Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[EnderWiggin]

Why was dya a wolf for you?

Didn't have an explicit scumread on them?

I just didn't have a townread.

I am historically terrible at reading Dya tho.

[YOLOSWAG]

I’ll burn one of my last posts here cuz, lmao.

Pretty incredible parlay of events but like, we can talk about the whole thing openly in postgame cuz I’d love to hear mods’ takes.

1. I intentionally derped around Rask’s copypasta and I have to say it was pretty elite cover for myself tbh. (lol Rask)
2. When people said SK is an elite wolf I assumed he would holster so I couldn’t use that result as a clear, and I wanted to use his “infolynch” as a double peek on Visor/Yolo.
3. I tried to hero it because I really thought Visor could be deepwolfing (look where I said he’s a slimy soab near EOD, when I would obviously never besmirch them upstanding reputation of monsieur non lynches in such a way). Alas I got a negative but it’s a green check. My big post about him was a fake progression so that my play doesn’t look seery. I was going to leave a final readslist where I said Rask was laddpeaked and Visor was Baudpeaked.
4. Visor knows me well enough that he recognizes my PR softs and I was loling about his MD trolls and knew he would try to fake claim.
5. I think my claim was fine tbh, there were other aspects we can discuss later.
6. In the interest of due diligence, in the unlikely event we hit a wolf tonight and I’m still alive, I’ll check Ephemeral, or rand it between him and Yolo. If anyone thinks this isn’t optimal, let me know.
7. Rask, idfk you’re doing because it’s been obvious to anyone with a brain that Syn has been the outed JOAT since mid-Day 2.

bonne chance bonne chancepeek me

[Raskolnikov]

https://i.imgur.com/e2flPPk.png

[YOLOSWAG]

I thought Ephemeral might have been a pr

Lul

[Visor]

Vote: hollowkatt

[Visor]

If HK is wolf then PZelda has done something I haven't seen from them before as wolf.

i dont understand why this is such a factor in your read

just cause you haven't seen someone do somethign doesn't mean it isnt possible

[Visor]

Vote: EnderKatt

[baudib1]

oh man I made an epic blunder. I was thinking the wolves could have already tried to PR shoot him and knew he was VT. But uhhhhh I’m not sure why I thought that would matter lmao. lolme

So I punted but w/e I don’t think it will matter.

Yolo, I think I’m pretty good on you, don’t stress.

My impression was you were crumbling under light pressure and trolling from ladd so I took it wrong.

[EnderWiggin]

i dont understand why this is such a factor in your read

just cause you haven't seen someone do somethign doesn't mean it isnt possible

When it's something I don't expect most wolves to do not having ever seen something like that from someone is a read that has worked a decent amount.

[Ephemeral]

ANYWAY with all that said

boy hollowkatt did nothing today lol

hk2.png

[EnderWiggin]

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?

[EnderWiggin]

Probably my last post for the day phase as I got training again early and can't be on comp/phone for it.

Maybe I'll show up 3-ish hours before EOD depending on how I feel when I wake up.

Gl, gnight.

[Raskolnikov]

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?

What did you think of the posts I made about Swag toDay?

[dyachei]

so ender comes in and disagrees with my rask read...but doesn't comment at all about how when I reread rask, I dismissed my concerns about him entirely.

interesting

[dyachei]

rask what do you think of ender's re-entry today?

[Raskolnikov]

What did you think of the posts I made about Swag toDay?

Also what is it with the tone of this post? Like you, me, we all know HK is going to die today, so what's up?

[Raskolnikov]

rask what do you think of ender's re-entry today?

wolfy, but I am struggling to seperate the wolfy from the resigned villager hence my questions to him

[dyachei]

it really strikes me as weird that if ender *is* a villager, he can't see the issues with HK clearly and sees HK as a villager, too. This is part of what is making me think w/w is a possibility there. Ender keeps defending HK when *if* he is a villager, he wouldnt know HK's alignment and should want to self-pres on hk. Or re-eval HK to see what he's missing

[EnderWiggin]

What did you think of the posts I made about Swag toDay?

I thought the HK interactions thing was interesting, but tbh I don't remember much else of it?

If there was anything else poignant I somehow glazed over it.

[EnderWiggin]

Yeah I wasn't sleeping and came back to thread like a dumbass.

[EnderWiggin]

so ender comes in and disagrees with my rask read...but doesn't comment at all about how when I reread rask, I dismissed my concerns about him entirely.

interesting

It was better and I was trying to catchup because people started talking about claims lol.

But also didn't tick the bar much because it could be busywork "Oh man I sus Rask randomly, whoops guess not!"

Just.

Didn't do much for me?

[EnderWiggin]

Also what is it with the tone of this post? Like you, me, we all know HK is going to die today, so what's up?

Eh?

Ngl I'm under the impression I probably go over today. Got like 3 core people that want me, HK probably will self-pres on me, and if any of you/Visor/etc decide to vote me I'm lightly toasted.

[dyachei]

It was better and I was trying to catchup because people started talking about claims lol.

But also didn't tick the bar much because it could be busywork "Oh man I sus Rask randomly, whoops guess not!"

Just.

Didn't do much for me?

lol

ok but you literally shaded me for the former and made NO comment about the latter

[baudib1]

lol

ok but you literally shaded me for the former and made NO comment about the latter

It’s because he’s a wolf, it’s his job tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

it really strikes me as weird that if ender *is* a villager, he can't see the issues with HK clearly and sees HK as a villager, too. This is part of what is making me think w/w is a possibility there. Ender keeps defending HK when *if* he is a villager, he wouldnt know HK's alignment and should want to self-pres on hk. Or re-eval HK to see what he's missing

In champs my biggest issue was being right and then letting others sway me into letting my reads go.

In the recent Anon game I wagoned all the wolves D1 but let people sway me off them.

I'm not saying I'm always right. Absolutely not. But I'm sick of feeling "what if"s about sticking to my guns when I have a good read or feeling.

And the fact that it was me/HK in the POE when I had that made me feel very much like a "me against the world" situation.

The fact that the likely clear-status of the main core of people I suspected to be corrupt and the growing chance I was just wrong (or right depending on how you look at it.) on HK? Makes me feel pretty shit.

Part of me figures that if I just vanity and go down today it'll mean I'm no longer in this mess and you guys still have enough steam + POE to resolve the game.

Honestly sounds kinda selfish when I lay it out like that rip.

[EnderWiggin]

lol

ok but you literally shaded me for the former and made NO comment about the latter

Sue me.

I didn't see the need to comment on it, especially when I decided my tinfoil theory has been wrong and therefore there's a bunch of town telling me you're town.

[EnderWiggin]

It’s because he’s a wolf, it’s his job tbh.

AWoooooooo

[EnderWiggin]

Also what is it with the tone of this post? Like you, me, we all know HK is going to die today, so what's up?

Also, you cannot tell me that if HK goes over and flips wolf tomorrow isn't just going to be Turbo Ender anyway.

I can barely post my way out of the POE anyway without Vulgard hero-shooting a wolf. I have no confidence in my ability to do so when I've probably spent a few day phases defending 'em.

[EnderWiggin]

(Me being constantly sussed early no matter my alignment is disheartening in itself but that's a "me" problem and something I have to work out with "why is my posting always wolfy recently.")

[YOLOSWAG]

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?


Oh thanks Dya for quoting back this post! That's what I meant earlier today when I said to Syn I was waiting for swag's followups (which nick do u prefer btw? swag or yolo? I'd say swag is more swag)

[QUOTE=YOLOSWAG;2053840707]

I really want to hear your thoughts about the bold thing YOLOSWAGMade me think Syn was unaligned with him at first glance

[EnderWiggin]

Yolo vs Org quoting system, the true battle for the ages.

[YOLOSWAG]

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?


In champs my biggest issue was being right and then letting others sway me into letting my reads go.

In the recent Anon game I wagoned all the wolves D1 but let people sway me off them.

I'm not saying I'm always right. Absolutely not. But I'm sick of feeling "what if"s about sticking to my guns when I have a good read or feeling.

And the fact that it was me/HK in the POE when I had that made me feel very much like a "me against the world" situation.

The fact that the likely clear-status of the main core of people I suspected to be corrupt and the growing chance I was just wrong (or right depending on how you look at it.) on HK? Makes me feel pretty shit.

Part of me figures that if I just vanity and go down today it'll mean I'm no longer in this mess and you guys still have enough steam + POE to resolve the game.

Honestly sounds kinda selfish when I lay it out like that rip.I feel that

So what were your early wolf reads here, just HK and Syn?

[Raskolnikov]

Also, you cannot tell me that if HK goes over and flips wolf tomorrow isn't just going to be Turbo Ender anyway.

I can barely post my way out of the POE anyway without Vulgard hero-shooting a wolf. I have no confidence in my ability to do so when I've probably spent a few day phases defending 'em.

If HK is a wolf, I am snap voting Swag tmr and dipping till end game (that is if Visor doesn't MD you red in the first place :curtain:)

[Ephemeral]

Also, you cannot tell me that if HK goes over and flips wolf tomorrow isn't just going to be Turbo Ender anyway.

I can barely post my way out of the POE anyway without Vulgard hero-shooting a wolf. I have no confidence in my ability to do so when I've probably spent a few day phases defending 'em.

i mean if you're a villager you could just get peeked if hk flips wolf no?:book2:

[EnderWiggin]

I feel that

So what were your early wolf reads here, just HK and Syn?

