Sweet Realistic Medieval Combat (Mount and Blade)

[Graphic]

It may not be intended to offend but it will offend, and you knew that when you selected it as a name. It causes disruptions and servers don't want to be seen as endorsing racism, so the bans were inevitable and most likely expected on your part.

You tried to troll and went too far.

[Hooahguy]

Yeah dude, did you honestly think that wouldnt get you banned?

[Prussian to the Iron]

Yeah dude, did you honestly think that wouldnt get you banned?


I mean, I wouldn't ban someone for it. I wouldn't ban except if they disrupt gameplay. The internet is no place to be overly sensitive to trivial matters like a screen name.

[Crazed Rabbit]

PI, allowing racist crap like your screen name creates a hostile environment for black gamers and others who do face racism in their life. The screenname, by virtue of just showing up on the server list, encourages more racism. It's not trivial for the people who have to experience it.

The people who run the servers obviously do not a 'Call of Duty' type multiplayer experience for people (swearing, racism, sexism, etc.). They want a welcoming environment for everyone. If I ran a server I would've banned you.


it's just the first thing that came to mind.

Think Harder.

Crazed Rabbit

[Kekvit Irae]

The thing is, there is no such thing as "Freedom of Speech" on the internet. Servers are private entities, and thus are exempt from such confines. A server owner can ban you or anyone else for any reason, even for "I don't like you." Getting banned for an offensive username is quite justified. Think of it from a server owner's perspective: How would other prospective players feel if the owner condoned such behavior? Losing players means that the server wont be as filled, and word-of-mouth removes any chance of sponsorships or advertising to keep the server afloat.

[Prussian to the Iron]

I wasn't aware that the Orgah's were so sensitive and PC nowadays.

[Hooahguy]

It has nothing to do with being PC. It has everything to do with being a sensible human being. I mean come on, you just graduated high school, right? That means college next year, and in four years, you're totally on your own. You gotta think about these things. Part of growing up.

What you did is like having "I_love_hitler" as a username, and then not expecting Jews to get offended.

[Prussian to the Iron]

What you did is like having "I_love_hitler" as a username, and then not expecting Jews to get offended.

I'm Jewish, and I wouldn't be offended. It's clearly not meant in a serious manner, if it were, I wouldn't know it, and even if I did know that it was serious, I would man up and not care.

[Hooahguy]

I know you are Jewish, and you might not care. But most likely, someone else would. I would, as someone who lost family in the Holocaust. And you cant hold everyone to your standards. You might not care and "man up" but you cant tell someone to do that as well.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I wasn't aware that the Orgah's were so sensitive and PC nowadays.

It has always been Org policy to be respectful towards all people.


I'm Jewish, and I wouldn't be offended. It's clearly not meant in a serious manner, if it were, I wouldn't know it, and even if I did know that it was serious, I would man up and not care.

This isn't about you.

Being respectful of others means caring for how they will feel.

CR

[rajpoot]

I'm Jewish, and I wouldn't be offended. It's clearly not meant in a serious manner, if it were, I wouldn't know it, and even if I did know that it was serious, I would man up and not care.

That is a very mature attitude.
But be a little more mature and realise that not every can be as mature about these things as you.

[Kekvit Irae]

*munches popcorn*

[Hooahguy]

Alright guys, I think we can lay off him now. I think he's learned his lesson.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Back to Mount and Blade:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,230360.0.html

Event Rules:
Each clan participating should sign up players participating from their clan (10 players per clan are guaranteed have a slot + reserve players can fill up empty places in case some clan doesn't have 10 players or there's still room for more players).
Reserve players may only play if there's room after every clan's 10 players are on the server. Priority 1 clan's reserves fill up empty places first, then priority 2.
Each clan leader should sign up their clan and the 10 chosen top priority players using the template.
More rules might be added later.

Match Rules:
Running away/hiding to delay round is not allowed, do a suicidal attack instead and let people play and have fun!
Reserve players may only play if there's players missing from a team (game crashes, etc.)
You should aim for max 3/10 archers and 2/10 cavalry from each clan.
Round length is 6min.
There will be a spawn switch after every 5 rounds, and factions will be changed every 10 rounds.
More rules might be added later.

Map: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,213484.msg5093653.html#msg5093653

Team 1.
Apis Europae 10 (+2)
Heroes 10
Herr der Ringe 8
Polish Eagles 10 (+5)
Black Banner 10 (+5)
Guard of Istiniar 10 (+8)
Deutschritter 10
Warsong Clan 10
Brethren Crusaders 9
Refeseseseseseseses 10
Sword of Valor 3 (+7)
Total: 100 (+27)
Team 2.
Renegades 10
Vikings of Niflheim 10 (+?)
Korpi 8
TnT 10 (+2)
Les Chevaliers d'Honneur 10 (+2)
The Kindom of Swadia 10
Einherjar 10
22nd Battalion 5
Court of Reveran 10
Wolfpack 10
Royaume de Bourgogne 7 (+3)
Total: 100 (+7)

A huge clan battle - looks pretty fun.

The first one (with screenshots and stuff):
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,221266.msg5303134.html#msg5303134

CR

[johnhughthom]

Latest version of Prophesy of Pendor (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,126952.0.html) just released.

[Hooahguy]

YES

[Monk]

Latest version of Prophesy of Pendor (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,126952.0.html) just released.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3r5WQKmoUs

Now if only i had time to actually play it again. Maybe one day.

[Centurion1]

pi message me i didnt see it.

[Graphic]

I need some tips for vanilla/Khergit.

I was really addicted but now I'm starting to get bored because I'm not really advancing. I have a crappy fief way out in the middle of nowhere that's impossible to defend so it's constantly looted.

I'm not really sure what I'm doing when it comes to my relationships with my fellow Khergit lords. 5 or so really like me (have the khan over 20 now). Rest are indifferent. I never get considered for new conquered fiefs. Any tips on what to do so I am? Also I have a lady over 20 and nothing ever happens there either.

