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baudib1
02-05-2023, 11:15
I meant hot takes not "read my mind and put it into the thread".

Do you think you're being railroaded (pushed with an agenda to eliminate you by wolves) or is "the thread" collectively missing something that makes you townie?

This interaction between SK/HK sure is something

ladd
02-05-2023, 11:23
What do you think about me hard-clearing Visor/Yolo?

Sure? I mean i think they are both more likely villa than not

I personally wouldnt clear them for those reasons cause even the best players can get lazy as wolves sometimes when there is nothing to do.

Its like clearing a good player cause "theyd be trying harder as a wolf" which ime is a p rand read

ladd
02-05-2023, 11:24
Doesn?t look like Logic is gonna contribute so feel free imo.

Ya but maybe sk wants to add something tho he has made his view of gamestate pretty clear

Visor
02-05-2023, 13:27
For posterity, since i saw c4 get a lot of heat late game in one of these invitationals for posting less the later days despite being obv villa d1/d2.

C4 is not a wolf. I wouldnt even look at him until f3

noted for now in italics

logic not posting feels like a decent sign

i agree with whoever said to roleblock hk to clear him up (though i think its reasonable odds we're in for a d2 sweep given sk and logics posting today tbh)

Visor
02-05-2023, 13:28
i'm fine with a maj whenever

i got nothing more to add

baudib1
02-05-2023, 13:30
vote: SK

Some meme inserted here

baudib1
02-05-2023, 13:54
I guess we’re at a point where it’s obvious what needs to be done and not much needs to be said.

I doubt it’s a D2 sweep because things are never this easy. We shouldn’t be complacent because the game could get difficult in a hurry.

See you at F3.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 14:56
vote: SK

Some meme inserted here

Do not maj!

I want to have the time.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 14:57
I just had a wonderful couscous btw. Highly recommended

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 14:59
I now look like Jabbah the Hut looking for Han Solo to happen

baudib1
02-05-2023, 15:09
Do not Maj. I want Raskolinov to have couscous.

dyachei
02-05-2023, 15:53
i suspect logic is gonna flip v

sk more likely than not to be a wolf

I'd love more people to read ender

baudib1
02-05-2023, 15:57
i suspect logic is gonna flip v

sk more likely than not to be a wolf

I'd love more people to read ender

I agree with your general assessment that he's actively wolfy.

I feel like HK is merely awkward...although if SK flips W that little "read my thoughts" post between them kinda blows my mind.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 16:16
You don?t think Yolo/Visor is controversial? You have HK 4th lowest and you don?t have a take on him?

- It obviously is but he asked me for a hot take and idk how much I believe in that.

- Basically. I correctly read HK as a wolf last time we played but i've also been very wrong about him in the past so I'm aware he has a particular style that's just harder to read for me. I think he's playing very much into his style. I'm not sure what more needs to be say. I just find other players townier.

I'm ok with maj in the sense that I don't really care that much but for other reasons I don't see why we shouldn't use the complete 48 hours to solve.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:18
If you read back the thread page by page instead of ISOs, HK still seems awkward af and just, out of flow and disconnected.

Ender does have some posts that seem villy but this reads like the wolf who made a weird kill who wants people to think a very specific thing.


Feels like the kind of kill that wolves would make when they think they're in the towncore and want to ensure they don't rock that boat.

But that's also possibly wifom so idk bruv

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:22
- It obviously is but he asked me for a hot take and idk how much I believe in that.

- Basically. I correctly read HK as a wolf last time we played but i've also been very wrong about him in the past so I'm aware he has a particular style that's just harder to read for me. I think he's playing very much into his style. I'm not sure what more needs to be say. I just find other players townier.

I'm ok with maj in the sense that I don't really care that much but for other reasons I don't see why we shouldn't use the complete 48 hours to solve.

can you sum up the case on me exactly? and yolo? you think visor/yolo bussed?

hollowkatt
02-05-2023, 16:25
So you think me and Yolo are wolves?

I find when people describe their suss like as poe this early in the game it?s generally because they?re informed and don?t know how to make a case on someone.

not yolo, just you

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:25
not yolo, just you

cool, how come

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 16:33
I meant hot takes not "read my mind and put it into the thread".

Do you think you're being railroaded (pushed with an agenda to eliminate you by wolves) or is "the thread" collectively missing something that makes you townie?

I think most of thep players currently in the game wants my head to some degree, so it's a bith of both, wolves pushing me and townies incorrectly reading me.

I don't think people are "missing" anything, everything I've done in the game is stuff I could've done as a wolf. I'm not sure I should be townread but at the same time I don't think I've done anything that really points toward being a wolf. I voted a wolf D1 (for context I'm actively not a busser), but the idea that credit shouldn't be given to that because Logic might be a wolf, and/or whoever didn't die there would've been poisoned is somewhat correct so I claim no credit there. The biggest arguments toward me that I've seen is like some of my posts of takes being weird or stuff. And to that I say people just are not that familiar with my towngame because I play in a non-conventional way sometimes. That's that.

I guess I wouldn't have killed Wisdom because I'm more comfortable around them but I don't expect y'all to believe that also.

If you wanted to know my reads onto ppl pushing me, from the people who had stuff to say about me the ones I've liked the most were Ladd and Dya, followed by Ender/C4. I've said this before but I really really think Dya is town, which is uncharacteristical from me bc I don't think I'm a good dya reader. Ladd is just playing towards what he believes a villager should be doing/saying and I believe in him believing that. Ender approach to Syn I liked even if I'm not sure I agree with it a ton. Not sure C4 would've been charitable to me as a wolf. Don't think he would've risked it.

I didn't like Baudi or Yolo. I feel Baudi's progression on me is absurdly unnatural. His last post on me feels like he's trying to get me on a gotcha. He also mentioned at one point my posts were terrible when Dya asked him what the case was on me, but like, I haven't seen his process on that, I think he's just going with the flow of what the thread feels. Yolo might just be chilling I guess but I don't see why he sees I'm a wolf other than Omgus. I might just be full confbiasing here ftr, but that's how I feel.

Now that I think about it I should prolly put Eph a tier lower. Didn't vibe with him this phase.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:36
I think most of thep players currently in the game wants my head to some degree, so it's a bith of both, wolves pushing me and townies incorrectly reading me.

I don't think people are "missing" anything, everything I've done in the game is stuff I could've done as a wolf. I'm not sure I should be townread but at the same time I don't think I've done anything that really points toward being a wolf. I voted a wolf D1 (for context I'm actively not a busser), but the idea that credit shouldn't be given to that because Logic might be a wolf, and/or whoever didn't die there would've been poisoned is somewhat correct so I claim no credit there. The biggest arguments toward me that I've seen is like some of my posts of takes being weird or stuff. And to that I say people just are not that familiar with my towngame because I play in a non-conventional way sometimes. That's that.

I guess I wouldn't have killed Wisdom because I'm more comfortable around them but I don't expect y'all to believe that also.

If you wanted to know my reads onto ppl pushing me, from the people who had stuff to say about me the ones I've liked the most were Ladd and Dya, followed by Ender/C4. I've said this before but I really really think Dya is town, which is uncharacteristical from me bc I don't think I'm a good dya reader. Ladd is just playing towards what he believes a villager should be doing/saying and I believe in him believing that. Ender approach to Syn I liked even if I'm not sure I agree with it a ton. Not sure C4 would've been charitable to me as a wolf. Don't think he would've risked it.

I didn't like Baudi or Yolo. I feel Baudi's progression on me is absurdly unnatural. His last post on me feels like he's trying to get me on a gotcha. He also mentioned at one point my posts were terrible when Dya asked him what the case was on me, but like, I haven't seen his process on that, I think he's just going with the flow of what the thread feels. Yolo might just be chilling I guess but I don't see why he sees I'm a wolf other than Omgus. I might just be full confbiasing here ftr, but that's how I feel.

Now that I think about it I should prolly put Eph a tier lower. Didn't vibe with him this phase.

yeah I honestly don't have a progression on you, I just see your posts and they're bad.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:46
SK, from my POV it went something like:

Baudib1: I have no idea wtf SK is,

SK: Baud is my top wolf for yada yada yada

(I can't even remember what you said, I just eyerolled and moved on)

SK: Baud what did you think of my post:

Baudib: It was bad.

Then you came in SOD and were talking about the votes on you and said I had a wolfily nuanced take, which I disagree, I didn't really have any take other than your posts are bad, and I wasn't voting you until like two hours ago.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 16:48
can you sum up the case on me exactly? and yolo? you think visor/yolo bussed?