Syn wasn't even an early wolfread. That came... D2 I think? Maaaaaybe late D1.

HK was my first and then I played with Visor/Ladd before tossing my Ladd wolfread out. Then I got pulled into Pzelda and the rest is history.

[EnderWiggin]

i mean if you're a villager you could just get peeked if hk flips wolf no?:book2:

I'm curious what you mean.

Unless JOAT has saved doc to keep our MD alive then peeking is a lil hard.

Unless you mean the block.

... You know JOAT has to have doc or block left. You're kinda right.

[YOLOSWAG]

If HK is a wolf, I am snap voting Swag tmr and dipping till end game (that is if Visor doesn't MD you red in the first place :curtain:)I’m gonna need you to find me bub

[YOLOSWAG]

Vote: hollowkatt

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: HK

I am apparently still swayable.

[EnderWiggin]

It's now nearly 2am so sleep + work is a thing that still needs to happen.

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: hollowkatt

swag


I’m gonna need you to find me bub

I don't think it actually matters rn. but OK I guess. I was kinda joking anyway: if HK flips red, I will definatly keep reading everyone in good faith AND thinking at alternatives. (assuming no peeks)

if HK flips green, I will prolly trash all my reads and start over (lol HK and me in that case)

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: HK

I am apparently still swayable.

Wait is this the MAJ!
Sunbae nebjiamn

[Raskolnikov]

I actually think Ender just did MAJ HK (Visor's vote on Enderkatt shouldn't count if I understand things right). Lettuce find out

[Raskolnikov]

I wanted Visor to have the time :bow:

[YOLOSWAG]

Lmao

[Ephemeral]

they didn't give nl the time:shame:

[Raskolnikov]

Ender: HK is sus. pzelda's wagon is a wolf counter
also Ender: HK is town, never ever touch him.
also Ender: Maj HK :D

[dyachei]

Ender: HK is sus. pzelda's wagon is a wolf counter
also Ender: HK is town, never ever touch him.
also Ender: Maj HK :D

i dont think it's maj

[dyachei]

VOTE TALLY

EnderWiggin 4 Syn dyachei Visor baudib
hollowkatt 3 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin



MAJ is in effect and is 6
EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/8/23


I think this was the latest vote count?

[Ephemeral]

I think this was the latest vote count?

didn't nl move onto hk tho

that'd put him at 6 if the "enderkatt" vote didn't count which I'd assume it didn't?

[Raskolnikov]

I think this was the latest vote count?

yeap. Since the, Visor, swag and Ender voted HK. None of Ephe, Ladd, me moved iirc. Asking for a friend but

[dyachei]

yeap. Since the, Visor, swag and Ender voted HK. None of Ephe, Ladd, me moved iirc. Asking for a friend but

ok I guess that's a thing then

[Raskolnikov]

ngl a maj works better with my irl timing. I won't have to be unpleasant and play fm in my inlaw faces who are literally camping at my house (the downside of having kids I guess). no pls flip red. glglgl

[Raskolnikov]

*now

[dyachei]

ngl a maj works better with my irl timing. I won't have to be unpleasant and play fm in my inlaw faces who are literally camping at my house (the downside of having kids I guess). no pls flip red. glglgl

same. supposed to have dinner with the in laws right before EOD tonight

[nebjiamn]

I believe we have majority. My understanding is visor's vote for 'enderkatt' is not legal and thus the previous vote for hollowkatt stands.

Please stand by and no more posting ITT

VOTE TALLY


hollowkatt 6 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd yoloswag EnderWiggin Visor
EnderWiggin 3 Syn dyachei baudib
baudib1 1 hollowkatt

[nebjiamn]

hollowkatt has been chopped! They were Vanilla Town!


It is night!

Please send night actions to Sunbae and nebjiamn by 6PM EST on 2/9/2023
Night will end at 7PM EST on 2/9/2023

[Sunbae]

Raskolnikov has died! They were Vanilla Town!


IT IS STILL NIGHT

[Sunbae]

Alive (8):

1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Ladd
6. Syn
7. Visor
8. Yoloswag


Dead (7):
Pzelda (Scum Firefighter, d1 chop)
Wisdom (Vanilla Town, n1 death)
Logic (Vanilla Town, d2 poison)
Silverkeith (Vanilla Town, d2 chop)
noraplus (Vanilla Town, n2 death)
HollowKatt (Vanilla Town, d3 chop)
Raskolnikov (Vanilla Town, n3 death)


Majority is in effect. With 8 players alive, Maj is 5. If Maj is reached, please stop posting and let me and benneh know.


The day is scheduled to end 48 hours from now (7pm eastern on 2/11/23)




Day 4 has begun. Have fun!

[baudib1]

wow where to begin

an embarrassment to be associated with this game or the village.

Baudib1, quite possibly the worst werewolf player of all time. never has one man posted that many words in a game and been so wrong, so often. painful to even skim your posts. we always hear about these old school players being good back in the day, but they are all just pretty much terrible thinkers and have no clue what is going on most of the time. you don't even get credit for re-reads cause you did 0 critical thinking, just pure aids busy work.

[Syn]

I hate all of you.

[Syn]

vote: EnderWiggin

thanks bye

[baudib1]

Team Just Lunch the Wolfy Players took one on the chin so?.

I?m not really sure Ender is a wolf and if he is I?m not sure who his partner is. Is it Syn? Lmao

I do think we?re at a point where we have to consider that ladd is within both ranges but thinking about who his most logical partner is, is so mind bending to me.

ladd/dyachei makes sense, would explain why neither one of them is getting pinged by the other. But like this is so implausible to me. in the context of their wolf game and expectations for engagement/activity, Dya might be the most removed from wolfrange of anyone in the game.

Ladd/Ender is like, pretty weird. I do think ladd questioning him about his hollowkatt read seemed villagery.


The wolfiest thing ladd has done is probably his analysis of this as HK is a wolf who knows Visor is a wolf here. On one level it seems like a pretty in-depth organic thought that doesnt ever come from a wolf but this is ladd we are talking about.


ur moneys no good here and you've been riding my jock for two days now. find a new pony or you know do something about it. Like for as vociferous as you've been about HK is a wolf you strangely keep winding up on someone elses wagon at the end of the day, and you don't actually do much to stump for my chop, you're just loudly annoying about it to start a game day and then kinda poofs out.

are you stringing me along and poisoning the well or are you actually trying to solve?
next question: do you have me paired with Ender or do you think I have him fooled?


here is a fun read - when i as catching up and i read this post it almost read like a post made by a wolf who KNOWS visor is a wolf too and is doing some distancing lol

With HK flipping V this kinda haunts me.

Ladd - I would like to hear more on you saying Syn is a villager because of the Wisdom flip. seems pretty thin but honestly I just want to hear more from you in your thoughts on Syn just to formulate my own read on him.

[baudib1]

vote: EnderWiggin

thanks bye

If it is not Ender who do you think the team is?

[Syn]

I'm not answering your "let's railroad Syn now" posts, sorry. Do what you like. I won't help you do it.

[baudib1]

I'm not answering your "let's railroad Syn now" posts, sorry. Do what you like. I won't help you do it.

Okie doke

[YOLOSWAG]

https://i.ibb.co/rZQfDcN/F8-D88-FDC-FD63-4-E10-8816-BFF8-BD35-E0-DF.jpg

[dyachei]

so we had a claimed pr. I guess they were worried about a doc?

[baudib1]

so we had a claimed pr. I guess they were worried about a doc?

watcha think about ladd?

Still think it is Ender?

[dyachei]

watcha think about ladd?

Still think it is Ender?

still dont like ender but I'm not sure because I dont have the best track record reading him

need to reread ladd but probably wont do that tonight

[ladd]

Just gonna hardclaim joat to make game easier for everyone and prob no shot they have 2 charges left? If they have 2 shots left sorry lol

N2 heal rask
N3 rb yolo


If md claims who they MDed n3 we can exclude a team i hope

Bbl

[Ephemeral]

now THIS is interesting

[Ephemeral]

i'm the md

n2 ender - positive

n3 baudib - negative

[ladd]

i'm the md

n2 ender - positive

n3 baudib - negative

Lmao thats funny so ender is outed no?

[Ephemeral]

Lmao thats funny so ender is outed no?

yep

[ladd]

Alrighty nice

Well i thought team wqs yolo/ender oveenight but i am open to other options (not sure which ones tho?)

[ladd]

Its not me/eph. Not syn. Not visor

Think all of these we can safely say

If my memory serves me right its not dya.

I guess i could re read baudib to make sure its not him?

[ladd]

But before thay i am gonna go back to sleep

[Ephemeral]

def possible yeah, yolo made some p odd posts

but it's almost 6 am so not really in the headspace to think about it too much rn lol

[Ephemeral]

Its not me/eph. Not syn. Not visor

Think all of these we can safely say

If my memory serves me right its not dya.

