Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Hally]

nothing

i'm tired and its the morning

i'm just here so i don't get fined
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[Visor]

Vote: montmorency

cmon pal

[Cuthillius]

taking a break by playing some botw

i just spent the last twenty minutes climbing some cliffs so i could paraglide onto a tower

finding food and random encounters on the way up, climbing trees so i could paraglide partway up the cliff face so i could actually make it up them without running out of stamina

get to the top, look at the vista, realize "i have no idea where i am or where exactly i started, but this is beautiful"

i love this game

[Cuthillius]

so

soul read

0 to 2 wolves posting

name a number

[Hally]

two

[Hally]

what if we were w/w? haha jk... unless :blush:

[Hally]

live look at ara and visor in wolf chat rn

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[Visor]

live look at ara and visor in wolf chat rn

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[ColonelLubriderm]

so

soul read

0 to 2 wolves posting

name a number

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[Hally]

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[Hally]

this truly is a game of mafia we are playing

[Visor]

so you still think cuth?

if cuth w partenred with who

if cuth v who next?

[ColonelLubriderm]

so you still think cuth?

if cuth w partenred with who

if cuth v who next?

Cuth/manasi
Cuth/ara
Cuth/maple less likely
Cuth/you?

If cuth=v then maple or montenot.

Unless the team is exactly manasi/ara then I don’t see how there isn’t a wolf in those 3(cuth/monte/male)

It might even make sense to go monte first because him being wolf makes cuth/maple V

I don’t even think manti is a wolf but I am not confident enough to 100% rule him out

[Hally]

so you still think cuth?

if cuth w partenred with who

if cuth v who next?
the lolwolves super ez dream team world is cuth/manasi (which would explain why cuth is doing *gestures* this)

i don’t think cuth is with monte or bop. beyond that he can theoretically be with anyone else i think?

if he’s v i probably lunch manasi, give monty another hard look and then look at bop or manti depending on things

[Hally]

i will say that although i think we’re probably in a good spot, it’s hard to feel super confident in that when half the thread isn’t contributing much and the other half is still kinda spinning our wheels

but it is what it is i guess

[Montmorency]

Stuff Cuth said about my meta is more or less adequate.


vote: GeneralHankerchief

vote: Montmorency

exclusively for his comment on "what if they're both villagers what then huh" earlier today


turning over gh/dya in my mind

i think both of them have had distinctly villagery notes today, but i don't love love either of those but i think there's a good enough chance that either one is v that i'd rather go elsewhere today question mark pending certain people being in thread

monty looks absolutely terrible if they're both villagers, thus my vote there, i think specifically pzelda making the first post about dya being an outed wolf early on d1 and also dunking on gh is probably a fairly good look regardless of gh/dya alignments

don't think the wolves are taking quite as much advantage of town blehness as they could, but maybe that's because we're not on the right tracks and don't have to yet?

which would give me a bit of hope for our chances after we get A Flip

there's a big block of what do with manasi/manti/colonel/dolby

and unless there are at least two wolves in there idk what's going on with this game maybe if gh/dya not w/w

i feel like there was a fairly considerable swing of momentum onto specifically that world today, and i don't think the people like actively championing it are as much to blame as the people who treated it as a sort of implicit assumption

idk

i think coming into today being like "haha dya/gh is obviously a wolf here" (with exceptions, but for the most part this applies to most people in this game

is >rand v

but the people who sort of sponged that assumption and were like "well we should probably resolve there but who knows"/trying to focus on building a world with them as wolves without actually reading them as that strong of wolves prior

are >rand w



a) don't call yourself dumb

b) the multiquotes were things i was collecting to illustrate my point wrt people who weren't committing to gh/dya immediately but kind of reinforcing the position that they should be the poe today and that they were still good pushes from yesterday without getting too much skin in the game, which i think is very >rand w if gh/dya v/v and even mildly >rand w if they're w/v in a lot of situations

c) when i said gh's progression on dya was very binary, i meant that it was either on or off-- he strongly townread them through the beginning of this phase and then very quickly swung over to the other side; i don't think this is necessarily a Bad Look but there are worlds in which it's sort of a necessary evil push and i'm a little concerned about its similarity to his push on lissa last game in the back of my head



yeah i acknowledge that you've contributed a lot more to the game than anyone else in that category by a decent margin and i also think the stuff you have done is pretty lackluster esp if gh/dya v

which i'm exploring, if not locking in, at this point

i gth gh/dya both v at this point but it's a low confidence thing and that's a lot of why i don't like monty's posts today

with regards to your second point i answered that yesterday, i think monty and you specifically did that d2

I still think it's sillypants to suss someone like this for basically sharing your lean avant la letre. 'I expressed a take that you later thought could have merit, therefore I'm lockiest scum all game' is one of the weirder tunnels I've faced.


Vote: montmorency

cmon pal

My first post today should hold all the answers.

The lolcatting below this is noteworthy, so I'm noting it.

[Cuthillius]

sure

but i think i took more of a stance on gh/dya's alignments than you did, and i came into the phase after the strong pushes on them had cooled off substantially, and both of those are relatively significant imo

my impression from your posting, and this may be misinformed because i honestly haven't read them in a long time, was that you were basically sanctioning those pushes from the start of the phase, which is when they were strongest, but also saying "huh what if they're both v what then" which is weird and unnecessary when you're not indicating a huge degree of caring about their alignments and not doing anything to push back against the villagers who were legitimately tunneling on gh/dya there

it's like

the absolute safest way to approach that situation in terms of your connections to anyone being pressured regardless of dya/gh's alignments lol

[Cuthillius]

also lol

if you're gonna call me out for lolcatting at least pick a better example, like #2617

[Esooa]

the lolwolves super ez dream team world is cuth/manasi (which would explain why cuth is doing *gestures* this)

i don’t think cuth is with monte or bop. beyond that he can theoretically be with anyone else i think?

if he’s v i probably lunch manasi, give monty another hard look and then look at bop or manti depending on things

how does it explain why cuth is doing this?

[Esooa]

Hally, what do you think cuth is trying to accomplish in the recent pages

[Esooa]

and what do you think of cuth having "one wolf read"

[Hally]

Stuff Cuth said about my meta is more or less adequate.














I still think it's sillypants to suss someone like this for basically sharing your lean avant la letre. 'I expressed a take that you later thought could have merit, therefore I'm lockiest scum all game' is one of the weirder tunnels I've faced.



My first post today should hold all the answers.

The lolcatting below this is noteworthy, so I'm noting it.
so you don’t like cuth’s read on you. is he a wolf? if not him, who?

[Esooa]

Cuth, you said Monty doing something like trying to get Manti killed is something he'd need to do yesterday

is there a reason he doesn't make more of his focus bussing logic before pushing Manti coming into today? What do you think of Logic no posting considering?

[Esooa]

poor wording in my last post

don't remember if you said he'd need to push manti but I remember something along the lines of he'd need to be getting something done

[Hally]

how does it explain why cuth is doing this?
well being on a team of people with no WIM who have either hardly posted or flaked completely wouldn’t be the most motivating thing

[Hally]

Hally, what do you think cuth is trying to accomplish in the recent pages
i have no idea

[Esooa]

well being on a team of people with no WIM who have either hardly posted or flaked completely wouldn’t be the most motivating thing

maybe I don't know what "doing this" meant

can you explain

[Esooa]

i have no idea

do you think he's doing it as a wolf to try to get town read? He says he's doing it for himself, do you believe that and if he's a wolf what does it accomplish for him?

I'm asking because I feel like it's pretty towny but I want to talk about

[Montmorency]

sure

but i think i took more of a stance on gh/dya's alignments than you did, and i came into the phase after the strong pushes on them had cooled off substantially, and both of those are relatively significant imo

my impression from your posting, and this may be misinformed because i honestly haven't read them in a long time, was that you were basically sanctioning those pushes from the start of the phase, which is when they were strongest, but also saying "huh what if they're both v what then" which is weird and unnecessary when you're not indicating a huge degree of caring about their alignments and not doing anything to push back against the villagers who were legitimately tunneling on gh/dya there

it's like

the absolute safest way to approach that situation in terms of your connections to anyone being pressured regardless of dya/gh's alignments lol

From the very beginning the context of what my post was in response to has been elided.


gh/dya w/w

change my mind.


