Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[ColonelLubriderm]

Legacy read:

regardless of dya alignment don't kill GH

if dya wolf you can kill cuth though

esooa prob not with dya if dya wolf

GH/montecorenot probably not together.

ephemeral dropped off today but i liked the things he said. make him not drop off as much

poison dobby

Legacy was goat

[Arapocalypse]

As a note, yes I don't think Cuth is necessarily the way to go today!!!

Will update once I'm through, still just going through day 1 at the moment!!

[Visor]

the question is, if cuth is a wolf, who is fourth?

manasi? if not manasi, who?

[Esooa]

what's up gang

[ColonelLubriderm]

the question is, if cuth is a wolf, who is fourth?

manasi? if not manasi, who?

Easy world: 2 in monte,cuth,manasi

Harder world: 1 in above and 1 in visor maple

Hardest: 1 in hally/ara

[Arapocalypse]

As an aside, I hope Logic is okay and hasn't literally died or something; just feels very ??? for him to not post practically at all like that!

[Arapocalypse]

Legacy was goat
Why do you think you're still alive, then?

[Esooa]

agreeing with monty being wrong enough he's not a wolf

logic not posting = scum monty doesn't try to save him like that

also I'm town reading visor more now. I realized in past town games I've played with him I've been a lot more vocal and had stronger reads so I think my meekness is putting him off? I'm less bothered by his read on me regardless

also would like to say I just finished a wolf game I was mega try Harding in earlier so I'll be here more n.n

[Arapocalypse]

what's up gang
Game feels either very easy or very difficult; not entirely sure which!!!

Where are you at?

[Esooa]

you don't know how hard i'd pop off if monty got killed in the night and flipped vt

not sure what you mean by this

what's your read on monty rn?

[Esooa]

Game feels either very easy or very difficult; not entirely sure which!!!

Where are you at?

honestly I mostly want people to ask me to link the wolf game that just finished so I can be like "look at it I did so well"

monty still is town, I like visor more and his posts just barely about thinking the same re: monty, still not sure about manti though. Gonna read more when I get home from work but manti/cuth are my primary focuses

[Maple]

not sure what you mean by this

what's your read on monty rn?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/482061866164551682/705119318672932904/unknown.gif

[Maple]

did wolves shoot gh?

maybe the kill was randed wpwee

[Arapocalypse]

agreeing with monty being wrong enough he's not a wolf

logic not posting = scum monty doesn't try to save him like that

also I'm town reading visor more now. I realized in past town games I've played with him I've been a lot more vocal and had stronger reads so I think my meekness is putting him off? I'm less bothered by his read on me regardless

also would like to say I just finished a wolf game I was mega try Harding in earlier so I'll be here more n.n
I would agree, though Montmorency wasn't quite trying to save him more just doing this thunderdome with Maple that was half-joking on Maple's end, which is not something that a partner tends to do in that situation... felt town in general, anyways!! Though will be interesting to see how today goes for him, read-wise!!!

Not really sure what you mean about Visor there; were you previously only bothered about his read on you? Or what changed?

Oh sweet, congratulations!!!

[Arapocalypse]

honestly I mostly want people to ask me to link the wolf game that just finished so I can be like "look at it I did so well"

monty still is town, I like visor more and his posts just barely about thinking the same re: monty, still not sure about manti though. Gonna read more when I get home from work but manti/cuth are my primary focuses
Link the wolf game that you just finished!!!!! How'd it go?

[Maple]

i deleted the post i was writing about setup sepc

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m still riding with the plan I laid out in the spoilered post yesterday

[Maple]

I’m still riding with the plan I laid out in the spoilered post yesterday

i probably didnt read it so im in suspense

[Maple]

guys wouldnt it be funny if

cuth tried to 1v1 me?

blush

[Cuthillius]

guys wouldnt it be funny if

cuth tried to 1v1 me?

blush

don't really want to

i think you're v

[Arapocalypse]

I’m still riding with the plan I laid out in the spoilered post yesterday
What plan was that?

Either I've forgotten or I didn't notice the spoiler!!

[Arapocalypse]

guys wouldnt it be funny if

cuth tried to 1v1 me?

blush
OwO?

[Maple]

darn it would have been convenient to have someone out pensive

[Arapocalypse]

don't really want to

i think you're v
Hi Cuth!!!

Why?

Where do you want to go today?

[ColonelLubriderm]

The "amusingly self-deprecating" tier:

Cuthillius

The "seems very villagery and if so will be painfully obvious by EoD2 at the latest" tier:

Esooa
Hally
Sunbae

The "feel familiarly villagery in a way that makes me happy but isn't actually very coherent in my mind" tier:

Arapocalypse
Ephemeral

The "makes me question if I have a microchip implanted in my mind to sponge thoughts from my future self so he can pocket me" tier:

Visor

The "my friends are v-reading him so I feel like I should too" tier:

Dolby

The "if they're wolves they're doing a great job of hiding it, but the same applies to them if v" tier:

Csargo
Montmorency
pzelda
Manasi
ColonelLubriderm
dyachei
Maple

The "prepare to be spitroasted" tier:

GeneralHankerchief
Ampharos


turning over gh/dya in my mind

i think both of them have had distinctly villagery notes today, but i don't love love either of those but i think there's a good enough chance that either one is v that i'd rather go elsewhere today question mark pending certain people being in thread

monty looks absolutely terrible if they're both villagers, thus my vote there, i think specifically pzelda making the first post about dya being an outed wolf early on d1 and also dunking on gh is probably a fairly good look regardless of gh/dya alignments

don't think the wolves are taking quite as much advantage of town blehness as they could, but maybe that's because we're not on the right tracks and don't have to yet?

which would give me a bit of hope for our chances after we get A Flip

there's a big block of what do with manasi/manti/colonel/dolby

and unless there are at least two wolves in there idk what's going on with this game maybe if gh/dya not w/w

i feel like there was a fairly considerable swing of momentum onto specifically that world today, and i don't think the people like actively championing it are as much to blame as the people who treated it as a sort of implicit assumption

idk


my poe looks something like [colonel/monty] + [manti/manasi/dolby/eph?/visor??] at this particular instant in time

This is what came up when I did a search of Dolby in cuth posts.

Also dya take is not good in the second to last quote

[Arapocalypse]

Ara is giving me specifically lms vibes and I don't understand it
What does lms mean anyway?

[Cuthillius]

Hi Cuth!!!

Why?

Where do you want to go today?

i will talk tomorrow

probably monty though i don't think anything's changed and i don't know what on earth you expect the wolves to do when they're all at the bottom of the poe on d3 lol

[Arapocalypse]

Not going to lie, feels like you're confbiasing there Bop!!!

Dolby was townread by quite a few people early on in the game, both of us included!!

[ColonelLubriderm]

i will talk tomorrow

probably monty though i don't think anything's changed and i don't know what on earth you expect the wolves to do when they're all at the bottom of the poe on d3 lol

Who are the other wolves in the bottom of the PoE yesterday

[ColonelLubriderm]

Not going to lie, feels like you're confbiasing there Bop!!!

Dolby was townread by quite a few people early on in the game, both of us included!!

I’m saying the lack of mention at all is odd

[Esooa]

Link the wolf game that you just finished!!!!! How'd it go?

oh it went terribly but I did really well so lol

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29813-OPEN-WORLD-1-0

[Arapocalypse]

i will talk tomorrow

probably monty though i don't think anything's changed and i don't know what on earth you expect the wolves to do when they're all at the bottom of the poe on d3 lol
Huh, okay; what did you think of his posting yesterday, in that case?

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m saying the lack of mention at all is odd

Not what he was reading him

[Arapocalypse]

I’m saying the lack of mention at all is odd
I mean... okay? Sure maybe, I'm just not really getting what you're seeing there I guess!!!

[Visor]

wheres your head at ara

[Arapocalypse]

oh it went terribly but I did really well so lol

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29813-OPEN-WORLD-1-0
Oh that game!!!! I followed a bit of day 1 for reasons; non-rand type games tend to have their own set of challenges that can be difficult to handle!!

Still, nice!!!!

[Visor]

Montmorency

so, logic flipped w?

[ColonelLubriderm]

I mean... okay? Sure maybe, I'm just not really getting what you're seeing there I guess!!!

I’m not seeing what you see villagy there.

I don’t think he’s at all considering peoples alignments

I think he’s throwing spaghetti against the wall about what he thinks is wolfy without putting names to it unless you hold his feet to the fire(specifically about me+ monte day 2j

And I think he took yesterday off because he’s not a villager and didn’t have to pretend to solve the game because logic no showed

[Arapocalypse]

wheres your head at ara
Currently bouncing between distracted by the thread/other things and trying to skim/read day 1!!!

So the reason I first started reading day 1 is that I distinctly remember a certain period of posts where people said they disliked Dolby (or didn't townread him or something) on account of his meta, but I can't remember who or when it was exactly... so I figured I'd just go through day 1 to find it!!

Did this actually happen or was that my imagination? If so, does anyone happen to remember around when it was?

If not then that's fine; I'm probably still looking through day 1 anyway, this is interesting!!!

[ColonelLubriderm]

Currently bouncing between distracted by the thread/other things and trying to skim/read day 1!!!

So the reason I first started reading day 1 is that I distinctly remember a certain period of posts where people said they disliked Dolby (or didn't townread him or something) on account of his meta, but I can't remember who or when it was exactly... so I figured I'd just go through day 1 to find it!!

Did this actually happen or was that my imagination? If so, does anyone happen to remember around when it was?

If not then that's fine; I'm probably still looking through day 1 anyway, this is interesting!!!

