Broken Crescent Hotseat: Commanders of the Faithful

[Merlox123]

I would be happy to give you the Turkish Claims of Asia minor, but most of the cities I have that are mostly orthodox have huge amounts of time, and you'd be simply losing more money by garrisoning them, and rebuilding, than just trading with the settlements. I am only disagreeing with you because the Logical side makes No sense.

Also I need to have some way to like, fight the war in Russia like your first plan, So... I say we work together on a 2 sided cease fire / alliance deal with you guys. Or else this will be a very long, VERY long, war. Let's face it, You have bigger fish to fry than keeping a war against the ERE, Even at my capital of Constantinople, I was holding jerusalem and it was only making like.. 300? and it's a city man. you could easily get 2x in a town right by yourself. I just don't see the reason why you are trying to grab lands when they will only hinder your thing, And ofcourse your ignored my first cease fire, which was that I just simply pay you a fee, (Which would be the most profitable way.) but now that you keep on declining, you've lost your crown prince, Ayyubids lost their best generals. The Seljuks will get a nasty sting if they keep on progressing. At what cost of me though? I've lost a crappy army with my bad faction leader. the random prince that i didn't even know about. and a crappy town? The worth of this war isn't even worth it. I saw that when i first came on, and thats why I tried to ally with you all.

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, let's talk about this in private, I just sent you a pm.

by the way, I'm assuming that by 'my first cease fire, which was that I just simply pay you a fee' you mean that you made an in-game diplomatic offer.

I don't remember receiving that - there's a bug in these hotseats where you can't be sure that diplomacy will pop up for the other player. It's usually best to agree everything by pm before using the in-game diplomacy to formalise it.

[deguerra]

will do this tonight

[deguerra]

sorry guys, things are quite busy at the moment. i was hoping to do it last night, but that failed and today will be spent setting things up for christmas tonight (as germans, we celebrate on the evening of the 24th). i may be able to find the time, but if not, can i request an extension?

[phonicsmonkey]

deguerra, have a great xmas and don't worry about it - play the turn when you have a chance.

We're all going to have the same issues over the next week or so, and we've all proved over the last nine months or so that we're committed to the game, so I'm relaxed about turn deadlines over the holiday period.

Just as long as we pick it up again when things get back to normal!

[Merlox123]

I am thinking of starting the BC3 game back up, but at the TW center due to the fact that theres not many players here. I need 16 total. The game has been re-worked on MAJORLY. I put many hours and had many people tell me how i could re-balance the game. Some of the things I did was I removed most spiked groups, and distributed the armies evenly amung all cities. Every nation will start with 10,000. All Brothels / Balista ranges have been destroyed, The Sindh nation has been boosted greatly, due to their dire situation, I have made one of their more inner cities Capital, and upgraded that large town into a small city now! The Small 1 faction Indian border is now heavily fortified against the ghorids. Ghorids are now less intensified against the indian border, distributed around evenly. The Omani's navies are not spread out through every port, and not gathered into massive navies. Over all, Borders Massivly less intensified. The game starts at turn 25!

[deguerra]

hey guys.

very sorry but im having some computer and internet issues atm.

feel free to sub for me/skip me.

sorry again

[phonicsmonkey]

w00t! I fixed my computer! 2nd hand ebay motherboard ftw! :smash:

I also subbed for Oman - ERE is up.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4262

Merlox, you may want to change the name of your faction if you're not actually going to be somebody's Protectorate...it's up to you of course.

[Merlox123]

I'll be free in a short bit. sorry,

[Merlox123]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/LDM/PBM/2008/3/1/0/0/2/5991-BC-29-02.rar

Georgia

[TheFlax]

Kingdom of Jerusalem

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4273

Oh and Merlox, could you please send me a PM when its my turn? (I'm getting tired of asking.)

[rossahh]

Downloaded the save. May take a couple of hours. 7 settlements are under siege, and 1 fort. Plus I have Gaza and Antioch to assault.

[rossahh]

Nothing too major. Broke all the seiges (hardly surprising) and took Gaza due to a mistake by whoever took the last Ayyubid turn.


Elephant battle was easier than expected. The AI attacked the walls after I deployed in the cul-de-sac at the front of the castle. Missle units traded shots, though sporadic damage to all my units due to overshots/misses. Heavy damage to my 2 crossbows, and half the unit lost for most of the Rajput cavalry. Massed cavalry charge to one flank caused a rout and the AI withdrew. The survivors (a fair few, I didn't chase to the routers to reduce my own casulties) were sent north beyond Aleppo.




https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4284

[phonicsmonkey]

EDITsorry guys, I'm going away for a few days and won't get to play this until Monday

I hope you don't mind waiting...:shame:

Stole a few minutes before leaving to play the turn!

Seljuks are up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4289

[barcamartin]

Turn done, Ghazni up.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4294

[Zim]

Ghorids are up.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4300

[_Tristan_]

Please bear with me one or two days... Time for me to get a grasp of the situation and get acquainted with Ghorid might...

[rossahh]

You mean the might of the Ferret Sultanate of course.

[phonicsmonkey]

hi all,

Banzai is not returning, so we need to decide what to do with the Ayyubids. It's not fair on TheFlax to expect him to keep subbing, and not fair on the rest of the players to have a faction which is passed around a group of subs.

I would prefer a human player replacement, but I have exhausted my (small) list of contacts - does anyone know someone who wants to take over?

If we can't find someone by the time their next turn is up I'll switch the faction to AI control.

Likewise, I'm waiting for a pm from 00jebus to find out when he is coming back - I last heard from him on the 8th Jan, but he wasn't clear. If he hasn't replied by the time the next Shah turn is up, I'll switch the faction to AI control.

[_Tristan_]

Rajputs' turn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4309)

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jwwmqg2dg2y/BC-29-09.zip

Who should I pm at this point?

:egypt:

[phonicsmonkey]

I don't think the AI has an org account

Ramses, I tried to dl the file to switch the Ayyubids to AI control but I can't seem to get it from mediafire - the page just hangs and says 'processing download request', but the dl never starts

any chance you could reupload using the org pbm uploader?

[Ramses II CP]

Hmm, I can re-UL it tomorrow. It downloads okay from mediafire for me; I don't mind using the Org uploader, it's just more of a hassle.

:egypt:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

hi all,

Banzai is not returning, so we need to decide what to do with the Ayyubids. It's not fair on TheFlax to expect him to keep subbing, and not fair on the rest of the players to have a faction which is passed around a group of subs.

