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Syn
03-29-2023, 20:30
You wrote this:



which is you saying that you put a lot of your read on how -other- players treated Wisdom (which should be in reverse). To me that's pointing a finger at other people

I am not saying that. I am saying that "fine" is not really a lot. I expected more at either alignment direction in the read, not just "fine".

alright you can be kinda fine

i have doubled the content of my read

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:31
wonder what it means that rask bails on the vulgard counterwagon the moment it ties him

Boquise
03-29-2023, 20:31
alright you can be kinda fine

i have doubled the content of my read

lol

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:32
dya where am i saying the same things as you, feel like we have p different reads rn especially since ive cooled on vulgard and you seem to tr lapras who im frankly tempted to vote rn since he fits with so many teams

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:32
wonder what it means that rask bails on the vulgard counterwagon the moment it ties him

nvm he was voting nutella, this doesn't matter

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:33
dya where am i saying the same things as you, feel like we have p different reads rn especially since ive cooled on vulgard and you seem to tr lapras who im frankly tempted to vote rn since he fits with so many teams

literally stated earlier today that I'm concerned vulgard can't be with several people and that makes my wolf read on him less.

actually read my posts please before continuing to push me as a wolf. it's incredibly frustrating

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:33
lapras + two of cape dya achro syn
gg

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:33
nvm he was voting nutella, this doesn't matter

actually it could still matter

idk

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:34
literally stated earlier today that I'm concerned vulgard can't be with several people and that makes my wolf read on him less.

actually read my posts please before continuing to push me as a wolf. it's incredibly frustrating

yes i remember, that was before you just doubled down on sring him an hour ago

Achro
03-29-2023, 20:34
lapras + two of cape dya achro syn
gg

This is my pelt wtf don't you dare say I am bussing I will fight you.

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:34
vote: lapras

yolo lol

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:35
yes i remember, that was before you just doubled down on sring him an hour ago

I still think he could be scum but I also dont want to maj rask

c'mon nutella

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:35
are you wolfing here? you're not usually this set on me being a wolf. you usually flip flop on your read more and when we agree on stuff you tend to notice, not just ignore it and keep pushing me as a wolf

Achro
03-29-2023, 20:36
Nutella if you are scum you have me snowed Jesus you are so likable rn lol

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:36
Nutella if you are scum you have me snowed Jesus you are so likable rn lol

we are having VERY different game experiences

Achro
03-29-2023, 20:38
we are having VERY different game experiences

I can see that. Do you and nutella have a lot of history?

Boquise
03-29-2023, 20:38
3 votes on Rask rn with 6 for maj right?

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:38
I can see that. Do you and nutella have a lot of history?

yes, some of it fine, some not so fine

Achro
03-29-2023, 20:39
3 votes on Rask rn with 6 for maj right?

Maj is 6 yeah

Boquise
03-29-2023, 20:39
I am going to bed and want to settle with my vote tbh

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:39
3 votes on Rask rn with 6 for maj right?

yes

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:39
3 votes on Rask rn with 6 for maj right?

2, nutella switched

Boquise
03-29-2023, 20:40
2, nutella switched

Cool

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:41
this game has been incredibly tilting to me

vulgard doesn't solve the way people want = nah he's fine

dya doesn't solve the way people want = they must be a wolf!

last time I sign up for a chill game

Sunbae
03-29-2023, 20:42
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2521

vulgard 3 boquise dyachei syn
lapras 3 raskolnikov achro nutella
raskolnikov 2 vulgard enderwiggin

Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29

Boquise
03-29-2023, 20:42
Vote: Rask

I am going to sleep and want my vote to follow Ender.
Also if this is a hit, I was a glorious goat on D1 and everyone owes me an apology tbh

Or I am a clown

Achro
03-29-2023, 20:42
this game has been incredibly tilting to me

vulgard doesn't solve the way people want = nah he's fine

dya doesn't solve the way people want = they must be a wolf!

last time I sign up for a chill game

Do you feel as if this is actually been the case? I have felt like vul has been discussed a lot this game. I know I am only one slot but I have you higher in my reads list than vul.

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:43
if rask flips v, Im going to seriously consider nutella as a wolf. I've thought her game has looked more like her village game, but she hasn't been swaying enough on her reads.

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:43
this game has been incredibly tilting to me

vulgard doesn't solve the way people want = nah he's fine

dya doesn't solve the way people want = they must be a wolf!

last time I sign up for a chill game

mmm

didn't vulgard just complain that people are saying he's not fine because he is Vulgard™

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:43
Do you feel as if this is actually been the case? I have felt like vul has been discussed a lot this game. I know I am only one slot but I have you higher in my reads list than vul.

yes, i feel like this is actually the case


fuck you 20 second timer

Boquise
03-29-2023, 20:43
this game has been incredibly tilting to me

vulgard doesn't solve the way people want = nah he's fine

dya doesn't solve the way people want = they must be a wolf!

last time I sign up for a chill game

Yeah this hasnt really been chill

I am leaning to a 70% Vulgard wolf read. I know he is often misyeeted because he solves in a way that people usually find wolfy but he has yet to adress my issues with him

I read you as townie

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:44
mmm

didn't vulgard just complain that people are saying he's not fine because he is Vulgard™

but people are still not seriously considering him...so just because he says it doesn't make it true and most of that is directed at me

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:44
if rask flips v, Im going to seriously consider nutella as a wolf. I've thought her game has looked more like her village game, but she hasn't been swaying enough on her reads.

nutella has also claimed that she's done extreme swaying this game that is impossible for her to do as wolf (i am withholding my opinion on this claim)

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:45
nutella has also claimed that she's done extreme swaying this game that is impossible for her to do as wolf (i am withholding my opinion on this claim)

let her claim away. I don't agree

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:45
nutella has also claimed that she's done extreme swaying this game that is impossible for her to do as wolf (i am withholding my opinion on this claim)

(i'm not actually withholding. i think it's a lie)

Achro
03-29-2023, 20:46
Sorry if I have contributed to anyone's feeling of not chill. I am pretty high strung but I have been trying to relax more and take things easy.

Syn
03-29-2023, 20:48
Raskolnikov

vote vulgard. it'll be cool i promise

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 20:50
Raskolnikov

vote vulgard. it'll be cool i promise

I am post capped (+1 now), and no. I am town too. bye

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:54
are you wolfing here? you're not usually this set on me being a wolf. you usually flip flop on your read more and when we agree on stuff you tend to notice, not just ignore it and keep pushing me as a wolf

i have flip flopped

thought you were pretty towny d2 and said so

i have a lot of worlds that don't have you as a wolf you're just only focusing on the ones that do

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:55
at least I can tell achro is trying to solve me. I think he's probably becoming my top town

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:55
i have flip flopped

thought you were pretty towny d2 and said so

i have a lot of worlds that don't have you as a wolf you're just only focusing on the ones that do

because YOU. KEEP. PUSHING. THEM. AS. THE. SOLVE.

