no one paid attention the first 2 times it was brought up.

I'm going to not vote for now, gonna get some rest (and yes I'm aware it's 11:30 am) and then do some more reading.

[Kagemusha]

Kage your case is incredibly weak. you were a made gangster but you never killed anyone.......

Lol! Where it said i was a made gangster? Id suggest you to try and read the thread before posting.:laugh4:

[woad&fangs]

Vote: Gibsong

I want to know who you killed.

[Kagemusha]

To me this is quite hilarious to be honest. Case against me is that Prole told some of you that i was recruited by discovery1. She has no proof of that except discos word. On the other hand i came completely clean about what i have been doing and i have done nothing that holds for lynching other then joined a mafia family without helping them anyway. Now im a wiseguy without kills just like i was in the beginning of the game, but im sooo terribly dangerous i need to be lynched.:skull:

On the other hand you have pizza who actually has killed an innocent and was behind lynch of a detective. Proletariat who you are not even questioning while she revealed herself to a mafia luca and gave a detective for that mafia family to kill. And you people are not even trying to make them talk. Maybe the fact is that you are beyond of questioning your "heroes" while both have done enough to warrant lynching. Good luck to you people.

[gibsonsg91921]

Vote: Gibsong

I want to know who you killed.

We've been over this, I killed Quintus and only Quintus. I'm working in a pro-town vigilante group, scum-hunting.

[naut]

We've been over this, I killed Quintus and only Quintus. I'm working in a pro-town vigilante group, scum-hunting.
Happy hunting. :balloon2:

[shlin28]

Vote: Kage for obvious reasons.

I wish to hear more from prole, I must be the only one who doesn't know anything about her role/investigation results, and just WHY did she talk with a mafia don?

[woad&fangs]

We've been over this, I killed Quintus and only Quintus. I'm working in a pro-town vigilante group, scum-hunting.

unvote: gibsong; vote: abstain

Ok, I didn't see that:yes:

[Iskander 3.1]

Vote: Kagemusha

Considering the circumstances, a bandwagon vote is justified. As for myself, looks like somebody likes me, and somebody else doesn't...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Bad bandwagon...

With leet, disco, and atheotes dead kage is back to unaffiliated wise guy. Put him back in a prot group for now and go after one of those on pizza's list of guilty results.

Vote:Joe Monks

These huge bandwagons smell like mafia glad to lynch anyone but themselves. TinCow should know better imo...

[Moros]

select: Reenk Roink
vote: err... Gah! I guess Kage looks to be scum. Yet it might not be bad to get more than one person lynched. Especially considering the many kills this night. I'm gonna wait with voting. To see if someonelse appears to be a bad boy as well.

[johnhughthom]

I just wanted to mention TinCow was not supposed to protect me last night, I was aware of it and thought I had protection from another source. So I ask that source, what happened?

[Tratorix]

Why are we lynching an unaffiliated wiseguy? With the rest of his family dead, he can't really do anything right now. Seems a waste of a lynch to me.

[Joe Monks]

I just wanted to mention TinCow was not supposed to protect me last night, I was aware of it and thought I had protection from another source. So I ask that source, what happened?

I think you need to name and shame John.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think you need to name and shame John.

Uh huh, you want him to name the doctor (?) who was supposed to protect him?

Why are we lynching kage instead of joe monks?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just wanted to mention TinCow was not supposed to protect me last night, I was aware of it and thought I had protection from another source. So I ask that source, what happened?

Unless you're referring to another source:

Your protection moved off of you against my wishes late in the night phase. I requested an extension, but to no avail. I tried to ask for volunteers but no takers. We cannot change gears like that in the middle of a night phase. I apologize but this one is absolutely not my fault, and I did everything in my power to handle it, but it was too late.

[gibsonsg91921]

Why are we lynching an unaffiliated wiseguy? With the rest of his family dead, he can't really do anything right now. Seems a waste of a lynch to me.

at various times in Capo II, I was affiliated with, in order, the Stracchis, Tataglias, Cunnios, and finally Pentangelis. once you go mafia you... never go back.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Joe Monks

At least make it a double lynch.

[gibsonsg91921]

unvote: Kage, vote: Joe Monks

worst case scenario, we still get kage. i don't think anyone can deny that

[DisgruntledGoat]

Whats the tally. If its close I'll switch up my votes.

[TinCow]

Why exactly are votes going on Joe Monks?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why exactly are votes going on Joe Monks?

Guilty result unexplained, rolefishing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Actually you know what? I think I already got the explanation for Joe Monks.

unvote: Joe Monks
vote: A Very Super Market


Admitted criminal, does not want to do group actions.

[TinCow]

Guilty result unexplained, rolefishing.

It's not unexplained at all. He was part of the vig group that killed Leet last night. Strange that I specifically told ATPG this by PM, yet he seems to find Joe a worthy lynch target.

[Andres]

Bad bandwagon...

With leet, disco, and atheotes dead kage is back to unaffiliated wise guy. Put him back in a prot group for now and go after one of those on pizza's list of guilty results.

Vote:Joe Monks

These huge bandwagons smell like mafia glad to lynch anyone but themselves. TinCow should know better imo...

Ehm, it's possible Kage did two sanctioned hits which would make him a Made by now.


Guilty result unexplained, rolefishing.

The guilty result on Joe Monks comes from a pro-town night action. I can pretty much vouch for it.

If you're going for a tie, I think Khazaar might be a better choice.

[Andres]

Dutch_guy has a grand total of 0 posts in this thread, yet he didn't get WoG'ed.

:inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's not unexplained at all. He was part of the vig group that killed Leet last night. Strange that I specifically told ATPG this by PM, yet he seems to find Joe a worthy lynch target.

Sorry, no sleep last night and did unemployment meeting today, grocery shopping, and brain is fried. I already remembered and unvoted him.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Wait, I don't get it.

Why can't we just pay the mafia to leave us alone?

[Andres]

Wait, I don't get it.

Why can't we just pay the mafia to leave us alone?

So, ACIN, tell us, what have you been doing the previous nights (in-game that is)?

After all, a player new to mafia being scum is not entirely uncommon.

Talk.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Vote: AVSM

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Unvote:Joe Monks, vote:AVSM

[a completely inoffensive name]

So, ACIN, tell us, what have you been doing the previous nights (in-game that is)?

After all, a player new to mafia being scum is not entirely uncommon.

Talk.

Having some good lulz over this game. Getting some info from informants and telling people what I know. Thanks for the unnecessary target on me though, kthxbi.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Courtesy tally:

Kagemusha: 16 (Kommodus, Andres, Sigurd, AggonyDuck, TinCow, Beefy, Proletariat, Joooray, Beskar, YLC, Centurion1, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, DisgruntledGoat, shlin28, Iskander 3.1)

AVSM: 3 (Askthepizzaguy, ACIN, Sasaki Kojiro)

Joe Monks: 1 (gibsonsg91921)


abstain: 2 (twilightblade, woad&fangs)
present: 1 (gaius scribonius curio)

[Tratorix]

Vote: AVSM

[Sasaki Kojiro]

In the future we should cap early bandwagon votes on someone at 10, in case we later change our mind or want to go for a tie.

[johnhughthom]

Your protection moved off of you against my wishes late in the night phase. I requested an extension, but to no avail. I tried to ask for volunteers but no takers. We cannot change gears like that in the middle of a night phase. I apologize but this one is absolutely not my fault, and I did everything in my power to handle it, but it was too late.

This strikes me as very odd, why didn't you let me know? Askthepizzaguy too shy to fire out a short pm.... Sound likely to anybody?

[scottishranger]

Having some good lulz over this game. Getting some info from informants and telling people what I know. Thanks for the unnecessary target on me though, kthxbi.

Hmm, thats quite a good townie answer.

Vote ACIN

[Ironside]

This strikes me as very odd, why didn't you let me know? Askthepizzaguy too shy to fire out a short pm.... Sound likely to anybody?

Commie indications on you perhaps? Of course you can't tell that now, but I suspect our commie hunters are even supposed to be quite reckless. A good question is if the mafia have any commies among their ranks. Because if it's only townie commies, the commie hunters might consider to drop some names to the mafia (like Kage is accusing Prole of) to killl the commies off.

It wouldn't surprise me if the attack on Prole was done by commie vigilantes.

But for now they still seem to flush out more mafia than townies.

Anyway Vote: AVSM, but I doubt we get enough votes for a dual lynch.

[KukriKhan]

Commie indications on you perhaps? Of course you can't tell that now, but I suspect our commie hunters are even supposed to be quite reckless. A good question is if the mafia have any commies among their ranks. Because if it's only townie commies, the commie hunters might consider to drop some names to the mafia (like Kage is accusing Prole of) to killl the commies off.

It wouldn't surprise me if the attack on Prole was done by commie vigilantes.

But for now they still seem to flush out more mafia than townies.