I would prefer a human player replacement, but I have exhausted my (small) list of contacts - does anyone know someone who wants to take over?

If we can't find someone by the time their next turn is up I'll switch the faction to AI control.

Likewise, I'm waiting for a pm from 00jebus to find out when he is coming back - I last heard from him on the 8th Jan, but he wasn't clear. If he hasn't replied by the time the next Shah turn is up, I'll switch the faction to AI control.

phonicsmonkey, You asked me before whether I want to take Ayyubids and that time I had a feeling that I can't play it. But things have changed a little bit so perhaps I could permanently play them?? No need to switch them to AI.

I probably need their password if I am allowed to play them though. ~:)

[phonicsmonkey]

Welcome to the game Ibn-Khaldun!

We'd love to have you take over the Ayyubids..I have asked one of TheFlax or Zim to pm you the password and a quick status report. Check the first post in the thread for the game rules and for the game history..there's a war going on and an offer on the table from rossahh that hopefully he'll give you a turn to consider...other players may also be in touch.

[rossahh]

Ok, the Ayyubids get (at least) 1 turn off.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok, the Ayyubids get (at least) 1 turn off.

Good to hear! But this all sounds like I'm ... well... already doomed!:sweatdrop::beam:

Anyway, rossahh I would like to know what is that offer.

[rossahh]

It's in the bottom of the court thread but here it is again anyway.


Previously we offered you terms for peace which you ignored. We will offer again, but with the terms matching your decline in military power. We offer you an immediate ceasation of hostilities. If you agree, then Qahira and Bilbeis will be returned after 5 turns have expired. The rest of the captured settlements remain under the control of the Kingdom. The Sultanate is to pay reparations of 2000 florins per turn, until Bilbeis and Qahira are returned.

FYI out of the Ayyubids starting provinces I've taken Gaza, Aqaba, Bilbeis, Qahira, Damascus, Homs and Damyut. The offer basically means I keep Gaza, Aqaba and Damyut and you get Qahira (your largest city) and Bilbeis (your largest castle) if you can scrounge 10,000 florins.

[phonicsmonkey]

Zim has nominated (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2105835&postcount=2) this game for the Best Hotseat Campaign award in the Org HOF awards. Thanks Zim!

I have nominated (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2112716&postcount=7) rossahh and askthepizzaguy for the Best PBM writeup award, for their entries in our story thread.

Don't miss the chance to vote for our game and our players when the polling opens!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The (doomed) Khwarezm Shah is up (00jebus)

http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-29-10.rar

[navarro951]

any faction still available? finally got my MTW2 to work with my new graphics card (its a beut). Lemme know thanx!

[phonicsmonkey]

hey navarro951, thanks for your interest! you just missed out on the Ayyubids but I will put you at the top of the reserve list and let you know if anything comes up..keep watching the game!

[navarro951]

haha sure thing im all up to date read all the history of the turns and what not ill keep a close eye, thanks!

[phonicsmonkey]

yay, someone outside the game reads my turn updates!

vote for us in the Org HOF awards!

[navarro951]

o sure thing ill do that now, from the looks of it this game deserves it.

[00jebus]

*shocked*

I'm not dead yet?... done

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4355

[Merlox123]

ahh did i miss my turn?

[phonicsmonkey]

nope, deguerra is next, and then you

[Zim]

Thanks to hefty security bonuses for your faction leader Samarqand is pretty much immune to spies and sieging a settlement with multiple generals in it is something of a waste.

I suppose I could have offed the Shah while you were gone but that would be kind of lame. :clown:


*shocked*

I'm not dead yet?... done

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4355

[phonicsmonkey]

I took the liberty of subbing for Oman

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4367

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry for the double post but polling has now opened for the Best Hotseat Campaign award.

So, any lurkers or fans of this game, please vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=111879) for us!

The turn deadline for ERE is up in 12 hours or so - if Merlox misses it I'll have to skip the turn - too many delays recently!

[TheFlax]

I'm ready to play my turn at your signal. :2thumbsup:

[phonicsmonkey]

hi all, please enjoy my Turn 30 update:

- The Caliph declares a jihad (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041226#post2041226) on the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the Eastern Roman Empire.

- The Imamate of Oman and Arabia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2032140#post2032140) and the Ayyubid Sultanate (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041300#post2041300) declare their support for the Caliph's jihad.

- The Kingdom of Jerusalem is defiant (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041267#post2041267) in the face of the Caliph's declaration.

- The Eastern Roman Empire's pleas for peace (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041276#post2041276) and attempts at negotiation (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041309#post2041309) are dismissed (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041346#post2041346) by the Caliph, prompting a defiant statement (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2041362#post2041362)from the Emperor Nevolous.

- In the opening exchange of hostilities, the former Byzantine Emperor Alexius ambushes an invasion force led by the Caliph's Crown Prince Az-Zahir and is slain (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2060758#post2060758).

- The Roman Emperor appears to surrender to the Ayyubids (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2053943#post2053943), with his capital under siege, and the Eastern Roman Empire becomes the Protectorate of Konstantinopolis. But not before he strikes back against the Caliphate invasion force, killing Crown Prince Az-Zahir and two of the Caliph's lesser generals (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2055118#post2055118).

- The Caliphate mourns (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2057796#post2057796) the death of Az-Zahir.

- Seljuk armies sweep into Anatolia, seizing Cilician Armenia from the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and taking several formerly Turkish territories from the ERE.

- Caliphate forces cross the Euphrates, taking Aleppo and Antioch from the KoJ.

- The Ayyubid invasion force withdraws from their siege of Constantinople onto their waiting fleet, and in a bitterly ironic disaster, are sunk by pirates (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2073693#post2073693).

- Emboldened by this twist of fate, the ERE fights on, taking Ani and Dvin in the former territory of Georgia from the Caliphate.

- After some conflicting orders (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2082382#post2082382) which confuse some of its soldiers (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2082418#post2082418), the Kingdom of Jerusalem repels the Ayyubid invasion of its lands and seizes Aqaba, Bilbeis and Al-Qahira, slaying the Great Salahuddin himself, before offering a peace treaty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2084023#post2084023).

- The Caliph urges Egypt to fight on (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2084031#post2084031).

- In a surprising development (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2112842#post2112842), the Rajputs arrive in the Levant (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2085786#post2085786) and attack the Kingdom of Jerusalem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2085667#post2085667), having travelled vast distances (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2085779#post2085779) with their war elephants (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2085917#post2085917).