Ever since I became a vassal my routine has basically been: pillage an enemy town, sell the goods, go visit the lady (she wants to see me constantly, its getting annoying especially since nothing's happening), occasionally win a tournament. Help a fellow lord(s) take a castle/city if I see them. Rinse and repeat.

[Veho Nex]

I need some tips for vanilla/Khergit.

I was really addicted but now I'm starting to get bored because I'm not really advancing. I have a crappy fief way out in the middle of nowhere that's impossible to defend so it's constantly looted.

I'm not really sure what I'm doing when it comes to my relationships with my fellow Khergit lords. 5 or so really like me (have the khan over 20 now). Rest are indifferent. I never get considered for new conquered fiefs. Any tips on what to do so I am? Also I have a lady over 20 and nothing ever happens there either.

Ever since I became a vassal my routine has basically been: pillage an enemy town, sell the goods, go visit the lady (she wants to see me constantly, its getting annoying especially since nothing's happening), occasionally win a tournament. Help a fellow lord(s) take a castle/city if I see them. Rinse and repeat.

Look at dis scrub ; )

[rajpoot]

Ever since I became a vassal my routine has basically been: pillage an enemy town, sell the goods, go visit the lady (she wants to see me constantly, its getting annoying especially since nothing's happening), occasionally win a tournament.

You need a hot-wine mod. ~;)

In all seriousness, stick around your fief and defend it, and try to conquer more places. Specially cities/villages since they provide more income. When anyone captures a new fief in a war, go around chatting with other lords, you get an option to see who they support for the new fief. Also let your king know that you want the new fief etc.
As for the lady, go around and find some troubadours (and their counterparts for different kingdoms) and learn poems from them. Next time you meet her recite them for her. Once relationship reaches 100 you can marry her and make her your minister.

[johnhughthom]

Remember to talk to every Lord that was involved in a battle with you, you get a small increase to relations with them, if a Lord is having a feast, pop in and talk to the host, you get a small boost for that too. Fiefs are given out based on your Renown and relationship with the King, once you become a Lord it's harder to get quests for relations, so you need to boost this as much as possible during the merc stage. Since you're playing vanilla, I guess the next stage is to look around for a weakly defended castle and take it yourself, then ask the King for it, I've never been turned down in that situation.

[Voigtkampf]

Also I have a lady over 20 and nothing ever happens there either.

Many have been plagued by this problem and found no relief. :on_panda:

[Veho Nex]

Many have been plagued by this problem and found no relief. :on_panda:

ZING!

[Centurion1]

damn i loved this game havent played in a year and now im tempted.

[Major Robert Dump]

Me too now that te Last Days are out

Hats off to Veho Nex for sending me prophecy of pendor while I was in afghanistan

[Prussian to the Iron]

I started playing Floris. God this is difficult. And the lord I'm serving under keeps getting us beaten, which is annoying because I get captured and he doesn't, forcing me to go all the way back to his castle. He did get captured one time though, and I had to do a jailbreak to free him, which was really cool.

One thing I wish was in this game was a shield bash. It seems impossible to me to get somebody off of me that keeps attacking while I have my shield up. It's just blocking until my shield breaks really. The kick is so limited in range and aim that it's near useless, if we had a shield bash to knock back and maybe stun them for a second it would make infantry combat a lot more fun IMO. Then again, I'm pretty bad at infantry combat (not terrible, I still do well in battles, but in multiplayer especially I could be a lot better).

[rajpoot]

The way see it infantry combat is supposed to be just as grueling. The foot soldier's life was always far tougher than that of the mounted soldier, and the risk of a sudden death was far greater. There was no charging the enemies and knocking them down, each foe had to be met individually, and if one got too far ahead in the foray and some enemy got behind you, then the end must have come quickly.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

There is that foot kick. But I can't remember whether it was possible to use it when you protected yourself with a shield.

[Prussian to the Iron]

There is that foot kick. But I can't remember whether it was possible to use it when you protected yourself with a shield.

I believe you swing your arms out when you do it, in which case it wouldn't be. But it's so short range and so ineffective 99% of the time.

[Graphic]

I started playing Floris. God this is difficult.

Nearly all mods seem to be stupidly difficult which is why I've mostly stayed away. And I don't mean so hard that I can't take it, but literally hard in the way that is stupid. Mostly in the form of extremely powerful and abundant bandits in the early game. I wouldn't be surprised if these mods required you to carefully min-max your character skills in order to have a change of survival late game. Such pressure at all times isn't fun to me.

I'd love some mods that just add content and don't fiddle with game balance.

[johnhughthom]

The problem is that once you play the game for a decent length of time, it becomes pointlessly easy. Some mods do have difficulty for the sake of difficulty though, and don't fix what many people consider poor game mechanics because it would "make the game easier". I do agree that simply adding a load more enemies is just lazy design, Prophesy of Pendor is a good example of a mod that doesn't go this route. Yes, it does have huge armies, but you don't have to face them at low level. It still has groups of 3-6 level 1 looters, though they are tougher than native's, possessing some proper weapons and not just rocks and sticks. Personally I think Pendor is better balanced than native, there is a challenge to be had whatever your level, whatever your skill. Though their refusal to implement pre-battle orders does annoy me, especially in those forest battles with tiny maps, where the enemy cavalry reaches you before you can get your troops sorted. Difficulty for the sake of it, like I mentioned earlier.

[Hooahguy]

The only thing that I dont really like about M&B is that late game it gets very easy, even with the P&P mod. In my last game in P&P I had an army of 400. Crushed every army who opposed me. Besides the Noldor and those massive Jatu armies, but besides that, the game was pretty dull. I would defeat multiple enemy armies of around 150, then I would be patrolling, and find a multitude of 50 men armies spread across the area. Too easy! I wish a system could be put in place that enabled the AI to make larger armies faster.