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:56
if rask flips v, Im going to seriously consider nutella as a wolf. I've thought her game has looked more like her village game, but she hasn't been swaying enough on her reads.

most people are worried im swaying too much lol what posts have you been reading

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 20:57
que?

that doesn't support the context in which you brought up my post

the misreading part was exclusively about dya and not about you

so it's still weird that you're pretending it was about you and using that to shade me


vulgard, I've played with Syn and Lapras more times than I've played with you.

In lapras ISo, he actually does more solving than almost nayone in the thread is giving him credit for. He's not making a ton of waves, it's true, and i have some concerns there. however, he's also a new father and there's more nuance to his reads than "it's not fair you're calling me a wolf because my name is vulgard"

as for syn, I recently played in a game with him where he played almost identically to this. He was town. He did the same things where he didnt really listen to people and did his own thing. I have said it's possible for him to be a wolf. I just don't think so

also nutella, this one is directed at you.

Stop saying all the same things I have said then calling me a wolf. it's getting old

either learn to read me or just elim me

bolded is disingenuous again!

1) i brought up the fact lapras has an excuse of sorts, i'm aware of it, yet you brought it up here as if i was unfairly accusing him of being overlooked -- i'm aware this circumstance exists!
2) fmpov i've been giving pretty normal reads. there might not be as many or as much detail as some people would've liked, but i don't care! there's also the fact that previously in this game, i saw seen an accusation against me that was about my posts being wordy and wishy-washy (i think it even came from you!), so really, whether my posts actually have nuance or not appears to be a split opinion and people seem to pick whatever conforms to their agenda! (i'm half-joking here but i'm 100% sure that has happened)
3) even if you have less experience with me than with the other players i listed, i'm sure it's still easy to recognize how the thread treats me compared to these other players and act accordingly! it's mafia 101. you don't need to know any player in this game to recognize the thread's treatment of them, and i do believe i've evidently been treated as someone for whom a perceived lack of nuance / developed reads means more than it does for the others. i think you've taken advantage of it and you're giving "lack of experience" here as more of an excuse than anything :c


this game has been incredibly tilting to me

vulgard doesn't solve the way people want = nah he's fine

dya doesn't solve the way people want = they must be a wolf!

last time I sign up for a chill game

so you DO understand why i think the push on me is wolfy!

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:57
most people are worried im swaying too much lol what posts have you been reading

tell me who most people includes. Because I haven't seen that complaint

jfc am i in a different game thread than some of you?

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:58
because YOU. KEEP. PUSHING. THEM. AS. THE. SOLVE.
....no

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 20:58
Yeah this hasnt really been chill

I am leaning to a 70% Vulgard wolf read. I know he is often misyeeted because he solves in a way that people usually find wolfy but he has yet to adress my issues with him

I read you as townie

what issues you have with me have i not addressed?

Lapras
03-29-2023, 20:59
I think nutella is clear town. They came in tkday tring me and have had me slip as info come in countrr to jt

I think they are town despite voting me

Vote: VULGARD

OR RASK

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 20:59
most people are worried im swaying too much lol what posts have you been reading

+1

wow i need 3 characters

nutella
03-29-2023, 20:59
tell me who most people includes. Because I haven't seen that complaint

jfc am i in a different game thread than some of you?

syn obv but also read my posts and see how many times ive changed my mind on literally every slot

dyachei
03-29-2023, 20:59
that doesn't support the context in which you brought up my post

the misreading part was exclusively about dya and not about you

so it's still weird that you're pretending it was about you and using that to shade me



bolded is disingenuous again!

1) i brought up the fact lapras has an excuse of sorts, i'm aware of it, yet you brought it up here as if i was unfairly accusing him of being overlooked -- i'm aware this circumstance exists!
2) fmpov i've been giving pretty normal reads. there might not be as many or as much detail as some people would've liked, but i don't care! there's also the fact that previously in this game, i saw seen an accusation against me that was about my posts being wordy and wishy-washy (i think it even came from you!), so really, whether my posts actually have nuance or not appears to be a split opinion and people seem to pick whatever conforms to their agenda! (i'm half-joking here but i'm 100% sure that has happened)
3) even if you have less experience with me than with the other players i listed, i'm sure it's still easy to recognize how the thread treats me compared to these other players and act accordingly! it's mafia 101. you don't need to know any player in this game to recognize the thread's treatment of them, and i do believe i've evidently been treated as someone for whom a perceived lack of nuance / developed reads means more than it does for the others. i think you've taken advantage of it and you're giving "lack of experience" here as more of an excuse than anything :c



so you DO understand why i think the push on me is wolfy!

It is not disingenuous. You literally just said that you think people are being unfair because your play is different.

Nobody is seriously pushing you as a wolf outside of like me, boq and syn. that doesn't suddenly make you town

stop calling things disingenuous because you don't agree with me. You're trying to discredit everything I'm saying by boiling it down to a buzzword

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:00
....no

how many times today have you considered a world where I'm not a wolf?

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:01
syn obv but also read my posts and see how many times ive changed my mind on literally every slot

and I would say if you think what you did on d2 was a "strong" read on me we have very different definitions of strong

and you seem to be throwing that all aside without much reasoning other than "I want dya to do more"

idk nut, if you can't tell this is my v game at this point, it's a you problem

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:01
It is not disingenuous. You literally just said that you think people are being unfair because your play is different.

Nobody is seriously pushing you as a wolf outside of like me, boq and syn. that doesn't suddenly make you town

stop calling things disingenuous because you don't agree with me. You're trying to discredit everything I'm saying by boiling it down to a buzzword

if i were trying to discredit everything you're saying, i'd bold the entire post and call it disingenuous. i only bolded one small part of it and explained why i thought it was disingenuous. you're trying to make it LOOK LIKE i'm trying to discredit everything you're saying here, but it's pretty clear i am engaging with the whole thing

nutella
03-29-2023, 21:02
how many times today have you considered a world where I'm not a wolf?

im not going to quote the several posts i just made with a bunch of different worlds

yes you're in some of them

i have seriously considered a lot of others

for the last time, read my damn posts and not just the ones about you

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:03
im not going to quote the several posts i just made with a bunch of different worlds

yes you're in some of them

i have seriously considered a lot of others

for the last time, read my damn posts and not just the ones about you

I'm not going to include the massive post where you posted all possible combinations because you're clearly pushing a POE of 4 with me in it, nut

like c'mon don't make suhit up

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:03
im not going to quote the several posts i just made with a bunch of different worlds

yes you're in some of them

i have seriously considered a lot of others

for the last time, read my damn posts and not just the ones about you

you should read my posts first. since you seem to think I'm a wolf, don't you think that would be a good fucking idea?