- Having received no response to their offer of peace, the Kingdom of Jerusalem defeats the largest of the remaining Ayyubid armies at Gaza, and offers another peace treaty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2101651#post2101651).

A lot has happened in the last five turns!

[rossahh]

Great summary phonics, but your signature needs a changin. We're not actually voting for Broken Crescent: Commanders of the faithful but rather phonicsmoneky (or ATPG or Merlox). Weird.

[phonicsmonkey]

Great summary phonics, but your signature needs a changin. We're not actually voting for Broken Crescent: Commanders of the faithful but rather phonicsmoneky (or ATPG or Merlox). Weird.

Well, that is the weird thing, because the award is 'Best Hotseat Campaign', and in the nominations thread (which has now disappeared) it was pretty clear that people were nominating the games themselves, and not the organisers per se...hence my comment in the polling thread

I guess the way they set up the awards they have to have one guy who receives it...and for the hotseat campaign that's the organiser.

In my view the whole game has been nominated (it's the concept and all the players that make it a good campaign, not just my humble efforts)...so the sig stays.

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry Merlox, I had to skip your turn to keep the game moving along.

We've had too many delays recently, everyone, let's get this game going again!

Georgia is up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4379

[TheFlax]

KoJ:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4383

[rossahh]

All done. The Ayyubids token attempt to retake Bilbies was repulsed, though we did not seek retribution on Alexandria or Luxor due to our one turn cease fire. Now you guys can never say that I'm not peaceful.


https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4386



Is anyone's faction leader NOT called the Watcher or the Killer by now?

[_Tristan_]

Yes, the Ghorid one..

[phonicsmonkey]

Sweljuks are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4387

rossahh, my guy is called 'The Tyrant' - does that count?

I busted into Homs and slew your northern army - also took Hama

[rossahh]

With the force from Aleppo I hope?

[barcamartin]

Turn done. Ghazni up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4395

[Zim]

I'll take care of this tonight.

[phonicsmonkey]

rossahh, clear up your pms and I will clear up your confusion

:2thumbsup:

[rossahh]

Done

[Zim]

All done. I regret to inform the Shah that his son died running and screaming like a little girl. :clown:

Routed with about half his unit left. I can't blame him given the disparity in numbers.

Does anyone else think bodyguards are a tad on the powerful side in BC? I guess they're supposed to be.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4401

[barcamartin]

Fighting three units of KoJ bodyguard this turn, I must say they are stubborn little f*ckers.

[phonicsmonkey]

Does anyone else think bodyguards are a tad on the powerful side in BC?

yes, they are tanks

[_Tristan_]

Next (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4406)

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nyjdeygmzdu/BC-30-09.zip

PM is on the way to I-K.

:egypt:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I will play it tomorrow. I promise :yes:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

00jebus.. it's your turn!

http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-30-10.rar

[00jebus]

and done....https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4423

[phonicsmonkey]

hi all,

I'm fairly sure that deguerra is out of the game - he had computer problems a couple of turns ago and we have subbed for him since, but he isn't answering pms and hasn't been at the org for a couple of weeks.

I'm going to give him his 48 hours to either play the turn or let me know that he is coming back and wants us to sub again - after that I'll find a new player for Oman.

[rossahh]

Nice touch with the story phonicsmonkey.

[phonicsmonkey]

I thought you'd like that - your boy Georges never got his boat...:thumbsdown:

[phonicsmonkey]

hi all

navarro951 will be taking over the Imamate of Oman and Arabia from deguerra, who is AWOL.

welcome to the game navarro951!

you have 48 hours to play your turn..:2thumbsup:

[navarro951]

thank you ill be taking it soon!

[phonicsmonkey]

Hey guys, we won (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=112506)!

As I said in that thread, well done and congratulations to everyone who has played in the game, posted in the IC and story threads, and helped me with my GM'ing over the past eleven months!

Also, askthepizzaguy won the Best PBM Writeup award (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=112518) for his contributions to our story thread, so we are doubly honoured! Well done ATPG!

Now, back to work - the game must go on!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thanks guys, for nominating me, voting for me, and honoring me so. I admit I was campaigning for the funny award, but my jokes tend to amuse me and annoy others. At least I finally get a badge... right?

:laugh2:

I wonder what Malik is up to these days... probably sitting in some Roman brothel, drinking vast quantities of forbidden spirits, and engaging in lewd and objectionable behavior with the Roman slave girls.

Well done to everyone else who wrote a story, and especially Rossahh, who (from my perspective) was the perfect villain and I enjoyed everything written from his perspective, highly entertaining. Were it not for my continuing inability to load the save files, I would have loved to rejoin the game and annoy Rossahh again, especially as the Ayyubids.

Ramses suggested something I could do to fix it... when I get around to it, I will.


Congratulations, everyone.



And a bit of advice from the dead guy:
navarro951: Beware of Elephants, they tend to roam around in unexpected places, from what I hear.

[navarro951]

^^Haha will do.

Ill be taking the save now...

[navarro951]

Done

BC-30-13 (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-30-13.rar)

Just surveyed things, it seems im in a position of financial trouble. Trying to work that out...

[phonicsmonkey]

ok all, Merlox has not been seen in these here parts for some time, and I have pm'd him repeatedly with no response.

I am going to find a replacement for ERE so we can keep the game moving.

[Redemption]

Greetings all!

It seems I'll be joining this legendary hotseat and hopefully give you some trouble before what seems to be the inevitable conquest of Anatolia :knight::surrender::knight:

[phonicsmonkey]

welcome to the game Redemption!

here is the save for ERE:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4496

remember to pm TheFlax after you post the link here, to let him know he is up..

[Redemption]

I've done my turn. Not as bad as I might have thought at first. I'll post the save a little later tonight as I have a few diplomatic calls to make and probably some "introductory" story to implement a certain change in government (you know the style, slitting the eyes, sending chaps to monasteries and the like, the good old ways).

[Redemption]

Here we go! Georgia!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4504

[TheFlax]

Jerusalem:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4513

[rossahh]

All done and thanks for the gift.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4530

[phonicsmonkey]

seljuks are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4542

[barcamartin]

D'oh, forgot to tell you guys I'm out of town skiing in France this week. I won't be able to do the turn until Monday the 23rd. If you guys have the patience to wait, that'd be great. Otherwise, if phonics or Zim could sub, that'd be great to! Sorry for the inconvinience!