There's currently no case on either. I've seen some individual stuff from both of you that I didn't like while also liking some stuff from most other players. I think I've mentioned most of these.

About Yolo/visor bussing. Ask me again in an hour.


yeah I honestly don't have a progression on you, I just see your posts and they're bad.

"Your posts are bad" is just a non statement. What does that even mean?. Elaborate.

Like, at the end of the day why does it matter how I get my results? If what you're trying to say by your posts are bad is that I'm wrong, that's something you shouldn't know. And if you go "well, you're wrong about me", then I could say the same thing to you about me. Like, I don't get why I should read you as town and I'm aware other people have mentioned it. I think there's some willingness to solve and some carefreeness to your tone that I could picture as townie but like ??. It doesn't sit right in my head that people have you as townie I think.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 16:51
SK, from my POV it went something like:

Baudib1: I have no idea wtf SK is,

SK: Baud is my top wolf for yada yada yada

(I can't even remember what you said, I just eyerolled and moved on)

SK: Baud what did you think of my post:

Baudib: It was bad.

Then you came in SOD and were talking about the votes on you and said I had a wolfily nuanced take, which I disagree, I didn't really have any take other than your posts are bad, and I wasn't voting you until like two hours ago.

Ok so your issue is me being wrong about you. Or you thinking my reasons for wolfreading you are dumb or w/e, which is something I can agree with.

Let's approach it from a different way. If neither of us are wolves, then who's wolfing? Bc if the answer is just something like hk/logic then I'm just gonna shrug.jpg and say "I guess" but I wish that weren't the case because it'd make for a boring game. And games normally aren't that easy ever.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:51
There's currently no case on either. I've seen some individual stuff from both of you that I didn't like while also liking some stuff from most other players. I think I've mentioned most of these.

About Yolo/visor bussing. Ask me again in an hour.



"Your posts are bad" is just a non statement. What does that even mean?. Elaborate.

Like, at the end of the day why does it matter how I get my results? If what you're trying to say by your posts are bad is that I'm wrong, that's something you shouldn't know. And if you go "well, you're wrong about me", then I could say the same thing to you about me. Like, I don't get why I should read you as town and I'm aware other people have mentioned it. I think there's some willingness to solve and some carefreeness to your tone that I could picture as townie but like ??. It doesn't sit right in my head that people have you as townie I think.

Honestly can't remember at this exact moment, Im sure I must have said something about you. I think I said something at some point that your posts aren't completely damning while other people were acting like you're an outed wolf. I just mostly think your posts lack any coherence although maybe that's on my end. I think the most concrete thing I remember is that you have a ridiculously terrible reads list.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 16:54
I think the most concrete thing I remember is that you have a ridiculously terrible reads list.

I've changed my mind I think baudi is town.

I think he's making the genuine townie mistake of associating being wrong with being a wolf.

Either that or he has absurd tmi problems as a wolf.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 16:54
Ok so your issue is me being wrong about you. Or you thinking my reasons for wolfreading you are dumb or w/e, which is something I can agree with.

Let's approach it from a different way. If neither of us are wolves, then who's wolfing? Bc if the answer is just something like hk/logic then I'm just gonna shrug.jpg and say "I guess" but I wish that weren't the case because it'd make for a boring game. And games normally aren't that easy ever.

I don't care if you're wrong about me as long as you're not obnoxious about it. My natural reaction is to simply ignore people pushing me 95% of the time. If you're V I'd guess that HK/Logic/Ender contains 1+ wolf most of the time, after that it gets tougher.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 17:06
Feels like the kind of kill that wolves would make when they think they're in the towncore and want to ensure they don't rock that boat.

But that's also possibly wifom so idk bruv


I wanna say memory says it felt a lot cleaner than I expect from wolf-Ladd.

Also I will add that Wolf!Ladd is fully capable of pushing my bad villageriness and the fact that he hasn't is strangely a great look.

Like I honestly dunno why wolf!Ladd doesn't see my D1 and then just yeet Pzelda and tie me to that sinking ship so he can yeet me D2.

Unlike last game with Vulgard and the hero shot it probably would've straight worked and I'd be sinking with SK still on the sidelines.


I've changed my mind I think baudi is town.

I think he's making the genuine townie mistake of associating being wrong with being a wolf.

Either that or he has absurd tmi problems as a wolf.

I guess if you flip V I’ll have to have some tough talks with the Bronanas.

You win this round I guess.
Vote: Ender

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 17:56
Ok so I'll be rereading D1 with a flip in mind.


It means

V - HK
Null - everyone else

Lol.

- Wisdom reading BaudiV prolly a good look for him even if other ppl also did, idt you nk wisdom there as baudi. Maybe same goes for syn. This is v small points tho, not worth a lot.

- I've also been squinting at some of rasks posts. One where he sees HK on a positive light and the other one where he talks about baudi and instantly clarifies something that might seem contradictory on his end. Tho I've been liking some other posts of his on my second read.

- I feel anyone could've voted Pzelda after Ladd's comment on him. Like, I only kinda want to give ladd points for that. Yolo commented something like "yeah ladd that's my secret wolfread too" and Visor followed Ladd when the pzelda topic came up. Like I'm not going to say it's a bus but I don't see why it couldn't be, pzelda wasn't receiving a lot of favorable comments there.


I have not much thought on pzelda but ngl the fact that the wagon showed up when HK was first getting voted too feels kinda weirdchamp.

This is a townie. it's very brazen if HK is a townie. I think this is a townie who genuinely believes in his HK push and has not a lot of thoughts on Pzelda. Otherwise like, why would you stick your hand out for pzelda there? I don't get it.


then maybe you should get some thoughts on pzelda


Who are the wolves pushing on pzelda to save HK?
What's your read on the former?

These are both in answer to the Ender. Both kinda activate my (!) radar, because if I see a townie being positive towards one of my teammates who I might bus, I nitpick this point, to make Ender look bad.


Pzelda's wagon is suspiciously timed when HK was getting heat. I don't think the way the two interacted is w/w. Therefore Pzelda is town.

Am I misremembering or weren't you agreeing that HK's whole thing was sus? Why aren't you voting there?

Ok so at this point I feel I need to check if Ender is this ballsy as a wolf. Maybe he can be and I'm missclearing him here.


Thread: HK Does a weird thing
People: Start to vote HK
Me: Starts to push HK
Other people: "So about this pzelda chump."

HK pressure suddenly dips.

If I'm right about HK being wolf then straight up it's suspicious that the pzelda sus started where it did.

Ender is absurdly a townie. Like no way this is a wolf. I'd need to make a quick meta check just to know if this is the wolf style he plays, but lmao if this is a wolf. Partially stopping here to say this.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 18:38
95%-ish of the time I never see a partner enter thread and have their *only read* being a weird townread on their partner.

That just... doesn't happen. I can think of less than the number of fingers on my hands that I've seen it live in my years of mafia.

- I kinda agree with this but don't think I'd put too much stock in it. Actually the scenario where Ender is a wolf alongside HK and Pzelda makes some sense. I think Rask is actually ok from this exchange. Didn't like visor. Eph is here too but don't have a lot to say, tho this post of him is interesting in italics.


more than the timing of the wagon imo you're writing them off as not w/w just a bit too easily tbh


why would wolves save me here when they can get on board with "wow hk looks so similar to this specific wolf game" reads and push me across the line?
Assuming I'm wolfing here don't they get some credit for that chop/push?
Conversely if I'm town they can brush their hands off and go "meh he looked really bad" and nobody cares. There's no real point from a wolf perspective to save me afaict

WHAT IS THIS POST LMAO.


My first thought was "oh, Ender is really going out of his way to prevent pzelda to be a thing" fwiw.

I agree but at the same time I want to believe Ender is town and if I were a wolf seeing what was happening I definitely set Ender up for a Pzelda flip lol.


for those more familiar with them

is it within ender's w range to loudly defend a partner for a solid hour(?) and then to immediately swap to a bus when they realize it's not working?

Ok so Ephe is a wolf who's tmi'ing pzelda wolf here.

It's very funny that I'm a villager here because from y'all pov I'm f'ing wilding here because I do concede how easy it can be to read Ender as a wolf here for giving shit to the pzelda wagon forming but I do kind of want to f'ing buy that he's doing it because he believed HK to be a wolf. Like even if he's a wolf he sold that well and I respect it so if Ender is a wolf I'm randomly wolfsiding and skill issueing myself, I don't care.

I think some of Yolo's post about ender are ok but if the wolfteam has already preevemptily decided to bus pzelda then his posts looks like a bus because a lot of them they only mention pzelda. His comments on Ender are ok.