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:04
if i were trying to discredit everything you're saying, i'd bold the entire post and call it disingenuous. i only bolded one small part of it and explained why i thought it was disingenuous. you're trying to make it LOOK LIKE i'm trying to discredit everything you're saying here, but it's pretty clear i am engaging with the whole thing

also, what i said was that i have a higher burden of expectation than some other slots in this game and that's where many of the wolfreads stem from. i think you've knowingly tried to take advantage of that in your push on me, and i think regardless of your knowledge about my play, it's easy to figure out from the thread's treatment of me that i do have a higher burden.

nutella
03-29-2023, 21:04
idk nut, if you can't tell this is my v game at this point, it's a you problem
uno reverse card

instead of fighting let's solve with each other town

what do you think of...lapras/cape/syn if rask flips v

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:05
if i were trying to discredit everything you're saying, i'd bold the entire post and call it disingenuous. i only bolded one small part of it and explained why i thought it was disingenuous. you're trying to make it LOOK LIKE i'm trying to discredit everything you're saying here, but it's pretty clear i am engaging with the whole thing

semantics

Im not trying to make it look like anything.

but you guys have done your job. You've made it incredibly tilting to be in thread.

if you actually wanted to figure me out, you could have talked to me instead of at me, you didn't do that. I have gone back and forth on you today, mostly because, as stated in the past, I think we have to figure out mech shit first. but instead of trying to engage with me, you've only come in and said I'm a wolf. You haven't really given a case, you've given nothing to respond to

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:06
uno reverse card

instead of fighting let's solve with each other town

what do you think of...lapras/cape/syn if rask flips v

if you had read my posts today, you would already know

dyachei
03-29-2023, 21:06
i'm done posting for the day

unvote

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:07
semantics

Im not trying to make it look like anything.

but you guys have done your job. You've made it incredibly tilting to be in thread.

if you actually wanted to figure me out, you could have talked to me instead of at me, you didn't do that. I have gone back and forth on you today, mostly because, as stated in the past, I think we have to figure out mech shit first. but instead of trying to engage with me, you've only come in and said I'm a wolf. You haven't really given a case, you've given nothing to respond to

why are you so tilted if you think i'm a wolf?

nutella
03-29-2023, 21:07
honestly, im staying on lapras. i think thread rn indicates he is a wolf regardless of rasks alignment

Achro
03-29-2023, 21:07
So I don't know the history between you two at all but the angles you both have taken today, to me, have been good in different ways.

I think dya's frustration at not being town read comes off as genuine rather than manipulative. Like they have an expectation to be tred because they trust nut to see them and understand them but nut isn't living up to her end if the bargain and it is creating confusion and turmoil inside of dya which I think is bleeding into their posts. And I am someone who does not often respond to emotional tells but idk seems pure to me.

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:09
why are you so tilted if you think i'm a wolf?

i did try to engage with you earlier but it didn't seem like you cared to do anything at that time

if you're town here who are the wolves other than me

talk about people who aren't me for a second, if that pleases you you can pretend i'm wolf and preflip me as such but i want to hear your takes on slots not named vulgard

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:10
So I don't know the history between you two at all but the angles you both have taken today, to me, have been good in different ways.

I think dya's frustration at not being town read comes off as genuine rather than manipulative. Like they have an expectation to be tred because they trust nut to see them and understand them but nut isn't living up to her end if the bargain and it is creating confusion and turmoil inside of dya which I think is bleeding into their posts. And I am someone who does not often respond to emotional tells but idk seems pure to me.

i think dya wolfreading nutella here is bizarre because i think nutella has been consistently towny

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:11
honestly, im staying on lapras. i think thread rn indicates he is a wolf regardless of rasks alignment

i'll switch to either of them depending

letting rask live might be really bad though

nutella
03-29-2023, 21:13
i'll switch to either of them depending

letting rask live might be really bad though

fair yeah

Achro
03-29-2023, 21:13
i think dya wolfreading nutella here is bizarre because i think nutella has been consistently towny

I think nutella has been towny too but a component I don't have for nut is any expectation of her ability to really get me. I feel like this feels as if dya doesn't want nut to be town because it is disappointing.

Also I forget if I said it yet, but vul/dya not w/w

Syn
03-29-2023, 21:31
i'm done posting for the day

unvote

why is your final post and vote saving vulgard

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:33
why is your final post and vote saving vulgard

what even are your reads what the hell

Syn
03-29-2023, 21:34
what even are your reads what the hell

i recently read the vile village by lemony snicket

it was alright

Syn
03-29-2023, 21:34
I am post capped (+1 now), and no. I am town too. bye

ok vote: Raskolnikov

nebjiamn
03-29-2023, 21:37
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2572


raskolnikov 4 vulgard enderwiggin boquise syn
lapras 3 raskolnikov achro nutella
vulgard 1 lapras


Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let us know


Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29, a bit less than 2.5 hours from now

Lapras
03-29-2023, 21:38
Rip me i guess

I dknt really have a solid read on anyone sorry.

Think vul is a hit because alot of his logics and early pushes on me were just kinda stinky

I think rask is so haywire hes likely a hit too

I quite like cape/boq/nut but for various ethereal reasons

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 21:40
Rip me i guess

I dknt really have a solid read on anyone sorry.

Think vul is a hit because alot of his logics and early pushes on me were just kinda stinky

I think rask is so haywire hes likely a hit too

I quite like cape/boq/nut but for various ethereal reasons

you're still referencing those pushes as a reason to vote me even though i've abandoned them entirely a long time ago?

Lapras
03-29-2023, 21:45
you're still referencing those pushes as a reason to vote me even though i've abandoned them entirely a long time ago?

Wolves arent consistently scummy lol

If youve got a bunch of reads i find scummy and then in general some walls i find towny

And i find rask a bit the same

Whereas all towny from everyone else

Im inclined to wolf read you yes

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 22:07
Wolves arent consistently scummy lol

If youve got a bunch of reads i find scummy and then in general some walls i find towny

And i find rask a bit the same

Whereas all towny from everyone else

Im inclined to wolf read you yes

do you think the bolded is true about every other player in the game?

explain your worldview to me in more detail than this please

Lapras
03-29-2023, 22:20
do you think the bolded is true about every other player in the game?

explain your worldview to me in more detail than this please

In the sense that when ive popped in, when ive iso'd and when ive read things ive found whay theyre doing towny, yes.

For e.g. boq was kinda null d1, then his world view got boxed in as he was pushed. He came to a few stubborn reads incl Wisdom town that he insisted on whilst sring others. All in it feels like a consistent and towny POV. I couldnt now say why i would vote them. The d1 "lacking " no longer works becuase the worldview and progression is there whilst your bad pushes remain bad pushes. Theres an explanation for boq

With dya i think theyve been reasonable and balanced in their limited time. Theyve had a sort of towny entitlement whenever ive been in thread that matches the POV they profess- they wanted a casual game and they are being sussed for it not being that.