[phonicsmonkey]

have fun skiing barca, and thanks for letting us know before the deadline! I'll sub the turn for you today based on your pm'd instructions..

[phonicsmonkey]

Ghazni is up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4559

[Zim]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4586

[phonicsmonkey]

Tristan asked me to skip his turn, so Rajputs are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4610

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/513woomdxyd/BC-31-09.zip

:egypt:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The Kwarezm Shah is up(Or should I say 'I love my corner'?:laugh4:):

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4622

[phonicsmonkey]

hi everyone, I decided to give 00jebus an extra 24 hours because Ibn-Khaldun was late sending him a pm.

however, if the turn is not played in the next 11 hours I'll skip it.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Sry, I should have sent him that PM right after I finished my turn! :embarassed::embarassed:

[phonicsmonkey]

sorry guys, I didn't get a chance to skip this last night - It'll have to wait until later today, unless Zim can help out and skip it for me...

[Zim]

Oman is up.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4645

[navarro951]

BC-32-01 (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-32-01.rar)

ERE is up PM sent to Redemption!

[Redemption]

Georgia https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4653


:knight::skull::elephant::skull::knight:

https://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/CocaColaRevolution/elephantbattleCommandersoftheFaithf.jpg

Might make some AAR on this fun battle this weekend. Or not.

[TheFlax]

Kingdom of Jerusalem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4661)

[rossahh]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4667

[phonicsmonkey]

seljuks are up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4670

[barcamartin]

Ghazni up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4678

[phonicsmonkey]

I gave Zim an extension because he has a test

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, sorry for the delay everyone, mixup between Zim and I..

ghorids are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4699

[_Tristan_]

:elephant: (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4706)

(click the elephant...) :2thumbsup:

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zyotdziwz0n/BC-32-09.zip

:egypt:

[navarro951]

:elephant: (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4706)

(click the elephant...) :2thumbsup:

coolest thing...ever. :smash:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I love my corner (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4711) (00jebus)

[phonicsmonkey]

I have switched the Khwarezm Shah to AI control

Oman is up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4721

[navarro951]

ERE is up. (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-33-01.rar)

[Redemption]

Georgia: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4723

[TheFlax]

Kingdom of Jerusalem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4728)

[phonicsmonkey]

hi everyone, please vote in the poll to decide the game's future.

[rossahh]

After weeks of playing Empire, I'd forgotten how blurry MTW2 was.


https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4732



Slight diplomatic hitch - couldn't accept the offer. No matter how many times I clicked on the green arrow, nothing happened. Reject, counter and close the scroll options all worked, so I just countered the offer.

Perhaps its something to do with me still being enemies with an ally? Though in my experience the game would usually just force peace between the parties after a diplomatic agreement is accepted.

[phonicsmonkey]

seljuks are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4734

[barcamartin]

Ghazni's up !

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4736

[TheFlax]

Zim asked me to sub for him, will do so in a few hours.

[TheFlax]

Sorry, entirely my fault for the tardiness. :shame:

Ghorids. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4749)

[_Tristan_]

Hey, phonics, would you mind reseting the PW for the Ghorids as the one I had until then doesn't work anymore...

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry Tristan, I must have forgotten to clear it again after resetting it in order to skip your last turn..

here's the new save

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4751

Everyone, if this happens again I always use 0 as the pw when I skip turns...so try that to save time..

[Zim]

You can clear a faction's password without giving them a new one. Just choose to start the turn without typing a new password in.

[phonicsmonkey]

You can clear a faction's password without giving them a new one. Just choose to start the turn without typing a new password in.

:embarassed:................:laugh4:..............:oops:

[_Tristan_]

Rajputs (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4757)

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mrvnf5thgat/BC-33-09.zip

:egypt:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

phonix.. could you just skip Ayyubids. They have nothing important to do and I don't have the time to skip this turn myself. ~:(

[phonicsmonkey]

hmm, I suppose so, although I'd rather people found the time to skip their own turns if they're not going to play them..

I declined a diplomatic request and an adoption offer in the absence of other instructions

here it is for Oman

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4766

[navarro951]

ERE (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-34-01.rar)

[Redemption]

Georgia

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4773

I added some stories from the last few turns. Enjoy!


PS: Really bad move to leave towns with no one inside...

[TheFlax]

Protectorate of Acre (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4781)

[rossahh]

School finished today, but I'm totally buggered after 25 portfolios. I'll do my turn tomorrow 'bout 10am.

[rossahh]

Phew, took longer than expected. Taking all those settlements took awhile.


https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4786

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4787

[phonicsmonkey]

Guys, I'm going to be away until Easter Monday - I've pm'd Zim to ask him to keep an eye on things from a GM perspective in the meantime

Try not to utterly destroy the Caliphate while I'm gone..:help:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Guys, I'm going to be away until Easter Monday - I've pm'd Zim to ask him to keep an eye on things from a GM perspective in the meantime

Try not to utterly destroy the Caliphate while I'm gone..:help:

I think you meant:


Try not to utterly destroy the Ayyubids while I'm gone..:help:

:clown:

[barcamartin]

Sorry for not letting you guys know, but I'm out of town until this Sunday, without any possibilities to play my turn. If you can't wait, I guess Zim or Ramses could sub me. I will be back Sunday, so it isn't a very long delay.

[Redemption]

Since Zim is having internet problems (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2200336&postcount=174) can you sub Ramses? Or do we wait till barca is able to play his turn?

I'm fine either way. But the game has been lagging a bit.

[Ramses II CP]

I'm available tomorrow, just need the PW. I too would like to keep the game moving.

:egypt:

[barcamartin]

Password and simple "guide-lines" sent. Thanks for your help, Ramses.

[Ramses II CP]

The Ghazni are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nimzjnynzk5/BC-34-06.zip

PM away, although Z is evidently away as well.

:egypt:

[Ramses II CP]

Ghorids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yzzymuu2njd/BC-34-07.zip

:egypt:

[Redemption]

Thanks for helping the game move on Ramses.

[Ramses II CP]

Always up for it! I've seen too many of these die just as they were getting interesting (BC 2 and 3 come to mind). :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

[navarro951]

so ya hows about taking that save ghorids...

[_Tristan_]

Oops... forgot to post it... will do it ASAP...