Good point. Hmmm


Anyway Vote: AVSM, but I doubt we get enough votes for a dual lynch.

Let's give it a shot anyway, and see if our Esteemed Director* will oblige again.

vote: AVSM

*Very noble of him to step down, exposing himself to harm, while giving another player an opportunity to Direct.

[johnhughthom]

Commie indications on you perhaps? Of course you can't tell that now, but I suspect our commie hunters are even supposed to be quite reckless. A good question is if the mafia have any commies among their ranks. Because if it's only townie commies, the commie hunters might consider to drop some names to the mafia (like Kage is accusing Prole of) to killl the commies off.

It wouldn't surprise me if the attack on Prole was done by commie vigilantes.

But for now they still seem to flush out more mafia than townies.

Anyway Vote: AVSM, but I doubt we get enough votes for a dual lynch.

I was not a commie, and they know that.

[ULC]

Hmmm...a tie I suppose would be fine - if there are enough supporters.

Unvote: Kagemusha, Vote: AVSM

[Beskar]

What have you been up to, YLC? Hm? I sense you are slithering by without much of a word. I can tell you are no Griffindore.

[ULC]

What have you been up to, YLC? Hm? I sense you are slithering by without much of a word. I can tell you are no Griffindore.

Specific opinion, no? I suggest we do not get into a war about whom is innocent, I think you'll lose on that one :wink: - lets focus on what we have on our plate, before we try to add more.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:AVSM for a tie:clown:

Why do I feel like a Cold War is emerging, between ATPG and Reenk??:sweatdrop:

[Beskar]

Specific opinion, no? I suggest we do not get into a war about whom is innocent, I think you'll lose on that one :wink: - lets focus on what we have on our plate, before we try to add more.

So why the we and why not just say you are so? I didn't quite catch what you are trying to say what you are. Maybe bold and underline it a little, or you might just be another Slytherin.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hmm, thats quite a good townie answer.

Vote ACIN

That vote does not count. That is not my name. My name is, "A Completely Inoffensive Name" and I expect everyone to have the courtesy of calling me by it.

[Beefy187]

Unvote, Vote: AVSM

I'll contribute to making a tie.

[LittleGrizzly]

I wasn't sure about the kage lynch but AVSM doesn't seem to challenge the accusations made against him so im happy to tie it up...

Vote AVSM

We are not selecting directors this phase are we ?

[slashandburn]

Vote: AVSM Trying for the tie again. Probably won't work but hey it might happen again.

[gibsonsg91921]

Unvote: Joe Monks

I've been there.

Vote: A Very Super Market

because I believe in ties still.

[ULC]

So why the we and why not just say you are so? I didn't quite catch what you are trying to say what you are. Maybe bold and underline it a little, or you might just be another Slytherin.

Stop rolefishing - it gets irritating every game you come after me like this, when I dropped it awhile ago. This is pointless and distracting, and if it's required, I can easily submit to someones investigation.

Really Beskar, this is out of the blue, so I'm not quite sure why in the first place you've decided to go after me - if you have a case MAKE IT. Let the town consider it, but don't just dance around it like you have something up your sleeve and distract people from the current plan.

Post antagonistically again like that, and I will not respond.

[Joooray]

Okay, if it helps with the wipe-out of the bad guys.

Unvote : Kage ; Vote : AVSM

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, if it helps with the wipe-out of the bad guys.

Unvote : Kage ; Vote : AVSM

Jooray, what have you been up to these past few nights?

[Kommodus]

Updated tally:

Kagemusha: 13 (Kommodus, Andres, Sigurd, AggonyDuck, TinCow, Proletariat, Beskar, Centurion1, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, DisgruntledGoat, shlin28, Iskander 3.1)

AVSM: 13 (Askthepizzaguy, ACIN, Sasaki Kojiro, Tratorix, Ironside, Kukrikhan, YLC, WhiteEyes, Beefy, LittleGrizzly, slashandburn, gibsonsg91921, Joooray)

ACIN: 1 (scottishranger)

abstain: 2 (twilightblade, woad&fangs)
present: 1 (gaius scribonius curio)

I think we have our tie guys, let's keep it that way.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Technically I am in second place.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Unvote; Vote: scottishranger

[TinCow]

Kage hasn't voted yet. Anyone who expects him to let this tie stand is fooling themselves.

[Joooray]

Jooray, what have you been up to these past few nights?

I've been engaged in a protection group here and there. Generally feeling quite lost in my first mafia game. :juggle2:

But thank you for asking, that's so nice of you. :sweatdrop:

[ULC]

I've been engaged in a protection group here and there. Generally feeling quite lost in my first mafia game. :juggle2:

But thank you for asking, that's so nice of you. :sweatdrop:

GH was a Luca - ignore him, there is no point to even responding to dead mafioso, let alone to listen to them.

[Joooray]

GH was a Luca - ignore him, there is no point to even responding to dead mafioso, let alone to listen to them.

True, but he asked so nicely. :clown: Still got a lot to learn. :laugh4:

[Beskar]

Stop rolefishing - it gets irritating every game you come after me like this, when I dropped it awhile ago. This is pointless and distracting, and if it's required, I can easily submit to someones investigation.

Really Beskar, this is out of the blue, so I'm not quite sure why in the first place you've decided to go after me - if you have a case MAKE IT. Let the town consider it, but don't just dance around it like you have something up your sleeve and distract people from the current plan.

Post antagonistically again like that, and I will not respond.

You are taking it too serious. I was doing it in a very jokingly friendly hit-in-the-arm best buds kind of way. All I wanted you to do was underline and bold saying about not being a Mafia. Wasn't asking for your first-born child.

Seriously, YLC, you hurt me suggesting I am hunting you down like a dog. :sad:

[ULC]

You are taking it too serious. I was doing it in a very jokingly friendly hit-in-the-arm best buds kind of way. All I wanted you to do was underline and bold saying about not being a Mafia. Wasn't asking for your first-born child.

Seriously, YLC, you hurt me suggesting I am hunting you down like a dog. :sad:

If I was a mafioso, would I tell you? It's a silly question, but it is essentially what your asking. Anyone would answer "Yes, I am a townie".

[Beskar]

If I was a mafioso, would I tell you? It's a silly question, but it is essentially what your asking. Anyone would answer "Yes, I am a townie".

Doesn't mean you not have committed any crimes though. Do you lead a life of crime?

[ULC]

Doesn't mean you not have committed any crimes though. Do you lead a life of crime?

*facedesk*
Okay, I'm done here.

[White_eyes:D]

*groans* not another YLC/Beskar pointing fingers debate.....:wall:

[Beskar]

What I don't understand, why doesn't YLC just answer me? :shrug:

After all, he keeps saying he could simply lie about it. Why does he keep avoiding the question and attacking me, and just simply reply? If something is so simple for you to do, why won't you do it. It makes no sense for you not to do it, unless you are trying to hide something.

To me, something isn't right.

[Chaotix]

What I don't understand, why doesn't YLC just answer me? :shrug:

After all, he keeps saying he could simply lie about it. Why does he keep avoiding the question and attacking me, and just simply reply? If something is so simple for you to do, why won't you do it. It makes no sense for you not to do it, unless you are trying to hide something.

To me, something isn't right.

Because you are being a troll.

Asking someone if they are mafia and if they have committed criminal actions does not help us at all because lying is a principle part of the game. YLC tried to explain this.

Continuing to request that someone give "the right answer" to a question where everyone knows "the right answer" is pointless, because you already know what he would say if he were to consider answering you anyway.

[Beskar]

No, it is nothing to being a troll. If I kept harassing him after he said it, that would be trolling or causing trouble.

All I asked was a simple question, all he had to do was answer it. :shrug:

However, even though he keeps arguing it is pointless, he is some how not answering, isn't that very suspicious to you? If it is so easy, if it is so easy to lie, why won't he just do it? End of discussion, end of the argument. Is that so hard?

[LittleGrizzly]

Unless YLC is proven to be a person that cannot lie then it is pointless asking him a simple flat out question like that...

[Chaotix]

No, it is nothing to being a troll. If I kept harassing him after he said it, that would be trolling or causing trouble.

Not like what you're doing right now, of course.



All I asked was a simple question, all he had to do was answer it. :shrug:

However, even though he keeps arguing it is pointless, he is some how not answering, isn't that very suspicious to you? If it is so easy, if it is so easy to lie, why won't he just do it? End of discussion, end of the argument. Is that so hard?

No, I don't find it suspicious that he won't answer you. If YLC had any real qualms about lying in a game, he would not be playing Mafia, I think. And from both his tone and white_eyes' comment, it seems as if this is not the first time you've asked a question like this in a game, and he is tired of it. He is not avoiding the question, he is simply avoiding you in general.

[Xehh II]

Vote: AVSM

[Beskar]

No, I don't find it suspicious that he won't answer you. If YLC had any real qualms about lying in a game, he would not be playing Mafia, I think. And from both his tone and white_eyes' comment, it seems as if this is not the first time you've asked a question like this in a game, and he is tired of it. He is not avoiding the question, he is simply avoiding you in general.