Syn i actually forgot about and their laissez faire attitude is kinda wolfy given how terrible this gsmes going. They seem to be refugin in audacity a bit and seem to just be antagonising ppl. I think their reads line up with mine but ive not no real idea and in general fidn the consistency of their attitude a bit scummy becausd the games only got worse

Syn
03-29-2023, 22:24
Syn i actually forgot about and their laissez faire attitude is kinda wolfy given how terrible this gsmes going. They seem to be refugin in audacity a bit and seem to just be antagonising ppl. I think their reads line up with mine but ive not no real idea and in general fidn the consistency of their attitude a bit scummy becausd the games only got worse

i was actively losing my mind d2 but alright sure

Lapras
03-29-2023, 22:26
i was actively losing my mind d2 but alright sure

Bare in mind my absense so i might have missed those posts

Achro
03-29-2023, 22:28
unvote: lapras

Not how I would phrase it but I gotta say I like the towny entitlement read on dya there.

nutella
03-29-2023, 22:59
Raskolnikov postcap lifting, do you have anything else to say or can i put you at -1

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:00
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2434


raskolnikov 3 vulgard nutella enderwiggin
vulgard 1 boquise
cape90 1 achro
nutella 1 raskolnikov


Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let us know

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29


VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2521

vulgard 3 boquise dyachei syn
lapras 3 raskolnikov achro nutella
raskolnikov 2 vulgard enderwiggin

Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29


ngl it crossed my mind there was a push to ml v!vulgard to seal the game D4 (in the hypothesis I survive D3, I would definatly not with another villa flip). dunno give it a thought tmr.

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:00
unvote: lapras

Not how I would phrase it but I gotta say I like the towny entitlement read on dya there.

really?

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:01
really?

I mean the unvote is more symbolic I am not suddenly tring lapras.

But yeah matches my own views of dya atm

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:03
well im really afraid this is actually gonna be a v flip


this game sucks tbh

(just the game tho the players and hosts are all lovely ppl uwu)

Lapras
03-29-2023, 23:03
Im going sleep now will leave my vote on vulgard

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:04
well im really afraid this is actually gonna be a v flip


this game sucks tbh

(just the game tho the players and hosts are all lovely ppl uwu)

He certainly got townier throughout the day.

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:04
I mean the unvote is more symbolic I am not suddenly tring lapras.

But yeah matches my own views of dya atm

i sort of agree with the syn assessment but the dya take i don't see

Lapras
03-29-2023, 23:04
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2572


raskolnikov 4 vulgard enderwiggin boquise syn
lapras 3 raskolnikov achro nutella
vulgard 1 lapras


Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let us know


Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29, a bit less than 2.5 hours from now

Yes. Town can decide what to do with me

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:04
He certainly got townier throughout the day.

do you mean rask or lapras

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:06
I mean the unvote is more symbolic I am not suddenly tring lapras.

But yeah matches my own views of dya atm

on the one hand i sympathize with their entitlement but on the other hand i have a hard time seeing their turnaround on me as town motivated, like to use their words they should really be seeing me as town here and they were until it suddenly was an avenue for a potential game losing ml. obviously im biased to believe that i have done more to be seen as my town self than they have. idk i can see it both ways

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:07
do you mean rask or lapras

Rask

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:07
i sort of agree with the syn assessment but the dya take i don't see

i think reading it as towny entitlement is missing the context as best

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:07
Raskolnikov postcap lifting, do you have anything else to say or can i put you at -1

lol I just did, I have followed the thread last 2 hours.

There is definatly a thing with vulg. Don't know if he is the designed final ML or just distancing at this point, but there is a weird dynamic here between him/Dya/Boq. Syn might be a wolf here for his lack of commitment to yeet me. I mean me not wanting to vote Vulg is definatly not wolfy but it looked he was ready to let me live if I voted him. weird

Lapras is wolfy. Yes he has very valid irl reasons (I don't think I have congratulated you Lapras btw. it's hard but wonderful at the same time. all the best to the family), but he is still wolfy. (I've been busy and a wolf in the past, it's not antinomic)

glgl

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:08
i think reading it as towny entitlement is missing the context as best

at best


Rask

i could switch to lapras but if that flips v then we are really screwed tomorrow no matter what

inb4 someone else switches, lapras flips w, and i look terrible for this comment

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:08
on the one hand i sympathize with their entitlement but on the other hand i have a hard time seeing their turnaround on me as town motivated, like to use their words they should really be seeing me as town here and they were until it suddenly was an avenue for a potential game losing ml. obviously im biased to believe that i have done more to be seen as my town self than they have. idk i can see it both ways

You both say you have done enough to be town read and are befuddled the other doesn't see it. Interesting.

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:08
at best



i could switch to lapras but if that flips v then we are really screwed tomorrow no matter what

inb4 someone else switches, lapras flips w, and i look terrible for this comment

You are not wrong.

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:09
You both say you have done enough to be town read and are befuddled the other doesn't see it. Interesting.

not w/w :bow:

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:09
haven't heard from cape in a while hm

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:09
haven't heard from cape in a while hm

he escaped

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:10
he escaped

lmao. tx for the laugh

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:11
You are not wrong.

i won't pretend i'm not tempted

it's an objectively bad play though isn't it

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:11
yeah i think it's lapras + 2 of cape/syn/dya

keeping my vote

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:11
i won't pretend i'm not tempted

it's an objectively bad play though isn't it

actually it's not if lapras flips w

:shifty:

i was looking for hmmyes

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:12
There is definatly a thing with vulg. Don't know if he is the designed final ML or just distancing at this point, but there is a weird dynamic here between him/Dya/Boq. Syn might be a wolf here for his lack of commitment to yeet me. I mean me not wanting to vote Vulg is definatly not wolfy but it looked he was ready to let me live if I voted him. weird

you not switching to vulgard guarantees he won't go over and I'd rather you die than lapras

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:13
I will flip town friendos, ofc from my pov it's worthwhile to go and chop Dz but it's up to you really (I won't self vote though, gotta make the wolves move heh)

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:14
haven't heard from cape in a while hm

I was thinking about posting this but then I remembered it's a chill game and didn't want to lol

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:14
you not switching to vulgard guarantees he won't go over and I'd rather you die than lapras

Do you have non mech reasons?

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:14
i am so tempted but it's so bad if it's wrong

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:15
Vul sounds like someone who has never committed a crime getting oddly excited at the prospect of jaywalking.

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:16
Do you have non mech reasons?

the pocketing tbh

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:16
i am so tempted but it's so bad if it's wrong

yeah but anything is so bad if it's wrong at this point and i'm at thinking lapras is significantly more likely a hit than rask

theres a spectre of alison somewhere yelling at me to just resolve rask but ive pretty completely changed my mind lol

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:17
like, the motion result and his reaction should mean we just flip him but aaa

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:18
like, the motion result and his reaction should mean we just flip him but aaa

MD don't counter

Is

Very bad.

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:18
Vul sounds like someone who has never committed a crime getting oddly excited at the prospect of jaywalking.

i normally don't make high-risk plays like this

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:19
yeah but anything is so bad if it's wrong at this point and i'm at thinking lapras is significantly more likely a hit than rask

theres a spectre of alison somewhere yelling at me to just resolve rask but ive pretty completely changed my mind lol

i'd argue rask is less bad if wrong even though i'd like to keep rask alive more if he's town

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:19
MD don't counter

Is

Very bad.

please speak english

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:20
please speak english

First line is rask. Second two lines is my thought.

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:20
the pocketing tbh

lol bub. Dude has made literally nothing this game, has no POE, etc... But you'd rather vote me because I was nice in a couple of posts. :shrug:

Vulgard
03-29-2023, 23:21
yeah no i don't think i'm switching

glgl

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:23
specifically from my position
rask w -> p much clears me and we hit a wolf and dont go to mylo
rask v -> we go to mylo and im one of the possible mls
lapras w -> p much clears me and we hit a wolf and dont go to mylo
lapras v -> we go to mylo and im one of the possible mls but more likely ppl will want to resolve rask and if hes somehow also v in this situation thats just gg too


so theyre p much the same i just have to correctly pick the one that is a wolf if only one is. wowee

i think we always lose if lapras is v and definitely if theyre both v

i think lapras is the more likely hit if theyre not w/w

i have reason to tr rask despite everything


idk maybe this is wrong. maybe i was right originally and ender caught a wolf and rask's initial reaction was indeed outing like i thought


screaming internally

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:24
lol bub. Dude has made literally nothing this game, has no POE, etc... But you'd rather vote me because I was nice in a couple of posts. :shrug:

it's very suspicious tbh

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:25
this is what i was talking about earlier when i was wondering why wolf rask would continue to put in the effort hes been putting in

lolme

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:25
specifically from my position
rask w -> p much clears me and we hit a wolf and dont go to mylo
rask v -> we go to mylo and im one of the possible mls
lapras w -> p much clears me and we hit a wolf and dont go to mylo
lapras v -> we go to mylo and im one of the possible mls but more likely ppl will want to resolve rask and if hes somehow also v in this situation thats just gg too


so theyre p much the same i just have to correctly pick the one that is a wolf if only one is. wowee

i think we always lose if lapras is v and definitely if theyre both v

i think lapras is the more likely hit if theyre not w/w

i have reason to tr rask despite everything


idk maybe this is wrong. maybe i was right originally and ender caught a wolf and rask's initial reaction was indeed outing like i thought


screaming internally

perfect sumup. I have been screaming internally and itt since Ender outed his dumb result (wp woofs btw)

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:25
specifically from my position
rask w -> p much clears me and we hit a wolf and dont go to mylo
rask v -> we go to mylo and im one of the possible mls

what happened to thinking you'd be the nk

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:26
this is what i was talking about earlier when i was wondering why wolf rask would continue to put in the effort hes been putting in

lolme

this isn't a real thought

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:26
it's very suspicious tbh

nah. I am not you :curtain:

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:27
what happened to thinking you'd be the nk

thats p obviously off the table now lol

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:27
this isn't a real thought

it is a real thought git gud

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:29
this is the kind of thing that is making me worry, you know 100% you are dying today and you cannot convince the thread otherwise so if you're wolf why reply, if you're town it's to actually help us solve

i mean i guess what it accomplishes, at least to me, is overwhelm/exhausting town solving by making us think about too many worlds, but thats kinda a stretch

so if you really are town, i appreciate the help, just not that you're so wrong on me. for my sake assume i'm town and give me a solve to work with if you flip v?

this Syn

the bolded ended up to be not necessarily the case because if hes wolf he did successfully convince some of us not to just resolve him today lol

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:30
maybe syn just hasn't been able to see my perspective all game because he has tmi

maybe he just has zero insight to how my brain works, which, fair, it's kinda a mess in there

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:31
this Syn

the bolded ended up to be not necessarily the case because if hes wolf he did successfully convince some of us not to just resolve him today lol

tbf, the main swaying happened after ender revealed that he didn't actually have a second result

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:32
Hmm.

Lapras flipping w means vul is 100% always v which has value in worlds this is true.

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:33
tbf, the main swaying happened after ender revealed that he didn't actually have a second result

wrong. I solved since I wake up today. I was already near postcap when Ender posted his second result. get real.

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:34
and yeah, excuse I am just human. I did take me a bit of time to cool down, accept the fact I played bad, and regroup to try and still help villas.

Sunbae
03-29-2023, 23:35
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2635

raskolnikov 4 vulgard enderwiggin boquise syn
lapras 2 raskolnikov nutella
vulgard 1 lapras


Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:36
wrong. I solved since I wake up today. I was already near postcap when Ender posted his second result. get real.

this is not mutually exclusive with what I said

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:36
and yeah, excuse I am just human. I did take me a bit of time to cool down, accept the fact I played bad, and regroup to try and still help villas.

i don't think you played badly or even really became emotional after the motion result. don't think the sad act here is necessary tbh

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:36
i like to believe that town syn even really stuck in a tunnel would try to understand where ive been coming from in at least one of my many replies to him and consider that he might be wrong, especially when i had already pointed out how uncharitable he was being on d2

that he only doubles down on it no matter what, after i've been transparent with all my thought processes, doesn't seem like town sincerely trying to solve my alignment, it seems like a wolf keeping me available as a possible ml once ive gotten a bit of pressure from others to back it up

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:37
maybe syn just hasn't been able to see my perspective all game because he has tmi

maybe he just has zero insight to how my brain works, which, fair, it's kinda a mess in there

i measured your skull and it unfortunately says that you are a wolf

phrenology humour am i right

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:38
I think voting out rask is the best play after mulling it over.

Won't vote so day doesn't end early.

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:38
i don't think you played badly or even really became emotional after the motion result. don't think the sad act here is necessary tbh

https://media.tenor.com/GkHNOiBO0UkAAAAC/hahaa.gif

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:38
I wasn't considering firefighter

I am very tempted by the lapras wagon

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:38
i like to believe that town syn even really stuck in a tunnel would try to understand where ive been coming from in at least one of my many replies to him and consider that he might be wrong, especially when i had already pointed out how uncharitable he was being on d2

that he only doubles down on it no matter what, after i've been transparent with all my thought processes, doesn't seem like town sincerely trying to solve my alignment, it seems like a wolf keeping me available as a possible ml once ive gotten a bit of pressure from others to back it up

you are forgetting our short-lived alliance vs cape and vulgard d2 smh

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:38
i don't think you played badly or even really became emotional after the motion result. don't think the sad act here is necessary tbh

i love to run around calling things perspective slips willy nilly but this is a perspective slip milord :bow:

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:38
Cape out of nowhere with the steel chair

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:39
haven't heard from cape in a while hm

i sleep

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:39
you are forgetting our short-lived alliance vs cape and vulgard d2 smh

true but

see above

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:40
i sleep

u fool :curtain:

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:40
i love to run around calling things perspective slips willy nilly but this is a perspective slip milord :bow:

what perspective is my post meant to be slipping

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:41
i love to run around calling things perspective slips willy nilly but this is a perspective slip milord :bow:

i'd like to call everyone's attention to this. idk if people see it how i see it but i think this syn post pretty much tmis rask town


syn and lapras are 2 wolves gg

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:41
"I don't think you played badly" assumes that he is town


this will be argued against but i calls em how i sees em

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:42
"I don't think you played badly" assumes that he is town


this will be argued against but i calls em how i sees em

i don't see it

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:42
lapras + two of cape dya achro syn
gg

my top scumread and then my towncore LOL

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:42
rask: I played badly
syn: i don't think you played badly
nutella: this perspective slips rask as town

what is the logic here

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:43
my top scumread and then my towncore LOL

i currently think its exactly lapras syn dya fwiw

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:43
i don't see it

lol ofc u don't but I do too.

I'd say cfd you rn is harder and more risky than lapras. but your wolf equity has increased a lot in this eod.

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:43
if rask does flip w cape is def on the menu but i think less so if rask v

just would happen to fit with my other poe too

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:44
rask: I played badly
syn: i don't think you played badly
nutella: this perspective slips rask as town

what is the logic here

the logic is that any sane villa should be devastated and not handing compliments in this game state

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:44
I am kinda confused on how a lot of players seem to have Syn as town, and haven't really cared for my mini push there. I also find it weird that Syn's take away on me afterwards is that I am "fine".

I think the absolute certainty that wisdom was a wolf to the walk back today, by also blaming it on other players don't fit.

However given the sudden sarcasm pop-in on Vulgard + trying to meld the "Why I thought Wisdom was a wolf" response with "btw Vulgard is a wolf" thought in one post makes Syn/Vulgard never w/w with each other tbh

I dont have a lot of time, but I just liked Syn's handling of people and the takes he has had this game

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:44
rask: I played badly
syn: i don't think you played badly
nutella: this perspective slips rask as town

what is the logic here

it just straight up read to me as a post from a wolf being cutesy to the town who they just got mled via a clever mechanical misdirection

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:45
lol ofc u don't but I do too.

I'd say cfd you rn is harder and more risky than lapras. but your wolf equity has increased a lot in this eod.

is the gotcha here that you being wolf means you did play badly, so me saying you didn't is wolf!me acknowledging you're town?

genuinely what is the logic being used here lol

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:46
I am 50/50 on Rask flipping wolf because of the MD claim. The thing I found scummy was I just assumed that Rask would HAVE to not believe the MD claim. But he was playing slightly weird around them

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:47
the logic is that any sane villa should be devastated and not handing compliments in this game state

oh this is just a really contrived "syn isn't sad so he's bad" read

ok proceed

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:47
is the gotcha here that you being wolf means you did play badly, so me saying you didn't is wolf!me acknowledging you're town?

genuinely what is the logic being used here lol

I mean I played badly whatever my alignment.

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:48
I'm still pretty sure dyachei doesn't play like this as mafia. I like their recent posts when i was gone anyways

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:48
is the gotcha here that you being wolf means you did play badly, so me saying you didn't is wolf!me acknowledging you're town?

genuinely what is the logic being used here lol

that kinda is part of it too yeah

but also he was claiming he played badly *as town* and you humoring that is assuming hes town. idk how else to explain it, other ppl will either see it my way or not, it's just another reason to sr you on top of others

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:48
it just straight up read to me as a post from a wolf being cutesy to the town who they just got mled via a clever mechanical misdirection

i actively attempted to chop someone other than rask and only piled on him when the chance of a vulgard wagon succeeding dissipated

also like

i didn't really play a part in casing rask

if anything i just look like a wolf leashed into bussing his teammate if rask flips wolf

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:49
I mean I played badly whatever my alignment.

you didn't tho

wowee look at me perspective slipping

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:49
I am 50/50 on Rask flipping wolf because of the MD claim. The thing I found scummy was I just assumed that Rask would HAVE to not believe the MD claim. But he was playing slightly weird around them

but it was like he did not believe them, going into him believing the MD claim

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:49
I am 50/50 on Rask flipping wolf because of the MD claim. The thing I found scummy was I just assumed that Rask would HAVE to not believe the MD claim. But he was playing slightly weird around them

well that was my first reaction. (like I saw it coming from Ender's first post today)

Then I checked the setup lol. And acknowledged Ender could be saying the truth.

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:49
I am 50/50 on Rask flipping wolf because of the MD claim. The thing I found scummy was I just assumed that Rask would HAVE to not believe the MD claim. But he was playing slightly weird around them

yeah i think the thing that gives me the most hope he still flips w is how quickly he treated ender as 100% real

but it's possible town who assumed they were framed by being targeted by something could do that too

Sunbae
03-29-2023, 23:49
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2673

raskolnikov 4 vulgard enderwiggin boquise syn
lapras 2 raskolnikov nutella
vulgard 1 lapras

Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:50
This was said to Wisdom, so I know this type of question and reaction is non-paired in this instance. Let's see if Syn reacts this way to others.



Same type of smartass remark to a flipped town. Again, non-paired confirmed between these two.



Same type of smartass post as above, but to unflipped Vulgard this time.



Self-aware post in response to Dya




This observation of Vul's post feels crisp and unpaired. I don't expect wolves to attack each other between the margins like Syn is doing here with Vul. There's bite to it.




Accusing your scumbuddy of open wolfing feels 'pretty stupid' with no outed power day 2.



Same type of smartass response about nutella/vul as he had to dead town.



Talks to Ender directly about Boq, but unless I missed it hasn't really said anything to Boq up until this point.

Interesting.



Gives a town read of me through implication and is self-aware enough to acknowledge that they treated me the same way as other potential wolves have. Feels pretty icky.






in response to me asking how Nutella is open wolfing, yeah this isn't going to be paired.



smartass replay to Cape



About Wisdom. Oops.







There is no tension at all within Syn when he goes in on Vul, I don't think this is bussing.



More smartass-ness with cape in line with how Syn treated dead town. I don't think Syn/Cape are paired






Treating Rask similarly to how he treated dead town.

So, I think if Rask is a hit Syn is never a wolf with Rask tbh.

But if I am entertaining Rask v worlds, that bit about not wanting Boq to be run up day 2 when unless I missed it (I could have missed it, isoing here is weird) he hasn't really interacted much with Boq this game is very, very interesting to me.

this wall contains towny Syn posts

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:50
speaking of people who pocket

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:51
i actively attempted to chop someone other than rask and only piled on him when the chance of a vulgard wagon succeeding dissipated

also like

i didn't really play a part in casing rask

if anything i just look like a wolf leashed into bussing his teammate if rask flips wolf

ok but consider: chop lapras

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:51
does anyone want to flash wagon cape :curtain:

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:51
what? No. I don't read people town because they post walls. I was town reading you because I liked your d1 posts. I agreed with multiple thoughts. I haven't reread you because it seems onerous



well, i was hoping to get ANY read on visor. I can usually work pretty well with him on solving and he didn't give me anything to work with

fortunately i am agreeing with ur takes for like

the whole game

so yeah

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:52
Cape, it's EOD, catch up quick but this is not the time when u comment on each and every posts lmao.

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:52
speaking of people who pocket

I am so tempted to like this post tbh

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:53
well that was my first reaction. (like I saw it coming from Ender's first post today)

Then I checked the setup lol. And acknowledged Ender could be saying the truth.

i saw it coming too but i also actively wolfread you. why'd you see it coming if you had no way of knowing you were targeted?

it would make some sense if you thought you looked like you had pr equity and could be targeted by power killer but you specifically guessed you were firefightered and even brought it up specifically before enders claim...like why. that perspective still doesnt make sense to me

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:53
ok I did it.
Cape90 dyachei be the heroes this village needs

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:53
does anyone want to flash wagon cape :curtain:

im the one who posts reaction tests, not you!

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:54
alright well it's not cape/dya/syn bc he doesnt just straight up treat both of his partners that way lol

but i think it's lapras and two of them prob

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:54
VOTE: Lapras

Yeah Lapras is waaay to underwhelming to be town them

...right?

I sure hope so

Otherwise it just makes me question what town are doing

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:55
i saw it coming too but i also actively wolfread you. why'd you see it coming if you had no way of knowing you were targeted?

it would make some sense if you thought you looked like you had pr equity and could be targeted by power killer but you specifically guessed you were firefightered and even brought it up specifically before enders claim...like why. that perspective still doesnt make sense to me

because Ender hadn't do much before today outside spearheading illario's chop. So he wasn't a TR anymore (like I am OK for letting skilled people be out of a tonal read D1... not D3)

Sunbae
03-29-2023, 23:55
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2686

raskolnikov 4 vulgard enderwiggin boquise syn
lapras 3 raskolnikov nutella Cape90
vulgard 1 lapras

Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:55
alright well it's not cape/dya/syn bc he doesnt just straight up treat both of his partners that way lol

but i think it's lapras and two of them prob

vote: Cape90

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:55
ok I did it.
Cape90 dyachei be the heroes this village needs

you were not tooting this horn when nutella was pocketing you

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:56
because Ender hadn't do much before today outside spearheading illario's chop. So he wasn't a TR anymore (like I am OK for letting skilled people be out of a tonal read D1... not D3)

...what

this makes no sense and does not answer any part of my post lol

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:57
im ngl I forgot i had unvoted and never revoted after that for a second

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:57
because Ender hadn't do much before today outside spearheading illario's chop. So he wasn't a TR anymore (like I am OK for letting skilled people be out of a tonal read D1... not D3)

and I didn't say I was firefightered specifically fwiw. what I had in mind was that that role is a liability for the woofs and more so in the late game. So I could see a fancy play from the pack to get another ML and out town PRs.

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:58
...what

this makes no sense and does not answer any part of my post lol

it replies to "why'd you see it coming if you had no way of knowing you were targeted".

I replied to the rest in my subsequent post. I am typing slow, reading slowly etc. bear with me

Sunbae
03-29-2023, 23:58
VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2693

raskolnikov 3 vulgard enderwiggin boquise
lapras 3 raskolnikov nutella Cape90
vulgard 1 lapras
Cape90 1 syn

Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:58
come on do something cool and/or funny

Raskolnikov
03-29-2023, 23:58
vote: Cape90

com on. it's me or lapras friendo

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:59
let it rand lol lmao

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:59
com on. it's me or lapras friendo

i'm considering what would be more chaotic

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:59
vote: rask

No weird cfds today please

Cape90
03-29-2023, 23:59
sighs at Syn

Syn
03-29-2023, 23:59
i cc ender btw lolz

vote: lapras

nutella
03-29-2023, 23:59
vote: rask

No weird cfds today please

ok lapras partner :curtain:

Achro
03-29-2023, 23:59
ok lapras partner :curtain:

Roll eyes

nutella
03-30-2023, 00:00
lmfao

vote: rask

Cape90
03-30-2023, 00:00
i cc ender btw lolz

vote: lapras

i cc

Raskolnikov
03-30-2023, 00:00
vote: rask

No weird cfds today please

ok u lost us the game. switch or town loose

Achro
03-30-2023, 00:00
Gg it was me ans all original 151 pokemon

Sunbae
03-30-2023, 00:01
IT IS NIGHT! PLEASE STOP POSTING!

OR AS BENNEH WOULD SAY, STFU

Sunbae
03-30-2023, 00:01
VOTE TALLY EOD

raskolnikov 5 vulgard enderwiggin boquise achro nutella
lapras 3 raskolnikov Cape90 syn
vulgard 1 lapras


Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.

Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29

Sunbae
03-30-2023, 00:02
Raskolnikov has been chopped! They were Vanilla Town!


It is night! Please stop posting.

Night actions are due at 6pm eastern on 3/30. Please send them to both Benneh and I.

Night will end at 7pm eastern on 3/30.

nebjiamn
03-30-2023, 23:54
Enderwiggin has been killed. They were Town Motion Detector


Majority is in effect. With 8 players remaining the magic number is 5. If you think maj has been reached, please let sunbae and I know

Night will fall in 48 hours at 7pm eastern on 4/1.


PLEASE NOTE: VOTES ARE NOT LOCKED AT MYLO (TODAYS GAME STATE). THEY WILL BE LOCKED AT LYLO.


Voting to SLEEP is an option. There is a potential for short night if sleep is MAJ'd and all players (Privately) agree to a short night. Do not discuss whether you are for or against a short night in the thread.





Alive (10/15):
1. Achro
2. Boquise
3. Cape90
4. dyachei
5. lapras
6. nutella
7. Syn
8. Vulgard






IT IS DAY!

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:00
well

thats certainly going down as my worst last minute vote switch ever

i literally thought syn was outing and snap reacted lmao im so mad

it doesn't even make sense in retrospect i just have a fucking skill issue

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:01
anyway i have had a lot of thoughts about how that went down and who the team can be but we should probably sleep :/

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:02
like i think lapras is pretty much a lock but there is a possible team without him

just with how that eod happened i feel like he has to have been a hit that i threw away stupidly, but. on the off chance, sleep is the correct play

Syn
03-31-2023, 00:02
i will probably just snap vote nutella regardless but sure

vote: sleep

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:04
i will probably just snap vote nutella regardless but sure

vote: sleep

i can explain to you why thats wrong in every world but i doubt youll listen


i dont think its impossible youre a wolf with lapras even with that vote


but i think youre more likely town and just dont know how to read me


i encourage you to reread my reactions to the entire rask saga and imagine how any of what i did could be possible if i had tmi on him

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:06
if im wolf with lapras i never let go of that bus after how much i committed to it

i only made that last second vote because i had a stupid reaction to your post that i could never have if i knew rask was town


if im wolf and lapras is town that still applies, would just let it rand or w/e and keep rask on the table if lapras flipped


i encourage you to think about how i process information and change my mind rapidly and why any of what i did yesterday could have wolf motive rather than just trying to puzzle out a fucking impossible gamestate

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:08
for half of the day i was 99% convinced rask was a hit. for the second half of the day i gradually became skeptical until i ended up feeling lapras was the better bet. i felt reasonably confident in that and just made a stupid mistake when i had less than a minute to react to the vote movement at eod


if youre a wolf and did that to bait me, gj it worked. if youre town who really just wanted lapras to go over, im sorry i fucked it up

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:10
i am really tempted to talk more about my solves but i know its incorrect

i hate everything about this gamestate but at the end of the day it's my fault lapras didn't go over and i have to live with that

Syn
03-31-2023, 00:16
it'll be fine

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:21
i only made that last second vote because i had a stupid reaction to your post that i could never have if i knew rask was town


Syn if you're town, if nothing else i really implore you to understand this. ive made some pretty garbage eod decisions before as well, it's unfortunately a hallmark of my town play to fuck up like that, and i cannot fake the level of lack of tmi that leads to such fuckups. if you look at the early post-md stuff, my confidence there is also not something i could fake if i knew rask was town.

i understand why i can't really be cleared in this gamestate but if you go beyond a surface level understanding of my play it's pretty obvious i cannot be wolfing

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:24
the longer no one else appears with a naked sleep vote the more tempted i am to start posting my solves lol but i know itll taint the nk choice or whatever

idk how anyone can make psychological distinctions between "chill" and "non-chill" games this ones gonna be weighing on me for a while

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:25
think nutella might have perspective slipped yesterday because she said something about how I was going to ML her into the loss but I said i was going to consider her ONLY if rask flipped v

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:26
vote: sleep

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:26
think nutella might have perspective slipped yesterday because she said something about how I was going to ML her into the loss but I said i was going to consider her ONLY if rask flipped v

lol thank you very cool

i was in fact pretty confident rask was v at that point yes, think that was pretty clear

but good to know youre nitpicking for a way to push me after my lack of tmi is obvious in every other aspect of my play

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:27
and like why would i even be considered at all if rask flipped w lol

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:28
but no youre only pulling a very minor detail that is convenient for your goals

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:28
and like why would i even be considered at all if rask flipped w lol

and yet you were freaking out I was considering you at all

very cool nutella

you're obviously a villager. there's no way you could be anything but

especially with your continued push onto a villager

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:28
but no youre only pulling a very minor detail that is convenient for your goals

my goal is to have village win

what's yours?

murder villagers until parity?

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:28
it's lapras/dya/boq or syn/dya/boq, gg, thanks for removing any consideration i had of non-dya-wolf worlds

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:29
it's lapras/dya/boq or syn/dya/boq, gg, thanks for removing any consideration i had of non-dya-wolf worlds

you're bad at reading me or a wolf.

I choose to think you're decent at the game

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:29
and yet you were freaking out I was considering you at all

very cool nutella

you're obviously a villager. there's no way you could be anything but

especially with your continued push onto a villager

you know that eod switch is not in my wolf range. you know it. don't pretend

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:30
you're bad at reading me or a wolf.

I choose to think you're decent at the game

that is where you are wrong

did you see that eod

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:30
you know that eod switch is not in my wolf range. you know it. don't pretend

it's absolutely in both ranges for you

you should know I don't act like this as a wolf

but you're NOT EVEN CONSIDEERING WORLDS WHERE IM NOT A WOLF ANYMORE

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:31
that is where you are wrong

did you see that eod

if you think you're bad at the game, you should reconsider your shitty read on me

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:31
i have 100% screwed this game over and i know it but at least it puts me in some position to finally correctly find the wolves in lylo

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:31
i have 100% screwed this game over and i know it but at least it puts me in some position to finally correctly find the wolves in lylo

and yet you can't imagine a world where I'm a villager


that's game losing

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:31
it's absolutely in both ranges for you

you should know I don't act like this as a wolf

but you're NOT EVEN CONSIDEERING WORLDS WHERE IM NOT A WOLF ANYMORE

i mean i literally just implied that i was considering them overnight until you posted the most contrived bs take on me


so act like you actually care about solving the game and maybe i will go back to considering

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:32
and yet you can't imagine a world where I'm a villager


that's game losing

act like a villager if you want me to imagine it

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:33
before you started posting i literally almost told syn that i thought it was either lapras/syn/boq or lapras/achro/cape. neither including you. maybe work on solving whether it's one of those if you're town

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:33
lapras/achro/cape would be my d1 reads goat world

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:33
act like a villager if you want me to imagine it

I am

your turn

it wasn't contrived either and stop saying shit like that

it was an actual thought I had reading EOD

im so sick and tired of you acting like you're so fucking awesome while you act like anyone who doesn't agree with you is making shit up

I'm done

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:34
it's neither of those because vulgard/cape+1

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:36
acting like you're so fucking awesome



I don't even know what to say to this. I am feeling like the hugest piece of shit in the world since yesterday EOD and I am doing my best to express that regret and SHAME and you think this is what I'm doing??

I fucking HATE myself and my play right now. I spend the entire night phase in absolute DREAD of facing my mistake. No, I'm not fucking awesome.


You're better than this comment.

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:37
I literally tried my best to not think about the game overnight because it made me so upset and I felt like my vote may have singlehandedly lost the game and I'll never get over it. But no I think I'm god's gift to mafia lmfao.

dyachei
03-31-2023, 00:38
I don't even know what to say to this. I am feeling like the hugest piece of shit in the world since yesterday EOD and I am doing my best to express that regret and SHAME and you think this is what I'm doing??

I fucking HATE myself and my play right now. I spend the entire night phase in absolute DREAD of facing my mistake. No, I'm not fucking awesome.


You're better than this comment.

I'm literally fuming at you right now and i'm doing everything I can to not lash out at you

you are acting pretty fucking condescending to me

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:39
I'm literally fuming at you right now and i'm doing everything I can to not lash out at you

you are acting pretty fucking condescending to me

I'm literally sobbing at my desk because of what you said to me but ok.


Let's both go eat something and calm down

nutella
03-31-2023, 00:40
Maybe vulgard is a wolf after all yeah. I didn't think he was without rask but that may be a dump leap I made. I'll think about it.

This is a bad read but I think our fights only get this bad when we're v/v so you get a pass again.