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hqzmk2z2gnd/BC-34-09.zip

:egypt:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I will play my turn tomorrow. I just got back home and at the moment I'm a bit too tired!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

playing my turn now.. I apologize for the delay.. I was so sure that I already played it!! :embarassed::shame:

Edit: BC-34-10 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4812)

Imamate of Arabia is up!

[navarro951]

playing now...

ERE (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-35-01.rar)

[phonicsmonkey]

hello everyone, please enjoy my
Turn 35 update:


- The Kingdom of Jerusalem is perplexed (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2112842#post2112842) by the Indian invasion, and attempts to make peace (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2118745#post2118745) with the Rajputs - the attempt is rebuffed (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2119315#post2119315).

- The Caliphate accuses the Kingdom of Jerusalem of germ warfare (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2119986#post2119986), an accusation which is swiftly denied (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2120025#post2120025).

- Armies of the Caliphate capture (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2120833#post2120833) Hama and Homs (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2128527#post2128527) from the KOJ, and Ani and Dvin from the ERE.

- Further defeats at the hands of the Seljuks bring King Baldwin of the KOJ to the negotiating table, and the Treaty of Jerusalem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2127522#post2127522) is signed. In exchange for peace with the Caliph and his allies, the KOJ will become the Protectorate of Acre and will be the Caliph's vassal.

- Regime change (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2136105#post2136105)comes once more to the Eastern Roman Empire, and a string of victories (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2133693#post2133693) against the Seljuks in Anatolia is the result, with Kaesareia and Laranda falling to Roman arms.

- The Caliph restates his ultimatum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2134551#post2134551) to the Basileos, and it is again rejected (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2134650#post2134650).

- Trouble is brewing (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2146842#post2146842) in the East between the Rajputs, Ghorids and Seljuks.

- Meanwhile, the Rajputs attack the Romans at Attaleia and are repelled (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2193064#post2193064).

- The Ayyubids confirm their peace with the KOJ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2147336#post2147336), and ally with the Rajputs, before entering into a trade dispute with the Latins.

- The Romans begin to turn the tide of the war (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2152792#post2152792), with victories in Anatolia and Georgia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2175540#post2175540) against the Seljuks and Caliphate

- Sensing that the balance of power has shifted, the Georgians declare their independence (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2178143#post2178143)of the Caliphate and throw off the chains of vassalage. Despite the Vizier's misgivings (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2178456#post2178456), there is nothing the Caliph can do but accept it.

- The Roman Basileos offers Ani and Dvin to Georgia as a gesture of friendship (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2178759#post2178759).

- The Romans experience at first hand (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2193065#post2193065)the terrible plague that has sapped the strength of the jihadi forces.

- Emboldened by their success, the Romans deliver an ultimatum of their own (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2193243#post2193243) to the Caliphate and Seljuks.

- Meanwhile, the Protectorate of Acre rebels against Caliphate rule, retaking its lost Levantine and Syrian holdings, and invading Egypt once more (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2197763#post2197763).

- The Caliphate fights back against the Romans and makes a treaty offer (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2198366#post2198366)to end the war. It is rejected by Rome (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2198376#post2198376)and accepted by the Kingdom of Jerusalem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2198436#post2198436).

- The Rajputs again give a warning (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2206553#post2206553)to their troublesome Ghorid vassal.

- The Caliph reflects upon his losses (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2210863#post2210863), before negotiating peace with the ERE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2210996#post2210996).

These updates are getting longer and longer!

[Redemption]

Georgia: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4819

[rossahh]

These updates are getting longer and longer!

Stop bloomin' invading us and then you'll have less to write about. Simple!

[TheFlax]

Kingdom of Jerusalem (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4827)

[rossahh]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4828

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks are up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4830

[Ramses II CP]

Ghazni are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/32medwevymz/BC-35-06.zip

(Should I just sub this one too?)

:egypt:

[phonicsmonkey]

thanks for the offer Ramses, but let's give Zim a chance to play his turn...I know he has the game disk and is back online now, so he should be able to..

Meanwhile, Ibn-Khaldun has let me know he has to drop out of the game. Does anyone know someone who would like to take over as the Ayyubids?

(rossahh you really must stop invading Egypt - every time you do it we lose the Ayyubid player! :clown:)

[navarro951]

thanks for the offer Ramses, but let's give Zim a chance to play his turn...I know he has the game disk and is back online now, so he should be able to..

Meanwhile, Ibn-Khaldun has let me know he has to drop out of the game. Does anyone know someone who would like to take over as the Ayyubids?

(rossahh you really must stop invading Egypt - every time you do it we lose the Ayyubid player! :clown:)

so... ya :laugh4:

[Ramses II CP]

Ghorids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/imhhj5zmmkx/BC-35-07.zip

:egypt:

[navarro951]

Ghorids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/imhhj5zmmkx/BC-35-07.zip

:egypt:

thank you for doing us all a favor. p.s. i learned how to :juggle2: today. its pretty easy actually.

[phonicsmonkey]

thank you for doing us all a favor. p.s. i learned how to :juggle2: today. its pretty easy actually.

three balls is easy - more than that I can't manage

[navarro951]

three balls is easy - more than that I can't manage

haha ya. well i learned how to pass to like have someone in front and keep a rhythm then pass a ball back and forth. that took a bit of time 4 me to learn. I have a teacher who is a professional juggler like machetes flaming stuff all that.

[rossahh]

(rossahh you really must stop invading Egypt - every time you do it we lose the Ayyubid player! )


Fine, fine. I'll just finish the Ayyubids off as a faction and then we won't have this problem any more.

[_Tristan_]

Sorry guys but I won't be able to access the save until Monday...

Hope this is OK ? If not feel free to skip the turn (though I would prefer you did not...:bow:)

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry guys but I won't be able to access the save until Monday...

Hope this is OK ? If not feel free to skip the turn (though I would prefer you did not...:bow:)

I don't mind waiting but I'll skip it if enough people want me to- unless you want to nominate a sub?

[Redemption]

I say we wait :yes:

[_Tristan_]

Rajputs (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4868)

An announcement will follow soon in the Council thread.

(As soon as I can find enough time for it...)

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jwt0kyenzvz/BC-35-09.zip

Who do I pm for them now?

Don't worry about the announcement Tristan, I'll make it for ya. :laugh4:

:egypt:

[rossahh]

Not to toot my own horn or anything, but the Ayyubids are in severe trouble. If phonicsmonkey can't find a permanent player for this turn and beyond, it should be skipped.