Yes, start of dayi think, unsure when specifically but I’d say first 6 hours

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m not seeing what you see villagy there.

I don’t think he’s at all considering peoples alignments

I think he’s throwing spaghetti against the wall about what he thinks is wolfy without putting names to it unless you hold his feet to the fire(specifically about me+ monte day 2j

And I think he took yesterday off because he’s not a villager and didn’t have to pretend to solve the game because logic no showed

Note , the highlighted bold is in reference to cuth as a whole, not the quoted posts

[Maple]

What does lms mean anyway?

last man standing

[Manasi]

good job pals you got logic while i was god knows where

[ColonelLubriderm]

good job pals you got logic while i was god knows where

Couldn’t have done it without you.

[Arapocalypse]

I’m not seeing what you see villagy there.

I don’t think he’s at all considering peoples alignments

I think he’s throwing spaghetti against the wall about what he thinks is wolfy without putting names to it unless you hold his feet to the fire(specifically about me+ monte day 2j

And I think he took yesterday off because he’s not a villager and didn’t have to pretend to solve the game because logic no showed
Oh, okay; to be specific, the posts you quoted I just didn't feel that strongly about either way, and felt like calling them wolfy was more confbias than anything!!

For Cuth in general though, I feel like sure he hasn't really approached the game in the same manner that many others here have, but still have liked the takes which he's actually give/sort of macro-level reads; guess it's fair to say that the read's a bit stale though!!!

Though considering it further, think part of it is subconsciously feeling like it's fairly different to when I've seen him as mafia recently, though that was only a day in team game!!

Which... to be fair, not sure what else I'd have expected him to do there yesterday as mafia!!!

[Arapocalypse]

Yes, start of dayi think, unsure when specifically but I’d say first 6 hours
What?! That's similar to what I thought too, but I'm 700+ posts in and still haven't come across it!!!

Or maybe I missed it?

If anyone happens to have the time, want to try and find it?

[Arapocalypse]

good job pals you got logic while i was god knows where
Hey Manasi!!!

How's it going/where are you at?

[Arapocalypse]

Actually going to finish this later tonight, trying to do too many things; I will return in a number of hours!!!

[Cuthillius]

Who are the other wolves in the bottom of the PoE yesterday

what is the point of this question

this question is worse than pointless

look at the poe

the poe is literally me, essoa, and the three people whose names start with an m

95% of the time the last two wolves are in that group, because everyone else has been leaps and BOUNDS more villagery than anyone in that pool

[ColonelLubriderm]

what is the point of this question

this question is worse than pointless

look at the poe

the poe is literally me, essoa, and the three people whose names start with an m

95% of the time the last two wolves are in that group, because everyone else has been leaps and BOUNDS more villagery than anyone in that pool

Esooa not In That pool,

And it’s me cheekily saying you know who the wolves are. Not a real question

[Cuthillius]

Esooa not In That pool,

And it’s me cheekily saying you know who the wolves are. Not a real question

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

[ColonelLubriderm]

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

This is the most ridiculous thing in the thread by far.

This is clearly a petunia game

[Cuthillius]

also i don't mean tryhard as in like owo expectations i feel like i have to tryhard

i'm just saying i've been chronically underengaged in mafia games recently most of the time and ended up just sort of being there and letting other people do stuff as long as it seems good

and then the wolves push me because they can and i'm in the poe because i never get to where i want to be and then i'm like i get why you think i'm a wolf but like this isn't a broad poe and then people say you suck what are you doing saying you're fairly confident on the wolves

and sure i get it but it's old and the logic is not exactly hard to grasp

[ColonelLubriderm]

ironically i am not at all confident its as easy as monte/manasi/maple

but here's to hoping im wrong

[ColonelLubriderm]

ironically i don't know how to properly use the word ironically

[Visor]

so who are die wolves cuth

and villas i guess

[Maple]

I'm in the PoE but I'm not like in the PoE

People have just silently agreed to kill me on d6 pray

[Cuthillius]

so who are die wolves cuth

and villas i guess

tomorrow morning!

[Montmorency]

Alas, with suspects piling onto Logic like that I was never going to see the push as legitimate. My revised judgement leaves me just as pessimistic as before, but I'm not even going to share it, as it might do more harm than good to air it.

So yeah, do whatever guys, I'm on snooze. I am aware that my lassitude will be a detriment to Town if it derails the day, but I'm bone-drained from yesterday's hysteria. Apologies for the way I carried on.

In my unwinding I'll remind you of sensible, non-controversial organizing principles:

1. Consider D1 Rask wagon tapped out in many worlds
2. Assess risk of 1 deep in D1 dyach wagon
3. Make locating (if not ousting) the at-least-one on the D1 Csargo wagon a priority

gl

https://i.imgur.com/jJmiG2h.gif



every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

also i don't mean tryhard as in like owo expectations i feel like i have to tryhard

i'm just saying i've been chronically underengaged in mafia games recently most of the time and ended up just sort of being there and letting other people do stuff as long as it seems good

and then the wolves push me because they can and i'm in the poe because i never get to where i want to be and then i'm like i get why you think i'm a wolf but like this isn't a broad poe and then people say you suck what are you doing saying you're fairly confident on the wolves

and sure i get it but it's old and the logic is not exactly hard to grasp

I feel you more than you know, but that D2 case was crud regardless.

[ColonelLubriderm]

THings that I currently believe:

monte/maple are not w/w.

ara/visor not w/w

Esooa is a V

Cuth/monte are not w/w.

Manti is more villagy than wolfy.

If there is a wolf on csargo it is in hally/monte/ara.

I am currenty villa reading Ara for two terrible reasons that i'm probably not gonna re-evaluate today if ever.

-----------------------

Things that I hope:

Visor/manasi are villas(Dya d1 wagon)

manti is a villa

-----------------------
PoE based on hopes

1 in cuth/monte
1 in ara/hally

Hope i'm most likely wrong about:
Dya d1 wagon is all villas

[ColonelLubriderm]

I am not currently ready to chase after my hopes

[Cuthillius]

it wasn't a case lol

you were just objectively wolfy and then people kept asking me to explain a silly read assuming the two people we were gonna have to flip soon regardless of alignment were v

[Montmorency]

I am not currently ready to chase after my hopes

heh


it wasn't a case lol

you were just objectively wolfy and then people kept asking me to explain a silly read assuming the two people we were gonna have to flip soon regardless of alignment were v

*sigh*

Your read, your conceptualization, whatever.

Just know that if you're town, Town losing won't be your fault but mine.

[ColonelLubriderm]

If we have a full even vig:

if they holster we have three eliminations

If they don't we have 2 and their shot

[Montmorency]

If we have a full even vig:

if they holster we have three eliminations

If they don't we have 2 and their shot

Always no-lim (NL) for one round if vig kills town tonight. It's a no-brainer play so I'm comfortable advocating it.

[Esooa]

I would agree, though Montmorency wasn't quite trying to save him more just doing this thunderdome with Maple that was half-joking on Maple's end, which is not something that a partner tends to do in that situation... felt town in general, anyways!! Though will be interesting to see how today goes for him, read-wise!!!

Not really sure what you mean about Visor there; were you previously only bothered about his read on you? Or what changed?

Oh sweet, congratulations!!!

it was something I very much didn't like

Other than that I liked his handling of Logic

[Esooa]

Not going to lie, feels like you're confbiasing there Bop!!!

Dolby was townread by quite a few people early on in the game, both of us included!!

conf biasing where?

[Visor]

is it possible that hally is a wolf who has just seen where teh writing on the wall is regardling logic/dya and then pushed them after theyve got a bit of heat?

maybe its worth looking at hallys pushes prior to dya/dolby getting some actual heat?

(mostly tinfoil here but i figure why not?)

[Esooa]

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated


also i don't mean tryhard as in like owo expectations i feel like i have to tryhard

i'm just saying i've been chronically underengaged in mafia games recently most of the time and ended up just sort of being there and letting other people do stuff as long as it seems good

and then the wolves push me because they can and i'm in the poe because i never get to where i want to be and then i'm like i get why you think i'm a wolf but like this isn't a broad poe and then people say you suck what are you doing saying you're fairly confident on the wolves

and sure i get it but it's old and the logic is not exactly hard to grasp

feel a little bit weird about these posts

I remembered a post from him a while ago reading them

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which may have been the case but honestly his annoyance here feels kinda overblown which makes me think he's trying to fake that

thoughts on them?

[Visor]

Vote: Hally

:boxedin:

[Esooa]

is it possible that hally is a wolf who has just seen where teh writing on the wall is regardling logic/dya and then pushed them after theyve got a bit of heat?

maybe its worth looking at hallys pushes prior to dya/dolby getting some actual heat?

(mostly tinfoil here but i figure why not?)

it's possible, both of them were very bussable regardless with how they were playing, but I think Hally has been very towny irrespective of her pushes onto wolves

[Esooa]

interested in why Bop is saying 1 in Hally/Ara

I think both of them are very likely town, less sure about Ara because I have less experience with her but I've felt good about ~everything she's posted

[Esooa]

I like how Manasi has less posts in this thread than Zack lol

[Visor]

tier list, esooa? wheres your head at

[Esooa]

roughly where im at.

and the 1 over the top section doesnt mean 0-1, it means i think one is a wolf but im not gonna worry about it today

oh, Bop was saying 1 in Visor/Hally/Ara previously too lol

Any specific reason why you're thinking so?

