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Sunbae
01-30-2023, 22:27
This is a fun casual mafia game


Rules:


48/24 phases, at 7pm american eastern. :00 posts/votes are good, :01 posts/votes bad.
You may not talk after death.
Don't quote anything I say to you. Paraphrasing is fine.
No screenshots, etc.
You may NOT talk to players outside the thread unless otherwise specified in your role PM.
You will vote for players you want lynched during the day, using the format, Vote: Sunbae. Votes must be in bold to count. You do not need to unvote to vote someone else. I will count your last legal vote as your vote. You must use that specific vote format with the colon or the vote WILL NOT count. (this is so i can find the votes easier)
You can thank posts who cares, just don't angle it/be angleshooty about it.
Do not talk at night.
Votes that end in a tie will be decided by random lynch.
No lynch is allowed as is abstain.
Don't edit posts please.
If you miss a day phase I will message you and see whats up. If I don't hear from you by the start of the next day you will be subbed or modkilled (depending on game phase and whether I can find a sub).
Have fun. This is not an option . If you don't think you'll have fun with this game... don't join it.
Night orders are due 1 hour prior to start of day. (Please PM me night orders, though I will also accept discord.)





Setup and Roles:

Town:
- 1 Town Motion Detector. This power goes away when only one scum remains. (choose a target each night. you will be told if they performed an action or if an action was performed on them that night. You will get back either "Yes" or "No")

- 1 Town JOAT (1x Doctor, 1x Poison, 1x Roleblock) + 1x Day Heal (If a player is poisoned, you may choose to heal them before the day is out and they won't die)

- 10x Vanilla Town


Mafia:
- 1 Scum Firefighter (Each night you must target a player. Nothing happens to them, you just target them).

- 1 Scum 2x Power Killer (Each night you may select a player. If that player is a power role that player will die. If not, nothing happens)

- 1 Scum Backup 2x Power Killer (The charges are shared between the Power Killer and the Backup. If Power Killer uses 1 then dies, backup can only use 1 more)

Note: The scum nightkill is assigned to a player and will trigger motion detection





Playerlist:
1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Hollowkatt
6. Ladd
7. Logic
8. noraplus
9. PZelda
10. Raskolnikov
11. Silverkeith
12. Syn
13. Visor
14. Wisdom
15. Yoloswag


Sub:
1. Cuthillius
2. Vulgard
3. Csargo

Spec:
1. Hally
2. Totally not Taffy
3. Juliets
4. cape90




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I will announce when the game has started, please do not post until then, thanks.

If the thread opens and you do not have a role pm, please DM me before posting

Don't discuss role pms in thread obv, they're all just you randed x congrats anyway.

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Current Game Status Will Be Updated Here After Day 1:

Alive (6/15):

1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. Ephemeral
4. Syn
5. Visor
6. Yoloswag


Dead (9/15):
Pzelda (Scum Firefighter, d1 chop)
Wisdom (Vanilla Town, n1 death)
Logic (Vanilla Town, d2 poison)
Silverkeith (Vanilla Town, d2 chop)
noraplus (Vanilla Town, n2 death)
HollowKatt (Vanilla Town, d3 chop)
Raskolnikov (Vanilla Town, n3 death)
EnderWiggin (Scum 2x Power Killer, d4 chop)
Ladd (Town JOAT, n4 kill)

Updates:
Day 1: pzelda chopped (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053841039&viewfull=1#post2053841039). scum firefighter
Night 1: Wisdom Dead Vanilla Town, Logic Poisoned (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053841044&viewfull=1#post2053841044)
Day 2: SilverKeith chopped Vanilla Town . Logic dead to poison Vanilla Town. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053841522&viewfull=1#post2053841522)
Night 2: Noraplus Dead Vanilla Town (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053841529&viewfull=1#post2053841529)
Day 3: HolloKatt chopped Vanilla Town (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053842135&viewfull=1#post2053842135)
Night 3: Raskolnikov dead Vanilla Town (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053842149&viewfull=1#post2053842149)
Day 4: EnderWiggin chopped Scum 2x Power Killer (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053842397&viewfull=1#post2053842397)
Night 5: Ladd dead Town JOAT (http://https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053842418&viewfull=1#post2053842418)

Sunbae
01-30-2023, 23:13
Question: Can a wolf use two actions in a night?

Answer: Yes. A wolf can carry both the kill and their role action to different places. They will be counted at motion at each location.

Sunbae
01-30-2023, 23:14
Role PMs are out.

Note, the vanilla villager role pm is as follows:


You are vanilla town!

The game thread can be found here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154781-Motion-Detect-15er-GAME-THREAD?p=2053840260#post2053840260


You win when all threats to town are dead.

If you have any questions, let me and benneh know


The game will start at 7pm eastern tomorrow, 1/31/2023.

Thank you all for signing up and we hope you have fun!

Sunbae
02-01-2023, 01:00
Day has begun!

There is no MAJ today

The day will end 48 hours from now (Thursday, 7pm eastern).

:00 good

:01 bad

Have fun! If you need anything contact benneh or i on discord

noraplus
02-01-2023, 01:01
https://i.gifer.com/7FLL.gif

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:02
Sup friendos, Syn.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:02
I’m pretty mad that Sunbae didn’t follow my request to be randed wolf. The only reason I inned was to have the chance to power wolf with YOLO and roflstomp this town of potatoes.

(YOLO: I had it all planned out where we nk Dyachei n1, leave slank-cover ladd and Visor alive to give town paranoia and quietly inspire misyeets and chillax while doing some elite distancing from our third partner.)

Anyway, just another town game but at least in this list I probably won’t be perceived to be as dangerous as 4-5 other villagers and hope people here won’t be inting like your typical MU 15er.
So this is what will happen:
- I’ll be casually cleared by everyone
- 2-3 players will call me their top townread on D1
- prob postcap within the 1/4 mark
- a bunch of you will tinfoil on me D2/3 if I don’t hit a wolf
- I’ll bury the wolf at F5

message to the wolves only
This will probably make the wolves read me as VT but I’ll be breadcrumbing my role at some point

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:05
Enjoy that juicy poison baudib :boxedin:

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 01:07
https://i.imgur.com/x7sZbze.gif

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 01:08
swag

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:08
swag

noraplus
02-01-2023, 01:08
all default pfps are wolves

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 01:09
Sup y'all

Rolled villa

I've played with most of the players in the game, pleased to meet anyone I haven't

baudib my top villa

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 01:10
Sup friendos, Syn.

vote: raskol

Syn is also a friendo

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 01:11
I?m pretty mad that Sunbae didn?t follow my request to be randed wolf. The only reason I inned was to have the chance to power wolf with YOLO and roflstomp this town of potatoes.

(YOLO: I had it all planned out where we nk Dyachei n1, leave slank-cover ladd and Visor alive to give town paranoia and quietly inspire misyeets and chillax while doing some elite distancing from our third partner.)