Like, I think Visor/Yolo would work as a team tho I guess you'd have to ignore HK/Logic potentially flipping w lol. Visor had Yolo a bit lower than thread which felt a bit weird perhaps.

Syn on these few pages has been really whatever. It's hard to read him witouth meta. I think his progression is really consistent even if I disagree with his reads. Like, it's easy to follow where his head is, but it's not easy to see why, but at the same time he doesn't care to show why. I think syn as a wolf would be more inclined to "sell" or "perform", even tho I don't particularly think his posts are townie.

Ok I stopped giving a f sorry I'm hungry and I've read the part of the game that I didn't read. Maybe there's some interesting shit happening but every post I've read from pzelda is a bit UGH in the sense that he's word salading a bit too much and it's hard to see what he'd do about his partner, it's more interesting seein what ppl have to say about him.

Anyways babe new readlist just dropped. Ordered between tiers now.

Ladd/Dya
Ender*
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Somewhat of a gap here, I think Ender is town but I have never seen his wolgame so idk, I've seen Dya/Ladd wolf and this ain't it yet.
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Rask (vibing)
C4 (vibing but casually)
Baudi (redemption arc)
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Syn (feelings, hard to say)
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Visor/Eph
HK/Yolo

Last 4 are my poe. I'm also partially working from the assumption than logic is town because it's more fun to hunt for a duo than a single wolf. I think a lot of people pushed for logic/pzelda at EOD1 so we're either seeing omegabus territory or else the wolf could only be a couple of players who maybe weren't at eod or some shit.

I decided to put visor a bit up because there's a part of me that says "this could just be his towngame" and I'm like yeah it's possible. Like I must be wrong somewhere and it might be him.

Hk idk what to do with honestly and I think is who I'd lunch here. Eph I maybe overreacting but I didn't like the ender stuff on retrospective. Yolo ehhh didn't like his D2 and some of his D1 feels too much of a bus, if yolo is a wolf both wolves were prolly in on the bus, because I don't see yolo bussing and the other wolf not bussing.

I think I'd like to see what ppl have to say about eph tho the play might be to just lunch HK. Aside from me going over I mean. But I don't feel I want to lunch HK here and I'm never voting visor here D2. I'm a bit trapped bc I don't like to instantly go for ppl voting for the wolf wagon on D1 by D2, but someone off wagon died.

From the ppl not on Pzelda the only one in my poe is hk so if it ain't hk we're just in bussing territory. Actually I don't think HK + X who's not bussing Pzelda works so we MUST be in a bussing scenario, and in that context, I'd guess both wolves would be bussing instead of one.

Logic being an incognita here kinda efwith me tho. Funnily y'all have already reaching the "someone is bussing" conclusion already but bc you think I'm a wolf lol.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 18:46
I weep for the state of wolfing if that's what you consider ballsy.

comments:

I think the Ender comment on the Pzelda wagon forming to save HK is just weird and alien to a town mindset. It's nowhere near EOD and plenty of people saw the HK stuff and didn't think it was the end of the world. Multiple wagons are allowed to form and it doesn't mean they're made to save anyone. I also don't know why it's not possible for Ender/Pzelda/HK to be the exact team. Zelda's role and play made him extremely bussable.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 18:48
Ok so I'll be rereading D1 with a flip in mind.



Lol.

- Wisdom reading BaudiV prolly a good look for him even if other ppl also did, idt you nk wisdom there as baudi. Maybe same goes for syn. This is v small points tho, not worth a lot.

- I've also been squinting at some of rasks posts. One where he sees HK on a positive light and the other one where he talks about baudi and instantly clarifies something that might seem contradictory on his end. Tho I've been liking some other posts of his on my second read.

- I feel anyone could've voted Pzelda after Ladd's comment on him. Like, I only kinda want to give ladd points for that. Yolo commented something like "yeah ladd that's my secret wolfread too" and Visor followed Ladd when the pzelda topic came up. Like I'm not going to say it's a bus but I don't see why it couldn't be, pzelda wasn't receiving a lot of favorable comments there.



This is a townie. it's very brazen if HK is a townie. I think this is a townie who genuinely believes in his HK push and has not a lot of thoughts on Pzelda. Otherwise like, why would you stick your hand out for pzelda there? I don't get it.





These are both in answer to the Ender. Both kinda activate my (!) radar, because if I see a townie being positive towards one of my teammates who I might bus, I nitpick this point, to make Ender look bad.



Ok so at this point I feel I need to check if Ender is this ballsy as a wolf. Maybe he can be and I'm missclearing him here.



Ender is absurdly a townie. Like no way this is a wolf. I'd need to make a quick meta check just to know if this is the wolf style he plays, but lmao if this is a wolf. Partially stopping here to say this.

What you do when wolfing isn't relevant to this read and doesn't apply here. It's nonsense. I mean If Ender is a townie without much thoughts on pzelda, he will NEVER react like he did. He will try to get thoughts on pzelda before calling out his wagon. That's why I reacted like I did (and so did Visor).

Ender's behavior does make sense if he is pzelda's partner lol

Also I was not bussing pzelda, I lead the wagon the whole day


Players Votes

Syn 2 (Visor, baudib1)
Hollowkatt 2 (noraplus, Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (Hollowkatt)
Pzelda 1 (Raskolnikov)
No Lynch 1 (Ephemeral)

whatthistextdo

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I thought Visor had voted pzelda much much earlier though (since he was pushing him with me) but it seems it took Yolo's and Ladd's vote for him to join. hmmm. I guess it's a problem for whoever ends up in F3 with him :curtain:

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 18:50
ohh another wall from SK. Let me proceed it :book2:

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 18:59
I weep for the state of wolfing if that's what you consider ballsy.

comments:

I think the Ender comment on the Pzelda wagon forming to save HK is just weird and alien to a town mindset. It's nowhere near EOD and plenty of people saw the HK stuff and didn't think it was the end of the world. Multiple wagons are allowed to form and it doesn't mean they're made to save anyone. I also don't know why it's not possible for Ender/Pzelda/HK to be the exact team. Zelda's role and play made him extremely bussable.

It IS ballsy! Like, most wolves try to be sneaky about their stances, they don't try to openly state they are absurdly wrong. I'm fully aware some wolves play like these, me included sometimes, but those are in the minority.

I get it doing towards another wolf in another position, but to pzelda, who was receiving a lot of heat and wasn't seen well in thread? What's the point? He had to foresee that pzelda was going over in the foreseeable future. I mean, he voted him. He porpusely set himself up to be wrong and looking like he's trying to save pzelda there? I find it a lot more likely that he was a villager who honestly believed HK was a wolf, and saw people going for someone who he thought was a bit w/e, and went "woah woah ppl what's happening here, we got our target right here".

And with no context or knowledge I think the take I'd have would be "Ender saw Hk catching heat early d1 and is trying to bus him, and is positioning himself to push ppl trying to go for pzelda later", but pzelda wasn't v so it isn't the case.

But yeah, this take could still make sense if the three of them are the team, which is something I've agreed to in my wall, but have now decided against it, because...


Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.

Like, no.

hollowkatt
02-05-2023, 19:06
I think most of thep players currently in the game wants my head to some degree, so it's a bith of both, wolves pushing me and townies incorrectly reading me.

I don't think people are "missing" anything, everything I've done in the game is stuff I could've done as a wolf. I'm not sure I should be townread but at the same time I don't think I've done anything that really points toward being a wolf. I voted a wolf D1 (for context I'm actively not a busser), but the idea that credit shouldn't be given to that because Logic might be a wolf, and/or whoever didn't die there would've been poisoned is somewhat correct so I claim no credit there. The biggest arguments toward me that I've seen is like some of my posts of takes being weird or stuff. And to that I say people just are not that familiar with my towngame because I play in a non-conventional way sometimes. That's that.

I guess I wouldn't have killed Wisdom because I'm more comfortable around them but I don't expect y'all to believe that also.

If you wanted to know my reads onto ppl pushing me, from the people who had stuff to say about me the ones I've liked the most were Ladd and Dya, followed by Ender/C4. I've said this before but I really really think Dya is town, which is uncharacteristical from me bc I don't think I'm a good dya reader. Ladd is just playing towards what he believes a villager should be doing/saying and I believe in him believing that. Ender approach to Syn I liked even if I'm not sure I agree with it a ton. Not sure C4 would've been charitable to me as a wolf. Don't think he would've risked it.