That statement is completely incorrect. He is deliberately avoiding answering and it is not because it is me. If "me" is the problem, then you ask him, right here in the thread.

He is using the whole personal thing to get away from answering it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: abstain

You guys are forgetting about Kagemusha's non-vote. He's going to vote to save himself, so factor that in to the tied vote. 13-12 acts as a tied vote here.



Updated tally:

Kagemusha: 13 (Kommodus, Andres, Sigurd, AggonyDuck, TinCow, Proletariat, Beskar, Centurion1, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, DisgruntledGoat, shlin28, Iskander 3.1)

AVSM: 12 (Sasaki Kojiro, Tratorix, Ironside, Kukrikhan, YLC, WhiteEyes, Beefy, LittleGrizzly, slashandburn, gibsonsg91921, Joooray, Xehh II,

ACIN: 1 (scottishranger)
scottishranger: 1 (ACIN)

abstain: 2 (twilightblade, woad&fangs, Askthepizzaguy)
present: 1 (gaius scribonius curio)


I think we have our tie guys, let's keep it that way.

Guys? Please. Let's be careful here. Keep the tie a tie.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Beskar, it's a ******* game, if he wants to ignore you he can do that. Stop going after him just because he may be putting on a show in order to get out of the question, even so you are still harassing him over a game.

[Tratorix]

unvote, vote: abstain

You guys are forgetting about Kagemusha's non-vote. He's going to vote to save himself, so factor that in to the tied vote. 13-12 acts as a tied vote here.



Updated tally:

Kagemusha: 13 (Kommodus, Andres, Sigurd, AggonyDuck, TinCow, Proletariat, Beskar, Centurion1, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, DisgruntledGoat, shlin28, Iskander 3.1)

AVSM: 12 (Sasaki Kojiro, Tratorix, Ironside, Kukrikhan, YLC, WhiteEyes, Beefy, LittleGrizzly, slashandburn, gibsonsg91921, Joooray, Xehh II,

ACIN: 1 (scottishranger)
scottishranger: 1 (ACIN)

abstain: 2 (twilightblade, woad&fangs, Askthepizzaguy)
present: 1 (gaius scribonius curio)



Guys? Please. Let's be careful here. Keep the tie a tie.

See, now he's not going to vote just out of spite.

[Diana Abnoba]

vote: abstain to keep the tie, also just to make sure you guys know AVSM hasn't voted either.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ack.

Favor Kagemusha for the lynch, I'd suggest. I don't think AVSM cares enough to do that last minute tie-breaking thing. I've never seen him care enough about a game to do that. :laugh4:

[Centurion1]

Yeah but who is the greater threat to the town......?

How long to the lynch deadline

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Kagemusha joined a family and became a made, he's probably the larger threat.

However, AVSM's admitted criminality and refusal to do anything productive can only mean he's either worthless to us or waiting to become a made gangster or already is one. He's definitely gotta go over everyone else besides Kage, most likely. At least, of those that we know are criminals.

Certainly a third luca or another Don would be nice... :grin:

[Diana Abnoba]

end of phase 2200 EST (less than 1 hour from now)
Both wiseguys, but Kagemusha seems more into joining a family, so with his gone now, he will look for a new one.

[White_eyes:D]

I am going to give Beskar credit, for the fact that a few times he went after YLC...he was right 50% of the time:shame:

But he had proof those times....right now unless, you have more proof it's better to keep it under wraps:yes:

And if lurking is a scum-tell in a game like this...we are doomed:laugh4:

[a completely inoffensive name]

And if lurking is a scum-tell in a game like this...we are doomed:laugh4:

If lurking is a scum-tell in this game, then I am cleared of all charges.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

unvote, vote: abstain

You guys are forgetting about Kagemusha's non-vote. He's going to vote to save himself, so factor that in to the tied vote. 13-12 acts as a tied vote here.



Updated tally:

Kagemusha: 13 (Kommodus, Andres, Sigurd, AggonyDuck, TinCow, Proletariat, Beskar, Centurion1, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, DisgruntledGoat, shlin28, Iskander 3.1)

AVSM: 12 (Sasaki Kojiro, Tratorix, Ironside, Kukrikhan, YLC, WhiteEyes, Beefy, LittleGrizzly, slashandburn, gibsonsg91921, Joooray, Xehh II,

ACIN: 1 (scottishranger)
scottishranger: 1 (ACIN)

abstain: 2 (twilightblade, woad&fangs, Askthepizzaguy)
present: 1 (gaius scribonius curio)



Guys? Please. Let's be careful here. Keep the tie a tie.


I spend two full capo games trying to get people to not refer to red text and you do this to me.....:wall::wall::wall:


:laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

*hides under his layer of molten cheese*

[Splitpersonality]

Vote:Kagemusha

[Chaotix]

Vote:Kagemusha

Way to break the delicate tie we had there. :laugh4:

[LittleGrizzly]

I would think Kage would be the better to keep alive... at least he is willing to answer accusations against him... has he shown willingness to do night work ?

[GeneralHankerchief]

A bit belated, but everybody needs to chill. ~:grouphug:

[Kagemusha]

I have been in a protection group the whole game. You can do a FBI investigation on me and see that i havent killed anybody and no im not going to vote to break any ties. So do what you think is best.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote: abstain, vote: AVSM


Kagemusha: 14 (Kommodus, Andres, Sigurd, AggonyDuck, TinCow, Proletariat, Beskar, Centurion1, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, DisgruntledGoat, shlin28, Iskander 3.1, Splitpersonality)

AVSM: 13 (Sasaki Kojiro, Tratorix, Ironside, Kukrikhan, YLC, WhiteEyes, Beefy, LittleGrizzly, slashandburn, gibsonsg91921, Joooray, Xehh II, Askthepizzaguy)

ACIN: 1 (scottishranger)
Scottish: 1 (ACIN)

abstain: 2 (twilightblade, woad&fangs)
present: 1 (gaius scribonius curio)

[Diana Abnoba]

Unvote: vote: AVSM

[Seamus Fermanagh]

.org was unaccessible here for nearly two hours. I will therefore give an extension to Midnight Eastern and then finalize the results.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Yay!!!!:party:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Round should be over... ended in a tie. I had two people double check the tally.

[LittleGrizzly]

Hmm if Kage has been in protection groups since the event maybe we should have given him another chance...

IMO anyway...

Doesn't matter now anyway... lets hope AVSM has been a naughty boy...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Little piece of lint in the breeze;
Why is it you make me sneeze?
You're not very pretty.
This is true.
When you're around
I go ahchoo.

To the garbage you must go;
Don't cry on my shoulder
Or ask to stay when the answer's no!

My allergies should give you a hint
That I want to discard you little piece of lint

-- Steven West


Evening Meeting, Day Six

The meeting had started off with a bang, as Kagemusha had anticipated that he was the target of suspicion and had prepared his response to his many interlocutors.

Meanwhile, Reenk Roink, who had piped up a couple of times early in the afternoon from his chair (which was looking more like a throne) seemed preoccupied with other matters, and excused himself from the meeting earlier than usual.

As the afternoon proceeded however, Kagemusha seemed to accept his fate and quiet down. The committee, on the other hand, had decided that one man was not enough for this evening’s lynch, and quickly pushed for someone else to join Kagemusha at Club 30. A Very Super Market was the one pulled from the backburner for the... honor.

However, the fact that Kagemusha had purposely withheld his ballot had members of the committee uneasy that he would simply vote at the last minute and save himself, so they went ahead and made sure the lead was on Kagemusha.

By sunset, the Director's men banged the gavel and counted the votes and Kagemusha never bothered to make a last minute move. He simply walked up and took his business card, and proceeded to Club 30, turning to scowl at the committee before exiting.

When Kagemusha arrived at the club, he saw the Director in his signature cream white suit standing outside, waiting for him. Though his hat was tipped forward, Kagemusha could make out a freshly lit cigarette in his mouth.

"Moro Kage, miten voit?"

Kagemusha was not expecting to be addressed in his native language, but it was not surprising either, given that the Director was a man of culture. Kagemusha did not have time to respond to the warm greeting as the Director began speaking again, though the question was purely rhetorical anyway.

"Please do come inside, I have dinner with Fermanagh and his wife in thirty minutes at Iron Felix’s so I prefer to keep our business…."

Stopping mid-sentence, The Director suddenly tipped his hat upward. Sneering in disgust, he snapped, "Excuse me, did you come to Club 30 with LINT on your suit?"

Kagemusha glanced down at himself, then looked back up at the Director apologetically.

"Oho, tota noin!"

The Director reached into his breast pocket and pulled out a lint brush. Kagemusha glared at it with some hesitancy, but soon realized the futility of refusing it. Taking it, he began to roll it over the lint covered areas of his suit, all while the Director simply watched intently.

