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Visor
03-01-2021, 00:14
at some point ara pushing me is going to be wolfy

my guess is d5

Hally
03-01-2021, 00:14
Anyway yall I'm excited to get no cred and lynched in prelylo after I flip some wolves hattip
tbf logic is the most bussable slot itg by far so if he’s a wolf i fully expect his team to run a truck over him especially if they’re also in the poe

Hally
03-01-2021, 00:17
he doesn’t seem like he’s playing to survive but ymmv

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:17
at some point ara pushing me is going to be wolfy

my guess is d5

maybe.gif

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:18
Does this site do the whole antispew spew thing

The concepts and terms, really

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 00:19
at some point ara pushing me is going to be wolfy

my guess is d5

i thought she had a redcheck for about 3 minutes where i considered to claim it for her.

Then i figured out she cant be a seer.

your welcome wolves

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:20
i thought she had a redcheck for about 3 minutes where i considered to claim it for her.

Then i figured out she cant be a seer.

your welcome wolves

Tracker strikes again

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:21
I'm thinking donairs tonight

Visor
03-01-2021, 00:21
Does this site do the whole antispew spew thing

The concepts and terms, really

not really, but we havent played much ww here

though im sure monty knows the basics

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:22
not really, but we havent played much ww here

though im sure monty knows the basics

They used a word in a way that wasn't grammatically correct

Like, someone saying a word in English without knowing really how to speak the language

Awkward

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:32
One of my fav entrapments of late was when I baited para into pushing me in the desperado game.

Shit was great

Visor
03-01-2021, 00:34
One of my fav entrapments of late was when I baited para into pushing me in the desperado game.

Shit was great

if they made better nightkills that game they had more of a chance i think

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 00:36
Montmorency how’d you go from wanting to dome bop to wanting to dome manti?

I never asked for a Tdome on CL, only for his death. But here's my reasoning now:

1. At least one of CL-Maple MUST be scum (unless you wanna out yourself).
2. I hate Maple's tone and posting and associatives more than CL's.
3. If both are somehow town, and I die over one, better to spare CL because his contributions would be more valuable.
4. There aren't enough townies to spread over multiple wagons.
4.a. There's no way to turn D3 into Maple vs. CL.

Therefore, I'll Tdome Maple for the good of all.

For emphasis:

Unvote: Maple
Vote: Maple

(conveniently, "Unvote:" contains "vote:" so votes and unvotes are equally locatable with Ctrl-F)


re:monte

its not just not calling dya a wolf ever. It's not really saying anything about their alignment other than "if villa then XYZ, if wolf then XYZ"

On day 1 they had +/- points for both Csargo and rask but for dya it was just this "GH said its like amy but lesser"

Here's more of what I had to say about dya:

(713)

Anyway, I've noticed that both here and in Visor's Small Game, dyachei evenly spread his posts through the day, each a sentence or two in length. Is this nAI style, or is it a tell that dyachei has a very similar approach (post structure and frequency) to this game as he did to his other, scum, game here? I have no opinion on the content as such.

(1121, before I tied Csargo with dyachei)

Not a spicy enough D1. 100 posts in 2.5 hours at EOD? Something's coming, I know it, or Dyach prob town.

Unless his team has decided to cut him loose without a fight, which...

(1551, early D2)

if Dya flips town - ~50/50 IMO -

I couldn't get around to un-nulling dyachei, so I let the rest of the game develop for me; it's not like I felt the need to create distance between myself and dya after all. Only mafia need to force an opinion into the record. Mechanically, I would say it was the right choice. I just wish GH had let the tie stand.


I will reiterate

Monty softing vigi, claiming not that, but continuing to rep a PR is some wolfy ass shit.

I understand yall "I shall not talk about PRs :)"ing but yall

He's a wolf.


His subsequent responses to me implied a PR rep

I have no idea what you're talking about. Sounds like you're fishing. :nod:


Anyway yall I'm excited to get no cred and lynched in prelylo after I flip some wolves hattip

I truly don't understand how anyone could not kill this with fire.

Hally
03-01-2021, 00:43
I couldn't get around to un-nulling dyachei, so I let the rest of the game develop for me; it's not like I felt the need to create distance between myself and dya after all. Only mafia need to force an opinion into the record. Mechanically, I would say it was the right choice. I just wish GH had let the tie stand.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/55ead426f3c6493b8729f8a23c298d9a/tumblr_mryndaA7sf1rdutw3o1_400.gif

Hally
03-01-2021, 00:45
monty none of those posts you quoted wrt dya make you look better

why didn’t you wolf read them if you thought they were posting the same as the other game where they were wolfing? idgi

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:46
I am never, ever, ever, ever dying here.

dab

Maple
03-01-2021, 00:47
Wolves hate me cause in theory I'm an ez mislynch but in practice I'm basically invincible lol

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 00:50
monty none of those posts you quoted wrt dya make you look better

why didn’t you wolf read them if you thought they were posting the same as the other game where they were wolfing? idgi

:inquisitive:


Anyway, I've noticed that both here and in Visor's Small Game, dyachei evenly spread his posts through the day, each a sentence or two in length. Is this nAI style, or is it a tell that dyachei has a very similar approach (post structure and frequency) to this game as he did to his other, scum, game here? I have no opinion on the content as such.

When you post like this you remind me of 713



I am never, ever, ever, ever dying here.

dab


Wolves hate me cause in theory I'm an ez mislynch but in practice I'm basically invincible lol
I've known Pizzaman, and you're no Pizzaman.

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 00:52
Place your bets!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOgtj00Rp8s

VS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b18DjXWyWuc

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 00:53
So anyway I've been playing some chess

My openings have been aight but I keep blundering pieces in the midgame, I just don't have the attention span for that shit

My endgames are fire tho, the key is to have opponents who don't know how to checkmate while understanding the basics

what you think i can pay attention for longer than a 5 min game usually?

Hally
03-01-2021, 00:56
:inquisitive:



When you post like this you remind me of 713





I've known Pizzaman, and you're no Pizzaman.
that doesn’t really help. you can have no opinion on the content but if stylistically dya felt the same to you as their wolf game presumably that should be enough to put them below null since its not like they had any content D1 anyway

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 00:57
the secret is to learn openings where you know you can sort of throw pieces at your opponent and make attacking chances early and just keep the pressure on

in terms of engagement, isn't necessarily the soundest chess lol

Hally
03-01-2021, 00:59
manti > monty

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:00
manti > monty
as in, manti is actually coming off better to me in the exchange than monty is

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 01:02
as in, manti is actually coming off better to me in the exchange than monty is

the HOTTEST of takes

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 01:03
that doesn’t really help. you can have no opinion on the content but if stylistically dya felt the same to you as their wolf game presumably that should be enough to put them below null since its not like they had any content D1 anyway

If you recall the reads list of mine that CL reposted and you commented on, I indeed put dya on the bad side of null.

From here on I'll wait for the main arrivals. Meanwhile, address this:


So - what is your theory here? That, of seven Csargo voters on D1, I was the only scum? The only mafia trying to save their partner?

And not only that, but that the player who tied Csargo with dyachei with daylight to spare is clearly scum, but NOT the player who broke the tie (CL), NOR the player who overvoted to keep Csargo in the lead?

And not only that, but that the next likeliest candidates, such that of these three at least two are almost certainly scum, are Cuth and Dolbster/Logic.

What is your theory here? That while dyachei was the leading wagon she froze up, Cuth and Dolbster potatoed on a non-viable counterwagon, I stepped up to tie Csargo with my partner, and from there on three townies graciously happened to finish the job for us?

And then, the following day, that most sussedpect Monty never wavered from accepting partner dya as the necessary ouster, but those townies from alongside him on the Csargo wagon pointed their votes anywhere and everywhere but dyachei the scumbag for most (or all) of the day?

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:03
what you think i can pay attention for longer than a 5 min game usually?

I've been playing 15 | 10 but end up with like 10+ banked lol

I should prob switch to 10 | 0

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:04
the HOTTEST of takes
why are you like this

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:08
Shadowhydra game was honestly hilarious

Double lylo and the wolves both committed honourable seppuku by trying to tdom me in f5 f3 while I spent the the time catting and tbagging

This is why I play this game

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:08
If you recall the reads list of mine that CL reposted and you commented on, I indeed put dya on the bad side of null.

From here on I'll wait for the main arrivals. Meanwhile, address this:
i read people on their posts too, not just their votes. and i like bop and manti’s posts more than yours, cuth’s and logic’s :shrug:

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:09
Someone ask me why I keep on bringing up old games where I memed on wolves

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:11
i also have never said i’m convinced bop and manti are villagers

manti is upper poe for me and bop is my “villagery but if there’s a deep wolf it’s probably them” pick. so you’re arguing with me about a position i don’t actually hold

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:13
Someone ask me why I keep on bringing up old games where I memed on wolves
oh manti, wise and great master of ww, what in the cosmos compels you to revel in previous escapades in which you “memed” on lycanthropes?

Visor
03-01-2021, 01:14
Shadowhydra game was honestly hilarious

Double lylo and the wolves both committed honourable seppuku by trying to tdom me in f5 f3 while I spent the the time catting and tbagging

This is why I play this game

i read over that a while back and i still don't understand why knights voted you in f5

it seemed like he had to vote sunbae there?

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:14
oh manti, wise and great master of ww, what in the cosmos compels you to revel in previous escapades in which you “memed” on lycanthropes?

Cause I'm clean as fuck

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:17
i read over that a while back and i still don't understand why knights voted you in f5

it seemed like he had to vote sunbae there?

Was a tough spot cause I'm pretty sure Cuth always votes correctly regardless of if he went on me or sunbae

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 01:17
everyone from this post forward should never cast doubt on manti and if we ever reach lylo we are all in silent agreement to immeadiately vote him as soon as the day starts and say nothing more.

this post will never be spoken about from here on forward.

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:22
everyone from this post forward should never cast doubt on manti and if we ever reach lylo we are all in silent agreement to immeadiately vote him as soon as the day starts and say nothing more.

this post will never be spoken about from here on forward.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/017447687faf931e02b7529a7645c5c5/tenor.gif

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 01:22
why are you like this

do you think i want to be

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:35
@Arapocalypse (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=101721)

Your characterization of how you think im playing upsets me.
My apologies, that was not the intention!

Sorry, I don't really know what to say here; want to talk about it? Or talk about something else?

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:37
i read over that a while back and i still don't understand why knights voted you in f5

it seemed like he had to vote sunbae there?
I think he thought he could convince the other person, maybe?

Or that he didn't think Sunbae would create the sort of thread environment that led to that, where Sunbae just hard-towned it up and solved the game there; difficult to counter!!

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:42
Also after careful deliberation, I've decided that Visor is probably just town, which is past! GeneralHankerchief's fault!!!

(I reserve the right to tinfoil, however!)

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:44
Also after careful deliberation, I've decided that Visor is probably just town, which is past! GeneralHankerchief's fault!!!

(I reserve the right to tinfoil, however!)
what changed?

Visor
03-01-2021, 01:44
Also after careful deliberation, I've decided that Visor is probably just town, which is past! GeneralHankerchief's fault!!!

(I reserve the right to tinfoil, however!)

uh whats changed?

i dont think ive done anything different since d1 when you began pushing me

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:47
If I'm a wolf I'm most likely planning to take this to an f3

But lbr yall, would I really do that after my string of dogshit games recently? I thought not
You would totally do that, just saying!!!!! :p

For what it's worth my read on today sums up to I think you've been townier, and there are a few trains of thought I don't think you'd necessarily take as mafia here? But I'd still vote you in a heartbeat* in LYLO!!!

(*May be exaggerated slightly for dramatic purposes!)

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:49
uh whats changed?

i dont think ive done anything different since d1 when you began pushing me

at some point ara pushing me is going to be wolfy

my guess is d5
wowee

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:50
definitely not grandiose

id say neither but if i had to pick one id say it would lean performative i guess
Slightly performative, maybe?

But in general, I've found he's generally fairly down to earth with a fairly realistic human mindset of approaching the game that can often be a bit playful where he doesn't take things overly seriously but is, dare I say it, quite logical in playstyle!!!!

That may be relative to the sorts of personalities that I am more accustomed to in mafia, but... yeah!

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:50
(that’s like 20% serious)

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:51
dont yall love the d3s where its just a bunch of people hanging out in thread waiting for people to die

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:52
at some point ara pushing me is going to be wolfy

my guess is d5
I rescind entirely, we're back on the Visor suspicion wagon!!!!!!!!!!!!

:smg:

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:52
lol

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:53
dont yall love the d3s where its just a bunch of people hanging out in thread waiting for people to die
it is kind of a weird phase in that way

probably because it’s like the same five people posting

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:54
what you think i can pay attention for longer than a 5 min game usually?
Wait what?

You play against Voxx and get close to winning half the time!!!!!

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:55
it is kind of a weird phase in that way

probably because it’s like the same five people posting

is it our faults for posting so much? no, its the slankers

Maple
03-01-2021, 01:55
Wait what?

You play against Voxx and get close to winning half the time!!!!!

savage

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:57
i’m just waiting for logic or cuth to do something but i feel like i’m gonna be waiting a while

Hally
03-01-2021, 01:58
also wish manasi would do more but i don’t think that’s happening either :juggle:

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 01:59
Also after careful deliberation, I've decided that Visor is probably just town, which is past! @GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104)'s fault!!!

(I reserve the right to tinfoil, however!)
Please note the bolded in my post, regarding what's changed!!!!!

Short version is various things that I considered over dinner; a large part of it is that there are quite a few competent players alive and the fact that basically none of them are concerned about him is fairly notable!! Also, various stuff regarding GH theory/evaluation overall/endgame/threadstate thoughts!!

So no it wasn't anything Visor/anyone else did; also I'm not rehashing the thought process, especially when I feel like it's probably a waste of time to write out!

Visor
03-01-2021, 01:59
cuth is in reply mode for some reason

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 02:03
savage
No, it really isn't; have you seen Voxx play? I've never seen him lose a game of chess before, besides once or twice when he accidentally disconnected!!!

I mean, his account literally got flagged because he never lost!!

(Which is to say, Cuth is pretty good at chess from what I've seen!)

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 02:06
I can see it being totally possible that visor is a wolf

I am never giving that serious thought when there are players in the game not doing anything.

I would feel less inclined to feel this way if he were not on dya day 1.

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 02:18
On another note, finally got through the Dolby ISO!!! On one hand, I still feel like Dolby's entrance and overall town thoughts stuff was solid, but on the other he did drop off later in the day, and the dya stuff in their ISO was underwhelming!! Also noting however that there was similar lack of stuff regarding Ampharos, who were both around the same level on day 1!!

I don't think there's anything I could say that hasn't been said about Logic, would be fine with him dying!!!!

Well more than fine at this point, considering the few people that are left!!

Also I just realized that there was an easy way to get postcounts of people, but it's too late for the past few days now, bluh!!!

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 02:40
Wait what?

You play against Voxx and get close to winning half the time!!!!!

if by get "close to winning" you mean "keep the game vaguely equal into midgame" then yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795379600783310872/798109950760714280/Bildschirmfoto_2021-01-11_00-43-16_1.png

Maple
03-01-2021, 02:43
What's his elo

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 02:45
cuth is in reply mode for some reason

my originality is at present only matched by my presence of mind

Visor
03-01-2021, 02:45
@essoa

where are you

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 02:46
What's his elo

over 2000

Visor
03-01-2021, 02:46
Esooa

Maple
03-01-2021, 02:49
could I take him with queen odds

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 02:49
Close enough, Cuth!!! :P

Vote: Logic

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 02:58
could I take him with queen odds

doubtful but i haven't played you

Maple
03-01-2021, 02:59
understandable

Maple
03-01-2021, 03:00
chesscom says 624 but my rating hasnt stabilized yet

Maple
03-01-2021, 03:02
is a membership worth it for the puzzles and engine or is there a better deal somewhere

Visor
03-01-2021, 03:04
is a membership worth it for the puzzles and engine or is there a better deal somewhere

i think lichess is generally considered to be better

Maple
03-01-2021, 03:06
i think lichess is generally considered to be better

do they have a fun puzzle mode

i like the puzzles

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 03:24
So I got into Stardew Valley recently and it's pretty relaxing/chill/addicting; I do understand now what the hype of it is about!!

Still associate it strongly with Manti focusing intensely off to the side in video mafia for several moments into his own formal, saying "sorry - i was playing stardew valley", then looking towards the camera and firing off a stream of ??? words, which may or may not include fun/spicy takes in them!!!

Zack
03-01-2021, 03:36
Official Tally as of #2327

2 Logic (Visor, Arapocalypse)
2 Maple (Esooa, Montmorency)
2 Montmorency (Maple, ColonelLubriderm)

1 Cuthillius (Hally)

Not Voting: Cuthillius, Ephemeral, Logic, Manasi

thunderously calm

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 04:19
do they have a fun puzzle mode

i like the puzzles

they have unlimited puzzles and also the equivalent of puzzle rush

it's pretty new so you can't play against another human but it's same idea and it's actually really good for training tactical understanding

lichess is like a slightly less developed chess.com in terms of alternate modes/whatever with all of the premium features for free

i also prefer the ui

Cuthillius
03-01-2021, 04:20
vote: logic

i do not have warm fuzzy feelings in my stomach about esooa

i'mma be honest

Maple
03-01-2021, 04:33
they have unlimited puzzles and also the equivalent of puzzle rush

it's pretty new so you can't play against another human but it's same idea and it's actually really good for training tactical understanding

lichess is like a slightly less developed chess.com in terms of alternate modes/whatever with all of the premium features for free

i also prefer the ui

ill cehck it out

Visor
03-01-2021, 04:49
if theres a busser its esooa i think

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 05:10
My apologies, that was not the intention!

Sorry, I don't really know what to say here; want to talk about it? Or talk about something else?

It might be a me problem, don’t worry about it, it’s all good

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 05:13
Mason/poison/peek

Maple/logic/cuth

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:19
Make it competitive and tell me why we don't end on monty for a reason other than "logic deserves to die more"

feels like monty is an easy push for saying weird things but I find a lot of what hes saying to be genuine and not really wolf motivated

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:20
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure Logic's referenced the GH read as both alignments before? So the reference itself is not something I would consider suspicious in and of itself, though if there are specifics to it, then... -shrug-

Something something team game associations!!

I should refresh on that Dolby read I guess, don't remember why!!!

yeah my response to his GH posts was just, "okay"

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:21
i mean, fair enough and good on you for having the correct read there. i’m just not really sure what the point of you harping on this is. gh is dead and he’s not coming back

you really don't see the point Ara is making, that wolves want them to be tied so GH gets mislimmed?

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:23
also it felt that blatant to me and they were hard defending mafia partners (interspersed with a bit of doubt thrown in occasionally to muddy the waters again)

but it was basically, token doubt to yep lock town

repeating pattern

regardless again, he's dead. i dont think it was a necessarily a bad read to make (though it was wrong) given his recent games but it is what it is. there were areas i coulve got there on him but didnt and it doesnt matter anymore cause hes dead

same to visor, don't get why he doesn't understand the point Ara is making

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:24
Csargo wagon has been discussed already, feel least good about Montmorency, and Maple, with a side dish covered in aluminum of ColonelLubriderm!!! Probably will get around to talking about Maple today!

The Raskolnikov wagon could actually be somewhat interesting? Were either of Cuth/Dolby around at EoD 1? Might dig that up if no one remembers!! Wagonomics in general I guess... though I don't think much has changed since EoD 2, also is tricky because of presences/absences at EoD 1!!

Esooa wagon was exactly w/v, don't have much to say on that; dya was also not present at EoD!!!

notable that neither night kill was on Dya here imo

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:25
1. Visor
2. Montmorency
3. Cuthillius
4. Ampharos
5. Sunbae
6. GeneralHankerchief
7. Hally
8. Csargo
9. Arapocalypse
10. Esooa
11. Dolby (Logic)
12. pzelda
13. Manasi
14. ColonelLubriderm
15. dyachei
16. Maple
17. Ephemeral

Feels like far fewer players are alive than there actually are.

11/17 alive,

8 vs 3

PR
PR
Any
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT


PR
PR
Goon (?)

So 6/5 split reads

hally
eph
ara
esooa
manasi

vs

visor
monty
cuth
logic
bop

is my current overall feelz
not sure how much I agree with Bop on the bottom; is him asking for death and expressing dislike of stuff how he has something he'd do as wolf?

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:25
Hard claiming not a resurrectionist, no idea why the point about GH being dead already is trying to be emphasized here!!!

lmao Ara is great

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:33
re:monte

its not just not calling dya a wolf ever. It's not really saying anything about their alignment other than "if villa then XYZ, if wolf then XYZ"

On day 1 they had +/- points for both Csargo and rask but for dya it was just this "GH said its like amy but lesser"

haven't really gone through Monteys ISO myself though so I suppose I'll look at this regarding him. Still, the amount of votes he got for not really a great reason makes me apprehensive regardless

this is probably very much not unaffected by me being annoyed I can ask Manti his read on me day 2 multiple times (including both day 2 and day 3) then never be answered and it's under no real consideration iirc

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:37
his posts felt like “haha i’m just a villager”

lmao

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:37
My BOY Spacecamp Logic was looking to take home an EMMY

meh

the first post is kinda performative but I agreed with him that the way you were questioning it was weird

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:40
Does this site do the whole antispew spew thing

The concepts and terms, really

this site is basically MU in this game considering the playerlist but maybe that's just me having never played here before

Esooa
03-01-2021, 05:49
@essoa

where are you

I work 13 hour shifts saturday/sunday and have been very low energy/sleepy

Maple
03-01-2021, 05:49
haven't really gone through Monteys ISO myself though so I suppose I'll look at this regarding him. Still, the amount of votes he got for not really a great reason makes me apprehensive regardless

this is probably very much not unaffected by me being annoyed I can ask Manti his read on me day 2 multiple times (including both day 2 and day 3) then never be answered and it's under no real consideration iirc

I think it's because no one cares lol

Maple
03-01-2021, 05:53
whats funny is that i posted a detailed read here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5vLDyfb4m8) but you didnt even comment on it lol

Esooa
03-01-2021, 06:40
Dolby ISO

"GH's focus on that and straight up going to say that me and Esooa probably aren't teammed feels way to much like the Wazza and TL tunnels in Ice Cream for me to be comfortable with that"

pretty bad post

"ok, this was something that I forgot about his D1. I just remember the TES/TL tunnel and screaming at Ace to shield TL and pressure GH over it

Monty not being noticeably whack in his first post is probably good in and of itself. Last time I saw him as maf he was visibly furry, and this was a multiball game where he could make himself good better by solving for his opponents."

"Monty just pointing to a scrum and saying there's scum in it is normal for him. Move along citizens"

I don't really know how Dolby plays as wolf so I'd like to know if people think he's the kinda player that would defend a scum partner like this

"This is bad

1. Continues to not explain Monty read. Monty's posts certainly weren't disasterous. Dude isn't even whack in lowercase at this point"

(responding to Capage)

This feels more like w/w to me

"Eh

Vote: pzelda

Maybe an isolated bad tunnel but I don’t like what I’m seeing here."

Don't like this vote

"I'm astounded that Ara is reading Monty as twtbaw, and that people are heavily scumreading him for his entrance. The outcome itself is probably fine in an environment where he's being either ignored or mildly sus but it's a big thonk

Monty's hard post is around the fluff level I expect it to be. Think it's just typical him. Isn't howling. He's fine"

He mentions Monty a lot but just reads him as "he's fine"

"Amp's Dya vote is meh. Don't think they mentioned them before the vote?

Dya is here and I should ISO the slot since this is the first Dya post I really remember seeing (833), but they are definetely less impactful than in Ice Cream team maf D2"

Dislike the tonal differences here; seems the Ampharos point is more scum leaning tonally while kinda just acknowledging Dya

Right, so my experience with Monty has basically been the games on CFC, and let's take Star Trek and the Franklin ship cannibal game that I was hosting as examples of his town play.

In both games he had absolutely awful takes. I remember the Star Trek game better, but to outline, he pretty much voted with who maf wanted everyday. This did catch him some heat but people were able to find him as town because despite having the objectively worst vote record of a living player at that point he had a followable process and his method was alright. People did not find him in Franklin, but from what I remember of what I thought then, I thought his process was alright.

Compare that to Princes, where he was maf, I thought that he was maf instantly. This is kinda astounding because this was multiball and he could augment his fake reads with legitimate solving for the other team, but he was off instantly. Reads didn't seem to have a followable process until he somewhat adapted in the later game, was quite clearly pushing an agenda in his posts from D2, and everything he said was WHACK with capital letters. He also had a clear hard time getting into the thread state early game. I think that the way he's adapted "early game" this game has been alright and par for the course on how he normally does things, and I think a few of the points that I've seen from people are invalid and really shouldn't have been brought up normally (pzelda coming to mind of course)

I think when he expands his read on Monty it's good though; Monty definitely fits in the archetype of "someone who is naturally scum read" from what I can tell, and his thought processes this game are followable

"I am getting different vibes from GH dropping Csargo into the POE than GH doing the same to beeboy in the team game, which is pretty notable given that these are pretty similar contexts."

Agree with this

Another Dolby post about Monty

Dolby's scum read on Capage is pretty bad

Reading Dolby's EoD I'm agreeing with who ever said that Dolby had to find a CW because he town read Csargo and didn't want to vote Dya. I felt really off about his Raskol vote at the time and it's still pretty bad

Basically everything from Dolby

Decently scummy, focuses on Monty a weird amount. Had a few takes I agreed with (Monty when he explained, GH thing about beeboy) but in general they felt off (Pzelda read, read on me, SoD read on GH, reads on amph/Dya, etc) and had a bad EoD

Esooa
03-01-2021, 06:42
I wanna ISO Dya/Manti but my eye lids are drooping

I'll be back tomorrow

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 08:41
Ok, GH and Bop kinda look bad from the eod, but reading it as a whole, my hottake on whole mafia team would be: Visor, Monty, Maple, Dya.
I still haves slight doubts about rask and dolby, but the former has solid sod2 and the latter's posts look better on the reread. Monty's posts on the other hand...and his votes on Rask and Csargo were opportunistic.

Pzelda iso has lots f eod1 analysis. Spicy one is how he points out visor vote is at a time where it’s non threatening to dya

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 08:44
Ok, I'm starting reading here. Colonel on Csargo looks like possible wolf positioning, but let's overlook that. If I recall it correctly, Bop suspected Csargo years before voting him.
So, other wagons and non-voters. I think dya was active enough to vote at this point. I think her focus on defensing herself is a bad look and still might be the best lunch today. I would expect 1 or 2 wolves in throwaway votes too.
Rask being town or scum is important here. Town rask makes dya's wagon very likely pure. That would mean the other 1-2 wolves are in Dolby, Monty, Visor. All of this fits with my previous reads btw.
Not much else to take from this.


actaully, Visor made this vote, when Dya had a single vote. So, It shouldn't be used for not w/w reads.


I feel like this part is somehow wolfy from Maple.


I don't find the wording of this post and how it's connected with slank cover towny at all.


Ok, here Esooa put dya in the lead. That makes me feel good (esp. because i find it harder and harder to see dya as town again).

Above is a bunch of multi quotes I decided to not use but don’t know how to clear so ima just spoil them to get rid of them

Visor
03-01-2021, 09:41
Pzelda iso has lots f eod1 analysis. Spicy one is how he points out visor vote is at a time where it’s non threatening to dya

this is dumb and you know it

especially because i didn't move from the vote and i was AT eod

Arapocalypse
03-01-2021, 09:44
Mason/poison/peek

Maple/logic/cuth
Mason Cuth, poison Logic, peek Maple!!!

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 11:02
mornin

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 11:12
if theres a busser its esooa i think

why's that

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 11:21
vote: cuthilius

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 11:24
Mason Cuth, poison Logic, peek Maple!!!

Talk to me about cuth?

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 11:28
this is dumb and you know it

especially because i didn't move from the vote and i was AT eod

ye this is correct

nl could've easily switched to raskol there if he wanted to

Visor
03-01-2021, 11:53
why's that

raskol v
im v
ephemeral
esooa
manasi

you voted third iirc when you probably didnt have to vote there at all and make it a wagon

esooa voting shrug, im sure shed bus

mansai could def bus there and has in the past but idk, if her plan is to not pay attention bussing kinda stinks there unless she is a strong pr

idk!

i dont necessarily think esooa is a wolf, but out of the three id order eph>manasi>esooa

Visor
03-01-2021, 11:55
wheres your head at eph

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 12:05
wheres your head at eph

cuth posts leave something to be desired(heh heh heh)

logic exists, but in past tense so maybe just a wolf throwing in the towel? idk

monty feels like bait, I don't have a strong case to make here either way so /shrug, but the first word that comes to mind is definitely "bait"

I miss manasi

manti's doing stuff and I'm curious to see where it leads him, in a vacuum i still think his posts are more into his v range rather than w range but it's far from a lock, him choosing to dome monty doesn't particularly excite me atm and the stuff with dya is still there and it's pretty meh

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 12:11
bop is still fine imo

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 12:15
bop is still fine imo

or, well

I think him choosing the "look at zelda's analysis saying nl bussed!" line is pretty bad considering the basis of the narrative is blatantly flawed

but other than that I think he's kinda solid so

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 13:50
or, well

I think him choosing the "look at zelda's analysis saying nl bussed!" line is pretty bad considering the basis of the narrative is blatantly flawed

but other than that I think he's kinda solid so

Stop being dramatic

Visor
03-01-2021, 13:52
i can see wolf manasi just sponging ppl so she doesnt have to think and hoping we carry her i guess

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 13:52
ye this is correct

nl could've easily switched to raskol there if he wanted to

Why do you think !wNL would switch off of Dya?

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 13:56
I mean, if logic doesn’t show up we’re always voting them right?

Just making sure everyone is in the same headspace

Visor
03-01-2021, 14:01
I mean, if logic doesn’t show up we’re always voting them right?

Just making sure everyone is in the same headspace

yes

@ bop

i couldve also just... voted raskol at that eod? if w/w with dya. i did push that slot earlier?

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 14:12
yes

@ bop

i couldve also just... voted raskol at that eod? if w/w with dya. i did push that slot earlier?

Why would you ever take your foot off dya when doing so likely just puts heat on you since dya is going to go regardless and possibly even poisoned overnight.

I don’t subscribe to the theory that you have to save dya there. Sometimes you could sure, but sometimes you just either decide to stay because they’re going down anyway or you stay to roll the dice because if they don’t go down and you are on them that’s good looks for later.


Also in the mash that just ended on pog you literally bussed dya day 1 ove4 a villa when there were v/w wagons and they were a vig.

So I don’t buy the line that you “have” to save dya there and you feeding that to me is problematic to say the least.

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 14:21
That’s all really just wheel spinning because there are 2-3 people I’d lunch before considering. Maybe even 5 depending on the future

Visor
03-01-2021, 14:37
Why would you ever take your foot off dya when doing so likely just puts heat on you since dya is going to go regardless and possibly even poisoned overnight.

I don’t subscribe to the theory that you have to save dya there. Sometimes you could sure, but sometimes you just either decide to stay because they’re going down anyway or you stay to roll the dice because if they don’t go down and you are on them that’s good looks for later.


Also in the mash that just ended on pog you literally bussed dya day 1 ove4 a villa when there were v/w wagons and they were a vig.

So I don’t buy the line that you “have” to save dya there and you feeding that to me is problematic to say the least.

I guess since you weren't in there D1 you don't have the full picture but I bussed dya only a) after Ladd starting pushing extremely hard for them

B) when the wagon got steam

And then after that flurry I dropped off and pushed creature as a counter, and then at EOD when the vote counter was roughly 8:2 with dya in the lead I switched back.

I only pushed dya after they were dead in the water from the other villas pushing them

Contrast that to this game in which the only other person pushing dya is sunbae and I could just ignore the push if I wanted to, it's entirely possible dya doesn't become a wagon if I don't push it that day

Visor
03-01-2021, 14:38
I was a core part of the dya push this game

I was not in the mash, I had nothing to do with dya getting heat.

See the difference?

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 15:49
I guess since you weren't in there D1 you don't have the full picture but I bussed dya only a) after Ladd starting pushing extremely hard for them

B) when the wagon got steam

And then after that flurry I dropped off and pushed creature as a counter, and then at EOD when the vote counter was roughly 8:2 with dya in the lead I switched back.

I only pushed dya after they were dead in the water from the other villas pushing them

Contrast that to this game in which the only other person pushing dya is sunbae and I could just ignore the push if I wanted to, it's entirely possible dya doesn't become a wagon if I don't push it that day

no he wasn't?

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 15:54
Why do you think !wNL would switch off of Dya?

because he could easily do it at almost no cost? he had the perfect setup to do it with his rask push from earlier that day, if he eventually got heat for it later itg it would've been easy to argue himself out of it as a result

This does get a bit weaker given that GH was telegraphing that he would vote to save dya ig, and from that point if nl had even only one other wolf who'd do the same thing then I suppose he could just chill on the dya wagon and be pretty safe that they wouldn't go over in that spot

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 15:56
I mean, if logic doesn’t show up we’re always voting them right?

Just making sure everyone is in the same headspace

most likely yes

Maple
03-01-2021, 16:19
Not one reaction smh

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 16:36
Maple

where did montecorenot role soft?
you said they claimed but I missed that.

Maple
03-01-2021, 17:01
Maple

where did montecorenot role soft?
you said they claimed but I missed that.

If you check my iso and look for "hardclaim" you'll find it

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:16
If you check my iso and look for "hardclaim" you'll find it

the iso only goes back 100 posts for me.

now i have to do real work to find it

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:17
Is that a hardclaim?

got it

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:21
did you miss where he said its not a claim?

Maple
03-01-2021, 17:27
did you miss where he said its not a claim?

No, continue reading.

Esooa
03-01-2021, 17:28
raskol v
im v
ephemeral
esooa
manasi

you voted third iirc when you probably didnt have to vote there at all and make it a wagon

esooa voting shrug, im sure shed bus

mansai could def bus there and has in the past but idk, if her plan is to not pay attention bussing kinda stinks there unless she is a strong pr

idk!

i dont necessarily think esooa is a wolf, but out of the three id order eph>manasi>esooa

why are you sure I'd bus

Maple
03-01-2021, 17:42
thinking about crepes

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:47
I dont get this claim thing and im annoyed I wasted 20 minutes on it.

I just assumed he's talking about shot not as a literal shot but as more of a turn of phrase. Like, for example, If wolves don't kill me tonight i'm taking my shot taking out cuth tomorrow meaning that i'm not going to vig him but going to push him.

Maybe i'm missing something or maybe it's because others have played with him.

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:51
though if they do hardclaim vigi at any point the real vigi should shoot them and never counter.

I would probably shoot them regardless if they hardclaim or not.

Maple
03-01-2021, 17:54
The basis of that portion of my case is that his responses to me pushing a claim was dodgy/evasive in a way that opened the door to a later claim and seemed to be there with the intent of self preservation.

That the way they handled that situation was generally wolfy.

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:55
Sign ups for Zelda mash going up today on MU.

you should sign up.

I promise no 6 hour ITAs.

Maple
03-01-2021, 17:56
I'll see how it fits into my schedule

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 17:57
Sign ups for Zelda mash going up today on MU.

you should sign up.

I promise no 6 hour ITAs.

it starts the 22nd iirc

Maple
03-01-2021, 18:01
I wonder what logic is up to

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 18:03
I wonder what logic is up to

i hope he posts nothing then at 7:59 does the "this is a call out post" meme.

regardless of his alignment

Maple
03-01-2021, 20:00
I bought some new cake decorating tools

Theyre suppose to arrive in the mail today

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 21:23
The basis of that portion of my case is that his responses to me pushing a claim was dodgy/evasive in a way that opened the door to a later claim and seemed to be there with the intent of self preservation.

That the way they handled that situation was generally wolfy.

Pure rolefishing on Maple's part.

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 21:23
Logic
Manasi

AGGHAHGAH GET IN HERE NOW

This vote is the decisive one of the game. If town is ousted today, by Day 4 the Mafia will steamroll the disorganized and demoralized town and brute force another townie ouster! After that Town will lack the votes to resist in any meaningful way.

YOU MUST CHOOSE!


Arapocalypse, Cuth wagon isn't happening, so please back me up.

Visorslash, this is some Franklin bullshit and you know it. Back me up!

Hally, there are only two wagons today, Montmorency and Maple. Everyone's gotta choose.

Colonel, I am begging you to vote Maple here. I'm putting my life on the line.

Ephemeral, choose between me and Maple. I really need your alliance.




i read people on their posts too, not just their votes. and i like bop and manti’s posts more than yours, cuth’s and logic’s :shrug:

Like, there's any amount of disagreement possible in judging tone or process, but one has to take into account factors external to a player's posts too, because this is a game of deception. Factors such as mechanics and associatives. If you were spectating a hypothetical game, where you had one player who predominantly organized ousters against three mafia and another who fought hard against every one of those, but you thought by posting the first player was the worst-looking in the game and the second the best, you would reevaluate your impressions, wouldn't you?

At least come up with a plausible team for me to be with.


i also have never said i’m convinced bop and manti are villagers

manti is upper poe for me and bop is my “villagery but if there’s a deep wolf it’s probably them” pick. so you’re arguing with me about a position i don’t actually hold

I mean, your position is that I'm more likely to be scum than either of them.

I don't think you'll have another chance to test Maple after today.


vote: logic

i do not have warm fuzzy feelings in my stomach about esooa

i'mma be honest

Esooa is locked until LYLO for obvious reasons.

Why have you been lolcatting with all your thread-presence up to this point? Serious business is happening!

Please choose between me and Maple.


feels like monty is an easy push for saying weird things but I find a lot of what hes saying to be genuine and not really wolf motivated

Thanks.

You're almost always going to die tonight unless we cinch Maple and he's scum - then I can die for you.


Why do you think !wNL would switch off of Dya?

Stop talking about Visor and help me take out Maple. We can be buddies tomorrow if you do.

Maple
03-01-2021, 21:29
Wait I got a meme when I get home

ColonelLubriderm
03-01-2021, 21:29
Vote: logic

Maple
03-01-2021, 21:31
Vote: logic

But sir, Monty demands satisfaction!

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 21:36
If y'all really policy-ousting an inactive on the decisive D3 of an MU-style game, someone's certainly going to be in for a rude awakening, one way or another.

Esooa
03-01-2021, 21:52
really don't think Monty is scum lol

Hally
03-01-2021, 22:04
really don't think Monty is scum lol
i’m starting to agree honestly

Hally
03-01-2021, 22:05
vote: logic

Zack
03-01-2021, 22:07
Official Tally as of #2403

5 Logic (Visor, Arapocalypse, Cuthillius, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)

2 Maple (Esooa, Montmorency)

1 Cuthillius (Ephemeral)
1 Montmorency (Maple)

Not Voting: Logic, Manasi

thunderously calm

Maple
03-01-2021, 22:08
Was at the liquor store picking up some rum and whiskey (for baking) and found this Maple Cream Liqueur. I'm excited to use it.