I didn't like Baudi or Yolo. I feel Baudi's progression on me is absurdly unnatural. His last post on me feels like he's trying to get me on a gotcha. He also mentioned at one point my posts were terrible when Dya asked him what the case was on me, but like, I haven't seen his process on that, I think he's just going with the flow of what the thread feels. Yolo might just be chilling I guess but I don't see why he sees I'm a wolf other than Omgus. I might just be full confbiasing here ftr, but that's how I feel.

Now that I think about it I should prolly put Eph a tier lower. Didn't vibe with him this phase.

vote: unvote

kinda like this and want to think bout it some more

Syn
02-05-2023, 19:09
Syn on these few pages has been really whatever. It's hard to read him witouth meta. I think his progression is really consistent even if I disagree with his reads. Like, it's easy to follow where his head is, but it's not easy to see why, but at the same time he doesn't care to show why. I think syn as a wolf would be more inclined to "sell" or "perform", even tho I don't particularly think his posts are townie.


just straight chillin' bro

Syn
02-05-2023, 19:10
vote: unvote

kinda like this and want to think bout it some more

you shouldn't like it

baudib1
02-05-2023, 19:16
just straight chillin' bro

turn up the heat like 5 degrees imo

hollowkatt
02-05-2023, 19:36
you shouldn't like it

ur not my dad

Syn
02-05-2023, 19:41
turn up the heat like 5 degrees imo

i went to the school of pizza. anyone who keeps using "honestly" is a wolf

:Zzzz:

Sunbae
02-05-2023, 20:05
VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 4 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin 3 Syn dyachei baudib1
Ladd 1 EnderWiggin


MAJ is in effect and is 7

EOD in approx 5 hours

noraplus
02-05-2023, 20:14
spew wise i got nothing out of logic's iso lol

baudib and visor were kinda all over him tho

noraplus
02-05-2023, 20:25
i feel like dya legit tried to talk to logic about his wtf read on them

ladd
02-05-2023, 20:29
vote:hollowkat

baudib1
02-05-2023, 20:30
I changed my mind on voting Ender right now.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 20:31
unvote

baudib1
02-05-2023, 20:33
Idk bruv I thought my worldview was pretty obvious.

HK is the town who I think clearing will 100% solve the game. I'm not against the towncore who has formed, so my job is to help clear the POE. Seems pretty straightforward.

I'm trying to catch any wolves floating outside the consensus POE, but I also think SK is likely wolf. In fact I wanna say I was the first person in thread to call SK out. Only reason I'm not voting there was because people didn't want to hammer so I'm leaving my joke Ladd vote up (which I thought was obvious but apparently not.)

It?s not because of SK?s posts. I think this post is highly likely a villa post.

noraplus
02-05-2023, 20:33
Vote: hollowkatt

i was here

ladd
02-05-2023, 20:36
Hk has just not shown at any point he isnt a wolf with tmi imo

I get the argument he is not w/w with zelda but its not enough for me

And given sk's last posts id rather have sk peeked than hk (assuming logic flips w)

ladd
02-05-2023, 20:39
I still have some problems with sk's recent posts

Like saying he didnt vibe with eph d2 is a bit ?? Given eph has barely said anythjng and i think his wolfread on baudib still bad (not cause its wrong, i thought the reasoning was bad)

But i think he probably did enough for me to go hk here over him or at least actually have an eod

noraplus
02-05-2023, 20:42
(i still feel like hk is more likely but i don't feel strongly, i just voted for the option to exist)

ladd
02-05-2023, 20:42
(i still feel like hk is more likely but i don't feel strongly, i just voted for the option to exist)

Whatchu think of sk's recent posts?

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 20:43
Hk has just not shown at any point he isnt a wolf with tmi imo

I get the argument he is not w/w with zelda but its not enough for me

And given sk's last posts id rather have sk peeked than hk (assuming logic flips w)

What about SK's last posts?

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 20:44
Whatchu think of sk's recent posts?

lol xpost. U first pal

noraplus
02-05-2023, 20:45
Whatchu think of sk's recent posts?

i haven't fully parsed them, but they seem ~fine~ and he does feel unbothered by his impending doom

ladd
02-05-2023, 20:46
What about SK's last posts?

i said it in my next post. i don't think they are SUPER villagery but they are def more villagery than anything else he has posted so far

baudib1
02-05-2023, 20:48
Think I will end up back on SK unless someone is really certain he?s a mediocre wolf.

I feel like he did enough to get by and get some invites and maybe he believes dime of what he?s saying (some of it could just be TMI) but I think an above-average player can pull off wolf rhetoric pretty well for 3-4 paragraphs.

ladd
02-05-2023, 20:50
from today i am fine clearing baudib and i am probably fine clearing dya. i am 100% fine clearing dya if logic is a wolf


Think I will end up back on SK unless someone is really certain he?s a mediocre wolf.

I feel like he did enough to get by and get some invites and maybe he believes dime of what he?s saying (some of it could just be TMI) but I think an above-average player can pull off wolf rhetoric pretty well for 3-4 paragraphs.

he is a really good wolf afair. think he won best wolf for some year on MU #awardsreads

Syn
02-05-2023, 20:51
Think I will end up back on SK unless someone is really certain he?s a mediocre wolf.

lol

lmao

Syn
02-05-2023, 20:55
actually idk who baudib is

have they ever been on MU

Syn
02-05-2023, 20:58
anyway vote ender

baudib1
02-05-2023, 20:59
from today i am fine clearing baudib and i am probably fine clearing dya. i am 100% fine clearing dya if logic is a wolf



he is a really good wolf afair. think he won best wolf for some year on MU #awardsreads

ok yeah. at worst if he flips V I can harass the bronanas

vote:silverkeith


actually idk who baudib is

have they ever been on MU

i'm an old-school player mostly mashes on POG, famous for being slightly above average as both alignments.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 21:03
maybe famous isn't the right word...there's a clique of like 80 dudes who played WW around 2015 who don't me.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 21:06
Rereading thursday posts (midDay1 to EOD1) and I gotta say Ender is prolly villa :stare:

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 21:07
I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

I like yoloswag on this page. I'll give him a V-read.

Visor thanking posts seems hmmmmm.

C4 seems a tad more free flowing than the invitational where I just wolfed with him. I'll sort him town and not regret that today.

I see pzelda has a wagon, but I have seen zero posts since I jumped in, so I may just bow to consensus there, because I tend to V-read him regardless of his alignment.

Especially if Logic turns out to be a wolf. Like the bold read feels like TMI (funnily enough it's not Ender who posted that lolol)

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:13
Especially if Logic turns out to be a wolf. Like the bold read feels like TMI (funnily enough it's not Ender who posted that lolol)

thx for requoting that post

i still chuckle at the visor thanking post seems uhmmmmm lmao

Syn
02-05-2023, 21:16
i'm an old-school player mostly mashes on POG, famous for being slightly above average as both alignments.

Oh, okay. That makes it less funny, then. SK is very good, peer-reviewed.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 21:20
Oh, okay. That makes it less funny, then. SK is very good, peer-reviewed.


BITD we used to wolf on Skype and on forums with no thread summaries or instant vote counts smh. it was a simple game of wolves lunching villagers and villagers lunching wolves. we would make tiered lists with our 8 wolf buddies as our top villa reads and shout down and town who dared question it.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 21:24
Think I will end up back on SK unless someone is really certain he?s a mediocre wolf.

�� �� ��️?

Syn
02-05-2023, 21:25
Rereading thursday posts (midDay1 to EOD1) and I gotta say Ender is prolly villa :stare:

et tu, raskolus?

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 21:28
et tu, raskolus?

What's up buddy? I have ascended to the envious status of thread spewed town. Hopefully soon an happy shitposting in dvc dead townie.

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:28
et tu, raskolus?

why do you think ender is a wolf?

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 21:29
vote: hollowkatt

baudib1
02-05-2023, 21:29
�� �� ��️?

hey bub

our little interaction was sweet and you may fool some of these noobs like ladd but I could do that as a wolf blindfolded and wrapped in cheesecloth.

Syn
02-05-2023, 21:32
why do you think ender is a wolf?

only posts to push an agenda, and then when confronted about it, he hems and haws and ends with an "oopsies, nevermind!" like he's a lovable rapscallion, only to return and do it again

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 21:34
neither, both, not sure basically. I wanted to throw that out there for some thoughts to chew on. Didn't really see anyone other than you respond to it but I'm still doing catch up.

I am finding myself getting less and less solvy on D1 and more and more "lets get through today, see who's chopped/nk'd and then start digging in"
Maybe that's wrongo dongo but I kinda like it.

