Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[Wisdom]

Why can't I make ` on letters >:

[noraplus]

(btw visor what game were you talking about where hk did something like this as a wolf? you remember?)

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37124-Draft-Mafia

[noraplus]

ok rask is v and wisdom seems town but i'll look over them again rq

[hollowkatt]

so why do you expect to be able to identify villa syn in 2 post?

I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

[hollowkatt]

I also soulread dya?s entrance as pure

I?m down to YOLO and add steam to the ?let?s lockclear dya off 1 post? train, with the caveat that we sus ladd/Wisdom if wrong and not me :2thumbsup:

why is it ok to soul read dya with one post as town but I'm getting literally railed for calling syn town? weird. might want to think about that one for a while. or not idgaf really.

[hollowkatt]

didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

probs yeah, which is why it was so successful, it's my town play. all I had to do was win the F3 at that point.

[noraplus]

wisdom's reason to v read syn is pretty sick if they're a wolf lol

[Wisdom]

wisdom's reason to v read syn is pretty sick if they're a wolf lol

Even better if HE's a wolf tbh!

[noraplus]

Even better if HE's a wolf tbh!

even better if the read is wrong?

[Wisdom]

even better if the read is wrong?

Oh don't mind me
I just don't like I don't really have a real read on him, just that Baudib's read is bad and makes Baudib town

[ladd]

I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

thats fair enuf. what I find kinda hard to come understand as something you believe is

1)


In all seriousness how familiar are you with Syn because for me this is solidly in his town play. I don't generally see wolf Syn fuck off and make those kinds of posts, at least not until they're more established in the game. I associate what he's said thus far with his town play, hence my post. Your mileage may vary.

te bolded above. saying syn is solidly in their town play after their first 2 posts seems wtf to me


2)


yeah I don't powerwolf, soz
tell you what, if you get syn chopped and he's a wolf I'll vote myself the next day till i die.

the confidence in this post is just..weird




pzelda

and now i am gonna make a wolfy vote on a wolf i have never talked about :curtain:

[ladd]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37124-Draft-Mafia

thx for the link btw

i got bored after reading 5 posts but maybe i'll give it a better look tomorrow

also have we played before?

[Ephemeral]

would it be fair of me to say c4 is probably a villager simply because his early game hasn't looked nearly as forced/awkward as the other recent game where he got caught d1

[Ephemeral]

thx for the link btw

i got bored after reading 5 posts but maybe i'll give it a better look tomorrow

also have we played before?

judging by wisdom's earlier post I'm guessing c4

lolme if not

[YOLOSWAG]

thats fair enuf. what I find kinda hard to come understand as something you believe is

1)



te bolded above. saying syn is solidly in their town play after their first 2 posts seems wtf to me


2)



the confidence in this post is just..weird




pzelda

and now i am gonna make a wolfy vote on a wolf i have never talked about :curtain:dang that was my secret wolfread too

[c4e5g3d5]

judging by wisdom's earlier post I'm guessing c4

lolme if not

preposterous of you to think so

[Ephemeral]

I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

but how did he meet that baseline to begin with?

or how did they villa tell otherwise?

[Ephemeral]

preposterous of you to think so

:2thumbsup:

[ladd]

judging by wisdom's earlier post I'm guessing c4

lolme if not

oh lmao

i do remember now that they are a c4 alt

i was gonna say they seem like a villager who will play a good game, guess now the pressure is on

[noraplus]

cap's reads were pretty weird yeah and the yolo tr for not using meta was particularly tmi'y, but part of me was thinking "does this fit with hk" just because tring a wolfbro for agreeing with their read is pretty bold

but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself on hk

[Raskolnikov]

oh lmao

i do remember now that they are a c4 alt

i was gonna say they seem like a villager who will play a good game, guess now the pressure is on

I do think he's been villagery so far.

[noraplus]

think ladd's town

[Wisdom]

C4 town, Dya town, Baudib town

At least one wolf in Ladd/PZelda/Logic

^ My best post so far, fight me Visor!:3

[Ephemeral]

didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

which game was that/where?

[YOLOSWAG]

Vote: pzelda

nora is c4? Okay

[Raskolnikov]

cap's reads were pretty weird yeah and the yolo tr for not using meta was particularly tmi'y, but part of me was thinking "does this fit with hk" just because tring a wolfbro for agreeing with their read is pretty bold

but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself on hk

actually even if he isn't with hk, pzelda (Capage)'s reason for TRing him is pretty slim. :sparkleshrug:

[ladd]

think ladd's town

https://media.giphy.com/media/iMJTuh4M6XmHzjVjN3/giphy.gif

[Ephemeral]

oh lmao

i do remember now that they are a c4 alt

i was gonna say they seem like a villager who will play a good game, guess now the pressure is on

~:cheers:

[Raskolnikov]

C4 town, Dya town, Baudib town

At least one wolf in Ladd/PZelda/Logic

^ My best post so far, fight me Visor!:3

hmmyes. Wisdom can be town for now too

[YOLOSWAG]

pzelda is capage?

oh man alright, here I thought I was playing with random cfc'ers lul

[ladd]

cap's reads were pretty weird yeah and the yolo tr for not using meta was particularly tmi'y, but part of me was thinking "does this fit with hk" just because tring a wolfbro for agreeing with their read is pretty bold

but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself on hk

ya i was thinking about that too

on level 0 i am inclined to think zelda/hk arent both wolves but ofc it's not impossible

[Raskolnikov]

pzelda is capage?

oh man alright, here I thought I was playing with random cfc'ers lul

He is one afaik (at least played and hosted a good chunck of games there)

[ladd]

zelda start seemed super struggly and then their read on YOLO is like - would a villager really care about that out of all the things itt?


+if my recollection isnt wrong zelda tends to be a (mostly) obvious villager as villa and an awkward wolf if wolf

tho i may be off on this last part, it's just from memory

[noraplus]

pzelda is capage?

oh man alright, here I thought I was playing with random cfc'ers lul

he was in the other org game i played, which was otherwise random cfc'ers, so i just assumed he is one lol

[Raskolnikov]

I'd want a tally rn.

But I want Visor to have the time.

[ladd]

me/nora/rask/yolo are prob all villas

with this gem i bid y'all adieu. I'll pop in when i can but i'll most likely be fully back only closer to EoD

[YOLOSWAG]

If nora is C4 then that's a thin V read too, feels freeflowy chill villa vibe

[noraplus]

zelda start seemed super struggly and then their read on YOLO is like - would a villager really care about that out of all the things itt?


+if my recollection isnt wrong zelda tends to be a (mostly) obvious villager as villa and an awkward wolf if wolf

tho i may be off on this last part, it's just from memory

i remember finding him pretty weird in the one game we played together, not this kind of weird tho, just sorta like he was off floatng in his own world and trying to communicate to him was a struggle

idk if that translates to anything meaningful here

[noraplus]

i gtg but i think it's been long enough to say hk's reentrance was bad lol

[Ephemeral]

rask
c4
baudib

~roughly where I'm at with villa leans rn

[Raskolnikov]

vote: dyachei

Why are you voting them instead of pzelda? (since you posted he was faking reads and nothing about Dya).

[Ephemeral]

could maybe see wisdom and yolo but i'd rather let that marinate for a bit

[Ephemeral]

zelda start seemed super struggly and then their read on YOLO is like - would a villager really care about that out of all the things itt?