Anyway, just another town game but at least in this list I probably won?t be perceived to be as dangerous as 4-5 other villagers and hope people here won?t be inting like your typical MU 15er.
So this is what will happen:
- I?ll be casually cleared by everyone
- 2-3 players will call me their top townread on D1
- prob postcap within the 1/4 mark
- a bunch of you will tinfoil on me D2/3 if I don?t hit a wolf
- I?ll bury the wolf at F5

message to the wolves only
This will probably make the wolves read me as VT but I?ll be breadcrumbing my role at some point

ok you are actually a wolf but we won't get around to chopping you till like D4 or something

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 01:12
Sup y'all

Rolled villa

I've played with most of the players in the game, pleased to meet anyone I haven't

baudib my top villa

oof

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:12
26338

but yes!

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 01:13
oofI missed you too hk

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:13
26338

but yes!

was replying to noraplus lol.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:25
My read on Raskolinov:

"Raskolnikov" can be seen as both a complex and morally ambiguous character. Some may view him as a sympathetic protagonist who is struggling with poverty and existential crisis, while others may view him as a ruthless and selfish murderer. Ultimately, the interpretation of Raskolnikov as a "good" or "bad" character is a matter of personal opinion.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:26
A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, and I will never be rescinding. I am the MD. When it becomes prudent I will provide my peek.

Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the MD. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the MD cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally [i]know[i] that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not **** up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 13 players you need to try to read, rather than 14: I have already provided a "free" peek of me in a game with a mere 15 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the MD, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of oding this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:27
My read on Raskolinov:

"Raskolnikov" can be seen as both a complex and morally ambiguous character. Some may view him as a sympathetic protagonist who is struggling with poverty and existential crisis, while others may view him as a ruthless and selfish murderer. Ultimately, the interpretation of Raskolnikov as a "good" or "bad" character is a matter of personal opinion.

Can't wait to have yours :curtain:

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:30
I don't think that was a good claim but OK.

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 01:33
I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make a single irrelevant post at SOD then peace out for hours on end. I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 49 shitposts over the next 35 hours, then once EOD rolls around I'll make an unspecified number of additional shitposts. No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips. I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous. The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles. I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat. I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough". I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient. I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear. More specifically, black boxer-briefs. You can't stop me. You can't mislynch me. You're powerless. I laugh in your face. I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want. Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby. While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world. My armpits are bone dry. I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do. Ligma. What's ligma? Ligma balls.

Vote: No Lynch

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:33
Sunbae: We are NKing Raskolinov.

wait is this Discord

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:35
I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make a single irrelevant post at SOD then peace out for hours on end. I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 49 shitposts over the next 35 hours, then once EOD rolls around I'll make an unspecified number of additional shitposts. No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips. I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous. The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles. I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat. I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough". I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient. I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear. More specifically, black boxer-briefs. You can't stop me. You can't mislynch me. You're powerless. I laugh in your face. I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want. Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby. While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world. My armpits are bone dry. I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do. Ligma. What's ligma? Ligma balls.

Vote: No Lynch

Chat GPI says: This post seems to be a form of trolling or making a parody of typical behavior in a game of Mafia or Werewolf. The content appears to be making fun of overconfidence and nonsensical behavior, while poking fun at the behavior of players in these games.

Visor
02-01-2023, 01:37
Vote: Syn

welcome back bronana

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:38
Sunbae: We are NKing Raskolinov.

wait is this Discord

Look, here's what's going to happen:

We're going to lynch someone, probably someone in the perceived lower half of skill level of the players in the game that had the most uninspired d1 by t0an and/or volume; hopefully we're right

The wolves are going to SPK someone, probably Visor if he's a villager and/or has something that could be minimally construed as a correct fakepeek, and then some other $%#! may or may not happen and we'll have NK/mechanical stuff to talk about

It's hard to gin up enthusiasm when the real game isn't actually going to start for the better part of 48 hours, and having hk act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:39
Vote: Visor

Vote: Yoloswag

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:41
I don't think that was a good claim but OK.

best post so far.

Nice pasta Ephe

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 01:46
I missed you too hk

swag ~:grouphug:

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 01:48
A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, and I will never be rescinding. I am the MD. When it becomes prudent I will provide my peek.

Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the MD. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the MD cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally [i]know[i] that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not **** up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 13 players you need to try to read, rather than 14: I have already provided a "free" peek of me in a game with a mere 15 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the MD, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of oding this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.
I wish I was as cool as Visor

ftfy

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 01:48
Vote: Syn

welcome back bronana

I forgot you were playing.

noraplus
02-01-2023, 01:50
best post so far.

Nice pasta Ephe

i'd honestly call his naked votes post better lol

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 01:51
best post so far.

Nice pasta Ephe

https://media.tenor.com/uezQlfavDisAAAAC/hat-tip-leave.gif

Visor
02-01-2023, 01:54
I forgot you were playing.

if you are not a villager feel free to laugh at me

if you are, read on:

you are a potato. your friends think you are a potato. they went out of their way to defend you and your potatoey ways because they know that your potatoey moves will get you mislynched if you are a villager.

they all think you were a villager. i kinda agree with them from some read of your mu games but I trust their reads on you more.

i understand that you want to do potatoey shit like vote me for some completely asinine reasons that make sense to only a select handful of root vegetables in the garden patch. let me be clear. if you make this vote tomorrow and you are a villager we will lose. and everyone will call you a potato and you will deserve it for your potato vote on me.

i am saying potato a lot to emphasise how terrible i think your play has been regardless of your alignment. think you are worse than useless in 100% of games from this single sample size. i do not need to ever play another game with you to confirm this. you post absolute nonsense and demand lynches for mindboggling (if any!) reasons.

you are king potato of potato mountain.

but i think you are a villager more than the other players in this game.

so i ask of you, to stop being a :daisy:ing potato for once in this game and do something useful.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 01:55
if you are not a villager feel free to laugh at me

if you are, read on:

you are a potato. your friends think you are a potato. they went out of their way to defend you and your potatoey ways because they know that your potatoey moves will get you mislynched if you are a villager.

they all think you were a villager. i kinda agree with them from some read of your mu games but I trust their reads on you more.

i understand that you want to do potatoey shit like vote me for some completely asinine reasons that make sense to only a select handful of root vegetables in the garden patch. let me be clear. if you make this vote tomorrow and you are a villager we will lose. and everyone will call you a potato and you will deserve it for your potato vote on me.

i am saying potato a lot to emphasise how terrible i think your play has been regardless of your alignment. think you are worse than useless in 100% of games from this single sample size. i do not need to ever play another game with you to confirm this. you post absolute nonsense and demand lynches for mindboggling (if any!) reasons.

you are king potato of potato mountain.

but i think you are a villager more than the other players in this game.

so i ask of you, to stop being a :daisy:ing potato for once in this game and do something useful.

This statement appears to be a playful, trollish expression of confidence and nonchalance. The language used is exaggerated and filled with sarcasm, irony, and humor, and it does not seem to convey any serious message or intention.