Suddenly, the Director took his cigarette out of his mouth and lightly tapped it, sending sparks in the direction of Kagemusha. A few sparks landed on the now lint free suit, which immediately burst into flames, engulfing Kagemusha, who dropped to the ground, rolling around frantically, howling in pain.

Taking his hat off and waving it to disperse the odor of burning flesh, the Director tried to make some more conversation.

"No Kage..." he began to inquire, "onko totta, että suomalaisessa jouluperinteessä joulupukki oli lapsia syövä villisika?"

Not receiving any answer, he stepped over Kagemusha's smoldering corpse and walked back inside the club to find a lady to accompany him to dinner with the Commissioner. His search lasted only a moment before he spied a familiar face.

“Anne, how delightful to see you! I had no idea you were stuck in Fatlington when this all started…”

Anne turned, a smile lighting her face as she saw Reenk.

“…you were marvelous as Eve, Kudos to you! Have you had dinner yet?”

Reenk paused, noting the arrival of A Very Super Market.

“What took you? Oh, excuse me Anne, just a moment.”

Reenk swept AVSM into a gentle but firm grasp leading him to the restroom hallway.

“LINT! A Very, this will simply not do!

[I]Seemingly producing another lint brush from nowhere, Director Roink quickly brushed the sleeves, lapels and back of AVSM’s jacket. A Very Super Market was flabbergasted – this behavior wasn’t at all like what he’d been dreading. As he finished, Reenk held open the door to the rather smoky men’s room.

With a powerful shove, AVSM – who simply wasn’t expecting something so simple and direct – was pushed into the men’s room. Stumbling, he fell down on the still-smoldering body of Kagemusha, whereupon the chemicals now imprinted on his jacket as well burst into flames, turning him into a human torch.

Reenk gently closed the sound-proofed door of this “special” men’s room and quickly straightened his immaculate, lint-free suit coat. He returned to the bar, to the fair Anne, and to pleasant thoughts of chef Kerensky’s sauce béarnaise.


OOC


Night Six begins. It will run through 2200 Eastern on Friday.


Vote Tally for Lynching:

1st Kagemusha: 14 (Aggonyduck, Andres, Beskar, Centurion1, Chaotix, DisgruntledGoat, Iskander3.1, Kommodus, Proletariat, Sigurd, shinseikhaan, shlin28, spL1tp3rsonality, TinCow)

1st A Very Super Market: 14 (askthepizzaguy, Beefy187, Diana Abnoba, gibsonsg91921, Ironside, Joooray, Kukrikhan, Littlegrizzly, Sasaki Kojiro, slashandburn, Tratorix, White_eyes:D, XehhII, YLC.

3rd a completely inoffensive name: 1 (scottishranger)

3rd scottishranger: 1 (a completely inoffensive name)

Others:

Abstaining: twilightblade, woad&fangs

Present: Gaius Scribonius Curio

[TinCow]

I am very impressed that we seem to have pulled off two double-lynches so far in this game. It defies belief. Well done.

[Double A]

TinCow, I know what you're thinking. But a triple lynch will never work.

[Kagemusha]

Well i didnt break the vote as i promised. Now you people should start using your own brains. Also checking out Tincow incase he will get a criminal result will gain you a mafioso. Reenk darn nice execution. If i had to pick one way of not dying it would be burning alive. So you fullfulled my biggest fear. Kiitti!:smash:

[Language please - GH]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am very impressed that we seem to have pulled off two double-lynches so far in this game. It defies belief. Well done.

I had a team of three people waiting to make sure the vote wasn't tampered with at the last minute.

[Kagemusha]

I had a team of three people waiting to make sure the vote wasn't tampered with at the last minute.

Well i must have been a real menace to the town to make it so sure that i die.:clown:

[Andres]

Well i must have been a real menace to the town to make it so sure that i die.:clown:

Well, if you weren't affiliated with a mafia family (quod non in casu, imho), then see your lynching as a recognition for your outstanding skills as a mafia player.

Maybe you didn't have the most dangerous role, but a Kagemusha who has decided to go mafia certainly is one of the most dangerous adversaries.

:bow:

[A Very Super Market]

I finally connect to the .org, and this is what awaits me.

Ah well, I had missed too much to be useful anyways.

[Moros]

AskThePizzaGuy: are you as curious as me, to see the results of AVSM's autopsy?

[DisgruntledGoat]

Well i must have been a real menace to the town to make it so sure that i die.:clown:

I think he was more worried about AVSM than you. ATPG seems to have specific targets that he really wants to see lynched.

[Reenk Roink]

Will be gone over the weekend so this needs to be said:

DON'T SELECT ME AS DIRECTOR THE UPCOMING DAY

I won't even be there to do my job for the next several days, and will be busy even after that, so while I wanted to continue on, I simply can't.

As my replacement, please select slashandburn or Kommodus, or someone of Kommodus's choosing (I'll let them deal with the specifics). These are the ones I trust the most and/or expect the best results for the townies (which is my alignment).

DO NOT SELECT ASKTHEPIZZAGUY OR PROLETARIAT!

The first because it has become quite clear with the deaths of Yaropolk and Count Arach, that he is involved in some anti-communist plot which has no bearing on the townies real cause. The second because she has been working with Mafia to further her own goals.

Thank you to all my supporters. :bow: :balloon2:

[Beskar]

AskthePizzaGuy has feed the town Mafia members and is an upstanding citizen.

[Centurion1]

Why hasn't a single hit been attempted on ATPG? I think he is pro town but i wonder what the mafia is trying to do since he has caught mafia members and is such a pro-town force.

I am withholding my selection for now. Does anyone have anymore info on mafia members i think we have really made a dent in their numbers the last few turns :2thumbsup:

[Tratorix]

AskthePizzaGuy has feed the town Mafia members and is an upstanding citizen.

:rolleyes: He's also fed us a detective.

Also, I've been wondering about something. If GH was a luca, why did he team up with ATPG to kill Yaropolk? He had to know it would draw attention to him and it would have left his don unprotected, all to kill one townie. I don't get it.

[DisgruntledGoat]

AskthePizzaGuy has feed the town Mafia members and is an upstanding citizen.

And Mafia Don can feed the town mafia members and be an upstanding citizen.... whats your point.

[Proletariat]

Why is this being considered seriously? I have not helped the mafia in anyway. It was Kage who let Disco's family know about johnhughtom being a likely FBI Agent and Kage was feeding their family our investigations. You're taking his word that I helped their family? What 'detective' did I give up? This is a blatant lie.

Also, it was ATPG's disorganization of the protection groups that got my partner john killed. Kommodus organized my own protection, but ATPG went and told the person or group protecting john to switch to me. He blames it on bad timing because of the org going down for a few hours, but either way he's responsible for john's death. He knew we were both FBI and decided to just have one of us protected, when he knew we were both going to be hit.

I know the results on ATPG were reliable when they were recieved, but that was a few nights ago and knowing what I know now, I would not trust ATPG at all.

If you are protown and want to get into some protection groups or vig kills on mafioso, contact either Kommodus or TinCow. They may not be what they say they are either, but they haven't gotten any FBI Agents killed either.



DO NOT SELECT ASKTHEPIZZAGUY OR PROLETARIAT!

The first because it has become quite clear with the deaths of Yaropolk and Count Arach, that he is involved in some anti-communist plot which has no bearing on the townies real cause. The second because she has been working with Mafia to further her own goals.

Thank you to all my supporters. :bow: :balloon2:

[Beskar]

At this rate, I am the most trustworthy.

[Moros]

Why is this being considered seriously? I have not helped the mafia in anyway. It was Kage who let Disco's family know about johnhughtom being a likely FBI Agent and Kage was feeding their family our investigations. You're taking his word that I helped their family? What 'detective' did I give up? This is a blatant lie.

Also, it was ATPG's disorganization of the protection groups that got my partner john killed. Kommodus organized my own protection, but ATPG went and told the person or group protecting john to switch to me. He blames it on bad timing because of the org going down for a few hours, but either way he's responsible for john's death. He knew we were both FBI and decided to just have one of us protected, when he knew we were both going to be hit.

I know the results on ATPG were reliable when they were recieved, but that was a few nights ago and knowing what I know now, I would not trust ATPG at all.

If you are protown and want to get into some protection groups or vig kills on mafioso, contact either Kommodus or TinCow. They may not be what they say they are either, but they haven't gotten any FBI Agents killed either.
Whatever the case, it seems to me that slashandburn or Kommodus are good candidates. You do struck me as pretty defensive, Prole. Were not even considering you for lynching. Just not considering you for director.

[Proletariat]

I'm already being asked things like this via pm, I might as well address it here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

First of all, Reenk:

What exactly have you done that makes you qualified to dictate what the town should do?

And second,

Proletariat, I did not order anyone not to protect John, and I already explained that to you and gave you the darned proof. Please dont' slander me.