I do have thoughts on the game I've posted today so maybe that's something you can dig into

I do think this is straight up a lie. (played a light lol game on the syndicate 3 weeks ago where HK burried a wolf D1)

Also not buying his Dya read. (again the confidence which sweats out of it)


Picture HK leaning back in his chair mulling this post around in his mind:

Hmm, faint undertones of suspicion and paranoia coupled with a full body of self-importance all combined with the subtle bloom of wanting to be right.

Dya is town.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 21:36
hey bub

our little interaction was sweet and you may fool some of these noobs like ladd but I could do that as a wolf blindfolded and wrapped in cheesecloth.

I'll try to recreate my joke with local fauna simleys.

:snowman: :angel: :7knight:

anyways yeah my whole post is completely in my wolfrange if that's what you wanted to hear but that doesn't make me a wolf lol.

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:38
only posts to push an agenda, and then when confronted about it, he hems and haws and ends with an "oopsies, nevermind!" like he's a lovable rapscallion, only to return and do it again

i find it intriguing that everyone that knows ender seems to think he is a wolf and everyone who doesnt know him seems to think he is more likely a villager

meta vs posting, the eternal battle

let's see who will win this round

baudib1
02-05-2023, 21:38
I'll try to recreate my joke with local fauna simleys.

:snowman: :angel: :7knight:

anyways yeah my whole post is completely in my wolfrange if that's what you wanted to hear but that doesn't make me a wolf lol.

yeah fair

anyway say you're a villager...i know you sus visor/yolo. who else is someone who is skating by here?

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:39
I'll try to recreate my joke with local fauna simleys.

:snowman: :angel: :7knight:

anyways yeah my whole post is completely in my wolfrange if that's what you wanted to hear but that doesn't make me a wolf lol.

ftr what i found kinda villagery where the little things like saying "i am gonna solve for 2 wolves" (there is more) so if you are wolf you should keep those up

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 21:45
yeah fair

anyway say you're a villager...i know you sus visor/yolo. who else is someone who is skating by here?

I'm not sure. In my mind I kinda want to turn off my brain a bit and just hope one of HK/Logic being a wolf and then I can just look for the third.

I'm not even sure if a wolf would skate by here because it would be notorious. When you're a villager you're more pumped to solve right after a flip I guess so the play for a wolf would be to try and be proactive.

I'm considering Eph as a posible wolf. I guess Rask/You are possible blindspots bc I've never played with you but don't feel that's currently the case.

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:48
I'm not sure. In my mind I kinda want to turn off my brain a bit and just hope one of HK/Logic being a wolf and then I can just look for the third.

I'm not even sure if a wolf would skate by here because it would be notorious. When you're a villager you're more pumped to solve right after a flip I guess so the play for a wolf would be to try and be proactive.

I'm considering Eph as a posible wolf. I guess Rask/You are possible blindspots bc I've never played with you but don't feel that's currently the case.

consider rask peeked, i'll take all the blame if they are a wolf

baudib1
02-05-2023, 21:49
I'm not sure. In my mind I kinda want to turn off my brain a bit and just hope one of HK/Logic being a wolf and then I can just look for the third.

I'm not even sure if a wolf would skate by here because it would be notorious. When you're a villager you're more pumped to solve right after a flip I guess so the play for a wolf would be to try and be proactive.

I'm considering Eph as a posible wolf. I guess Rask/You are possible blindspots bc I've never played with you but don't feel that's currently the case.

Eph is interesting, I have them as floating slightly above the PoE all game, probably everyone's PoE.

If you want references, Visor has played a lot of games with me bitd, Yolo knows my wolf game quite well. I'm not sure if I have wolfed against Ladd, but I have wolfed with Ladd and V/V with him, Dya has seen me wolf in a game this size.

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 21:49
Cool. Guess I'm currently waiting for HK to post or see if ppl have something to say about Eph.

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:50
Cool. Guess I'm currently waiting for HK to post or see if ppl have something to say about Eph.

can you expand on why you didnt vibe with their d2?

i mean i guess its kinda of a rethoric question but i think their d2 is like exactly rand

ladd
02-05-2023, 21:50
can you expand on why you didnt vibe with their d2?

i mean i guess its kinda of a rethoric question but i think their d2 is like exactly rand

wrt eph to be clear

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 21:57
I think Ephe's EOD1 will need a revisit if Logic is actually town (which I have conf-biased myself into not believing tbh)

SilverKeith
02-05-2023, 22:00
can you expand on why you didnt vibe with their d2?

i mean i guess its kinda of a rethoric question but i think their d2 is like exactly rand

have you vibed with anything he has said D2?

I remember vibing with some of the stuff he has said D1 but I went back and he has an exchange I don't like.

Like yeah he has posted less but other people have been townier this D2 I guess. But no, I don't feel he has really been wolfy tho I can't recall a lot of what he has said.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 22:01
shh that's my secret cfd target


I thought I was voting ender but realized formatting was wrong.
vote: enderwiggin


why is pzelda a wagon? cliffs is fine

lmao this streak of posts. (it doesn't feel like HK had any willingness to vote Logic, caveat I don't remember if he did at some point. still readin')

Sunbae
02-05-2023, 22:03
VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 4 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral baudib1
hollowkatt 3 ladd noraplus Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
ladd 1 EnderWiggin


MAJ is in effect and is 7
EOD is in approx 3 hours

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 22:05
shh that's my secret cfd target


I thought I was voting ender but realized formatting was wrong.
vote: enderwiggin
Visor: stop cricket and come hear yeet HK. We will just blame Ladd if wrong. Pure profit

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 22:05
quote drama, sorry about it

baudib1
02-05-2023, 22:08
vote: hollowkatt

baudib1
02-05-2023, 22:13
I’m kinda curious how much town cred I can accumulate without actually lunching a wolf.

baudib1
02-05-2023, 22:14
I’m kinda curious how much town cred I can accumulate without actually lunching a wolf.

^wolfy post m’lord

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 22:23
is it too hopeful to think this is so out of nowhere it might be w/w lol

I dont think so c4.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 22:34
shh that's my secret cfd target


D1 me, you coward.


vote: logic

ok

hmmmmm

Logic
02-05-2023, 22:51
Vote: Hollowkatt

I said I preferred HK to SK, and my skimming of the last few pages hasn't changed my mind.
Going to go back and read some more, but @me if you want my attention.

Syn
02-05-2023, 22:52
Vote: Hollowkatt

I said I preferred HK to SK, and my skimming of the last few pages hasn't changed my mind.
Going to go back and read some more, but @me if you want my attention.

hmmmmmm

hollowkatt
02-05-2023, 23:24
highly unlikely I'll be here for EOD so legacy:

town:
rask
ender
ladd
visor
syn
dya

here there be dragons:
yolo
ephemeral
silverkeith
logic

wolves:
baudib1

vote: baudib1

if I missed you it's my fault not yours. anyways, glgl town

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:24
only posts to push an agenda, and then when confronted about it, he hems and haws and ends with an "oopsies, nevermind!" like he's a lovable rapscallion, only to return and do it again

If I was charitable you can literally only describe one of my reads like that and it was the Pzelda read.

Where else have I "Hemmed and hawed and oopsie, neverminded"?

Syn's reads have literally not evolved at all and reading over SK's walls makes me start to doubt my read on there too.

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:26
consider rask peeked, i'll take all the blame if they are a wolf

I second this.

Like if Rask pulled this off as wolf then I will be surprised.

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:30
I don't like the SK vote anymore.

I still think HK is town for earlier reasons.

I have a small townread on Ender.

Hm.

vote: baudib1 - And now for something completely different.

Sunbae
02-05-2023, 23:31
VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 5 ladd noraplus Raskolnikov baudib1 logic
SilverKeith 3 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
ladd 1 EnderWiggin
baudib1 1 hollowkatt

MAJ is in effect and is 7
EOD is in approx 90 minutes

Sunbae
02-05-2023, 23:32
VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 5 ladd noraplus Raskolnikov baudib1 logic
SilverKeith 3 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin

MAJ is in effect and is 7

EOD is in approx 90 minutes

baudib1
02-05-2023, 23:32
I don't like the SK vote anymore.

I still think HK is town for earlier reasons.

I have a small townread on Ender.

Hm.

vote: baudib1 - And now for something completely different.

wat

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:33
Kinda want to vote Syn more because it feels like Syn is using being hyper tunnelled on me as an excuse not to have to show content/thought/progression in thread.

If wolf he literally picked up I was defending his partner then hard-pushed me without ever supporting the PZ wagon.

(Also Logic disappearing while poisoned might be wolfy so the HK vote just reinforces my belief HK is town.)