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 01:56
This statement appears to be a playful, trollish expression of confidence and nonchalance. The language used is exaggerated and filled with sarcasm, irony, and humor, and it does not seem to convey any serious message or intention.

having been there for the actual context of visors pasta this post is twice as funny to me lol

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:58
if you are not a villager feel free to laugh at me

if you are, read on:

you are a potato. your friends think you are a potato. they went out of their way to defend you and your potatoey ways because they know that your potatoey moves will get you mislynched if you are a villager.

they all think you were a villager. i kinda agree with them from some read of your mu games but I trust their reads on you more.

i understand that you want to do potatoey shit like vote me for some completely asinine reasons that make sense to only a select handful of root vegetables in the garden patch. let me be clear. if you make this vote tomorrow and you are a villager we will lose. and everyone will call you a potato and you will deserve it for your potato vote on me.

i am saying potato a lot to emphasise how terrible i think your play has been regardless of your alignment. think you are worse than useless in 100% of games from this single sample size. i do not need to ever play another game with you to confirm this. you post absolute nonsense and demand lynches for mindboggling (if any!) reasons.

you are king potato of potato mountain.

but i think you are a villager more than the other players in this game.

so i ask of you, to stop being a :daisy:ing potato for once in this game and do something useful.

I agree, but for real (lol) I am wondering what prompted that post from hk.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 01:58
also Visor changed his avie, he is outed. Go nuts folks

noraplus
02-01-2023, 01:59
rask's posts are cute enough

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:00
also Visor changed his avie, he is outed. Go nuts folks

i changed it a couple times

the first time was because i was sick of old metal face

the second time was because zack reminded me that it was actually edse's avatar and i refuse to not be a unicorn

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:01
the best thing about the hoya seer claim pasta

is that the village got swept in that game lmao

noraplus
02-01-2023, 02:02
the best thing about the hoya seer claim pasta

is that the village got swept in that game lmao

was it the champs game? think i caught bits of it live lol

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 02:03
lmao, promissing

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 02:04
the best thing about the hoya seer claim pasta

is that the village got swept in that game lmao

classic

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:05
wow where to begin

an embarrassment to be associated with this game or the village.

Raskolinov, ladd. done with ww and hopefully permbanned.

Ephemeral, quite possibly the worst werewolf player of all time. never has one man posted that many words in a game and been so wrong, so often. painful to even skim your posts. we always hear about these old school players being good back in the day, but they are all just pretty much terrible thinkers and have no clue what is going on most of the time. you don't even get credit for re-reads cause you did 0 critical thinking, just pure aids busy work.

YOLOSWAG really just gave up today and didn't bother thinking about anything even tho the game could've easily been figured out. the idea that you believed inanity's claim is just lol @ you. i can't really harp on it cause you put in effort this game and weren't a complete disaster like ladd.

Dyachei made A LOT OF GOOD POSTS, i guess he is the village mvp? either him or myself.

Hk, Logic, Wisdom, awful village leaders, just awful. once Syn and myself were dead, the woofs ran the entire game.

EnderWiggin should probably be given a werewolf vacation for what he did in this game (he didn't post for TWO GAME DAYS despite posting elsewhere on pog) but we have pussy mods so nothing will happen even tho that is like a cardinal sin. i like the idea that he immediately inned to GoT tho, very classy move.

i thought the woofs were mostly all terrible and struggling except for noraplus, who played well, so id probably give him woof MVP. whoever led the night actions also MVP. PZelda i guess?

Silverkeith i knew you would suggest an FPS with that Visor thing. almost came back to bite you. but i admire the balls. ended up working

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:06
was it the champs game? think i caught bits of it live lol

ah it was on pog years ago

like somewhere around 2013 or so iirc?

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:06
also the actual seer (not hoya) got modkilled iirc for the loss

truly a classic pog ww game

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 02:08
ah it was on pog years ago

like somewhere around 2013 or so iirc?

oooh old, disgusting

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 02:08
walls of shitposts

this site is dank

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:09
also the actual seer (not hoya) got modkilled iirc for the loss

truly a classic pog ww game

I've been reading old mashes for the past month or so, Last night I got to CT's Disneyland mash, Gabe claimed you and he were masons (as w/w).

The best part is it was another postgame of yelling at Digger lmao.

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 02:10
walls of shitposts

this site is dank

we do have a high grade shitpost lineup

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:10
I legit think Yolo/NL are wolfy for not engaging with me. ffs u slimy soabs

noraplus
02-01-2023, 02:12
I legit think Yolo/NL are wolfy for not engaging with me. ffs u slimy soabs

nah visor never engages anyone

but yolo? their chances of being a wolf are several percentages above rand. several percentages, i tell you!

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 02:20
Yolo/Visor/nora. that was ez. what a bunch of noobs.

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:21
I've been reading old mashes for the past month or so, Last night I got to CT's Disneyland mash, Gabe claimed you and he were masons (as w/w).

The best part is it was another postgame of yelling at Digger lmao.

god i played so bad in that game lol

it was my first game back from a ww break and i was so rusty (plus first time mash wolfing lol)

my other mash wolf games have been much better lol

(loldigger)

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:24
I’m pretty mad that Sunbae didn’t follow my request to be randed wolf. The only reason I inned was to have the chance to power wolf with YOLO and roflstomp this town of potatoes.

(YOLO: I had it all planned out where we nk Dyachei n1, leave slank-cover ladd and Visor alive to give town paranoia and quietly inspire misyeets and chillax while doing some elite distancing from our third partner.)

Anyway, just another town game but at least in this list I probably won’t be perceived to be as dangerous as 4-5 other villagers and hope people here won’t be inting like your typical MU 15er.
So this is what will happen:
- I’ll be casually cleared by everyone
- 2-3 players will call me their top townread on D1
- prob postcap within the 1/4 mark
- a bunch of you will tinfoil on me D2/3 if I don’t hit a wolf
- I’ll bury the wolf at F5

message to the wolves only
This will probably make the wolves read me as VT but I’ll be breadcrumbing my role at some point


god i played so bad in that game lol

it was my first game back from a ww break and i was so rusty (plus first time mash wolfing lol)

my other mash wolf games have been much better lol

(loldigger)

I told Katze how I vigged you to end Haters 3 and now they’re jealous.

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:24
did you ever read the SSB mash from 2016 on mu baudib?

greatest wolf mash team ever assembled (mostly)

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 02:25
Yolo/Visor/nora. that was ez. what a bunch of noobs.

replace nora with ladd

the law of ladd randing w in small games

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:25
I told Katze how I vigged you to end Haters 3 and now they’re jealous.

f u lissa

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:26
did you ever read the SSB mash from 2016 on mu baudib?

greatest wolf mash team ever assembled (mostly)

Nah. I?ll go with the 2019 Anni wolves that won with about 18 villas alive. Me and ladd endgamed.

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 02:27
I legit think Yolo/NL are wolfy for not engaging with me. ffs u slimy soabsI thought it'd be funnier if I just thanked posts shading me

noraplus
02-01-2023, 02:28
I thought it'd be funnier if I just thanked posts shading me

i'm being erased

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:29
f u lissa

dude u claimed u were vanilla ice cream. You get the haters riled up by…?

gg I was Taylor Swift.