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm afraid I don't yet have a replacement player (anybody know anyone?)

rossahh you may well be right and they may be doomed, but I won't be skipping their turn if I can help it

This time I've asked TheFlax to sub for them, and if we don't have a permanent player by next turn I'll switch them to the AI.

[phonicsmonkey]

Wait! I've just been contacted by someone who wants to take over the Ayyubids. I'm going to give them a few days to install the mod and take the save.

[Quirl]

Hey you guys. My name is Reece and I guess I'll be playing as the Ayyubids for a bit. I've been watching your guys' hotseat for awhile now (it's good entertainment during the times I am avoiding homework) and I'm pretty much up to speed with things. You'll probably kill me soon Rossah, but I'm really just here to have fun and you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter." :clown:

[Quirl]

Oh yeah, and I hope to have the save game file up by tomorrow night or Thursday night. I would hate to make you guys wait for too long, however, so I will do my best to complete my turn quickly.

Also, I promise not to bail if things go south for me (which it looks like they will pretty quickly, honestly :beam:) Even I've been annoyed at how many people have "disappeared" in this hotseat.

[Redemption]

This hotseat is long. Real life takes over. The unexpected happens. And then the really freakin' improbable happens and some people wake up to find their worst nightmare has returned to the game to teach them a lesson :smash::smash::smash: :laugh4:

As for Egypt being dead in the water, there's been enough reversals in the West that I wouldn't count them out by a longshot. Then again I don't have spies that far south. Yet. The Anatolian War has left me with many of the little blighters. All plagued of course.

And welcome :laugh4:

[rossahh]

I did not say that they are doomed, but I said that they are in "severe trouble". They have enough combat power at Luxor (and outside it) to resist for a while but they have little to nothing to fall back on after those two armies die.


That said, with a new player I could be nice and end the war straight away. Only if someone asks really nicely of course.

[Quirl]

Ok, first save file is up. Let me know if there are any issues. :yes:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mnehmig2j2m

I'll post in the Council Thread later tonight. :2thumbsup:

[Quirl]

Actually, I think I'll wait to see if the file works before I announce anything in the counsel thread. :yes:

[navarro951]

it works i just took it.

[Quirl]

Great! Then I've officially done my first turn. :2thumbsup:

Good luck Oman! :beam:

[navarro951]

ERE (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-36-01.rar)

[Redemption]

Georgia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4876)

[TheFlax]

Kingdom of Jerusalem

[rossahh]

Thanks for the patience.

Always fun to slaughter the opposition.



https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4882

[phonicsmonkey]

seljuks are up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4883

[Ramses II CP]

FYI I have subbed this I'm just waiting for one note of confirmation on something before I post the link for Zim.

:egypt:

[rossahh]

Is the Sweljuk Sultan on holidays for a while or something?

[Ramses II CP]

Exams as I understand it. If I haven't heard from him by this afternoon I'll post the save, it's not a really big issue just something I wanted to check with him on.

:egypt:

[Ramses II CP]

Okay, here's the save for Zim. I'm 90% sure Bar is okay with what I did, I just wanted him to have a chance to say no, but it's been 24+ hours.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/elji0fjdnuq/BC-36-06.zip

:egypt:

[barcamartin]

Yes, there's loads in school right now. Seems every god damn teacher has set their minds on making the last weeks before summera living hell. And well, they are doing a darn good job. :furious3:

Anyway, things should cool down in a week or two, and I should be back in action.

[Quirl]

I just finished my finals week. Yeah... it blows. :skull:

[phonicsmonkey]

hi all, sorry for the delay here, I was intending to sub this last night but got caught up in baby stuff and by the time I remembered it was waaaay past my bedtime.

I'm still hoping Zim will make an appearance and play the turn, but if he doesn't I'll get onto it tonight and move the game along.

I hope we don't have to replace him...:thumbsdown:

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, the nefarious Ghorids are up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4894

[phonicsmonkey]

hmm...player absence makes me triple-post :thumbsdown:


I will skip this turn if Tristan doesn't show up soon. I'm going to give him another day, because he's at war, and because too many turns are being subbed and skipped right now...

[Redemption]

Once all this forum mess clears up, I'd rather give Tristan a chance. It's the beginning of summer, things tend to slow down, but lets keep this game rolling!

[Ramses II CP]

Someone should sub for Tristan if possible. :yes:

edit: ...if he doesn't have time to do it himself, of course.

:egypt:

[Redemption]

I could. I don't have much of a stake in the conflict (other then wanting to get back to Ramses for his elephant crusade to my end of the world)!

[phonicsmonkey]

boy, I hope he's not having the same kind of problems accessing the org as am...I can't get on with Firefox or IE and I'm having to use Opera. And even then I get on only about 50% of the time.

Good job I have three browsers!

Anyway, here is the save opened up for Redemption to sub the turn (thanks buddy)

http://www.mediafire.com/?trbmynz48js

[Redemption]

Rajputs (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0mzzoyjmwy1)

I'll send a PM to Tristan to tell him what happened. I hope I didn't screw up too much since I don't know the region / conflict.

I did reject your offer though, Ramses.

[Ramses II CP]

Ayyubids are up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mnzzn5mruzz/BC-36-09.zip

Yeah, that offer was more for 'flavor' than in any seriousness. I made a similar one again and I'm certain it'll be rejected again. :laugh4:

:egypt:

[Redemption]

~~ PLEASE READ ~~

Considering the recent problems at the org and since some people (namely phonics, but who knows maybe others) are still having problems with the org forums, just note that we can also communicate through http://www.twcenter.net/forums/.

On TWC phonicsmonkey is phonicsmonkey (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=35154)
And Redemption is The Lemongate (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=40294)

I think this is a relatively important issue since it would be a shame to close this game simply through a forum error such as the one the org just experienced.

[Ramses II CP]

I'm Ramses II CP at TWC, natch. Not that I'm ever there, I find the general environment a bit distasteful. :laugh4:

:egypt:

[Quirl]

Oh man! Oman!

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5jnmmhtnito

P.S.
Are you guys looking for someone to fill the Kypchak slot? It's been open for awhile, I've noticed. I know a guy who might be interested if you are. If not, maybe he can simply stay on standby, just in case Tristan did leave...

[Ramses II CP]

I think the Kypchaks might be crippled at this point, they never really had a player.

:egypt:

[phonicsmonkey]

Yeah, we talked about it before and agreed it's too late to make the Kypchaks a human-controlled faction, the AI has had them since turn one and everyone is used to it..