What happens if they all flip town?

You Thanked that Visor post by the way.

Although I can see how people might have been confused about whether I was referring to the GH/dya pairing in Visor's post or the dya-Rask reveals coming at the end of day (i.e. dya/Rask t-t would almost always indicate GH town).


also lol

if you're gonna call me out for lolcatting at least pick a better example, like #2617

I didn't. Admittedly, it's not easy to understand what I meant there, but your reaction was unexpected; from context (!) it should be clear that I had moved on from addressing you.

[Hally]

and what do you think of cuth having "one wolf read"
i can see it both ways

i think he’s proooobably a wolf who doesn’t have other avenues to pursue so he’s doubling down on his monty push to maybe get monty killed before him or at least avoid spewing more people on his way out

but i acknowledge it’s also possible he’s a villager who’s being lazy or doesn’t feel he should reevaluate for whatever reason or just really thinks monty is a hit

[Montmorency]

so you don’t like cuth’s read on you. is he a wolf? if not him, who?

I'm having this discussion independent of Cuth's alignment.

At the end of the day, I will sheep as I see fit. If you want something to do, ISO Logic.

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm having this discussion independent of Cuth's alignment.

At the end of the day, I will sheep as I see fit. If you want something to do, ISO Logic.

And with that montenot pulled ahead of cuth in the race to see who can lolcat with words the best

[Hally]

maybe I don't know what "doing this" meant

can you explain
as in, it might explain why he does really seem like he’s trying/is wasting his time with pointless stuff like isoing himself/only really is talking about one player/etc

if he’s a wolf on team zero WIM he’s not gonna be motivated to do much more when his team has completely left him hanging

[Esooa]

And with that montenot pulled ahead of cuth in the race to see who can lolcat with words the best

lmao

[Cuthillius]

Cuth, you said Monty doing something like trying to get Manti killed is something he'd need to do yesterday

is there a reason he doesn't make more of his focus bussing logic before pushing Manti coming into today? What do you think of Logic no posting considering?

a few possible reasons come to mind

off the cuff:

a) maybe logic said he wanted to post and never got around to it but monty felt like he should at least give him a chance

b) maybe logic just decided there wasn't any point and monty knew logic was dead in the water by the time he started posting much and didn't know how to interact with him because it's super easy to tmi so he went very light there (i did this in team game with gh/wisdom both a little on accident)

c) he was pretty strongly suspected until this phase and so he wanted to set up that direction ahead of time, so that people paid attention to him at least a little

[Hally]

as in, it might explain why he does really seem like he’s trying/is wasting his time with pointless stuff like isoing himself/only really is talking about one player/etc

if he’s a wolf on team zero WIM he’s not gonna be motivated to do much more when his team has completely left him hanging
*doesn’t

[Hally]

do you think he's doing it as a wolf to try to get town read? He says he's doing it for himself, do you believe that and if he's a wolf what does it accomplish for him?

I'm asking because I feel like it's pretty towny but I want to talk about
i have no clue. i don’t think it’s villagery though. it seems like something he wants us to level ourselves into thinking is villagery because “why would a wolf do this” when it’s actually completely asinine and meaningless

[Cuthillius]

i can see it both ways

i think he’s proooobably a wolf who doesn’t have other avenues to pursue so he’s doubling down on his monty push to maybe get monty killed before him or at least avoid spewing more people on his way out

but i acknowledge it’s also possible he’s a villager who’s being lazy or doesn’t feel he should reevaluate for whatever reason or just really thinks monty is a hit

i'm sitting here watching the wrestling match between the inner demon who's disappointed about you feeling that way and the inner demon who read my own posts this morning

[Hally]

if he’s a villager and thinks that’s the best use of his time when he’s in the bottom of the poe i... don’t even know

[Montmorency]

a few possible reasons come to mind

off the cuff:

a) maybe logic said he wanted to post and never got around to it but monty felt like he should at least give him a chance

b) maybe logic just decided there wasn't any point and monty knew logic was dead in the water by the time he started posting much and didn't know how to interact with him because it's super easy to tmi so he went very light there (i did this in team game with gh/wisdom both a little on accident)

c) he was pretty strongly suspected until this phase and so he wanted to set up that direction ahead of time, so that people paid attention to him at least a little

a) Everyone gave him a chance
b) This is the exact kind of scenario I can't -not- bus
c) If I reasoned so, I would have been the one filling Logic's slot yesterday


i'm sitting here watching the wrestling match between the inner demon who's disappointed about you feeling that way and the inner demon who read my own posts this morning

Maple's about to be on you for this soft.

[Hally]

I'm having this discussion independent of Cuth's alignment.

At the end of the day, I will sheep as I see fit. If you want something to do, ISO Logic.
he had 10 posts bronana

[Cuthillius]

i have no clue. i don’t think it’s villagery though. it seems like something he wants us to level ourselves into thinking is villagery because “why would a wolf do this” when it’s actually completely asinine and meaningless

it's at least a little bit not meaningless

sure the "this was in response to gh about his question the end" is not particularly useful, but i do think saying "yes here this post seems very shallow and obscure but here's my best attempt at parsing what was specifically going through my mind" does make up to some degree for just posting a fairly detailed readslist by my standards mid d1 and never really explaining much about what i was doing

i'm not manti i'm not performative for the sake of being performative, especially not as a wolf, and if i was i would have done something better with my morning lol

[Hally]

And with that montenot pulled ahead of cuth in the race to see who can lolcat with words the best
lmao

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m currently In a place where I think visor is a villa and probably ara and think eliminating cuth/monte/manasi wins.

It is solely based on my recollection of the end of day 2 and if I wake up feeling like this I’ll go reread the eod and explain why this is the case

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m currently In a place where I think visor is a villa and probably ara and think eliminating cuth/monte/manasi wins.

It is solely based on my recollection of the end of day 2 and if I wake up feeling like this I’ll go reread the eod and explain why this is the case

Or reread eod 2 and find out I remembered poorly

[Esooa]

as in, it might explain why he does really seem like he’s trying/is wasting his time with pointless stuff like isoing himself/only really is talking about one player/etc

if he’s a wolf on team zero WIM he’s not gonna be motivated to do much more when his team has completely left him hanging

I feel like isoing himself is more work than just making normal towny posts lol

[Cuthillius]

if he’s a villager and thinks that’s the best use of his time when he’s in the bottom of the poe i... don’t even know

dude

i'm at the bottom of the poe

the game is a lot easier for me than it is for you

how many times to i have to explain

granted the part of this you can't see is my full and complete intention to actually follow through on solidifying reads and making sure it is what i think it is tomorrow, and if this was all i was going to do this phase your criticism would be fully justified

meh

[Montmorency]

he had 10 posts bronana

All of them were calculated anti-spew. Maybe you can out-WIFOM his approach.