+if my recollection isnt wrong zelda tends to be a (mostly) obvious villager as villa and an awkward wolf if wolf

tho i may be off on this last part, it's just from memory

i mean awkward is prolly the only way to describe their posts till now

so if that's his m.o as a wolf then lol

[Raskolnikov]

actually even if he isn't with hk, pzelda (Capage)'s reason for TRing him is pretty slim. :sparkleshrug:

noraplus: I didn't understand your post at first, but yeah you are getting ahead of yourself on hk. For science though: w!pzelda might just be trying to wifom some town spews down the road (ie. post a potato read on his wolf buddy to get the village to think he was actually TMIing him villa). But that's really a stretch. or gym. nvm

[Raskolnikov]

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

[YOLOSWAG]

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.https://media.tenor.com/j_TUtIOSyWQAAAAC/maybe-star-wars.gif

[Wisdom]

Schh Rask that's my secret maybe probably worthless read

[Ephemeral]

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/5c/93/715c93349442ee42983263c1295d5217.gif

spoiler footage of nl killing rask n1 for posting this

:curtain:

[Syn]

me/nora/rask/yolo are prob all villas

with this gem i bid y'all adieu. I'll pop in when i can but i'll most likely be fully back only closer to EoD

good news that you think you're probably a villager

[Syn]

Why are you voting them instead of pzelda? (since you posted he was faking reads and nothing about Dya).

soul reads bad

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

Syn 2 Visor baudib1
hollowkatt 2 noraplus EnderWiggin
pzelda 2 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG
Ladd 1 Wisdom
dyachei 1 Syn
Raskol 1 hollowkatt
No Lynch 1 Ephemeral


EOD: 2.2.23 7pm eastern (approx 26 hours, 20 minutes from now)

Should be right

[Raskolnikov]

THink Ladd voted pzelda but maybe there is a format issue

[noraplus]

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

his hk take seemed reductive, idt i have anything else against him

[noraplus]

i'll wait a little longer until i decide wisdom is obvious enough that i have to force them into everyone's town lists

ladd's posts just seem more r e a l than either of his wolf games i've seen and his takes are generally good

[Ephemeral]

i'll wait a little longer until i decide wisdom is obvious enough that i have to force them into everyone's town lists

ladd's posts just seem more r e a l than either of his wolf games i've seen and his takes are generally good

sell me on wisdom v?

I'm playing with the idea because of vague vibes/energy reads but I'm assuming their wolf game is better than that

[noraplus]

sell me on wisdom v?

I'm playing with the idea because of vague vibes/energy reads but I'm assuming their wolf game is better than that

yeah they're pretty good at recreating the same vibes at least

it's a bit tough to explain beyond: their solving is real? like i know they make some outlandish reads sometimes, but i feel like i can generally see where they come from, and it feels like they're flying on really specific gut urges that would be hard for a wolf to make up

like when they said "baudib's bad syn push made me biased toward syn v", that's maybe something a wolf would come up with specifically to pocket syn but i doubt it lol, i just think it's a really weird thought to have with tmi, and it lines up with the timing of their initial reads on syn and baudib too

[Visor]

ladd

this post (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37124-Draft-Mafia?p=6295037#post6295037) in particular (but really the a lot of the posts in that ISO leading up to it too)

[Visor]

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

Unsportsmanlike conduct, 15 votes, automatic first lynch.

[Ephemeral]

yeah they're pretty good at recreating the same vibes at least

it's a bit tough to explain beyond: their solving is real? like i know they make some outlandish reads sometimes, but i feel like i can generally see where they come from, and it feels like they're flying on really specific gut urges that would be hard for a wolf to make up

like when they said "baudib's bad syn push made me biased toward syn v", that's maybe something a wolf would come up with specifically to pocket syn but i doubt it lol, i just think it's a really weird thought to have with tmi, and it lines up with the timing of their initial reads on syn and baudib too

I think I can see where you're coming from with this yeah

alright thanks:2thumbsup:

[EnderWiggin]

can you elaborate on this?

HK as town tends to do risky/off the wall scumreads more than townreads, and very rarely do I see HK commit to a "THIS IS 100% TOWN" so early on D1.

Where as wolf I've seen him make that turn play more.

Hope that makes sense.

[EnderWiggin]

Dya v :3

Last time I saw this kind of read this early Dya was a wolf. :shot:

[Visor]

his hk take seemed reductive, idt i have anything else against him

i don't get it

[EnderWiggin]

didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

Yes.

This is exactly why I'm wolfreading him lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

fwiw wisdom basically always makes esoteric early v reads for hard-to-relate-to reasons at the starts of games

Agree.

I just put it out of mind and circle back later tbh.

[ladd]

ladd

this post (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37124-Draft-Mafia?p=6295037#post6295037) in particular (but really the a lot of the posts in that ISO leading up to it too)

Thanks that makes sense

Hk posts this game are def pretty rough

[Visor]

Thanks that makes sense

Hk posts this game are def pretty rough

where you at on pzelda?

[ladd]

where you at on pzelda?

I think he is wolfy

vote:pzelda

(I was already voting him but i formatted the vote badly)

[Raskolnikov]

Agree.

I just put it out of mind and circle back later tbh.

I am in board with the villa read on Wisdom'famgo though. (no immediate agenda aorn if I was to be concice).

[Visor]

nice

Vote: pzelda

[Raskolnikov]

i don't get it

could hear more about how you were reductive y :curtain:

[EnderWiggin]

Also going to add here that Ladd doesn't feel the same as they did last game. Which is probably silly but I'm inclined to lean v.

[Visor]

who is nora anyway

they seem extremely familiar

[Ephemeral]

Vote: Hollowkatt

:book2:

[Raskolnikov]

nice

Vote: pzelda

PLs kill me when he flips villa. (at night; spare me that D2)

[Raskolnikov]

who is nora anyway

they seem extremely familiar

C43chars

[Ephemeral]

who is nora anyway

they seem extremely familiar

chess guy

[EnderWiggin]

I have not much thought on pzelda but ngl the fact that the wagon showed up when HK was first getting voted too feels kinda weirdchamp.

[Visor]

ah

well noras posts are better than their last game so far LOL (though i think that game was prob an outlier)

guess we know nora/logic not w/w :curtain:

[noraplus]

i don't get it

it's just that "hk's read is wolfy because syn didn't do anything towny" seems like an overly simplistic take on that hk post, like villagers make wack reads all the time

and it also doesn't help how close it is to how you bussed hk last time lol

[Visor]

I have not much thought on pzelda but ngl the fact that the wagon showed up when HK was first getting voted too feels kinda weirdchamp.

then maybe you should get some thoughts on pzelda

[noraplus]

ah

well noras posts are better than their last game so far LOL (though i think that game was prob an outlier)

guess we know nora/logic not w/w :curtain:

my wolf game doesn't (always) suck

[Visor]

it's just that "hk's read is wolfy because syn didn't do anything towny" seems like an overly simplistic take on that hk post, like villagers make wack reads all the time

and it also doesn't help how close it is to how you bussed hk last time lol

i don't get why you think simple is bad

ofc villagers make whack reads all the time, thats not the point i was making (and not where villagers traditionally make whack reads anyway)

[Raskolnikov]

I have not much thought on pzelda but ngl the fact that the wagon showed up when HK was first getting voted too feels kinda weirdchamp.

Who are the wolves pushing on pzelda to save HK?
What's your read on the former?

[EnderWiggin]

then maybe you should get some thoughts on pzelda

Pzelda's wagon is suspiciously timed when HK was getting heat. I don't think the way the two interacted is w/w. Therefore Pzelda is town.