Quirl, your friend is most welcome to stay in touch and be a backup in case we lose another player.

[navarro951]

Ill the save up in just a min...

[navarro951]

ERE (http://www.mizus.com/pbm/BC-37-01.rar)

[Redemption]

Here we are: Georgia (http://download362.mediafire.com/l1qum1am21tg/eu4l2nedbn3/BC-37-02.rar)

I wanted to kill off my generals this turn to finally make that last damnable Komnenoi my FL! But nooooooo, rossahh you had to go all crusader on me! Good fights though.



Edit: I'll work on a little AAR on those fights this weekend. Here's a little preview of Frederick von Swabia's sorry fate.

https://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/CocaColaRevolution/0019.jpg

[Quirl]

Aw... he'll get chigger bites down there...

[TheFlax]

Kingdom of Jerusalem (http://rapidshare.com/files/235735068/BC-37-03.zip.html)

[rossahh]

A few skirmishes, no major battles.

http://rapidshare.com/files/235943745/BC-37-04.zip.html



It's report writing time so I won't be active for several weeks. I'll check in once a week or so to see if it's my turn.

[phonicsmonkey]

Darn it, that's another Caliph dead to the plague...

[Quirl]

lol! The devil hath gripped these lands. :skull:

[Redemption]

Follow the path I have show you: muslims should fight muslims and christians should fight christian.

That way you guys would never have suffered the plague.

[Quirl]

Well who could argue with that logic?! ~:wacko::logic:~:wacko:

[phonicsmonkey]

Follow the path I have show you: muslims should fight muslims and christians should fight christian.

That way you guys would never have suffered the plague.

Interesting you should say that, for two reasons.

One, I still strongly suspect rossahh of giving me this plague in the first place.

And Two, I have just this turn taken Firuzabad from the Ghorids and besieged their castle at Al-Muharraq.

Seljuks are up, and I'll be adding to the story thread tomorrow or something to explain all this in more detail...

http://rapidshare.com/files/236848208/BC-37-05.zip.html

[Redemption]

One: Yeah he did. His greatest move in the game. That plague has spread up to at least Ikonium in the west and you tell me where it stopped in the east. And it is, of course, still in full swing the Levant proper.

Two: Weird move. Then again, I approve.

[Ramses II CP]

...not quite so weird when you realize the Abbassid's Hindu allies informed them the Ghorid armies were all in India and far from any chance to defend Firuzabad, which can be a modestly profitable city for the Caliph. :laugh4:

I don't remember when Barca said his schedule was letting up, but I'm available to sub as necessary.

:egypt:

[Redemption]

Well yes, that's why I approve: it's profitable. But I'm just wondering, why continue beating on a dead horse? Unless the point is to finish him off of course. I thought Firuzabad and Al-Muharraq were supposed to be his nice, friendly Muslim fallback positions... Something like the Khwarezmians' Samarqand.

Anyhow, Ghorid vs Hindu is kinda bleh from my point of view. I'd like to hear about some real war going on in the East. But I guess it ain't gonna happen :thumbsdown:

The West's gotta do all the job for you guys

Western Division

Seljuq-Georgian War
Invasion of Georgia by the Seljuqid

The Armenian War
First Invasion of Armenia (Romano/Crusader vs Armenia)
Romano-Turkish War

War of the Coalition
Romano-Turkish Invasion of the Levant (with Caliphate intervention)
Destruction of Armenia (Crusader vs Armenia)

Second Crusade
Destruction of the Sultanate of Ikonion (Crusader vs Turkish Sultanate)

The Great Jihad
Muslim Invasion of Anatolia and the Levant (Abbasid/Seljuqid/Omani/Ayyubid vs Romano/Crusader)

Second Crusader Invasion of Egypt
Liberation of Jerusalem (Romano/Crusader vs Caliphate)
Invasion of Lower Egypt (Crusader vs Avidid Mamluks)

Romano-Crusader War
Second Roman Invasion of the Levant

Eastern Division

Ghorid Invasion of India
Rajputo-Ghorid War

Destruction of the Khwarezm Shah
Seljuko-Ghaznavid Invasion of Khwarezmia (Seljuq/Ghaznavid vs Khwarezmia)

Second Ghorid Invasion of India
Second Rajputo-Ghorid War


Now don't you think you guys in the East need to start stirring up some real troubble among yourselves?

[TheFlax]

Don't you forget the great invasion of the Seljuks on Georgia. :laugh4:

[Quirl]

There's a reason they call it the wild, wild west. :smg::hmg:

When are the Mongols coming anyway? That's bound to spice things up...

[Redemption]

Really far from now. 1250+ I don't remember.


Don't you forget the great invasion of the Seljuks on Georgia. :laugh4:

Added.

[Redemption]

The Romans are offering everyone in this game their map information!

https://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/CocaColaRevolution/CommandersoftheFaithful.jpg

[barcamartin]

Darn, guys I'm sorry. :(

This really sucks. I am unavailable to play my turn until Monday, due to family plans and other real life bull crap. ;) So Ramses, if it isn't too much to ask, and you guys would like to keep the game moving, feel free to sub. Otherwise, I'll take the turn on Monday.

[rossahh]

Your map is a bit out of date, and I say let Barca see how his empire is going on Monday. This game has lasted over a year - what's one more day?

[Redemption]

Yeah, yeah, so you've taken back the settlements I left empty. I posted it as I last saw it.

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm happy to wait for barca

I was never happy with the Ghorids taking Firuzabad and Al-Muharraq - too close to my back door for my liking, and I wanted both settlements from the start but barca and deguerra bargained them away from me and never took them for themselves, leaving the door open for Tristan. So, now they're mine.

And in case there's any suspicion that I'm whaling in on the Ghorids while they are being subbed, I was always planning to take those from him (OOC of course, not IC), and didn't see why I should hold back just because he wasn't showing up to play his turns.

I see he only now has three settlements left (including Al-Muharraq, which is about to fall), so if he doesn't return we'll probably switch him to the AI instead of trying to find another player just to have him be knocked out in a few turns by ramses.

[rossahh]

I can neither confirm nor deny that I spread the plauge throughout the lands of the Caliph.




Redemption, a few Ayyubid ones too.

[Quirl]

I'm fine waiting for Barca, too.

Although, I am eager to see what you did to me, rossahh! Usually, our diplomats provide the updates while they claw at each other like prepubescent girls arguing over N'Sync and Backstreet boys in the courtroom. But yours has been quiet of late. But I know you're busy right now, so I guess I'll just have to wait for my turn to find out. :beam:

[phonicsmonkey]

Hey Redemption, weren't you going to give Ani and Dvin back to the Georgians?