Visor
02-01-2023, 02:30
dude u claimed u were vanilla ice cream. You get the haters riled up by…?

gg I was Taylor Swift.

ya i was trying to claim something outlandish lol

baudib1
02-01-2023, 02:33
also Digger is literally Australian. lolaussies

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 02:36
if you are not a villager feel free to laugh at me

if you are, read on:

you are a potato. your friends think you are a potato. they went out of their way to defend you and your potatoey ways because they know that your potatoey moves will get you mislynched if you are a villager.

they all think you were a villager. i kinda agree with them from some read of your mu games but I trust their reads on you more.

i understand that you want to do potatoey shit like vote me for some completely asinine reasons that make sense to only a select handful of root vegetables in the garden patch. let me be clear. if you make this vote tomorrow and you are a villager we will lose. and everyone will call you a potato and you will deserve it for your potato vote on me.

i am saying potato a lot to emphasise how terrible i think your play has been regardless of your alignment. think you are worse than useless in 100% of games from this single sample size. i do not need to ever play another game with you to confirm this. you post absolute nonsense and demand lynches for mindboggling (if any!) reasons.

you are king potato of potato mountain.

but i think you are a villager more than the other players in this game.

so i ask of you, to stop being a :daisy:ing potato for once in this game and do something useful.

with no due respect I am infinitely better as a player, poster, and dare say human being, than Zone Q11 could hope to be.

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 02:37
having been there for the actual context of visors pasta this post is twice as funny to me lol

It was probably the best post in that game

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 02:37
I agree, but for real (lol) I am wondering what prompted that post from hk.

I called you discount Visor and then Visor made a post in the game and I was all "whoa Visor is playing I forgot about that"

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 02:38
with no due respect I am infinitely better as a player, poster, and dare say human being, than Zone Q11 could hope to be.

��☕

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 02:39
��☕

first one was meant to be the green tea emoji

gdi

Syn
02-01-2023, 02:48
first game in a year and I'm already just skimming wall posts

Syn
02-01-2023, 02:49
through expert analysis I have determined there is a wolf in this thread

noraplus
02-01-2023, 02:49
first game in a year and I'm already just skimming wall posts

they're all crucial

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 04:00
the reason im gonna win this game? simple

i come from the bronanian school of werewolf philosophy. i am training daily with bronana from the syndicate in order to attain the maximum amount of thread sway as both alignments and i have a silver tongue that i can easily manipulate with.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 04:05
You may think I am trying to be actively wolfy, but you are incorrect.

At worst I am unintentionally passively null.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 04:09
through expert analysis I have determined there is a wolf in this thread

Vote: Syn

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 04:10
Ender going with the high level play-by-thanks-only strat

I respect that

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 05:06
through expert analysis I have determined there is a wolf in this thread

I'm pocketed

baudib1
02-01-2023, 05:10
My vote on Syn is serious btw, you’ve the parlay of 1. Complaining about there being too much to read (there’s really not) 2. “I’m rusty” justification and 3. wolves loving to tell the truth (lol there’ll a wolf here, it’s me!)

baudib1
02-01-2023, 05:16
I'm pocketed

Cute w/w action here.

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 05:18
My vote on Syn is serious btw, you’ve the parlay of 1. Complaining about there being too much to read (there’s really not) 2. “I’m rusty” justification and 3. wolves loving to tell the truth (lol there’ll a wolf here, it’s me!)


Cute w/w action here.

In all seriousness how familiar are you with Syn because for me this is solidly in his town play. I don't generally see wolf Syn fuck off and make those kinds of posts, at least not until they're more established in the game. I associate what he's said thus far with his town play, hence my post. Your mileage may vary.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 05:25
In all seriousness how familiar are you with Syn because for me this is solidly in his town play. I don't generally see wolf Syn fuck off and make those kinds of posts, at least not until they're more established in the game. I associate what he's said thus far with his town play, hence my post. Your mileage may vary.

1. I admire u2 powerwolfing tbh.
2. The fact that they did 3 things that are, on a baseline level, ever so slightly >rand to come from a wolf in the course of 30 words is significant considering we have essentially no content in this game. Like I’m sure you have a solid grasp on their meta but I doubt you have enough experience to know what their openers are like after a yearlong break.

glgl

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 05:35
1. I admire u2 powerwolfing tbh.
2. The fact that they did 3 things that are, on a baseline level, ever so slightly >rand to come from a wolf in the course of 30 words is significant considering we have essentially no content in this game. Like I’m sure you have a solid grasp on their meta but I doubt you have enough experience to know what their openers are like after a yearlong break.

glgl

yeah I don't powerwolf, soz
tell you what, if you get syn chopped and he's a wolf I'll vote myself the next day till i die.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 05:40
yeah I don't powerwolf, soz
tell you what, if you get syn chopped and he's a wolf I'll vote myself the next day till i die.

Wow

baudib1
02-01-2023, 05:49
26339

noraplus
02-01-2023, 06:28
Vote: hollowkatt

baudib1
02-01-2023, 06:29
I’m still trying to process the level of weirdness of that post.

noraplus
02-01-2023, 06:35
yeah there's a lot going on there lol

baudib1
02-01-2023, 06:58
I guess we need to follow up here.


Hollowkatt, can you explain the following?

1. On a scale of 1-10, how serious were you?
2. If the answer is above 1, how could you ever be so confident on a read that thin?
3. What would you expect Syn to look like in two posts as a wolf?

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 07:15
I don't have enough ketchup for all this pasta but catch up I did anyway.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 07:39
I don't have enough ketchup for all this pasta but catch up I did anyway.

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?

Visor
02-01-2023, 07:44
In all seriousness how familiar are you with Syn because for me this is solidly in his town play. I don't generally see wolf Syn fuck off and make those kinds of posts, at least not until they're more established in the game. I associate what he's said thus far with his town play, hence my post. Your mileage may vary.

weird read bronana

Syn
02-01-2023, 08:14
My vote on Syn is serious btw, you?ve the parlay of 1. Complaining about there being too much to read (there?s really not) 2. ?I?m rusty? justification and 3. wolves loving to tell the truth (lol there?ll a wolf here, it?s me!)

lol

Syn
02-01-2023, 08:15
vote: hollowkatt

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 09:01
vote: hollowkatt

that's not very charitable of you my deer. Dude literally outed himself to save you and you're driving the bus?

baudib1
02-01-2023, 09:03
Do not Maj, I want Visor to have time.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 09:03
Also good morning.

I have determined reading my poops that the GTO move rn is to dome HK and baudib and turbomaj Syn D2.

Discuss.

Also Sup Wisdom, any thoughts?

Incoming read about Enderlikingposts in 3, 2, 1

baudib1
02-01-2023, 09:11
Also good morning.

I have determined reading my poops that the GTO move rn is to dome HK and baudib and turbomaj Syn D2.

Discuss.

Also Sup Wisdom, any thoughts?

Incoming read about Enderlikingposts in 3, 2, 1

Theoretically should probably kill Syn first since HK said they’d self-in pots if they flipped W.

Do not try to dome me.

pzelda
02-01-2023, 09:43
Good morning,
welp I guess random walls are gifs for old people now.

pzelda
02-01-2023, 09:47
Discuss.


Sounds like a plan. But how about a cup of morning coffee first? That's my go to strategy.

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 09:50
Also good morning.

I have determined reading my poops that the GTO move rn is to dome HK and baudib and turbomaj Syn D2.

Discuss.

Also Sup Wisdom, any thoughts?

Incoming read about Enderlikingposts in 3, 2, 1

No thoughts, only work and being tired! I expect to hype up during the day ^^

Syn's maybe town. Don't give it too much cred though, we haven't played in ages and last time he fooled me as wolf.

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 09:53
Baudib might also be town but his way off solving really collides with mine so I have to hold myself back to not wolf read him for it !

No, this isn't the same type of post I caught Marmot for in the last game

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 09:54
Yay spoilers worked despite the lack of buttons! This forum is taking a bit to get used to but I like it already!
Especially posts being thanksable :3

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 09:57
Theoretically should probably kill Syn first since HK said they?d self-in pots if they flipped W.


Here is the thing. While your points are valid, I am not entirely sure this isn't just plain awkwardness from rusty Syn. So the confidence from HK ("solidly in his town play") and you is something to note. Rn I would be surprised if there isn't a wolf in that little trio.

(here is hope that my chainsaw defense of my wolfbuddy is subtil enough)


Do not try to dome me.

Dw. I want Visor to have the time.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 09:59
Baudib might also be town but his way off solving really collides with mine so I have to hold myself back to not wolf read him for it !

No, this isn't the same type of post I caught Marmot for in the last game

What is my way of solving? How would you know? I mostly makes reads off interacting.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 09:59
pzelda

26340

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:00
vote: pzelda

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:02
Yay spoilers worked despite the lack of buttons! This forum is taking a bit to get used to but I like it already!
Especially posts being thanksable :3

Have a look at the emojis. :bow:

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:04
Who was it that said YOLO is percentage points over rand to be a wolf? I think that’s correct. Him not responding to my post saying I wanted to be w/w with him feels off.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:06
Multiple people wanting give Syn town points for ~ nothing sure is something.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:06
nora iirc

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:16
HOLLOWKATT IS FROZEN AND CRYING

imo

i have to say multiple people apparently seeing that post and not commenting on its utter remarkableness is somewhat weird to me.

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:19
Multiple people wanting give Syn town points for ~ nothing sure is something.

did someone else say it?

hkatts the one that stood out to me, mostly because its exactly what he did in a game i wolfed with him in not too long ago, he had some tmi defence of a villager that was basically telling the thread why player x was a villa

syn could be a villa, but hes done literally nothing to showcase it and having a strong read on syn at this point feels just like a made up read 2 me

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:22
did someone else say it?

hkatts the one that stood out to me, mostly because its exactly what he did in a game i wolfed with him in not too long ago, he had some tmi defence of a villager that was basically telling the thread why player x was a villa

syn could be a villa, but hes done literally nothing to showcase it and having a strong read on syn at this point feels just like a made up read 2 me

Wisdom said Syn maybe town. Rask said it could just be rust/awkwardness, I'm not taking my microread too seriously here but, eh.

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:24
oh you're right

wisdom pal what is u doin

:computer:

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:25
Wisdom said Syn maybe town. Rask said it could just be rust/awkwardness, I'm not taking my microread too seriously here but, eh.

Yeah exactly. That's not me handing free town points to Syn pal.

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:25
Yeah exactly. That's not me handing free town points to Syn pal.

pal is my word, pal

:duel:

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:26
Yeah exactly. That's not me handing free town points to Syn pal.

That’s fair, friendo. Your soft as a feather defense is barely noted.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:27
pal is my word, pal

:duel:

ok bronana

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:31
Speaking of micro-reads, can we just yeet pzelda who just coffee told. pls and ty

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:32
Players Votes

Syn 2 (Visor, baudib1)
Hollowkatt 2 (noraplus, Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (Hollowkatt)
Pzelda 1 (Raskolnikov)
No Lynch 1 (Ephemeral)
noraplus 0 ()
Ephemeral 0 ()
baudib1 0 ()
Visor 0 ()
Dyachei 0 ()
Logic 0 ()
EnderWiggin 0 ()
Ladd 0 ()
Abstain 0 ()
SilverKeith 0 ()
Yoloswag 0 ()
Wisdom 0 ()

hmm i had one with a timer lemme find that version

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:32
Speaking of micro-reads, can we just yeet pzelda who just coffee told. pls and ty

ngl I got outed once for coffee reads.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:36
Players Votes

Syn 2 (Visor, baudib1)
Hollowkatt 2 (noraplus, Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (Hollowkatt)
Pzelda 1 (Raskolnikov)
No Lynch 1 (Ephemeral)
noraplus 0 ()
Ephemeral 0 ()
baudib1 0 ()
Visor 0 ()
Dyachei 0 ()
Logic 0 ()
EnderWiggin 0 ()
Ladd 0 ()
Abstain 0 ()
SilverKeith 0 ()
Yoloswag 0 ()
Wisdom 0 ()

hmm i had one with a timer lemme find that version

Use chatGPT pal, your bot got tricked by Ephe's pasta lol

pzelda
02-01-2023, 10:36
HOLLOWKATT IS FROZEN AND CRYING

imo

i have to say multiple people apparently seeing that post and not commenting on its utter remarkableness is somewhat weird to me.

Is remarkableness a word? I agree that HK is crying. He's a sensitive fella. Not sure if he lives up north enough to be frozen.

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:37
Players Votes

Syn 2 (Visor, baudib1)
Hollowkatt 2 (noraplus, Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (Hollowkatt)
Pzelda 1 (Raskolnikov)
No Lynch 1 (Ephemeral)

whatthistextdo

test

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:38
Is remarkableness a word? I agree that HK is crying. He's a sensitive fella. Not sure if he lives up north enough to be frozen.

:freak:

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:38
:freak:

toldu. Pzelda outed lol

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:39
Ladd hasn’t caught 47 wolves yet so we can kill him too. Rerand imo

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:39
think its off by an hour

test

Players Votes

Syn 2 (Visor, baudib1)
Hollowkatt 2 (noraplus, Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (Hollowkatt)
Pzelda 1 (Raskolnikov)
No Lynch 1 (Ephemeral)

whatthistextdo

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:40
hkatt/pzelda/ladd

bake em away toys

pzelda
02-01-2023, 10:41
Speaking of micro-reads, can we just yeet pzelda who just coffee told. pls and ty

I'm back with my coffee and I can see in its sediments that Rask is tryharding. Also, he has like five scumreads and a soft defense of Syn.

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:41
ngl I got outed once for coffee reads.

the secret is to never drink the putrid garbage that is coffee

:curtain:

baudib1
02-01-2023, 10:42
Don’t kill Ladd until he TMIs dyachei’s alignment.

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:47
think raskol is prob v

dude is having too much fun

its disturbing

pzelda
02-01-2023, 10:49
I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:51
I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).


:computer: :computer: :computer: :computer: :computer: :computer:
:computer: :computer: :computer: :computer: :computer:
:computer:


:computer: :computer:


:computer: :computer: :computer:

pzelda
02-01-2023, 10:52
think raskol is prob v

dude is having too much fun

its disturbing

I find him nervous, trying to land his vote asap.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:54
think raskol is prob v

dude is having too much fun

its disturbing

#dontplaytoomuchdon'trandwolfnoburnout

#yeetpzelda

pzelda
02-01-2023, 10:55
:computer: :computer: :computer: :computer: :computer: :computer:
:computer: :computer: :computer: :computer: :computer:
:computer:


:computer: :computer:


:computer: :computer: :computer:


It means

V - HK
Null - everyone else

Visor
02-01-2023, 10:56
I find him nervous, trying to land his vote asap.

how

he didn't vote till post 109

multiple people voted earlier than him

i don't get how you find him nervous or trying to land his vote asap (or why he would care about that as a wolf?)

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:57
I find him nervous, trying to land his vote asap.

Yet it took me to read your wolfy beans to land it.

Name my find wolfreads pls so we can laugh (before you started miming the titanic, I had no real reads fwiw)

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 10:58
Yet it took me to read your wolfy beans to land it.

Name my find wolfreads pls so we can laugh (before you started miming the titanic, I had no real reads fwiw)

*five

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 10:59
What is my way of solving? How would you know? I mostly makes reads off interacting.

I'd say you have a tendency of making mountains out of molehills, at least during this early stage of the game you've pushed people with questions and conclusions based on content that to me is completely NAI and Wifom. This is with regards to your treatment of Syn and Hollowkatt up to this point.

Yes, content needs to happen for the game to start, so in that regard I'm greatful that you're throwing stuff around, but I don't really see anything as helpful to actually find anyone.

I'm sorry for making you my enemy before the game even started!!!

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 11:00
Visor: I am entirely pocketed btw. good job

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 11:03
oh you're right

wisdom pal what is u doin

:computer:

C'mon now Visor I'm sure Syn being a wolf for complaining about walls in a game that started with 3 pages of roflmao copy pasta-walls and that he's rusty from not playing in 1+ years isn't a hill you're willing to die on. ^^

pzelda
02-01-2023, 11:04
#dontplaytoomuchdon'trandwolfnoburnout

#yeetpzelda


how

he didn't vote till post 109

multiple people voted earlier than him

i don't get how you find him nervous or trying to land his vote asap (or why he would care about that as a wolf?)

Ok, my bad. Just called bunch of people wolves before that vote.
Nervous or Eager, might be both. But right now (and I might be biased) it looks like he's trying too hard to get into the game and maybe get townread by other players while dealing out the minimal amount of townreads himself.
Honestly, it's little early for reads like this, but it is my first impression of Rask.

Visor
02-01-2023, 11:04
Visor: I am entirely pocketed btw. good job

:curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain:
:curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain:
:curtain:


:curtain: :curtain:


:curtain: :curtain: :curtain:

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 11:05
So, Baudib and Syn are +1 on the -10/+10 scale.
I don't have anything else. Should I?
Rask and Visor have been active enough and they're (to me) quite obviously not w/w but other than that I don't really have much on either.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 11:06
I'd say you have a tendency of making mountains out of molehills, at least during this early stage of the game you've pushed people with questions and conclusions based on content that to me is completely NAI and Wifom. This is with regards to your treatment of Syn and Hollowkatt up to this point.

Yes, content needs to happen for the game to start, so in that regard I'm greatful that you're throwing stuff around, but I don't really see anything as helpful to actually find anyone.

I'm sorry for making you my enemy before the game even started!!!

Fellas is it ok to play mafia in a game of mafia.

pzelda
02-01-2023, 11:06
Yet it took me to read your wolfy beans to land it.

Name my find wolfreads pls so we can laugh (before you started miming the titanic, I had no real reads fwiw)

Ok, this changes situation. I'm half-taking my previous comment back.

Visor
02-01-2023, 11:06
C'mon now Visor I'm sure Syn being a wolf for complaining about walls in a game that started with 3 pages of roflmao copy pasta-walls and that he's rusty from not playing in 1+ years isn't a hill you're willing to die on. ^^

i don't think it makes him a wolf, i don't think it makes him anything

seems completely nai to me

which is why people townreading him for it feels weird to me

pzelda
02-01-2023, 11:10
Talking about tryharding, list of reads size of a house might be my next post. Or not.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 11:12
:curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain:
:curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain: :curtain:
:curtain:


:curtain: :curtain:


:curtain: :curtain: :curtain:



:stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare:
:stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare:
:stare:


:stare: :stare:


:stare: :stare: :stare:

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 11:15
Fellas is it ok to play mafia in a game of mafia.

I'm just pointing out that I have a vibe that we might not see each other eye to eye later on and that it doesn't make any of us wolves ^^

I'm not lock clearing you yet, but I still think it's a good sign that you're town.

Visor
02-01-2023, 11:16
Fellas is it ok to play mafia in a game of mafia.

Playing mafia is so complicated. If you sat me down and asked me to write out, to the best of my understanding, the Mafia Playbook book, the section for "playing mafia" would look something like this.

MAFIA RULES! IMPORTANT!
1. You can't just be up there and just doin' a mafia like that.
1a. A mafia is when you
1b. Okay well listen. A mafia is when you play the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The villager is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, wolf, that prohibits the wolf from doing, you know, just trying to kill the villager. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the villager is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the wolf, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna vote you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to vote and then don't vote, you have to still vote. You cannot not vote. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, playing motion of the mafia, and then, until you just play it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the vote up here, like this, but then there's the tally you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Renata hasn't been in any games in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in that CFC Hydra Game too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Timsuptonothin Wolf, "CFC Hydra Game." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A mafia is when the villager makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the game and playerlist of
2. Do not do a mafia please.

Visor
02-01-2023, 11:17
:stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare:
:stare: :stare: :stare: :stare: :stare:
:stare:


:stare: :stare:


:stare: :stare: :stare:


dying irl lmao

baudib1
02-01-2023, 11:20
I'm just pointing out that I have a vibe that we might not see each other eye to eye later on and that it doesn't make any of us wolves ^^

I'm not lock clearing you yet, but I still think it's a good sign that you're town.

Ya it’s ok there’s not much going on in this game, other than perhaps the weirdest D1 post I’ve ever seen. You might be my strongest TR but we’re talking 78% or something. Everything is pretty thin at this point.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 11:21
Kill Visor before lylo friendos. He is pulling a Zack.

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 11:56
No hurry but how do you ISO in this forum?
Also is there any way to see post count and who's playing the game (except for OP)?

ladd
02-01-2023, 11:57
Hey guis

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 11:59
LADD HAS JOINED DA HAUS

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 12:00
No hurry but how do you ISO in this forum?
Also is there any way to see post count and who's playing the game (except for OP)?

Click on the thread number of posts in the subforum. You will see a list of people with their post number. Click on that number and you will get their ISO.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 12:00
Hey guis

rough rand Ladd :hide:

Visor
02-01-2023, 12:04
Hey guis

no sap

wolfy

ladd
02-01-2023, 12:06
no sap

wolfy

Just wait until i ghost the thread for 24 hours

Now thats wolfy

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 13:05
https://media.tenor.com/XlVwO1eVVK0AAAAC/waking-up-dan-levy.gif

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 13:14
think raskol is prob v

dude is having too much fun

its disturbing

was rask the one who had the struggling/stilted feel as a wolf or am I mixing him up with someone else?

if he was then I'm inclined to agree with the v lean

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 13:18
bronana
sistrus
famgo

I can work with this!

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 13:20
No thoughts, only work and being tired! I expect to hype up during the day ^^

Syn's maybe town. Don't give it too much cred though, we haven't played in ages and last time he fooled me as wolf.

why

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 13:21
So we're still missing
Dya
Ender
SK
Logic

Noted
Logic come here we're supposed to be masons!!!

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 13:22
why

It was pure gut feel and probably a bit of tilt thinking that Baudib's sus on him was bad :P

baudib1
02-01-2023, 13:22
ladd

Thoughts so far?

I think everyone shouldn’t weigh in on HollowKatt btw

baudib1
02-01-2023, 13:23
ladd

Thoughts so far?

I think everyone shouldn’t weigh in on HollowKatt btw

Should*

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 13:49
sap

EnderWiggin
02-01-2023, 14:01
Vote: Hollowkatt

Unvote: Raskol
Unvote: Baudib
Unvote: YOLO

EnderWiggin
02-01-2023, 14:02
Actually, that probably counts as a post and therefore ruins my whole joke.

I shouldn't have posted that.

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 14:05
I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I’m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven’t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I’m not sneaking away to post at work lul

EnderWiggin
02-01-2023, 14:06
I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I’m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven’t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I’m not sneaking away to post at work lul

You're not allowed to steal my reads list.

That's illegal.

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 14:13
I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I’m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven’t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I’m not sneaking away to post at work lul

this made me chuckle and am therefore biased to agree with it

baudib1
02-01-2023, 14:15
I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I’m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven’t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I’m not sneaking away to post at work lul

listen bae

I’m not saying I would kill you today or even tomorrow but this post is lacking in swag imo.

glgl

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 14:18
and ya afaik hk sometimes makes off the wall comments regardless of alignment

what bothers me is how he went radio silent after getting heat for it though

realistically the timing can be purely coincidental but that's just how it has me feeling atm

EnderWiggin
02-01-2023, 14:19
and ya afaik hk sometimes makes off the wall comments regardless of alignment

what bothers me is how he went radio silent after getting heat for it though

realistically the timing can be purely coincidental but that's just how it has me feeling atm

Also the read feels off for town HK IMO.

Imo.

EnderWiggin
02-01-2023, 14:20
I realise Ephe has a few posts and I have yet to have a read on them, but they kind-of agree with my HK take so I'm dumping them in the "Might be sprinkled town" basket?

baudib1
02-01-2023, 14:27
I realise Ephe has a few posts and I have yet to have a read on them, but they kind-of agree with my HK take so I'm dumping them in the "Might be sprinkled town" basket?

I have them as lightly townie but talking about someone’s meta is the most role-neutral thing ever.

EnderWiggin
02-01-2023, 14:32
I have them as lightly townie but talking about someone’s meta is the most role-neutral thing ever.

It's more about the take itself rather than talking about meta. Specifically poking at an aspect of it others hadn't mentioned.

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 14:33
Vote: Ladd

dyachei
02-01-2023, 15:04
I think sunbae broke the org because I didn't rand wolf

@rask take note. It can be done!

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:13
I too think HK's comment is NAI rn. If I had to force a read I would lean slightly villa about it just because I think w!HK would be more selfaware. but then again there are wifom levels and basically youcangetawaywitheverythingshit.gif. So it doesn't seem productive or wise to force a read there. Who will try to push and defend him out of it is more interesting in italics.

All this to say baudib's request for stance about it is meh.

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:14
I think sunbae broke the org because I didn't rand wolf

@rask take note. It can be done!

lmao. Tell that to Ladd :creep:

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:15
for legal purpose Dia, this is a joke. I have no read on Ladd aorn lol

pzelda
02-01-2023, 15:15
I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I?m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven?t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I?m not sneaking away to post at work lul

I like these reads and that they're not based on meta. There is some meta included, but it is site meta, if I understand it correctly. They're the first takes in this game I have some inclination to sheep and that makes me v lean Yolo.

Also, regarding my earlier clash with Rask, I reread it and on the second look he just looks like having fun and I v?s the one overreacting. I guess I will need to see more before making a proper take.

Town leans: HK, Yolo
Null: Everyone else

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 15:17
sup dya

dyachei
02-01-2023, 15:18
sup dya

sup. long time no play

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:18
I too think HK's comment is NAI rn. If I had to force a read I would lean slightly villa about it just because I think w!HK would be more selfaware. but then again there are wifom levels and basically youcangetawaywitheverythingshit.gif. So it doesn't seem productive or wise to force a read there. Who will try to push and defend him out of it is more interesting in italics.

All this to say baudib's request for stance about it is meh.

A focus reader might see this is contradictory. I'd say it mostly lies in playstyle differences (baudib's prolly more proactive than me)

His request might not be so meh lol.

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 15:19
Also the read feels off for town HK IMO.

Imo.

can you elaborate on this?

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 15:21
sup. long time no play

very long time even! glad I managed to make just enough time for it seeing how there are a bunch of cool peeps in this list

here's to a fun one ~:cheers:

pzelda
02-01-2023, 15:22
sup. long time no play

Same here, kinda. I'm glad to see more and more familiar faces in this game.

Ephemeral
02-01-2023, 15:23
A focus reader might see this is contradictory. I'd say it mostly lies in playstyle differences (baudib's prolly more proactive than me)

His request might not be so meh lol.

it's fine imo

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:24
in all honnestly, I am more struggling with the explanation of the read (from HK about Syn), ie not only using meta, but also bringing an explanation itt in the first place, than the read itself (I have seen HK yolo villa reads D1 countless times)

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:31
yeah I don't powerwolf, soz
tell you what, if you get syn chopped and he's a wolf I'll vote myself the next day till i die.

THis is also more concerning than the read itself tbh.

lolme rereading and trying to parse slots out of such content after I said it is not good to do it. anyway, here we are

dyachei
02-01-2023, 15:32
I've skimmed the thread but I dont really have any reads yet.

whats going on with hk rask?

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 15:36
I've skimmed the thread but I dont really have any reads yet.

whats going on with hk rask?

Syn made a couple of weird openers. Baudib SR them, HK called Syn town very confidently on the otherside. People are taking stances out of it. Read on from the lower half of page 3 iirc (on 20ppp)

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 16:06
pzelda: why are you TRing HK?

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 16:22
pzelda: why are you TRing HK?

by that I mean, is there more than what you posted earlier ("same reaction to Syn's entrance")?

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 16:52
Dya v :3

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 16:57
I guess we need to follow up here.


Hollowkatt, can you explain the following?

1. On a scale of 1-10, how serious were you?
2. If the answer is above 1, how could you ever be so confident on a read that thin?
3. What would you expect Syn to look like in two posts as a wolf?

1. deadly serious
2. I have the confidence and ego of a mediocre white man
3. I don't expect wolf syn to be identified in two posts.

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 17:06
and ya afaik hk sometimes makes off the wall comments regardless of alignment

what bothers me is how he went radio silent after getting heat for it though

realistically the timing can be purely coincidental but that's just how it has me feeling atm

I went to bed what the fuck

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 17:48
Times like this I wish bronana from the syndicate was here, feels like he?d have the game solved ages ago

hollowkatt
02-01-2023, 18:50
Times like this I wish bronana from the syndicate was here, feels like he?d have the game solved ages ago

and I wish I was a little bit taller and yet here we both are.

baudib1
02-01-2023, 19:10
Vote: hollowkatt

baudib1
02-01-2023, 19:14
Vote: hollowkatt

Oops

baudib1
02-01-2023, 19:16
Vote: hollowkatt

ladd
02-01-2023, 19:27
ladd

Thoughts so far?

I think everyone shouldn?t weigh in on HollowKatt btw

https://media.giphy.com/media/4ahFliSdvT3iIgjq6k/giphy.gif

ladd
02-01-2023, 19:30
real talk - i am gonna have ~0 time d1 but i'll try to do enough to make myself somewhat readable just out of fairness


i did manage to skim the thread while on breaks since it's not much and i don't have anything groundbreaking to add

rask does seem like an obvious villager as everyone else has correctly pointed out. hk read on syn seems nonsensical as everyone else has correctly pointed out (btw visor what game were you talking about where hk did something like this as a wolf? you remember?)



if you want a fun take - i buy dya first post. i generally think those posts are nai but i just soul read this one villa

ladd
02-01-2023, 19:32
3. I don't expect wolf syn to be identified in two posts.

so why do you expect to be able to identify villa syn in 2 post?

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 19:42
I also soulread dya?s entrance as pure

I?m down to YOLO and add steam to the ?let?s lockclear dya off 1 post? train, with the caveat that we sus ladd/Wisdom if wrong and not me :2thumbsup:

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 19:52
rask does seem like an obvious villager as everyone else has correctly pointed out.

OK, I have a clear skill issue.

https://media.tenor.com/H0gVDPNWSbgAAAAC/hat-tip.gif


if you want a fun take - i buy dya first post. i generally think those posts are nai but i just soul read this one villa

+1. Maybe the exclamation mark (unusual for Dya afaik), but I read that post as guenine too. Don't quote me on this when they flip wolf, quote Ladd. (ie. I have made myself a promise to stop dumb micro-reads)

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 19:53
note to self: F5 before posting

YOLOSWAG
02-01-2023, 19:55
YOLOSWAG 🤝 Rask
Blaming ladd for our wrong reads

dyachei
02-01-2023, 20:02
didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

Raskolnikov
02-01-2023, 20:05
"as everyone has correctly pointed out".

NGL, that "correctly" doesn't suit well with me rn but I won't make a big drama out of it. for now. You may proceed Ladd.

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 20:09
I also soulread dya?s entrance as pure

I?m down to YOLO and add steam to the ?let?s lockclear dya off 1 post? train, with the caveat that we sus ladd/Wisdom if wrong and not me :2thumbsup:

YOLO/Dya w/w confirmed!

baudib1
02-01-2023, 20:31
Vote: Syn

Changed my mind

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 20:36
Sing it with me!
*pom poms*
Ladd-is-a-wolf!
Ladd-is-a-wolf!

Syn
02-01-2023, 20:51
No thoughts, only work and being tired! I expect to hype up during the day ^^

Syn's maybe town. Don't give it too much cred though, we haven't played in ages and last time he fooled me as wolf.

when I make you laugh, it's over for everyone

Syn
02-01-2023, 20:51
Good morning,
welp I guess random walls are gifs for old people now.

when you complain about copy-pasta walls, you get wolf-read :(

Syn
02-01-2023, 20:53
pzelda

26340

https://media.tenor.com/IOqlNsLYVAgAAAAM/well-so-im-done.gif

Syn
02-01-2023, 20:53
Multiple people wanting give Syn town points for ~ nothing sure is something.

it's provocative

it gets the people going

Syn
02-01-2023, 20:56
I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).

fake read tbh

noraplus
02-01-2023, 20:57
Who was it that said YOLO is percentage points over rand to be a wolf? I think that?s correct. Him not responding to my post saying I wanted to be w/w with him feels off.

oh hey that was me!

i only said it because their "wow there are so many shitposts" post seemed pretty lame

because 1. no shit?

and 2. they weren't even shitposting themself so it seemed kinda "hello fellow kids"

Syn
02-01-2023, 20:57
Fellas is it ok to play mafia in a game of mafia.

no

3chars >:(

noraplus
02-01-2023, 20:59
oh you're right

wisdom pal what is u doin

:computer:

fwiw wisdom basically always makes esoteric early v reads for hard-to-relate-to reasons at the starts of games

Syn
02-01-2023, 21:02
Syn made a couple of weird openers. Baudib SR them, HK called Syn town very confidently on the otherside. People are taking stances out of it. Read on from the lower half of page 3 iirc (on 20ppp)

i thought my opening posts were quite fetch tbh

Syn
02-01-2023, 21:03
I went to bed what the fuck

only a wolf goes to bed after making a confident read

real villagers are too nervous afterward

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 21:04
fwiw wisdom basically always makes esoteric early v reads for hard-to-relate-to reasons at the starts of games

My brain works in mysterious ways!
Wait how much have you played with me? I remember one game tops.

Syn
02-01-2023, 21:05
anyway i changed my mind, my wolf-buddy hk is sparkling town

unvote: hollowkatt

Syn
02-01-2023, 21:06
vote: dyachei

noraplus
02-01-2023, 21:06
So we're still missing
Dya
Ender
SK
Logic

Noted
Logic come here we're supposed to be masons!!!

really, i'm not your designated mason after all this time?

noraplus
02-01-2023, 21:07
My brain works in mysterious ways!
Wait how much have you played with me? I remember one game tops.

i don't remember the exact number but double digits lol

did you already forget

noraplus
02-01-2023, 21:07
ladd

Thoughts so far?

I think everyone shouldn?t weigh in on HollowKatt btw

alright, then i won't weigh in on hk

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 21:10
really, i'm not your designated mason after all this time?

After last game Logic said that Logic & Wisdom is the masons meant to be!
For what it's worth I'm a terrible team player until I get a read that I care about that loud people tries to push the other way.

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 21:10
i don't remember the exact number but double digits lol

did you already forget

Oh my memory is never good, I have "c4" knocking in the back of my head but that's completely untrustable.

noraplus
02-01-2023, 21:11
Should*

i think his syn read was weird but his response to you was worse

like, it was so unprompted, and as his read is getting roasted, instead of defending his read, he goes "let's find out, if i'm wrong it's on me"

most villagers i know would elaborate on the damn read lol

felt like he was more focused on going "i'm being bold and passionate about my read" than actually talking and thinking about syn's alignment

noraplus
02-01-2023, 21:12
Oh my memory is never good, I have "c4" knocking in the back of my head but that's completely untrustable.

trust your memory lol

tfw you're literally an outed alt and the one person in the game who ever played with you forgets

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 21:14
trust your memory lol

tfw you're literally an outed alt and the one person in the game who ever played with you forgets

But you didn't do your signature "Wisdom is obvious town" :wowee:

noraplus
02-01-2023, 21:16
wisdom is obvious town

wdym

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 21:18
wdym

Touch? xD <3

Wisdom
02-01-2023, 21:18
Touch? xD <3

Touch?!