[Moros]

First of all, Reenk:

What exactly have you done that makes you qualified to dictate what the town should do?

And second,

Proletariat, I did not order anyone not to protect John, and I already explained that to you and gave you the darned proof. Please dont' slander me.

Well he is the most likely one of all of us to be pro town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well he is the most likely one of all of us to be pro town.

Why is that? I hear the claim but not the reason.

[seireikhaan]

Why is that? I hear the claim but not the reason.
What makes you think that the director wouldn't be the very first person investigated?

[Askthepizzaguy]

What makes you think that the director wouldn't be the very first person investigated?

Fair enough, but I didn't get an "innocent" result from him.

[seireikhaan]

Fair enough, but I didn't get an "innocent" result from him.
From who, Reenk? Obviously that wouldn't be a worthy source. And, of course, any detectives still alive may have decided its not in their best interests to declare themselves open to the public merely for the sake of confirming Reenk's(and a few other people's, perhaps) innocence.

Perhaps the best way to put it- if Reenk had been scum(aside from a godfather, of course), he would most likely already be dead and done. Detective would have given the info away, and the bandwagon train would have gone a a chuggin'.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Since there are two sides claiming not to vote for the other, I guess I will throw my hat into the ring.

Select: ACIN

[Askthepizzaguy]

Perhaps the best way to put it- if Reenk had been scum(aside from a godfather, of course), he would most likely already be dead and done. Detective would have given the info away, and the bandwagon train would have gone a a chuggin'.

That's pretty fair reasoning. I'll go with that.

It's just that my pride has taken a beating from the poor reasons why I shouldn't be Director. I guess I have to let that dream go. :shame:

[Beefy187]

Select: slashandburn

[LittleGrizzly]

Do we carry out the selections in the night phase ?

Pizza I wouldn't take it too personally... you have got to decide several lynches and organise quite a few groups... gotta share some of the toys with everyone else ~;)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do we carry out the selections in the night phase ?

Pizza I wouldn't take it too personally... you have got to decide several lynches and organise quite a few groups... gotta share some of the toys with everyone else ~;)

No, it's too early to start selections.

Oh, no, I'm not taking it personally.... there's a lot of people in this game who would like to be the director. I wasn't even going to take a shot at it until I realized I could still perform my duty while director. I was under the impression I couldn't do anything while director.

As it now seems hopeless that I'd get the directorship, and as good a move as I believe that is, in truth there is a better move and I fully support it, even if I'm not getting full support in return. I will endorse a different candidate if they feel up to doing the funny lynch write-ups.

I admit doing the lynch writeups would be awesome though.

[Reenk Roink]

Heading out soon:

To Atpg: I'm clearly more suitable to suggest things to the town that you, not to mention that my words obviously carry more weight than yours for a pragmatic reason (it's very doubtful you would have won had I been able to run again anyway, so don't be too hurt ~:pat:).

Let's take a look at what I haven't done (that is the real question):
-I haven't teamed up with a Mafia, you have (with GH)
-I haven't killed an innocent, you have (Yaropolk at least)
-I haven't had a detective lynched, you have (CountArach)

On the other hand, you seem to be acting as if there is any evidence of my innocence "I hear the claim but not the reason". :laugh4: :rolleyes: Again, not only did I reveal a townie PM so fast on Day 1, but a subsequent detective result has cleared me. Excuse me if I don't care much for your sources which have been wrong (conveniently) in different regards.

And now, what have YOU done? You seemed megalomaniacal when you stated that you would give us a scum every round. And have you? Your gimmies have been CountArach and disco. The first is anything but (he is either the CIA undercover commie that the FBI doesn't want to get any credit or at worst he is actually a commie). Maybe you need to eliminate commies to win, but the town doesn't. The second has yet to be confirmed, and the knowledge of disco's potential guilt was divulged by me early in the second round anyway. :shrug:

Also, there are the unsavory facts that apparently you have been essentially asking people to join your groups and vote for your selection in private/chat. :no:

To Prole: Yeah, the case against you isn't nearly as strong as Atpg, it's basically Kage's word. Still, it makes sense (there is a motive). Besides, a woman director?! :drama: :clown:

On the other hand, someone like Kommodus seem MUCH better choices with MUCH better records. It was because of Kommodus that GH got lynched. Kommodus was along with TinCow a huge reason we flushed out atheotes and his potential family. His sources seem to be giving us good stuff. It is for this reason I even had him listed, alongside my original choice.

Atpg and Prole are both covering their butts anyway, there is no need to let them occupy a position of honor, security, and trust.



Now then, back to the town at large. The lynch is a single this round, don't bother going double (you make Seamus do extra work by changing mine up last time :whip:).

Don't bother protecting me when I lose my director protection unless you have nobody better to do than a townie. I have given all the things I know to various people.

For another lead for the town to look at, read this PM:


Greetings Reenk,

I'm glad you made it through the attack last night. However it seems like it was very close. I was wondering if you had the lucky trait and if that protected you last night.

I ask because I believe ATPG may have tried to kill you. I think he may be a communist.

My reasoning;
1)ATPG killed Yaropolk as one of only two people. GH, his partner, posted here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2313363&postcount=642)and suggested ATPG had a special one-shot ability.

That kill method very closely resembled a real life killing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov) by the Bulgarian Secret Police. In that case, a Bulgarian dissident was killed by a poison pellet from an umbrella in the same location on the body.

ATPG claimed Yaropolk was a communist. We know now that he's an innocent townie.

This leads me to believe several things; ATPG is a communist, he's a killer, and Yaropolk might have been a specific target for role goals (ie Yaropolk was a communist dissident in game).

2)And then the badass Eastern European lady attacked you. If you survived by luck, and ATPG is a communist spymaster of sorts, than he may have ordered it thinking you would die and he could claim the director's position easily.

In the day he begins a big push to become director. He claims it's necessary, but his only specialty is mimicking Communist Secret Police killing methods.

He did, however, go after CA, who was open about being from the Soviet Union. So I may be off here.

CR

Does it seem like CR really wants to figure out how I survived and does it also seem like he knew beforehand how the kill was going to occur. :inquisitive: Definitely list worthy my friends. :smash:

TinCow, there was no source on Leet Eriksson whatsoever. I just wanted fiz to get to play longer. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

To Reenk:

I have no rebuttal to your recounting of some of the facts about me, I only suggest that it's not being presented in a fair-minded way, and as much as I've explained myself this game, I feel as though I am speaking to a brick wall. I have no desire to go through the motions again when people aren't even listening. By the way, your appraisal of my record for revealing scumbags seems to totally ignore the list of criminals and guilty people I've presented.

I have withdrawn my question about your innocence and given up on being the director. No need to kick a man when he's down. I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from rolling your eyes at me, too, for a change.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Does it seem like CR really wants to figure out how I survived and does it also seem like he knew beforehand how the kill was going to occur. :inquisitive: Definitely list worthy my friends. :smash:

TinCow, there was no source on Leet Eriksson whatsoever. I just wanted fiz to get to play longer. :laugh4:

Yes, I did want to know, because the presence of somebody who can off directors seems noteworthy to me. I don't know how you get that I 'knew how the kill was going to occur'. If I did, why would I bother asking you? Though I suppose if I don't make a list it's not a real game of Capo. :beam:

And I'm still suspicious of a guy who uses a Bulgarian Secret Police killing method (ATPG and his umbrella with a poison pellet). :stare:

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

And I'm still suspicious of a guy who uses a Bulgarian Secret Police killing method (ATPG and his umbrella with a poison pellet). :stare:

CR

When that kill went through, I danced a jig. I also thought it was a pretty cool way to die.

I didn't choose the kill method, I didn't write the kill method. I don't know why that kill method was chosen. I've been getting headaches ever since over the kill method. If I had any say in the matter, it wouldn't have been that method, because apparently that particular method means that Seamus has proven that I am some kind of anti-USA communist spook (with a fetish for killing other communists?).

It isn't the case. This game is not that easy. The kill method does not reveal my role or alignment. If you think it does, then you can join the club and I'll be sitting over here in a miserable little corner with progressively fewer people I can talk to who don't think I'm scum.

[TinCow]

Again, not only did I reveal a townie PM so fast on Day 1, but a subsequent detective result has cleared me. Excuse me if I don't care much for your sources which have been wrong (conveniently) in different regards.

FYI, multiple people were given townie cover role PMs by Seamus.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cowhead418, Warmaster Horus, Dutch Guy, Greyblades...

I wonder why they won't post in-thread. Especially since they've all been active recently.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Strolling down the same old sidewalk
Move in for the kill and forget my name
All this time I knew that this wouldn't suffice
Make no mistake, she always knew I wouldn't break

I'd steal your eyes (I'd steal your eyes)
Just so you can never see me fall (see me fall)
I'd steal your tongue
And I'd steal your tongue
Just so you could never tell me to let go again

Who's Killing Who
Tell me again

-- Bleed the Dream “Who’s Killing Who”


Summary of Events, Night Six


Kommodus thought he saw a glint from a 3rd floor window across the street at the other end of the block, so he was already falling and rolling before the <wheeet> of the .30 ’06 round went by. If he could make it to the dumpster behind the store he’d just been passing he would have hard cover.