[Esooa]

i have no clue. i don’t think it’s villagery though. it seems like something he wants us to level ourselves into thinking is villagery because “why would a wolf do this” when it’s actually completely asinine and meaningless

mmmmm

but why does he do this and hope we're going to get to that point instead of doing something else

[Hally]

it's at least a little bit not meaningless

sure the "this was in response to gh about his question the end" is not particularly useful, but i do think saying "yes here this post seems very shallow and obscure but here's my best attempt at parsing what was specifically going through my mind" does make up to some degree for just posting a fairly detailed readslist by my standards mid d1 and never really explaining much about what i was doing

i'm not manti i'm not performative for the sake of being performative, especially not as a wolf, and if i was i would have done something better with my morning lol
but why are you making us have to level ourselves into v reading you by asking whether you’d spend your morning refurbishing your own iso

why can’t you dig in and solve and move the game forward

why does this have to be so difficult

i really don’t get it

[Esooa]

Hally, did you see the post I quoted regarding Cuth and how he doesn't get as mad as wolf

what do you think of that post and his posting earlier this day phase where he was mad

[Esooa]

as I'm saying this though I also remember there was a lot of stuff I didn't like in his ISO though

mrrrr

[Hally]

dude

i'm at the bottom of the poe

the game is a lot easier for me than it is for you

how many times to i have to explain

granted the part of this you can't see is my full and complete intention to actually follow through on solidifying reads and making sure it is what i think it is tomorrow, and if this was all i was going to do this phase your criticism would be fully justified

meh
but i feel like you keep saying you’re gonna do stuff like that but then you never do

i keep waiting for you to put your foot on the gas but you keep... not doing it

i’m all ears whenever you decide to do that though

[Hally]

All of them were calculated anti-spew. Maybe you can out-WIFOM his approach.
i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic

[Hally]

Hally, did you see the post I quoted regarding Cuth and how he doesn't get as mad as wolf

what do you think of that post and his posting earlier this day phase where he was mad
was he mad? i don’t remember that

[Esooa]

Cuth, can you explain what it was that made you say day 2 you were 75% close to locking me town? The same stuff you mentioned with your day 1 read?

[Esooa]

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

here and posts around here I felt like it yeah

[Cuthillius]

but why are you making us have to level ourselves into v reading you by asking whether you’d spend your morning refurbishing your own iso

why can’t you dig in and solve and move the game forward

why does this have to be so difficult

i really don’t get it

literally because i've wanted to do it for a long time and i think it's vaguely funny

and i will, though i don't know what you expect forward to be

you guys have been doing a good job so far, if i can get you to yeet the wolves in the poe instead of me that's a success in its own right by my standards for this game

i highly doubt my opinions are going to shift massively, i'm back to being pretty sure most of the reads i was doubting at the start of the day were correct

i've locked you in, esooa finally got around to being v!her, visor just doesn't make sense with dya i think, manti has actually been villagery and not just from posting more, manasi's barely been here, both of the flipped wolves were absolute wet blankets, i'm not happy with the way dya played d2 but i also recognize that it worked on me and i'm just kinda over that

there aren't that many smoking guns i could find if i wanted to based on how the game's played out so far

[Cuthillius]

but i feel like you keep saying you’re gonna do stuff like that but then you never do

i keep waiting for you to put your foot on the gas but you keep... not doing it

i’m all ears whenever you decide to do that though

yeah? it's basically day 1 of 2 fmpov

[Hally]

my problem is not that i can’t find reasons to villa read cuth. i can

my problem is that the reasons i can come up with require me to level myself and/or are significantly weaker than the reasons i have to v read everyone else except maybe manasi, and at this stage of the game i don’t think i should have to level myself to find villagers. they should just... be villagery

[Esooa]

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated


my problem is not that i can’t find reasons to villa read cuth. i can

my problem is that the reasons i can come up with require me to level myself and/or are significantly weaker than the reasons i have to v read everyone else except maybe manasi, and at this stage of the game i don’t think i should have to level myself to find villagers. they should just... be villagery

what do you mean by level yourself

[Cuthillius]

my problem is not that i can’t find reasons to villa read cuth. i can

my problem is that the reasons i can come up with require me to level myself and/or are significantly weaker than the reasons i have to v read everyone else except maybe manasi, and at this stage of the game i don’t think i should have to level myself to find villagers. they should just... be villagery

well

we can talk about monty tomorrow

[Hally]

alright cuth, i don’t think there’s any point continuing to pester you now. you’ve promised to do stuff tomorrow and i’m happy to see what you put forward

(i’m not actually sure how much i can be on tomorrow but hopefully i’ll have time to read it)

[Hally]

what do you mean by level yourself
like wifom myself

idk

[Cuthillius]

was he mad? i don’t remember that

rawr

[Hally]

rawr
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.515493623.0217/raf,750x1000,075,t,FFFFFF:97ab1c12de.u1.jpg

[Hally]

does that dino look mad

didn’t think so

[Cuthillius]

at the end of the day i'm just gonna post whatever i post and if it directly persuades you or levels you or strongarms you into thinking i'm a villager then that's fine and if it doesn't and you decide my posts just don't hold up and i've been the wolfiest person in the thread then go ahead and yeet me, i certainly haven't played very well and if my posting today and tomorrow doesn't get you all there then it is what it is

i'm honestly not that concerned about what i do holistically

[Arapocalypse]

@Arapocalypse (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=101721) i assume you still think cuth is v? where do you wanna go toDay instead?
Sorry, I've been pretty busy with stuff and forgot; I'll be actually here in a few hours!!!!

Probably yeah, will get back to you on that!!!

[Visor]

For what it's worth, I'm not feeling that strongly about flips; could easily see dya flipping town here, but would not be overly surprised if they flip mafia, either!!!

Point here being that this is probably a day that will be more useful in retrospect, but the day itself is shrug!!

p sure ara also made this read about logics slot

but the timing s just weird when dya is about to flip red i guess

[Cuthillius]

visor it is uncanny how similar your play is to last game

how do you feel about essoa's analysis today compared to what you've seen from her in the past

[Visor]

visor it is uncanny how similar your play is to last game

how do you feel about essoa's analysis today compared to what you've seen from her in the past

idk

i think her game in general is weird this game

my experience with her was basically twofold

a) metal gear - generally tried hard and really tried to dumpster people
b) stormtossed - tried to appear reasonable, had awkward actions in thread because mechanically couldnt really bus

her posts feel off to me but could just be the offsite thing

the thing that makes me want to v read her is the dolby interactions, the early townread stuff

[Cuthillius]

how carefully did you read the games you hosted

my closest point of comparison is the one with tim where she coasted (very actively, mind you) in terms of actually personally exerting influence until she felt like she needed to clarify things and then did super deep and detailed dives/analysis

and like

the arc is vaguely similar here but it's been a bit

she feels a little distant and i think it could absolutely be environment and all but

yee

[Visor]

how carefully did you read the games you hosted

my closest point of comparison is the one with tim where she coasted (very actively, mind you) in terms of actually personally exerting influence until she felt like she needed to clarify things and then did super deep and detailed dives/analysis

and like

the arc is vaguely similar here but it's been a bit

she feels a little distant and i think it could absolutely be environment and all but

yee

not very

i got broad strokes but ive forgotten them mostly by now

[Visor]

none of the analysis does anything for me tbh

in fact none of esooas catch up walkthroughs have me doing anything othe rthan this:

https://i.imgur.com/qCUxLrd.jpg

[Visor]

why're you having issues with that dyachei


I like ara always


wanna ISO cuth and give thoughts on him for me?


Official Tally as of #779

3 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm)
3 dyachei (Ampharos, Ephemeral, Hally)

2 Ampharos (Visor, pzelda)
2 Cuthillius (Maple, Esooa)

1 Dolby (Csargo)
1 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief)
1 GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius)
1 pzelda (Montmorency)

Not Voting: Dolby, dyachei, Manasi

thunderously calm


it is a bad tunnel


Dyachei, can you explain where your at more specifically in regards to finding it hard to get into the game? Why is that?
oh boo multi quote limit

these are mostly all esooas posts about dya

esooa has a question or two for dya and then a follow up at eod when dya has heat

[ColonelLubriderm]

I would entertain this thought experiment if you can convince me Dyas AtE and self vote is fake which is something I currently don’t believe. I believe the frustration was real

[Visor]

alright where I'm getting really really tired (sorry Dya lmao I feel bad for leaving immediately after you say that) but here's where I'm at. Tiers not ordered

Town

Arapocalypse-I like some stuff from them, dislike some. I like their reads for the most part in p#501. Most specifically saying Amy's entry wasn't bad, contrary to a decent amount of others. Saying Visor was "hmm..." which I can see. I think he's town atp but the reads on him before here weren't warranted. Some things from my notes cause this is a slot I went back and forth on:

p#207 Ara claims masons with me quoting where I said I'd be pocketed by anyone who does. I feel like it could be a legitimate pocket attempt, especially because it wasn't done in real time but rather something Ara felt the need to comment on in catch up.

p#215/218 Ara first agrees with GH's Dolby thing but then reverses the read on 218. Feels real and I like the quick revaluation.

p#229 I dislike that Ara town read Sunbae for the specificity of his reads (being that something was 2/10 sketchy) because I just don't think that's very specific.

p#259 I liked Ara's point about GH; saying that he'd be more comfortable fluff posting before actually getting into it as town

Hally/Ephemeral-they've both had good tone and nice contributions, but their interactions feel very weirdly buddying to me. At the start of the game they basically agreed on every single read which just didn't feel natural to me. I am town reading them both otherwise though so maybe it's nothing
pzelda
Sunbae-the early town reads weren't warranted imo but I liked p#492 pretty decently

Null
Visor-I haven't given him enough attention. I read all the posts in this game but the past ~300 I've all read while playing league/watching anime with people so haven't given them the thought I need lol. Lightly towny from my catchup to ~post 500 but that's all.
Cuthillius
Csargo-Csargo does feel pretty awkard to me, but I've gotten very strong town pings from a few of his posts. Most specifically p#331. Just feels very naturally inquisitive and towny.
Ampharos-Disagree with the scum reads here. Specifically the thing about Hally saying it was weird they mentioned actively trying to not get pocketed. Town reading people I like without fairly evaluating them is something I always need to be weary of and I'm pretty sure they're just mentioning that too
GeneralHankerchief-Something that stood out to me a lot was not only that GH's aggressiveness towards Dolby was weird, but the fact that Visor v read Dolby before it, and Manti said my posts seem pretty good before it. I get why Dolby using meta in his post specifically makes it stand out as probably meaning more, but I dislike how GH pointed out very strongly that nothing I said had been particularly towny, when not commenting on things such as someone saying my posts seemed good at basically the same time. In regards to GH's original vote on Eph (p#297) I can understand where he's coming from with Eph being too "blendy," as I do see a lot of potential pocketing between him/Hally, but I don't like that GH says he trusts Eph the least out of widely town read players, putting Ara over him even when I think most reasons to TR Ara at this point would be good tone, which imo Eph also strongly has

GH says he'll reval it soon after, and later posts p#396 where he agrees with Hally that he has had some unique takes. He still says he doesn't find a reason to town read Eph, which is valid, but hasn't moved his vote since which meh.
Dolby-he's alright, but nothing so towny I'd like to move him up, especially with the lack of posting. He dropped a couple walls earlier I'll get to when I wake up later and I'll think about the read more. Reminded here that I really liked Csargo pointing out Dolby's town reads were probably too strong for what he had done.
Manasi-no content lol
ColonelLubriderm

Scummy

Montmorency
dyachei
Maple-I'm dying tired so this will be the only one I explain rn. Manti has said like 5 times this game now that everyone is wolfy which I'm just ??? at. I didn't like his sheeping of GH on p#116. I didn't like how he said “I have a hidden GH thought" in p#144 because it feels performative. I didn't like his Sunbae read in p#156 where he said Sunbae was making a lot of sense, partly because I don't agree at this point, partly because Sunbae had actually taken a lot of positions different from Manti, such as having scum read GH earlier while Manti just straight sheeped GH.

Vote: Maple

:Zzzz::Zzzz::Zzzz:

guess who has died

ephemeral
sunbae
pzelda

[Visor]

I would entertain this thought experiment if you can convince me Dyas AtE and self vote is fake which is something I currently don’t believe. I believe the frustration was real

i dont remember this but i stopped readign d2 cause i was tilted at the mash

i suppose now is a good time to do so

[Visor]

i can totally believe dya trying to spew a partner v, let themself get bussed

they have to know they were dying a decent percentage of the time d1/d2

let me actually get to the posts before i make a comment but yeah

[Visor]

dont wait up for me to read this stuff fwiw

[ColonelLubriderm]

i can totally believe dya trying to spew a partner v, let themself get bussed

they have to know they were dying a decent percentage of the time d1/d2

let me actually get to the posts before i make a comment but yeah

The concept I understand. That’s not my issue.

It’s the fact that Dya would forever torch any goodwill any time in the future she is showing frustration in a game due to lack of time or constant pressuring. That’s what I can’t wrap my head around.

[ColonelLubriderm]

I could see manti doing that though

[ColonelLubriderm]

This thought exercise actually is useful though. Ignoring the AtE I liked esooa based on dya pushing them day 1 because I didn’t think it was 100% clear dya was getting got at that point but that might not necessarily be true

[Visor]

ara just keeps defending the wolves lol

~:shock:

[Visor]

reading through the dya self vote

its surprising that cuth has nothing to say to dya

eph/gh/hally all engage with dya

[Visor]

idk boss you're putting a conditional of dya w to look at gh and then talk yourself into not flipping dya

???

spicy

[Visor]

Vote: arapocalypse

[Visor]

Vote: Colonel

[Visor]

Visor
Hally
Manti
Manasi

Monty
Cuth
Colonel
Ara
Esooa

just gotta clear one more i guess

[Visor]

i suspect yall are gonna kill cuth

i'm not against the idea, but i am finding it hard to figure out where i stand this game

d2/d3 were basically nailed on immediately

i guess ill see what happens in the morning

[Visor]

i guess maybe doing a partnership analysis is a good idea?

maybe i'll do it overnight

[Cuthillius]

well

i stayed up until 3 am (again) for a variety of equally godforsaken reasons

i'm not hugely optimistic about the likelihood of me being able to string together sensible sentences multiple times in a row without dropping my paddle in the metaphorical river of thought

but we'll see when we get there

[Esooa]

how carefully did you read the games you hosted

my closest point of comparison is the one with tim where she coasted (very actively, mind you) in terms of actually personally exerting influence until she felt like she needed to clarify things and then did super deep and detailed dives/analysis

and like

the arc is vaguely similar here but it's been a bit

she feels a little distant and i think it could absolutely be environment and all but

yee

yeah

I can talk about how I generally play if it'd help but meh

Visor doesn't really care to talk to me at all I feel like which is annoying but I don't really care rn

[Esooa]

like, the days have been slow and the ISO/vote features not super easy to follow so I haven't read too much but I've also not felt the need to cause we've basically had a PoE I've felt mostly comfortable with

And we yeeted 2 wolves with it so I still haven't felt bad about it at all and generally feel like we're at a decent point still so I've been letting people who probably can read the game better than me do their thing

[Esooa]

vote: Monty

[Visor]

so i decided to take a look at that esooa wolfgame to see if she busses

vote history suggests so, having voted for all flipped partners at least

something ot think on i guess

not sure what i want to do with bop this game either

fun fun

[ColonelLubriderm]

since d3 i've wanted to do nothing but launch visor out a window but he can really only be a wolf with cuth/maple and i don't even think maple is a wolf. Even if cuth is a wolf i'd still kill manasi and ara first.

le sigh

[Esooa]

so i decided to take a look at that esooa wolfgame to see if she busses

vote history suggests so, having voted for all flipped partners at least

something ot think on i guess

not sure what i want to do with bop this game either

fun fun

what did you look at?

[Esooa]

since d3 i've wanted to do nothing but launch visor out a window but he can really only be a wolf with cuth/maple and i don't even think maple is a wolf. Even if cuth is a wolf i'd still kill manasi and ara first.

le sigh

what do you think of Cuth rn

[ColonelLubriderm]

what do you think of Cuth rn

wolfy

though i am open to going monte instead.

[Esooa]

wolfy

though i am open to going monte instead.

I'm decently conflicted cause I think his earlier days were pretty bad but I've felt like he's done a couple distinctly towny things today

I've posted a bit about them this page/last

Do you agree those are towny? Or has your read changed at all on him today?

[ColonelLubriderm]

since d3 i've wanted to do nothing but launch visor out a window but he can really only be a wolf with cuth/maple and i don't even think maple is a wolf. Even if cuth is a wolf i'd still kill manasi and ara first.

le sigh

this is a lie.

id definitely launch him before ara if cuth was a wolf

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm decently conflicted cause I think his earlier days were pretty bad but I've felt like he's done a couple distinctly towny things today

I've posted a bit about them this page/last

Do you agree those are towny? Or has your read changed at all on him today?

I actively disagree that they are towny if you are talking abotu the "get mad as a wolf." I don't read the daisy posts as anger, and if they are supposed to be anger, then how do I know it isn't faked anger. Didn't someone say previously that he doesnt get mad as a wolf? I actually think he said it previously which would mean that any anger read on him after that point is a non starter for me.

As for the rest of his posts

Anything after the post where he said "i'm going to try something i've always wanted to do(paraphrase" is irrelevant because it is by definition performance art. Is he a villager saying fuck it, a wolf throwing a hail mary, who knows. I'm not going to begin to parse it because i would justbe coinflipping(ie trying to read him off of it is guessing).

The one thing I do agree with that he posted is that monte's macro yesterday is pro wolf. But it doesn't make sense for a wolf to do unless maple is a wolf as well imo

[Esooa]

I actively disagree that they are towny if you are talking abotu the "get mad as a wolf." I don't read the daisy posts as anger, and if they are supposed to be anger, then how do I know it isn't faked anger. Didn't someone say previously that he doesnt get mad as a wolf? I actually think he said it previously which would mean that any anger read on him after that point is a non starter for me.

As for the rest of his posts

Anything after the post where he said "i'm going to try something i've always wanted to do(paraphrase" is irrelevant because it is by definition performance art. Is he a villager saying fuck it, a wolf throwing a hail mary, who knows. I'm not going to begin to parse it because i would justbe coinflipping(ie trying to read him off of it is guessing).

The one thing I do agree with that he posted is that monte's macro yesterday is pro wolf. But it doesn't make sense for a wolf to do unless maple is a wolf as well imo

for the first thing yea I mentioned that

Ig that makes sense for both points though

[Arapocalypse]

dude

i'm at the bottom of the poe

the game is a lot easier for me than it is for you

how many times to i have to explain

granted the part of this you can't see is my full and complete intention to actually follow through on solidifying reads and making sure it is what i think it is tomorrow, and if this was all i was going to do this phase your criticism would be fully justified

meh
I'm half-skim catching up because I don't have that much time here regardless, but wanted to pull this post out because that's pretty much exactly the sort of thought-stuff that both makes sense and can be somewhat difficult to replicate as mafia? Not entirely impossible, but he's essentially kept this up nonstop for several days now, which is factoring into that read!!!

Yes, still leaning Cuth town here; I guess his mafia range should probably be considered here though? To be fair, I don't remember seeing him as mafia for more than a day phase in the past year or two, and if anyone wants to talk about him doing this here as mafia then cool, but otherwise I still feel fairly comfortable about this, I suppose!!

[Arapocalypse]

my problem is not that i can’t find reasons to villa read cuth. i can

my problem is that the reasons i can come up with require me to level myself and/or are significantly weaker than the reasons i have to v read everyone else except maybe manasi, and at this stage of the game i don’t think i should have to level myself to find villagers. they should just... be villagery
Vote: Manasi

[Arapocalypse]

literally because i've wanted to do it for a long time and i think it's vaguely funny

and i will, though i don't know what you expect forward to be

you guys have been doing a good job so far, if i can get you to yeet the wolves in the poe instead of me that's a success in its own right by my standards for this game

i highly doubt my opinions are going to shift massively, i'm back to being pretty sure most of the reads i was doubting at the start of the day were correct

i've locked you in, esooa finally got around to being v!her, visor just doesn't make sense with dya i think, manti has actually been villagery and not just from posting more, manasi's barely been here, both of the flipped wolves were absolute wet blankets, i'm not happy with the way dya played d2 but i also recognize that it worked on me and i'm just kinda over that

there aren't that many smoking guns i could find if i wanted to based on how the game's played out so far
Why have you wanted to do that for a long time, and why now anyway?

[Esooa]

I felt like he was angry but if you and Hally disagree them alright I prob just read his posts wrong

I think Cuth wouldn't be consciously thinking about that kinda thing as wolf cause

1. He posted it like ~2 months ago (the thing I quoted)

2. He doesn't really seem to be trying much if he's wolf

So that's why I figured it would be towny

[Arapocalypse]

The concept I understand. That’s not my issue.

It’s the fact that Dya would forever torch any goodwill any time in the future she is showing frustration in a game due to lack of time or constant pressuring. That’s what I can’t wrap my head around.
Might be my brain not functioning, but I don't understand what you're saying here?

Are you still talking about the Esooa/dya read or ?

For what it's worth, I still feel fairly good about that; Visor missed a good chunk of Esooa's posts about dya? Might be the multi-quote limit, but there were a good few of them made either day 1 or early day 2 or both!! I think I quoted a few of them around SoD 3, as well!!!

In short, felt natural/genuine suspicion, especially with a certain really specific thing Esooa was onto dya about, that I can't remember the details for at the moment!!

[Arapocalypse]

since d3 i've wanted to do nothing but launch visor out a window but he can really only be a wolf with cuth/maple and i don't even think maple is a wolf. Even if cuth is a wolf i'd still kill manasi and ara first.

le sigh
What, am I forgetting something?

Also, isn't today day 4?

[Arapocalypse]

I'm trying to level 1 my reads more and not overthink things, as that seems to have been an issue in the past while; that being said...

Montmorency/Cuth are fairly similar as to where they are in my mind, at the moment? They're both in the PoE and have done objectively towny things; that being said...

Cuth is one that I feel more confident about? Not extremely confident in that I want to put him in my towncore, but enough that I lowkey want to fight for him not to die; part of this is due to me not actually feeling particularly iffy about... essentially any of his posts that I've read? However, not sure if I'd be able to pull together a solid case on that, so yeah; this is where it's at!!!!

Considering Montmorency... at the core of it, the read on him being towny at Logic's EoD is a TWTBAW read where I feel like him doing that there as mafia is just very ??? to do!!!! I think was Cuth that brought up that point which was essentially, what else is he going to do there, which... I was originally thinking was towny that he just went off on his own? A lot of it depends on how in tune with the thread he normally is, I guess, which I'm not particularly aware of!!

I recall seeing Visor talk about that briefly in the past while; the question is more, does Montmorency completely miss how Logic is essentially outed at EoD, as town? Or is he faking it as mafia?

Am I setting the bar too low for him to be missing it, as town?

[Visor]

I'm trying to level 1 my reads more and not overthink things, as that seems to have been an issue in the past while; that being said...

Montmorency/Cuth are fairly similar as to where they are in my mind, at the moment? They're both in the PoE and have done objectively towny things; that being said...

Cuth is one that I feel more confident about? Not extremely confident in that I want to put him in my towncore, but enough that I lowkey want to fight for him not to die; part of this is due to me not actually feeling particularly iffy about... essentially any of his posts that I've read? However, not sure if I'd be able to pull together a solid case on that, so yeah; this is where it's at!!!!

Considering Montmorency... at the core of it, the read on him being towny at Logic's EoD is a TWTBAW read where I feel like him doing that there as mafia is just very ??? to do!!!! I think was Cuth that brought up that point which was essentially, what else is he going to do there, which... I was originally thinking was towny that he just went off on his own? A lot of it depends on how in tune with the thread he normally is, I guess, which I'm not particularly aware of!!

I recall seeing Visor talk about that briefly in the past while; the question is more, does Montmorency completely miss how Logic is essentially outed at EoD, as town? Or is he faking it as mafia?

Am I setting the bar too low for him to be missing it, as town?

so you think monty and cuth are villagers


who are the wolves then?

[ColonelLubriderm]

What, am I forgetting something?

Also, isn't today day 4?

I meant what I typed since d3 started last saturday which is 5 real life days ago.

As for you forgetting, i am not claiming to be especially vocal about it. Just expressing frustration.

[ColonelLubriderm]

this is a lie.

id definitely launch him before ara if cuth was a wolf

i'm a liar again because im back to launching ara before visor in cuth wolf world

[ColonelLubriderm]

i'm a liar again because im back to launching ara before visor in cuth wolf world

What I think should happen:

We should yeet inside of cuth/monte

If the one we yeet is a villa we need to hope we have a full even vig and blast the other.

If we yeet a wolf I would blast manasi.

I still feel reasonably sure cuth/monte are not w/w but not as certain as I did at the start of day.

[Maple]

I'm considering policy lynching monty for the crime of choosing to not post today deliberately.

[Maple]

what happens if manasi 0 posts? lol

[Maple]

Here's the plan. I'm going to read tea leaves and lynch whichever shitter they divine.

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm considering policy lynching monty for the crime of choosing to not post today deliberately.

you missed the best post of the thread last night. telling us to better use our time by iso'ing logic

[Maple]

you missed the best post of the thread last night. telling us to better use our time by iso'ing logic

Yeah.

It's impressive that one could make me want them alive less in lylo than an actual 0 poster but that's what I currently feel lol

[ColonelLubriderm]

ima let ephemeral take the wheel

[ColonelLubriderm]

cuth posts leave something to be desired(heh heh heh)

logic exists, but in past tense so maybe just a wolf throwing in the towel? idk

monty feels like bait, I don't have a strong case to make here either way so /shrug, but the first word that comes to mind is definitely "bait"

I miss manasi

manti's doing stuff and I'm curious to see where it leads him, in a vacuum i still think his posts are more into his v range rather than w range but it's far from a lock, him choosing to dome monty doesn't particularly excite me atm and the stuff with dya is still there and it's pretty meh


bop is still fine imo


or, well

I think him choosing the "look at zelda's analysis saying nl bussed!" line is pretty bad considering the basis of the narrative is blatantly flawed

but other than that I think he's kinda solid so


because he could easily do it at almost no cost? he had the perfect setup to do it with his rask push from earlier that day, if he eventually got heat for it later itg it would've been easy to argue himself out of it as a result

This does get a bit weaker given that GH was telegraphing that he would vote to save dya ig, and from that point if nl had even only one other wolf who'd do the same thing then I suppose he could just chill on the dya wagon and be pretty safe that they wouldn't go over in that spot


wtf is that monty post lol


maybe

part of me is stuck on the "cuth would be doing more as a wolf here"

but that's also like, one of the dumbest reasons ever and I don't even know in what capacity(if any) it applies to him as a player in general so

reading ephemeral's last 10 posts, you could apply them to today

[ColonelLubriderm]

dude

i'm at the bottom of the poe

the game is a lot easier for me than it is for you

how many times to i have to explain

granted the part of this you can't see is my full and complete intention to actually follow through on solidifying reads and making sure it is what i think it is tomorrow, and if this was all i was going to do this phase your criticism would be fully justified

meh

waiting to see if/when this happens

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm having this discussion independent of Cuth's alignment.

At the end of the day, I will sheep as I see fit. If you want something to do, ISO Logic.

This is my favorite post

[Maple]

End of the day I bitched logic out of the game and I'm satisfied with that

[Cuthillius]

if there's anyone in this game who would tell logic to stop posting and then spend his entire day playing knowing that and making the most of it it'd be manti

seems unlikely but i thought about the possibility wrt monty and was like nah

[Maple]

if there's anyone in this game who would tell logic to stop posting and then spend his entire day playing knowing that and making the most of it it'd be manti

seems unlikely but i thought about the possibility wrt monty and was like nah

im more likely to tell him to hard distance me or to antispew with his words

source: read literally any game ive played where i've bussed teammates

[Cuthillius]

im more likely to tell him to hard distance me or to antispew with his words

source: read literally any game ive played where i've bussed teammates

i mean yes

but also

[Arapocalypse]

I've had a half-written post about Maple and Manasi for ages, and then accidentally refreshed and lost it; not typing that out again!!!

Short version: wanting to at least discuss them more due to that not really being a point of discussion, especially Manasi who hasn't actually been that much? Also something something Maple in LYLO!!

So, how have you guys been doing?

[Arapocalypse]

This is my favorite post
I missed that; that... is certainly a post!!!!

He's not really posting today, would be fine in italics!!

Something something mafia agenda thoughts!!!

[Maple]

I've had a half-written post about Maple and Manasi for ages, and then accidentally refreshed and lost it; not typing that out again!!!

Short version: wanting to at least discuss them more due to that not really being a point of discussion, especially Manasi who hasn't actually been that much? Also something something Maple in LYLO!!

So, how have you guys been doing?

What are you gonna do about it, lynch me today?

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #2882

2 Manasi (Hally, Arapocalypse)

1 ColonelLubriderm (Visor)
1 Hally (Maple)
1 Montmorency (Esooa)

Not Voting: ColonelLubriderm, Cuthillius, Manasi, Montmorency

thunderously calm

[ColonelLubriderm]

Official Tally as of #2882

2 Manasi (Hally, Arapocalypse)

1 ColonelLubriderm (Visor)
1 Hally (Maple)
1 Montmorency (Esooa)

Not Voting: ColonelLubriderm, Cuthillius, Manasi, Montmorency

thunderously calm

Vote: cuth

[ColonelLubriderm]

I think eliminating manasi is weak especially when there is a vigi shot in play

Though if we eliminate manasi and they flip villa vigi should always shoot ara

[ColonelLubriderm]

Because I don’t think from ara pov, there can be a ream of 2 unless it’s exactly in manasi/maple/visor and I don’t see it

[Arapocalypse]

if there's anyone in this game who would tell logic to stop posting and then spend his entire day playing knowing that and making the most of it it'd be manti

seems unlikely but i thought about the possibility wrt monty and was like nah
For what it's worth, I've seen Manti's mafia play a decent amount and pretty sure that's not really the sort of thing he'd advocate for!!

Think he'd tell Logic to at least have fun with it!!!

Also not taking this into account that much as I'm lowkey concerned about Logic possibly having dropped off the face of the planet or something!!

[Arapocalypse]

What are you gonna do about it, lynch me today?
Of course not; it's not LYLO!!!

[Maple]

For what it's worth, I've seen Manti's mafia play a decent amount and pretty sure that's not really the sort of thing he'd advocate for!!

Think he'd tell Logic to at least have fun with it!!!

Also not taking this into account that much as I'm lowkey concerned about Logic possibly having dropped off the face of the planet or something!!

logic [redacted] on [redacted] [redacted]

but like deny any and all derpclears on the matter for everyone

[Arapocalypse]

Because I don’t think from ara pov, there can be a ream of 2 unless it’s exactly in manasi/maple/visor and I don’t see it
Interesting; elaborate please?

Please note I haven't actually been thinking about this game significantly, and might have missed something obvious!!!

[ColonelLubriderm]

Interesting; elaborate please?

Please note I haven't actually been thinking about this game significantly, and might have missed something obvious!!!

If cuth/monty are villas. and hally is a villa, and you are a villa, and esooa is a villa and for this thought experiment lets assume i am a villa.

Who can be mafia?

[Arapocalypse]

Hey Manti!!!

What's good?

[Maple]

Hey Manti!!!

What's good?

im vibin drinking coffee

[Arapocalypse]

If cuth/monty are villas. and hally is a villa, and you are a villa, and esooa is a villa and for this thought experiment lets assume i am a villa.

Who can be mafia?
Oh, I thought you were trying to say something about associations... never mind then!!!

[Arapocalypse]

If you really want to go between Cuth/Montmorency, I would vote the latter today; still don't particularly want to vote Cuth here!!!

[Arapocalypse]

im vibin drinking coffee
I LITERALLY do not like people who say they need coffee to function. that makes you an addict, the same jacks who say that will sneer and look down their noses at somone who have an alcohol/gambling/drugs/whatever problem. If you need something to function, you're an addict. If you don't need it to function you're just someone who loves to make a scene and pretend coffee is your everything, you probably ruined bacon for people too with meme levels of glorification.

[ColonelLubriderm]

I LITERALLY do not like people who say they need coffee to function. that makes you an addict, the same jacks who say that will sneer and look down their noses at somone who have an alcohol/gambling/drugs/whatever problem. If you need something to function, you're an addict. If you don't need it to function you're just someone who loves to make a scene and pretend coffee is your everything, you probably ruined bacon for people too with meme levels of glorification.

well that escalated quickly

[Maple]

you should have replaced full stops with exclamation points imo

[Arapocalypse]

im vibin drinking coffee
I LITERALLY do not like people who say they need coffee to function!!!! that makes you an addict, the same jacks who say that will sneer and look down their noses at somone who have an alcohol/gambling/drugs/whatever problem!!!!!!!!!! If you need something to function, you're an addict!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't need it to function you're just someone who loves to make a scene and pretend coffee is your everything, you probably ruined bacon for people too with meme levels of glorification!!!!!!!

[Maple]

nice

[ColonelLubriderm]

I finally secured a ps5 after 3+ months of trying

i will literally sheep the next person who votes and do what they want.

I give no fucks about anything right now

[Maple]

nice

.

[Esooa]

nice

[Cuthillius]

i'll be real today isn't the greatest day my brain has ever experienced

i'm setting a timer for 1 hour

then i will be here

[Cuthillius]

vote: montmorency

[Cuthillius]

glad to hear about the ps5 man

hope you play some cool stuff on it

[ColonelLubriderm]

glad to hear about the ps5 man

hope you play some cool stuff on it

same. I'm especially looking forward to God of War 2 and the upcoming mass effect trilogy remaster.

[ColonelLubriderm]

I finally secured a ps5 after 3+ months of trying

i will literally sheep the next person who votes and do what they want.

I give no fucks about anything right now


vote: montmorency

vote: montmorenct

im a man of my word

[Esooa]

now I wish cuth voted bop

[ColonelLubriderm]

now I wish cuth voted bop

i was fully prepared to sheep someone onto myself

[Arapocalypse]

Congrats Bop!!!!

[ColonelLubriderm]

I am now going to go eat some chicken wings.

[Arapocalypse]

Hey Bop, why do you think you're still alive, anyway?

[ColonelLubriderm]

Hey Bop, why do you think you're still alive, anyway?

Because I voted csargo day 1

[Maple]

Because I voted csargo day 1

same

[Visor]

so we seem to have cuth ' the wolves are obvious'

and monty 'i not here so i get fined'

[ColonelLubriderm]

so we seem to have cuth ' the wolves are obvious'

and monty 'i not here so i get fined'

Ayup

[Maple]

so we seem to have cuth ' the wolves are obvious'

and monty 'i not here so i get fined'

im emotionally preparing myself for 0/2

[Arapocalypse]

Because I voted csargo day 1
What, really?

[ColonelLubriderm]

What, really?

Yes.

[Visor]

the dyachei self vote stuff isnt really directly after the esooa stuff from what i could tell bop

(more after epehemeral pushed them iirc?)

Vote: Cuth

shrug.emoticon

[Arapocalypse]

General question: as mafia, have you ever actually taken into account where someone is on the EoD wagon, when deciding in the nightkill?

I honestly do not think I ever have, except maybe the rare endgame scenario (and only in turbos at that), and haven't actually seen that happen in mafia chats... hence I've never really understood why people always say that in games as a thing!!!!!

[Maple]

dya all capped at manasi, and after said that they thought it was esooa posting

it was a deliberate use of caps

does this mean anything? who knows

[Maple]

General question: as mafia, have you ever actually taken into account where someone is on the EoD wagon, when deciding in the nightkill?

I honestly do not think I ever have, except maybe the rare endgame scenario (and only in turbos at that), and haven't actually seen that happen in mafia chats... hence I've never really understood why people always say that in games as a thing!!!!!

if you don't youre playing wrong

[Visor]

General question: as mafia, have you ever actually taken into account where someone is on the EoD wagon, when deciding in the nightkill?

I honestly do not think I ever have, except maybe the rare endgame scenario (and only in turbos at that), and haven't actually seen that happen in mafia chats... hence I've never really understood why people always say that in games as a thing!!!!!

yes (usually earlygame)

its not necessarily a major factor but it counts

[Visor]

still think esooooooooooooooa can be a wolf

[Cuthillius]

it has been an hour

[Maple]

still think esooooooooooooooa can be a wolf

i do too

except

ya know

[ColonelLubriderm]

the dyachei self vote stuff isnt really directly after the esooa stuff from what i could tell bop

(more after epehemeral pushed them iirc?)

Vote: Cuth

shrug.emoticon

I seem to hav3 a different recollection

Put esooa back on the table

[Maple]

fellas

we gonna kill monty and cuth

wolves are gonna kill like

hally + 1

and the rest of us are gonna be thrown into double lylo

what do

[Visor]

alternatively ara is a wolf and we've beeen letting her vote villagers and get away with it

[Visor]

vote: dyachei

this game is a disappointment for everyone when looking at me so why not just get it over with

yeah click through and look at the timing

esooa hadnt posted for hours

it was ephemeral/gh/hally

(now im sure esooa could have contributed to that but im not sure its the case)

[ColonelLubriderm]

Vote: arapocalypse

[ColonelLubriderm]

yeah click through and look at the timing

esooa hadnt posted for hours

it was ephemeral/gh/hally

(now im sure esooa could have contributed to that but im not sure its the case)

Maybe I confused esooa and hally. Weird.

[Esooa]

General question: as mafia, have you ever actually taken into account where someone is on the EoD wagon, when deciding in the nightkill?

I honestly do not think I ever have, except maybe the rare endgame scenario (and only in turbos at that), and haven't actually seen that happen in mafia chats... hence I've never really understood why people always say that in games as a thing!!!!!

I do lol

[ColonelLubriderm]

Maybe I confused esooa and hally. Weird.

I definitely remember passionately thinking they were not w/w

[Maple]

I'm almost certainly staying on target here

[Visor]

I definitely remember passionately thinking they were not w/w

dya and esooa DO have an argument somewhat prior to that

idk if its not w/w but it exists fwiw

[ColonelLubriderm]

I'm almost certainly staying on target here

Sounds good

[Maple]

anything on dya's end can go either way

more of how people treat them than the inverse

[Visor]

Vote: arapocalypse

[Visor]

cuth where areeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you

[Cuthillius]

kay noh shrine

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #2943

2 Arapocalypse (ColonelLubriderm, Visor)
2 Manasi (Hally, Arapocalypse)
2 Montmorency (Esooa, Cuthillius)

1 Hally (Maple)

Not Voting: Manasi, Montmorency

thunderously calm

[Cuthillius]

wait

that's the course you're staying?

what

[Visor]

Vote: Cuth

[Maple]

speaking of hally, i wonder where they are

[Visor]

cookiemonsterwaiting.gif

Vote: esooa

[ColonelLubriderm]

I bet you didn’t even iso logic

[Cuthillius]

I bet you didn’t even iso logic

i did

and i know you probably don't want to hear this

but after looking over his posts i think there's a chance he's a villager here

[Visor]

vote: cuth

sorry not sorry zack

prob gonna do something else unless this gets active

gl

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote: cuth

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote: cuth

sorry not sorry zack

prob gonna do something else unless this gets active

gl

I’m killing time til 4 hours from now and I can watch people play dungeons and dragons

[Visor]

I think are almost always villagers
Hally, Ara

I am pretty sure they are villagers but they have some skepticism on them so I'll keep an eye on it
pZelda, Colonel, GH

Gut says V but I'm not confident in it
Esooa, Dya, Mont, Ephem, Cuth

Others feel good about but I'm skeptical of for a few reasons
Visor, Dolby

Few reasons to scumreads
Maple, Ampharos, Csargo

In this game
Manasi

they def didnt kill sunbae because he was right on manasi (i mean he couldve been but it wouldnt be why they killed him)

amp casargo both v

pzelda gh, ephem all v

dolby dya w

is manti a woooooooooooooolf?