[Prussian to the Iron]

The only thing that I dont really like about M&B is that late game it gets very easy, even with the P&P mod. In my last game in P&P I had an army of 400. Crushed every army who opposed me. Besides the Noldor and those massive Jatu armies, but besides that, the game was pretty dull. I would defeat multiple enemy armies of around 150, then I would be patrolling, and find a multitude of 50 men armies spread across the area. Too easy! I wish a system could be put in place that enabled the AI to make larger armies faster.

That sounds like something that could actually be edited fairly simply in the .txt files. I no longer remember where or what to edit, but I'm sure you could find the original taleworlds thread and edit it yourself to give lords larger armies.

[Graphic]

Yay! I finally got enough votes amongst my fellow Noyan to grant me a castle. Jemeyyed castle which is perfect. Close to home. And then we make peace with the Saracens about 4 hours game time later. It even comes with a massive garrison.

So happy right now.

[Hooahguy]

You have much to learn, young grasshopper.

Now secede and start Graphicphalia.

[Beskar]

Makes me tempted to give this a whirl. What mods do you recommend? It looks like Pendor is one to look out for.

[johnhughthom]

You should definitely try Pendor, as well as being a challenge, it is one of the most polished mods I've ever played. I have linked the latest release further up the page, in the unlikely event that you read this.

[Beskar]

You should definitely try Pendor, as well as being a challenge, it is one of the most polished mods I've ever played. I have linked the latest release further up the page, in the unlikely event that you read this.

I have read this. :tongue: Will download it tomorrow.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Floris is getting funner. I made it to rank 5 cavalry in a Swadian lords army, but since Swadia is going to cease to exist soon I decided to jump ship (I deserted because, despite the relationship hit, the equipment was too good to give up) to the Sarranids (they've been my favorite since Warband's release and have a lot of territory, unlike the Swadians who at this point have no towns and only a couple castles). Only thing I don't like about the rank system in Floris is that despite me riding into camp with an armored horse, a full helm, with plate armor (I think...it has over 50 body armor points in any case) and metal boots, I start off at the bottom of the chain again. Which will be only temporary of course, but it is still a setback and it'd be nice if there was a way the new lord could consider at least starting me off as elite infantry or a low-level cavalry.

Also, does anyone know why I would have a penalty to my riding skill? my agility is 16, but my riding skill number is highlighted red and I can't advance it to 5. It did the same thing when my agility was 12 until I got it to 15, at which point I could advance my riding skill to 4. Help?

[Graphic]

You have much to learn, young grasshopper.

Now secede and start Graphicphalia.

I don't want to start a new kingdom, I want to usurp the Khan.

[rajpoot]

I don't want to start a new kingdom, I want to usurp the Khan.

You cannot become a king unless you start a new kingdom, the only way to remove the Khan is to use the pretender, and in that case you'll still be stuck as a lord.

[Graphic]

that#sucks

[rajpoot]

that#sucks

It's actually kind of logical you know. Lords will not support anyone who does not have atleast some claim to a kingdom. The player character starts out independent and has not claim to any kingdom. So the only way to become a king, is to start a new kingdom.
AFAIK, it's always been implied in M&B 'lore' that the player character will unite Calradia and restore the long forgotten empire.

[Hooahguy]

And before you start a kingdom, be sure to a) get married and b) send out as many followers as you can to spread word of your kingship. And have high renown.

[johnhughthom]

Also, does anyone know why I would have a penalty to my riding skill? my agility is 16, but my riding skill number is highlighted red and I can't advance it to 5. It did the same thing when my agility was 12 until I got it to 15, at which point I could advance my riding skill to 4. Help?

Heavy armour penalty?

[rajpoot]

Heavy armour penalty?

No no, skills can only be increased till a factor of the attribute they depend on. For every 3 point increase in attrib you can increase skill by 1 point.

[johnhughthom]

No no, skills can only be increased till a factor of the attribute they depend on. For every 3 point increase in attrib you can increase skill by 1 point.

His agility is 16, and he can't increase it to 5, which he should be able to. A stat in red indicates there is some sort of penalty. I haven't played Floris, so I don't know how penalties work there, I know Brytenwalda penalises certain skills the heavier your armour.

[rajpoot]

His agility is 16, and he can't increase it to 5, which he should be able to. A stat in red indicates there is some sort of penalty. I haven't played Floris, so I don't know how penalties work there, I know Brytenwalda penalises certain skills the heavier your armour.

Oh....
All that I did not know. :sweatdrop:

[Prussian to the Iron]

His agility is 16, and he can't increase it to 5, which he should be able to. A stat in red indicates there is some sort of penalty. I haven't played Floris, so I don't know how penalties work there, I know Brytenwalda penalises certain skills the heavier your armour.

For some reason, it randomly stopped penalizing me. I don't think I really changed anything, and I'm even wearing the same armor and everything. Strange.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's back again somehow...

[Ja'chyra]

The heavier your armour the more penalty to agility unless you have a high enough strength to carry it, do a quick search on the Floris board at taleworlds for more info but I'm sure that's how it works

A quick search turned this up, but it is from a while ago:

The armor penalty is a feature called encumbrance. You can turn this off in your camp menu.

[Graphic]

It's actually kind of logical you know. Lords will not support anyone who does not have atleast some claim to a kingdom. The player character starts out independent and has not claim to any kingdom. So the only way to become a king, is to start a new kingdom.
AFAIK, it's always been implied in M&B 'lore' that the player character will unite Calradia and restore the long forgotten empire.

Logic doesn't apply to M&B feudalism. A noble just married his highborn daughter to a man who grew up as a street urchin, a man who would never ever be made a noble here on earth just because he commanded a modest mercenary company and killed some local bandits.

[Zim]

Forgot how much I enjoyed this one until going on a 20 or so hour binge this last week. I'm still learning things about the game. Never had my infantry stand closer to better repel cavalry until working with a Nord army recently (it was extra fun standing behind my infantry line with a two handed weapon taking out any cavalry that made it past the men). Still playing Diplomacy mod after some 148 hours total game time. Guess it's about time I tried Prophecy of Pendor...