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:33
wat

Yes your honour?

baudib1
02-05-2023, 23:34
Yes your honour?

what did you mean by Ender

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 23:41
I second this.

Like if Rask pulled this off as wolf then I will be surprised.

Lettuce play on the giraffe boards again :curtain:

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:42
what did you mean by Ender

I'm talking about all the lead wagons your honour.

I was going down the list on the wagons and reasoning why I didn't want to join them. The third on the list was "Enderwiggin" as per document #1102.

I didn't think I had much of a read on this "Ender" fellow, so to explain why I wasn't voting him, your honour, I mentioned that I read him as a bit of an English country community. A 'town', if you will.

Does that answer your questions, your honour?

baudib1
02-05-2023, 23:42
So Logic typed Ender when he meant me.
I’m trying to conjure up the possible perspective from which you give yourself a small town lean.



I don't like the SK vote anymore.

I still think HK is town for earlier reasons.

I have a small townread on Ender.

Hm.

vote: baudib1 - And now for something completely different.

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:43
Lettuce play on the giraffe boards again :curtain:

Throw me an invite to a game and I am down pending time availability.

Also yes I get this is a subtle jab at the time I townread you on GB and you were wolf =P

But I don't think you hard-wagoned a partner that game.

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:43
So Logic typed Ender when he meant me.
I’m trying to conjure up the possible perspective from which you give yourself a small town lean.

Your honour, I made a joke I thought was funny.

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:47
(The truth is I was giving you a townread Baudib but I mistyped Ender instead and mixed up between my vote and townread.

I was supposed to Vote Ender instead.)

baudib1
02-05-2023, 23:48
(The truth is I was giving you a townread Baudib but I mistyped Ender instead and mixed up between my vote and townread.

I was supposed to Vote Ender instead.)

I reject your townread on me.

ladd
02-05-2023, 23:48
unvote

Ill be back before eod

EnderWiggin
02-05-2023, 23:48
I reject your townread on me.

Well it's a good thing I mistyped and voted you instead then. I couldn't live with myself after the rejection.

Raskolnikov
02-05-2023, 23:52
Not usually in his towngame either lol


There's also just the chance that it wasn't planned at all and he got caught with his pants down and now isn't sure how to recover.

I have seen HK do that before.

Like "I don't see the reason for him doing it" when it was a pressure progression on him doesn't make sense to me.

Wolves don't plan to be pushed.


I still think his play is in line with the previous game.

Pzelda's first initial fucky posts that end up saying nothing until they just have a weirdo hard townread on HK for no reason.

That just isn't w/w.

Ender, walk me through this progression pls. (I mean at this point we already had our backnforth re pzelda and you were SRing him iirc)

Visor
02-05-2023, 23:59
sup, not really here but wanted to say i saw a bunch of SK posts and while i haven't had the time to digest them i am considering not killing him today just in case

(can't wait to be clowned on in dvc when SK is a wolf)

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:02
has eph even been around today?

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:03
don't think so. He was briefly around at SOD2 iirc

EnderWiggin
02-06-2023, 00:03
Ender, walk me through this progression pls. (I mean at this point we already had our backnforth re pzelda and you were SRing him iirc)

I was SRing him with a side of "I hope Pzelda flips town so I can throw this back in their face and go back to HK."

The first post was nothing to do with progression, Dya's point about why it can't be wolf!HK just felt dumb because it was something I didn't expect from HK in the first place.

The second post was just straight up was a weird counter to HK pressure, I thought at the time as well.

Because tbh while I was very confident in PZelda/HK not being paired I still wanted HK to be the wolf in there. So I was sulkily voting and agreeing that Pzelda looked wolfy while nursing my HK read for the next day if I was right.

That's the first 2 posts, the last one was AFTER Pzelda had flipped wolf, and at that point I had to face blinding reality that I had just been wrong.

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:07
sup, not really here but wanted to say i saw a bunch of SK posts and while i haven't had the time to digest them i am considering not killing him today just in case

(can't wait to be clowned on in dvc when SK is a wolf)

SK doing just enough to not get votes and then dipping is definitely a thing.

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 00:07
VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 4 noraplus Raskolnikov baudib1 logic
SilverKeith 3 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin

MAJ is in effect and is 7

EOD in approx 50 minutes

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:09
I dont think so c4.

he later said that that was a joke

idk if i believe that lol like what is the joke even supposed to be, but i can't say i know his sense of humor well enough to make a call on that

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:11
Vote: Hollowkatt

I said I preferred HK to SK, and my skimming of the last few pages hasn't changed my mind.
Going to go back and read some more, but @me if you want my attention.

...how much wine do i wash this down with

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:12
SK doing just enough to not get votes and then dipping is definitely a thing.

left it late in the day too lol

idk

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:13
left it late in the day too lol

idk

Something tells me he’ll be back.

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:14
dyachei

If you’re around I’d like to hear more of your thoughts on these wagons.

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:15
So Logic typed Ender when he meant me.
I?m trying to conjure up the possible perspective from which you give yourself a small town lean.

ender was clearly sarcastically saying "i think ender is town"

but also lol this is a sick post if you're a wolf

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:15
Idk how to feel about that Logic post.

From a theoretical level it doesn’t seem correct to be voting with him.

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:16
ender was clearly sarcastically saying "i think ender is town"

but also lol this is a sick post if you're a wolf

nah just a doofus

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:19
Idk how to feel about that Logic post.

From a theoretical level it doesn’t seem correct to be voting with him.

i mean, yeah, idt he's really pretending he's town anymore

i want to say it's all wifom and ignore it but like, does he really want to lose the game on the spot lol

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:19
Apropos of nothing, I have this theory that instead of trying to parse the words and spew of a wolf who was practically dead on arrival we should just lunch the wolfy people.

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:21
I am starting to get the feeling we may need to dig a bit deeper to find the last wolf

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:23
Ender, tbh I think pzelda was a bit rusty there and just got a rough rand.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:23
where you at on SK ladd?

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:24
Ender, tbh I think pzelda was a bit rusty there and just got a rough rand.

fwiw i agree with this, ive played against capage as a wolf a few times, and hes never posted this badly before

it was just kinda howling from the start

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:24
where you at on SK ladd?

I liked his last bunch of posts a bit

For the rest idk

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:27
Wolfing is high variance. People are way more consistent in their village game.

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:28
SK always the peek tonight assuming Logic is woofing

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:28
I'm v likely just voting HK.

I'd like to see more from Eph tomorrow. I think HK/Eph/Logic cointains one almost always but 2 is like a 40%. I'd also like to read more from Yolo, I don't think he ever explained his vote on me.

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:28
Yolo missing the whole day makes me feel meh.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:29
both eph and yolo going afk today is a little meh

i know its teh weekend and shit (and lord knoiws i wasn't around lol) but still

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:30
both eph and yolo going afk today is a little meh

i know its teh weekend and shit (and lord knoiws i wasn't around lol) but still

you culturally appropriated my last post

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:31
you culturally appropriated my last post

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/079/173/ed2.png

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 00:32
VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 4 noraplus Raskolnikov baudib1 logic
SilverKeith 3 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin

MAJ is in effect and is 7

EOD is in 30ish minutes

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:33
Skimmed a couple of capage wolf games on mu and he seems like he tends to tmi more than to powerwolf by quite a good margin

A game he got lunched d1 and cross bussed with all his partners whi went on to win with the cred

Idk how that makes me feel about tbe chances of hk flipping wolf here

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:33
Remember when we were young
And wilfs were just outing themselves in 3 posts
A chortle
A guffaw
Many lols were had

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:34
I'm v likely just voting HK.

I'd like to see more from Eph tomorrow. I think HK/Eph/Logic cointains one almost always but 2 is like a 40%. I'd also like to read more from Yolo, I don't think he ever explained his vote on me.

i was p close to just voting HK and peacing out but can't help but think this post is something i post as a wolf when i dodge the lynch

esp the v likely voting hk bit (ofc you are, hes your counter, you have no other options lol)

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:36
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/079/173/ed2.png

I made this meme pal.

https://media.tenor.com/o9owbF_iALAAAAAC/sad-cat.gif

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:37
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK.

For fun capage made this post word for word in a wolf game on mu and it was about 2 villas

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:37
I guess associations dont matter much given logic will hopefully flip w but dont think hk is with syn/ender

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:38
For fun capage made this post word for word in a wolf game on mu and it was about 2 villas

the issue is how long do you think we can actually let HK go on in this game? Check out his last post of the day.