Am I misremembering or weren't you agreeing that HK's whole thing was sus? Why aren't you voting there?

[Visor]

i'm also not sure where you think the difference in my take on the read is compared to other peoples

because everyone else has also (correctly imo) pointed out how nonsensical the read is

[Visor]

Pzelda's wagon is suspiciously timed when HK was getting heat. I don't think the way the two interacted is w/w. Therefore Pzelda is town.

Am I misremembering or weren't you agreeing that HK's whole thing was sus? Why aren't you voting there?

suspiciously timed LOL

:really:

[EnderWiggin]

Who are the wolves pushing on pzelda to save HK?
What's your read on the former?

Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.

Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.

[Raskolnikov]

Pzelda's wagon is suspiciously timed when HK was getting heat. I don't think the way the two interacted is w/w. Therefore Pzelda is town.

Am I misremembering or weren't you agreeing that HK's whole thing was sus? Why aren't you voting there?

You are off regarding the timing of that wagon. Your Pzelda read is also constructed only with respect to their partner equity with hk who hasn't flipped wolf. :hmmno:

[EnderWiggin]

suspiciously timed LOL

:really:

Thread: HK Does a weird thing
People: Start to vote HK
Me: Starts to push HK
Other people: "So about this pzelda chump."

HK pressure suddenly dips.

If I'm right about HK being wolf then straight up it's suspicious that the pzelda sus started where it did.

[Ephemeral]

You are off regarding the timing of that wagon. Your Pzelda read is also constructed only with respect to their partner equity with hk who hasn't flipped wolf. :hmmno:

ya this

and tbh I don't think them being w/w is actually out of the question either so

[EnderWiggin]

You are off regarding the timing of that wagon. Your Pzelda read is also constructed only with respect to their partner equity with hk who hasn't flipped wolf. :hmmno:

?

I mean sure, it is constructed with that regard, but also I think HK is wolf so?

[Visor]

why can't we be villagers who think that pzelda is independently wolfy from hk

i don't care about interactions

[Raskolnikov]

Thread: HK Does a weird thing
People: Start to vote HK
Me: Starts to push HK
Other people: "So about this pzelda chump."

HK pressure suddenly dips.

If I'm right about HK being wolf then straight up it's suspicious that the pzelda sus started where it did.

ok fair. I can see where you are coming from. But to be blunt, pzelda sus started when he started posting :D (like read his first 3 posts lol)

[EnderWiggin]

ya this

and tbh I don't think them being w/w is actually out of the question either so

Okay I have had two people tell me I'm off regarding the timing of the wagon. I'mma be back after I double-check this.

[Visor]

you're basically saying the fact there is a counter wagon to the wagon you like is wolfy lol

[Ephemeral]

Okay I have had two people tell me I'm off regarding the timing of the wagon. I'mma be back after I double-check this.

more than the timing of the wagon imo you're writing them off as not w/w just a bit too easily tbh

[Raskolnikov]

?

I mean sure, it is constructed with that regard, but also I think HK is wolf so?

what Visor said. Why are you ruling out pzelda wolf?

I mean you can think of SRs on pzelda wagons based on your sus of HK. Maybe you are a passionate villager with a catch moment.

But maybe you are pzelda's partner trying to derail his wagon. Maybe there are both woofs and you a villager with a wrong clear? What do I know?

[EnderWiggin]

more than the timing of the wagon imo you're writing them off as not w/w just a bit too easily tbh

95%-ish of the time I never see a partner enter thread and have their *only read* being a weird townread on their partner.

That just... doesn't happen. I can think of less than the number of fingers on my hands that I've seen it live in my years of mafia.

[EnderWiggin]

you're basically saying the fact there is a counter wagon to the wagon you like is wolfy lol

"Oh man, I caught a wolf."

"Why are people building another wagon???"

[Raskolnikov]

Ephe, Visor, me ~:grouphug:

in wolf chat

[EnderWiggin]

what Visor said. Why are you ruling out pzelda wolf?

I mean you can think of SRs on pzelda wagons based on your sus of HK. Maybe you are a passionate villager with a catch moment.

But maybe you are pzelda's partner trying to derail his wagon. Maybe there are both woofs and you a villager with a wrong clear? What do I know?

See my response to Ephe.

Also, remember when I snap-read you as wolf off your opening reads in...

That mecha game, I think?

Took me days to get people to agree enough to actually push you over?

Somehow always alternate wagons would get ahead and people would lose track of the sus on you despite no one hard defending you?

That's what I'm feeling rn.

[Visor]

"Oh man, I caught a wolf."

"Why are people building another wagon???"

wat

this is ww bronana, people build multiple wagons

you're telling me you honestly think that a counter wagon to a wagon you like is wolfy?

you've been in hundreds of ww games, of which pretty much all have multiple wagons d1

man i don't know what to make of any of your posts on this page lol

[Visor]

i mean i don't even disagree with you that i think hk is wolfy

i just have thoughts on other slots too and hkatt has gotten plenty of attention this game already

[hollowkatt]

Who are the wolves pushing on pzelda to save HK?
What's your read on the former?

why would wolves save me here when they can get on board with "wow hk looks so similar to this specific wolf game" reads and push me across the line?
Assuming I'm wolfing here don't they get some credit for that chop/push?
Conversely if I'm town they can brush their hands off and go "meh he looked really bad" and nobody cares. There's no real point from a wolf perspective to save me afaict

[Ephemeral]

Ephe, Visor, me ~:grouphug:

in wolf chat

the dream team

[Raskolnikov]

See my response to Ephe.

Also, remember when I snap-read you as wolf off your opening reads in...

That mecha game, I think?

Took me days to get people to agree enough to actually push you over?

Somehow always alternate wagons would get ahead and people would lose track of the sus on you despite no one hard defending you?

That's what I'm feeling rn.

I don't remember, sorry.

rofl. But I was HK's partner ;) Would have taken more days if I wasn't cleaning a broken glass from the kiddos at EOD lol If not Michelle too lmao

[Ephemeral]

why would wolves save me here when they can get on board with "wow hk looks so similar to this specific wolf game" reads and push me across the line?
Assuming I'm wolfing here don't they get some credit for that chop/push?
Conversely if I'm town they can brush their hands off and go "meh he looked really bad" and nobody cares. There's no real point from a wolf perspective to save me afaict

would like some holistic thoughts from you on the game when you can mate

[EnderWiggin]

wat

this is ww bronana, people build multiple wagons

you're telling me you honestly think that a counter wagon to a wagon you like is wolfy?

you've been in hundreds of ww games, of which pretty much all have multiple wagons d1

man i don't know what to make of any of your posts on this page lol

Counterwagons happen.

Wolves also push positions to shield friends in tight spots.

Is it possible that the pzelda wagon is pure? Sure.

Is it possible I'm wrong on them not being w/w? Sure.

But if I think a wolf has made a gaffe on D1 and rightfully drawn ire for it, the first thing I look for is how people divert attention.

I literally USED this tactic in G1 of Champs to avoid being D1'd when I fucked up my entrance. DK and Cobalt distracted attention and worked with me to diffuse how badly my start had fucked me.