Edit: Gah/ Ended up on the page for regular Mount and Blade, followed the link there to the one for Warband, and it turns out I spent an hour or two downloading an older version. Now I'm at the right page (version 3.5). I see two downloads, 3.5 and 3.51, both about the same size. From that would I be right in assuming I only need to download the latter and that it isn't a patch on 3.5?

On the plus side at least it seems to download much faster from the site the current version is on.

Edit 2: Just had a couple hour session of PoP. Really fun so far. Just slowly building up money and looting/buying armor. Most amusing moment happened after rescuing a Jatu raider. He was way ahead of me in level and I had terrible troops and equipment. I attacked a bandit encampment shortly after and he pretty much soloed it, killing everything before I could reach it.

Most frightening moment was running into 4 rogue knights. I was doing ok at that point and had trained up my troops a few levels. I was equating them with troops like Swadian knights. Big mistake. Those four guys pretty well slaughtered my 20 man force for just one of their's. I was able to retreat, hired some mercs, and came back for them but it was too late.

Still hate track down bandit missions.

[Zim]

Half a year or so in and doing ok. I'm a vassal of the Empire. Funny, I seem to get captured more now that I can build a decent party. I think I'm just taking more risks. ~;p

Killed my first Elf. Lone unwounded guy from a Noldor force I found, and he took down 4 or so adventurers and knights before a whack to the head took him out.

Rescued an apparently unique unit. "Lady Einherjar". Anyone recognize that? Couldn't find anything with a search of the PoP wiki or forums.

[johnhughthom]

I believe that troop is a special Green guys (forget their name) household unit.

[Major Robert Dump]

I have not laughed this much in a long time. This makes me want to buy the new one. I love friendly fire. Make sure and turn the volume up for this one, too funny, especially when the brits or aussies start talking at 7:30, they are far better than the american kids


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5J5LEBVCk

[Zim]

Just had a satisfying moment in PoP luring a Noldor unique spawn into the large mercenary force the faction leader of my employer faction's main rival. 400+ mercenary company gone and a Noldor force rampaging through their territory. :beam:

[TinCow]

Mount and Blade 2! (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/28/its-finally-real-mount-blade-ii/#more-125971)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLB9PlqkONo

Trailer is the graphical and information equivalent of the M&B1 world map, but at least it's coming. I really hope that they make major engine improvements this time. It's such a great game being held back by several massive engine issues.

[rajpoot]

Mount and Blade 2! (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/28/its-finally-real-mount-blade-ii/#more-125971)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLB9PlqkONo

Trailer is the graphical and information equivalent of the M&B1 world map, but at least it's coming. I really hope that they make major engine improvements this time. It's such a great game being held back by several massive engine issues.

:elephant: :elephant: :elephant: :elephant: :elephant:

Besides the fact that I'm very happy, I do hope it has elephants and camels this time.

[Voigtkampf]

The shock and awe when that .jpg soldier appeared... :on_leaf:

[Hooahguy]

M&B with a (hopefully) updated graphics engine would be amazing. Eager for more news.

[Mouzafphaerre]

​
Great news! :elephant:
​

[Gengis]

I always wondered why someone doesnt make a mmorpg like mount and blade, it would be a success.

[Hooahguy]

I always wondered why someone doesnt make a mmorpg like mount and blade, it would be a success.

There kinda already is a mod like that: CRPG mod for Warband. Quite good, actually.

[rajpoot]

So I reinstalled this today and I've been on the lookout for mods which add detailed kingdom management features and more control over armies. Side effect of playing a lot R2TW, I just cannot bear seeing the soldiers rush like they do in M&B now. I need to have control.
Do any such mods exist? Specially one that has a lot of kingdom management?

[Hooahguy]

I found that PoP was decent at this, as was Floris. Not too sure to be honest. Havent played M&B in a while.

[Mailman653]

New Roman mod for M&B: NW; Bello Civili.


Factions

• Fight as one of the two combatants - the Populares (Caesar) or the Optimates (Pompey)!
• Many differences between factions while remaining balanced!

Class system

• Bello Civili will use the NW class system. Each unit class will represent a different cohort within a legion.
• Take the First Cohort, with subclasses like Milites, Optio, Eagle Signifer or Centurio... or join the auxiliary wing as a Gallic Infantry man or Skirmisher.
• Other classes like siege engineers, legionary command staff or mercenaries are available too!

Standards

• A large amount of high-quality, accurate uniforms for each side!
• A large variety of in-game banners for each side!

Weaponry

• A wide array of ancient weapons!
• Fight with gladius, pilum, bows, spears and more!
• Use siege machines like catapults or the scorpion to destroy the enemy troops!

Map environment and atmosphere

• Roman buildings and environment will help to get you into ancient times !
• Temples, insulaes, theaters and more will provide some roman looking surrounding.
• Voice commands and yells will be roman based. Officers will shout their orders in Latin!

http://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8829.0

[rickinator9]

I think they stole those sounds from EB!

What fun is there in only playing with 2 factions anyway?

[Hooahguy]

Wow, it actually does.

[TinCow]

Is anyone still playing this? Would anyone be interested in a M&B server frequented by other Orgahs?

[rajpoot]

I still play. Although I had no idea that servers could be hosted.

[TinCow]

I still play. Although I had no idea that servers could be hosted.

Yes, though only for multiplayer combat, not the campaign map stuff. We're currently discussing it here (http://www.mobiusgamers.org/threads/what-should-we-host.12/) and your input is welcome.

[easytarget]

And now to proudly resurrect an incredibly old thread for the sole purpose of announcing I just bought this in the steam flash sale going on right now. I look forward to jumping in!

[Veho Nex]

And now to proudly resurrect an incredibly old thread for the sole purpose of announcing I just bought this in the steam flash sale going on right now. I look forward to jumping in!

Hoozah!

[easytarget]

I spent about 5 hours so far playing it and I'm having a really good time, I can see though how this is going to take me awhile to get some progression, I don't mind that, I'm just calling out that I can see how this could well be a game I spend a fair amount of time in.

[rajpoot]

I spent about 5 hours so far playing it and I'm having a really good time, I can see though how this is going to take me awhile to get some progression, I don't mind that, I'm just calling out that I can see how this could well be a game I spend a fair amount of time in.

Happens a lot. I confess I've nearly as many hours into Mount and Blade and peripheral mods as I have spent on both Oblivion and Skyrim combined.
And now that Bannerlord is set to come out :elephant:

[easytarget]

Is Bannerlord like M&B 2 basically?

And yes, I can see myself spending A LOT of time in this.

[easytarget]

I lose track of stuff between sessions and forget some of what I'm up to, I see a tab for notes, but can't make heads or tails how to make a note entry, does this game really have no in-game feature for making notes?

[rajpoot]

I lose track of stuff between sessions and forget some of what I'm up to, I see a tab for notes, but can't make heads or tails how to make a note entry, does this game really have no in-game feature for making notes?

No I'm afraid you can't take notes. You just have to remember everything going on in the world (or rely on the automated notes feature), which can be a bit overwhelming later in the game when you have your own kingdom.
Till date Bannerlord appears to be like M&B Warband, just with more features and a comprehensive graphical overhaul. However considering the time they are taking to develop it, I'll wager it is much much more. You should check out their blog posts, they make for a fun read. :beam:

[easytarget]

Ok, then how about this then, what is the quick and dirty on giving commands to your troops?

I've not found anyway to practice this, you're just thrown into battles with no way to get it sorted really. I need to be able to tell my ranged units to sit back and do their work from afar.

I've figured out you can hit backspace to bring up the command menu (such as it is), but I don't see anything that tells them to sit tight and fight at a distance.

So, found the command, hit backspace, brings up overlay command menu that is hard to see and manage real time in a battle. Work in progress.

[edyzmedieval]

If you guys want some info on Mount & Blade 2 - Bannerlord, check out their blog - https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord

So yes, M&B 2 is coming :yes:

[easytarget]

Yep, I saw that as well. But it's got to be a little ways out, I didn't notice an ETA. Maybe I missed it.

At any rate, at least I've finally gotten around to discovering Warband! ha!

[edyzmedieval]

No precise ETA yet, except for somewhere in 2015.

[Hooahguy]

Also the Napoleonic DLC is quite a lot of fun as well! Bought it when it first came out but started it up again today, I forgot how much fun it is.

[rajpoot]

Basic troop commands are available in Warband vanilla. There used to be mods that added formations (in fact I think the name of the mod was Formations), which were of limited use.
Get the Napoleonic DLC but don't waste a dime on With Fire and Sword. Awful addon and free mods like Prophecy of Pendor are a lot better as far as content is concerned.

[Veho Nex]

I agree 100% with rajpoot in regards to with fire and sword. Unless you are a fan of the books or badly represented time frame, dont waste a dime on it.

[Slyspy]

But do play Prophecy of Pendor. I still sink much time into M&B thanks to that mod.

[easytarget]

Yes, I'm going to make a point of checking that out, thanks for reminding me. So that is the reason then I take it to play M&B some and not just Warband?

[rajpoot]

Yes, I'm going to make a point of checking that out, thanks for reminding me. So that is the reason then I take it to play M&B some and not just Warband?

I'm pretty certain PoP is out for Warband too.
And speaking of mods, don't forget to try out The Last Days. It's a total conversion mod like PoP but it's based on LotR. IIRC The Last Days is available only for M&B at the moment, though they have a Warband version in the works.

[Slyspy]

Yes, I mean playing PoP on Warband. There is no purpose in playing the original M&B any more.

Edit:

Except maybe TLD, which rajpoot has reminded me of. You'll need a specific version though.

[Veho Nex]

Yes, I mean playing PoP on Warband. There is no purpose in playing the original M&B any more.

Edit:

Except maybe TLD, which rajpoot has reminded me of. You'll need a specific version though.

Not anymore, they released a new TLD that works on the latest version of MnB

[Slyspy]

Not anymore, they released a new TLD that works on the latest version of MnB

Great, a version which works with Warband at last, thanks for letting me know!

[easytarget]

Ok, 35 hours in, had some fun, but discovered everything simply takes way too long (that's an individual judgement thing of course).

[rajpoot]

Ok, 35 hours in, had some fun, but discovered everything simply takes way too long (that's an individual judgement thing of course).

Don't give up on it. The combat is awesome. If you feel the gameplay is slow because you're at a lower level, you can give you character a boost by editing the character files (unless you have a thing against cheating in SP games of course).
There's also an excellent tool named something along the lines of TweakM&B that lets you change a ton of small game mechanics, from the amount of tithe paid by villagers to the relations gained, etc. I don't quite remember but I do recall there were many many options that could be used to make quests as easy or as hard as you want.

[easytarget]

Not to worry, I had a good time. But despite what initially looks like some depth is in reality not so much. The battles are indeed quite fun, the strategic map part of the game is the very definition of tedium to me.

It's not that it's not a fine game, but I have limited free time (yeah, who doesn't) and when faced with the choice currently of this or one of many TW games I have going, or just recently my Divinity: Original Sin campaign it's not even a close call.

Again, just personal tastes.

[Veho Nex]

Great, a version which works with Warband at last, thanks for letting me know!

Sorry for misleading you. I didnt mean that it worked with Warband. The game works with the latest version of MnB which is 1.116 or something like that. There is still no TLD mod for warband, any version of it.

[Slyspy]

Sorry for misleading you. I didnt mean that it worked with Warband. The game works with the latest version of MnB which is 1.116 or something like that. There is still no TLD mod for warband, any version of it.

That isn't what their website says.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Apparently a version has been released for Warband and is being actively supported;
http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-last-days/downloads/the-last-days-of-the-third-age-33-warband-patch
https://trello.com/b/ntzYNdEA/the-last-days-of-the-third-age-warband-port

CR

[Veho Nex]

I was not aware of that! Awesome, thanks CR and Slyspy

[rajpoot]

Bannerlord developer video blog. Mainly stuff about their map editor. Seems like a really cool tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obO5sbziqjM&feature=youtu.be

[Veho Nex]

I cant wait for bannerlord. Looks like its going to be a bully game.

[Vuk]

I like what I see. Every game franchise I love is letting me down, so I am praying that this is one that does not. So far, I am very encouraged.

[edyzmedieval]

Viking Conquests DLC for Warband made by Brytenwalda developers. :grin:

https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/VikingConquest

[I of the Storm]

Just got Viking Conquest. Looks good, seems a bit buggy (occasional CTD) and somehow more difficult. But I've only played for an hour or so.

We'll see...

[I of the Storm]

Well, most of the serious CTD bugs seem to have been fixed, it's still quite laggy sometimes.

I'd recommend waiting a month or so before buying, let them patch it once or twice.

[edyzmedieval]

I'm still waiting for Bannerlord...

[edyzmedieval]

Speaking of Bannerlord...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmeRgZFADI

[rajpoot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbaWgLjN6s
Gamescom Preview. They have an awesome in game cam now that you can use to make videos. And a crafting system.
I'm just waiting for the day I can try this out in Vive or Rift.

[Veho Nex]

I need a clean pair of pants now.

[Hooahguy]

The sieges look pretty cool but I think its a weird choice to have board games as the second thing featured. If anything it should have been towards the back, because people arent coming to play what looks to be a version of checkers in M&B.

[rajpoot]

Link (https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/13) to blog explaining some of the stuff in the video. Below are a couple of tidbits I found really exciting.


After this, we see a short clip of the world map and village management. Graphically, we have made huge strides here, to improve the look and feel of Calradia. Though there are also some significant gameplay changes evident here. Castles are now fully integrated with villages, which means that settlement produces goods and has economic impact. The four sides of a village can all be made into different types of production, with the unique option of turning one into a castle.Map
A village with a castle is naturally much more defensible, but the slot is sacrificed that might have been used for something valuable like a salt mine. All of these are reflected on the world map as well, as can be seen in the video.
What's really interesting is that AI Lords start new projects and modify their villages over time, just like the player. So during a long playthrough, the face of the map and nature of various settlements can change significantly, in ways that are fully dependent on the current economic and political situation of the NPCs and their factions.


Beyond this, we offer a look at another new feature in weapon crafting. This fits really well into the sandbox game, by not only providing players with a huge amount of freedom in and connection to the weapon they use but giving us an engine, with which to create unique weaponry in the game world. These items are used for quests and appear variously as significant objects like family heirlooms, to which certain characters may hold special attachment.
The logic of the crafting is simple in that weapons are separated into parts that can be exchanged, with any kind of combination. This also works for axes, polearms etc. One feature not shown in the video is length adjustment; it's actually possible to tweak the exact length of certain parts such as blades to get exactly the kind of weapon you want. All of these parts have physical properties, to which the power of the weapon is directly related. Some fairly serious calculations assess the centre of mass and balance of a weapon, which changes the speed and damage, as well as the timing of the animation itself. This contributes to a unique feel for each weapon, depending on the parts it uses. Naturally, we give the player freedom to name the weapon as well. One of the interesting results of this feature can actually be losing your prized sword and seeing it turn up in the possession of some bandits half way across Calradia!

[rajpoot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P8AYtiaaFE

Where you fight as Arnold Schwarzenegger and learn how to forge the maximum sword.

[Husar]

It looks nice but I wish the forest looked more like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ybCrr8c4g

[edyzmedieval]

Detailed Bannerlord interview with Taleworlds founder. Some beautiful screens too!

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/28/mount-and-blade-2-bannerlord-interview/

[Beskar]

It looks nice but I wish the forest looked more like this:

That is some jerky movement.. I am not one to complain of motion sickness, but that did make me feel unsettled. I think that annoying "blur" effect contributes to it too.

[Husar]

That is some jerky movement.. I am not one to complain of motion sickness, but that did make me feel unsettled. I think that annoying "blur" effect contributes to it too.

It was not the best video I saw of it either, but I hope that you could at least see that the design of the forest itself is very realistic, much like a real forest regarding the layout, the placement of trees, the ground structure, etc.
The point being that I want european forests in all games to look like that from now on, including Total War games. :whip:

[Beskar]

Don't get me wrong, I think the graphics were rather mindblowingly good. At first glance, it actually looks real.

Was just the rest.

[rajpoot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObwq1WaxQ8

[Hooahguy]

The siege gameplay looks really encouraging! So much better than just storming the ladders.

[edyzmedieval]

AH. So nice!

Come on TW, release this faster! :knight:

[edyzmedieval]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2qb66PbUg

[Hooahguy]

This looks amazing. Cant wait to get my hands on it!

[Veho Nex]

Ever wish you could actually get in on the sword-swingin' action on Medieval and crack some skulls? Well now you can!

The game is Mount and Blade, at www.taleworlds.com, and its a realistic combat/rpg game with loads of different weapons and armor. You can even ride down peasantry as a lance couchin' knight!

The demo of the beta is only 35 mbs and the full game only costs $12 (though its in beta currently.)

While content is limited, and the battles are very small by total war standards, the fighting is still fun.

EDIT: Check out page 9 for a small mod I made, HRE and French surcoats for the tournament grouds!

EDIT2: A screenshot, just to spice things up;
https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1259/292if.jpg

Crazed Rabbit

Just felt the need to remind people how long this thread has been running. Also I miss my ol' pal CR.

[Husar]

Just felt the need to remind people how long this thread has been running. Also I miss my ol' pal CR.

Unfortunately, in every topic you post in, my firewall gives me an alarm about a picture called drunk riding on a pig or so, might want to check what's up with that.

[edyzmedieval]

Just felt the need to remind people how long this thread has been running. Also I miss my ol' pal CR.

Right, this thread is around 11 years old... wow. Talk about a loyal fanbase.

[rajpoot]

Right, this thread is around 11 years old... wow. Talk about a loyal fanbase.

And here's to 11 years more. :medievalcheers:

[Vuk]

This is one of the few upcoming games that I actually give a shit about. I am broke and don't really spend money on new games, but I am willing to save up for this one. I used to be that way about TW titles till they sold their soul.

[Mouzafphaerre]

Just felt the need to remind people how long this thread has been running. Also I miss my ol' pal CR.


Right, this thread is around 11 years old... wow. Talk about a loyal fanbase.


And here's to 11 years more. :medievalcheers:

It was with this thread that I first heard about M&B and grabbed it shortly thereafter. Can't wait for Bannerlord :jumping:

[johnhughthom]

It was with this thread that I first heard about M&B and grabbed it shortly thereafter. Can't wait for Bannerlord :jumping:

Me too, kept an eye on this thread for quite a while, then finally plunged in. Been playing ever since.

[edyzmedieval]

http://nichegamer.com/2014/09/01/mount-blade-ii-bannerlord-factions-and-lore/

New factions for Bannelord.



There’s the Vlandians, a tribe whose chieftains have become feudal lords and are renowned for their skills as heavy cavalry. There’s the Sturgians, who colonized the forests of the north and specialize in axe- and sword-armed footmen. The Aserai live in the scrubland and desert oases of the south and fight on both horseback and foot. The Khuzaits, a steppe tribe that conquered the trading cities of the east, make heavy use of horse archers. The Battanians meanwhile are skilled in exploiting their native woodlands, and are deadly in ambushes, be it a shower of arrows or a screaming charge out of the trees. The Empire has spent generations honing the arts of combined-arms warfare, with cataphracts, spear formations, and archers all doing their part on the battlefield.

[Monk]

Bannerlord yessss cannot wait for this game. :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Monk. :bow:

Good to see you around!

[Monk]

Monk. :bow:

Good to see you around!

dude! What up long time no see! Yeah, ive been playing Rome 2 like crazy in my free time and i thought i'd see if anyone was still kicking around these parts. I'm so hyped for bannerlord too. I watched a 30 minute gameplay vid of it on youtube and i got absolutely floored by the seige gameplay. I can't wait.

Do you have me on steam? You should add me!

[edyzmedieval]

PM me your Steam ID, Monk!

[Mouzafphaerre]

Mine is the same, Mouzafphaerre, though I've never used it except for launching my games :laugh4:

Last night I burnt what, 8 hours or something in a brand new WB vanilla toon. Been a couple years!

[edyzmedieval]

Share your Steam IDs around, maybe we can make an Orgah group!

[edyzmedieval]

Gameplay from Bannerlord. :yes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_3el4IAevg&t=20s

[Hooahguy]

This looks so amazing, I hate how its likely going to be at least another year until its released. I still remember the initial announcement back in 2012.

I am really liking the better control of your troops. Much more strategic than before, where I would really just charge my men in and that was it.

[edyzmedieval]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4rC1awiovs

Fancy!

[spmetla]

Looks very good!

[Husar]

Well, it does look good, but German magazine GameStar had a piece about how, given the current progress and the way they tend to rework things over and over, it seems unlikely to arrive in 2019 even and might just come in 2020 or even later. :sweatdrop:

I'm not even really waiting for it because it's like a ghost that pops up now and then but never really materializes. :laugh4:

[edyzmedieval]

https://youtu.be/8ByrC0GoQrE

More!

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Is this a new engine?

[Husar]

Is this a new engine?

To me it looks like the same engine with some minor upgrades.
Not necessarily a bad thing, just don't see why it would be a new engine, it looks very similar to the first game except that everything looks a bit nicer. The textures don't seem all that great though on the world map.

[edyzmedieval]

https://www.pcgamer.com/mount-and-blade-2-bannerlord-is-finally-getting-a-closed-beta/

We're gonna have a closet beta.

[Xantan]

Closed beta for Bannerlord was underway.

https://www.pcgamer.com/mount-and-blade-2-release-date/

[Xantan]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/261550/Mount__Blade_II_Bannerlord/

Available for wishlisting on Steam now. March 2020 release.

[Beskar]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/261550/Mount__Blade_II_Bannerlord/

Available for wishlisting on Steam now. March 2020 release.

I have had it wishlisted for years, but it seems it has updated with a date.

[edyzmedieval]

I finally got one - I got a beta key for Bannerlord!

Currently installing the game, can't wait to try it out tonight.

[edyzmedieval]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2...II_Bannerlord/


31st of March 2020!


Finally, after 10+ years, Mount & Blade Bannerlord will be available on Steam TO PURCHASE! Finally we can play it.

In other words, the game will be released in Early Access which is not something people are happy about but we can't wait any longer.

[Hooahguy]

Wow this is crazy. I remember when it was first announced. I was so young, so innocent. I wonder if this would run on my computer.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Wow this is crazy. I remember when it was first announced. I was so young, so innocent. I wonder if this would run on my computer.

If it is delayed any longer, they will have to write an emulator into the base design of the game... ;-)

[edyzmedieval]

31st of March don't forget gentlemen. :knight:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL_qowsxcXE

[edyzmedieval]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbj56155xMQ

[edyzmedieval]

Aaaand... Bannerlord will be released MONDAY 30th of March!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2...II_Bannerlord/

[Hooahguy]

In addition (https://steamcommunity.com/games/261550/announcements/detail/2084544594680066864), if you buy in the first two weeks you get 10% off plus anyone who owns any previous Mount & Blade title will be eligible for an additional 10% off in some digital stores (hopefully Steam). I just hope I can run it, apparently my CPU is a bit below what the requirements say.

[Hooahguy]

So I played for a little bit. Mechanically it plays really well. The movements are smooth, combat feels really good. Also tried to start a campaign and it looks really polished. The problem is that my computer can only play it on very low and even then I cant have battles larger than 100 otherwise there is a lot of lag. I think its time for an upgrade! Back to Warband for the time being I guess.

Edit: shout out to Beskar for calling me the Internet Explorer of his Steam friends list for still playing Warband.

[edyzmedieval]

Beskar - :laugh4:

180.000 people played Bannerlord today, the biggest release of 2020.

[Hooahguy]

That explains why the Steam store had so many issues in the morning. The reviews seem to be good for the most part minus the occasional glitch. Another thing people have pointed out is that combat seems harder but thats probably just a learning curve. For what its worth, for the couple of battles I played the combat didnt seem too different from Warband.

[Beskar]

Edit: shout out to Beskar for calling me the Internet Explorer of his Steam friends list for still playing Warband.

Friend 1 - Bannerlord
Friend 2 - Bannerlord
Friend 3 - Bannerlord
Friend 4 - Bannerlord
Friend 5 - Bannerlord
Friend 6 - Bannerlord
Friend 7 - Bannerlord
Hooahguy - Warband

[Hooahguy]

I might actually be able to play it via Geforce Now, but Im not sure if my connection is fast enough to allow for smooth playing.

[edyzmedieval]

Friend 1 - Bannerlord
Friend 2 - Bannerlord
Friend 3 - Bannerlord
Friend 4 - Bannerlord
Friend 5 - Bannerlord
Friend 6 - Bannerlord
Friend 7 - Bannerlord
Hooahguy - Warband

:laugh4:

Well, thing is, a lot of people are staying put on Bannerlord because of many bugs. Waiting for the patches.

[edyzmedieval]

So anyways, I started blasting... with arrows in Bannerlord. Played the first few hours, won a tournament, did some merchant activities, quests and the like, really enjoying it.

However it's quite harder to raise money now than in Warband.

[Beskar]

So anyways, I started blasting... with arrows in Bannerlord. Played the first few hours, won a tournament, did some merchant activities, quests and the like, really enjoying it.

However it's quite harder to raise money now than in Warband.

I disagree slightly in overall costs. But items are very expensive, especially bows, but outside of this, it isn't too bad. There is a snowball effect where once you get going, the money starts to flow. There was a rather amusing game bug when it came to fief trading too (which has been fixed). Where you can could buy an entire kingdom for a horse.

I do now also have mods which make some of this aspect easier for me (such as autotrader) and I got BannerlordsTweaks and others which can have some compounding effects which makes it easier.

But the big money maker for me when I first started playing was going as a Mercenary, make all my units archers (or horse archers). These typically got more bang for buck, netting me prisoners which you can ransom off for a lot of money. With mercenary, you also got money for influence gained. So early game, pretty much sitting in a large area as they stomp things and I leeched money. When I got rank 2, turn myself into a vassal and I usually got a city or so early on via a vote. Once you got making good money, you can make wise investments into workshops too. Soon, you end up with a nice passive tick of income rolling you over which can be used to make investments and profits.

[Greyblades]

The big money comes from mercenary work, with about 40 cavalry you can take on merchant caravans for cash and raid enemy villiages for higher tier units, once you get a good enough army to comfortably smash individual lords the loot and ransoms can run up to 40K a go.

Bucellarii and vlandian light cav make a rather nice combo and they are upgradeable from recruits so you can get a lot of them, though the bucellarii can get expensive with both the requisite warhorses and their high upkeep, they are very versatile though.

[Greyblades]

I found the multistrike mod and now I spend my time swinging the biggest blade on a stick I can forge into the back of shield walls.

Thinking of changing the clan name to "reaperman"

[edyzmedieval]

I got a caravan and 2 workshops in Quyaz but still losing money.

[Greyblades]

Yeah the economy is pretty buggy at the moment, trading yourself works fairly well but caravans are very hit and miss, not helped late game when you go to war and your caravans become targets for enemy stacks.

[edyzmedieval]

Also the upkeep of units is quite high, I have a team of experienced warriors and they're about 45 at the moment - 400 gold per day upkeep is quite a lot.

[Greyblades]

Hence the mercenary work, as a mercenary any influence you earn gives you a payout each day, as long as you take action against the enemy even if it is minor like caravan raids or villiager coercion your upkeep will be balanced. Beating up the millitia to recruit higher than average units can help you maintain your numbers without resorting to raw recruits and with enough renown you can turn that merc contract into a vassalage, after which a fiefdom with income will be forthcoming, assuming you can keep your faction from imploding.

[edyzmedieval]

And as if it knew, my daily income has soared to over 700 per day. I added another caravan, making in excess of 1000.

[edyzmedieval]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/261550/announcements/detail/4697762823033752722

One of the major patches in the latest period, M&B Bannerlord 1.4.0.

I stopped playing for a while to let the patches catch up with the game, had some significant memory lags all of a sudden.

[Xantan]

Since the Steam Summer Sale is on, you can grab great discounts for all M&B games - and this includes Bannerlord as well. :yes:

[edyzmedieval]

So I've played a bit recently of Mount & Blade Bannerlord, mainly to "update" my save game to the newest modules and to make sure there are no issues with save game validity.

In a nutshell, the diplomacy improvements are very welcome, finally no more endless wars. Also, you have a significant say in them if you are a vassal, so that's a good point forward. Moreso, they balanced out the money making because it got to ridiculous levels and you had too much money in game.

[Hooahguy]

The go-to faction guide for Bannerlord (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vv6BdPXXLc)

[edyzmedieval]

Sigificant updates for Bannerlord.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aaefhER5X8