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 00:40
VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 4 noraplus Raskolnikov baudib1 logic
SilverKeith 3 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin

MAJ is in effect and is 7

EOD is in approx 20 minutes

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:41
yall got thoughts on that last sk post?

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:41
yall got thoughts on that last sk post?

Not really

I am kinda back at sk making more sense as a wolf tham hk but its not cause of anything sk posted

Also wouldnt be shocked if its neither

EnderWiggin
02-06-2023, 00:41
the issue is how long do you think we can actually let HK go on in this game? Check out his last post of the day.

Forever cause he's town.

Like legit I would prefer you just flip me and then when you see I'm town you just leave HK alive as an inno check and I take the blame if I'm wrong.

But like, also, I do not think I'm wrong on this.

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:41
yall got thoughts on that last sk post?

He’s a cool customer. Pretty brazen, kinda love it. Would lunch.

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:42
yall got thoughts on that last sk post?

Yeah he's v townie.

I don't have a lot to say aside from what I've said earlier. It feels like you're trying to capitalize on my lunch bc you're getting it now or you're getting it never.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:43
Forever cause he's town.

Like legit I would prefer you just flip me and then when you see I'm town you just leave HK alive as an inno check and I take the blame if I'm wrong.

But like, also, I do not think I'm wrong on this.

ew david

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:43
Vote: SilverKeith

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:43
Not really

I am kinda back at sk making more sense as a wolf tham hk but its not cause of anything sk posted

Also wouldnt be shocked if its neither

who are the wolves if neither of us are? Logic + X?

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:43
Yeah he's v townie.

I don't have a lot to say aside from what I've said earlier. It feels like you're trying to capitalize on my lunch bc you're getting it now or you're getting it never.

no i didnt put any capitals in that post

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:44
I do think the first line is NAI Visor. Second one could be TMI but also nothing. shrug honnesly.

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:44
Forever cause he's town.

Like legit I would prefer you just flip me and then when you see I'm town you just leave HK alive as an inno check and I take the blame if I'm wrong.

But like, also, I do not think I'm wrong on this.

I could see HK being town but idk if I'm up to lunch other ppl now. Don't think I'm voting Syn here if that's your pick for a wolf.

There's the argument of "HK will still be around tomorrow if we miss today" but that's sometimes dumb and idk if I wanna go that route.

Just vote whoever you think it's a wolf I guess.

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:45
who are the wolves if neither of us are? Logic + X?

Probably ya

If logic is a wolf, dya isnt a wolf, visor shouldnt be a wolf either. Rask/c4 villa, baudib villa

So uh that leaves syn/yolo/eph (if you/hk v/v)

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:45
Feels like we’re taking an L today.

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:45
Yeah he's v townie.

I don't have a lot to say aside from what I've said earlier. It feels like you're trying to capitalize on my lunch bc you're getting it now or you're getting it never.

outing myself as lurking but, tf you mean "or you're getting it never" lol

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:46
idk man, thats a weird read esp given my posts at eod

i mean i get you gotta do something but still

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:46
I wish hk explained why he has baudib as a wolf

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:46
Probably ya

If logic is a wolf, dya isnt a wolf, visor shouldnt be a wolf either. Rask/c4 villa, baudib villa

So uh that leaves syn/yolo/eph (if you/hk v/v)

I'm ok with this.

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:47
outing myself as lurking but, tf you mean "or you're getting it never" lol

hopefull for a green peek I guess

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:47
outing myself as lurking but, tf you mean "or you're getting it never" lol

If wolves don't lunch me here when I'm at my lowest then they're going to have a harder time lunching me later.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:47
Probably ya

If logic is a wolf, dya isnt a wolf, visor shouldnt be a wolf either. Rask/c4 villa, baudib villa

So uh that leaves syn/yolo/eph (if you/hk v/v)

if logic is a wolf i cannot believe you have me only in the shouldn't be a wolf tier lol

idk what is with people and being allergic to clearing me

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:47
Oh i forgot ender

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:47
ladd's post left out ender but i think i'm mostly fine with that atp? lol

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:48
if logic is a wolf i cannot believe you have me only in the shouldn't be a wolf tier lol

idk what is with people and being allergic to clearing me

ur a slimy soab tbh

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:49
i do need to look over ender again (im not convinced hes as villagery as some of you have pointed out tbh) but his activity today has been fine

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:49
I hate to say it but SK gives us better information.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:49
ur a slimy soab tbh

so is everyone else smh

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:49
if logic is a wolf i cannot believe you have me only in the shouldn't be a wolf tier lol

idk what is with people and being allergic to clearing me

when i hero block you tonight imma call you "moderately confident v but reeval at f3"

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:49
If logic is a wolf it means I've literally only voted for my two partners this game. Like c'mon I'm a powerwolf listener I don't do that ever.

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:49
if logic is a wolf i cannot believe you have me only in the shouldn't be a wolf tier lol

idk what is with people and being allergic to clearing me

Idk i havent re read, i remember you being hard on logic but idr the details

I think i have shown i have no problems clearing you when thats how i feel

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:49
I hate to say it but SK gives us better information.

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SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:50
I hate to say it but SK gives us better information.

Tfw you have to use infolynch arguments to get me.

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 00:50
VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 4 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral baudib1
hollowkatt 3 noraplus Raskolnikov logic
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin

MAJ is in effect and is 7
EOD is in approx 10 minutes

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:50
If logic is a wolf it means I've literally only voted for my two partners this game.

...yeah, when they were the two competing wagons at eod? lmao

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:50
If logic is a wolf it means I've literally only voted for my two partners this game. Like c'mon I'm a powerwolf listener I don't do that ever.

You couldnt do anything else at eod

You did try opening the day with baudib/yolo pushes but it was too late

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:51
If logic is a wolf it means I've literally only voted for my two partners this game. Like c'mon I'm a powerwolf listener I don't do that ever.

It’d be convenient if we could get Logic’s flip a minute before EOD.

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:51
Idk i havent re read, i remember you being hard on logic but idr the details

I think i have shown i have no problems clearing you when thats how i feel

Visor going "lunch one and poison the other" on both of his partners at eod1 would be v fun if he's the last wolf.

I think Rask and Eph agreed to this. I'd normally clear them all and I do think it gives them a lot of points but it's also possible last wolf decided to omegabus into F3. Unlikely tho.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:52
You couldnt do anything else at eod

You did try opening the day with baudib/yolo pushes but it was too late

baudib/yolo/me have been his main pushes all game

all people who pushed pzelda iirc

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:52
I think I’m staying, I’m fine with a combo of ladd/Nora/Rask determining.

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:52
Idk i havent re read, i remember you being hard on logic but idr the details

I think i have shown i have no problems clearing you when thats how i feel

he wasn't "hard" on logic in the sense that idt he was really "hard" on anyone d1, but he did pounce on both cap and logic within like, their first five posts each, and i know he bussed his whole team in the other game but this would be something else lol

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:52
Visor going "lunch one and poison the other" on both of his partners at eod1 would be v fun if he's the last wolf.

I think Rask and Eph agreed to this. I'd normally clear them all and I do think it gives them a lot of points but it's also possible last wolf decided to omegabus into F3. Unlikely tho.

I decided the hellmegabus asa I joined the wc tbh

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:53
You couldnt do anything else at eod

You did try opening the day with baudib/yolo pushes but it was too late

yeah but I've literally not voted elsewhere and really didn't push elsewhere plus had both of them in my poe-ish in my initial reads post. I don't expect y'all to agree but I just don't play like this as a wolf lol.

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:53
he wasn't "hard" on logic in the sense that idt he was really "hard" on anyone d1, but he did pounce on both cap and logic within like, their first five posts each, and i know he bussed his whole team in the other game but this would be something else lol

tbf in that game, the only reason i bussed my team was because my entire team were the top 3 wagons or something iirc

i wasn't the first person pushing them, but when all three were dead meat, i had to get something out of it

noraplus
02-06-2023, 00:54
I think I’m staying, I’m fine with a combo of ladd/Nora/Rask determining.

take me out of that grouping because i don't have strong opinions lol

i lightly feel like sk's recent posts contradict his earlier "i'm fine with dying", i also think hk's plain wolfy, shrug

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:54
yeah but I've literally not voted elsewhere and really didn't push elsewhere plus had both of them in my poe-ish in my initial reads post. I don't expect y'all to agree but I just don't play like this as a wolf lol.

Thats fine

I think you played well regardless of alignment fwiw

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:54
Next up should be “welp, gl town you can win it even after you lunch me.”

