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[Raskolnikov]

eh, i got nothing from the catchup wall

the baudib susp was a little interesting i guess

f u. each time I wanna tinfoil, there is a mindmeld

[Ephemeral]

https://i.imgur.com/Tfv3d8Y.png

~:grouphug:

[Syn]

HK/Logic/Pzelda seems too obvious tbh.

weak trio brah

[Syn]

I'm feeling a bit sick today, so not sure how active I can be (which is too bad since this was the part of today I was supposed to be active on). I saw the wagons, can't really read Cape (which is pzelda, right?) but if y'all think he's wolfing then go for it.

love u kiss kiss

[Raskolnikov]

Ephe, HK and I have the highest wolf rand rate of the entire universe (itsreal.gif). So u can guess what rand we get when we decide to hydra lol.

[Syn]

Ephe, HK and I have the highest wolf rand rate of the entire universe (itsreal.gif). So u can guess what rand we get when we decide to hydra lol.

>rand retirement home

[Visor]

dya's posts generally make me feel nothing

but them refusing to v read me actually feels pretty on brand sadly

i need to reread over dya actually

problem for future nl

[Visor]

im still giggling over logic going 'visor is thanking posts.... hmmmmm'

hmmmmmmmmmm indeed my friend, hmmmmm indeed

[Raskolnikov]

weak trio brah

I know pal. This is way I keep posting what's going in my tiny head.

Which one(s) would you remove? Articulate a read for me pls. (glglgl me)

[Ephemeral]

Ephe, HK and I have the highest wolf rand rate of the entire universe (itsreal.gif). So u can guess what rand we get when we decide to hydra lol.

the curse of modbot: hydra chronicles

[Syn]

I know pal. This is way I keep posting what's going in my tiny head.

Which one(s) would you remove? Articulate a read for me pls. (glglgl me)

je supprimerais hollowkatt. il est amusant et tres chaud

[Visor]

Visor the latest mash I?m rereleasing is Baldur?s Gate. I don?t remember we but I?m reading you V early on, and I know we stomped the wilfs that game. lolCDL

baldurs gate goat

that was some of the most fun ive had in a mash

just a quality stomp

"No one has died."

[Syn]

je supprimerais hollowkatt. il est amusant et tres chaud

unless his game has cratered in the last year, "polarize and dip" isn't his wolfing tactic. polarize, yes, but not the dipping

[Visor]

je supprimerais hollowkatt. il est amusant et tres chaud

sacred blue

[Raskolnikov]

lol I just noticed Visor changed his title too.

Him trying to post in French is a tell. Go get him folks.

[Syn]

unless his game has cratered in the last year, "polarize and dip" isn't his wolfing tactic. polarize, yes, but not the dipping

follow-up thot: setting himself up for a lazy D2 chop like this doesn't make sense unless maybe he has strong teammates with good thread/town presence who can use the "we got 'em" cred to coast to endgame

but afaik this did not exist when he fell on a sword for me, since people gave me a hard time during shitposting season and not after

it just feels, shall we say, boring

[Syn]

sleep time bye

frozen etc etc

[Raskolnikov]

follow-up thot: setting himself up for a lazy D2 chop like this doesn't make sense unless maybe he has strong teammates with good thread/town presence who can use the "we got 'em" cred to coast to endgame

but afaik this did not exist when he fell on a sword for me, since people gave me a hard time during shitposting season and not after

it just feels, shall we say, boring

part of my reasoning to downgrade Ender to null actually.

Look at me townreading Syn :curtain:

[Ephemeral]

i need to reread over dya actually

problem for future nl

they just aren't in readable range for me personally

so ya future problem /shrug

[Ephemeral]

yolo's recent posts were also good, fine with finally letting him in the list

nl and I have been on the same page long enough that I want to call him villa

ladd could still be a wolf, but I think he reached the no touch d1 zone at least

[ladd]

dunno if ill be around for eod and a little worried havent seen pzelda pop back insince the first salvo but fine with either dying

Worried in which sense?

[Ephemeral]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154761-Casual-december-game

and fwiw, I nailed him in that game but i was main pack wolf. I feel like he's already admitted that he is acting the same here.

he'll probably omgus me for pushing him

Through the first page of hk's iso in that game he already feels different from how he does here afaict?

also he was a lone wolf and he apparently said it himself that he played "like a villa siding SK", which makes me unsure of how I should parse all of that as a whole tbh

[YOLOSWAG]

Wolfy entrance from SK unfortunately, into the POE

[Ephemeral]

in fact hk actually looks villagerier overall in the casual december iso than he does this game, at least in the early parts of it

interesting dichotomy lol

[ladd]

Ladd being noncommittal on me/Visor/dya is either V!Ladd not wanting to lock us in out of respect for our wolf game (although I?m surprised that he didn?t articulate that exact reason)
Or
W!Ladd trying to set up a thing where he can feel comfortable saying that there?s always 1 wolf in the 3 of us on future days.

Pretty weird fmpov as I think I?ve been easily the most aggressively pro-town player so far.

not to make too big a deal if it, because mostly I think that Ladd post was fine.

Its really neither - for you and visor i have seen your posts but not really processed them in an ai way. Fwiw id say you are the most likely villa

For dya they just havent done enough

[Visor]

Worried in which sense?

Worried that he's a villa who had a shit entrance and then got busy or something idk

I always like to read people on their second entry in thread so I don't fall prey to knee jerk reactions

[ladd]

Worried that he's a villa who had a shit entrance and then got busy or something idk

I always like to read people on their second entry in thread so I don't fall prey to knee jerk reactions

Thats what i thought

This post is so similar to the one you made last game on c4 that i almost find it suspicious

:curtain:

[Visor]

I don't really care that ladd has no opinion on my posts fwiw

I find some games people just have nothing to say about my extremely posts

[ladd]

Through the first page of hk's iso in that game he already feels different from how he does here afaict?

also he was a lone wolf and he apparently said it himself that he played "like a villa siding SK", which makes me unsure of how I should parse all of that as a whole tbh

I think i missed that dya post. Probabbly villa post from them tbh


I dont think its worth reading hk last game. Lone wolves are a terrible example of meta

[Visor]

Thats what i thought

This post is so similar to the one you made last game on c4 that i almost find it suspicious

:curtain:

It's pretty much a carbon copy lol

I hope it turns out the same way

[Visor]

I don't really care that ladd has no opinion on my posts fwiw

I find some games people just have nothing to say about my extremely posts

*Sexy stupid phone

[ladd]

It's pretty much a carbon copy lol

I hope it turns out the same way

Game feels that way but who knows

Fwiw i dont think sk wall was villagery but obv gotta wait for him to explain his reads to really judge

[Visor]

Game feels that way but who knows

Fwiw i dont think sk wall was villagery but obv gotta wait for him to explain his reads to really judge

Agreed

What'd you think of logics posts

[ladd]

I am still chuckling at logic's post on visor thanking lol

Idk why i find it so funny

[ladd]

Agreed

What'd you think of logics posts

Obv not good but gonna reserve judgment

[Ephemeral]

I think i missed that dya post. Probabbly villa post from them tbh


I dont think its worth reading hk last game. Lone wolves are a terrible example of meta

ya I can't find a way to parse it beyond running myself into wifom circles so I'll just drop that ig

[Ephemeral]

It's pretty much a carbon copy lol

I hope it turns out the same way

if it does and logic is a wolf again it'd be kind of poetic

[Visor]

If logic is a wolf c4 prob a villa :curtain:

[Visor]

EnderWiggin

You got any non pzelda or hkatt thoughts

[Visor]

I will say if this game does turn out to have something like logic/pzelda/hkatt/ender as even 2/4 wolves I will be pretty disappointed

[baudib1]

I will say if this game does turn out to have something like logic/pzelda/hkatt/ender as even 2/4 wolves I will be pretty disappointed

Yeah I want some spicy wilfs

[Wisdom]

follow-up thot: setting himself up for a lazy D2 chop like this doesn't make sense unless maybe he has strong teammates with good thread/town presence who can use the "we got 'em" cred to coast to endgame

but afaik this did not exist when he fell on a sword for me, since people gave me a hard time during shitposting season and not after

it just feels, shall we say, boring

Towniest post I've seen this game!:3

[pzelda]

by that I mean, is there more than what you posted earlier ("same reaction to Syn's entrance")?

That was most of it. Kind of a weak read just to get things started.

[pzelda]

I went to bed at 7 am and I'm still kind of dead in my head...but I'll try to produce something, before going to a bar again.

[pzelda]

thats fair enuf. what I find kinda hard to come understand as something you believe is

1)



te bolded above. saying syn is solidly in their town play after their first 2 posts seems wtf to me


2)



the confidence in this post is just..weird




pzelda

and now i am gonna make a wolfy vote on a wolf i have never talked about :curtain:

Fair enough.
But I would give some credit to HK for being balls to the wall with that read.

[EnderWiggin]

He is definatly a good wolf (I forgot about champ D1 too, even the bet I won tx to it), so there is that.

If we're being honest, there's not much that isn't in my wolf range lol.

[EnderWiggin]

This feels like a made-up read. Like what.

Idk chief, it's worked for me enough times in other games that I use it as a read. Dunno what else to say to you.

[pzelda]

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

[EnderWiggin]

my strongest reads haven't really changed, rask and wisdom are town and ladd probably is

eph and yolo generally feel like they line up with villagers taking it easy but trying to be helpful, probably not the best reads but

Can you talk me through the bolded name?

That's the one name on your list that hasn't felt villagery at all to me yet.

[EnderWiggin]

Agree

I thought he was p villagery honestly

Hk posts keep being rough, idrc for the "dumbtell"

I think I'm probably going to townread this for dumb reasons.

[EnderWiggin]

yolo town

Agree

[EnderWiggin]

I'm doing little this game, but I wanna V-read ender for "logic has 2 posts and zero content."

Wasn't me bruv

[EnderWiggin]

ZERO content on page 1 and I'm on 80ppp.

C'mon guys! We have a postcap and this is how you start the game?

We...

Don't have a postcap?

Wuh?

[EnderWiggin]

Currently catching up but I'll go to sleep in a bit so I won't elaborate about anything until later. I refuse to explain anything y'all just have to trust me.

Catch up I guess.

Hk/Baudib. Some stuff I've not liked from both. Not w/w.
It's hard to read some ppl in the first few pages mostly bc of a joke-ish tone. Not that I dislike it.

I liked Wisdom entrance even if they didn't really say anything. I think the spoilered comment is townie. I think Syn is like a bit >rand v also.

I've been enjoying some of raskolnikov posts, I'd townlean him for tone alone here.

I'm townlocking and never rescinding Eph on #169 alone. I'm only partially joking. Idk how to explain it, just don't think wolves often post stuff like that (as in, "was this the guy who x? if so, town") at least not to townread people. I guess I could see it as a weird w/w post but nah.

Not vibing with Yolo.

Randomly townlocking dya for their opening. I'm just quirky like that haha. This feels both correct and a bad play.

I've gone back to the interaction and confbiased myself into believing that Yolo is a wolf alongside Baudi.

I agreed with Ladd reads. I think he's town. Or at least he should be correct. Specifically him randomly buying Dya's first post. Makes me want to townread dya but less jokingly. I've decided Ladd is town.

wtf YOLO talked about that too I thought me townreading dya off a post would be fun now it just looks like I faked a mindmeld or some shit.

Baudi randomly changing his vote to syn is sure... something. Kinda effs with my earlier beliefs.

Not sure if I dig wisdom randomly calling ladd a wolf even if it's a joke.

I think C4 is okay. I decided to trust Eph initial read on them.

Ok so I've read half of the game which is enough for me to solve.

I think Baudi/Yolo are wolves. Maybe Visor is a wolf, unsure why, just think it'd make for a nice team.

Maybe HK is a wolf which would be interesting bc makes all the three ppl I meantioned early more townie... prolly. prolly?

I've no opinion on Logic. I think Pzelda is definitely a bit weird in their posting, but idk if the way they post is AI.

Everyone I've not mentioned I'm currently ok with.

Imagine my vote is on baudi here. Will vote later after finishing reading the game. Tho ppl townreading baudi makes me feel I might just be wrong on him since I've got no meta on him despite him being around I guess.

I definitely scumread this entrance lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

unless his game has cratered in the last year, "polarize and dip" isn't his wolfing tactic. polarize, yes, but not the dipping

Not usually in his towngame either lol

[EnderWiggin]

follow-up thot: setting himself up for a lazy D2 chop like this doesn't make sense unless maybe he has strong teammates with good thread/town presence who can use the "we got 'em" cred to coast to endgame

but afaik this did not exist when he fell on a sword for me, since people gave me a hard time during shitposting season and not after

it just feels, shall we say, boring

There's also just the chance that it wasn't planned at all and he got caught with his pants down and now isn't sure how to recover.

I have seen HK do that before.

Like "I don't see the reason for him doing it" when it was a pressure progression on him doesn't make sense to me.

Wolves don't plan to be pushed.

[Logic]

noraplus
I had read the page I first appeared on, read page 1 and complained, and started reading page 2 when my wife was annoyed I was lying in bed with the light on and not reading my book.

baudib1 I'll be sure to give you credit for what I thought was ender.

Visor I'm used to rules disallowing thanking of posts midgame. Rules I thought you would assume is normal. Thanking posts midgame when it's not expressly disallowed feels a tad pockety.

[EnderWiggin]

EnderWiggin

You got any non pzelda or hkatt thoughts

I've had several.

And many of them existed before HK/PZ things happened anyway.

[EnderWiggin]

Towniest post I've seen this game!:3

No appreciation for Raskol.

[EnderWiggin]

Fair enough.
But I would give some credit to HK for being balls to the wall with that read.

Have you played with HK before?

[EnderWiggin]

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

Is your only ability to find wolves through how they push you?

Who do you think are wolves who didn't push you, and why? And how do they work with the people who did push you?

[EnderWiggin]

My reads are somewhere in the mess and it's past 2am so I'm gonna crash, poke with specific questions as you need.

[Logic]

Is your only ability to find wolves through how they push you?

Who do you think are wolves who didn't push you, and why? And how do they work with the people who did push you?

Finding wolves through how they push you is an underrated skill.
Eh, Visor?

[Logic]

So we're still missing
Dya
Ender
SK
Logic

Noted
Logic come here we're supposed to be masons!!!

I promise, I'm here to mason now.
Wisdom

[Wisdom]

I promise, I'm here to mason now.
Wisdom

Goodie goodie!

[hollowkatt]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154761-Casual-december-game

and fwiw, I nailed him in that game but i was main pack wolf. I feel like he's already admitted that he is acting the same here.

he'll probably omgus me for pushing him

Picture HK leaning back in his chair mulling this post around in his mind:

Hmm, faint undertones of suspicion and paranoia coupled with a full body of self-importance all combined with the subtle bloom of wanting to be right.

Dya is town.

[hollowkatt]

hollowkatt

https://media1.giphy.com/media/XDY7T4JQJ8M5p3hA6n/giphy.gif

His baseline is to be dry, acerbic, and rather unenthusiastic about existing. Oh wait that's his IRL baseline it just happens to coincide with his mafia playing baseline. Wolf Syn wants to be ingratiated into the game moreso than town Syn does. Town Syn generally doesn't give a flying fuck about anything, wants to make the posts he wants to make, and isn't looking to advance any kind of agenda, just wreck wolves.

It's probably not smart to town read Syn off of his extremely early game posts but I did it anyways and I'm happy with his posting afterwards as well.

As far as holistic thoughts about the game:

I have vastly more town reads than wolf reads. I like, for town:

you, dya, raskol, Visor, noraplus, and wisdom.
Yolo maybe.

Everyone else is some flavor of "idc/don't have a read/could be wolf" and I'm ok with that. Except Ender, I think he's furry.

I think, specifically about dya, that they're reacting hard to how I played the last game here. I was lost wolf, played it completely straight (as if I were town), helped chop two of the three members of the wolf team, then won in F3. Dya recognizing the similarities is good but arrived at the wrong conclusion. The only reason that play style worked is I had no idea who the wolf team was so I could hunt wolves as town does. Once the last pack wolf was dead I had to survive two days. We got Boq on D6 and F3 was me, Ender, and Monty. I had ender pocketed and basically voted monty and peaced out of the thread. Ender never wavered (in thread anyways) on me being town so the game was done.

I think Dya arrives at that conclusion rather naturally and is concerned that I'm using the same type of tactics/strategy in this game. The problem is that there's no lost wolf who's anti town but also uninformed. That's the only reason I was able to get the win. I "correctly" sused out Dya and got them chopped and then "correctly" voted Kagemusha to get them chopped as the last pack wolf. Then I inherited the NK and went from there.

[hollowkatt]

Is this a general sentiment of being wronged by the village or shading of me? Or are you saying wolves are pushing you?

I remember you being pretty solvey as town, you seem to have shut down here after some early pressure, sup

neither, both, not sure basically. I wanted to throw that out there for some thoughts to chew on. Didn't really see anyone other than you respond to it but I'm still doing catch up.

I am finding myself getting less and less solvy on D1 and more and more "lets get through today, see who's chopped/nk'd and then start digging in"
Maybe that's wrongo dongo but I kinda like it.

I do have thoughts on the game I've posted today so maybe that's something you can dig into

[hollowkatt]

This game is thin as hell and I'm fine with the direction/consensus of the game (namely think pzelda is a good D1 regardless of alignment and that the villagery people are correctly being villa read), I'm not doing much cuz there ain't much to do

But if you want my take(s) on something specific hmu

what makes pzelda a good d1 regardless of alignment? my experience with them is they're solid and almost never a liability.

[hollowkatt]

LMAO

I'ma be real I don't usually see wolves this brazen with 180s but I'm scared to V-read it 💀

of all of them this is the least bad

Also, I actually thought pzelda had posted some before the sus hits them but Rask was onto it immediately and Visor not long after.

Hm.

Like that's a pretty good post regardless of enders alignment.

[hollowkatt]

My werewolf super power is remembering the wolves everyone else is ignoring so I?ll point out they Logic has roughly two posts and zero content.

shh that's my secret cfd target

[hollowkatt]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Syn 1 baudib1
Ladd 1 Wisdom
dyachei 1 Syn
Raskol 1 hollowkatt


I believe this is correct.

EOD in approx 18hr, 40min

I thought I was voting ender but realized formatting was wrong.
vote: enderwiggin

[hollowkatt]

yolo/eph occupy a similar headspace for how they are playing but i think yolo is more tangibly villagery than eph (tho i havent played with eph in a while)

ender seems messy in a villagery way, his thought process was weird but believable to me. prob villa imo

every hk pop in it feels like he is just struggling to produce good content after the bad start

zelda wolf

c4 has reached lock clear levels to me. rask was already there


idr have much on a read on the visor/baudib/dya triumvirate. if i wanted to yolo it i'd say they are all villas but it'd be p lazy

syn kinda seems like someone who will eventually be cleared by spew

dont have much of a read on wisdom either


think thats all. i made myself more readable than othe rplayers so i'll count this as a win. ill be back for eod

why is pzelda a wagon? cliffs is fine

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
EnderWiggin 2 Syn hollowkatt
Ladd 2 Wisdom pzelda
Logic 1 baudib1



I believe this is correct

Eod in approx 6 hours

[Syn]

There's also just the chance that it wasn't planned at all and he got caught with his pants down and now isn't sure how to recover.

I have seen HK do that before.

Like "I don't see the reason for him doing it" when it was a pressure progression on him doesn't make sense to me.

Wolves don't plan to be pushed.

didn't he offer his spirited defense of me totally unprompted

in fact, wasn't that one of the reasons for scum-reading him

[Syn]

Towniest post I've seen this game!:3

I'm pocketed

[dyachei]

I think i missed that dya post. Probabbly villa post from them tbh


I dont think its worth reading hk last game. Lone wolves are a terrible example of meta

My issue with HK isn't that HK is playing the exact same way. The way he's making reads are the same. That's an issue even in a lost wolf game because it doesn't feel like he's actual investigating what people are, he's kind of making it/doing what he thinks will look good

[dyachei]

think baudib probably town this game. Think he's actively solving, trying to figure things out. Feels pretty natural

[dyachei]

rask prob v as well but I'm not sure I can articulate why

[ladd]

why is pzelda a wagon? cliffs is fine

seems to be posting like a struggly wolf to me and i have bought ~none of the reads they posted

i have a tendency to villa read peole who push me but even his last post with vote on me seems shallow at best

[ladd]

I thought I was voting ender but realized formatting was wrong.
vote: enderwiggin

can you explain why you think ender is a wolf?

aso got any thoughts on baudib? part of my problem with your start is also that it felt you just went on a refuge in audacity on baudib instead of trying to sort if he was a wolf pushing someone you strongly villa read

[ladd]

did logic really rand wolf again
Logic tell me it ain't so

[ladd]

did logic really rand wolf again
Logic tell me it ain't so

i absolutely despite the fact that i didnt separate these 2 paragraphs

a crime against formatting

[dyachei]

did logic really rand wolf again
Logic tell me it ain't so

why do you think he has?

[ladd]

why do you think he has?

his posts arent good. i wish he posted more but what he has done so far is not really inspiring me

i mostly just want to poke him for now tho

[ladd]

anyway here is where i am at


~100% villas
ladd
rask
noraplus

leaning villa
dya
yolo
ender
baudib
Syn

the rest
eph - problem is more on my end than theirs. i think i just don't remember v well how they play as both alignments so i am reading their posts and mostly nodding along but don't process them in an ai way

visor - he has too many posts to be a villager. outed (jokes aside, i do have some concerns over his posting but if zelda is a wolf i think he is a villager anyway)

SK - gotta see what he posts. he is p much true null

HK - already talked about

zelda- as above

logic - not a great start chief

wisdom - don't really have many thoughts on their posts tbh


nothing is ordered. EoD is 1 am so my presence is in strong question but i'll be back before then for sure

[ladd]

i re read wisdom iso cause not having a read there felt weird and i like them. guess i could move them up

leaves me with a pretty boring list tho


oh well

[Logic]

i absolutely despite the fact that i didnt separate these 2 paragraphs

a crime against formatting

You say that I don't have good posts and then complain that you gave a "bad" post.
Smh
ladd I expect better poking than this

[Logic]

shh that's my secret cfd target

D1 me, you coward.

[Ephemeral]

His baseline is to be dry, acerbic, and rather unenthusiastic about existing. Oh wait that's his IRL baseline it just happens to coincide with his mafia playing baseline. Wolf Syn wants to be ingratiated into the game moreso than town Syn does. Town Syn generally doesn't give a flying fuck about anything, wants to make the posts he wants to make, and isn't looking to advance any kind of agenda, just wreck wolves.

It's probably not smart to town read Syn off of his extremely early game posts but I did it anyways and I'm happy with his posting afterwards as well.

As far as holistic thoughts about the game:

I have vastly more town reads than wolf reads. I like, for town:

you, dya, raskol, Visor, noraplus, and wisdom.
Yolo maybe.

Everyone else is some flavor of "idc/don't have a read/could be wolf" and I'm ok with that. Except Ender, I think he's furry.

I think, specifically about dya, that they're reacting hard to how I played the last game here. I was lost wolf, played it completely straight (as if I were town), helped chop two of the three members of the wolf team, then won in F3. Dya recognizing the similarities is good but arrived at the wrong conclusion. The only reason that play style worked is I had no idea who the wolf team was so I could hunt wolves as town does. Once the last pack wolf was dead I had to survive two days. We got Boq on D6 and F3 was me, Ender, and Monty. I had ender pocketed and basically voted monty and peaced out of the thread. Ender never wavered (in thread anyways) on me being town so the game was done.

I think Dya arrives at that conclusion rather naturally and is concerned that I'm using the same type of tactics/strategy in this game. The problem is that there's no lost wolf who's anti town but also uninformed. That's the only reason I was able to get the win. I "correctly" sused out Dya and got them chopped and then "correctly" voted Kagemusha to get them chopped as the last pack wolf. Then I inherited the NK and went from there.

appreciate the response bud

I don't have an issue with your dya read, the thought process seems reasonable given the context of last game(though whether I agree with the conclusion is still up in the air)

But I would like you to elaborate on Ender, I'm not seeing nearly as much depth there vs your dya read

you called him out earlier saying he should "know better", but you yourself said that you're playing similarly to the previous game where you completely pocketed the guy and practically demolished him yes?

what's making him a wolf instead of a potential villager who's aggressively paranoid of you after that game for example?

[Logic]

why do you think he has?

Dya looks good on this page except for this single post.

If there are more questions in their ISO like this, I'll wolf lean them.

[Ephemeral]

Dya looks good on this page except for this single post.

If there are more questions in their ISO like this, I'll wolf lean them.

what's the issue with it?

[Logic]

what's the issue with it?

It's a Dya specific thing.

Scum Dya is more likely to ask short questions that she doesn't actually care about the answer to. This is a candidate for one of those questions.

[Logic]

It's a Dya specific thing.

Scum Dya is more likely to ask short questions that they doesn't actually care about the answer to. This is a candidate for one of those questions.

Sorry Dya

[dyachei]

I very much cared about the answer to this question

[Logic]

I very much cared about the answer to this question

Any chance you would care to share what the response gleaned for you?

[dyachei]

Any chance you would care to share what the response gleaned for you?

not much sadly. I wanted more of description of why you were wolfy, what would make you less wolfy, etc

i didnt get it

[Logic]

is noraplus an alt?


did...i imagine seeing c4 post in the thread on their main?

two instances of Dya (potentially) asking questions that are wolfy for them

Potentially is in parentheses because this could just be a lack of follow-up.

FTR: this now makes Dya my closest thing to a scum read, but it's flimsy and I refuse to sort on that little.

[noraplus]

I'm feeling a bit sick today, so not sure how active I can be (which is too bad since this was the part of today I was supposed to be active on). I saw the wagons, can't really read Cape (which is pzelda, right?) but if y'all think he's wolfing then go for it.

(he's capage not cape lol)

[Ephemeral]

two instances of Dya (potentially) asking questions that are wolfy for them

Potentially is in parentheses because this could just be a lack of follow-up.

FTR: this now makes Dya my closest thing to a scum read, but it's flimsy and I refuse to sort on that little.

what would signify "caring" for the response to a simple alt-related question lol

[Ephemeral]

like I get the previous bit w/r/t their question to ladd sure

but those two posts are definitely a reach

[dyachei]

two instances of Dya (potentially) asking questions that are wolfy for them

Potentially is in parentheses because this could just be a lack of follow-up.

FTR: this now makes Dya my closest thing to a scum read, but it's flimsy and I refuse to sort on that little.

why would I follow up when the answer was yes, c4 posted on his main?

[Logic]

I like these reads and that they're not based on meta. There is some meta included, but it is site meta, if I understand it correctly. They're the first takes in this game I have some inclination to sheep and that makes me v lean Yolo.

Also, regarding my earlier clash with Rask, I reread it and on the second look he just looks like having fun and I v?s the one overreacting. I guess I will need to see more before making a proper take.

Town leans: HK, Yolo
Null: Everyone else

I'm not loving pzelda (shocker) and this post is probably the most substantive post in the ISO.

Between coffee tell and later posts that look like promising more content but also excusing himself for maybe not giving it, I don't have confidence in a town here. Considering I almost always V-read pzelda, this is tantamount to a wolf-read by default.

[dyachei]

I'm not loving pzelda (shocker) and this post is probably the most substantive post in the ISO.

Between coffee tell and later posts that look like promising more content but also excusing himself for maybe not giving it, I don't have confidence in a town here. Considering I almost always V-read pzelda, this is tantamount to a wolf-read by default.

do you really think the coffee tell is a serious tell?

[Logic]

why would I follow up when the answer was yes, c4 posted on his main?

I would assume that the follow-up would include something else; a read, an acknowledgement, etc. That's more on brand for villa-you. Even something like that.

Like I said earlier, it's a reach (and there is one more question in your ISO that you asked, but you also followed up on)

Just the three I highlighted stand out as "not normal" for v-dya.

[noraplus]

Can you talk me through the bolded name?

That's the one name on your list that hasn't felt villagery at all to me yet.

imma just plagiarize myself since they haven't done a ton since my last read on them


it's a bit tough to explain beyond: their solving is real? like i know they make some outlandish reads sometimes, but i feel like i can generally see where they come from, and it feels like they're flying on really specific gut urges that would be hard for a wolf to make up

like when they said "baudib's bad syn push made me biased toward syn v", that's maybe something a wolf would come up with specifically to pocket syn but i doubt it lol, i just think it's a really weird thought to have with tmi, and it lines up with the timing of their initial reads on syn and baudib too

[Logic]

do you really think the coffee tell is a serious tell?

For some people, it is.
I wouldn't rely on it, but I do take it as a data point for someone to try and excuse a bad read or lack of reads on it.

[noraplus]

noraplus
I had read the page I first appeared on, read page 1 and complained, and started reading page 2 when my wife was annoyed I was lying in bed with the light on and not reading my book.

:2thumbsup:

[dyachei]

I would assume that the follow-up would include something else; a read, an acknowledgement, etc. That's more on brand for villa-you. Even something like that.

Like I said earlier, it's a reach (and there is one more question in your ISO that you asked, but you also followed up on)

Just the three I highlighted stand out as "not normal" for v-dya.

that's not really a thing. sorry to tell you that the meta you're using for me is wrong

[dyachei]

that's not really a thing. sorry to tell you that the meta you're using for me is wrong

and like the first question? the 2nd question was me following up on it...

man i hate this whole line of reasoning from you

[noraplus]

shh that's my secret cfd target

is it too hopeful to think this is so out of nowhere it might be w/w lol

[noraplus]

But I would like you to elaborate on Ender, I'm not seeing nearly as much depth there vs your dya read

you called him out earlier saying he should "know better", but you yourself said that you're playing similarly to the previous game where you completely pocketed the guy and practically demolished him yes?

what's making him a wolf instead of a potential villager who's aggressively paranoid of you after that game for example?

(i thought the "know better" part was about ender saying the cap wagon was wolf-motivated, not about ender wolf reading him)

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
EnderWiggin 2 Syn hollowkatt
Ladd 2 Wisdom pzelda
Logic 1 baudib1



Think this is correct.

EOD in approx 2 hours.

:00 good
:01 bad

[noraplus]

i think dya's recent posts are pretty good but i'll have ladd spot check me on that

[ladd]

i think dya's recent posts are pretty good but i'll have ladd spot check me on that

Ya i think they are super likely just a villager

[Ephemeral]

is it too hopeful to think this is so out of nowhere it might be w/w lol

https://media.tenor.com/C3lhE73FgLoAAAAM/it-could-be-it-possible.gif

[Visor]

noraplus
I had read the page I first appeared on, read page 1 and complained, and started reading page 2 when my wife was annoyed I was lying in bed with the light on and not reading my book.

baudib1 I'll be sure to give you credit for what I thought was ender.

Visor I'm used to rules disallowing thanking of posts midgame. Rules I thought you would assume is normal. Thanking posts midgame when it's not expressly disallowed feels a tad pockety.

didja read the op?

also - i wasn't the only person to thank posts that you would've read, whyd you single me out there over others, out of curiosity?

[ladd]

I am already starting to fall asleep

Chances of me being awake dor eod arent great

Who d y all prefer to lunch between zelda/hk?

[Visor]

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

man he really did just make 4 posts, vote ladd and dip

im not sure ive seen capage play this..... wolfy? before lol, but he's gotta die

[Ephemeral]

(i thought the "know better" part was about ender saying the cap wagon was wolf-motivated, not about ender wolf reading him)

uhh, it could be, just doublechecked and i might've misread the context

my question still stands tho, his read on ender feels p empty

[Visor]

I am already starting to fall asleep

Chances of me being awake dor eod arent great

Who d y all prefer to lunch between zelda/hk?

zelda, hkatt made a half decent post above re dya and zelds reentry was just a token effort

if we're wrong i'm not gonna be able to get there (and am frankly too tired to think through things rn anyway)

[noraplus]

I am already starting to fall asleep

Chances of me being awake dor eod arent great

Who d y all prefer to lunch between zelda/hk?

recency bias kinda says cap

they both look really rough and i wouldn't cry for either

and i am le tired

[YOLOSWAG]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
EnderWiggin 2 Syn hollowkatt
Ladd 2 Wisdom pzelda
Logic 1 baudib1



Think this is correct.

EOD in approx 2 hours.

:00 good
:01 badPerhaps the most swagged out wagon of all time.

[Ephemeral]

I am already starting to fall asleep

Chances of me being awake dor eod arent great

Who d y all prefer to lunch between zelda/hk?

prolly zelda atp

by comparison hkatt looks a bit better but there are still big ? left

[Syn]

chopping pzelda is so lame

[Visor]

if zelda flips wolf i might punt logic into the sun tbh lol

[Ephemeral]

I went back and skimmed logic's recent wolf game on mu and I think his posts there actually look better on average than his posts here

lol

what does it mean bronanas

[noraplus]

I went back and skimmed logic's recent wolf game on mu and I think his posts there actually look better on average than his posts here

lol

what does it mean bronanas

it means he's taking it easy this game regardless of alignment because this is a casual game

but it also prob means he's a wolf lol

[ladd]

This is the part of the game where we all think we have the game solved


See you in f3

:curtain:

[noraplus]

This is the part of the game where we all think we have the game solved


See you in f3

:curtain:

really just tmiing that wolves won't kill you before f3 like that

[hollowkatt]

D1 me, you coward.

vote: logic

ok

[ladd]

really just tmiing that wolves won't kill you before f3 like that

It depends on what zelda flips


If he is a wolf ill prob be ded by d3

If he is a villager i am gonna have a rough d2 lmao

[Ephemeral]

it means he's taking it easy this game regardless of alignment because this is a casual game

but it also prob means he's a wolf lol

https://media.tenor.com/rchQHaaWfHMAAAAC/noted-critmaw.gif

[ladd]

Alrighty i am going to sleep

Adieu

[noraplus]

i already feel like no matter what cap flips i'm gonna be right back at hk/logic tomorrow

which probably isn't healthy but i mean, lolhk lollogic

[hollowkatt]

can you explain why you think ender is a wolf?

aso got any thoughts on baudib? part of my problem with your start is also that it felt you just went on a refuge in audacity on baudib instead of trying to sort if he was a wolf pushing someone you strongly villa read

I thought Rask had a decent point when he said Ender was going out of his way to prevent pzelda from being a "thing", made a post in response to rask and dropped the vote on Ender. Ender is "fine" but "fine" Ender has high potential to be wolfEnder. I find Town Ender to be more aggro/more interested in making his pushes last or go somewhere legit but here he is being vocal and calling things out but doesn't seem to care about driving anything to any kind of conclusion.

baudib is meh to me. They latched onto "hk is weird" early and tried to ride me for that for a while and it's fine. I don't think he had bad intentions pushing me. That's probably the most charitable thing I can say atm.

[hollowkatt]

appreciate the response bud

I don't have an issue with your dya read, the thought process seems reasonable given the context of last game(though whether I agree with the conclusion is still up in the air)

But I would like you to elaborate on Ender, I'm not seeing nearly as much depth there vs your dya read

you called him out earlier saying he should "know better", but you yourself said that you're playing similarly to the previous game where you completely pocketed the guy and practically demolished him yes?

what's making him a wolf instead of a potential villager who's aggressively paranoid of you after that game for example?

Because the only reason that worked last time is Lost Wolf. If I were pack wolf I'd have been informed, my posts would have looked informed, and I would have had to avoid spew and being spewed. This game being "similar" or even the same as that game would indicate town more than anything else as what I did there doesn't work if I'm not uninformed and unknown to the pack.

[noraplus]

i liked syn's posts about hk

[hollowkatt]

voting ladd is badd

[baudib1]

How much time left in day?

[Ephemeral]

How much time left in day?

1 hour and a half ish

[Visor]

hour half

[noraplus]

if zelda flips wolf i might punt logic into the sun tbh lol

how different would it be if he flips v btw

[Visor]

how different would it be if he flips v btw

minorly different - logic is a busser and his push on zelda just makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmm (:curtain:)

[Ephemeral]

minorly different - logic is a busser and his push on zelda just makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmm (:curtain:)

j'accuse

:curtain"

[pzelda]

I went back and skimmed logic's recent wolf game on mu and I think his posts there actually look better on average than his posts here

lol

what does it mean bronanas

What about his most recent town game? Checking only the wolf game feels biased af.
Not that I tr or sr Logic, It's difficult to spit out a conclusion with posts like that.

[noraplus]

j'accuse

:curtain"

ngl when i saw the curtain between the italicized parentheses in that quote, i was confused about why the curtain wasn't italicized too for a moment

[noraplus]

that was one of the popins of all time

[Ephemeral]

ngl when i saw the curtain between the italicized parentheses in that quote, i was confused about why the curtain wasn't italicized too for a moment

damned be my slippery fingers on a keyboard with red switches

[pzelda]

voting ladd is badd

Why?

[baudib1]

Make logic a 2nd wagon.

[Visor]

zelda where are you at on top 3 wolf and villa reads

you're about to be toast so uh, nows the time bud

[Ephemeral]

What about his most recent town game? Checking only the wolf game feels biased af.
Not that I tr or sr Logic, It's difficult to spit out a conclusion with posts like that.

i didn't feel like visiting the grand library of logic games and checking out all of the exhibits so i picked out the most recent one i could think of

simple

[pzelda]

I don't think that anything I've seen from Ladd makes them town. I admit, the list with so many towns would be a bold choice for a wolf. Also, Ladd probably isn't a viable wagon and I feel like I'm not in a position to convince you.

Unvote: Ladd
Vote: Silverkeith

Keith has no interactions with other players, just a list, which is bad at best.

[noraplus]

...lol

[pzelda]

zelda where are you at on top 3 wolf and villa reads

you're about to be toast so uh, nows the time bud

Rask, HK, Yolo for villas

Ladd, Keith, Logic for wolves

Wolves were more difficult to assemble. I don't think anyone in particular is extremely Wolfy, but some players look more stuff or struggle to interact imho.

[baudib1]

I don't think that anything I've seen from Ladd makes them town. I admit, the list with so many towns would be a bold choice for a wolf. Also, Ladd probably isn't a viable wagon and I feel like I'm not in a position to convince you.

Unvote: Ladd
Vote: Silverkeith

Keith has no interactions with other players, just a list, which is bad at best.

Vote for logic

[SilverKeith]

I don't think that anything I've seen from Ladd makes them town. I admit, the list with so many towns would be a bold choice for a wolf. Also, Ladd probably isn't a viable wagon and I feel like I'm not in a position to convince you.

Unvote: Ladd
Vote: Silverkeith

Keith has no interactions with other players, just a list, which is bad at best.

How does this makes me a wolf btw?

I'm around ama I guess. Will be reading and around till day ends.

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 6 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Visor Ephemeral EnderWiggin
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Logic 2 baudib1 hollowkatt
EnderWiggin 1 Syn
Ladd 1 Wisdom
Silverkeith 1 pzelda



EOD in 1 hour

:00 good
:01 bad

[SilverKeith]

??? this happens all the time

in the circles I played with anyway

I do not remember seeing it ever, but by the tone you're prolly missinterpreting what I'm pointing out here.

I'm tempted to ask for an instance of this but I think it'd be dumb. Also, if you're from the syndicate iirc, I do concede this is something I could see Mac doing as a wolf for example, but Mac is a v particular player, don't think wolf eph posts like this based on my knowledge of 0 (zero) meaningful games with Eph I've had.

[pzelda]

i didn't feel like visiting the grand library of logic games and checking out all of the exhibits so i picked out the most recent one i could think of

simple

Cool, I wouldn't bother to meta dive.

[Raskolnikov]

Sup?

I think Logic is a wolf. But lettuce flip pzelda first :curtain:

[Raskolnikov]

His case on Dya seemed labourish, dunno how to word it

[pzelda]

Vote for logic

I guess I could but despite him being in my bottom three I don't have a real reason for suspecting him. Lack of content? Maybe.

[Raskolnikov]

Btw, who should I MD tonight?

[Raskolnikov]

Dya looks good on this page except for this single post.

If there are more questions in their ISO like this, I'll wolf lean them.

Like this is really v!Logic best sr off D1?

[pzelda]

How does this makes me a wolf btw?

I'm around ama I guess. Will be reading and around till day ends.

It doesn't make you a wolf, it makes you less likely a town than most of the players. I'm sure you can do more in the next sixty minutes if you're a villager.

[Raskolnikov]

WHat is your POE pzelda?

[pzelda]

I would vote logic to self press tbh.

[Visor]

Vote: Logic

[Raskolnikov]

OK but what your world view looks like rn? Who are the wolves, why? etc etc

[baudib1]

Sup?

I think Logic is a wolf. But lettuce flip pzelda first :curtain:

Vote for logic

[pzelda]

WHat is your POE pzelda?

I don't think I really have one at this point.

[Raskolnikov]

Vote for logic

Yes, but pzelda is wolf so gg.

[baudib1]

Yes, but pzelda is wolf so gg.

If Zelda flips w we can get him to spew his partner.

[Visor]

I don't think I really have one at this point.

:drunk:

[Raskolnikov]

vote: Logic :curtain:

[pzelda]

I don't think I really have one at this point.

To explain this, I have few names I would vote for and I probably wouldn't vote for the rest. I would vote for:

Ladd
SK
Logic
Visor
Eph
Dya
Syn
and maybe C4
and maybe maybe Wisdom

I would prefer the first two to be wagons today, but I guess that's not happening.

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 5 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG ladd Ephemeral EnderWiggin
Logic 3 baudib1 hollowkatt Visor
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
EnderWiggin 1 Syn
Ladd 1 Wisdom
Silverkeith 1 pzelda


EOD in 45 minutes

:00 good
:01 bad

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY

pzelda 4 YOLOSWAG ladd Ephemeral EnderWiggin
Logic 4 baudib1 hollowkatt Visor Raskolnikov
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
EnderWiggin 1 Syn
Ladd 1 Wisdom
Silverkeith 1 pzelda


updated

eod in approx 45 minutes

:00 good
:01 bad

[Raskolnikov]

To explain this, I have few names I would vote for and I probably wouldn't vote for the rest. I would vote for:

Ladd
SK
Logic
Visor
Eph
Dya
Syn
and maybe C4
and maybe maybe Wisdom

I would prefer the first two to be wagons today, but I guess that's not happening.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LoathsomePracticalJapanesebeetle-size_restricted.gif

lmao. Kill this with fire

[pzelda]

Unvote: Silverkeith
Vote: Logic

[SilverKeith]

Sup, would you tell me more about this when you wake up pls? (like I am not leaning this way, but it's something I have been entertaining too in my head and I am ready to revisit if we appear to be flipping villas. - mostly out of the terrible feeling of being an ez pocket for Visor and swag - and being weirded out by baudib 'I am so town' attitude tbh).

"I am ready to revisit if we flip villas" sounds like wolf code for "this might be my next misslunch, y'know?". Don't think rask is a wolf rn, thought this was fun.

Anyways I think baudi made the post that pinged me the most in the game. It was the one where he said "everyone should weight in on hollowkat".

I'm not sure how to explain it but like, isn't this the kind of post you make where you're, uh, somewhat confident in your target being a wolf? While I do generally agree with the takes regarding HK opinion on Syn (particularly, I agree with the other wolf game comparison), I also don't really think is damning or that strong at all.

I feel like asking people for opinions on HK is setting him up as a conversation topic, and I also think that HK is the kind of player who's good while on the driver seat, but can come off as antagonistic when under pressure (as in, I think he likes to bite back if the reads ppl have on him aren't good), so him being in the spotlight and pushed for a somewhat questionable post is something I think a wolf would do. And I kinda think by being all like "yeah y'all should comment on HK" kinda oversells how much he thinks HK is a wolf, but it doesn't really checks out because I don't think he really is interested in showing people if/why HK is a wolf.

I think I liked how the puzzles pieces fit into my brain more than what I liked my solve itself.

I don't remember where I got the Yolo pairing from. I think it was from this post:


I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I?m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven?t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I?m not sneaking away to post at work lul

I'm gonna make a read on the spot based on what I feel a plausible read from "last night SK" would sound like.

But I think him trying to give a take on the HK/Syn dynamic while kinda being non committal about it feels a bit distance-y. And his baudi V read feels a bit bs-y but maybe it makes sense with more context.

[Syn]

i already feel like no matter what cap flips i'm gonna be right back at hk/logic tomorrow

which probably isn't healthy but i mean, lolhk lollogic

this is a wolfy po—


i liked syn's posts about hk

nvm i love c4

[baudib1]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LoathsomePracticalJapanesebeetle-size_restricted.gif

lmao. Kill this with fire

Lol

[Ephemeral]

villas(not sorted within tiers)

rask
c4

nl
baudib
Swag

Wisdom
ladd

rest is poe

dya and syn are currently the furthest away from the immediate poe

syn's most recent posts have been alright-ish but nothing outstanding, and the slot has overall done too little for me to get a proper feel for it

dya keeps getting villa reads and I just... don't really see it? although at this point it might just be a me problem given how a bunch of ppl seem confident there, the closest thing I can find in favor of dya is the most recent exchange between them and logic and even then that's really flimsy because it's not hard to look good when reacting to uh, a push like that imo. might be clearing if logic flips w though

sk looked like he was coming in hot with his first wall but nothing happened since so /shrug

hk,pzelda and logic are the wolfiest slots individually and have been discussed plenty, don't rly have anything new to add there, we solve in these 3 and see what happens

[SilverKeith]

In any case I don't see either a baudi/yolo lunch happening here so aside from that I guess I'm in general agreeance on a logic/pzelda lunch (maybe HK).

Should prolly get a more meaningful opinion on these slots, ears are open.

[pzelda]

this is a wolfy po—



nvm i love c4

Lovely

[SilverKeith]

I don't think Syn is a wolf. idr if I stated this but, yeah, that.

[Visor]

Vote: pzelda

at least we've solved the eod meta, by deciding the wagon 24 hours ago

[baudib1]

In any case I don't see either a baudi/yolo lunch happening here so aside from that I guess I'm in general agreeance on a logic/pzelda lunch (maybe HK).

Should prolly get a more meaningful opinion on these slots, ears are open.

If it was me and YOLO town should concede tbh.

[Syn]

vote: Logic

[baudib1]

I?m fine with both too wagons tbh. At least we?ll have interesting votes to look at.

1 wolf off-wagon most of the time.

[SilverKeith]

If it was me and YOLO town should concede tbh.

Have no opinion on the other post I made? Thought it could help you solve me.

[Raskolnikov]

vote: pzelda

BOOM

https://i.imgur.com/lOeviOX.gif

BYE

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/napoleon-dynamite-dance-gif-10.gif

SCUM

https://media.tenor.com/Kn9NsqjhHlIAAAAC/napolean-dynamite.gif

[baudib1]

Have no opinion on the other post I made? Thought it could help you solve me.

It was bad.

[SilverKeith]

I've isoed Logic and I think I'd rather lunch him than pzelda tho this answer might change when I ISO pzelda (but I don't think it will).

The first couple of Logic posts are just very w/e and then there's the dya read which EHHH, I don't really think the read is wolfy in itself, but it's weird that he choose to focus on it while other stuff was happening that he could've talked about.

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY as of #696

pzelda 6 YOLOSWAG ladd Ephemeral EnderWiggin Visor Raskolnikov
Logic 4 baudib1 hollowkatt pzelda Syn
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Ladd 1 Wisdom


Approx 30ish min to go

:00 good
:01 bad

[baudib1]

Fwiw I don’t know if Logic has more w equity than Zelda but lunching him would be funnier.

[Visor]

Vote: Logic

podracing.gif

[baudib1]

VOTE TALLY as of #696

pzelda 6 YOLOSWAG ladd Ephemeral EnderWiggin Visor Raskolnikov
Logic 4 baudib1 hollowkatt pzelda Syn
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Ladd 1 Wisdom


Approx 30ish min to go

:00 good
:01 bad

Gotta admit that the Zelda wagon looks purer. Oh well.

[Ephemeral]

Vote: Logic

[noraplus]

i should be here for the last 20

cap kinda feels like he's catting with words lol

[SilverKeith]

Ok,
I've read everything and I only have this to say. Ender only makes sense as a wolf if he's exactly with HK. But I doubt that. It would be too easy.
There probably is at least one wolf on me too. If I exclude my town leans, It's either Visor or Ladd or EPH, if I remember the votes correctly.
I think Visor came early in and had some ok posts, but I don't see much of a reason behind his vote.
Eph feels simillar-ish but his posts are a tad bit easier to read and include less emojis. So, I probably would vote Visor over him.
Ladd came in late and his posts are full of intentional waffling, which might be nai, but him voting me in a post about HK is meh imho. I don't think he explained it later.

Vote: ladd

I cannot comprehend how he comes from just posting some thoughts here and there to the bolded concussion.

His game kinda feels disjointed. It's hard to follow his thought process. Ok I kinda think this might make him town in the sense that his process is all over the place.

- he starts by calling HK v and everyone else on null.
- He uses, in this post, the phrase "if I exclude my townleans" idk who he was talking about here but I'm gonna assume it's more than one person.
- There's a ladd push which is a bit ??. I get like, not seeing ladd as town, I guess, but there's also other people playing the game? I could get a ladd shade there if most of the other players were townie from his pov but he hasn't expressed that.
- Then there's a list which includes ppl he'd vote for, which implicitly says there's a list of ppl he wouldn't vote for, but he hasn't really given explanations on those I feel. Are wolves this allergic to giving out townreads? I think your average wolf likes to be correct a bit more at least and giving like a free townread to position themselves better. This is weird.

anyways

Vote: Logic

[SilverKeith]

Gotta admit that the Zelda wagon looks purer. Oh well.

oh no why did you point this to me.

[baudib1]

oh no

[Ephemeral]

Raskolnikov

do you have a reason to prefer pzelda over logic?

[SilverKeith]

honestly should've just closed my eyes and voted alongside ladd.

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY as of #707

Logic 7 baudib1 hollowkatt pzelda Syn Visor Ephemeral Silverkeith
pzelda 4 YOLOSWAG ladd EnderWiggin Raskolnikov
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Ladd 1 Wisdom

[Ephemeral]

logic2.png :curtain:

[Raskolnikov]

Raskolnikov

do you have a reason to prefer pzelda over logic?

He is borderline lolcating imo. Idk why Logic is better tbh. I think he is a wolf too. Maybe spewing Dya town? Bof

[SilverKeith]

so how has y'all week been?

[noraplus]

sk's eod is kinda pure

[baudib1]

Some of you sketchy people go back to Zelda.

[Ephemeral]

both hk and pzelda voting logic is without a doubt, a thing

lol

[Syn]

both hk and pzelda voting logic is without a doubt, a thing

lol

does it make you go hmmmmmm

[noraplus]

i don't really care which way this goes aorn lol

[SilverKeith]

both hk and pzelda voting logic is without a doubt, a thing

lol

I don't vibe with wagonomics lately but if any of the three is a wolf I think there might be something there.

[Visor]

Vote: Pzelda

impo just poison logic

[baudib1]

Could be W/W tbh

If it’s V/V the people off wagon right now are super sketchy.

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY as of 718

Logic 6 baudib1 hollowkatt pzelda Syn Ephemeral Silverkeith
pzelda 5 YOLOSWAG ladd EnderWiggin Raskolnikov Visor
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Ladd 1 Wisdom


10 minutes to go

:00 good
:01 bad

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Pzelda

impo just poison logic

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/4d/e5/614de537ea516c274f9c95e722fbf9d5.gif

[SilverKeith]

Vote:Pzelda

Science

[Syn]

Could be W/W tbh

If it’s V/V the people off wagon right now are super sketchy.

why

[Raskolnikov]

top page goat

[Ephemeral]

Vote: Pzelda

impo just poison logic

or the other way around I guess

i'm prolly just overthinking this lol

[baudib1]

why

that’s how this game works

[Syn]

that’s how this game works

like half the player list already has their d2 vote planned

it's irrelevant

[Visor]

just poison whoever doesn't die

i do think pzelda is more likely to be a wolf in general than logic (esp given his popins are just.... wot)

[baudib1]

like half the player list already has their d2 vote planned

it's irrelevant

wrong

[noraplus]

Vote: Pzelda

impo just poison logic

on it

[Syn]

wrong

why do you hate me personally

[SilverKeith]

I'll hero poison

[Raskolnikov]

i've got a pretty long case detailing the last wolves in the game that is focused on the game from a deepwolf perspective. its more legacy than anything but i wanted to use this post to emphasize that, should I die, this post should not be ignored. please please please do not ignore this upcoming post.

i don't think it is worth using KP to go down this path yet, but should we end up in a worst case scenario of having gone 0/2 or maybe just 1/2 on the lunch/vigs tonight, then please please please give my case a hard look. if i'm wrong and we are just correct on pzelda/Poison Logic tonight then i'll look pretty silly but that's OK cause we won. if not, follow my lead.

alright, having said that:

[SilverKeith]

like half the player list already has their d2 vote planned

it's irrelevant

wrong but townie post.

[noraplus]

I'll hero poison

you'll be hero poisoned

[Sunbae]

VOTE TALLY as of 732

pzelda 6 YOLOSWAG ladd EnderWiggin Raskolnikov Visor Silverkeith
Logic 5 baudib1 hollowkatt pzelda Syn Ephemeral
hollowkatt 2 noraplus dyachei
Ladd 1 Wisdom


5 minutes left

:00 good
:01 bad

[baudib1]

glgl

[Visor]

gl us

[Raskolnikov]

sya potatoes

[Ephemeral]

glgl

[noraplus]

you probably shouldn't go back to hk, but if you do, it would make me first on the wagon ~:cool:

[SilverKeith]

so who of y'all will be changing their vote last minute for the lulz?

[Raskolnikov]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/5GoVLqeAOo6PK/200.gif

[noraplus]

glgl

[pzelda]

I'm back. Sorry had to disappear for a moment.
Still voting logic, tho.

[Ephemeral]

so who of y'all will be changing their vote last minute for the lulz?

Vote: Pzelda

:2thumbsup:

[Raskolnikov]

glgl

[noraplus]

I'm back. Sorry had to disappear for a moment.
Still voting logic, tho.

any 30 second legacy? lmao

[Sunbae]

IT IS NIGHT

PLEASE STOP POSTING