[Esooa]

I reread some SoD2 stuff to see who brought up the Logic mentioning GH god read stuff and I'm pretty sure now Manti is town

[Esooa]

tier list, esooa? wheres your head at

Hally
Arapocalypse
Maple
ColonelLubriderm
Visor
Montmorency
Manasi
Cuthillius

Not too sure how to sort the people on the top cause I'm currently feeling pretty reasonably everyone down to Bop is town and Visor/Monty I still feel like are which makes me worried I'm probably misreading someone so looking over that today is good

Unless it's exactly Manasi/Cuth lol

A little surprised at Monty being so low but ehhhhhhhhh he doesn't really feel like he should be higher

[Esooa]

I disagree, I don't think there's been a general consensus to any degree approaching that of rocks; while individual people have said they think all the wolves are within a specific pool I haven't gotten the impression that there are many people who are general blind spots or that people's reads are lining up to an unusual or unhealthy degree.

The village read I'm most uncertain about is probably Eph, because I think he deserves more credit than he gets for his play, but I have a lot of people who are still fairly unsorted and I don't think I've really forced myself to come to any conclusions consciously or subconsciously this game so I'm both pretty happy with where I'm at in terms of town reads and think there's plenty of wiggle room.

very wolfy post

[Esooa]

vote: Raskolnikov


Official Tally as of #1068

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)
2 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius)

1 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Maple (Esooa)

Not Voting: Maple

thunderously calm

Cuth has posted basically nothing on Csargo at this point, and can definitely justify a vote on him at this point. He's expressed not liking Ampharos (Raskol slot) a decent amount, so I think voting here an hour before EoD while Dya is tied looks good for him

[Esooa]

Still like Eph, think Esooa's like 75% to me locking her in but hasn't quite gotten to the depth I'd look for.

:stars:

[Esooa]

turning over gh/dya in my mind

i think both of them have had distinctly villagery notes today, but i don't love love either of those but i think there's a good enough chance that either one is v that i'd rather go elsewhere today question mark pending certain people being in thread

monty looks absolutely terrible if they're both villagers, thus my vote there, i think specifically pzelda making the first post about dya being an outed wolf early on d1 and also dunking on gh is probably a fairly good look regardless of gh/dya alignments

don't think the wolves are taking quite as much advantage of town blehness as they could, but maybe that's because we're not on the right tracks and don't have to yet?

which would give me a bit of hope for our chances after we get A Flip

there's a big block of what do with manasi/manti/colonel/dolby

and unless there are at least two wolves in there idk what's going on with this game maybe if gh/dya not w/w

i feel like there was a fairly considerable swing of momentum onto specifically that world today, and i don't think the people like actively championing it are as much to blame as the people who treated it as a sort of implicit assumption

idk


i think coming into today being like "haha dya/gh is obviously a wolf here" (with exceptions, but for the most part this applies to most people in this game

is >rand v

but the people who sort of sponged that assumption and were like "well we should probably resolve there but who knows"/trying to focus on building a world with them as wolves without actually reading them as that strong of wolves prior

are >rand w

I liked this thought Cuth had before (second quote), but looking at it through his ISO it feels like he's trying to pull people away from wanting to "resolve" GH/Dya by calling it wolfy

[Esooa]

i mean

i don't think you've been particularly villagery at all; it's not a ding on your reputation to be grouped with those people but just a matter of "everyone else has actually done things that make me feel some flavor of good about them"

i think you're usually a wolf in gh/dya v/v worlds

(talking about Bop) Dislike how Cuth constantly is discrediting town reads on Eph/Bop

[Esooa]

yeah i acknowledge that you've contributed a lot more to the game than anyone else in that category by a decent margin and i also think the stuff you have done is pretty lackluster esp if gh/dya v

which i'm exploring, if not locking in, at this point


again, this is almost entirely a hypothetical gh/dya v/v thing, which /shrug

but

the way you've oriented your reads around that and not really considered looking outside of it and bolstered your position through interactions with visor, who's more generally townread

feels a little... passive in a game that already seems stagnant?

like

i can get the idea of "we need to resolve these slots" but you've neither personally invested heavily in that stance or done that much to interact with and try to find either as villagers, but your posts feel like you're egging the people who do strongly believe on from the sidelines

which, again, IF they are villagers, is a bad look in my eyes

i think i'm more inclined to actually yeet in gh/dya than i was yesterday but stuff like what you're doing is still giving me cold feet

Hate how in the first post he says he's "exploring, if not locking in, at this point" but then in the second says it's "almost entirely a hypothetical gh/dya v/v thing"

The thoughts don't feel consistent together at all

[Esooa]

I think we yeet outside of dya/gh

have the poisoner hit dya

and re-evaluate tomorrow.


your move


i'd be ~ok with that

though i'd rather poison gh maybe

lol

[Esooa]

because i'm putting off posting in this game until i'm in the right headspace

but i'm also skeptical about whether that's going to happen until monday

so maybe i should just go for it

but i am not feeling it at this precise moment in time

i will say

i think manti and bop have both posted well today

and i think logic's post wrt gh and that read was incredibly wolfy

but shrug


i wasn't around eod1

and i'm obviously not just reading logic w for saying the gh has a godread thing

but the way he said it was

very similar to ice cream

and just

not great

and then he left

and

yeah

ah, these are the posts I was looking for when I quickly read over SoD2 again

I thought they were earlier

Will have to re-read the thread to see how Logic was generally perceived when Cuth posted these though

[Esooa]

because i'm putting off posting in this game until i'm in the right headspace

but i'm also skeptical about whether that's going to happen until monday

so maybe i should just go for it

but i am not feeling it at this precise moment in time

i will say

i think manti and bop have both posted well today

and i think logic's post wrt gh and that read was incredibly wolfy

but shrug


i wasn't around eod1

and i'm obviously not just reading logic w for saying the gh has a godread thing

but the way he said it was

very similar to ice cream

and just

not great

and then he left

and

yeah


vote: logic

i do not have warm fuzzy feelings in my stomach about esooa

i'mma be honest

this is such a weird way to retract his previous town read about me lol

[Esooa]

ah sorry for forgetting to remove the two other quotes there I already feel like I'm spamming the thread but whatever lole

[Esooa]

well my Cuth/Manasi ISO's are finished

vote: Cuthalion

[Visor]

Vote: Esooa

[ColonelLubriderm]

interested in why Bop is saying 1 in Hally/Ara

I think both of them are very likely town, less sure about Ara because I have less experience with her but I've felt good about ~everything she's posted

Because if d1 dya wagon is clean

It kind of has to be that way.

I’m not sure that d1 dya wagon is clean though

[ColonelLubriderm]

interested in why Bop is saying 1 in Hally/Ara

I think both of them are very likely town, less sure about Ara because I have less experience with her but I've felt good about ~everything she's posted


I thought some of hally interactions with dya on d2 before self vote were villagy as well

[Visor]

Because if d1 dya wagon is clean

It kind of has to be that way.

I’m not sure that d1 dya wagon is clean though

so you think one of esooa/me/manasi are wolves?

[Visor]

Manasi show up

[ColonelLubriderm]

so you think one of esooa/me/manasi are wolves?

I think it’s in the realm of possibility

Minus esooa

[Maple]

Idk

[Maple]

This shooooooould be a hut

Else

What

[Hally]

vote: manasi

[Hally]

Cuthillius if you’re v i need you to melt my face off with villageriness toDay. the floor is yours

[Hally]

ara
esooa
visor

monty
bop
manti

manasi
cuth

[ColonelLubriderm]

Reading over day 1, I just don't think hally is a wolf

I got to their day 1 posts by going to the thread adv. search and searched for posts from a week ago and earlier.

You don't get the entire day 1 but you get alot of it.

I say this because the other way I iso(clicking the post number to get everyone's post totals) only gets the last 100.

[Hally]

Final Tally

:skull: 7 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, Hally, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, ColonelLubriderm, Maple)

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, Dolby)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
in a w!cuth world, isn’t it kinda dumb for two wolves to end on rask?

[ColonelLubriderm]

in a w!cuth world, isn’t it kinda dumb for two wolves to end on rask?

I mean i have to go back and look at how they ended there but considering nothing but that votecount, better there than on the eliminated villa since alot of head should be going on that wagon when dya inevitably flips.

[ColonelLubriderm]

head should be heat

[Hally]

I mean i have to go back and look at how they ended there but considering nothing but that votecount, better there than on the eliminated villa since alot of head should be going on that wagon when dya inevitably flips.
true yea

and actually i think rask was more viable than that vote count shows iirc? wasn’t it a three-way tie or close to it with not much time left?

[ColonelLubriderm]

true yea

and actually i think rask was more viable than that vote count shows iirc? wasn’t it a three-way tie or close to it with not much time left?

ya,

[Hally]

idk, i’m mostly trying to talk my way into thinking this isn’t a lolwolves ez game because if it’s actually harder it’s not good that we keep having these days where we all just agree to pile on one person and then nothing else really happens

[Hally]

or talk myself rather

[ColonelLubriderm]

Official Tally as of #1042

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)

3 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius, Ephemeral)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)

1 Cuthillius (Maple)
1 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Maple (Esooa)
1 Raskolnikov (pzelda)

thunderously calm

gonna be afk for a bit (nom nom), but I should be back in time to fire out tallies with grace and speed during eod

:juggle:


Official Tally as of #1068

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)
2 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius)

1 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Maple (Esooa)

Not Voting: Maple

thunderously calm


Official Tally as of #1071

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)

1 Maple (Esooa)

Not Voting: Maple

thunderously calm


Official Tally as of #1083

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)

Not Voting: Maple

thunderously calm


Official Tally as of #1090

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief, Montmorency)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)
1 pzelda (Dolby)

thunderously calm


Official Tally as of #1142

5 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally, Montmorency)
5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)
1 pzelda (Dolby)

thunderously calm

eod 1 part 1

[ColonelLubriderm]

Official Tally as of #1163

5 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, Hally, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief)
5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)
4 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, Dolby, ColonelLubriderm)
2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)

thunderously calm

votes at :00 good
votes at :01 bad


Official Tally as of #1174

6 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, Hally, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, ColonelLubriderm)
5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)
3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, Dolby)
2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)

votes at :00 good
votes at :01 bad


Final Tally

:skull: 7 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, Hally, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, ColonelLubriderm, Maple)

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, Dolby)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

eod part 2

[Hally]

can someone check if eph’s reads were much different than mine? i’m on mobile and it’s hard to iso and find posts

i’m just wondering if there’s a reason he died over me beyond “failed vig hunt lol” but iirc we agreed on pretty much everything?