[Visor]

tbf idk why manti would kill sunbae in this scenario

doc dodging? maybe they wanted to kill hally? but they didnt kill hally for days

but pzelda was a pr, so maybe manti is a wolf

shrug!

[ColonelLubriderm]

Sunbae killed because they’re sunbae imo

[Cuthillius]

hm

why am i this way

probably from playing too much mafia

the last time i was really in the zone was mid december

[Visor]

Sunbae killed because they’re sunbae imo

i guess but im not sure why you kill sunbae here when he is v reading dya and only kinda pushing dolby

its gotta be a person not in those two who want sunbae dead maybe

(i guess i would expect dya to push it?)

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #2958

2 Cuthillius (Visor, ColonelLubriderm)
2 Manasi (Hally, Arapocalypse)
2 Montmorency (Esooa, Cuthillius)

1 Hally (Maple)

Not Voting: Manasi, Montmorency

thunderously calm

[Visor]

read list cuth?

whats your ordering here?

[Visor]

inb4 wolf team is just manasi and monty lol

[Montmorency]

I will say that I have been feeling somewhat better about CL's prospects over the past day.


i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic

It's up to you.


I'm considering policy lynching monty for the crime of choosing to not post today deliberately.

I posted enough, hoss. You're not in Minimum-50-post-sas anymore.


im more likely to tell him to hard distance me or to antispew with his words

source: read literally any game ive played where i've bussed teammates

How do you know he didn't? Oh yeah, because people need to ISO Logic.


i was fully prepared to sheep someone onto myself

Not even I would go that far.


so we seem to have cuth ' the wolves are obvious'

and monty 'i not here so i get fined'

I don't understand that attribution.

Who should I sheep you onto? I have a hard time following all your pushes!

Vote: Ara

[Visor]

why are you sheeping me

i had strong reads

i dont anymore

sheep yourself

[Cuthillius]

eph is not a me kill

i'd probably personally kill you before sunbae, and likely bop too; while he's a very good player and probably very intimidating to wolf against he's neither quite as reliably obstinate in the most annoying of ways and has a lot less experience with me/doesn't know how i think as well as you

who even died n2

i would never kill capage in a million years and that's a fact

he didn't even seem pr-ish from what i remember

sunbae is maybe arguable in that i'd convince a teammate to go for spk instead of a weak pr hunt

the others don't fit your picture at all and i would have a) already killed you but also b) just kept killing scary people regardless of what you said, not two straight low-impact people

i legit was going to look back at eph for the way he pushed gh because i had Concerns about them but then that pairing just resolved itself and we moved on

granted maybe they said pr-like things, but hell if i noticed

[ColonelLubriderm]

why are you sheeping me

i had strong reads

i dont anymore

sheep yourself

Sheep me bbygrl

[Visor]

Vote: Maple

[Montmorency]

why are you sheeping me

i had strong reads

i dont anymore

sheep yourself

What were your strong reads? Haven't they all been ~

[Cuthillius]

very high confidence:

you, for both behavior and flips
hally, for behavior

almost as high confidence:

bop, for behavior
ara, for behavior

villagery for very specific/somewhat limited sections of behavior:

esooa
manti

why isn't she playing this game:

manasi

probably just a wolf for behavior and the way he's played today/yesterday:

monty

[Esooa]

why are you voting Ara, Monty?

[Montmorency]

why are you voting Ara, Monty?

It's the latest thing Visor wanted.

[Visor]

What were your strong reads? Haven't they all been ~

amy and dya d1 (and dya d2) and logic on d3

(and gh on d2)

[Visor]

Vote: Esooa

cuth, monty, lettuce form voltron

[Cuthillius]

mmhhh

[Esooa]

It's the latest thing Visor wanted.

why are you sheeping him? What do you think of Manti?

[Montmorency]

Vote: Esooa

cuth, monty, lettuce form voltron

But esooa is the other person I wanted to sheep.

Don't you like her wagon positioning?


why are you sheeping him? What do you think of Manti?

Never liked the guy.

[Visor]

kill esooa

all questions

[Esooa]

feel weird about how Monty largely dropped the Manti push

[Esooa]

kill esooa

all questions

I'd ask some if you weren't inclined to ignore everything I've asked you this game

[ColonelLubriderm]

Visor really doesn’t want cuth monte to be eliminated

[Visor]

I'd ask some if you weren't inclined to ignore everything I've asked you this game

i ignore 80% of all question posed to me

especially in mentions

[Visor]

Visor really doesn’t want cuth monte to be eliminated

thats ara

[ColonelLubriderm]

I only respond to GeneralHankerchief mentions

[ColonelLubriderm]

thats ara

Yeah, weird auto dorrec5 error on ipad

[Maple]

tbf idk why manti would kill sunbae in this scenario

doc dodging? maybe they wanted to kill hally? but they didnt kill hally for days

but pzelda was a pr, so maybe manti is a wolf

shrug!

a pr died in the night, manti might be a wolf

shrug!

[Montmorency]

feel weird about how Monty largely dropped the Manti push

I notice it's one of Visor's latest votes. Are you offering alliance?

Vote: Maple

[Esooa]

I notice it's one of Visor's latest votes. Are you offering alliance?

Vote: Maple

what do you think about the fact you're Cuthalions only wolf read

[Maple]

vote: Maple

this game is a disappointment for everyone when looking at me so why not just get it over with

[ColonelLubriderm]

Guys, this is not the accepted maple plan

[Montmorency]

what do you think about the fact you're Cuthalions only wolf read

Unfortunately, I have the sense we might be aligned. Acceptable vig target among the set of targets a vig, if one of those even exists, might be expected to select from here.


vote: Maple

this game is a disappointment for everyone when looking at me so why not just get it over with

You're not a disappointment, just untrustworthy. I won't be staying on you if you're self-voting though.

[Maple]

people aren't trying to read what I'm doing, they're assuming activity tells are ever AI for me

[Esooa]

Unfortunately, I have the sense we might be aligned. Acceptable vig target among the set of targets a vig, if one of those even exists, might be expected to select from here.


can you explain?

[Visor]

lettuce

kill

esooa

(or monty or cuth)

[Esooa]

lettuce

kill

esooa


nah

[ColonelLubriderm]

lettuce

kill

esooa

(or monty or cuth)

Trade esooa for ara and I’m in

[Montmorency]

can you explain?

Not really. I don't have good ideas.

One mechanical note I can make is that I'm not a fan in abstract of the idea that there were 2/3 mafia on final Rask wagon D1.


lettuce

kill

esooa

(or monty or cuth)

Or Ara or Maple? Speaking of which, what did you think of Hally and CL?

[Esooa]

Not really. I don't have good ideas.

One mechanical note I can make is that I'm not a fan in abstract of the idea that there were 2/3 mafia on final Rask wagon D1.


why not? There's 4 mafia. Something like 2 Csargo 0 dya 2 Raskol doesn't seem that improbable to me.

[Maple]

I dont even know. people are just talking about and at me though, not to me. And it sucks to be told what a disappointment I am over and over again

[Visor]

7 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, Hally, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, ColonelLubriderm, Maple)

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, Dolby)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

perhaps you're right monty

what on earth were the wolves doing if cuth is a wolf

[Visor]

why not? There's 4 mafia. Something like 2 Csargo 0 dya 2 Raskol doesn't seem that improbable to me.

2 wolves sitting off wagon on the same wagon while their bro gets run up?

not even on the counter?

dya wasnt there at eod so thats their excuse, dolby idr

[Maple]

7 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, Hally, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, ColonelLubriderm, Maple)

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, Dolby)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

perhaps you're right monty

what on earth were the wolves doing if cuth is a wolf

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