Kommo jumped up, moving quickly to the side, surprising Dutch_guy by nearly running into him on the sidewalk. Dutch-guy’s surprised face blew outwards from the impact of a second sniper bullet, spraying the back of Kommodus’ coat as he reached the safety of the dumpster.

As he stood there, catching his breath, a thin loop of wire whipped out of the open door on the side of the dumpster, looping over Kommodus’ panting head. The man inside quickly tightened the wire garotte by bracing his knees against the inside of the dumpster and allowing his upper body to fall backwards. The wire ripped into Kommodus’ neck, virtually decapitating him in a spray of blood.

When Fermanagh’s officers found Kommodus’ body a few minutes later, they noticed a queen of hearts had been tucked into the hatband of his fedora. On the back was written: ‘All mimsy were the Borogroves.’


TinCow expected trouble, after all this was Fatlington. When the 6-foot rabbit stepped out of the corner taproom he’d been only a few steps from entering, TinCow didn’t wait for him to level the double-barreled shotgun, but charged full bore at the bunny. He put his shoulder into the rabbit’s belly in a hit that would have done credit to an NFL linebacker. The rabbit’s gun flew out of his furry paws and into a storm drain as the rabbit – TinCow riding him – crashed to the ground.

Both men were a little stunned by the force of the blow. TinCow managed to get to his feet first, only to stop still when he felt the twin muzzles of a second shotgun gently poking him in the back of the neck.

“We’re all mad here,” said a slightly muffled voice behind him, “meow.”

The man behind TinCow pulled both triggers, only to be rewarded with two little <puff> sounds as both shells turned out to be duds. TinCow spun to attack but was clubbed down with the gun by the fellow wearing the grinning cat mask. Sirens blared close by as the police responded – no doubt called in by the other patrons at the taproom.

Groggy and bleeding from a cut to the temple, but still defiant, Tincow shouted, “Aren’t you going to try to finish the job, you freaks!”

“Eat me!” said the cat.

“I’m late…I’m late,” said the rabbit.

Both would-be killers escaped into the darkening night.



Beefy187 was walking along the damp streets, collar of his coat turned up against the persistent drizzle, when he spied the too-familiar gleam of a glossy black leather trench coat coming out of the shadows in front of him. Beefy froze, looking around for signs of golden powder, balloons; for anything weird.

“Do you like seared beef?” said the shadowy figure. “I’m serving it up ‘old-school!’”

The shadowy figure threw a large glass bottle into the air toward Beefy, intercepting it with an even more quickly thrown kunai. The bottle shattered, scattering its golden powder into the drizzle and creating a cloud of flame. Beefy, dropping flat, was spared most of the heat and searing flame – the powder had combusted too quickly and too thoroughly in the drizzle and mist of this particular Fatlington evening.

Beefy sat up, noticing without surprise that the shadowy figure had vanished, and wondering why he still smelled something burning when there were no flames visible. A split second later he figured it out, whipping off his new fedora and tossing the flaming hat into the street. Beefy had survived both attacks, but always at the cost of a fine hat.


Iskander3.1, now sporting the latest in body armor, made his way warily to his car. He paused, checking the door to see if his tell-tale had been moved and crouching down for a quick look under the body of the car. Nothing was out of place.

As he straightened to open the door, the first bullet crashed into his left knee. He half fell, catching himself with one hand and reaching for his piece with the other. The second bullet caught him in the right forearm, shattering both bones. A figure walked slowly out from between the parked vans across the street.

“If at first you don’t succeed…”

The Buntline was particularly steady in the figure’s outstretched hand.

“Try…”

A third bullet slammed into the armor over Iskander’s heart, slamming him up against the side of his car.

“Try, again.”

The final shot went straight through Iskander’s left eye.


Preferring the boardwalk because of the relatively open visibility it provided, scottishranger was reasonably secure. Like everyone these days, he wore armor and carried a handgun and like most he made a habit of not moving in a straight line or at a consistent speed. You had to make them work for it at least.

The motorcycle roared up the ramp from Glade Place and straight onto the boardwalk. Like some kind of toreador, scottishranger pirouetted and let the motorcycle race past him, crashing through the railing and onto the beach as its rider jumped clear.

But it did take his eyes off the buildings next to the boardwalk. One painful <crack> on the back of his head and scott saw nothing for a while.

He awoke, hog-tied, at the bottom of a 6-foot deep sandpit. Staring down at him were four faces – all with grim expressions and each person clutching a shovel.

“You maniacs! Why are you doing this? “I’m not one of the one’s you’re after.”

None of the expressions changed. No face showed a hint of remorse.

“Now what? You mentals just stand around and watch the surf drown me?”

They did not wait for the tide – they just filled in the hole. The roar of the surf made the screams inaudible more than a few feet away and nobody was watching the little scene in the dim drizzle that cloaked Fatlington. By morning, all signs that anyone had been there were erased by the high tide.


Khazaar, though relatively new to Fatlington, was quickly adapting to his environment. He was driving warily, wearing his armor, and had a handgun in easy reach. When he saw the two men pushing around the attractive blond – just a bit too underdressed for the weather – he didn’t stop to play the hero. Instead, he zipped up to the nearest police callbox (he’d picked up a key from a buddy in the FPD) to phone up the precinct.

His car never got there. Halfway up the block, a quick burst from a Browning heavy machine gun tore his radiator apart and cracked the motor block. He hunched down, trying to keep the heavy motor between himself and the gunner. He knew the gunfire would attract the police quickly.

A figure leaned in from the far side of the car, his hand holding a Smith and Wesson .44 “New Century” revolver extended towards Khazaar’s head. Khazaar turned, sensing something was wrong. The hollow point round, hand-loaded according to meticulous directions of Elmer Keith, made a hole just under 44 hundreths of an inch in diameter between Khazaar’s eyes. The hole in put in the far side of his skull was an order of magnitude larger. Khazaar was dead before his eyes could blink closed.


Morning Session, Day Seven


“So as you can see,” said Commissioner Fermanagh, “last night was our bloodiest yet. You MUST bring an end to this vicious attack.”

“As requested, I have also brought along the results of the post-mortem investigations we’ve conducted on Jolt and discovery1."

"Jolt had a criminal record and was probably what is colloquially called a “wiseguy,” but had no recent arrests or known mafia connection. On the other hand, discovery1 was a Mafioso – one of the Luca protection types – and his death will be of direct benefit to our town.”

"I also have one horrible point to relate. Despite having been a Fatlington detective for more than a year, CountArach was, apparently, a Red and actively working for the overthrow of the United States. Unknown to us, he'd been in the Lincoln Brigade and spent time during the war assisting the Reds in China, not Chiang's government as we'd been led to understand. I am sorry for this and I am initiating a review of all FPD personnel. I never thought McCarthy's warnings would hit quite so close to home."


Fermanagh stepped away from the podium, looking briefly at the immaculately turned out Reenk Roink, and shaking his head with an odd expression (awe?) on his face. Director Roink calmly began to review the procedures for the lynch voting and for selecting a new director.



OOC

Voting and Selection will conclude at 2200 Eastern Saturday (0200 Sunday GMT).

Having originally signed up, but withheld from play by travel, Cultured Drizzt Fan is added to play immediately.


The Cost of Life in Fatlington:

Attacked: Beefy187 (n1, n6), DJGingivtis (n2), GSC (n2), Beskar (n3), Double A (n3), Lord Winter (n3, n5), Andres (n4), Diana Abnoba (n4), Reenk Roink (n4), Iskander3.1 (n5), Proletariat (n5, n5), TinCow (n6),

Killed: Quintus.JC (n1), The Stranger (n1), Death is Yonder (n2), pevergreen (n2), Yaropolk (n2), Myrddraal (n3), Jolt (n4), Craterus (n5), johnhughthom (n5), Leet Erickson (n5), Psychonaut (n5), Iskander3.1 (n6), Khazaar (n6), Kommodus (n6), scottishranger (n6),

Lynched: Factionheir (d2), CountArach (d3), GeneralHankerchief (d3), discovery1 (d4), atheotes (d5), A Very Super Market (d6), Kagemusha (d6),

Wogged: Nole4694 (n5), Truepraetorian (n5), Dutch_guy (n6),

Added: Cultured Drizzt Fan (d7)

[Beskar]

On the other hand, discovery1 was a Mafioso – one of the Luca protection types – and his death will be of direct benefit to our town.”