[Hally]

oh ok, that 5-5-4 vote count is very close to the deadline so i guess rask was viable up until the very end

[Hally]

idk what to do

i’m trying to play devil’s advocate and talk myself out of cuth being a wolf but i’m losing

[ColonelLubriderm]

can someone check if eph’s reads were much different than mine? i’m on mobile and it’s hard to iso and find posts

i’m just wondering if there’s a reason he died over me beyond “failed vig hunt lol” but iirc we agreed on pretty much everything?

I would imagine they are just killing people they are not misyeeting.

Looking into it any deeper than that is just wifom

[Hally]

Manasi hi. please do things. the game is pretty small atm and you should be able to contribute

[Cuthillius]

hi hally

the good news is that i'm not a wolf

however

there is a case to be made, depending on your point of view

that that is also bad news

either way

anything you'd like to know/like me to address in particular?

[ColonelLubriderm]

idk what to do

i’m trying to play devil’s advocate and talk myself out of cuth being a wolf but i’m losing

wait til he posts before you make a decision imo

[Cuthillius]

wait til he posts before you make a decision imo

and now lock it in

[Cuthillius]

hm

i might do the thing

i've always wanted to do this but it's never quite been necessary lol

[Hally]

hi hally

the good news is that i'm not a wolf

however

there is a case to be made, depending on your point of view

that that is also bad news

either way

anything you'd like to know/like me to address in particular?
yes

i want to know why you still think monty is a wolf. do you not think he’s been villagery at all lately? what do you think of the way he wanted to dome manti? have you looked at how dolby talked about monty/how monty responded and do you have any thoughts on it? how’s your day going?

[Hally]

hm

i might do the thing

i've always wanted to do this but it's never quite been necessary lol
are you gonna transform into sailor moon

[Cuthillius]

hm this would work better if i'd actually posted more content this game, in retrospect

[Hally]

to be blunt cuth, i don’t like how you’re continuing to hold on to monty being a wolf after he has, imo, 1) gotten more villagery and 2) is possibly spewed v by how dolby talked about him

it reads like a wolf who doesn’t wanna let a mislunch go/doesn’t have other viable avenues besides doubling down

[Hally]

hm this would work better if i'd actually posted more content this game, in retrospect
i don’t know what you’re on about but yes, that would indeed have been helpful

[Cuthillius]

day's going pretty well so far, i stayed up too late last night and feel it a bit rn but we celebrated what would have been my grandma's hundredth birthday and had some rum cake that didn't have the slightest hint of rum flavor in it and sat around and talked about vitamin c and otters and the ingestion of heavy metals

i have a switch now for some reason and started playing some breath of the wild yesterday and that's been great

it's like the real open world experience where you can be like "sure i'm supposed to go in this direction and do Story Things but i literally don't have do and oo that bridge looks cool i wonder what's on the other side and i'm off doing my thing in some forest many hours off the main track of the Story

and it's just really pretty and great

[Hally]

day's going pretty well so far, i stayed up too late last night and feel it a bit rn but we celebrated what would have been my grandma's hundredth birthday and had some rum cake that didn't have the slightest hint of rum flavor in it and sat around and talked about vitamin c and otters and the ingestion of heavy metals

i have a switch now for some reason and started playing some breath of the wild yesterday and that's been great

it's like the real open world experience where you can be like "sure i'm supposed to go in this direction and do Story Things but i literally don't have do and oo that bridge looks cool i wonder what's on the other side and i'm off doing my thing in some forest many hours off the main track of the Story

and it's just really pretty and great
sounds pretty sweet. that sounds like a very you game :P

[ColonelLubriderm]

day's going pretty well so far, i stayed up too late last night and feel it a bit rn but we celebrated what would have been my grandma's hundredth birthday and had some rum cake that didn't have the slightest hint of rum flavor in it and sat around and talked about vitamin c and otters and the ingestion of heavy metals

i have a switch now for some reason and started playing some breath of the wild yesterday and that's been great

it's like the real open world experience where you can be like "sure i'm supposed to go in this direction and do Story Things but i literally don't have do and oo that bridge looks cool i wonder what's on the other side and i'm off doing my thing in some forest many hours off the main track of the Story

and it's just really pretty and great

botw great game

[Cuthillius]

to be blunt cuth, i don’t like how you’re continuing to hold on to monty being a wolf after he has, imo, 1) gotten more villagery and 2) is possibly spewed v by how dolby talked about him

it reads like a wolf who doesn’t wanna let a mislunch go/doesn’t have other viable avenues besides doubling down

i'll check dolby

but i really didn't like his d2 at all, and the pivot d3 reminds me a lot of a very similar game i played on mtgs where town was getting swept and i was also sort of in this place in the poe and calling people wolves and the villagers were like what idk man and it was pretty blatant when you looked at who'd been pushing villagers/wolves/re-evaluating all game

and after i did that one of the wolves did a pretty obvious pivot in thread and started bussing/buddying up to the top villagers and basically ended up winning off of that (i shot the only wolf who died that day but was NKed the same night)

this may change upon reread, but my current impression is that most of the people in this game are extremely villagery and i don't think i'm gonna reconsider most of them at any point

which means it's a pretty small poe, and in this crowd sitting back and doing nothing isn't a viable long-term strategy, because villagers here are competent enough to post them clear (see: manti question mark)

monty's approach yesterday on a macro level is literally exactly what i'd expect from a wolf here, trying to keep things from getting locked in, soft-shielding logic, generally moving orthogonally to what i think the ideal direction is

and i don't think from the medium amount i know about monty people are really reading his posting (and not commenting about spew) entirely accurately/might have a different impression of him as a player than me and as such see what he's done as more villagery than it is

either way

it really is a size of the poe thing, i'm not 100% there but it's basically my only "wolf read" and not just "they are just sort of there and they're not being absurdly villager"

[Hally]

to be blunt cuth, i don’t like how you’re continuing to hold on to monty being a wolf after he has, imo, 1) gotten more villagery and 2) is possibly spewed v by how dolby talked about him

it reads like a wolf who doesn’t wanna let a mislunch go/doesn’t have other viable avenues besides doubling down
i probably shouldn’t have made this post because i don’t want you to feel like you’re constantly having to respond to people’s reads on you and can’t do other stuff. it’s probably better if we all just give you space to do whatever you’re gonna do and reserve judgment for a while

[Hally]

nice x post

[Hally]

i'll check dolby

but i really didn't like his d2 at all, and the pivot d3 reminds me a lot of a very similar game i played on mtgs where town was getting swept and i was also sort of in this place in the poe and calling people wolves and the villagers were like what idk man and it was pretty blatant when you looked at who'd been pushing villagers/wolves/re-evaluating all game

and after i did that one of the wolves did a pretty obvious pivot in thread and started bussing/buddying up to the top villagers and basically ended up winning off of that (i shot the only wolf who died that day but was NKed the same night)

this may change upon reread, but my current impression is that most of the people in this game are extremely villagery and i don't think i'm gonna reconsider most of them at any point

which means it's a pretty small poe, and in this crowd sitting back and doing nothing isn't a viable long-term strategy, because villagers here are competent enough to post them clear (see: manti question mark)

monty's approach yesterday on a macro level is literally exactly what i'd expect from a wolf here, trying to keep things from getting locked in, soft-shielding logic, generally moving orthogonally to what i think the ideal direction is

and i don't think from the medium amount i know about monty people are really reading his posting (and not commenting about spew) entirely accurately/might have a different impression of him as a player than me and as such see what he's done as more villagery than it is

either way

it really is a size of the poe thing, i'm not 100% there but it's basically my only "wolf read" and not just "they are just sort of there and they're not being absurdly villager"
can you expand on the bolded?