I guess i could re read baudib to make sure its not him?

atm i agree it's not nl or dya, very unlikely i change my mind even after going thru stuff again tomorrow

syn I admittedly didn't pay too much attention to in the grand scheme of things so we'll see where that goes

baudib is gonna be a fun one to unpack

[ladd]

atm i agree it's not nl or dya, very unlikely i change my mind even after going thru stuff again tomorrow

syn I admittedly didn't pay too much attention to in the grand scheme of things so we'll see where that goes

baudib is gonna be a fun one to unpack

Syn/ender would be a very looooong buss. I dunno i guess we can consider it but idr see it

[YOLOSWAG]

Oh the Ephemeral pr read was legit

swag

[YOLOSWAG]

1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
6. Syn
7. Visor

VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 6 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd yoloswag EnderWiggin Visor
EnderWiggin 3 Syn dyachei baudib
baudib1 1 hollowkatt


Considering Visor?s POE?ing of ender, that means I?m reading for a bus. Fun

[Visor]

gotta say i didn't expect a maj

but not gonna complain, wouldve kept my vote there anyway most like

ender being a wolf is a sigh of relief tbh, i'll take 2/3 from hk/pzelda/ender

who was your n1 eph?

[Visor]

i am pretty sure ladd is a villager for a specific reason i will reveal later if it ever matters

the reason is btw i PR read him lol

just had a weird tone to him that wasn't like wolfy ladd tone but not regular free flowing ladd either

nice to see i was right i guess lol

[Ephemeral]

gotta say i didn't expect a maj

but not gonna complain, wouldve kept my vote there anyway most like

ender being a wolf is a sigh of relief tbh, i'll take 2/3 from hk/pzelda/ender

who was your n1 eph?

hk lol

[Visor]

hk lol

lmao

rip

[Visor]

Alive (8/15):
1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Ladd
6. Syn
7. Visor
8. Yoloswag

we kill ender

6:1 in the night

if wolves have 2 shots remaining:

one of ladd/eph dies, i probably die

goes to 4:1, if we miskill its 3:1 and two kills means game over, so if wolves have 2 shots this is must lynch basically

if wolves have 1 shot

6:1, sod4:1, sod2:1 we get one extra lynch
or
6:1, sod5:1, 3:1 must lynch with one pr alive potentially?

if wolves have 0 shots remaining

6:1, sod5:1, 3:1

so worst case, its mustlynch best case (either 1 or 0 shots left) we have one miskill available

i think? if i did the maths right

[YOLOSWAG]

6 v 2

Ender D4, ladd, ephem N4

4 v 1

YOLO/Syn/dya/baudi/Visor

Hm so we get another mislunch if wolves don?t have 2x. If they have both that?s rough, possibly gg

[Visor]

in the worst case world:

tomorrow will v likely be

baudib
dya
eph/ladd
syn
yolo

gun to head i think id go yolo but in that world id be dead so not my problem lol

[Visor]

6 v 2

Ender D4, ladd, ephem N4

4 v 1

YOLO/Syn/dya/baudi/Visor

Hm so we get another mislunch if wolves don?t have 2x. If they have both that?s rough, possibly gg

ya p much

[Visor]

while i do think we should maj today, please do it when im around this time lol

ill be back later tonight

[Syn]

does this mean we can finally kill ender

[Syn]

also I was going to say that baudib is either wolf or actually PR

I can now settle on wolf

I've got tomorrow's hyper tunnel lined up folks vroom vroom

[baudib1]

Lol

Ephemeral why would you check me?

Oh well

[Syn]

Syn/ender would be a very looooong buss. I dunno i guess we can consider it but idr see it

this is within my wolf range and is how I won borderlands mafia on MU (hosted by Logic)

[baudib1]

And why would you not vote for Ender on D3?

[baudib1]

If Yolo is PR shot and got RB does he retain shot?

If not it should be locked.

[baudib1]

Anyway this makes sense. I didn’t think ladd would miss 4+ tries to hit a PR.

[baudib1]

Alive (8/15):
1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Ladd
6. Syn
7. Visor
8. Yoloswag

we kill ender

6:1 in the night

if wolves have 2 shots remaining:

one of ladd/eph dies, i probably die

goes to 4:1, if we miskill its 3:1 and two kills means game over, so if wolves have 2 shots this is must lynch basically

if wolves have 1 shot

6:1, sod4:1, sod2:1 we get one extra lynch
or
6:1, sod5:1, 3:1 must lynch with one pr alive potentially?

if wolves have 0 shots remaining

6:1, sod5:1, 3:1

so worst case, its mustlynch best case (either 1 or 0 shots left) we have one miskill available

i think? if i did the maths right

Seems super unlikely they have 2 shots.

[ladd]

I re read a bit. Imo:

Visor is never a wolf ldo

Syn is never a wolf. Ender was genuinely frustrated with syn's push on him iyam+syn reasons for pushing ender and wholr push seems villagery

Yolo fits like a glove. Their interaction make sense as w/w, SoD3 while everyone was grilling ender yolo was asking ender layup questions. I dont really buy yolo was so confident sk was a wolf d2 that he didnt check in and you are free to not believe me but yolo's post to dya askjng why they have eph twice on the list was 1 of the wolfiest post of the game tonally. From ender side, all mentions of yolo are light villareads, never any intention to push him nor really do ~anything with him

I am inclined to think baudib is not a wolf, think he looks mildly good from spew but nothing clearing. His posting tho is reallyyy villagery and i think he has shown me enough times he has not tmi that i am cool with him bring just a villager

I havent re read dya yet, will do it later. I think they look okay from ender side

[baudib1]

I re read a bit. Imo:

Visor is never a wolf ldo

Syn is never a wolf. Ender was genuinely frustrated with syn's push on him iyam+syn reasons for pushing ender and wholr push seems villagery

Yolo fits like a glove. Their interaction make sense as w/w, SoD3 while everyone was grilling ender yolo was asking ender layup questions. I dont really buy yolo was so confident sk was a wolf d2 that he didnt check in and you are free to not believe me but yolo's post to dya askjng why they have eph twice on the list was 1 of the wolfiest post of the game tonally. From ender side, all mentions of yolo are light villareads, never any intention to push him nor really do ~anything with him

I am inclined to think baudib is not a wolf, think he looks mildly good from spew but nothing clearing. His posting tho is reallyyy villagery and i think he has shown me enough times he has not tmi that i am cool with him bring just a villager

I havent re read dya yet, will do it later. I think they look okay from ender side

Not sure how familiar you are with my meta but I am one of the most anti-bussing people in the history of this game. Not CDL-level anti-bussing, very much on the all-in on powerwolfing.
Read my interactions with Ender on D2. Also I would 100% leverage the ladd V-read on Ender into pushing Ephe/Yolo/whoever.
I also think the me-Zelda interactions and me telling people to go back to Zelda wagon at EOD1 is a decent look.

[Syn]

I re read a bit. Imo:

Visor is never a wolf ldo

Syn is never a wolf. Ender was genuinely frustrated with syn's push on him iyam+syn reasons for pushing ender and wholr push seems villagery

Yolo fits like a glove. Their interaction make sense as w/w, SoD3 while everyone was grilling ender yolo was asking ender layup questions. I dont really buy yolo was so confident sk was a wolf d2 that he didnt check in and you are free to not believe me but yolo's post to dya askjng why they have eph twice on the list was 1 of the wolfiest post of the game tonally. From ender side, all mentions of yolo are light villareads, never any intention to push him nor really do ~anything with him

I am inclined to think baudib is not a wolf, think he looks mildly good from spew but nothing clearing. His posting tho is reallyyy villagery and i think he has shown me enough times he has not tmi that i am cool with him bring just a villager

I havent re read dya yet, will do it later. I think they look okay from ender side

I can live with this I guess

[ladd]

Dya prob villa too

Its just yolo/ender imo. First time all game that the team fits perfectly iyam


And with this i bid adieu, unless i see something to change my mind or yolo convinces me someone else is the wolf ill just go semi afk and vote ender-->yolo

[ladd]

I think looking back i should have rbed ender but i wanted to try to rb the nk and figured the deeper wolf would carry it but eh guess ender is the PR shooter so he has been carrying them?

If i rb ender we get a clear today too (or no nk)

Oh well

[baudib1]

someone talk to me lol

I thought my claim would come across as so detailed and convoluted and derptastic it has to be real lmao. I realized I derped too hard on it I might have given it away but this team seemed to be bad at finding PRs. Oh well

[baudib1]

Dya was really early on pushing Ender and I should have stuck with that on D2 because SK really did post decently there.

[ladd]

someone talk to me lol

I thought my claim would come across as so detailed and convoluted and derptastic it has to be real lmao. I realized I derped too hard on it I might have given it away but this team seemed to be bad at finding PRs. Oh well

I though visor was real and you were just giving him cover lol

You were trying too hard to look real imo

Just my 2cents

[baudib1]

I though visor was real and you were just giving him cover lol

You were trying too hard to look real imo

Just my 2cents

I also thought Visor was real or if it wasn't it looked too lame to draw a shot.

[baudib1]

The levels were funny, I thought Rask was trying to give me cover by pretending he thought Visor's claim was real.

[ladd]

The levels were funny, I thought Rask was trying to give me cover by pretending he thought Visor's claim was real.

who do you think is the wolf?

[baudib1]

who do you think is the wolf?

it's probably Yolo, I said that I felt him being cautious/standoffish around me was more likely W!Yolo being afraid of me catching him and V!Yolo being wary of me. I had that vibe on P1 also.

If not I think it's Syn who hasn't had many reads/thoughts other than Ender=W all game because I don't see how I would ever vote Dya/Visor this game.

[Visor]

fwiw i didn't expect to be CC'ed at all

there is a world where baudib either knew i was faking or suspected and used my fake claim as a way to use his own fake claim to be townread but thats like galaxy brain wolf moves lol

baudib is a good wolf but i don't think thats likely lol

had no idea what level rask was on with his reaction, whether he actually believed me and was trying to give cover or thought i done fucked up and was tongue lashing me

its possible wolves also believed i was real regardless and tried to pr kill me cause of my easy retraction

not sure it matters rn anyway

[ladd]

fwiw i didn't expect to be CC'ed at all

there is a world where baudib either knew i was faking or suspected and used my fake claim as a way to use his own fake claim to be townread but thats like galaxy brain wolf moves lol

baudib is a good wolf but i don't think thats likely lol

had no idea what level rask was on with his reaction, whether he actually believed me and was trying to give cover or thought i done fucked up and was tongue lashing me

its possible wolves also believed i was real regardless and tried to pr kill me cause of my easy retraction

not sure it matters rn anyway

yea and he snapped CCed

i dont really think baudib is ever a wolf between this and his play tbh

[Visor]

ive been debating about this for a while, but i figure given its d3 and possible one if not both pr shots have been used up and even if i do get pr shot we don't lose any lynches

im gonna hardclaim motion detector

i have no useful results (and don't see the point of telling yall what results i have anyway because no need to narrow the joat down for wolves)

but figure this might help a little, i dunno


Wtf thanks but you didn?t have to do that

CC
N1 SK no result
N2 Visor no result

9 minutes between the posts so pretty quick thinking

his previous post was a while earlier too

[Visor]

ive been debating about this for a while, but i figure given its d3 and possible one if not both pr shots have been used up and even if i do get pr shot we don't lose any lynches

im gonna hardclaim motion detector

i have no useful results (and don't see the point of telling yall what results i have anyway because no need to narrow the joat down for wolves)

but figure this might help a little, i dunno


it's probably Yolo, I said that I felt him being cautious/standoffish around me was more likely W!Yolo being afraid of me catching him and V!Yolo being wary of me. I had that vibe on P1 also.

If not I think it's Syn who hasn't had many reads/thoughts other than Ender=W all game because I don't see how I would ever vote Dya/Visor this game.

i think yolo has had a cautious energy all game really

[Visor]

ladd can you quote some of the ender/syn stuff you thought wasn't aligned

[ladd]

ladd can you quote some of the ender/syn stuff you thought wasn't aligned

I am from phone multitasking but ill try

I am gonna be a bit slow tho

[Visor]

no rush, do it later

lots of time left in the day

[baudib1]

fwiw i didn't expect to be CC'ed at all

there is a world where baudib either knew i was faking or suspected and used my fake claim as a way to use his own fake claim to be townread but thats like galaxy brain wolf moves lol

baudib is a good wolf but i don't think thats likely lol

had no idea what level rask was on with his reaction, whether he actually believed me and was trying to give cover or thought i done fucked up and was tongue lashing me

its possible wolves also believed i was real regardless and tried to pr kill me cause of my easy retraction

not sure it matters rn anyway

let's say I were to use this game to break my decade-long meta/theoretical beliefs and hard-push partner Ender, I really don't see how I would fake a claim there for extra town cred when I had pretty high standing in the thread already.

[ladd]

Amazing insight. You wanna quote all my posts and say that?


Hey Syn. You apparently "know me well". Wanna go find a single game as wolf where I bet on stupid wifom?

Keeping one highly townread member alive or angel dodging is 100% something I would do. But when you got a block of players pushing the wagons around who are very townread I'd take the chance of hitting the ONE save in the entire game instead of letting them run roughshod over my poor PZ/HK/Me team.

Also why I've been killing people like C4 who don't think I'm wolf and might protect me if people push me?


Actually.

Wait.

If I'm making these supposedly "Sus building" kills, why haven't I killed someone like Dya who will 100% push me every game because they always sus me?

(Dya can confirm we have constantly sussed each other through the games we've played in the past.)

Why would I kill C4 who actually townread me? And might agree to my "POE is fucked" read?

Think it was these posts mostly

I actually may be more confident on baudib villa than syn

But i think its just yolo anyway

[baudib1]

Yolo saying he thought Ephemeral was a PR and then Ephemeral not dying is a little interesting but I guess they believed me/Visor and burned a shot on me/Visor or they just didn't see a path to win with Ephemeral having a claim.

[ladd]

Yolo saying he thought Ephemeral was a PR and then Ephemeral not dying is a little interesting but I guess they believed me/Visor and burned a shot on me/Visor or they just didn't see a path to win with Ephemeral having a claim.

Thats wolfing 101

I do it half of my wolfgames lol

[baudib1]

Thats wolfing 101

I do it half of my wolfgames lol

But he would have had to believe my claim right?

Not sure how many people PR hunt as villagers but I do and I can see Yolo doing it. I did get the vibe that Syn was PR - there was a post where I said to them to turn the heat up because he was being a bit too chill.

[baudib1]

I’ll towncase myself cuz I’m bored just so y’all don’t have to go through my posts.

[baudib1]

FWIW I think these first two quotes look good for me, the "go Ender first so I don't have to read his posts" is definitely something I could see myself saying about a partner though lmao.


Ender?s whole game has been making bizarro spew reads and unhinged mets reads and super agenda-y NK reads.

Sorry dya/syn for getting cold feet on that one.


Ah, yes. The agenda of sussing the towncore. Instead of just, idk, killing the towncore in the night.

Go find a single wolf game where I have decided not to kill towncore and instead tried to sus them.

I dare you.


+ self-meta reads.

I don?t doubt that there could be a wolf in someone who was highly cleared btw.


gonna be honest I?d rather go Ender first so I don?t have to read his posts.

[baudib1]

more stuff from me on Ender


....

EnderWiggin
I have a problem with his game because it's basically all in on:
1. HK town, sheep me
2. mediocre to bizarre spew reads
3. some seemingly controversial meta reads
4. pretty damn wolfy analysis of NKs.

He;s still going to flip V often enough that it's annoying, and I have a particularly difficult time interacting with him.
60%



I guess my lukewarm take is that I will acknowledge that the NKs are off obvious paths but these were players who are pretty unyeetable as town.

And there?s a player at the bottom of my tiered list who is really into talking about the NKs and why they?re incriminating for towncore.

And that?s while acknowledging that I feel I could very well be wrong somewhere in my upper echelon.

For a slightly hotter take, the people pushing me are people who don?t know me and don?t know how unyeetable I am - I?m miskilled maybe 1 in 30 games. So if taking the hard to yeet players off the table is the wolf strategy it points to people who don?t know me.

[baudib1]

There's more of these but here's where I said I don't see a problem with Zelda/Ender being teammates at all.


that's fine. my bigger issue with ender is the preoccupation of being tied to pzelda


Yeah I see what you?re saying. I didn?t really understand the clearance of Ender. I?ll trust your view of interactions over anyone?s.

[baudib1]

Me to Yolo, who was telling me that Ender has some fire reads as a villager.


Fair enough bub, I?m not trying to stifle your V!game but it feels like Baud-Ender is an inevitable tdome if I?m being honest.

Me to Ender, trying to pin down exactly what he thinks the NKs point to.


It?s clear to me that we have difficulty communicating and it?s probably 90%+ my fault.

What I want to know from you is this:
1. If the wolves want to make us feel a certain way or protect a particular player, then I kinda want details on that and not what you?re doing, which is just trying to stir up paranoia among people who currently feel comfortable working with each other.

I?ll offer you this, and maybe it will help you improve your view of the game:
The most obvious and specific thing that the NKs do are kinda point to ladd (Wisdom sus) and Nora dying over him. So maybe you should recalibrate your V read on Ladd.

And sure there?s confbias in what I?m going to say next - it feels to me like you want to generically talk about ?towncore? to specifically make people sus ladd without you having to do the dirty work to actually make a case on it. Which is like - pretty elite wolfing if you can get away with it, but we?re not noobs here and have all seen this stuff before.

Ender saying that he thinks ladd is a villager, also worth noting that I've asked Yolo to talk about my wolf game and he declined.


Right. So this is where I will need you to detail who you think the weird Nks point to that aren?t ladd. I am fully capable of making weird kills for specific reasons but not these (Yolo might weigh in here).


For the love of Allah I will recognize you as a NKA savant if you tell me what you they mean, who they point to and why.

[baudib1]

Bolded stuff and me going back and hammering at him to give details are out of my wolfrange, I'm not SPF.

[Visor]

gonna be real and say i never read peoples self towncases

more interested in your reads on other people

that said i'm more interested in dya and yolos takes specifically rn

[baudib1]

gonna be real and say i never read peoples self towncases

more interested in your reads on other people

that said i'm more interested in dya and yolos takes specifically rn

I strongly preferred Ender over HK yesterday and if there was more time I would have stressed that even though HK peaced out.

That said I was fully in on them being w/w and Ender’s posts at EOD sorta gave me doubt. So I thought there was a chance this game was going to be really difficult. Looking at Ladd was just due diligence. I was also going to say that I could see it being Sun/Eph.

If we take out your fake claim, which locked you in from like 97% villager to 100% imo, I’d say Dya is the most likely villager in the game.

Syn obviously looks good off the Ender tunnel but them saying it’s something they’ve done as a wolf makes me consider it even more.

[YOLOSWAG]

I’m going to reread interactions after work

@ village I’m gonna need y’all to put srs thought into which of the other players bussed. If we have two mislunches this game’s likely going to f3 if I go over tomorrow and am not sure I can confidently find the last wolf because they just played an aggressive bussing game

Til later

[YOLOSWAG]

ladd

Pull your head out of the ?it?s always yolo? world for a sec

Gth who?s next likeliest bro?

[YOLOSWAG]

also I was going to say that baudib is either wolf or actually PR

I can now settle on wolf

I've got tomorrow's hyper tunnel lined up folks vroom vroomHow come?

[YOLOSWAG]

it's probably Yolo, I said that I felt him being cautious/standoffish around me was more likely W!Yolo being afraid of me catching him and V!Yolo being wary of me. I had that vibe on P1 also.

If not I think it's Syn who hasn't had many reads/thoughts other than Ender=W all game because I don't see how I would ever vote Dya/Visor this game.Please talk me thru this ?YOLO would fear me as a wolf? angle because it makes no sense

[YOLOSWAG]

Also @ ladd

Why?s NL never wolf?

[YOLOSWAG]

good lord do I regret joining this game

[ladd]

ladd

Pull your head out of the ?it?s always yolo? world for a sec

Gth who?s next likeliest bro?

idk honestly. i wanna say syn but uh it doesnt really fit

[ladd]

Also @ ladd

Why?s NL never wolf?

d1 interactions with ender when ender said everyone voting zelda was suspicious. they really don't look w/w imo

(and also partially the fakeclaim yday tho thats probably something thats still in wolf range)

[ladd]

but regardless fypov feel free to ignore me saing "x is never a wolf" cause if you are a villager one of those guis is prob a wolf

just gotta explain why/figure out who

if we maj early next day phase is in the weekend where if i am alive ill have a lot more time so i will do my due diligence. right now you/ender fits by far the best to me

[YOLOSWAG]

but regardless fypov feel free to ignore me saing "x is never a wolf" cause if you are a villager one of those guis is prob a wolf

just gotta explain why/figure out who

if we maj early next day phase is in the weekend where if i am alive ill have a lot more time so i will do my due diligence. right now you/ender fits by far the best to meYeah no

Anyone could be a wolf is my point ? it?s a bussing game and distinguishing a busser versus a villager is largely a crapshoot + we likely only have 1 shot to get it correct

I?m asking you to do due diligence instead of this ?YOLO solve it for me? approach. I?m going to try but the village wincon isn?t solely on me bub

Not sure why you would postulate being alive when you are the literal clear

[baudib1]

Please talk me thru this ?YOLO would fear me as a wolf? angle because it makes no sense

It’s been in my head since the start of the game. Maybe fear isn’t the right word but I would just expect villager you to engage with me more. I find it hard to believe you don’t think I buried Ender in our interactions about him talking about the NKs and then you took a similar line in talking about the NKs.

[ladd]

Yeah no

Anyone could be a wolf is my point ? it?s a bussing game and distinguishing a busser versus a villager is largely a crapshoot + we likely only have 1 shot to get it correct

I?m asking you to do due diligence instead of this ?YOLO solve it for me? approach. I?m going to try but the village wincon isn?t solely on me bub

Not sure why you would postulate being alive when you are the literal clear

1) there is 2 clears

2) i don't think it's solely on you. i have done my due diligence with the time i have and concluded you are the most likely option. if i am alive tomorrow i'll have time to do mroe due diligence and I will see if my conclusion changes

[Ephemeral]

Baudib is definitely not saving me. He's waiting to bus at the last second.

lol

[Ephemeral]

1) there is 2 clears

2) i don't think it's solely on you. i have done my due diligence with the time i have and concluded you are the most likely option. if i am alive tomorrow i'll have time to do mroe due diligence and I will see if my conclusion changes

think it's p fair to assume between the two of us you always die first tho

[YOLOSWAG]

It?s been in my head since the start of the game. Maybe fear isn?t the right word but I would just expect villager you to engage with me more. I find it hard to believe you don?t think I buried Ender in our interactions about him talking about the NKs and then you took a similar line in talking about the NKs.Engage with what?

This game has largely just been a cap/HK/SK/ender POE since D1 while any other susses have largely gained no traction or proved to be of consequence

Like what is there to engage I don?t get it

[Ephemeral]

If Yolo is PR shot and got RB does he retain shot?

If not it should be locked.

i'm assuming since the shot technically doesn't go through the charge isn't consumed

[YOLOSWAG]

Wrt ender:

dya has buried ender

Visor has buried ender

Syn has buried ender

You have buried ender

I do not follow how anyone could read this game and not think, ‘last wolf just hard pushed ender, the universal poe since D1’ and you have to grasp from my point of view that pushing him in itself isn’t lock clearing

I gotta go thru later and try to find subtlety and nuance to how people approached him but it’s probably going to be akin to reading tea leaves

[Ephemeral]

And why would you not vote for Ender on D3?

I did

and i knew he wasn't the joat p early on too

but there were still several(albeit very unlikely) scenarios where it didn't mean anything for his alignment

as for why i checked you, i figured yolo was a v likely target for the joat if they had an rb left so i went with who I thought was most likely the wolf if not yolo

[Ephemeral]

not several just one but w.e

[EnderWiggin]

https://media.tenor.com/nCQUWimelJUAAAAC/the-fate-of-the-furious-the-fate-of-the-furious-gi-fs.gif

[dyachei]

visor get with the program. I've spent several days saying ender is a wolf with reasoning why. I didn't have the mech info, but I said it multiple times and kept adding to the read as I kept looking at it

[dyachei]

i think it's pretty unlikely to be syn unless he decided to bus early and hell bus

[dyachei]

Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.

Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.

think this is a good look for ladd/visor (even though ladd doesnt need it at all). But not really a good look for yolo


I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.

Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.

good look for syn i think


Sideways susses PZelda for a fake read.



Rask calls them out for voting Dya after that for no discernable reason.



Start of sus on me



When asked who the wolves are. (No Pzelda)



Changes vote to me when winds turn against me hard.



To Raskol pointing at HK/Logic/Pzelda as a trio.



Implies only HK should be removed.



More of above



Wagon on Pzelda solidifies. This is their response.



Joins Logic wagon when it spawns in.

---

And that's about all the relevant posts.

I do find their position around PZ weird, but I admit I did have the impression they tied me to PZ more which...

Actually doesn't exist in their ISO.

this also. like ender full on wolf cases syn


Kinda want to vote Syn more because it feels like Syn is using being hyper tunnelled on me as an excuse not to have to show content/thought/progression in thread.

If wolf he literally picked up I was defending his partner then hard-pushed me without ever supporting the PZ wagon.

(Also Logic disappearing while poisoned might be wolfy so the HK vote just reinforces my belief HK is town.)

more of the same


Hey Syn. You apparently "know me well". Wanna go find a single game as wolf where I bet on stupid wifom?

Keeping one highly townread member alive or angel dodging is 100% something I would do. But when you got a block of players pushing the wagons around who are very townread I'd take the chance of hitting the ONE save in the entire game instead of letting them run roughshod over my poor PZ/HK/Me team.

Also why I've been killing people like C4 who don't think I'm wolf and might protect me if people push me?

[dyachei]

I was playing with the idea that this:

might be towny. I think Ender stretched at times but I'm not sure it's a wolf versus a villager who's experiencing paranoia/skepticism of wagon formations and trying to find non-consensus wolves off it

Basically I'm asking myself why Ender does this as a wolf unless it's specifically to deflect from a partner (I am not sure how Ender tends to treat his bros as a wolf, would appreciate any meta on this)

kind of an interesting post. Light defense of ender

im not quoting it but d2 isnt good, either.

vote ender d3 but unvotes pretty quickly

I tried to focus on looking at interactions about or with ender and they arent great.

[dyachei]

guess I'll just keep talking to myself

[Syn]

guess I'll just keep talking to myself

hi dya i love u

[Syn]

https://media.tenor.com/nCQUWimelJUAAAAC/the-fate-of-the-furious-the-fate-of-the-furious-gi-fs.gif

hi ender i hate u

[dyachei]

hi dya i love u

who do you think ender's partner is?

[Ephemeral]

how do you feel about baudib now dya?

[dyachei]

how do you feel about baudib now dya?

need to reread him still but kind of putting it off because I know his iso is gonna be long

[dyachei]

I guess I generally feel pretty decently about baudib before rereading though

[baudib1]

Engage with what?

This game has largely just been a cap/HK/SK/ender POE since D1 while any other susses have largely gained no traction or proved to be of consequence

Like what is there to engage I don?t get it

Engage with me since you’re the one who invited me to this game. I’m pretty sure you understand I’m lock-clear here based on meta alone.

Feel free to show whose interactions with Ender look like a bus.

On D2 I was taking a line of sheeping ladd until we miss. Ladd was still reading Ender V and lol if you don’t think I’m broadcasting LADD THINKS ENDER IS V as his partner.

[baudib1]

need to reread him still but kind of putting it off because I know his iso is gonna be long

I pulled some highlights of me Ender earlier. You might as well do Syn first because I’m never flipping wolf here.

[Ephemeral]

that's fair

imo between baudib/ender and yolo/ender gth I'd go with yolo/ender as the team

shoe fits and all

the only concern I have is just how easily they fit from their interactions, like you'd think they'd at least try to look unaligned lol

I do recognize that sometimes it's just that simple ofc but it's something to think about potentially

I can see baudib grilling ender yesterday as distancing judging from the timing as well as the "tdome me" shenanigans that were going on for example

[Ephemeral]

realistically speaking i'm prolly just overthinking it

which i'm actually fine with because I've got plenty of reliable ppl to use as a sounding board here :curtain:

[YOLOSWAG]

Engage with me since you?re the one who invited me to this game. I?m pretty sure you understand I?m lock-clear here based on meta alone.

Feel free to show whose interactions with Ender look like a bus.

On D2 I was taking a line of sheeping ladd until we miss. Ladd was still reading Ender V and lol if you don?t think I?m broadcasting LADD THINKS ENDER IS V as his partner.Ya I?ma look after work

If you?re town we are prolly cooked 💀

[Syn]

who do you think ender's partner is?

baudib but I am fine with YOLO too

not you

not visor

[Syn]

Engage with me since you?re the one who invited me to this game. I?m pretty sure you understand I?m lock-clear here based on meta alone.

year of our lord 2023 and we're still doing "trust me, I would never do this as a wolf" reads

[baudib1]

year of our lord 2023 and we're still doing "trust me, I would never do this as a wolf" reads

Nah I’m not even bothering but Yolo knows this is true.

I’m pretty certain there aren’t any games where I’ve bussed a wolf wagon that went over when they weren’t outed. The closest thing would be this game in 2019 where I buried Abraxas after he claimed arsonist lmao. (Yolo was in that game)

[dyachei]

im reading baudibs ISO. I find it weird that he like...avoids voting the wolves a lot. I mostly think his posting is fine. But when looking at who to elim, he'll say wolf names but he doesn't keep a vote on them very often. See: his treatment of ender. he agreed with me about ender being preoccupied with being linked to zelda. But then finds a single post and says it's villagery and votes elsewhere.

I probably still vote yolo before baudib, but if game doesnt end with ender/yolo elims, then i think baudib is a decent candidate

[baudib1]

Although it?s true I have never really FPSed this way as a VT and have never fake CC as a villager, so lunch all liars etc. But if you think it makes sense for me to CC as a wolf there I don?t know what to tell you.

[baudib1]

Lord knows every time I think this game is gonna be easy we get Logic/HK flipping town and I tear my hair out. But I’m pretty confident Ender/Yolo just ends the game.

[dyachei]

does someone have a living player list handy?

[baudib1]

Baudib1
Dyachei
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
Ladd
Syn
Visor
Yoloswag

[dyachei]

Ladd
ephem
Visor
syn
baudib
yolo

in that order from v to w

[baudib1]

Ladd
ephem
Visor
syn
baudib
yolo

in that order from v to w

What’s your criteria for this? In what universe do I fake claim CC as a wolf under no pressure?

[dyachei]

What’s your criteria for this? In what universe do I fake claim CC as a wolf under no pressure?

ladd and ephem are lock clear

visor is never a wolf. I think wolf interactions make syn almost never a wolf.

you could have faked a claim as a wolf because it looks villagery but I still think you're more likely a villager. I do not like how you avoided voting wolves, though

yolo had some really bad moments with decent posting

[baudib1]

ladd and ephem are lock clear

visor is never a wolf. I think wolf interactions make syn almost never a wolf.

you could have faked a claim as a wolf because it looks villagery but I still think you're more likely a villager. I do not like how you avoided voting wolves, though

yolo had some really bad moments with decent posting

VAST TONAL GAP tho

If me you and Syn are in F3 you’re going to have to consider that I just had doubts, there’s ladd and Rask telling me they think Ender was a villager and it felt dangerous to let a good wolf like SK get away when he’s pushing me/Visor.

[dyachei]

VAST TONAL GAP tho

If me you and Syn are in F3 you’re going to have to consider that I just had doubts, there’s ladd and Rask telling me they think Ender was a villager and it felt dangerous to let a good wolf like SK get away when he’s pushing me/Visor.

i mean...i feel like you missed the part where I have said multiple times that I still think you're more likely to be a villager than not. so i'm already considering that.

you're getting awfully defensive here though

[baudib1]

i mean...i feel like you missed the part where I have said multiple times that I still think you're more likely to be a villager than not. so i'm already considering that.

you're getting awfully defensive here though

I haven’t missed that, that’s why I’m surprised you’d have me below Syn. I mean I’ve basically been on the same page with you and Sun on Ender since D2. You think my interactions with Ender can be W/W?

[dyachei]

I haven’t missed that, that’s why I’m surprised you’d have me below Syn. I mean I’ve basically been on the same page with you and Sun on Ender since D2. You think my interactions with Ender can be W/W?

yes. I do

but when i look at syn and ender, syn is spending a lot of time on trying to get people to vote ender. I also see a lot of time from ender spent trying to discredit syn and his cases and OMGUSing. THat looks less aligned to me than your interactions

[baudib1]

Ok. I don’t think Ender actually ever voted Syn.

I still think this isn’t going to matter, but I wan to go over this will you while you’re here.

[dyachei]

Ok. I don’t think Ender actually ever voted Syn.

I still think this isn’t going to matter, but I wan to go over this will you while you’re here.

ok but look at their interactions

[baudib1]

I think my call out on Ender for trying to stoke paranoia about the NKs implicating towncore without doing the work for casing anyone in the towncore was pretty good. Yolo has also been talking about the NKs a lot in odd ways.

[baudib1]

ok but look at their interactions

Well I think Ender’s case on Syn was fairly loltastic and I even hard-trolled him about it and didn’t even bother to take Syn seriously as a wolf candidate. I’m just kinda taken aback that anyone could see me partnered with Ender.

I think Syn and I were equally effective at burying Ender’s NK talk.

[baudib1]

I guess the oddest thing about Syn is them thinking HK was a villager when no one besides Ender had really thought that, if there was ever a real explanation of that I don?t remember it.

[baudib1]

This is Ender responding to me saying I have a problem with his game.


This is kinda reductive explanation of my play and ignores literally all the takes that I have that aren't "HK town" and spew reads.

Which is most of them. They also aren't meta reads. Or NK analysis. My townread on Ladd was kinda a meta read okay I'll give you that.

But my Syn wolf thoughts? None of the above.

My Raskol Townread? None of the above.

Legitimately tell me you haven't read half my posts without saying you haven't read half my posts.


This is me just not taking his complaints seriously. I just really couldn?t help but act snarky about it, like he made a case on Rask being a villager? No one besides Yolo actually responded to his case on Sun but he didn?t complain about it to anyone else.


Thanks for your insight on Rask it will definitely help me sort him.

The thing is no one else is running around talking about how weird the NKs are. So who?s the wolf who?s benefiting from them?

Feel free to elaborate on your wolf read of me too.


Ender, I am definitely down to work with my wolfbro Syn and the easily pocketed Dyachei to misyeet you, the most dangerous threat to the wolf team. After that I will use your case on Syn for the game-winning bus.

[baudib1]

I also just think Syn is an extremely likely villager and we win Ender > Yolo almost all the time.

[Syn]

I also just think Syn is an extremely likely villager and we win Ender > Yolo almost all the time.

you opened the day sussing ladd and me and very specifically not ender

[Syn]

I guess the oddest thing about Syn is them thinking HK was a villager when no one besides Ender had really thought that, if there was ever a real explanation of that I don?t remember it.

it was TMI

[Syn]

it was TMI

also, there's a difference between being wolfy and posting badly

HK was posting badly, but he wasn't wolfy

[baudib1]

you opened the day sussing ladd and me and very specifically not ender

Not really, just wanted to talk about it. There’s no world I vote either of you before Ender.

[baudib1]

Just stating the obvious mostly for my own reference,

Ender is obviously the PR shooter and performed the NK on Noraplus
Ender also performs the kill on Rask so it makes sense for Yolo to ask to be checked

I don’t see a world where Wnder holsters the PR shot 3 nights especially after a claim and CC, so at most there’s 1 shot. The part of my claim that I really derped is that if we lynch a wolf the MD is powerless.

But they know HK is town so pushing for Yolo to get checked makes sense, and buys him a day possibly.

[baudib1]

also, there's a difference between being wolfy and posting badly

HK was posting badly, but he wasn't wolfy

You were the only person who thought that though. The whole D3 convo was about how HK/Ender were basically in lockstep with their play.

[Syn]

You were the only person who thought that though. The whole D3 convo was about how HK/Ender were basically in lockstep with their play.

RIP to everyone else but I'm built different

[baudib1]

I?m going to reread interactions after work

@ village I?m gonna need y?all to put srs thought into which of the other players bussed. If we have two mislunches this game?s likely going to f3 if I go over tomorrow and am not sure I can confidently find the last wolf because they just played an aggressive bussing game

Til later

One issue is that Yolo knows my wolfing mentality better than anyone and he?s not going to say how much I hate bussing. The game Yolo and I were w/w, I had been calling BATMan my top villager all game and I outed myself to him when he wanted to start a Yolo wagon and I refused to consider him.

The other issue is if there was ever a wolf to bus, it was PZelda and I didn?t bother to pile on because I was looking for other wolves. Think everyone had the mindset of Logic is a wolf but let?s lunch Zelda first (think that was Rask who literally said that). I didn?t care about getting credit for Zelda or helping him go over, I just didn?t want to waste the day. I was just a villager chilling thinking we had likely W/W wagons, and clearly I wanted Zelda to go first but selfishly I wanted credit for burying Logic.

I also pretty clearly said I didn?t want to default lunch HK and never moved off Ender yesterday - I assumed he was the lunch. So Dya is saying I didn?t really vote for wolves and Yolo is implying that I bussed, and the truth is actually in the middle.

[baudib1]

Also @ ladd

Why?s NL never wolf?

So like the wolves did bus and Yolo has to take the ?everyone who voted a wolf is suspect? and trying to pull NL into the pool is wolfy. we?ve all said we?re not going to consider NL. Yolk?s just the wolf.

[baudib1]

ladd

This is where I’ll ask you to give the non-lazy case on me since you won’t be here tomorrow. I know you’re busy so sorry and all, just trying to cover all bases because it seems like I lose an F3.

[YOLOSWAG]

Iight I'm here for the evening

swag

[YOLOSWAG]

One issue is that Yolo knows my wolfing mentality better than anyone and he?s not going to say how much I hate bussing. The game Yolo and I were w/w, I had been calling BATMan my top villager all game and I outed myself to him when he wanted to start a Yolo wagon and I refused to consider him.

The other issue is if there was ever a wolf to bus, it was PZelda and I didn?t bother to pile on because I was looking for other wolves. Think everyone had the mindset of Logic is a wolf but let?s lunch Zelda first (think that was Rask who literally said that). I didn?t care about getting credit for Zelda or helping him go over, I just didn?t want to waste the day. I was just a villager chilling thinking we had likely W/W wagons, and clearly I wanted Zelda to go first but selfishly I wanted credit for burying Logic.

I also pretty clearly said I didn?t want to default lunch HK and never moved off Ender yesterday - I assumed he was the lunch. So Dya is saying I didn?t really vote for wolves and Yolo is implying that I bussed, and the truth is actually in the middle.I'm saying that whoever the last wolf is bussed

I'm not saying it's you specifically, I have to comb things over

The problem is that if you're a villager, then gamestate is very bad cuz last wolf is in nl/Syn/dya who have all been hard townread throughout the game and look good via spew per lvl 1 logic

So ya idk. I'ma read back over some things and try to get my bearings

[YOLOSWAG]

Off the top of my head the thing with baudi being a wolf is I'm not sure he goes so hard doing extra shit that he doesn't need to if he's wolfing

contrast this with other uncleared players who have been more "I'ma tunnel/push X for most of the phase," baudi has poked in a lot of places outside of the generally established POE in a way that has me considering a world where he's an open-minded villager and last wolf is the following:

If I rolled wolf in this game I would bus pzelda/ender and call it a day, so let's see if that's a possibility as I make my way thru again

[YOLOSWAG]

It means

V - HK
Null - everyone elselmfao

This game was good times D1

[baudib1]

Yolo now you're kinda being like Ender when he was talking about the NKs and the "towncore" being corrupt without saying who he thought it was. You're talking about this being a bussing game while lumping me in with the bussers when A. I don't bus and b. arguably I didn't bus.

like good luck on making a case on NL.

If Dya's a wolf I'll let them win tbh.

[baudib1]

Yolo if you're a villager, pretty clearly you have to solve between me and Syn.

If you're going to try to case NL I'll treat that as a lolcat.

[YOLOSWAG]

Yolo now you're kinda being like Ender when he was talking about the NKs and the "towncore" being corrupt without saying who he thought it was. You're talking about this being a bussing game while lumping me in with the bussers when A. I don't bus and b. arguably I didn't bus.

like good luck on making a case on NL.

If Dya's a wolf I'll let them win tbh.@ underlined

Yeah, I'm rereading now to try and iron out who that is

I get you are strong on dya/nl being town, let me see what I think after a reread, no harm in doing due diligence and I've already found a couple posts I think are good for Visor anyway

[Syn]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/etOX3h7ApZuDe7Fc5w/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47yayzuy1fbb2x0u02eof9dz5poyrtf9t1elcs3xe6&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Visor]

baudib and yolo, what did you think of pzeldas entrance in real time (as it happened back then)

im reading back through d1, and its only me and rask who have anything to say really on the entrance at the time it happened, and both of you are posting in a similar timeframe around those posts

[baudib1]

baudib and yolo, what did you think of pzeldas entrance in real time (as it happened back then)

im reading back through d1, and its only me and rask who have anything to say really on the entrance at the time it happened, and both of you are posting in a similar timeframe around those posts

I was still trying to process the microtells I had on Syn and then HK hard-declaring Syn as a villager and that he'd offer himself up for lynch if Syn ever flipped red. Then just like, Zelda's entrance was too weird for me to handle at the time.

[Visor]

yolo comes up with the pzelda was my secret wolfread after ladd votes him which is something lol

that ender 'suspiciously timed' read was brazen as fuck lol, i admire it, even if it was.... terrible lol

after the whole ender rigmarole, syn pops in to wolf read him a touch (of note that he does mention earlier that a pzelda read is fake, but then also calls raskols read on pzelda a soul read and calls it bad)

hard to parse where to sit with syn on that

[Visor]

idk on pzelda. Eph is kind of meh so far. yolo ok so far but hasnt done much. Ender im terrible at reading

this is prob the worst dya post d1? if only because it says nothing/no commitment to a read really

[dyachei]

this is prob the worst dya post d1? if only because it says nothing/no commitment to a read really

sure, it's probably my worst post all game. but like. I had the opportunity to bus pzelda there and didnt

[Visor]

I have dya as a reasonably high confidence TR and I don?t even need Ladd to help me get there.

Baudib1
Rask
Dyachei
Ladd
Wisdom
Visor
Nora
Ephemeral

YOLO
Syn
Logic
Silverkeith

Pzelda
Ender
Hollowkatt
did you even mention pzelda prior to this?

obv you wouldve prob watched the thread prior so having a read there or sponging ppl rasonable, this isn't like a gotcha or anything, just trying to figure out where you were at

good reads list anyway cuz u stole it lol

[baudib1]

here?s a fun sequence from early in the game, this is probably Yolo?s first serious post. Then Ender?s reaction, mine and Zelda?s.
I called out Yolo for this post not having a cromulent amount of swag. Zelda and Ender liked it for various reasons.


I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I?m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven?t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I?m not sneaking away to post at work lul


You're not allowed to steal my reads list.

That's illegal.


listen bae

I?m not saying I would kill you today or even tomorrow but this post is lacking in swag imo.

glgl


I like these reads and that they're not based on meta. There is some meta included, but it is site meta, if I understand it correctly. They're the first takes in this game I have some inclination to sheep and that makes me v lean Yolo.

Also, regarding my earlier clash with Rask, I reread it and on the second look he just looks like having fun and I v?s the one overreacting. I guess I will need to see more before making a proper take.

Town leans: HK, Yolo
Null: Everyone else

[Visor]

sure, it's probably my worst post all game. but like. I had the opportunity to bus pzelda there and didnt

i mean thats true, you had the opportunity to commit there and either you didn't and its villagery, or you didn't cause you didn't want wolf bros to get more heat

im just trying to figure out where everyone was at where the pzelda/ender stuff went down because that was the big paradigm shift of this game

[YOLOSWAG]

baudib and yolo, what did you think of pzeldas entrance in real time (as it happened back then)

im reading back through d1, and its only me and rask who have anything to say really on the entrance at the time it happened, and both of you are posting in a similar timeframe around those postsThe werewolf equivalent of an NPC scripting generic wolf posts lul

Hard to say anything beyond that, just felt...lifeless

[baudib1]

I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I’m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven’t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I’m not sneaking away to post at work lul


You're not allowed to steal my reads list.

That's illegal.


listen bae

I’m not saying I would kill you today or even tomorrow but this post is lacking in swag imo.

glgl


did you even mention pzelda prior to this?

obv you wouldve prob watched the thread prior so having a read there or sponging ppl rasonable, this isn't like a gotcha or anything, just trying to figure out where you were at

good reads list anyway cuz u stole it lol

I did not steal it. But I was influenced by what was going on of course. I wasn’t really sure how serious Rask was about yeeting Zelda, but I thought his posts were pretty weird and the people giving random TRs to Syn/HK was really bizarre. I was also into engaging with Wisdom atm.

[dyachei]

i mean thats true, you had the opportunity to commit there and either you didn't and its villagery, or you didn't cause you didn't want wolf bros to get more heat

im just trying to figure out where everyone was at where the pzelda/ender stuff went down because that was the big paradigm shift of this game

probably check my d2 onwards

I was trying to give ender a chance because I often find him wolfy. I shouldnt have but I course corrected d2

[YOLOSWAG]

I came into this reread expecting to wolfread Syn but a lot of his posts/takes seem reasonable in realtime

sigh

[baudib1]

Pretty funny that Ender says Yolo stole his reads list and Visor said I stole his lmao.

[Visor]

this is not as useful as id hoped itd be lol

[YOLOSWAG]

here?s a fun sequence from early in the game, this is probably Yolo?s first serious post. Then Ender?s reaction, mine and Zelda?s.
I called out Yolo for this post not having a cromulent amount of swag. Zelda and Ender liked it for various reasons.I don't follow the implication here

Those are buttering up a villager posts, this post too:


Rask, HK, Yolo for villas

Ladd, Keith, Logic for wolves

Wolves were more difficult to assemble. I don't think anyone in particular is extremely Wolfy, but some players look more stuff or struggle to interact imho.classic name all villagers for your reads wolf-post

[baudib1]

Yolo is never winning here, and I don't expect he'd give up but it's cool he's putting in some effort.

I'm concerned about F3e because it would surely be me/Syn/Dya.

Take a look at it from my POV, my +EV kills are Ephemeral over Ladd, although I guess that's pretty debatable, but surely Dya over Visor. You don't have to believe me but I would have definitely killed Dya n1, also.

[baudib1]

I don't follow the implication here

Those are buttering up a villager posts, this post too:

classic name all villagers for your reads wolf-post

Yolo, the point is that your post was stilted and felt forced. There was nothing to like about it.

[YOLOSWAG]

Yolo, the point is that your post was stilted and felt forced. There was nothing to like about it.nah

That post was a fine piece of art

In context it's one of the more complete "I'm laying out all my reads with justification" early posts in the game

[Syn]

I'm concerned about F3e because it would surely be me/Syn/Dya.

idk why you'd be concerned about this kind of F3

[dyachei]

idk why you'd be concerned about this kind of F3

because i think you're more v than he is

[Syn]

for now

[dyachei]

the more baudib gets concerned about that f3, the more i think he's ender's remaining partner

[Visor]

yolo where are you at rn on reads?

can you give an ordered reads list?

[dyachei]

yolo where are you at rn on reads?

can you give an ordered reads list?

do you have one?

[YOLOSWAG]

I'm starting to lose focus and might just finish this reread tomorrow, I'm halfway through the game and if I force myself to keep going I'm hitting the point where my eyes begin to glaze over, dumping these notes as is

baudib1

Really engaged throughout the whole game. There is a part early in the game where he votes HK, then comes back to the thread an hour later and votes Syn saying "changed my mind." This does not sound convincing in text but in context, felt like a villager who threw out a vote, thought more about how another player could be a wolf, then came back to vote the other player. Little beats like that ring more to me as a villager, it's the thoughtfulness behind the action and wanting to impact the gamestate with his follow-through


Vote for logic

Has a post asking pzelda to vote logic, idfk

Problem with baudi is that I feel he overextends on some of his susses/statements but I'm not sure if wolfy or just bored villa trying to make things happen, leaning v

ender

Came into the game voting HK and townreading me, baudib and Rask. I sometimes see wolves make these kinds of entrances on all villas. Posted this in response to Rask:


Who are the wolves pushing on pzelda to save HK?
What's your read on the former?

Visor I think, maybe considering a heel turn on my ladd read tbh, I wanted Yolo and you to be town and you probably both are which means maybe it started pure.

Although at most one of the above cause I doubt both wolves would jump onto the defense.


I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.

Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.IDK what this means but quoting for contemplations' sake later on anyway

Has a full on case here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053841164&viewfull=1#post2053841164

Ephemeral

Wolfy AF

Visor


Pzelda's wagon is suspiciously timed when HK was getting heat. I don't think the way the two interacted is w/w. Therefore Pzelda is town.

Am I misremembering or weren't you agreeing that HK's whole thing was sus? Why aren't you voting there?


suspiciously timed LOL

:really:
Thread: HK Does a weird thing
People: Start to vote HK
Me: Starts to push HK
Other people: "So about this pzelda chump."

HK pressure suddenly dips.

If I'm right about HK being wolf then straight up it's suspicious that the pzelda sus started where it did.
why can't we be villagers who think that pzelda is independently wolfy from hk

i don't care about interactions
Okay I have had two people tell me I'm off regarding the timing of the wagon. I'mma be back after I double-check this.
you're basically saying the fact there is a counter wagon to the wagon you like is wolfy lol
"Oh man, I caught a wolf."

"Why are people building another wagon???"
wat

this is ww bronana, people build multiple wagons

you're telling me you honestly think that a counter wagon to a wagon you like is wolfy?

you've been in hundreds of ww games, of which pretty much all have multiple wagons d1

man i don't know what to make of any of your posts on this page lol
i mean i don't even disagree with you that i think hk is wolfy

i just have thoughts on other slots too and hkatt has gotten plenty of attention this game already
Inclined to believe Visor's tone toward Ender here -- the conviction behind the push and the "bronana what are you doing" air to it feels real, also thinking Ender has a scrambling energy behind these posts that don't read partnered

This last post of "I don't even disagree with you that I think hk is wolfy" reads pure, can't put into words why but feels towny

Syn

A lot of their posts look good in context/real-time, he posted this after ender's wild 180 on capage:


chief wiggin kinda wolfy
yolo town

Had an early game sus of dyachei, notating this cuz he was the only one to do so


VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
EnderWiggin 2 Syn hollowkatt
Ladd 2 Wisdom pzelda
Logic 1 baudib1



Think this is correct.

EOD in approx 2 hours.

:00 good
:01 bad
chopping pzelda is so lameI don't know if he makes this post as a bro

Lots of Syn posts feel alright in realtime, dang. SOD2 opener:


nvm chopping pzelda is totally awesome

ok fine

vote: EnderWigginhm

dyachei

Had some reasonable posts D1, don't have much to say they're just fine


So i want to read pzelda spew and see what I can glean from it. Kind of think some of the interactions already talked about point to logic being v even though I still hate his read on me (because it's wolfy)

I don't think hk is excluded from being a wolfbro like ender seems to think. I have seen wolves come in and defend partners/give them weird v reads when they are getting dogpiled

[YOLOSWAG]

yolo where are you at rn on reads?

can you give an ordered reads list?I don't know

I've V read Syn/dya/baudi pretty comfortably throughout the game, I've had you as null but admit the spew looks favorable

I'm at the point of the game where more ender sus starts flying around including Syn's longform push on him, I'll have to see if that brings anything to mind tomorrow but ngl last wolf feels like a crapshoot atm

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

enderwiggin 1 Syn





MAJ is in effect and is 5
EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/11/23

[baudib1]

the more baudib gets concerned about that f3, the more i think he's ender's remaining partner

that's the only situation where we lose. All other universes are a win. So I want feedback from the living players now.

[baudib1]

Visor dyachei

talk to each other imo

[baudib1]

In the worlds where Yolo is a villager, wolves have 0 PR shots

Ender lunch
Ladd nk

5-1
Yolo (mis)lunch
Ephemeral nk

3-1 with Visor, Baud, Dya, Syn
sleep
Visor nk

2-1
Baud, Dya, Syn

In the worlds where Yolo is a villager, wolves have 1 PR shot

Ender lunch
Ladd nk
Ephemeral kill

4-1
Yolo (mis)lunch
Visor nk

2-1
Baud, Dya, Syn

[baudib1]

Yolo are there others cases where Zelda/Ender are buttering up a villager? Because I don't see any off a power skim.

[YOLOSWAG]

ender spent time trying to pocket HK, I don?t remember what he was doing towards whom outside of that

Beyond that, pzelda made like 10 posts and got bodied, he didn?t have a chance to really wolf beyond his entrance

ender came in with V reads of you, me and some other dude I?m forgetting ? he was V reading me before that post you pointed out

They just saw an expressive villager and did the ?force an early V read on a villager? thing

[baudib1]

Zelda doesn't seem to like anyone else's reads though.

[baudib1]

Well whoever the wolf is, good for you but it's like, I clearly outposted and outworked them the past few days.

If it's Yolo I called him out every day to do more and he tried to derail my push on Ender. Due diligence is fine and all but if you're a villager you don't seem to have much conviction on who you think the last wolf is, and ISOing Dya/Visor seems like busy work.

If it's Syn, I called him out for his first two posts and his game is generally been pretty coasty. You see a similar style in plenty of games where wolves hellbus a partner and then just live off that cred for days. And they're doing approximately nothing today.

I have pretty much laid out the case on myself and those will be the same arguments I make later in the game. No one seems to really have a reaction to my posts today, but I feel pretty confident that whoever the last villager(s) alive with me should be able to get there.

[ladd]

Just popping in to say ill be around and read what i can in 8ish hours

[Syn]

VOTE TALLY

enderwiggin 1 Syn





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i am thriving

[Syn]

If it's Syn, I called him out for his first two posts and his game is generally been pretty coasty. You see a similar style in plenty of games where wolves hellbus a partner and then just live off that cred for days. And they're doing approximately nothing today.

there's nothing for me to do

I don't care about any of these conversations

[Syn]

ngl it's kind of funny that ever since I said "this is in my wolf range" that it's become the primary case against me (re: hellbussing a partner all game and riding off that cred)

[Syn]

I'm not answering your "let's railroad Syn now" posts, sorry. Do what you like. I won't help you do it.

I should have listened to you, syn of the past

[Syn]

OH THAT REMINDS ME

[Syn]

it's only a tunnel until he flips red, then I'm a certified genius

genius, I tell you

[Syn]

besides patting myself on the back, the above is meant to indicate that I can't really have been "living off the cred" of a hellbus when for the majority of the game I was dismissed as a blind tunneller