"I also have one horrible point to relate. CountArach was, apparently, a Red and actively working for the overthrow of the United States. Unknown to us, he'd been in the Lincoln Brigade and spent time during the war assisting the Reds in China, not Chiang's government as we'd been led to understand. I am sorry for this and I am initiating a review of all FPD personnel. I never thought McCarthy's warnings would hit quite so close to home."



See? AskthePizzaGuy was right all along. Give the man a medal.

Select: AskthePizzaGuy

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll decline the directorship run, Beskar, but thank you. I couldn't get support anyway.

Select: Proletariat

"Working actively to overthrow the United States". I believe Fatlington, New Jersey is part of the United States. CountArach was NOT a pro-town role.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I for one am very interested in finding out what this kunai killer (or not) guy is up to.

Select:slashandburn

[Double A]

So I think I figured out Kunai Guy:

He wins the game once every single hat in Fatlington has been burned.

Uh anyway, Red = Bad, and that's a pretty good reason to trust ATPG for weeding CA out. My guess is that the Reds are like Traitors.

[Chaotix]

So I think I figured out Kunai Guy:

He wins the game once every single hat in Fatlington has been burned.

Uh anyway, Red = Bad, and that's a pretty good reason to trust ATPG for weeding CA out. My guess is that the Reds are like Traitors.

Yes, Red = Bad for sure, but McCarthyists/CIA does not necessarily mean good. If I recall, they actually did more damage than help to the U.S. in history.

I believe ATPG's intentions for now at least are helping the town, and I will give him credit that he has succeeded in finding several mafiosi. However, I believe that an all-but-confirmed role, which we know is not strictly pro-town, should not be given the invulnerable position of Director in any case- it gives too much power to a player who could decide to switch allegiances as soon as the other side has more to offer. Again, I don't believe ATPG's going to do this at this stage in the game, but I don't want to take the chance. Even less so with Prole, who has supposedly already been working both sides.

For this reason, I'm going to Select: Kommodus.

[Proletariat]

Kommodus just died. There's at least one or two mafias that are becoming huge right now :embarassed:

Select: prole

[White_eyes:D]

The wire ripped into Kommodus’ neck, virtually decapitating him in a spray of blood.

When Fermanagh’s officers found Kommodus’ body a few minutes later, they noticed a queen of hearts had been tucked into the hatband of his fedora. On the back was written: ‘All mimsy were the Borogroves.’ Unless a headless, dead guy can be Director...I think you better think it over:laugh4:

[LittleGrizzly]

Kommodus is dead... bit late for invunerability...

Must congratulate ATPG on another mafia dead, im not saying forget his mistakes... but give the man credit he has got us at least 2 mafia by my calculations...

Unsure about this commie thing tbh...

hmm who is throwing thier hat into the director selection ring ?

ATPG and SlashandBurn ?

Ill choose a little later... must not forget to vote again as well this time...

Edit : :daisy: WE beat me to it.... don't worry about it... I have voted for dead guys a few times myself...

[Language please - GH]

[Diana Abnoba]

@ Chaotix
You selected a dead guy-try again.



Well it seems that we got another Luca, a wise guy, and a red; 2 real dangers and 1 possible danger, gone from the town threat. :thumbsup:

[White_eyes:D]

I hate that Kommodus is dead now:wall:

I guess giving away that family was like painting a target on his back:sweatdrop:

Now we must pick a new director and I don't trust Prole:inquisitive: (She is giving me scum vibes)

Could it be me?:juggle2:

I trust ATPG over her....sad, I know:shrug: but Select:ATPG

[Chaotix]

:laugh4:

That's what I get for reading the write-up about two hours before I decide to post.

Unselect, Select: slashandburn.

Point still stands.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Must congratulate ATPG on another mafia dead, im not saying forget his mistakes... but give the man credit he has got us at least 2 mafia by my calculations...

I appreciate that, but I was not the source on discovery1, just a spokesperson. That's why I have much approval for a candidate besides myself. I can't claim any credit for discovery1. And while I am congratulating others, thank you Kommodus for being proactive against GeneralHankerchief, and thanks to Reenk for double lynching him.


hmm who is throwing thier hat into the director selection ring ?

I urge any and all support for me to go to Proletariat. I decline to run this time, unless there is a serious swell of support for some reason.

[White_eyes:D]

Select:slashandburn Unselect:ATPG

You disappoint me, pizzaguy:shame:

You finally get my vote and you don't run???:whip:

I already express my distrust of Prole:inquisitive:

Don't ask me why....I just feel it in my gut:beam:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Select:slashandburn Unselect:ATPG

You disappoint me, pizzaguy:shame:

You finally get my vote and you don't run???:whip:

I already express my distrust of Prole:inquisitive:

Don't ask me why....I just feel it in my gut:beam:

I've been told by half the town that I'm untrustworthy... how can I run?

[White_eyes:D]

Do it, for all the people who rely on you to get there pizza:smash:
https://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff202/Dawnfox63/pizza.jpg

[Askthepizzaguy]

:shrug:

I'm amazed I got your support, White_Eyes. I'm baffled as to how. :laugh4:

very well... unselect, select: ATPG

[Beskar]

I for one am very interested in finding out what this kunai killer (or not) guy is up to.

Select:slashandburn

I am surprised he didn't attack me last night, he threatened me.

[ULC]

Go for it Pizza - what do you have to lose? No one is really running, and we do have to select a Director.

Select: ATPG

[Double A]

Yeah ATPG's running!

select: ATPG

[White_eyes:D]

Unselect:slashandburn Select:ATPG

Yeah, my sudden change in support for you...it had nothing to do with you doing good write-ups, other then Reenk...nope, not one bit:sweatdrop:

[seireikhaan]

Select: Slashandburn
Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[a completely inoffensive name]

Oh **** I thought today was a day period. ****.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Select: ACIN

[Double A]

Oh **** I thought today was a day period. ****.

It is.

[a completely inoffensive name]

It is.

No, it just turned into a day period. I thought night six was going to start tomorrow for some reason.

[Kagemusha]

I'm already being asked things like this via pm, I might as well address it here.

How about giving Myrddraal to rose mafia?With all due respect you are digging a hole to yourself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just as I suspected.

Rhyfelwyr has a criminal result, and I'm told that Moros does as well. Take your pick, ladies and gentlemen, but personally I find that all Rhyfelwyr has done all game long is lurk, and he voted for the purpose of defending discovery1 only.

Vote: Rhyfelwyr

The town doesn't need criminals or lurkers, and you're both.

[KukriKhan]

So the commie-thing WAS/is a viable faction, not just a distraction. Presumeably there are more of them around.

vote: Rhyfelwyr, being crimmie & lurker. Come out and make your case, Sir.

And I'll hold ATPG to his word on not running for Director;

select: Proletariat, though I appreciate the irony of granting immunity to someone with such a communistic name. :)

[TinCow]

Select: Proletariat

Reenk doesn't know what he's talking about. Prole is one of the town's best resources and she has already been publicly IDed. If we don't stick her in the Director spot, we're just going to have to use manpower to protect her every night. I urge everyone to vote for Prole to keep her alive.

The new result on CA also goes a long way to vindicating ATPG. I believe he is also trustworthy, but be aware that there are far fewer communists left alive than mafioso. An anti-mafia role is far more useful to us than an anti-communist role. If a choice has to be made between them, the anti-mafia role should be used.

(As an aside, I have house guests today and tomorrow. My posting level and response time to PMs will likely be retarded during that period.)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Huh, well I like to think that Atpg is trying to save us and all that, but I don't know, every time I trust him I seem to always end up surprised when he's scum..... Then again there isn't to many other choices.

Select: Atpg


(Also Seamus, when do I get my Role? Sorry to Ask, but People already want to know...... :laugh4::laugh4:)

[pevergreen]

HoS: TinCow

[Double A]

HoS?

[pevergreen]

Hand of Suspicion.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally:

Rhyfelwyr: 2 (Askthepizzaguy, Kukrikhan)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Shinseikhaan)


Director:

Askthepizzaguy: 6 (Beskar, White_eyes, Askthepizzaguy, YLC, Double A, CDF)
Proletariat: 3 (Proletariat, Kukrikhan, TinCow)
slashandburn: 3 (Sasaki Kojiro, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan)
ACIN: 1 (ACIN)

[scottishranger]

Hmm, well this sucks. Although, honestly, I am quite suprised this didnt happen earlier.

Go team!

[gibsonsg91921]

Select: Askthepizzaguy

[johnhughthom]

I'm not sure how much notice people take of dead FBI guys, but my advice would be to vote for Prole, Atpg would be a good second choice. Don't vote slashandburn.

[Beefy187]

Since my vote for slashandburn isn't counted, I'll revote.

Unvote, Vote: Proletariat

[shlin28]

You wanna kill the detective? Select: Prole

Vote later when I catch up with the thread.

[Beefy187]

You wanna kill the detective? Select: Prole

Vote later when I catch up with the thread.