Maple
03-01-2021, 22:09
i’m starting to agree honestly

That's a problem for future me, most likely

Hally
03-01-2021, 22:12
That's a problem for future me, most likely
https://media.tenor.com/images/7d0e47701cb8ff21e1c1c19651b41e91/tenor.gif

Maple
03-01-2021, 22:17
I'm making black forest cake

Esooa
03-01-2021, 22:38
would Logic just not post as town here?

Hally
03-01-2021, 22:39
would Logic just not post as town here?
highly doubt it

Hally
03-01-2021, 22:40
if he actually ghosted the thread as a villager after subbing in i will not be happy

Visor
03-01-2021, 22:41
if he actually ghosted the thread as a villager after subbing in i will not be happy

ya was about to say this

Esooa
03-01-2021, 22:45
vote: logic

weh

Visor
03-01-2021, 22:57
so, where to after logic

cuth?

i dont think esooa is paired with dolby i think

Hally
03-01-2021, 23:09
i have to work now and am not sure i’ll be here for EoD so just gonna post where i’m at now

eph
ara
esooa

visor
bop
monty

manti
manasi

cuth
logic

i’m scared to put monty that high because i’m not sure i want my legacy to be “monty villa” but i’m kinda coming around to it with the way he keeps hammering on this “dome manti” line

i’m also not sure how much slack we should keep giving manasi just for having good tone and voting dya D1 when she’s making like three posts a day but we’ll see

still most worried about misclearing bop. i didn’t really like the lines he was pushing with visor. i also acknowledge visor could be fooling me but i think it’s less likely than bop

alright i have to go so i’ll leave it here

glgl. see ya in dvc hopefully

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:11
wtf is that monty post lol

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 23:11
So, who is bussing "most bussable player ITG", then?

How about this: 5-5 Logic-Maple tie and let it rand.

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:12
Logic
Manasi

AGGHAHGAH GET IN HERE NOW

This vote is the decisive one of the game. If town is ousted today, by Day 4 the Mafia will steamroll the disorganized and demoralized town and brute force another townie ouster! After that Town will lack the votes to resist in any meaningful way.

YOU MUST CHOOSE!


Arapocalypse, Cuth wagon isn't happening, so please back me up.

Visorslash, this is some Franklin bullshit and you know it. Back me up!

Hally, there are only two wagons today, Montmorency and Maple. Everyone's gotta choose.

Colonel, I am begging you to vote Maple here. I'm putting my life on the line.

Ephemeral, choose between me and Maple. I really need your alliance.





Like, there's any amount of disagreement possible in judging tone or process, but one has to take into account factors external to a player's posts too, because this is a game of deception. Factors such as mechanics and associatives. If you were spectating a hypothetical game, where you had one player who predominantly organized ousters against three mafia and another who fought hard against every one of those, but you thought by posting the first player was the worst-looking in the game and the second the best, you would reevaluate your impressions, wouldn't you?

At least come up with a plausible team for me to be with.



I mean, your position is that I'm more likely to be scum than either of them.

I don't think you'll have another chance to test Maple after today.



Esooa is locked until LYLO for obvious reasons.

Why have you been lolcatting with all your thread-presence up to this point? Serious business is happening!

Please choose between me and Maple.



Thanks.

You're almost always going to die tonight unless we cinch Maple and he's scum - then I can die for you.



Stop talking about Visor and help me take out Maple. We can be buddies tomorrow if you do.

@cuthilius

lowkey reminds me of cob_roee

:quiet:

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:13
except much better but you know what i mean

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:14
Montmorency

Have you played with manti before?

Or just how familiar are you with his playstyle in general, like have you seen him play before or anything

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 23:15
except much better but you know what i mean

I don't.

My wim is collapsing under the weight of secrets and questions.

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:17
I don't.

My wim is collapsing under the weight of secrets and questions.

It's a reference to someone me and cuth played with a few months back in the hydra event

quite a fun character, that one

Visor
03-01-2021, 23:19
i wouldnt exactly clear monty for that kind of thing (the over the top posts)

but i guess if logic is a wolf given his bussing nature (iirc?) i guess maybe you could

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:27
so, where to after logic

cuth?

i dont think esooa is paired with dolby i think

maybe

part of me is stuck on the "cuth would be doing more as a wolf here"

but that's also like, one of the dumbest reasons ever and I don't even know in what capacity(if any) it applies to him as a player in general so

Montmorency
03-01-2021, 23:28
Montmorency

Have you played with manti before?

Or just how familiar are you with his playstyle in general, like have you seen him play before or anything

I'm pretty sure we've been in an MU game together once or twice in 2018-19, can't say I remember anything though.

Why Mention me when I'm right here?


i wouldnt exactly clear monty for that kind of thing (the over the top posts)

but i guess if logic is a wolf given his bussing nature (iirc?) i guess maybe you could

What's with this "bussing nature" guff? I feel like I'm famous for bussing in exactly one game. The reality is, I only bus if we're losing and it's self-pres time, or as an agreed strategy.

Come on Visor, my very first game as Mafia was your History of Violence. You may recall that Pizza, my only partner in this mountainous game, fucking NAPPA'd me D1 and soloed the game while hardclaiming mafia.

THAT'S a "bussing nature."

And let me tell you - again, you should know - every time I've scummed with Pizza, he told his partners to bus him. But he operates by Sith logic, you see - he would vigorously bus back! And if he counterbussed so hard that you died instead, well, as the Sith say, you just weren't strong enough.

Now - are you gonna tell me I'm not living through some Franklin bullshit right now?

Visor
03-01-2021, 23:30
monty, i think logic/dolby is a wolf

that is the long and short of it

Maple
03-01-2021, 23:32
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160933279724208128/816072062346854440/20210301_151849.jpg

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:35
well I suppose that'd somewhat explain the way monty's reacting to manti's play sort of

lol

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:42
what if the team's like

cuth/logic/manasi

:thinking:

Esooa
03-01-2021, 23:44
what if the team's like

cuth/logic/manasi

:thinking:

sort by post count become wolf expert :bow:

Ephemeral
03-01-2021, 23:44
the low poster dream squad uwu

Visor
03-02-2021, 00:06
Logic

hello?

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 00:26
so if by some crazy happenstance logic shows up and we think he's a villager, i think we should eliminate cuth instead.

realistic chances of this happening(the logic showing up part): 7%

Cuthillius
03-02-2021, 00:28
so if by some crazy happenstance logic shows up and we think he's a villager, i think we should eliminate cuth instead.

realistic chances of this happening(the logic showing up part): 7%

super angry face

more to the point

i'm basically never teamed with monty

and worlds are small

and monty makes more sense with other people and has had the worst play out of anyone who's actually posted the last two (2) days

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 00:31
super angry face

more to the point

i'm basically never teamed with monty

and worlds are small

and monty makes more sense with other people and has had the worst play out of anyone who's actually posted the last two (2) days

monty's posting and your lack of posting i find equivocally wolfy, and since monty is actually posting and is the odds on favorite to get shot tomorrow night i'm leaning towards you first.

but good to know you are at least lurking

Maple
03-02-2021, 00:34
so if by some crazy happenstance logic shows up and we think he's a villager, i think we should eliminate cuth instead.

realistic chances of this happening(the logic showing up part): 7%

maybe.gif

Maple
03-02-2021, 00:35
Wait I can't remember what my fire meme was I need to think about this

Esooa
03-02-2021, 00:39
monty's posting and your lack of posting i find equivocally wolfy, and since monty is actually posting and is the odds on favorite to get shot tomorrow night i'm leaning towards you first.

but good to know you are at least lurking

I feel like the only real wolfy thing about monty rn is his day associations but eh

Esooa
03-02-2021, 00:39
super angry face

more to the point

i'm basically never teamed with monty

and worlds are small

and monty makes more sense with other people and has had the worst play out of anyone who's actually posted the last two (2) days

which also makes me hate this post

Cuthillius
03-02-2021, 00:42
monty's posting and your lack of posting i find equivocally wolfy, and since monty is actually posting and is the odds on favorite to get shot tomorrow night i'm leaning towards you first.

but good to know you are at least lurking

yee there's not really a whole lot to say dawg

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 00:46
I feel like the only real wolfy thing about monty rn is his day associations but eh

I have lingering issues with his day 1 wrt dya, and im not really sure what to make of this tdome he wants to get in with maple.

Maple
03-02-2021, 00:52
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160933279724208128/816079795364298762/20210301_154928.jpg

cherry syrup

Montmorency
03-02-2021, 00:53
super angry face

more to the point

i'm basically never teamed with monty

and worlds are small

and monty makes more sense with other people and has had the worst play out of anyone who's actually posted the last two (2) days

Why have you been slanking all day? You're in the thread but throwing up smoke. It's irritating because I need to be able to clear you.

And you never even apologized for your D2 galaxy brain scheme (which at least was an attempt).


I have lingering issues with his day 1 wrt dya, and im not really sure what to make of this tdome he wants to get in with maple.

Think spicier while you have time. Seriously.

Montmorency
03-02-2021, 00:54
This is a loltown situation if I ever saw one, but excavating loltowns is not my skill set.

Logic and Manasi town is basically game over, not even from the standpoint of them being mislimmed, but from the fact that they will not reliably vote to rescue Town from a mislim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlPjL2Zym4

Visor
03-02-2021, 00:55
what if logic is a wolf

Maple
03-02-2021, 00:56
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160933279724208128/816080316531343380/20210301_155142.jpg

perfectly level

Visor
03-02-2021, 00:58
i dont think monty is a wolf either i guess

similar reason to why i think dolby is a wolf/esooa is a villager

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:09
really really going to be annoyed if logic decided to not post as a villa

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:13
I would like to eliminate Logic even if he shows up; think that's happening anyway, but stating that now just in case that wasn't clear already!!! Am somewhat disappointed that he isn't playing regardless of alignment after agreeing to join the game, but that's beside the point!!

My thoughts on Cuth aren't particularly in-depth; I've just liked various mindsets/macro analysis thoughts of the thread he's presented, though come to think of it I probably have him a bit higher than the rest of the thread does for him!!

Montmorency, why were you saying for me to get off Cuth anyway? Don't think I've voted him so far this game!

Are you going to finish the cake before EoD, Manti? Looking very hype so far!!!

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:14
Concurring with the Montmorency being town thoughts; feels like he's one of the more active solvers today while a lot of us have been more shrug!!!

Zack
03-02-2021, 01:14
Official Tally as of #2450

6 Logic (Visor, Arapocalypse, Cuthillius, ColonelLubriderm, Hally, Esooa)

1 Cuthillius (Ephemeral)
1 Maple (Montmorency)
1 Montmorency (Maple)

Not Voting: Logic, Manasi

thunderously calm

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:15
Concurring with the Montmorency being town thoughts; feels like he's one of the more active solvers today while a lot of us have been more shrug!!!
More shrug in a sense that we're more confident in the gamestate/are mostly waiting for people to do stuff, that is!!

Montmorency
03-02-2021, 01:18
I would like to eliminate Logic even if he shows up; think that's happening anyway, but stating that now just in case that wasn't clear already!!! Am somewhat disappointed that he isn't playing regardless of alignment after agreeing to join the game, but that's beside the point!!

My thoughts on Cuth aren't particularly in-depth; I've just liked various mindsets/macro analysis thoughts of the thread he's presented, though come to think of it I probably have him a bit higher than the rest of the thread does for him!!

Montmorency, why were you saying for me to get off Cuth anyway? Don't think I've voted him so far this game!

Are you going to finish the cake before EoD, Manti? Looking very hype so far!!!

Looking back, I might have gotten confused at a time when you mentioned Cuth and he voted, or maybe when Hally voted Cuth.

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:37
Didn't think an EoD would get quieter than yesterday, but here we are, I suppose!!!

Legacy thoughts, Visor/Bop?

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 01:38
Signups are now live for zelda on MU

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:39
Didn't think an EoD would get quieter than yesterday, but here we are, I suppose!!!

Legacy thoughts, Visor/Bop?

do it yourselves :P

i'll figure it out tomorrow if im alive

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:39
Signups are now live for zelda on MU

timing is p terrible for me otherwise id play

gl fellas

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:45
guess i’m here for the last 15 min

i’m sure it’ll be riveting

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:46
lol logic

if hes a villager obviously lol

if hes a wolf why not try? i guess wolves realised early and didnt want to spew?

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:47
super angry face

more to the point

i'm basically never teamed with monty

and worlds are small

and monty makes more sense with other people and has had the worst play out of anyone who's actually posted the last two (2) days
what an awful post

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:49
lol logic

if hes a villager obviously lol

if hes a wolf why not try? i guess wolves realised early and didnt want to spew?
Mildly annoying regardless of alignment, yeah!!!

That's pretty much all there is to say about it!

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 01:49
Didn't think an EoD would get quieter than yesterday, but here we are, I suppose!!!

Legacy thoughts, Visor/Bop?

should probably ask hally.

I would explore in cuth/monte tomorrow

I think the deepest possible wolf is one in visor/eph but i currently villa read both.

I some degree of V read on everyone outside of cuth/monte/dolby so thats probably a problem if thats not the exact team.

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:50
lol logic

if hes a villager obviously lol

if hes a wolf why not try? i guess wolves realised early and didnt want to spew?
i feel like we all tacitly agreed to lunch him by like the halfway point in the day if not earlier so i guess they figured they’d cut their losses? i dunno

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:51
i feel like we all tacitly agreed to lunch him by like the halfway point in the day if not earlier so i guess they figured they’d cut their losses? i dunno

thats my guess i suppose

its not a bad play i guess if you realise it, just unfun :P

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:51
should probably ask hally.

I would explore in cuth/monte tomorrow

I think the deepest possible wolf is one in visor/eph but i currently villa read both.

I some degree of V read on everyone outside of cuth/monte/dolby so thats probably a problem if thats not the exact team.
i already posted mine earlier. hasn’t changed since then

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 01:52
i feel like we all tacitly agreed to lunch him by like the halfway point in the day if not earlier so i guess they figured they’d cut their losses? i dunno

If he showed up and did something before 6pm US EST i would have certainly heard him out and if i at least dug what he had or even thought he was wrong but trying, would have gone elsewhere

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:53
what an awful post
Seen this a few times and this feels like it's being overblown; why do you think it's so awful?

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:53
i’m kinda surprised he didn’t at least go for a hail mary vig claim if he’s a wolf

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 01:55
if logic comes in right now and says "did i miss anything" i'll promise to not vote him

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:55
Seen this a few times and this feels like it's being overblown; why do you think it's so awful?
because i think monty is probably a villager so cuth popping in right when he’s floated as a lunch candidate after doing jack the whole day to be like “but hey, what about monty” is pretty terrible

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:57
by grabthar's hammer....

what a day phase

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:58
thats my guess i suppose

its not a bad play i guess if you realise it, just unfun :P
I mean... I think it's plausible that he could have dug himself out a bit, or at least gotten Montmorency killed instead or something?

But... -shrug-

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 01:59
I mean... I think it's plausible that he could have dug himself out a bit, or at least gotten Montmorency killed instead or something?

But... -shrug-

what if monte isnt a villa though

Visor
03-02-2021, 01:59
i generally agree with hallys list

some worry about deep wolves but deal with that later

gl everyone

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 01:59
because i think monty is probably a villager so cuth popping in right when he’s floated as a lunch candidate after doing jack the whole day to be like “but hey, what about monty” is pretty terrible
I mean... okay!

Don't really agree with that though!!

ColonelLubriderm
03-02-2021, 01:59
i generally agree with hallys list

some worry about deep wolves but deal with that later

gl everyone

ditto

Hally
03-02-2021, 01:59
:logic:

glgl

Montmorency
03-02-2021, 02:00
:ballchain:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYU-8IFcDPw

:lam:

Arapocalypse
03-02-2021, 02:00
what if monte isnt a villa thoughThen this discussion is pretty pointless with overthinking and game's easy, and I'm okay with that!!!

Zack
03-02-2021, 02:02
Day is over!

donut post

Zack
03-02-2021, 02:03
:skull: 6 Logic (Visor, Arapocalypse, Cuthillius, ColonelLubriderm, Hally, Esooa)

1 Cuthillius (Ephemeral)
1 Maple (Montmorency)
1 Montmorency (Maple)

Not Voting: Logic, Manasi

thunderously calm

Zack
03-02-2021, 02:03
END OF DAY 3

Logic was eliminated.


An invincible juggernaut in cutscenes, a total pushover in actual gameplay.

https://i.imgur.com/S8lxETb.png

Logic, you are Kai Leng.

:7ninja:



Kai Leng is an assassin working for the human-survivalist organization Cerberus. Leng was formerly a lieutenant and N7 marine in the Systems Alliance known for having anti-alien attitudes.



You are a Mafia Goon.

You win when the mafia can't be prevented from killing everyone else.

Have fun!

:2thumbsup:
Orders for Night Three are due at 7:30 PM est tomorrow.


thunderously calm


Do not post at night!


Alive: 10/17

Arapocalypse
ColonelLubriderm
Cuthillius
Ephemeral
Esooa
Hally
Manasi
Maple
Montmorency
Visor

Dead: 7/17

Csargo - Conrad Verner, Town Biggest Fan, eliminated d1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053814731#post2053814731).
Sunbae - Garrus Vakarian, Vanilla Town, killed n1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053814764#post2053814764).
dyachei - Harbinger, Mafia Backup, eliminated d2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815621#post2053815621).
Raskolnikov - Mordin Solus, Vanilla Town, died to poison d2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815621#post2053815621).
GeneralHankerchief - Jacob Taylor, Vanilla Town, died n2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815691&viewfull=1#post2053815691).
pzelda - Commander Shepard, Town Odd-Night Poisoner, died n2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815691&viewfull=1#post2053815691).
Logic - Kai Leng, Mafia Goon, eliminated d3.

Zack
03-03-2021, 01:55
END OF NIGHT 3

Ephemeral was killed.


"You are more individualistic than any other species I've encountered. Put three humans in a room, there will be six opinions."

https://i.imgur.com/Bv3g1nF.png

Ephemeral, you are Samara.

:pray:



Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code. Though she is skilled with weapons, Samara usually relies on her powerful biotic abilities. Justicars rarely leave asari space, but Samara's pursuit of justice has brought her to Illium.



You are Vanilla Town.

You win when the mafia are eliminated.

Have fun!

:2thumbsup:

Alive: 9/17

Arapocalypse
ColonelLubriderm
Cuthillius
Esooa
Hally
Manasi
Maple
Montmorency
Visor

Dead: 8/17

Csargo - Conrad Verner, Town Biggest Fan, eliminated d1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053814731#post2053814731).
Sunbae - Garrus Vakarian, Vanilla Town, killed n1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053814764#post2053814764).
dyachei - Harbinger, Mafia Backup, eliminated d2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815621#post2053815621).
Raskolnikov - Mordin Solus, Vanilla Town, died to poison d2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815621#post2053815621).
GeneralHankerchief - Jacob Taylor, Vanilla Town, died n2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815691&viewfull=1#post2053815691).
pzelda - Commander Shepard, Town Odd-Night Poisoner, died n2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053815691&viewfull=1#post2053815691).
Logic - Kai Leng, Mafia Goon, eliminated d3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154374-Mass-Effect-17er-Game-Thread?p=2053816328#post2053816328).
Ephemeral - Samara, Vanilla Town, killed n3.


Day Four has started and you may now post.

Voting ends in: thunderously calm

ColonelLubriderm
03-03-2021, 01:57
Sup hally

Visor
03-03-2021, 01:57
gg eph :medievalcheers:

Visor
03-03-2021, 01:59
i had a bit of a read over the thread last night and i think i like manti and esooa as villas more maybe

also given how dolby talked about dya i am thinking about clearing the people he had a lot to say about cause possibly just trying to pocket?

Visor
03-03-2021, 01:59
Sup hally

intriguing

Maple
03-03-2021, 02:00
lolgic

Maple
03-03-2021, 02:02
vote: Cuthillius

ColonelLubriderm
03-03-2021, 02:03
vote: Cuthillius

This is the way

Maple
03-03-2021, 02:03
super angry face

more to the point

i'm basically never teamed with monty

and worlds are small

and monty makes more sense with other people and has had the worst play out of anyone who's actually posted the last two (2) days

for this post

obviously

Visor
03-03-2021, 02:03
monty has been wrong on a fair amount this game, so much so that i think he kinda has to be a villa?

plus i think dolbys posts re him were trying to pocket him and i dont think either monty or esooa responded how i think they would if it was a w/w interactions

Maple
03-03-2021, 02:04
you don't know how hard i'd pop off if monty got killed in the night and flipped vt

Visor
03-03-2021, 02:04
Vote: Cuth

ColonelLubriderm
03-03-2021, 02:05
I’ve read nothing overnight except my posts early d1 on dobby hyperbolically extolling him as obvi town.

They have clearly ripened with age.

Maple
03-03-2021, 02:05
so

bop, visor

which of yall got saddled with Team 0 WIM

ColonelLubriderm
03-03-2021, 02:05
so

bop, visor

which of yall got saddled with Team 0 WIM

Probably neither of us

Maple
03-03-2021, 02:06
Probably neither of us

thats a worse storyline

Arapocalypse
03-03-2021, 02:16
I have no original thoughts anymore and am probably just going to "make" reads going forward by pulling quotes of the recently deceased, which will probably be primarily GeneralHankerchief :


Really? You got this impression of Esooa diverging from her scum game enough to make a confident read on it less than 30 minutes into this game?
























These are all the posts that Esooa made before Dolby supposedly called them alignment-indicative and said they didn't match the posts in Esooa's scum game that Dolby read.

This seems like a really fake read on Dolby's part to me.


I swore I wasn't gonna get into the swing of things until tomorrow.

Let me elaborate: I think Esooa has been ~marginally townie on her own. She's been able to keep up with the volume of :daisy:posting despite a pretty insular playerlist and doesn't seem to be forcing much. Can these things come from a mafioso? Certainly, but they're a) light regardless, and b) not the reason why Dolby was repping his read. Dolby bothered to cite meta, which seems fake and forced, and feels like he did it to acquire credibility. The post sticks out, in a bad way.

I think it's a very viable world that Dolby is scum and TMI'd Esooa as town, just from the way he repped that read and presented it to the thread.


Good enough for me

Vote: dolby


I think if Esooa was Dolby's partner, Dolby would have been more likely to just drop a townread on Esooa for the reasons I mentioned rather than try to bring credibility of "I read a recent scum game of hers" into it. It's light, but just from the way it's presented etc, the reason just feels more TMI-y than partner-y.

Speaking of which, just straight up putting Esooa in the towncore at this point; there's been enough not w/w associatives/solid thoughts from her that I feel fairly comfortable with doing that!!!

There was also a fun Maple vote on Dolby that early; tracking that and seeing how that goes, I suppose!!

Feels like today will be either very easy or very difficult!!!!!

ColonelLubriderm
03-03-2021, 02:16
0
hally
pzelda
ara

1-2
visor
ephemeral
cuth
manti
manasi

1-2
GH
monty
dolby

1
esooa
dya

Hopefully this is still the way