[Raskolnikov]

why would wolves save me here when they can get on board with "wow hk looks so similar to this specific wolf game" reads and push me across the line?
Assuming I'm wolfing here don't they get some credit for that chop/push?
Conversely if I'm town they can brush their hands off and go "meh he looked really bad" and nobody cares. There's no real point from a wolf perspective to save me afaict

Read the convo. That's actually what I am implying. I fail to see why Blade had this thought in the first place. Hence my ping. (pretty sure Visor is town for having the exact same ping live. or that's impressive tbh. Ephe too though less sure)

[Raskolnikov]

Read the convo. That's actually what I am implying. I fail to see why Blade had this thought in the first place. Hence my ping. (pretty sure Visor is town for having the exact same ping live. or that's impressive tbh. Ephe too though less sure)

My first thought was "oh, Ender is really going out of his way to prevent pzelda to be a thing" fwiw.

[EnderWiggin]

Read the convo. That's actually what I am implying. I fail to see why Blade had this thought in the first place. Hence my ping. (pretty sure Visor is town for having the exact same ping live. or that's impressive tbh. Ephe too though less sure)

You.

Literally.

Were in a wolf team with HK that did exactly this.

[Raskolnikov]

Counterwagons happen.

Wolves also push positions to shield friends in tight spots.

Is it possible that the pzelda wagon is pure? Sure.

Is it possible I'm wrong on them not being w/w? Sure.

But if I think a wolf has made a gaffe on D1 and rightfully drawn ire for it, the first thing I look for is how people divert attention.

I literally USED this tactic in G1 of Champs to avoid being D1'd when I fucked up my entrance. DK and Cobalt distracted attention and worked with me to diffuse how badly my start had fucked me.

100%

But again read Pzelda's post. FR I am not debating whose entrance was the worst lol (anymore at least :curtain:)

[Raskolnikov]

You.

Literally.

Were in a wolf team with HK that did exactly this.

I don't remember, sorry. :curtain:

[hollowkatt]

why would wolves save me here when they can get on board with "wow hk looks so similar to this specific wolf game" reads and push me across the line?
Assuming I'm wolfing here don't they get some credit for that chop/push?
Conversely if I'm town they can brush their hands off and go "meh he looked really bad" and nobody cares. There's no real point from a wolf perspective to save me afaict

Like the only way that would make sense is if I'm wolf PR and I would hope that my game is good enough that I wouldn't fuck up playing PR that quickly

[hollowkatt]

My first thought was "oh, Ender is really going out of his way to prevent pzelda to be a thing" fwiw.


Read the convo. That's actually what I am implying. I fail to see why Blade had this thought in the first place. Hence my ping. (pretty sure Visor is town for having the exact same ping live. or that's impressive tbh. Ephe too though less sure)

Yeah that wasn't necessarily directed at you, just that you'd made a post I wanted to riff off of.
enderwiggan

you should know better

[EnderWiggin]

Like the only way that would make sense is if I'm wolf PR and I would hope that my game is good enough that I wouldn't fuck up playing PR that quickly

Every wolf is a PR.

What is this attempted dumbtell?

[hollowkatt]

You.

Literally.

Were in a wolf team with HK that did exactly this.

bold of you to imply raskol has a memory better than a goldfish

[hollowkatt]

Every wolf is a PR.

What is this attempted dumbtell?

I'd call it a successful dumbtell but I'm also personally invested in it being read that way.

[EnderWiggin]

bold of you to imply raskol has a memory better than a goldfish

Raskol has already responded to a different post implying memory of the game including events that I didn't mention.

[Raskolnikov]

You.

Literally.

Were in a wolf team with HK that did exactly this.

let me rephrase what I said to HK. It's not "I fail to see how Blade had this thought". It's more "I fail to see why he doesn't consider the other plausible possibilities". You think Pzelda's wagon is wolf driven. fair (and I already told you I now see where you are coming from). I just thought your initial post were agenda drive (because I didn't share your evaluation of the timing of that wagon and because I am not sure HK is actually a wolf).

[Visor]

Also going to add here that Ladd doesn't feel the same as they did last game. Which is probably silly but I'm inclined to lean v.


Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.

Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/J5xVN35LXqTyE/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952bp9kwycw1w5iqaxso9wf1mgz3uuj6yh5p77udsu7&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[Ephemeral]

Vote: Pzelda

[EnderWiggin]

100%

But again read Pzelda's post. FR I am not debating whose entrance was the worst lol (anymore at least :curtain:)

Look. If I go back and just read Pzelda's posts, I agree. That whole back-and-forth around you being "eager" is weird as fuck.

And the "On the topic of tryharding" bit.

Hm.

[EnderWiggin]

Also, I actually thought pzelda had posted some before the sus hits them but Rask was onto it immediately and Visor not long after.

Hm.

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Pzelda

[Raskolnikov]

lol

[YOLOSWAG]

lmao

[EnderWiggin]

Also regardless of how this all turns out, Rask is so 100% town I'm never backing down from this read.

[Ephemeral]

exciting turn of events ain't it

[Syn]

chief wiggin kinda wolfy

[Ephemeral]

for those more familiar with them

is it within ender's w range to loudly defend a partner for a solid hour(?) and then to immediately swap to a bus when they realize it's not working?

[EnderWiggin]

for those more familiar with them

is it within ender's w range to loudly defend a partner for a solid hour(?) and then to immediately swap to a bus when they realize it's not working?

Yes

[Ephemeral]

Yes

https://media.tenor.com/rchQHaaWfHMAAAAC/noted-critmaw.gif

[Raskolnikov]

for those more familiar with them

is it within ender's w range to loudly defend a partner for a solid hour(?) and then to immediately swap to a bus when they realize it's not working?

He is definatly a good wolf (I forgot about champ D1 too, even the bet I won tx to it), so there is that.

[Raskolnikov]

He is definatly a good wolf (I forgot about champ D1 too, even the bet I won tx to it), so there is that.

*G1 (might start saving post for l8r)

[baudib1]

Firefighter wolf is worse than a vanilla wolf.

[baudib1]

Thread: HK Does a weird thing
People: Start to vote HK
Me: Starts to push HK
Other people: "So about this pzelda chump."

HK pressure suddenly dips.

If I'm right about HK being wolf then straight up it's suspicious that the pzelda sus started where it did.

This feels like a made-up read. Like what.

[baudib1]

why is it ok to soul read dya with one post as town but I'm getting literally railed for calling syn town? weird. might want to think about that one for a while. or not idgaf really.

Dya?s opener was generically NAI while Syn?s opener was generically wolfy. And Ladd is known to have a godread on Dyachei, which had already been alluded to in the thread (by me) and he didn?t stake his life on it or try to deflect a light SR on her.

This has the faint whiff of mad for being caught for wrong reasons.

[baudib1]

Ladd deserves a townlean and I’m going to give it to him.

[SilverKeith]

Hello there.

So, who are the wolves?

[Syn]

Hello there.

So, who are the wolves?

enderwiggin and dyachei

[YOLOSWAG]

[QUOTE=Raskolnikov;2053840626]Ephe, Visor, me ~:grouphug:

in wolf chat[/QUOTE SilverKeith

Wolves outed but we're playing still as something of a werewolf exhibition bronana

[Visor]

Hello there.

So, who are the wolves?

https://media.tenor.com/UEuZiEd2ayAAAAAC/its-illegal-for-you-to-ask-me-that-i-think-you-should-leave.gif

[Logic]

I have read nothing, forgot I signed up, but I am here now to make my presence known and contribute in any way I can.