I so meant select... :shame:

Unvote, Select: Proletariat

Good thing I came back on

[Joe Monks]

First there is a day six write up missing from the summary thread. I haven't read from roughly page 50 so I went to that thread to check it out.

Select:Prole

Vote later when suspects come out of the woodwork.

Joe

[johnhughthom]

I'm not sure how much notice people take of dead FBI guys, but my advice would be to vote for Prole, Atpg would be a good second choice. Don't vote slashandburn.

I meant select when I posted that by the way, don't want to confuse anybody... :oops:

[Moros]

Select: Slashandburn
Well we don't want two of the most trusted townies dead, plus I trust Reenk's judgement.

vote: abstain
Anybody has a lead on someone?

[Double A]

We don't know if they're actually townies though.

[woad&fangs]

Vote:Rhyfelwyr
In lieu of any leads, kill all lurkers.

Select: ACIN
I've heard people tell me not to select Prole
I've heard people tell me not to select Pizza
I've heard people tell me not to select Slash
I haven't heard anyone tell me not to select ACIN.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't select ACIN.

[woad&fangs]

Don't select ACIN.

~:eyeroll:

Ok, I haven't heard any non-Luca's tell me not to select ACIN:clown:

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: Rhyfelwyr criminal result and lurker, you must go. :smash:

Select: ATPG :yes:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Who said I was a Luca?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lynch Tally:

Rhyfelwyr: 4 (Askthepizzaguy, Kukrikhan, woad&fangs, Diana Abnoba)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Shinseikhaan)

Abstain: Moros



Director Tally:

Askthepizzaguy: 8 (Beskar, White_eyes, Askthepizzaguy, YLC, Double A, CDF, gibsonsg91921, Diana Abnoba
Proletariat: 6 (Proletariat, Kukrikhan, TinCow, Beefy187, shlin28, Joe Monks
slashandburn: 4 (Sasaki Kojiro, Chaotix, Shinseikhaan, Moros
ACIN: 2 (ACIN, woad&fangs)

[woad&fangs]

Wasn't it you that was the luca, or was that Disco?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Need to read rules more closely...... :sweatdrop:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wasn't it you that was the luca, or was that Disco?

Disco just got revealed as a Luca, yes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wasn't it you that was the luca, or was that Disco?

They were both Lucas.

[seireikhaan]

Who said I was a Luca?
You did. Here:

I was a Luca
:2thumbsup:

[Askthepizzaguy]

“I was thrilled to learn, I’ll admit, that the other choice in that lynch was a winner for the town. GeneralHankerchief was a mafia Luca – one of their special protection enforcers. His death clearly helps us achieve our mission.”

Of course, Seamus Fermanagh himself is the best source on GH being a Luca.

[GeneralHankerchief]

So that's who we're going to trust on this? Seamus? This game has already proved that Fatlington has been infiltrated at the highest levels by nefarious forces thanks to CountArach's extended postmortem reveal. Who's to say that it stopped there, hmm? I think we need to take some time to establish that Commissioner Fermanagh is legit.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So that's who we're going to trust on this? Seamus? This game has already proved that Fatlington has been infiltrated at the highest levels by nefarious forces thanks to CountArach's extended postmortem reveal. Who's to say that it stopped there, hmm? I think we need to take some time to establish that Commissioner Fermanagh is legit.

Pizzaguy takes out his chainsaw and begins dealing with the zombie threat, with a happy grin on his face

[slashandburn]

I am running for directorship, if anyone thinks that I'm mafia then they should ask ATPG or Reenk.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Select: ATPG

Vote: Abstain. I'll let things develop and place a vote later in the day just in case a double lynch opportunity comes up again.

[ricera10]

Select: abstain

Vote: Rhyfelwyr

It's not very fair to vote him, but he hasn't really done anything but lurk. How do we know he won't just be wogged later?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Vote: Moros


Apparently he has a Criminal result on him and has not been cooperating. (now I don't know if this is true or not, but I am going to believe it for now...... Diamond...... :sweatdrop: Why does it have to be made of Diamond? :laugh4:)


there we go.

[Iskander 3.1]

Ah well, I'm dead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Select: abstain

Vote: Rhyfelwyr

It's not very fair to vote him, but he hasn't really done anything but lurk. How do we know he won't just be wogged later?

he's been careful to post or vote every other round or so, usually with little or no explanation, so he won't be wogged. That coupled with a criminal result, and no one has come forward verifying that he's been involved in pro-town groups all game, tells me he's a scumbag that needs to die by the lynch.

[Moros]

We don't know if they're actually townies though.

Do you know ATPG is pro-town then? Yet you seemed overly enthousiast when he started running for director. That while ATPG has been accused of not being pro-town. I'm not saying he's not, but that doesn't mean he's the best choice for being director, as there's still the chance he's fooling us. Why not sacrifice some maffiosi from other families to gain trust for example. Either way I'm veryy curious to the results of AVSM. If he indeed appears to be maffiosi as well, I'd say ATPG record says alot. And I could live with him being a director then. Not now.


Vote: Moros


Apparently he has a Criminal result on him and has not been cooperating. (now I don't know if this is true or not, but I am going to believe it for now...... Diamond...... Why does it have to be made of Diamond? )
Yes, so they say I have a criminal result. And wether I have it or not, doesn't mean anything in Capo. And if people don't find anyone else to lynch then me, they can if they want to. But you'll lose someone who's been faithfully protecting people every night. Reenk and others can confirm this. So your claim of me not cooperating is at least untrue.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am going to be honest here, I have no Idea if that result is true, but Atpg has done a lot for the town so far, and I am going to have to trust his judgment for now. If you have people who can verify what you have been doing then they need to come forward and tell us. But for now you still may be Mob.

[Double A]

oh snap I haven't voted yet...

Vote: Rhyfelwyr

Because lurkers are bad and scum is too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Moros' whereabouts and activities have been disclosed, and a full investigation is being launched to determine the validity of his alibi. In the meantime, I request that Moros does not receive further votes. The level of his alibi seems strong to me and verifiable to a large extent.

[Moros]

I am going to be honest here, I have no Idea if that result is true, but Atpg has done a lot for the town so far, and I am going to have to trust his judgment for now. If you have people who can verify what you have been doing then they need to come forward and tell us. But for now you still may be Mob.
I am pm'ing with pizza. If you trust him as much as you do, well follow his judgement. Whatever it'll be. wierd that you do not trust someone as Reenk. Someone who has been great at organising protections and the likes. Who has given proof of being a townie and has never been questioned with a reason, not to be. If ATPG is doing such great work, I'm sure AVSM will be guilty and like I told Pizza before, that is when I will trust him more than just giving the benefit of the doubt.
It's just so wierd but especially dangerous that people are so enthousiast about Pizza. Cause if he's not what he says he is, we'll be in big problems. One of my rules playing mafia is to never really trust anyone. And if you have too, still be a critic and at least select the one least likely to be anti town and dangerous. In this case for example lets assume both candidates are mafia. In this case ATPG would be the bigger threat because of his loyal followers and experience. Also he is a guy able to pull of something like that. Probably that's why I don't like to trust him too much.

Either way act and think what you please. But it might just be the historian in me, taking everything with a pretty large chunk of salt. Or just call me careful.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm open to suggestions on further lynch candidates. Let's try to do another double lynch, I don't see why we shouldn't.

I'm reluctant to dig into my "guilty" pile just yet, as I believe these can be easily confused with vigilante townies.

[Beskar]

Iwierd that you do not trust someone as Reenk. Someone who has been great at organising protections and the likes

isn't that Pizza and not Reenk?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd nominate Centurion1 as a possible second lynch target, unless he can explain his guilty result and where he got it from and under what circumstances. In private, if necessary.

Can anyone verify his whereabouts during the night phase?


Also, massive Slice of Disappointment on Warmaster Horus and Cowhead418 for signing up, being active, and never posting. I'm nearly tempted to help that WOG process along by calling for Cow's head.

[Moros]

isn't that Pizza and not Reenk?
Reenk has been organising protection groups as well.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have it on very good authority that Warmaster Horus is innocent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have it on very good authority that Warmaster Horus is innocent.

Well that stinks for us, because we could use more innocent people. However, his blatant disregard for the game, and the fact that he was prodded to play the game a few rounds ago and still has not posted, does not smell innocent to me in the slightest.

No lurker victories.

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Rhyfelwyr
Select: ATPG

I won't be on much today, my shoulder is messed up and it hurts typing and stuff, it's nothing serious though.

[Haudegen]

Vote: Centurion1
Select: ATPG

Let´s attempt another double lynch.

[Crazed Rabbit]

It isn't the case. This game is not that easy. The kill method does not reveal my role or alignment. If you think it does, then you can join the club and I'll be sitting over here in a miserable little corner with progressively fewer people I can talk to who don't think I'm scum.

See, this is what I don't like. You mope about how nobody trusts you and we all think you're scum, but you're in the lead for the director position.

Considering which, select: Proletariat.

CR