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:55
take me out of that grouping because i don't have strong opinions lol

i lightly feel like sk's recent posts contradict his earlier "i'm fine with dying", i also think hk's plain wolfy, shrug

I've never been fine with dying in a single game I was only pretending you fool.

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 00:55
VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 4 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral baudib1
hollowkatt 3 noraplus Raskolnikov logic
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin

MAJ is in effect and is 7
EOD is in approx 5 minutes

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:55
Vote: hollowkatt

EnderWiggin
02-06-2023, 00:56
Vote: Silverkeith

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:56
It’s funny they they can’t even risk killing ladd tonight lmfao

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:57
Vote: Silverkeith

right in front of my salad?

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 00:57
VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 5 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral baudib1 EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 4 noraplus Raskolnikov logic SilverKeith
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 2 hollowkatt

MAJ is in effect and is 7
EOD is in approx 3 minutes

:00 good
:01 bad

baudib1
02-06-2023, 00:57
It’s funny they they can’t even risk killing ladd tonight lmfao

In B4 “why is ladd still alive” tbh

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:57
I am fine with both tbh. I just keep flipflopping.

EnderWiggin
02-06-2023, 00:58
right in front of my salad?

I am very confident HK is town. I think you're town too but I can't guarantee it as confidently.

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:58
Prob gotta grill eph a bit tomorrow

If a wolf dies here just rb whoever survives of eph/hk

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:58
I am very confident HK is town. I think you're town too but I can't guarantee it as confidently.

man

i dont get it

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:58
I am very confident HK is town. I think you're town too but I can't guarantee it as confidently.

Ftr, I still strongly believe Ender is town meta aside, even if he betrays me like this. Also don't lunch dya thx

ladd
02-06-2023, 00:59
Prob gotta grill eph a bit tomorrow

If a wolf dies here just rb whoever survives of eph/hk

Of sk/hk*

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:59
Prob gotta grill eph a bit tomorrow

If a wolf dies here just rb whoever survives of eph/hk

if a wolf dies here 100% roleblock HK, not eph

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 00:59
man

i dont get it

I actually don't get the read a ton but hk is hard to read for me tbf.

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 00:59
Prob gotta grill eph a bit tomorrow

If a wolf dies here just rb whoever survives of eph/hk

was about to post this. Never touch Dya

Visor
02-06-2023, 00:59
Of sk/hk*

oh then yes, i agree obv lol

im sticking with SK

sorry if wrong bronana

SilverKeith
02-06-2023, 01:00
oh then yes, i agree obv lol

im sticking with SK

sorry if wrong bronana

that's ok I was too stronk anyways

ladd
02-06-2023, 01:00
Glgl

noraplus
02-06-2023, 01:00
glgl

Raskolnikov
02-06-2023, 01:00
sorry if wrong bronana

Visor is outed. glgl

ladd
02-06-2023, 01:00
vote:sk

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 01:01
VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 6 Visor YOLOSWAG Ephemeral baudib1 EnderWiggin ladd
hollowkatt 4 noraplus Raskolnikov logic SilverKeith
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
baudib1 1 hollowkatt

IT IS NIGHT. A FEW MINUTES FOR CORRECTIONS

Sunbae
02-06-2023, 01:04
SilverKeith has been chopped! They were Vanilla Town!

Logic has succumbed to poison! They were Vanilla Town!



Night will end at 7pm eastern on 2/6/23.

Night actions are due at 6pm eastern on 2/6/23. Any action not sent will be randed.

nebjiamn
02-07-2023, 00:52
noraplus has been killed! They were Vanilla Town!


​It is still night

nebjiamn
02-07-2023, 00:58
Alive:
1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Hollowkatt
6. Ladd
7. Raskolnikov
8. Syn
9. Visor
10. Yoloswag




Dead:
Pzelda (Scum Firefighter, d1 chop)
Wisdom (Vanilla Town, n1 death)
Logic (Vanilla Town, d2 poison)
Silverkeith (Vanilla Town, d2 chop)
noraplus (Vanilla Town, n2 death)




Majority is in effect. With 10 players alive, Maj is 6. If Maj is reached, please stop posting and let me and sunbae know.


The day is scheduled to end 48 hours from now (7pm eastern on 2/8/23)




Day 3 has begun. Have fun!

Visor
02-07-2023, 00:59
sorry sk i am big dumb

Vote: hollowkatt

EnderWiggin
02-07-2023, 01:01
I can actually say this now, but I was spending most of my spare time on an anonymous invitational that ended like an hour ago, so I actually should have more time for this game now. (At work rn so spotty but let's go.)

HK is still probably town.

YOLOSWAG
02-07-2023, 01:02
Looks like we've got a game

YOLOSWAG
02-07-2023, 01:02
I can actually say this now, but I was spending most of my spare time on an anonymous invitational that ended like an hour ago, so I actually should have more time for this game now. (At work rn so spotty but let's go.)

HK is still probably town.REDEMPTION ARC

Visor
02-07-2023, 01:02
also lol logic you're a fuckin poisoned villager, why on earth would you make 3 posts and stop playing

just give fucking anything above a minimum level of effort jfc

baudib1
02-07-2023, 01:02
Wow where to begin.

I’m blaming myself a lot for the disaster of D2 and I’m buckling down and recalibrating all instruments and also demanding that YOLOSWAG get his ass in here to help me.

Visor
02-07-2023, 01:03
I can actually say this now, but I was spending most of my spare time on an anonymous invitational that ended like an hour ago, so I actually should have more time for this game now. (At work rn so spotty but let's go.)

HK is still probably town.

then who are the wolves

because for my money you and HK are the wolfiest people alive

YOLOSWAG
02-07-2023, 01:04
Wow where to begin.

I’m blaming myself a lot for the disaster of D2 and I’m buckling down and recalibrating all instruments and also demanding that YOLOSWAG get his ass in here to help me.Sorry, foolishly thought SK was a layup

I'm locked in

Syn
02-07-2023, 01:04
can we kill ender now please

EnderWiggin
02-07-2023, 01:04
then who are the wolves

because for my money you and HK are the wolfiest people alive

And for my money that means the POE is dead wrong and has been dead wrong.

Who was it that pinged me for "Trying to make the Wisdom kill look a certain way"?

I'm gonna say that was fucking right spec with C4.

Why are the central pillars of town all still alive?

Raskolnikov
02-07-2023, 01:05
REDEMPTION ARC

Not for you :curtain:

Vote: yoloswag

baudib1
02-07-2023, 01:05
Yeah the triumvirate of

Ender saying “kill me sans treat HK like an IC” and HK saying saying “Syn is towns and if they flip W I’ll yeet myself” is so friggin bizarre I cannot even.

Does anyone think this is in some way AI?

Visor
02-07-2023, 01:05
if the wolf team is you/hk/pzelda it makes perfect sense as to why you had that weird as fuck turnaround on d1, because it didnt fuckin matter which one you pushed, they were both wolves

so you deliberately made some weird looking posts that are designed to make you look unaligned

Syn
02-07-2023, 01:05
Why are the central pillars of town all still alive?

because of you asking this question

baudib1
02-07-2023, 01:05
can we kill ender now please

maybe

Visor
02-07-2023, 01:06
Sorry, foolishly thought SK was a layup

I'm locked in

so did I till eod tbh

it is what it is

baudib1
02-07-2023, 01:06
Sorry, foolishly thought SK was a layup

I'm locked in

thanks bub

Raskolnikov
02-07-2023, 01:07
And for my money that means the POE is dead wrong and has been dead wrong.

Who was it that pinged me for "Trying to make the Wisdom kill look a certain way"?

I'm gonna say that was fucking right spec with C4.

Why are the central pillars of town all still alive?

If its not hk/swag, they lie in Eph/Visor. That is why.

baudib1
02-07-2023, 01:07
No Logic was a layup and that?s my fault. I didn?t think there was any way we?d go 0-for-2.

EnderWiggin
02-07-2023, 01:07
because of you asking this question

So instead of killing the town who could go after me and are generally townread I've.... killed people that didn't think I was wolf?

For... ? reasons?

And then set myself up to ask "Why are town central pillars all alive"?

Ephemeral
02-07-2023, 01:07
sorry for going mia last phase bronanas

shit came up

Visor
02-07-2023, 01:08
logic giving up as a poisoned villager is ridiculous and i am not happy that is how he decided to play that

Ephemeral
02-07-2023, 01:08
And for my money that means the POE is dead wrong and has been dead wrong.

Who was it that pinged me for "Trying to make the Wisdom kill look a certain way"?

I'm gonna say that was fucking right spec with C4.

Why are the central pillars of town all still alive?

huh