[Visor]

13. Visor
10. Raskolnikov

6. Ladd

1. baudib1

4. Ephemeral

------

8. noraplus
12. Syn
14. Wisdom

---------

2. Dyachei
7. Logic
11. Silverkeith

-------------

15. Yoloswag

-------------

9. PZelda
5. Hollowkatt
3. EnderWiggin

think this is where i'm at roughly?

dya grouping is straight null

no ordering in tiers

v likely wrong, just trying to order my thoughts

don't have a strong opinion on wisdom, nora or syns posts so far, kinda hoping they'll do something, but posts seem.... alright for now

[Visor]

prob wanting eph to be a villager moer than i should rn but idk hes been on the same things as i have and his posts are fine

[Visor]

bit of a lzy read but yolo kinda seems a little.... idk going through the motions isnt exactly it but they're like there in thread but just not doin a whole lot

[dyachei]

which game was that/where?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154761-Casual-december-game

and fwiw, I nailed him in that game but i was main pack wolf. I feel like he's already admitted that he is acting the same here.

he'll probably omgus me for pushing him

[dyachei]

vote: hk

[Visor]

yo dya whats your thoughts on yolo, eph, ender and pzelda

[dyachei]

yo dya whats your thoughts on yolo, eph, ender and pzelda

idk on pzelda. Eph is kind of meh so far. yolo ok so far but hasnt done much. Ender im terrible at reading

[Visor]

why is eph meh

[dyachei]

why is eph meh

i dont really think he's trying to do any solving. he exists and that's kind of it to me?

[Visor]

i dont really think he's trying to do any solving. he exists and that's kind of it to me?

hmm. i can kinda see that, but i have yolo in that category more than eph

i think ephs been just sorta contributing here and there when he has something to say

[baudib1]

bit of a lzy read but yolo kinda seems a little.... idk going through the motions isnt exactly it but they're like there in thread but just not doin a whole lot

I agree but the thing is YOLO is probably more excited to play as a wolf.

[baudib1]

Visor deserves a townlean and I’m not going to give it to him.

[Visor]

Visor deserves a townlean and I?m not going to give it to him.

https://i.imgur.com/Tfv3d8Y.png

[baudib1]

Dya?s opener was generically NAI while Syn?s opener was generically wolfy. And Ladd is known to have a godread on Dyachei, which had already been alluded to in the thread (by me) and he didn?t stake his life on it or try to deflect a light SR on her.

This has the faint whiff of mad for being caught for wrong reasons.

Bump for Hollowkatt is frozen and crying again.

[dyachei]

i dont really get why people want to push visor rn. like i dont think he's clear but I dont think he's wolfy

[baudib1]

i dont really get why people want to push visor rn. like i dont think he's clear but I dont think he's wolfy

He’s been fine but he’s a slimy soab at heart tbh.

[noraplus]

i don't get why you think simple is bad

ofc villagers make whack reads all the time, thats not the point i was making (and not where villagers traditionally make whack reads anyway)

simple isn't bad but i'm just saying i thought that was simpler than the actual reason it was wolfy

[Visor]

i dont really get why people want to push visor rn. like i dont think he's clear but I dont think he's wolfy

(i dont think anyone actually thinks im wolfy or a wolf, people just naturally dislike clearing me regardless of what i do lol)

its racism

[baudib1]

I have dya as a reasonably high confidence TR and I don?t even need Ladd to help me get there.

Baudib1
Rask
Dyachei
Ladd
Wisdom
Visor
Nora
Ephemeral

YOLO
Syn
Logic
Silverkeith

Pzelda
Ender
Hollowkatt

[Visor]

did you just copy my list exactly LOL

[dyachei]

is noraplus an alt?

[baudib1]

(i dont think anyone actually thinks im wolfy or a wolf, people just naturally dislike clearing me regardless of what i do lol)

its racism

ur literally a colonizer buddy back off

[Visor]

is noraplus an alt?

c4 apparently

[noraplus]

i'm also not sure where you think the difference in my take on the read is compared to other peoples

because everyone else has also (correctly imo) pointed out how nonsensical the read is

i mean iirc baudib/ladd said something along the lines of "this confidence is weird" which is like, at least a little more directly about what was in hk's posts lol

[Visor]

ur literally a colonizer buddy back off

you just culturally appropriated my reads list

[noraplus]

(yeah i'm c4 lol)

[Visor]

i mean iirc baudib/ladd said something along the lines of "this confidence is weird" which is like, at least a little more directly about what was in hk's posts lol

i guess i just don't see the difference in what i said compared to what they said

its the same thing to me

[baudib1]

you just culturally appropriated my reads list

I realize my wolf list is super consensus-y but I helped out HK if he?s a wolf so I don?t care cuz I?m dripping with villager entitlement. Ffs

[dyachei]

c4 apparently

did...i imagine seeing c4 post in the thread on their main?

[baudib1]

did...i imagine seeing c4 post in the thread on their main?

Yes that happened.

[baudib1]

Dyachei I pinged you in Boomer invitational thread, we’re shooting for late Feb start.

[dyachei]

Dyachei I pinged you in Boomer invitational thread, we’re shooting for late Feb start.

that's fine. I saw the ping and then promptly forgot to answer because I was taking care of the little one

[baudib1]

Visor the latest mash I’m rereleasing is Baldur’s Gate. I don’t remember we but I’m reading you V early on, and I know we stomped the wilfs that game. lolCDL

[noraplus]

i guess i just don't see the difference in what i said compared to what they said

its the same thing to me

it felt like you were saying "hk is wolfy for doing something he shouldn't have" and they were saying "hk is wolfy for doing something weird" but i may have misinterpreted what you were saying

[YOLOSWAG]

Is remarkableness a word? I agree that HK is crying. He's a sensitive fella. Not sure if he lives up north enough to be frozen.

[QUOTE=pzelda;2053840413]I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).[/QUOTE pzelda

Can you talk me through your process/language on the underlined? Was there something about the HK/Syn interaction that made you think both were villagery initially?


I have thoughts on the first post for later, putting this down for own reference

[YOLOSWAG]

Why tf does this site keep killin my quotes

[noraplus]

i feel like i'm about to tie myself to him but i don't think ender's thing was that bad lol

[YOLOSWAG]

why is it ok to soul read dya with one post as town but I'm getting literally railed for calling syn town? weird. might want to think about that one for a while. or not idgaf really.Is this a general sentiment of being wronged by the village or shading of me? Or are you saying wolves are pushing you?

I remember you being pretty solvey as town, you seem to have shut down here after some early pressure, sup

[Logic]

Visor the latest mash I’m rereleasing is Baldur’s Gate. I don’t remember we but I’m reading you V early on, and I know we stomped the wilfs that game. lolCDL

Ping me for Baldur's Gate baudib1

[noraplus]

i actually kinda wanna believe hk's derp, it's just the rest of his posts suck and i know he can post better as town

but maybe cap's a wolf and tmi'd him, i'm not confident on what to do between the two

[noraplus]

I have dya as a reasonably high confidence TR and I don?t even need Ladd to help me get there.

Baudib1
Rask
Dyachei
Ladd
Wisdom
Visor
Nora
Ephemeral

baudib1 do you know how much you can explain the dya read, their posts just seem fine to me so far and i have an abysmal track record reading them

i generally agree with the rest of this

[YOLOSWAG]

bit of a lzy read but yolo kinda seems a little.... idk going through the motions isnt exactly it but they're like there in thread but just not doin a whole lotThis game is thin as hell and I'm fine with the direction/consensus of the game (namely think pzelda is a good D1 regardless of alignment and that the villagery people are correctly being villa read), I'm not doing much cuz there ain't much to do

But if you want my take(s) on something specific hmu

[noraplus]

my strongest reads haven't really changed, rask and wisdom are town and ladd probably is

eph and yolo generally feel like they line up with villagers taking it easy but trying to be helpful, probably not the best reads but

[YOLOSWAG]

my strongest reads haven't really changed, rask and wisdom are town and ladd probably is

eph and yolo generally feel like they line up with villagers taking it easy but trying to be helpful, probably not the best reads butWhich read(s) are not the best?

[noraplus]

yolo thoughts on cap vs hk? if you want

[noraplus]

Which read(s) are not the best?

my reads on you and eph lol

[YOLOSWAG]

yolo thoughts on cap vs hk? if you wantThey can both die and idc

that is my honest answer. pzelda if you want a preference/pending a response from HK

[YOLOSWAG]

i feel like i'm about to tie myself to him but i don't think ender's thing was that bad lolI was playing with the idea that this:


Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.

Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.might be towny. I think Ender stretched at times but I'm not sure it's a wolf versus a villager who's experiencing paranoia/skepticism of wagon formations and trying to find non-consensus wolves off it

Basically I'm asking myself why Ender does this as a wolf unless it's specifically to deflect from a partner (I am not sure how Ender tends to treat his bros as a wolf, would appreciate any meta on this)

[baudib1]

baudib1 do you know how much you can explain the dya read, their posts just seem fine to me so far and i have an abysmal track record reading them

i generally agree with the rest of this

I don’t think I can articulate it too well but I think as one of the last people to enter the thread she seems to have just slipped j to a comfortable V!dya mode and also came up with a couple of reasonably independent thoughts.

[Visor]

I was playing with the idea that this:

might be towny. I think Ender stretched at times but I'm not sure it's a wolf versus a villager who's experiencing paranoia/skepticism of wagon formations and trying to find non-consensus wolves off it

Basically I'm asking myself why Ender does this as a wolf unless it's specifically to deflect from a partner (I am not sure how Ender tends to treat his bros as a wolf, would appreciate any meta on this)

i mean enders posts are just wild lol

they're so wild i could see them just being.... like tunnel focused/blinded villa but still ridiculous lol

[YOLOSWAG]

Look. If I go back and just read Pzelda's posts, I agree. That whole back-and-forth around you being "eager" is weird as fuck.

And the "On the topic of tryharding" bit.

Hm.
Also, I actually thought pzelda had posted some before the sus hits them but Rask was onto it immediately and Visor not long after.

Hm.
Vote: PzeldaLMAO

I'ma be real I don't usually see wolves this brazen with 180s but I'm scared to V-read it 💀

[baudib1]

i mean enders posts are just wild lol

they're so wild i could see them just being.... like tunnel focused/blinded villa but still ridiculous lol

this post has a cromulent amount of swag

[YOLOSWAG]

I mostly just want to hear from HK at this point, kinda wish I had read this game earlier because I think content from HK/Syn is needed to advance the gamestate but we're not getting enough

Beyond that I think Wisdom had a villagery post earlier where she postulated wolves in ladd/pzelda/logic -- I cannot find the words as to why that was villagery but for Wisdom specifically I think it is

Ephe I agree has been middle of the pack but he might also be chill villager like me so he's existing in this 'let him be, a read will come' headspace for me which is kinda funny cuz he did the same to me earlier

Visor is a weak V read, kinda surprised I'm lower than SK/Logic/Syn but his wrestling with me/Ephem shows some nuance, lettuce see what comes of it

That's all off the top of my head

[ladd]

i feel like i'm about to tie myself to him but i don't think ender's thing was that bad lol

Agree

I thought he was p villagery honestly

Hk posts keep being rough, idrc for the "dumbtell"

[Visor]

I mostly just want to hear from HK at this point, kinda wish I had read this game earlier because I think content from HK/Syn is needed to advance the gamestate but we're not getting enough

Beyond that I think Wisdom had a villagery post earlier where she postulated wolves in ladd/pzelda/logic -- I cannot find the words as to why that was villagery but for Wisdom specifically I think it is

Ephe I agree has been middle of the pack but he might also be chill villager like me so he's existing in this 'let him be, a read will come' headspace for me which is kinda funny cuz he did the same to me earlier

Visor is a weak V read, kinda surprised I'm lower than SK/Logic/Syn but his wrestling with me/Ephem shows some nuance, lettuce see what comes of it

That's all off the top of my head

they're more true neutral and you're neutral wolfy

if you get what i mean

they ahvent done enough (or anything for me to have a read on them), whereas i have a niggling feeling on you

i agree w/ladd about the derptell thing too fwiw

[Syn]

bit of a lzy read but yolo kinda seems a little.... idk going through the motions isnt exactly it but they're like there in thread but just not doin a whole lot

yolo town

[baudib1]

My werewolf super power is remembering the wolves everyone else is ignoring so I’ll point out they Logic has roughly two posts and zero content.

[YOLOSWAG]

they're more true neutral and you're neutral wolfy

if you get what i mean

they ahvent done enough (or anything for me to have a read on them), whereas i have a niggling feeling on you

i agree w/ladd about the derptell thing too fwiwAlright

Out of curiosity: how much is meta a factor to this, if at all?

[noraplus]

yolo's posts about ender were pretty good btw

[Visor]

Alright

Out of curiosity: how much is meta a factor to this, if at all?

zero tbh

its just the vibe i got from reading the thread

[YOLOSWAG]

zero tbh

its just the vibe i got from reading the threadMm

I was thinking earlier about how the people I've played more with don't really have me as hard town (except ladd) while the people who don't have as much experience with me do and was wondering how much (lack of) meta was a factor in that if it was at all

But it's fine I get how I could fit a wolf archetype in the context of this game, see you at EOD :curtain:

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Syn 1 baudib1
Ladd 1 Wisdom
dyachei 1 Syn
Raskol 1 hollowkatt


I believe this is correct.

EOD in approx 18hr, 40min

[Logic]

I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

I like yoloswag on this page. I'll give him a V-read.

Visor thanking posts seems hmmmmm.

C4 seems a tad more free flowing than the invitational where I just wolfed with him. I'll sort him town and not regret that today.

I see pzelda has a wagon, but I have seen zero posts since I jumped in, so I may just bow to consensus there, because I tend to V-read him regardless of his alignment.

[noraplus]

oh no lol

[Logic]

ZERO content on page 1 and I'm on 80ppp.

C'mon guys! We have a postcap and this is how you start the game?

[noraplus]

how much have you read logic

[Syn]

vote: EnderWiggin

[baudib1]

I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

I like yoloswag on this page. I'll give him a V-read.

Visor thanking posts seems hmmmmm.

C4 seems a tad more free flowing than the invitational where I just wolfed with him. I'll sort him town and not regret that today.

I see pzelda has a wagon, but I have seen zero posts since I jumped in, so I may just bow to consensus there, because I tend to V-read him regardless of his alignment.

That was me not ender.

[noraplus]

how much have you read logic
Logic

[Visor]

I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

I like yoloswag on this page. I'll give him a V-read.

Visor thanking posts seems hmmmmm.

C4 seems a tad more free flowing than the invitational where I just wolfed with him. I'll sort him town and not regret that today.

I see pzelda has a wagon, but I have seen zero posts since I jumped in, so I may just bow to consensus there, because I tend to V-read him regardless of his alignment.
walk me through that one chief

[Syn]

walk me through that one chief

step 1: hmmmmmm

[ladd]

walk me through that one chief

Lmao

Also we have a postcap? I shouls read OPs more carefully

[baudib1]

vote: logic

[noraplus]

how much have you read logic

i didn't think this was anything serious, but he started reading from the top like he was setting up to go through the whole thread, and it's been an hour

is he still trying to figure out where i think he slipped lmao

[ladd]

yolo/eph occupy a similar headspace for how they are playing but i think yolo is more tangibly villagery than eph (tho i havent played with eph in a while)

ender seems messy in a villagery way, his thought process was weird but believable to me. prob villa imo

every hk pop in it feels like he is just struggling to produce good content after the bad start

zelda wolf

c4 has reached lock clear levels to me. rask was already there


idr have much on a read on the visor/baudib/dya triumvirate. if i wanted to yolo it i'd say they are all villas but it'd be p lazy

syn kinda seems like someone who will eventually be cleared by spew

dont have much of a read on wisdom either


think thats all. i made myself more readable than othe rplayers so i'll count this as a win. ill be back for eod

[SilverKeith]

Currently catching up but I'll go to sleep in a bit so I won't elaborate about anything until later. I refuse to explain anything y'all just have to trust me.

Catch up I guess.

Hk/Baudib. Some stuff I've not liked from both. Not w/w.
It's hard to read some ppl in the first few pages mostly bc of a joke-ish tone. Not that I dislike it.

I liked Wisdom entrance even if they didn't really say anything. I think the spoilered comment is townie. I think Syn is like a bit >rand v also.

I've been enjoying some of raskolnikov posts, I'd townlean him for tone alone here.

I'm townlocking and never rescinding Eph on #169 alone. I'm only partially joking. Idk how to explain it, just don't think wolves often post stuff like that (as in, "was this the guy who x? if so, town") at least not to townread people. I guess I could see it as a weird w/w post but nah.

Not vibing with Yolo.

Randomly townlocking dya for their opening. I'm just quirky like that haha. This feels both correct and a bad play.

I've gone back to the interaction and confbiased myself into believing that Yolo is a wolf alongside Baudi.

I agreed with Ladd reads. I think he's town. Or at least he should be correct. Specifically him randomly buying Dya's first post. Makes me want to townread dya but less jokingly. I've decided Ladd is town.

WHAT THE FUCK YOLO talked about that too I thought me townreading dya off a post would be fun now it just looks like I faked a mindmeld or some shit.

Baudi randomly changing his vote to syn is sure... something. Kinda fucks with my earlier beliefs.

Not sure if I dig wisdom randomly calling ladd a wolf even if it's a joke.

I think C4 is okay. I decided to trust Eph initial read on them.

Ok so I've read half of the game which is enough for me to solve.

I think Baudi/Yolo are wolves. Maybe Visor is a wolf, unsure why, just think it'd make for a nice team.

Maybe HK is a wolf which would be interesting bc makes all the three ppl I meantioned early more townie... prolly. prolly?

I've no opinion on Logic. I think Pzelda is definitely a bit weird in their posting, but idk if the way they post is AI.

Everyone I've not mentioned I'm currently ok with.

Imagine my vote is on baudi here. Will vote later after finishing reading the game. Tho ppl townreading baudi makes me feel I might just be wrong on him since I've got no meta on him despite him being around I guess.

[SilverKeith]

ahhh

[noraplus]

ahhh

[SilverKeith]

Currently catching up but I'll go to sleep in a bit so I won't elaborate about anything until later. I refuse to explain anything y'all just have to trust me.

Catch up I guess.

Hk/Baudib. Some stuff I've not liked from both. Not w/w.
It's hard to read some ppl in the first few pages mostly bc of a joke-ish tone. Not that I dislike it.

I liked Wisdom entrance even if they didn't really say anything. I think the spoilered comment is townie. I think Syn is like a bit >rand v also.

I've been enjoying some of raskolnikov posts, I'd townlean him for tone alone here.

I'm townlocking and never rescinding Eph on #169 alone. I'm only partially joking. Idk how to explain it, just don't think wolves often post stuff like that (as in, "was this the guy who x? if so, town") at least not to townread people. I guess I could see it as a weird w/w post but nah.

Not vibing with Yolo.

Randomly townlocking dya for their opening. I'm just quirky like that haha. This feels both correct and a bad play.

I've gone back to the interaction and confbiased myself into believing that Yolo is a wolf alongside Baudi.

I agreed with Ladd reads. I think he's town. Or at least he should be correct. Specifically him randomly buying Dya's first post. Makes me want to townread dya but less jokingly. I've decided Ladd is town.

wtf YOLO talked about that too I thought me townreading dya off a post would be fun now it just looks like I faked a mindmeld or some shit.

Baudi randomly changing his vote to syn is sure... something. Kinda effs with my earlier beliefs.

Not sure if I dig wisdom randomly calling ladd a wolf even if it's a joke.

I think C4 is okay. I decided to trust Eph initial read on them.

Ok so I've read half of the game which is enough for me to solve.

I think Baudi/Yolo are wolves. Maybe Visor is a wolf, unsure why, just think it'd make for a nice team.

Maybe HK is a wolf which would be interesting bc makes all the three ppl I meantioned early more townie... prolly. prolly?

I've no opinion on Logic. I think Pzelda is definitely a bit weird in their posting, but idk if the way they post is AI.

Everyone I've not mentioned I'm currently ok with.

Imagine my vote is on baudi here. Will vote later after finishing reading the game. Tho ppl townreading baudi makes me feel I might just be wrong on him since I've got no meta on him despite him being around I guess.

[baudib1]

Ladd being noncommittal on me/Visor/dya is either V!Ladd not wanting to lock us in out of respect for our wolf game (although I’m surprised that he didn’t articulate that exact reason)
Or
W!Ladd trying to set up a thing where he can feel comfortable saying that there’s always 1 wolf in the 3 of us on future days.

Pretty weird fmpov as I think I’ve been easily the most aggressively pro-town player so far.

not to make too big a deal if it, because mostly I think that Ladd post was fine.

[noraplus]

rask
wisdom

ender
ladd
yolo

baudib
eph
sk
visor

all some amount of good

cap
logic

hk

immediate poe

that's about where i'm at

[Syn]

syn kinda seems like someone who will eventually be cleared by spew


spew below

https://i.imgur.com/SIt0wf6.png

[Syn]

rask
wisdom

ender
ladd
yolo

baudib
eph
sk
visor

all some amount of good

cap
logic

hk

immediate poe

that's about where i'm at

excuse me

[Syn]

I'm townlocking and never rescinding Eph on #169 alone. I'm only partially joking. Idk how to explain it, just don't think wolves often post stuff like that (as in, "was this the guy who x? if so, town") at least not to townread people. I guess I could see it as a weird w/w post but nah..

??? this happens all the time

in the circles I played with anyway

[Raskolnikov]

Ladd being noncommittal on me/Visor/dya is either V!Ladd not wanting to lock us in out of respect for our wolf game (although I?m surprised that he didn?t articulate that exact reason)
Or
W!Ladd trying to set up a thing where he can feel comfortable saying that there?s always 1 wolf in the 3 of us on future days.

Pretty weird fmpov as I think I?ve been easily the most aggressively pro-town player so far.

not to make too big a deal if it, because mostly I think that Ladd post was fine.

I'd say you are the most cromulent player so far tbh. "Most agressively protown player" is either a self perception bias or a just a show. (Read this not as a SR but I do think you want too much credit for what you have done so far)

I have a problem with Logic entrance btw. Like how many potatoes is this game roasting?

I am also leaning more villa about Ender than wolf. To be reevaled after pzelda flip.

Nora, the confidence line about HK was from me. Not Ladd or baudib. (Dont steal my bad takes :stare:)

[Ephemeral]

but how did he meet that baseline to begin with?

or how did they villa tell otherwise?


would like some holistic thoughts from you on the game when you can mate

hollowkatt

https://media1.giphy.com/media/XDY7T4JQJ8M5p3hA6n/giphy.gif

[noraplus]

p much lol

i can count how many things hk's talked about this game on, well, two fingers

[Ephemeral]

but how did he meet that baseline to begin with?

or how did they villa tell otherwise?


I was playing with the idea that this:

might be towny. I think Ender stretched at times but I'm not sure it's a wolf versus a villager who's experiencing paranoia/skepticism of wagon formations and trying to find non-consensus wolves off it

Basically I'm asking myself why Ender does this as a wolf unless it's specifically to deflect from a partner (I am not sure how Ender tends to treat his bros as a wolf, would appreciate any meta on this)

i asked a similar question after that whole exchange and apparently it's in his wolf range

though i'm going back and forth on it because in the moment I could easily see it as a villager who thinks they had a bone

the turnaround was... something

[Ephemeral]

lol quotes

[Ephemeral]

p much lol

i can count how many things hk's talked about this game on, well, two fingers

ya I didn't think much of it while he was in thread because i assumed he'd get to it later

but not even an acknowledgement

turns my smile upside down

[Ephemeral]

I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

I like yoloswag on this page. I'll give him a V-read.

Visor thanking posts seems hmmmmm.

C4 seems a tad more free flowing than the invitational where I just wolfed with him. I'll sort him town and not regret that today.

I see pzelda has a wagon, but I have seen zero posts since I jumped in, so I may just bow to consensus there, because I tend to V-read him regardless of his alignment.


ZERO content on page 1 and I'm on 80ppp.

C'mon guys! We have a postcap and this is how you start the game?

rough rand?

[noraplus]

ya I didn't think much of it while he was in thread because i assumed he'd get to it later

but not even an acknowledgement

turns my smile upside down

i was definitely bothered by it, like before any of the ender stuff happened all his posts were him defending himself for his syn read, but i was willing to give him more time

and at least he doubled the number of things he talked about with that time :wowee:

[Raskolnikov]

Just reread what has been posted overnight (last 3 pages on 20ppp). I actually think I am uncharitable with Baudib here. He IS louder than what he should (about his towniness) imo but actually he is prompt to push the stuff that needs to, so yeah. Have that town lean for now :bow:

I am more confortable with Yolo now too (particularly after his post about Ender, maybe because it's a mindmeld and also because I fail to see where he is going to with his reads if he is wolfing - convoluted wording for no immediate agenda that I can tell)

Ephe is an hard read and could go either way at this point. But he isn't a slot I am willing to (or need to fwiw) solve toDay.

Dya's entrance was hype, but they remain in wolf range imo. I don't think they have done anything that deserves a lock clear. Reeval later.

I am actually liking Syn's idgas attitude rn.

SK I don't have a read on.

Ender I have spoken about already.

Ladd's OK so far. HK I am leaning wolf but I wanna see what he does at EOD before commiting to an actual read, because he can just post like that as both alignments and won't be compeled to do anything about it lol.

Wisdom ok so far (tonal read). Don't wanna go there D1.

HK/Logic/Pzelda seems too obvious tbh.

[Raskolnikov]

Just reread what has been posted overnight (last 3 pages on 20ppp). I actually think I am uncharitable with Baudib here. He IS louder than what he should (about his towniness) imo but actually he is prompt to push the stuff that needs to, so yeah. Have that town lean for now :bow:

I am more confortable with Yolo now too (particularly after his post about Ender, maybe because it's a mindmeld and also because I fail to see where he is going to with his reads if he is wolfing - convoluted wording for no immediate agenda that I can tell)

Ephe is an hard read and could go either way at this point. But he isn't a slot I am willing to (or need to fwiw) solve toDay.

Dya's entrance was hype, but they remain in wolf range imo. I don't think they have done anything that deserves a lock clear. Reeval later.

I am actually liking Syn's idgas attitude rn.

SK I don't have a read on.

Ender I have spoken about already.

Ladd's OK so far. HK I am leaning wolf but I wanna see what he does at EOD before commiting to an actual read, because he can just post like that as both alignments and won't be compeled to do anything about it lol.

Wisdom ok so far (tonal read). Don't wanna go there D1.

HK/Logic/Pzelda seems too obvious tbh.

If you don't see your name above, consider yourself outed wolf :curtain:

[Wisdom]

I'm feeling a bit sick today, so not sure how active I can be (which is too bad since this was the part of today I was supposed to be active on). I saw the wagons, can't really read Cape (which is pzelda, right?) but if y'all think he's wolfing then go for it.

[Ephemeral]

fwiw I think SK's alright for now

[Raskolnikov]

I'm feeling a bit sick today, so not sure how active I can be (which is too bad since this was the part of today I was supposed to be active on). I saw the wagons, can't really read Cape (which is pzelda, right?) but if y'all think he's wolfing then go for it.

We will put you to rest at EOD, dw.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-9tFircRD0yApQm5jYLhM1Yn9APqp_PQHqQ&usqp=CAU

fr, get better sisbro

[Raskolnikov]

If you don't see your name above, consider yourself outed wolf :curtain:

f me. This was specifically directed to Visor, but I failed to mention nora in the above post lol. #humordrama

(leaning town on both rn)

[Raskolnikov]

fwiw I think SK's alright for now

why? His reason to clear you? (lol) :curtain:

(another digression, but it reminds me Visor never told you how much of a potato I am when woofing around, I am wondering why)

[Raskolnikov]

On second thought it's totally in Ender's range to whine about pzelda's wagon like he did AND be HK's partner. hmm Let me downgrade him to null at best. I need more content from him on other topics than HK/pzelda

[Visor]

On second thought it's totally in Ender's range to whine about pzelda's wagon like he did AND be HK's partner. hmm Let me downgrade him to null at best. I need more content from him on other topics than HK/pzelda

yeah would be nice to see him talk about other people (and perhaps their reactions to his posts)

[Visor]

dunno if ill be around for eod and a little worried havent seen pzelda pop back insince the first salvo but fine with either dying

[Visor]

fwiw I think SK's alright for now

eh, i got nothing from the catchup wall

the baudib susp was a little interesting i guess

[Ephemeral]

why? His reason to clear you? (lol) :curtain:

(another digression, but it reminds me Visor never told you how much of a potato I am when woofing around, I am wondering why)

yes :curtain:

I thought his post gave off a "off in his own world" feeling reads-wise and not the bad kind, just about enough for me to not be overly concerned atm, though he's not super engaged yet so we'll see where it goes

as for the nl thing I just went back and quickly skimmed that one hydra game where you were wolfing against me/visor and your posts were actually much better than I gave you credit for at first lol, but it does help that you got villagery enough in the meantime that I don't feel the need to wrestle with that thought atp

funnily enough you were hydraing with hk that lol

[Raskolnikov]

I think Baudi/Yolo are wolves. Maybe Visor is a wolf, unsure why, just think it'd make for a nice team.

Sup, would you tell me more about this when you wake up pls? (like I am not leaning this way, but it's something I have been entertaining too in my head and I am ready to revisit if we appear to be flipping villas. - mostly out of the terrible feeling of being an ez pocket for Visor and swag - and being weirded out by baudib 'I am so town' attitude tbh).

[Ephemeral]

dya's posts generally make me feel nothing

but them refusing to v read me actually feels pretty on brand sadly