[Cuthillius]

i probably shouldn’t have made this post because i don’t want you to feel like you’re constantly having to respond to people’s reads on you and can’t do other stuff. it’s probably better if we all just give you space to do whatever you’re gonna do and reserve judgment for a while

no no it's good light a fire under me i actually appreciate it

[Hally]

specifically interested in what you think the discrepancy is between how we’re viewing monty and how you are and why that exists iyo

[ColonelLubriderm]

i'll check dolby

but i really didn't like his d2 at all, and the pivot d3 reminds me a lot of a very similar game i played on mtgs where town was getting swept and i was also sort of in this place in the poe and calling people wolves and the villagers were like what idk man and it was pretty blatant when you looked at who'd been pushing villagers/wolves/re-evaluating all game

and after i did that one of the wolves did a pretty obvious pivot in thread and started bussing/buddying up to the top villagers and basically ended up winning off of that (i shot the only wolf who died that day but was NKed the same night)

this may change upon reread, but my current impression is that most of the people in this game are extremely villagery and i don't think i'm gonna reconsider most of them at any point

which means it's a pretty small poe, and in this crowd sitting back and doing nothing isn't a viable long-term strategy, because villagers here are competent enough to post them clear (see: manti question mark)

monty's approach yesterday on a macro level is literally exactly what i'd expect from a wolf here, trying to keep things from getting locked in, soft-shielding logic, generally moving orthogonally to what i think the ideal direction is

and i don't think from the medium amount i know about monty people are really reading his posting (and not commenting about spew) entirely accurately/might have a different impression of him as a player than me and as such see what he's done as more villagery than it is

either way

it really is a size of the poe thing, i'm not 100% there but it's basically my only "wolf read" and not just "they are just sort of there and they're not being absurdly villager"

I agree with everything you say here about monte

[Cuthillius]

can you expand on the bolded?

i will probably wait on that until i actually reread the posts in question

but part of what i'm talking about is if you've never seen someone and they post like ok and then they dial it up and post more and longer and better thoughts you're like wow they really care and are engaged

and often that's the case

but if you know someone is capable of the latter in a lot of situations you might not be as influenced by the uptick

for example if someone had never played with me, or had only played with me semi-recently, they'd probably think for the most part i don't do that much or get that engaged in games

and those people would be very surprised by a big swing in persuasiveness/eloquence/engagement because they have no way of knowing i have that in my toolbox

and probably read it as more significant, whether villagery or not, than people who've seen me wall many times before

and i think it's quite possible here that some people's read on monty (and, i'll admit, i feel something similar in a way about my read on manti) has to do with "oh that's different and better"

without necessarily the same sense of... what is or is not in his general range

i'd be curious to hear visor's thoughts on all this because he's the person who actually has a lot of experience with monty, but

[ColonelLubriderm]

let's say that monte flips wolf, but manasi ends up being a villa.

What do you think in that world?

[Maple]

hm this would work better if i'd actually posted more content this game, in retrospect

What's your claim?

[Hally]

i will probably wait on that until i actually reread the posts in question

but part of what i'm talking about is if you've never seen someone and they post like ok and then they dial it up and post more and longer and better thoughts you're like wow they really care and are engaged

and often that's the case

but if you know someone is capable of the latter in a lot of situations you might not be as influenced by the uptick

for example if someone had never played with me, or had only played with me semi-recently, they'd probably think for the most part i don't do that much or get that engaged in games

and those people would be very surprised by a big swing in persuasiveness/eloquence/engagement because they have no way of knowing i have that in my toolbox

and probably read it as more significant, whether villagery or not, than people who've seen me wall many times before

and i think it's quite possible here that some people's read on monty (and, i'll admit, i feel something similar in a way about my read on manti) has to do with "oh that's different and better"

without necessarily the same sense of... what is or is not in his general range

i'd be curious to hear visor's thoughts on all this because he's the person who actually has a lot of experience with monty, but
as in, you’ve seen/guess that monty’s recent posting is in his wolf rage too and therefore we shouldn’t v read it just because it’s better than the stuff that came before? have you seen him make posts like he did last day as a wolf?

[Hally]

i think (?) visor did say he didn’t think monty’s posts last day were out of his wolf range but that it’s moot because dolby probably spewed him v

[Hally]

regardless of where we land on cuth i really would like some pressure on manasi to try to get her to do ~something~

[Cuthillius]

i don't know as much about wolf range in terms of behavior (insofar as we can discern any of that given the flips so far) as like emotional/posting range

and while i'm not saying that's by any means all of what people's reads hinge on i do think it plays into them to a certain extent, just like you all will probably start reconsidering your opinions of alignment the more words and thoughts i put into the thread

but i think the effect is exaggerated when it's not someone you're familiar with, and since monty's playstyle is... somewhat obscure in terms of overlap with most people, i think that aspect is something we're more prone to read into than we would be if his play was more

traditional

for lack of a better word

[Hally]

Arapocalypse i assume you still think cuth is v? where do you wanna go toDay instead?

[ColonelLubriderm]

i don't know as much about wolf range in terms of behavior (insofar as we can discern any of that given the flips so far) as like emotional/posting range

and while i'm not saying that's by any means all of what people's reads hinge on i do think it plays into them to a certain extent, just like you all will probably start reconsidering your opinions of alignment the more words and thoughts i put into the thread

but i think the effect is exaggerated when it's not someone you're familiar with, and since monty's playstyle is... somewhat obscure in terms of overlap with most people, i think that aspect is something we're more prone to read into than we would be if his play was more

traditional

for lack of a better word

I don't agree for the reasons of the monty villa reads, at least for me.

[Hally]

i don't know as much about wolf range in terms of behavior (insofar as we can discern any of that given the flips so far) as like emotional/posting range

and while i'm not saying that's by any means all of what people's reads hinge on i do think it plays into them to a certain extent, just like you all will probably start reconsidering your opinions of alignment the more words and thoughts i put into the thread

but i think the effect is exaggerated when it's not someone you're familiar with, and since monty's playstyle is... somewhat obscure in terms of overlap with most people, i think that aspect is something we're more prone to read into than we would be if his play was more

traditional

for lack of a better word
i think you lost me, sorry

[Hally]

I don't agree for the reasons of the monty villa reads, at least for me.
do you agree with the dolby spew read at least? or no?

[ColonelLubriderm]

do you agree with the dolby spew read at least? or no?

I don't find it clearing for monte.

[Cuthillius]

i think you lost me, sorry

if you don't know me

and then you see my high effort posts

you think wow he really is going above and beyond that proves some real engagement and dedication

but if you know me

you see my high effort posts and you're like hm cuth is posting more now

[Hally]

if you don't know me

and then you see my high effort posts

you think wow he really is going above and beyond that proves some real engagement and dedication

but if you know me

you see my high effort posts and you're like hm cuth is posting more now
i’m with you on that part and how you’re mapping it onto monty’s uptick

where you’re losing me is the connection to monty’s alignment. you’re just saying you think we shouldn’t be v reading monty’s posts because them being better/more emotional/engaged/etc != them being more villagery for him in particular? i guess i just don’t get what you’re basing that on unless you’ve seen monty’s wolf game and know that he can make those posts as a wolf. because otherwise you’re kinda just speculating about what you think is and isn’t villagery for him without actually knowing, right?

[Hally]

i may just be completely misunderstanding you though

[Hally]

if someone else gets it and thinks they can explain it more clearly, feel free. i might just be dumb

[Maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160933279724208128/816753750529671198/20210303_122733.jpg

Cherry crepe

[Cuthillius]

i’m with you on that part and how you’re mapping it onto monty’s uptick

where you’re losing me is the connection to monty’s alignment. you’re just saying you think we shouldn’t be v reading monty’s posts because them being better/more emotional/engaged/etc != them being more villagery for him in particular? i guess i just don’t get what you’re basing that on unless you’ve seen monty’s wolf game and know that he can make those posts as a wolf. because otherwise you’re kinda just speculating about what you think is and isn’t villagery for him without actually knowing, right?

i've seen monty's game as both alignments, we've played a fair number of times

it's pretty similar

thus why nobody really knows how to read him, see: visor at the start of this game

he sounds like he thinks things through as both alignments and yet as both alignments it's still usually hard to follow his train of thought (for me, at least)

again, in lieu of having read dolby stuff/hard things i can't say i've seen anything that i would be surprised if he did as either alignment

and i think people's improving opinions of him primarily coincided with him using more words than other people in the poe at that point were and i don't really think his posting, from what i saw, was outstanding in any meaningful way based on my experience

that said if you think it was with respect to what we know or guess of other people's alignments, i'm absolutely down to have that conversation when we get there for sure

[Maple]

So, VT?

[Hally]

stop, i’m hungry :P

[Cuthillius]

manti that picture is 4.5 times the height of my screen

and i can only see the very leftmost part of it

[Cuthillius]

ah there we go it's a preview now

and yes, why do you think i've been playing like this lol

[Maple]

Was hoping for something spicy

Like FBI agent

[Hally]

i've seen monty's game as both alignments, we've played a fair number of times

it's pretty similar

thus why nobody really knows how to read him, see: visor at the start of this game

he sounds like he thinks things through as both alignments and yet as both alignments it's still usually hard to follow his train of thought (for me, at least)

again, in lieu of having read dolby stuff/hard things i can't say i've seen anything that i would be surprised if he did as either alignment

and i think people's improving opinions of him primarily coincided with him using more words than other people in the poe at that point were and i don't really think his posting, from what i saw, was outstanding in any meaningful way based on my experience

that said if you think it was with respect to what we know or guess of other people's alignments, i'm absolutely down to have that conversation when we get there for sure
ah, thank you. i get it now. sorry, i just wasn’t sure if you were speaking from direct experience or extrapolating based on a general thing that wasn’t necessarily specific to monty and his range

lemme see if i can grab the posts where dolby talks about monty

[Maple]

We got, what, 2 safe kills left?

[Cuthillius]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209778231862099968/816755105990443018/KGnmc0Gcyd9xLXv-C6mUX8_BRFWbNbu0oReUjaxiE-d1pIOfssUYDlvbqcRWnuWNh728Qc84DUJa4zJblZeMJg5JwV7GJibTlRFm.png?width=763&height=506

saw this the other week on a bike ride

[Hally]

ah, thank you. i get it now. sorry, i just wasn’t sure if you were speaking from direct experience or extrapolating based on a general thing that wasn’t necessarily specific to monty and his range

lemme see if i can grab the posts where dolby talks about monty
actually, can someone else quote them? just ctrl f “monty” in dolby’s iso?

sorry, it’s hard to do it on mobile because it doesn’t show the full posts in the search (i assume it does on desktop?)

[Hally]

We got, what, 2 safe kills left?
yea i think it’s two misses until lylo

so either one mislunch and one vig miss or two mislunches and vig holsters

[Hally]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209778231862099968/816755105990443018/KGnmc0Gcyd9xLXv-C6mUX8_BRFWbNbu0oReUjaxiE-d1pIOfssUYDlvbqcRWnuWNh728Qc84DUJa4zJblZeMJg5JwV7GJibTlRFm.png?width=763&height=506

saw this the other week on a bike ride
pretty

[Maple]

So

Manasi can't be wolf with bop or visor cause she'd try harder

Right?

I think anyone else is a coinflip in that regard

Is this stupid?

[Hally]

vig should always shoot tonight even if we miss right?

[Maple]

Monty w with someone with hero potential only?

[Maple]

Only if their confidence is = town's ability to hit or greater

[Hally]

So

Manasi can't be wolf with bop or visor cause she'd try harder

Right?

I think anyone else is a coinflip in that regard

Is this stupid?
why would she try harder if she was with visor/bop? wouldn’t she try less hard if anything because she knows they can carry and can possibly shield her if needed?

[Maple]

why would she try harder if she was with visor/bop? wouldn’t she try less hard if anything because she knows they can carry and can possibly shield her if needed?

My experience with manasi is that she tries harder with good teams or ones she likes.

For example, she tried hard in a w rand with apoc

Wondering if this is good enough to make a rule tho, would like to hear bop and visor comment on this

[Hally]

cuth posted a sunset to distract me from trying to get him to solve

pretty slick, dude

[Hally]

a video of a cute animal would have worked longer though :P

[Hally]

or wait, i guess that’s a rainbow not a sunset

[ColonelLubriderm]

So

Manasi can't be wolf with bop or visor cause she'd try harder

Right?

I think anyone else is a coinflip in that regard

Is this stupid?

I don’t think she’s a wolf with visor not because of trying but because I think as a wolf shed latch onto a villa rather than another wolf.

[Maple]

cool ill take that as binding

[Hally]

bop/manasi is probably my solve if it’s not cuth but i haven’t actually dug into it

[ColonelLubriderm]

My experience with manasi is that she tries harder with good teams or ones she likes.

For example, she tried hard in a w rand with apoc

Wondering if this is good enough to make a rule tho, would like to hear bop and visor comment on this

I think the idea has merit in mashes moreso than smaller games.

But if she was on a team of people she doesn’t know at all it would be less trying imo regardless of gamesize

[Hally]

doesn’t manasi know dya well?

[ColonelLubriderm]

Monty w with someone with hero potential only?

Monty/visor
Monty/ara
Monty/manasi

Cuth/visor?
Cuth/manasi
Cuth/maple-I don’t think so
Cuth/ara

Maple/manasi
Maple/visor
Maple/ara

I think this is roughly where I’m at

[ColonelLubriderm]

doesn’t manasi know dya well?

Yeah but dya was out by day 2

[ColonelLubriderm]

Yeah but dya was out by day 2

Probably not a good sign that was the last manasi post I remember

[Cuthillius]

Monty w with someone with hero potential only?

i actually think the switch makes sense from either perspective

if he's in the bottom of the poe with a partner you gotta try something, yeah?

and if he's with someone else who's a lot safer than can't hurt to toss some confusion into the poe and keep people focused on that

[ColonelLubriderm]

I feel like there is a team i forget,

[Maple]

I think the idea has merit in mashes moreso than smaller games.

But if she was on a team of people she doesn’t know at all it would be less trying imo regardless of gamesize

ye

.

[ColonelLubriderm]

Ara/manasi I forgot

[Hally]

bop, talk about ara? i don’t really see her being a wolf?

[ColonelLubriderm]

bop, talk about ara? i don’t really see her being a wolf?

Because the only reasons I have her as not a wolf are bad and it doesn’t hurt to consider it.

[Hally]

Because the only reasons I have her as not a wolf are bad and it doesn’t hurt to consider it.
what are the reasons?

[Cuthillius]

i will say it is plausible that i'm reading ara v because i feel bad for misyeeting and misreading in the past

but i think she's done even more stuff that i nod along to than i'm used to from her as a v

not just in terms of reads or opinions, because people can be wrong or manipulative, but like

behavior and interpretations and mindset

all seems p good to me

[ColonelLubriderm]

what are the reasons?

Because all the people I sussed for reading her villa too easily were villas so I figured I’m the problem and just taking their word for it.

The second reason is quantum readslist

[Hally]

a video of a cute animal would have worked longer though :P
cuth i’m disappointed you didn’t respond to this with a cute animal video

i set you up, man

[Hally]

Because all the people I sussed for reading her villa too easily were villas so I figured I’m the problem and just taking their word for it.

The second reason is quantum readslist
so if other people’s reads didn’t exist how would you read her?

[ColonelLubriderm]

so if other people’s reads didn’t exist how would you read her?

On par with manti

[Hally]

i don’t actually know if i can catch ara when she’s wolfing because i’ve never seen her wolf in a normal game so it’s possible i’m v reading her too easily

but what i’ve seen this game feels like her villa game as i know it

[ColonelLubriderm]

Esooa
Hally

Visor
Ara
Manti

Monte

Manasi
Cuth

[Hally]

actually i sorta followed MUgwarts and read it after the fact so i have a vague impression of how she wolfs maybe. not sure where that game rates for her in terms of wolf performances though. she got lunched D1

[Cuthillius]

cuth i’m disappointed you didn’t respond to this with a cute animal video

i set you up, man

sorry sorry here you go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxntFOEyAB4

[Maple]

vote: monty

[Hally]

sorry sorry here you go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxntFOEyAB4
aaawwwww thank you

i love the music

[Maple]

if anyone has a wackadoo ass claim that might get them lynched in xylo today is a good day to out it

[Hally]

I like ara rn!!!!!


really really tired. i still feel a little lost but i found myslef nodding along to your posts


i dont remember anymore
small point but i remember thinking this sequence was vaguely not w/w with ara? just because i feel like if dya was gonna v read a teammate they would be better about keeping their reasoning straight and not forget it 15 min after they say it, whereas forgetting their read on a villager is more likely because they don’t expect to be questioned on it as much?

but this feels kinda convoluted now that i actually type it out

[Maple]

i wonder what ara is up to

[Maple]

small point but i remember thinking this sequence was vaguely not w/w with ara? just because i feel like if dya was gonna v read a teammate they would be better about keeping their reasoning straight and not forget it 15 min after they say it, whereas forgetting their read on a villager is more likely because they don’t expect to be questioned on it as much?

but this feels kinda convoluted now that i actually type it out

i see what youre thinking

maybe

[Hally]

if anyone has a wackadoo ass claim that might get them lynched in xylo today is a good day to out it
hard claim wackadoo ass

[Maple]

vote: hally

i cc

[Hally]

vote: hally

i cc
https://i.giphy.com/media/lJ0JGfNBrRWJVCRChd/giphy.webp

[Maple]

sort by postcount says monty manasi pray

[Cuthillius]

i got a little block of pecorino romano the other day

it has so much flavor

whenever i need a little pick-me-up i go and slice off a thin strip, just enough to get all the taste

and the flavor sticks around for quite a while, too

good value

[Visor]

Pecorino romano goat
Montmorency

Thoughts on the game?

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #2707

1 Cuthillius (Esooa)
1 Esooa (Visor)
1 Hally (Maple)
1 Manasi (Hally)

Not Voting: Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Cuthillius, Manasi, Montmorency

thunderously calm

[Cuthillius]

24387

hally posted a panda gif and i wanted to post one too that also accurately conveyed my feelings about getting into this game and kinda forgetting about it after a 5 pm gamestart and only showing up the following morning, but the forum has a bizarre system that technically makes sense but isn't actually good in any way so i had to repost it


https://media.giphy.com/media/gB5o7HVgpkCYM/giphy.gif


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209778231862099968/813477405066133534/mantiorg.png

this should work for default theme

smh manti


hi hally! :laugh4:


:beadyeyes:

notlikethis.png

last game hally said "note to self pocket cuth with otters next time i'm wolf"


I do think that he played up the "high expectations" a ton, while he absolutely does have a Reputation it was more a defense against "we know we're not going to survive that long so let's try to dunk on as many villagers as we can first and oh damn people are catching on". So while there's a grain of truth in there, I don't think that the specifics of this read hold up entirely? That said it is somewhat more aggressive than I'd expect, though I could see that coming from either side, so shrug.

this was in response to ara saying that gh would be less tryhardy as a villager and would meme around more, particularly after how high the expectations were on him in team game

there him saying "high expectations" was basically "get off my back i'm not wolfy you guys just think i'm omegatown mcgee because i have a trophy" and then he just openwolfed in terms of pushes etc

wanted to clarify because i was in the same teamchat and i didn't know if other people who were just reading from the outside actually thought gh was usually that upset when people expected higher standards of him

while i've seen that dynamic play out in other games, the mentor one in particular, i don't think it's anywhere near as big of a deal as he made it out to be when he was using it as a shield

and as such i didn't think he'd necessarily feel that he needed to daisy around to relax and destress as a villager specifically

I like your reads, so I'll ignore you posting the otter after what you said last game and v-read you, ok?

pls let me in
in response to hally saying alliance w/ eph/sunbae/dolby/ara, i had all but dolby as pretty strong villagers for that point in the game

eph for his mindset, i thought it was possible he was hamming it up as a wolf and getting excited to dig in but it wasn't at all performative really like i'd expect from eph

sunbae for toan, but legitimately good toan

ara for making generally solid posts and matching up perfectly with the v!ara i've seen recently


This is not an incorrect take, but it's, like, worst case scenario in my head? The conclusion is reasonable based on the logic but I... don't think it follows naturally and I'm not a huge fan of the reads.

I'm actively trying to make sure I don't just v-read eph for having more WIM and obvious thought ITT than the last few games, but I do actually think he's been villagery independently of that and it's not quite his default mode as a wolf, which I think he'd tend towards more in this sort of list.

response to gh, i felt like he was reading way more than natural into eph's posts, and it felt similar to the way he handled a couple of people in team mafia game in terms of constructing a narrative where it wasn't warranted or necessary

the points were valid, but he went like five stations farther on the train of thought than really made sense at the time

This is the cherry on top of Hally's push on GH in terms of how good it looks for them.

it's not that hally doesn't push people as a wolf, but they don't just gleefully dumpster on people nearly as often, especially not people as intimidating as gh

they'd absolutely get up in someone's face if they think it's a good push, but this felt extremely v!hally

haha you fool I started on the third paragraph

i'd Actually be v-reading gh if he was posting from both accounts

this actually sort of happened over the course of the game-- gh got a bit more casual and bop got a bit more serious, and they both got much more villagery


Wolf!GH, from my limited experience, tends to double down on the stuff he knows he's good at-- making reasonable posts and cases and generating reads, rather than just flipping over into shiptoasting. To put it a different way, I think his lackingness as a wolf and a villager exist on two different axes, which isn't always the case for people.

on esooa saying that gh being way more tryhardy than everyone else was super villagery because burnout

and i was saying i think gh can be tryhardy as a wolf because it's easier than the alternative in terms of strategy and play

like, this sort of read construction and whatnot is very much in his wheelhouse, making words sound good and putting together stories is easy, and i think he often leans on this to make up for missing tone in other respects as a wolf



i actually thought this was ColonelLubriderm posting smh

this was what we call a "joke" to insert some much-needed levity into the thread


i

didn't read that as visor saying amy was v?

hally's train of thought here was legitimately villagery, for the record

The "amusingly self-deprecating" tier:

Cuthillius

The "seems very villagery and if so will be painfully obvious by EoD2 at the latest" tier:

Esooa
Hally
Sunbae

The "feel familiarly villagery in a way that makes me happy but isn't actually very coherent in my mind" tier:

Arapocalypse
Ephemeral

The "makes me question if I have a microchip implanted in my mind to sponge thoughts from my future self so he can pocket me" tier:

Visor

The "my friends are v-reading him so I feel like I should too" tier:

Dolby

The "if they're wolves they're doing a great job of hiding it, but the same applies to them if v" tier:

Csargo
Montmorency
pzelda
Manasi
ColonelLubriderm
dyachei
Maple

The "prepare to be spitroasted" tier:

GeneralHankerchief
Ampharos

i mostly read esooa v for the comments on her approach to this game after team mafia, and i felt like her play lines up a lot with what i'd expect if she was in that state of mind coming in

that said until today i haven't seen much of what i really consider the hallmarks of esooa as a villager, which are the longer trains of thought and deep dives of analysis

my hesitation there recently has largely been due to

not specifically the dropoff but like some level of disengagement, and not the sort of fiery close-up pushing and pulling the fabric of the thread that i've seen from her several times now and i think is lacking at least in depth when she's w

hally had good reads and good pushes

visor just said things i was thinking about before i had a chance to say them at a ridiculously high rate d1

gh/amy i'm about to make a post about so i'll save that for then

use the avatar i made for you you goon

manti smh


I've never seen an image more accurately describe Low Effort Invitational.

flight rising wholesome


vote: Ampharos

amy just sort of crashed into the thread and had not amazing takes, i wanted to get on the train with visor before it got really popular and it did feel like it was actually effortful enough compared to how bad it was that it was squarely in the sort of thing i expect from not entirely engaged w!amy

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts from this angle on GH specifically.

directed towards sunbae wrt how people's perceptions of people are affected by recently played games; especially given that gh just played two wolf games with a lot of people from this playerlist

Ara, your definition of "TWTBAW" seems... gauged on a much more sensitive scale than usual, so I'm not sure what to do with those reads? Like, usually I'm used to people applying that read to people who are doing things that just splash into the thread in a very wolfy way, but you seem to be saying "these things are slightly >rand w and I don't think this person would do that many slightly >rand w things so they're probably town". Does that make sense?

Also, why am I a villager?

mafia philosophy

i wanted to make sure this was just a difference of how we apply terminology, which it was

i thought there was a world where it was like sloppy in the wrong kind of way, but her response checked out and seemed internally coherent

not that i think this is necessarily the sort of read you apply if you're trying to subtly boost fellow wolves, but like i said i wanted to understand what was going on inside her head

Visor, where's your head at on our good colonel?
there was not a lot of discussion about bop, he was generally in people's nulls, i thought he was the most likely strong skate-y wolf

yeppers

i read that string of posts when i was catching up this morning and was debating in my head about whether or not to talk about them

and then i saw visor had the same impression and was like sick i don't have to use my words

but i agree wholeheartedly

i don't think that teasing away strong early reads is Wolfy, i don't think that hally and eph are bad reads to have, i don't think criticizing people calling out gh for tryharding is Wrong

i do think they are weird things to do, and the last one is particularly soapbox-y

but it all feels like she's going through the motions and i really don't like the reaction to visor

this was after gh posted his case on amy, and summarized a lot of my concerns pretty well

that said, it was also based on a fairly small base of content and i was still pretty hesitant on gh; this push was a large part of why i switched over to gh later

i felt like there was a very plausible world where gh was making a very reasonable and justifiable case, but he'd made ones that i didn't like nearly as much and i was worried about momentum swinging over that way too far and it didn't feel like a partner-y thing

incorrect i am the odd night tracker
reference to rocks for the 1.5 players in this game who weren't in that one and/or didn't read it

very clever

vote: GeneralHankerchief

already explained the reasoning for this one

i saw the lack of bold right after i posted it but didn't fix because i was about to take a nap and figured that the Statement inherent in the post was enough to get my point across

nothing to say about pzelda

you're there because you made a few posts that read well emotionally (i know people hate this sort of read because emotions aren't something you're supposed to read people off of but i don't care) early on and i feel pretty good about how your approach has lined up with those specific feelings

gh and amy are both the sort of players who sound reasonable and present plausible logical arguments no matter what they're doing, but i dislike the angles they've taken with their reads and where they've engaged to a degree, and neither has presented a lot of Caring about their reads or state in the game at this point

which is just me trying to find slightly different words than the ones i used talking to visor just now-- essentially, both feel like they are Making Points but lacking in the depth and subtleties that i expect to see from them as villagers

i'm not smitten with gh's swap onto amy and i wanted to give amy some space after her posts just now (i don't think they sway the needle entirely, but i resonate with the humanity in them), thus the vote switch just now

the specific posts were, as hally's noted, the ones having to do with feeling like an outsider in this kind of playerlist, which i think makes sense given change of forum, recent games, and the overall caliber of play here, and yet it didn't feel like that was an excuse to not get stuck in or anything

like she was still pretty engaged with the game d1 just taking more of a backseat than normal and it made sense if she was v given all of that

the reads on both amy and gh were due to a lack of something rather than them doing anything that was particularly wolfy for them, it felt like only half of the picture was really there and given how... constructed? that implies something slightly different than i'm going for, but like

structured in terms of thoughts and ideas their posts were

wasn't something i was in love with


i kid you not

i have spent half a day wondering why people were talking about rocks so much and what game they were referencing

it just clicked when i read this post on my walk just now

i feel very silly

i actually was like "amy saying she had rocks in her brain was a weird not-really-amy-like thing to say"

and then people were talking about this game and i was like huh that doesn't sound familiar

but i think i just didn't talk about the game much except in dvc/with people who were in it and as such only really thought of it as The Invitational or whatever

visor i'm gonna be salty if you're v and you misread me later in the game despite my prolific use of capitalization and punctuation this morning
visor said i'm easier to read on dlp because of formatting recently

for the record my use of capitalization and all that has been a feels thing

not really intentional just that first morning in particular my mind felt especially structured and that direct communication was more natural than the normal floaty style i settle into most of the time

yes yes i know

vote: GeneralHankerchief
zack cast shade at me in the vc, nothing changed otherwise

i think wolves tend to have more of a filter in terms of what they post

esooa in particular is someone who'll probably post a lot as a wolf, but also try to make sure she's cultivating the right image

and that type of player tends to be less likely to just toss out an extremely surface level read that's never going to stick but is poking a bear and is in the range where it's not soft or hard enough to be a good look for them
this was talking about esooa's comment on visor's wall that only addressed the length and not the content; i do think it fits still

esooa's the sort of player who establishes presence as w and isn't scared and does stuff, but also avoids unnecessary conflict unless it serves some purpose

and i don't think this sort of defense is obvious enough to bait out as much as, say, trying to get v-read for having an incorrect tunnel and repping it v strongly as w

it's unrelated to that specific train of thought, but moderate strength v from some posts early on/how i feel her game has played out since

bop wanted clarification on my actual read on esooa, just explained what i'd laid out previously

because sometimes i like to stew on things and not force people's hands so they get defensive and i confbias on them and the focus becomes more on whether or not they're conforming to my particular standards by which i'm reading them than how they'd post if they were free to do whatever

because that's not a ton of fun

but i also thought the posts were pretty bad

and i'd have likely mentioned it in passing or implicitly at some point after having caught up if visor hadn't
why i wouldn't comment on amy's posts directly after reading them

as i'm sure everyone here knows very well, it's very easy to persuade yourself of things that aren't actually things

i do it much more often than i'd like, and especially early-mid d1 i don't want to start putting the hydraulic press on someone for a few posts they made at the start of the game, especially when my read is for a lack of something like it was with amy rather than for the presence of some unsavory behavior, because usually people being death-tunneled doesn't make them playing more like you expect them to under normal circumstances

manti

what's up

manti was just sitting back and lobbing shade at me from a distance

i wanted to prompt more valuable dialogue because i like manti and enjoy hearing his thoughts on the game and thought he might be trying to big brain my alignment from a distance

but after his recent wolf-game where he sat back and lobbed shade at me from a distance i wanted to get up close and personal because while i didn't think the shade was entirely unjustified i think a large part of it was due to our patterns of engagement not really overlapping a ton (also i didn't post that much either in volume or depth)

he was less playful/performative about it this time though which seemed like a mild positive


I disagree, I don't think there's been a general consensus to any degree approaching that of rocks; while individual people have said they think all the wolves are within a specific pool I haven't gotten the impression that there are many people who are general blind spots or that people's reads are lining up to an unusual or unhealthy degree.

The village read I'm most uncertain about is probably Eph, because I think he deserves more credit than he gets for his play, but I have a lot of people who are still fairly unsorted and I don't think I've really forced myself to come to any conclusions consciously or subconsciously this game so I'm both pretty happy with where I'm at in terms of town reads and think there's plenty of wiggle room.

responding to ara

i felt like her take was that the game was not particularly tense/diverse, similar to rocks, ergo this was bad

it didn't end up actually being quite what i read it as, but i felt pretty ok with our d1 especially compared with how static d1 of rocks was

obviously it wasn't amazing in retrospect, but like i still think the game as a whole feeling like it was moving in the right direction holds up

I'm more wondering if you feel like individual people are solidifying worlds at a faster rate than you'd expect. My impression has been a lot of the people who tend to jump to conclusions have been doing so, but it's not a thread-wide thing nor do I feel like people who don't tend to lock in on specific PoEs early are doing so at a higher rate or vice versa.

further clarification mostly

ara and i have fairly different approaches and i kinda expect this sort of bouncing off and "i don't feel like you're weighting things the way i would think to" a lot of the time, whether it's actually in an interaction or just in general

but i did consistently like her responses when i pushed her on those levels this game


hi hally

how do you feel about *waves hands*

hally was just coming into thread

on the back of my conversation about ara with the general gamestate i wanted to hear how hally was feeling about where things were headed and what was going on

one of the people in this game i tend to vibe with the most naturally

eph was also in slep

yes, i am quoting every single post

yes yes

more gauging like

your level of comfort about the current gamestate

anything you're specifically concerned about

how your day's been

they thought i was talking about their read on me, i felt awkward for not having been clear up front so i also inquired as to their day to make the interaction seem more convivial

actually more the three posts before then than these

manti thought i should wolfread the posts where he talked about philosophical idea stuff and like the classy showy manti haha i'm gonna do this no matter what you say this is what's up full stop, i felt like those were pretty nai but was a bit unsettled by the way he presented his ara and esooa reads, which were over the top in a very dramatic sense while having absolutely nothing in them

and it seemed like a very classic potential manti gotcha where he does something that looks weird and then memes on anyone who calls those posts out, and i didn't feel like he'd feel like he'd need to quite as often as v there

[Cuthillius]

anyway i'm not going to spend my entire day doing that

so i'm taking a break from this game for now and will be back with more relevant content

i might resume the scheduled programming tomorrow if i feel it's merited because it would make me feel like a cool kid but no promises

[Hally]

what is that

[Hally]

cuth that’s very cool but like

what’s the point

[Cuthillius]

cuth that’s very cool but like

what’s the point

i'm doing it for me not for you

[Hally]

if you’re v i need you to find wolves not post a play by play of everything you’ve said this game

[Hally]

i'm doing it for me not for you
but

why

[Hally]

unrelated but i’m kinda concerned monty has seemingly stopped doing stuff right as people started v reading him

[Maple]

unrelated but i’m kinda concerned monty has seemingly stopped doing stuff right as people started v reading him

indeedidly

[Hally]

what does this thing cuth is doing mean

[ColonelLubriderm]

what does this thing cuth is doing mean

I just assumed it was him doing what he thinks people read Monty v for just to see if it works(ie gets villa reads)

[Hally]

I just assumed it was him doing what he thinks people read Monty v for just to see if it works(ie gets villa reads)
huh? how is it similar to what monty was doing?

[ColonelLubriderm]

i don't know as much about wolf range in terms of behavior (insofar as we can discern any of that given the flips so far) as like emotional/posting range

and while i'm not saying that's by any means all of what people's reads hinge on i do think it plays into them to a certain extent, just like you all will probably start reconsidering your opinions of alignment the more words and thoughts i put into the thread

but i think the effect is exaggerated when it's not someone you're familiar with, and since monty's playstyle is... somewhat obscure in terms of overlap with most people, i think that aspect is something we're more prone to read into than we would be if his play was more

traditional

for lack of a better word

Basically I’m saying he’s doing the bolded

[Hally]

Basically I’m saying he’s doing the bolded
oh

i don’t think it’s the same though? because we v read monty for posting things about other people not himself. i don’t understand why cuth would think posting stuff about himself would get him v read

[ColonelLubriderm]

huh? how is it similar to what monty was doing?

I interpreted him saying monte was getting villa read for seemingly putting together longer and better thoughts.

So now he’s putting together longer thoughts

[Maple]

The only thing I care about right now is critical analysis

Any other posts are either ignored or don't impact my reads

Good tone and feelz do not matter at this stage

[Maple]

I have no reads that I'm willing to take a bet on and bring to lylo so I'm more or less equally willing to go after any wagon if it looks sufficiently good.

[Maple]

I can't say I particularly care about any of the posts made so far today.

[ColonelLubriderm]

oh

i don’t think it’s the same though? because we v read monty for posting things about other people not himself. i don’t understand why cuth would think posting stuff about himself would get him v read

He might not be doing that at all.
I have no idea what he’s doing and I’m just trying to somehow make sense of it.

Because before it all started he said it would work better if he posted more content this game so my thought is that him posting these long form analysis of his own posts would work better to stop him from being eliminated if he did more content in the firs5 place.

Only way I currently make sense of it

[Cuthillius]

I just assumed it was him doing what he thinks people read Monty v for just to see if it works(ie gets villa reads)

lmao

i wrote that post about halfway through doing the thing, and i knew someone would say this

i was going to do the entire iso because it's funny, because it's something i've wanted to do for a while in this situation, and since i think the biggest issue y'all have had with me this game stems from my not having put thoughts into the thread, even when the outcomes of those thoughts do show up in my posts

i'm specifically inspired by fontisian, in case you're wondering

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m pretty sure unless team is ara/manasi

Killing monte/cuth/maple results in a wolf for sure

[Hally]

lmao

i wrote that post about halfway through doing the thing, and i knew someone would say this

i was going to do the entire iso because it's funny, because it's something i've wanted to do for a while in this situation, and since i think the biggest issue y'all have had with me this game stems from my not having put thoughts into the thread, even when the outcomes of those thoughts do show up in my posts

i'm specifically inspired by fontisian, in case you're wondering
can you do something else please

[ColonelLubriderm]

I’m pretty sure unless team is ara/manasi

Killing monte/cuth/maple results in a wolf for sure

And if the wolf is monte I would clear the other 2

[Cuthillius]

can you do something else please

yes i will, like i've already said

inherent in the statement "i'm doing it for me and not for you" is the tacit acknowledgement that this is not what is most helpful or what you want to see

[Maple]

I’m pretty sure unless team is ara/manasi

Killing monte/cuth/maple results in a wolf for sure

lettuce burn the house down to kill a rat

[Cuthillius]

lettuce burn the house down to kill a rat

the line between pest extermination and arson is a very thin one indeed

[Maple]

And if the wolf is monte I would clear the other 2

I'd me and cuth a plausible world

[Cuthillius]

I'd me and cuth a plausible world

too performative

give me something better

[Maple]

what if I claimed tracker

[Cuthillius]

what if I claimed tracker

odd or even

your pick

[Maple]

Let's go with

Both

[Hally]

what if I claimed tracker
:pop2:

[Cuthillius]

Let's go with

Both

got it

i'm the backup tracker then

[Hally]

i, too, am a tracker

[Maple]

Cool sounds legit

[Hally]

i was gonna say i feel like i’ve been talking to the same three people since i woke up and then i realized i have in fact been talking to the same three people

weh

[Cuthillius]

i was gonna say i feel like i’ve been talking to the same three people since i woke up and then i realized i have in fact been talking to the same three people

weh

love you too

[Visor]

it would be nice if ara monty and manasi showed up?

[Hally]

love you too
Imagine me and you, I do
I think about you day and night
It's only right
To think about the girl you love
And hold her tight
So happy together

If I should call you up, invest a dime
And you say you belong to me
And ease my mind
Imagine how the world could be
So very fine
So happy together

I can't see me loving nobody but you for all my life
When you're with me, baby, the skies will be blue for all my life

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they tossed the dice
It had to be
The only one for me is you
And you for me
So happy together

I can't see me loving nobody but you for all my life
When you're with me, baby, the skies will be blue for all my life

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they tossed the dice
It had to be
The only one for me is you
And you for me
So happy together
...

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they tossed the dice
It had to be
The only one for me is you
And you for me
So happy together
So happy together
How is the weather?
So happy together
We're happy together
So happy together
We're happy together
So happy together
So happy together

[Hally]

it would be nice if ara monty and manasi showed up?
indeed

[Hally]

visor whatcha thinking

[Visor]

visor whatcha thinking

nothing

i'm tired and its the morning

i'm just here so i don't get fined