Oh, and rossahh, if you're still doing it, can you please stop now?! I've had quite enough plague now thanks...

[rossahh]

Luxor, Alexandria and Qahira fell, but there were no land battles between our forces.



What makes you think it is/was me?

[Quirl]

Oh good. I figured they would fall. As long as there were no land battles.

I wonder how many times the same towns can be sacked over and over again. :laugh4:

[phonicsmonkey]

I wonder how many times the same towns can be sacked over and over again. :laugh4:

This is why the whole of Syria, Cilicia and most of Egypt is a total wasteland, as well as Ani and Dvin.

Most of all I pity the poor people of Antioch, who were exterminated early by rossahh and things have only gone downhill for them since then..

[rossahh]

I felt sorry for Qahira so I only occupied it, but I sacked Luxor and Alexandria. I figured they might as well be inducted into the sacked club.



Antioch was fine after my extermination until the Turks sacked it, then you, and then the Romans. You should see Qahira - it's down to 4000.

[phonicsmonkey]

Antioch was fine after my extermination until the Turks sacked it, then you, and then the Romans..

And somewhere along the line you gave it the plague.

[Redemption]

Man you guys have never seen Anatolia. It was bad enough that me and pizzaturk never built a single structure (I did do a few ports and that catapult range) - and I destroyed loads of what existed in the first place to finance all them wars ya know. Then we sacked and exterminated each other's cities for a while, then came barca who did pretty much the same with me for a few turns, and he brought the plague which continues unabated to this turn since nearly all my troops carry it and I'm kinda careless.

Btw... sorry, phonics, at the moment I think I'm the one spreading it around. That thing is worse then the Black Death in vanilla.

[phonicsmonkey]

Btw... sorry, phonics, at the moment I think I'm the one spreading it around.

I thought we were supposed to be at peace!

[rossahh]

I'm didn't spread it all in Anatolia, so I think it's the Muslims there.


I might have sent an infected spy on a tour of the Caliphate a few times over. Maybe.

[Redemption]

I thought we were supposed to be at peace!

Look at it this way, I spread it to my people too... and rossahh's. And barca's.

Actually I kinda like the big plague, it kinda makes for good stories!


I'm didn't spread it all in Anatolia, so I think it's the Muslims there.

Nah, that was me and the blue meanie from the East.

[phonicsmonkey]

Actually I kinda like the big plague, it kinda makes for good stories!

I should get another award for narrative flexibility - I keep having to contort my plot line to take account of it...

[Quirl]

Most of the reason Qahira's so down now is because I torched all its buildings (same with Alexandria). I'm rolling in money now in consequence...

Most of my power base is deep in Africa now, which suits me fine 'cos they're less vulnerable to attack.

I'm playing like Russia in WWII. :clown:

[Redemption]

I'm playing like Russia in WWII. :clown:

I hope general winter is on your side... er...

[rossahh]

Yeah well, the Germans made it to within sight of Moscow before being turned back. You don't have much past Dongola if I get that far.

[Redemption]

So many posts (and I'm not talking about the dozens of PMs) tonight.

This isn't a forum, it's a chat!

[phonicsmonkey]

as long as it's game-related it's all gravy...

why aren't I getting any of these pms? eh?

not interested in me anymore since you turned on each other..

[rossahh]

Turned on each other?

I think it's more like he turned on me!

[phonicsmonkey]

Turned on each other?

I think it's more like he turned on me!

You must have done something to provoke his interest.

[Redemption]

Okay, okay, there, I'm sending you one (or 10) PMs now.

[rossahh]

You must have done something to provoke his interest.



Well that's easy. I stayed alive for 35 turns and survived god knows how many invasions. Some people just find that offensive...

[Quirl]

Yeah well, the Germans made it to within sight of Moscow before being turned back. You don't have much past Dongola if I get that far.

True. But you're already at my capital, so the time of you being turned back has already started. :clown:

Now, if only we each had elite snipers and could pit them against each other like in "Enemy at the Gates." THAT would be something for the story thread...

[Redemption]

Well that's easy. I stayed alive for 35 turns and survived god knows how many invasions. Some people just find that offensive...

How the hell did you guess that was my casus belli?

[Ramses II CP]

Well, I didn't get home until just now, so why don't we just wait and let Barca do his turn in 24 hours? Wouldn't move things along that much faster, and he'll not have to worry about me messing things up. :2thumbsup:

As far as war in the east, you greatly underestimate the amount of manipulation and behind the scenes skullduggery that has gone on. There was a whole alliance full of betrayals and treachery, there were pretend wars, and there was a dramatic reversal of the early fortunes of war.

The Ghorids don't hold Mansura, by the way, unless someone took it from me and gifted it to them. I think they still have 5 provinces even after Al Muharraq falls (Kabul, Pindi, Kutch, Kolachee, and that castle east of Kolachee) and about one full stack of good troops, not to mention ~10 decent spies that my assassins are having trouble with. I could pretty easily lose 3 or even 4 provinces back to him next year if Tristan decides to play. A couple of my more experienced spies got caught last turn. :thumbsdown:

:egypt:

[Redemption]

I'll update that map when I play my next turn. I used what I can see from my Roman point of view. You eastern barbarians are kinda off the map for us civilized folk.

[rossahh]

In regard to the posts in the court, the Egyptians do not know IC that the KoJ has (or has not) spread the plague in the Caliphate. IC, no one has claimed any responsibility, nor has blame been mentioned either way.

[phonicsmonkey]

In regard to the posts in the court, the Egyptians do not know IC that the KoJ has (or has not) spread the plague in the Caliphate. IC, no one has claimed any responsibility, nor has blame been mentioned either way.

Au contraire, I have accused you openly in court, IC, of spreading the plague, and you have denied it while accepting that the plague began in your lands (Damascus).

It doesn't seem too much of a stretch to imagine that the Egyptians choose to believe my accusation rather than your denial, particularly considering you've been beating the bejesus out of them at every opportunity since...

[barcamartin]

There we go. Felt strange playing this game again. :P

Ghazni up!

http://rapidshare.com/files/237139774/BC-37-06.zip.html

[Ramses II CP]

Anyone heard from Zim? I hope he's still around, he's been in this from the start and I'd hate to lose another of the original players. :no:

:egypt: