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Sunbae nebjiamn: can one of u confirm the 100 post cap? (it's in the sign up but not in the game thread OP)
otherwise I will post again :curtain:
excuse me
lol I'm gonna stop posting bye
ngl this whole conversation is so hard for me to follow so im kinda ignoring it
ok wisdom v
also yeah i definitely know who lapras is idk if he decided to out after visor asked but its drzeus
why is wisdom v for those?
illario - I like some of illario's poking's on robyn. Admittedly, some posts are pinging me so ima just list them. 139 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843396&highlight=#post2053843396) (context: Rask interpreted 134 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843391&highlight=#post2053843391) as a scumread of Rask when it wasn't. But it was still unsaid that illario actually had a townread at this point on Rask). 83 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843340&highlight=#post2053843340) (referring to illario's early readslist) (insecure?). It's like... I get slight nervous energy from illario but it isn't something that I have used to associate illario's wolf game with i guess but I am more susceptible to suspecting illario when he is town so. (Similar in a way to Vulgard).
this was my read on illario. I could have quoted more posts, it did feel like illario was posting content for the sake of posting content to me at times so yeah, mostly just quoting this so that illario can defend against my vote more LOL.
Lotta question asking, but I do like what illario said in 140 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843397&highlight=#post2053843397) in regards to that. On another hand, sometimes felt a bit defensive/over-explain-y in other areas.
it seems self-explanatory
you're upset that I think your reads hidden in prose walls are inoffensive and safe
you considered giving nutella a town read for being the only one to truly engage you
if you're considering that, it means you acknowledge that you're not affecting the game state with your content
and if you're acknowledging that, it means you cannot actually have a problem with me saying your reads are inoffensive and safe, because that's exactly what they are in that world
and voting me for not immediately saluting and giving an in-depth report on your vulgard read (as proof that your reads are actually quite provocative) is just noise
I am not upset, I am suspicious. I try not to get upset about mafia anymore, doesn't go well for me.
Something not currently being discussed doesn't equate it to to being inoffensive and safe. One is a statement about the content I provided, the other is about how everyone else took it. I asked about the Vulgard read in particular because I remember thinking that a few people early had town reads on Vul while I didn't. So you giving a blanket statement, and then refusing to explain yourself when questioned, only invites misunderstandings of intent if you are town and tries to handwave concern actively if you are scum.
Although judging from this post I am wondering if we are even talking about the same thing here, as we seem to be operating under two different definitions of what inoffensive and safe means.
I can be rather noisy tbh
why is wisdom v for those?
nutella already addressed this.
It is because they believe the progression on Visor looked good. A context that's missing in that post is Wisdom was voting Visor before all that was said on Visor.
nutella already addressed this.
It is because they believe the progression on Visor looked good. A context that's missing in that post is Wisdom was voting Visor before all that was said on Visor.
^same read I had on the situation too and I said it before nut I think, at least my reasoning but not the v-read itself
>rand chance theres a wolf in the early vulgard pushers
achro,ender,syn
>rand chance theres a wolf in the people who didnt sr me or had me as a light town in the beginning
ender,achro,cape
ender and achro are the overlap there so ill probs look into that some time when i get home in 8-10 hours and after i catchup from all the stuff im already behind on.
wtf are u talking about Cape?
Sunbae nebjiamn: can one of u confirm the 100 post cap? (it's in the sign up but not in the game thread OP)
otherwise I will post again :curtain:
look at context, that's all I can tell you since i dont know what ur talking about otherwise, I am guessing you were referring to when i said the "wait that might actually make it wolfier" thing, it's referring to the post before it
>rand chance theres a wolf in the early vulgard pushers
achro,ender,syn
>rand chance theres a wolf in the people who didnt sr me or had me as a light town in the beginning
ender,achro,cape
ender and achro are the overlap there so ill probs look into that some time when i get home in 8-10 hours and after i catchup from all the stuff im already behind on.
oh yeah robyn was in the second list too, but still not in the overlap
Raskolnikov
03-23-2023, 00:28
How good was that progression Cape? As opposed to realizing getting Visor D1 is a peap dream and will just get you outed rather quick?
"deflated"
"flatulences"
>rand chance theres a wolf in the early vulgard pushers
achro,ender,syn
>rand chance theres a wolf in the people who didnt sr me or had me as a light town in the beginning
ender,achro,cape
ender and achro are the overlap there so ill probs look into that some time when i get home in 8-10 hours and after i catchup from all the stuff im already behind on.
you switched (probably) town syn with town cape AAAAAAAAAAAA IM SCARED
Rask is speaking in heiroglyphics help me
like i was townreading visor and hardly had a progression on them? you mean the wisdom thing? I just believed Wisdom's side looked good
you switched (probably) town syn with town cape AAAAAAAAAAAA IM SCARED
i think ur probably town still, i just included u in there for the sake of clarity
Raskolnikov
03-23-2023, 00:36
Rask is speaking in heiroglyphics help me
ok sorry, it's late. (I hate you for making me burning another post, when my first one was perfectly clear :curtain:)
What was good in Wisdom's progression? which lies in this very post:
Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it
and the word "deflated'"?
(you find me cryptic because you are scrolling through the thread and missed my joke post about flatulences. not sure I will forgive you and not death tunnel you for it. I'll try but no promise)
to clarify the point of that post was to see where the two overlap. that doesnt necessarily mean just for existing in one line that makes someone a wolf, and even the overlaps can be town for all i know. but i personally think its very strange when vulgard was inno child posting for someone to think his posts are wolfy whilst simulatenously thinking my posts were fine lol, esp when vulgard was posting much better than me.
you also have the people who called out as w/w, which is probably more of a >rand v take because its so ridiculous that i dont think anyone with tmi would make such a take lol. id argue vulgard is the one person i dont have any w/w equity with so far in the lobby
>rand chance theres a wolf in the early vulgard pushers
achro,ender,syn
>rand chance theres a wolf in the people who didnt sr me or had me as a light town in the beginning
ender,achro,cape
ender and achro are the overlap there so ill probs look into that some time when i get home in 8-10 hours and after i catchup from all the stuff im already behind on.
I have no interest in trying to read you early tbh. I thought I had something in a mash with you day 1 and you ended up quitting and flipping town.
I also don't see what you see in vul atm.
okay i might be understanding what Rask is saying since he suspects Wisdom.
It's partially a meta thing, Wisdom!town likes making meta reads. There is only 1 Wisdom wolf game I have seen where they seemed like a pretty obvious wolf
I will see how things play out, I was fairly unimpressed by how they popped in a lil bit earlier
I kinda agree with the deflated term though
but I would change it from that to "dry" as I did in my readslist. It came off more dry then deflated to me.
Raskolnikov
03-23-2023, 00:53
okay i might be understanding what Rask is saying since he suspects Wisdom.
It's partially a meta thing, Wisdom!town likes making meta reads. There is only 1 Wisdom wolf game I have seen where they seemed like a pretty obvious wolf
I will see how things play out, I was fairly unimpressed by how they popped in a lil bit earlier
Why do you dodge the question while simultaneously speaking to other people and not me AND taking your read back? lol
You are talking about the meta read which I summed up with deflated. I was talking about their progression, which you found good. How was it good? The meta read was preexistent I assume.
looking at how the thread is progressing just convinces me more that lapras might indeed be a wolf
nobody is talking about him
nobody has told me why he's town after i asked for reasons why he's town twice
all he's done since the earlygame was omgus (this is slightly unfair but i don't remember him doing anything other than questioning my push on him and then voting me)
i'd likely be re-evaluating the early gut feeling i had on him if not for the fact he hasn't given me a reason to do so and the complete lack of willingness to discuss his slot makes me think he's getting overlooked
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i think nutella's posts are fine and visor's posts are whatever, nutella slight town, visor down to null
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@ achro i'm not really sure what you're doing this game to be honest, i think the best parts of your posting are the parts where you're pushing me because unlike everyone else you actually have reasons for it but that could be my bias
i probably sound more frustrated than i actually am as i say this
in regard to my treatment of lapras, the read did feel kinda stale but i asked other people for reads on the slot several times and the slot hasn't done anything to alter my opinion in any way so my early gut feeling turned into a vote and now seeing the threadstate go the way that it has i'm suspecting i might just be correct
you alluded to me not questioning lapras or something but there's nothing to question him about, he hasn't really been producing content, he just asked about my read on him and then voted me
there's nothing to work with here
and if he's town i realize that this push on him from me likely isn't helping, but also if he's town then i frankly expect better from him
basically regardless of alignment's he's not exactly being helpful, but couple that with how the thread seems to be treating him and how i had a negative gut feeling about his early-game posting (which is his most substantive posting, also i went back to the post that made me think he's maybe mafia and i still think it's wolfy), i think this is worth pursuing
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i don't particularly like the push on wisdom, i don't have a strong tr on wisdom but it feels more like a lazy wagon / shot in the dark to me than anything, nobody really gave good reasons other than "this post wolfy" which is technically the same thing as me talking about lapras but fmpov there is a greater number of factors in my lapras read
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push on boq is... okay i guess but i've no idea how he plays wolf, he kinda just hasn't played the game imo
meh as i was writing this i realized that i'm just singling out lapras based on a gut feeling but i do think it's strange that nobody can formulate a reason for him being town yet he isn't talked about or suspected or anything (unlike wisdom, boquise, nutella until recently...)
i'm just going to sheep the v reads on cape because apparently everyone but me can read him and i've never been burned on trusting the Consensus Cape Read before
i have no comments about illario's current thought process until he finishes it
looking at how the thread is progressing just convinces me more that lapras might indeed be a wolf
nobody is talking about him
nobody has told me why he's town after i asked for reasons why he's town twice
all he's done since the earlygame was omgus (this is slightly unfair but i don't remember him doing anything other than questioning my push on him and then voting me)
i'd likely be re-evaluating the early gut feeling i had on him if not for the fact he hasn't given me a reason to do so and the complete lack of willingness to discuss his slot makes me think he's getting overlooked
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i think nutella's posts are fine and visor's posts are whatever, nutella slight town, visor down to null
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@ achro i'm not really sure what you're doing this game to be honest, i think the best parts of your posting are the parts where you're pushing me because unlike everyone else you actually have reasons for it but that could be my bias
i probably sound more frustrated than i actually am as i say this
in regard to my treatment of lapras, the read did feel kinda stale but i asked other people for reads on the slot several times and the slot hasn't done anything to alter my opinion in any way so my early gut feeling turned into a vote and now seeing the threadstate go the way that it has i'm suspecting i might just be correct
you alluded to me not questioning lapras or something but there's nothing to question him about, he hasn't really been producing content, he just asked about my read on him and then voted me
there's nothing to work with here
and if he's town i realize that this push on him from me likely isn't helping, but also if he's town then i frankly expect better from him
basically regardless of alignment's he's not exactly being helpful, but couple that with how the thread seems to be treating him and how i had a negative gut feeling about his early-game posting (which is his most substantive posting, also i went back to the post that made me think he's maybe mafia and i still think it's wolfy), i think this is worth pursuing
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i don't particularly like the push on wisdom, i don't have a strong tr on wisdom but it feels more like a lazy wagon / shot in the dark to me than anything, nobody really gave good reasons other than "this post wolfy" which is technically the same thing as me talking about lapras but fmpov there is a greater number of factors in my lapras read
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push on boq is... okay i guess but i've no idea how he plays wolf, he kinda just hasn't played the game imo
meh as i was writing this i realized that i'm just singling out lapras based on a gut feeling but i do think it's strange that nobody can formulate a reason for him being town yet he isn't talked about or suspected or anything (unlike wisdom, boquise, nutella until recently...)
This might sound stupid but I am not really sure what I am doing either, so I am hoping to use you as a foundation throughout the day to see how I feel about things.
People aren't really sticking with me this game, but you are someone I am familiar with and despite some interpersonal dysfunction at times we've lynched a lot of wolves together.
So if my early hunch on you is right then huzzah, got you. If it is wrong I have thus far been able to find you in previous games so am not too pressed about it.
Lapras is a tough one for me because I have no idea what is going on there whenever I read them in real time except they have failed to vote correctly like 8 times.
Does this site have an iso feature?
cape/rask/ender/syn are my townreads
cape is a sheep of the thread
rask is kinda osmosis but i'm ok with this osmosis
ender i think had a towny way of getting to a v read on syn
and i think syn is v because of the way in which ender got to a v read there, i think those reads are typically correct
others are realistically just light town pings at best, i don't feel like most players have really played the game yet
cleared my d1 bar of towniness:
Boq
Cape
illario
Rask
Syn
Vulgard
Wisdom
POE:
Lapras
Achro
Dya
Ladd
Visor
Ender?
Robyn?
Ender/Robyn are in a middling spot where I probably won't vote them today but can't really say they've been towny
actually i think i should include nutella, i think her posts have been fine so far
forgot about robyn, robyn can be town too
six is ~okay i guess
This might sound stupid but I am not really sure what I am doing either, so I am hoping to use you as a foundation throughout the day to see how I feel about things.
People aren't really sticking with me this game, but you are someone I am familiar with and despite some interpersonal dysfunction at times we've lynched a lot of wolves together.
So if my early hunch on you is right then huzzah, got you. If it is wrong I have thus far been able to find you in previous games so am not too pressed about it.
Lapras is a tough one for me because I have no idea what is going on there whenever I read them in real time except they have failed to vote correctly like 8 times.
Does this site have an iso feature?
go back to the main subforum and click on the number of replies for the thread, then click the number of replies again next to the person you want to ISO
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:03
>rand chance theres a wolf in the early vulgard pushers
achro,ender,syn
>rand chance theres a wolf in the people who didnt sr me or had me as a light town in the beginning
ender,achro,cape
ender and achro are the overlap there so ill probs look into that some time when i get home in 8-10 hours and after i catchup from all the stuff im already behind on.
Don't talk like that to me or my son ever again.
cleared my d1 bar of towniness:
Boq
Cape
illario
Rask
Syn
Vulgard
Wisdom
POE:
Lapras
Achro
Dya
Ladd
Visor
Ender?
Robyn?
Ender/Robyn are in a middling spot where I probably won't vote them today but can't really say they've been towny
i'm sorry nutella but minus ender/robyn this list looks like "sort by game impact"
which is honestly kinda towny in this gamestate fmpov
maybe i was a bit premature on ender but i think his tr on syn makes syn town in almost every world either way
nobody has told me why he's town after i asked for reasons why he's town twice
i don't really care about the rest of this post but i do think it's silly to expect people to have thoughtful town reads on someone in the first 24 hours of D1
maybe being under the radar matters once there's been a couple flips but in the early early game? who cares tbh
i'm sorry nutella but minus ender/robyn this list looks like "sort by game impact"
which is honestly kinda towny in this gamestate fmpov
pretty fair maybe but the trs have all stuck out to me as towny at some point for one reason or another
also the way you describe your feeling on lapras makes me feel even better about him being a hit (as did his reaction earlier)
and your trs on ender and robyn are enough for me to keep them in a higher tier for now
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:06
Vote: Lapras
Sheeping ended with Syn.
Vulgard is my new sheep target now.
i don't really care about the rest of this post but i do think it's silly to expect people to have thoughtful town reads on someone in the first 24 hours of D1
maybe being under the radar matters once there's been a couple flips but in the early early game? who cares tbh
people were putting lapras in townreads though, or at least there were some implications of people townreading lapras
surely there were reasons for that right? i'm not even asking for a towncase, just a reason
maybe i was a bit premature on ender but i think his tr on syn makes syn town in almost every world either way
this is incoherent
what is this
pretty fair maybe but the trs have all stuck out to me as towny at some point for one reason or another
also the way you describe your feeling on lapras makes me feel even better about him being a hit (as did his reaction earlier)
and your trs on ender and robyn are enough for me to keep them in a higher tier for now
by the way what was it you mentioned about a postcap? i just checked op and the modposts under it and i didn't see mention of a postcap
people were putting lapras in townreads though, or at least there were some implications of people townreading lapras
surely there were reasons for that right? i'm not even asking for a towncase, just a reason
it's their favourite digimon character idk
this is incoherent
what is this
maybe my townread on ender was a bit premature, but even if i'm wrong on ender and he's a wolf, i think the way in which he townread you should just make you a villager
i'm still leaning town on him
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:09
maybe my townread on ender was a bit premature, but even if i'm wrong on ender and he's a wolf, i think the way in which he townread you should just make you a villager
i'm still leaning town on him
Don't look too closely at the pocket.
Sigh
Wisdom voted Visor "unironically" then unvoted later on with their meta reason provided. Given the fact that Wisdom described Visor's play as deflated, I would assume it would just be so easy for mafia Wisdom to try pushing that angle onto Visor if Wisdom is mafia right? Instead Wisdom pretty much immediately gave up on it after, I am assuming, reading more stuff, which is reflected in Wisdom's logs.
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:11
Wisdom I also wolfread btw but it's like a hot can of soup that I can't really delve into yet. Waiting for it to cool.
go back to the main subforum and click on the number of replies for the thread, then click the number of replies again next to the person you want to ISO
Being helpful pocket accepted
unvote: Syn
Being helpful pocket accepted
unvote: Syn
pizza would say being helpful is wolf indicative
cc: traumatized vulgard
Being helpful pocket accepted
unvote: Syn
i really didn't think you would townread such a thing
pizza would say being helpful is wolf indicative
cc: traumatized vulgard
you have no idea actually
to this day i struggle to believe that game was real, apparently me just playing the game as a villager means i stumble into 5942952894527 wolftells
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:14
you have no idea actually
to this day i struggle to believe that game was real, apparently me just playing the game as a villager means i stumble into 5942952894527 wolftells
You do I can confirm.
I remember first time I played a game with town you I was convinced you were wolf
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:14
Might have been skill issue on my part tho.
nah i do think there has to be some truth to it if most people default to wolfreading me
still wasn't very pleasant to be on the receiving end of that tunnel though
Vulgard
post cap: 100 lifted 1 hr before eod
is in the signup thread but wasn't confirmed in game thread
i honestly have no idea how people are getting their reads on wisdom and visor, i don't think either of them has done anything yet other than having a little hands-off back-and-forth that's maaaaaybe not w/w
mind explaining?
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:17
i honestly have no idea how people are getting their reads on wisdom and visor, i don't think either of them has done anything yet other than having a little hands-off back-and-forth that's maaaaaybe not w/w
mind explaining?
Visor gave me the double-blind wink handshake with a backward twist and a poptab handover.
He never does that as wolf.
Vulgard
is in the signup thread but wasn't confirmed in game thread
well shit how do i count my posts
this is where i would post a joycat as a tone marker as i suck at using emojis but there is no joycat
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:18
As for Wisdom I just hated the whole "Deflated" read and it read like a forced read.
the best reason i have to townread visor is based on what rask said about him playing the early-game differently from his last wolfgame here, which i went to verify and confirmed as true
the problem is that obviously he would want to play the early-game differently if he randed wolf here again, he even said as much himself
which doesn't really make him a wolf but it does make this reason... not very good imo lol
Raskolnikov
03-23-2023, 01:19
Ender lolcatting D1 before being outed is a new one. It's cool I agree with most of his votes though.
GN gamers
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:20
Ender lolcatting D1 before being outed is a new one. It's cool I agree with most of his votes though.
GN gamers
Can't be caught lolcatting if I'm always lolcatting.
*Taps forehead*
EnderWiggin
03-23-2023, 01:22
the best reason i have to townread visor is based on what rask said about him playing the early-game differently from his last wolfgame here, which i went to verify and confirmed as true
the problem is that obviously he would want to play the early-game differently if he randed wolf here again, he even said as much himself
which doesn't really make him a wolf but it does make this reason... not very good imo lol
It's this kind of hedging that I instinctually scumread when I first ran into you btw. You just have this explaining style that makes it look like you're fence sitting even when you're not really.
I like it now I've seen more of it but first gut reaction is definitely wolfy.
Raskolnikov
03-23-2023, 01:23
the best reason i have to townread visor is based on what rask said about him playing the early-game differently from his last wolfgame here, which i went to verify and confirmed as true
the problem is that obviously he would want to play the early-game differently if he randed wolf here again, he even said as much himself
which doesn't really make him a wolf but it does make this reason... not very good imo lol
Yes and I said that much too (in the very next post). I do think he is in his town meta rn (ask for friends about this but I am good with him rn).
Don't touch this guy btw ^^ He is town.
Cape: get back to me or kill me :bow:
gudknights
i really didn't think you would townread such a thing
less: townread
more: going to sit down to re-evaluate slots at some point using isos and I was trying to be funny.
It's this kind of hedging that I instinctually scumread when I first ran into you btw. You just have this explaining style that makes it look like you're fence sitting even when you're not really.
I like it now I've seen more of it but first gut reaction is definitely wolfy.
huh, maybe you're right
that's just kinda how i play though so i don't think i will change it even if it brings me suffering
as a mafia player, i am already accustomed to bringing myself suffering by signing up to games
I was trying to be funny.
wolfy, villagers don't have to try
wolfy, villagers don't have to try
:bigcry:
Lapras iso whoo.
Claims they are a Lapras twice, filler, filler, calls robyn tring cape/visor a stretch (probably not w/w with either of those two), Lapras chooses to keep their secrets from illario, questions robyn about cape's range, gives robyn a town read based on that answer...
It's at this point Vulgard steps in to vote Lapras. Tells vulgard to just call it what it is, which is shade. Says Vul is town for multi tiered thinking but hedges with vul's wolfing skills. Likes Rask' manner of dealing with pressure. Tone reads Syn town. Says wiz could be wolfing. Comes along with Cape being town due to his analysis.
Tbh vulgard i dont see why my particular brand of reads and one liners is at all wolfy?
How is it different from like wisdom or boq?
Lapras this is a very strange question to ask when you consider the fact that you said this:
Bet im right though
Think wiz might be wolfing though
To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.
Lapras also didn't comment on me at all, smh.
You are soz honey
My point tho was that we all be chillin and i dont think vul had any interest in solving me. Its a pre deciddd tunnel thats not reevaluated as others have provided thoughts
I still don't get how you arrive to that specific question naturally, but I'll iso vul later to see how this suspicion fits within the flow of vul's posting about Lapras today.
Lapras iso whoo.
Claims they are a Lapras twice, filler, filler, calls robyn tring cape/visor a stretch (probably not w/w with either of those two), Lapras chooses to keep their secrets from illario, questions robyn about cape's range, gives robyn a town read based on that answer...
It's at this point Vulgard steps in to vote Lapras. Tells vulgard to just call it what it is, which is shade. Says Vul is town for multi tiered thinking but hedges with vul's wolfing skills. Likes Rask' manner of dealing with pressure. Tone reads Syn town. Says wiz could be wolfing. Comes along with Cape being town due to his analysis.
Lapras this is a very strange question to ask when you consider the fact that you said this:
To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.
Lapras also didn't comment on me at all, smh.
I still don't get how you arrive to that specific question naturally, but I'll iso vul later to see how this suspicion fits within the flow of vul's posting about Lapras today.
All this said Lapras has a surprising amount of takes woven throughout the thread and I am glad I iso'd to remember them as I recalled nothing the first time around. Would love to hear their thoughts on why they compared themselves to a scum read though.
nutella prob v
cape prob v
today was a shit day at work with my associate telling us we never support her and that all of our techs are lazy and dont do work. thus she will no longer work saturdays and will no longer perform surgeries on thurs. her hours are normally wed-fri and every other saturday
have been dealing with the fallout from this all day so i'm sorry im not more present or tuned into this game
cape/nutella/ander/achro/vulgard/rask?
town
I have no interest in trying to read you early tbh. I thought I had something in a mash with you day 1 and you ended up quitting and flipping town.
I also don't see what you see in vul atm.
Pretty sure I got n1d
nutella prob v
cape prob v
today was a shit day at work with my associate telling us we never support her and that all of our techs are lazy and dont do work. thus she will no longer work saturdays and will no longer perform surgeries on thurs. her hours are normally wed-fri and every other saturday
have been dealing with the fallout from this all day so i'm sorry im not more present or tuned into this game
Dang sorry about that
Honestly I can see illario as wolf this game off seeming to have been "trying too hard to fit into the game in RVS"
I got those vibes and Rask probs did too.
I don?t think that?s what rask scumread me for? What gave you those vibes from me anyways ?
nebjiamn
03-23-2023, 04:11
Votes as of Post #570 -- Day ends in idk, 19 hours 50 minutes or something
Nutella (2) Visor Raskolnikov
Lapras (3) Vulgard Nutella EnderWiggin
Vulgard (1) Syn
Illario (1) Cape90
Pretty sure I got n1d
You got shot by town (I think) after I pushed you a lot of the day. My point wasn't that I successfully pushed you over, but that I was aggressively wrong.
Letting you cook given your track record feels like a harmless exercise.
nebjiamn
03-23-2023, 04:23
MOD Q&A!
Q: Is there a post cap? Nothing shows in the OP.
A: Yes, there is a post-cap of 100 posts per day phase that is lifted 1 hour prior to EOD. Given this is harder to track on this forum without automated post and vote-counters, I don't think we're suuuper interested in enforcing this or particularly care if you happen to actually post 102 times before EOD.
Like most things related to this game and game thread, don't take this ruling and do angleshooty things with it. The point of the post-cap is to keep the game thread manageable for people of various activity levels. If you hit 100 and absolutely have to make one more post to prove a point we won't punish you for it. In fact, if its a well-timed GIF we'll probably give your team a reward.
On the other hand, if you hit 100 posts and you continue to post tier-based-list rewrites and edits and backstory justification for your toan reedz to the point that even George R.R. Martin thinks you could stfu and ship your ISO to publishing already, we won't like that.
Bty syn seems pretty towny by toan
i can't read syn too well i think but if he is town i trust his reads
i'm fairly sure dz is town here
that would be spicy if those interactions between vulgard/illario were w/w there, I kinda doubt it though.
I have... questions about illario's early read on me
I love misreading Vulgard as a hobby so idk what alignment they could be this game.
Have you asked me those questions yet? Watcha waiting for?
If it comes later feel free to ignore this, im checking the thread In small pockets of availability that I have so I?ll probs see it eventually
You got shot by town (I think) after I pushed you a lot of the day. My point wasn't that I successfully pushed you over, but that I was aggressively wrong.
Letting you cook given your track record feels like a harmless exercise.
Nah mac was wolf and shot me
Im an expert 1 hander with ma lil puddin'
If the people from the boomer mash were still here they?d be having a field day with you again
I just checked and I was part of a town aligned council that had a vig and I voted to shoot you n1 and when you died n1 I assumed I caused it along with my unknown council members but if it was explained later I missed it.
It's the thought that counts.
I keep forgetting the ? And ‘ are switched on my phone now
I just checked and I was part of a town aligned council that had a vig and I voted to shoot you n1 and when you died n1 I assumed I caused it along with my unknown council members but if it was explained later I missed it.
It's the thought that counts.
LOL ‘tis bubba
Nah my only read is Visor v.
Boq w is my pet read
Hmmm my dilemma is if wisdom is being scummy town of just scum. I kinda like this post maybe, think she would force more at this point as a wolf? And I kinda see what she?s getting at with boq. I?d probs have to refresh myself with her scum game if I ever get the time
i hate this list but you're town
Why do u hate it? It seems like the most reasonable world view I?ve seen so far, but maybe I?m biased since every other worldview I seen involves me and vuldaddy being wolves l
Okay nah there’s just something going on with the site because I am sure I used an apostrophe on those
I will talk to you about Vulgard l8r if you ping me. I do think there is one in Vulg/nut. Wisdom wolf. Dz maybe?
gonna need you to explain one in nutella/vulgard
Why do u hate it? It seems like the most reasonable world view I?ve seen so far, but maybe I?m biased since every other worldview I seen involves me and vuldaddy being wolves l
only read i disagree with on that list is wisdom but i haven't really seen that much from her thus far so i don't have an actual critique besides a lack of a tr
what's ur read on me illario?
and ur gonna low effort this game?
I think i want to town read cape for actually digesting Achro's post tbh
uhhhhhh not a good post chief
i can't read syn too well i think but if he is town i trust his reads
:stare:
uhhhhhh not a good post chief
If I had a nickel everytime someone called me chief and shaded a post of mine in this game I would have two nickels. Which isn't much, but it is still something
Why isn't it good?
MOD NOTE
OP updated with post restriction information. My mistake.
only read i disagree with on that list is wisdom but i haven't really seen that much from her thus far so i don't have an actual critique besides a lack of a tr
what's ur read on me illario?
and ur gonna low effort this game?
Not sure lol
Depends if any of the day phases line up on a day I have off lol
My read on you is that you’re mostly fine but keeping an eye there still
nutella wisdom w/w :curtain:
Can you talk me through this one chief
can I be a chief
Only If you bury a mafia today
Caught up.
Town for today:
Cape
Dya?(solid 1 post lol)
Ender
Visor
Wolf for today
Achro
Boq
Nutella?
Rask
Syn
Forgot they played
Illario
Robyn
Vulgard
<Sorry everyone else that I forgot>
Oh it's a 15er so I must have forgotten another two people.
Ladd and Lapras, no read on Ladd, also no read on Lapras.
I was just browsing vul's iso and he didn't seem like he particularly was predetermined on murdering Lapras like Lapras claimed in their post discussing vul earlier. Reading vul's iso he reminds me of a game we played together on fol day 1 where he prodded around a bunch while maintaining a steady read on someone so I guess vul is alright for now.
Caught up.
Town for today:
Cape
Dya?(solid 1 post lol)
Ender
Visor
Wolf for today
Achro
Boq
Nutella?
Rask
Syn
Forgot they played
Illario
Robyn
Vulgard
<Sorry everyone else that I forgot>
Hello Wisdom. Have you played with rask before?
Hello Wisdom. Have you played with rask before?
10 games or so?
I think I've only seen him wolf when I've wolfed before.
I find his treatment of me a bit too non-commital and I think his focus isn't really on catching wolves. However, that applies to Syn too and I don't think they're w/w.
However, I'm more used to being town read by wolves than wolf read by wolves (or at least those wolves who has wolf read me lately has been kinda outting about it). That's what made me read Cape wrong last time, but I think he's just town now. Boq has made a similar town read on me as town before but I feel that he's being a bit... empty right now.
Meanwhile Syn's and Rask's wolf read on me seems to mostly be for shiz and giggles (We're out of game friends fyi).
Welcome to Wisdom reads people based on how they read them.
10 games or so?
I think I've only seen him wolf when I've wolfed before.
I find his treatment of me a bit too non-commital and I think his focus isn't really on catching wolves. However, that applies to Syn too and I don't think they're w/w.
Ah I was going go ask if he is the type of wolf to fake not knowing who I was. Earlier we had a conversation where he thought I was someone named Tim and I thought this likely made rask uninformed.
Boquise hi. Earlier you said I processed vul fast and I quoted you with a question mark. This was meant to signify I didn't know what you were talking about. While I have you here, earlier you townread cape for digesting my posts but upon reading your iso you have not given a single thought about me in either direction. Am I that uninteresting? What do you think of the game state so far? Are we likely to catch a wolf today?
Also unless people chime in specifically saying rask would think to act uninformed about my identity I think your vote is misplaced.
I liked your RP btw Achro.
I find phone posting to be weird here so I read more than I write when I'm not at pc, but still wanted to point that out :>
I liked your RP btw Achro.
I find phone posting to be weird here so I read more than I write when I'm not at pc, but still wanted to point that out :>
If I am alive day 2 I will bring it back. I enjoyed doing it but no one was saying anything to me while I did it so that was probably going to do more harm than good today.
I enjoy reading people based off how they read me too. Something something known variables.
Ah I was going go ask if he is the type of wolf to fake not knowing who I was. Earlier we had a conversation where he thought I was someone named Tim and I thought this likely made rask uninformed.
Boquise hi. Earlier you said I processed vul fast and I quoted you with a question mark. This was meant to signify I didn't know what you were talking about. While I have you here, earlier you townread cape for digesting my posts but upon reading your iso you have not given a single thought about me in either direction. Am I that uninteresting? What do you think of the game state so far? Are we likely to catch a wolf today?
Also unless people chime in specifically saying rask would think to act uninformed about my identity I think your vote is misplaced.
I think that's NAI of Rask. As I recall he wasn't present during your existance-arc on mu, and him referring Tim is just because Tim was a prominent player from the same site as Rask but have been MIA since he got canceled.
good chat everyone, we'll reconvene tomorrow
If I am alive day 2 I will bring it back. I enjoyed doing it but no one was saying anything to me while I did it so that was probably going to do more harm than good today.
I enjoy reading people based off how they read me too. Something something known variables.
Something something indeed.
I think that's NAI of Rask. As I recall he wasn't present during your existance-arc on mu, and him referring Tim is just because Tim was a prominent player from the same site as Rask but have been MIA since he got canceled.
What I mean is I typically expect scum teams to discuss players among themselves and at least id everyone. I know some scum would exploit this line of thought to appear uninformed. I have no doubt that rask wouldn't know me otherwise.
my tired work brain thinks wisdoms recent posts are decent
good chat everyone, we'll reconvene tomorrow
Come back we haven't interacted enough they will catch on we are w/w if we don't have a back and forth.
wisdom/cape probs the closest to solving the game atm if theyre villas so id kinda leave both be probs
Lapras iso whoo.
Claims they are a Lapras twice, filler, filler, calls robyn tring cape/visor a stretch (probably not w/w with either of those two), Lapras chooses to keep their secrets from illario, questions robyn about cape's range, gives robyn a town read based on that answer...
It's at this point Vulgard steps in to vote Lapras. Tells vulgard to just call it what it is, which is shade. Says Vul is town for multi tiered thinking but hedges with vul's wolfing skills. Likes Rask' manner of dealing with pressure. Tone reads Syn town. Says wiz could be wolfing. Comes along with Cape being town due to his analysis.
Lapras this is a very strange question to ask when you consider the fact that you said this:
To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.
Lapras also didn't comment on me at all, smh.
I still don't get how you arrive to that specific question naturally, but I'll iso vul later to see how this suspicion fits within the flow of vul's posting about Lapras today.
Achro
Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.
I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.
Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch
Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.
Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it
Also fwiw ive had a baby and am quite busy + 1 handed phone posting when i do play. I subbed in as was asked by ben + robyn had been hounding me to play
Dont expect me to post walls or in depth thoughts or isoing or anything
What I mean is I typically expect scum teams to discuss players among themselves and at least id everyone. I know some scum would exploit this line of thought to appear uninformed. I have no doubt that rask wouldn't know me otherwise.
Mmmmaybe? I mean, I can see him wolfing, just not sure that's a reason I'm vibing with. I rarely do an id check on players as wolf unless to pocket someone.
On another note bff is sleeping on my shoulder and my fingers are numb send help
Achro
Because the reasons vul is tunnelled on me (which imo as you show isnt even true) doesnt only apply to me. It applies to other people.
I wolf read some of those ppl but not becahse of the reason vul wolf reads me, because of my own reasons.
Also- vul is saying no one is talking about me when im like effectively top wagon which actually seems towny cuz its so out of touch
Im either at hes a wolf doing the classic d1 power wolf vibe where you identtify an early scum read n just focus on that. Neopest in both champs game for e.g.
Flip is hes a tunnelled town really actually thinking hes found a wolf but ill just say its gunna be embarrassing when i flip town for him given:
A) others are acting like i did wrt the reasons hes scum reading me
B) some ppl with meta reads are tring me
C) hes writing reams about it
I will say I liked your content until that interaction tbh. I was surprised how much you had managed to say. I don't like how you phrased it still but maybe that's me seeing a shadow thats not there.
But otoh I don't think he has done a big tunnel on you or anything. I just iso'd him and made a note but he has been poking around as well. Based on the fact that I think both of you are off base and kind of going at it I feel like you could both easily be town here. While you both have this and that I don't love ultimately you both have actually provided a decent array of content today and haven't actually been staring any one thing down tbh.
So if not for vul who else is catching your eye negatively? I will also accept possible vul scumbuddies of you insist on narrowing in on vul but I want to know where you are atm
Mmmmaybe? I mean, I can see him wolfing, just not sure that's a reason I'm vibing with. I rarely do an id check on players as wolf unless to pocket someone.
To be clear I think he is town, Wisdom. I am town reading rask for not knowing me.
the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions
---
also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him
achro writing us (me and lapras) off as v/v here intuitively pings me as wolfy but I guess I can see it coming from town specifically because it's achro
To be clear I think he is town, Wisdom. I am town reading rask for not knowing me.
Oh I thought you meant he was faking it
Confbias go brrrr
lapras do you have any wolfreads that aren't omgus
the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions
---
also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him
Well hey now you've got mine.
Speaking of illario - what about cape and Wisdom sprcifically make you think their solves are good?
achro writing us (me and lapras) off as v/v here intuitively pings me as wolfy but I guess I can see it coming from town specifically because it's achro
Man I know it ended with me being towny but that read was hard earned after isoing both of you and thinking of how you two have talked past each other a bit. Come on 'write off'
Oh I thought you meant he was faking it
Confbias go brrrr
Hah yeah I saw he was in your wolf camp so I asked you about it so I can say I disagree with that read pretty strongly unless there is evidence he is that level of sneaky. If you iso rask you can see how he said it. Felt super genuine.
lapras do you have any wolfreads that aren't omgus
Iso me imo
the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions
---
also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him
its still there lol, i just havent followed it up. notice how both are in wisdoms poe and i said i like where her solve is heading?
sap, not gonna be mega useful today prob but i managed to skim a bit
think boq feels the worst to me tho it's not really a SUPER wolf read or anything
oh wait wisdom has ender as town, ill have to see what happened there
the thing is that I recognize I could be tunneled but that's why I kept asking for other people's opinions
---
also it seems that illario dropped his train of thought from earlier in regard to achro/ender and I'm mulling over what this means for him
Just fwiw i dont think youve been engsging ppl for opinions on right way which is why i fond it suss
There are ppl town reading me , ask them specifically to engage you to get info
There are ppl sponging your read- rask, nut.
I think your just wall dropping
To be fair though ive not read or registered the full game
Well hey now you've got mine.
Speaking of illario - what about cape and Wisdom sprcifically make you think their solves are good?
hmm dont really have specifics lol. i just like where theyre heading and i think theyre more correct than any other solves ive seen so far
On another note bff is sleeping on my shoulder and my fingers are numb send help
No help needed thats a treat
sap, not gonna be mega useful today prob but i managed to skim a bit
think boq feels the worst to me tho it's not really a SUPER wolf read or anything
can u elaborate?
Man I know it ended with me being towny but that read was hard earned after isoing both of you and thinking of how you two have talked past each other a bit. Come on 'write off'
oh i didn't mean it in that way
just having that v/v take is uh
a somewhat questionable way of handling the situation fmpov but maybe i'm biased and i already said i can see it coming from town because it's you so w/e
its still there lol, i just havent followed it up. notice how both are in wisdoms poe and i said i like where her solve is heading?
fair enough
Iso me imo
you have one comment about wisdom being wolfy and then it's all about me which is omgus
do you still wolfread wisdom?
can u elaborate?
yeah i'm interested as well
oh i didn't mean it in that way
just having that v/v take is uh
a somewhat questionable way of handling the situation fmpov but maybe i'm biased and i already said i can see it coming from town because it's you so w/e
fair enough
you have one comment about wisdom being wolfy and then it's all about me which is omgus
do you still wolfread wisdom?
I dont think it is?
Ive got robyn as towny fs, tr syn by tone, think capes now reallt towny which i spoke about AND early on trd you too (bjt now i see wolf angle.)
I found wizzs town n entry kinda wolfy but ive nlt verified it was a gut tone thing.
Rask i found super wolfy but then thought he handled pressure really well so towny too
Boq/illario im gunna wait before deciding cuz i can go either way on both
Just fwiw i dont think youve been engsging ppl for opinions on right way which is why i fond it suss
There are ppl town reading me , ask them specifically to engage you to get info
There are ppl sponging your read- rask, nut.
I think your just wall dropping
To be fair though ive not read or registered the full game
fmpov if people do actually care enough about their townreads they will defend them on their own especially when prompted
I dont think it is?
Ive got robyn as towny fs, tr syn by tone, think capes now reallt towny which i spoke about AND early on trd you too (bjt now i see wolf angle.)
I found wizzs town n entry kinda wolfy but ive nlt verified it was a gut tone thing.
Rask i found super wolfy but then thought he handled pressure really well so towny too
Boq/illario im gunna wait before deciding cuz i can go either way on both
what are you struggling with me about? i feel like im kinda playing like turbo illario here and u seem to find me there decently well enough
I dont think it is?
Ive got robyn as towny fs, tr syn by tone, think capes now reallt towny which i spoke about AND early on trd you too (bjt now i see wolf angle.)
I found wizzs town n entry kinda wolfy but ive nlt verified it was a gut tone thing.
Rask i found super wolfy but then thought he handled pressure really well so towny too
Boq/illario im gunna wait before deciding cuz i can go either way on both
hm our townreads look similar at least
who's wizz? visor?
im going to town read ender for being relatable
got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either
my biggest problem is his wisdom read:
That is the first post I side-eye in this game
but knowing how Wis usually posts as town and how they can get scum read by phrasings like that, I am leaning to town read that
this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:
it is wednesday my dudes and i bring you news from the front
wisdom is a wolf
Nah
feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah
i have caught wolves before with this tell
and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq
(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)
what are you struggling with me about? i feel like im kinda playing like turbo illario here and u seem to find me there decently well enough
Turbo you aint long game you
But i think youve been a bit wolfy early game with how youve approached ppl n havent reevaluated properly since
Also fwiw ive got a new policy with super solvers akin to alison
hm our townreads look similar at least
who's wizz? visor?
Wisdom
fmpov if people do actually care enough about their townreads they will defend them on their own especially when prompted
I think that works if theyre in thread at same time but doesn't always happen
got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either
my biggest problem is his wisdom read:
this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:
feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah
i have caught wolves before with this tell
and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq
(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)
yeah i can see the first two quotes, do you have any spicy takes u feel like sharing even if ur not confident on them?
Turbo you aint long game you
But i think youve been a bit wolfy early game with how youve approached ppl n havent reevaluated properly since
Also fwiw ive got a new policy with super solvers akin to alison
ahh fair. i hope the policy isnt to policy lol
in what ways do u think i was wolfy? why do you feel like i havent reevaluated properly?
v
ladd
cape
vulgard
nutella
syn
visor
rask
wisdom
illario
skipped their posts
robyn
achro
lapras
not v
ender
dya
boq
here is v lazily where i am at
bbl
I think that works if theyre in thread at same time but doesn't always happen
fair enough i suppose
i need to think
got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either
my biggest problem is his wisdom read:
this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:
feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah
i have caught wolves before with this tell
and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq
(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)
not sure whats considered spicy tbh
i just posted a turbo style reads list tho
ahh fair. i hope the policy isnt to policy lol
in what ways do u think i was wolfy? why do you feel like i havent reevaluated properly?
Sorry- I havent reevaluated since. It was just a feeling i had where it reminded me of when you/me wolfed + the other game you wolfed vs me recently which i forget. I didnt focus on it or anything cuz i think ive gut read you wolf WAY too many times and been wrong
So im gunna wait till you start dropping solves and base it on that
Fwiw the policy with you, ladd, benn, jc, alexa et al is to start by just town reading them as opposed to neutral reading them because its a sin if any of you die and are town d1 at least
v
ladd
cape
vulgard
nutella
syn
visor
rask
wisdom
illario
skipped their posts
robyn
achro
lapras
not v
ender
dya
boq
here is v lazily where i am at
bbl
It's my first game here won't someone read my posts God damn.
was meant to answer illario post obv
game feels like medium difficulty. if you want a "spicy" take is ender/boq w/W and nutella/wisdom/syn v/v/v
dunno if those are even considered spicy but i saw the second trio get pushed a bunch
It's my first game here won't someone read my posts God damn.
i dont have much time and they are long
i'll read them later (or d2)
i dont have much time and they are long
i'll read them later (or d2)
You probably haven't noticed but you are like the 6th person mentioning this so I am a little fed up lmao. You're good.
ladd what's holding u back from fully tr'ing rask
ladd what's holding u back from fully tr'ing rask
at some point felt like they were trying to imitate their last villa game here a couple of months ago but without the same GUSTO
but in the end i think they are villagery enuf
at some point felt like they were trying to imitate their last villa game here a couple of months ago but without the same GUSTO
but in the end i think they are villagery enuf
This is the first post i tr ladd for
talk to me about dya and ender
wisdom can you xpain why you wolfread visor initially?
dont think you ever explained
also why did you give up on thinking visor was a wolf cause everyone villaread him? seems weird given last game
talk to me about dya and ender
dont really have much to say about either
neither striked me as villagery so they ended up there. i assume dya will make themselves obvious 1 way or the other eventually
was meant to answer illario post obv
game feels like medium difficulty. if you want a "spicy" take is ender/boq w/W and nutella/wisdom/syn v/v/v
dunno if those are even considered spicy but i saw the second trio get pushed a bunch
i like the latter take honestly
though i'm not 100% on wisdom at the moment
with wisdom there's typically a moment when they post something and i call it based because it clicks and then i unconditionally defend wisdom for the rest of the game and they flip town
or they're mafia and it doesn't happen lol
dont really have much to say about either
neither striked me as villagery so they ended up there. i assume dya will make themselves obvious 1 way or the other eventually
thoughts on achro/vulgard/wisdom?
thoughts on achro/vulgard/wisdom?
Visor the man has like 10 posts did you not read all of them?
thoughts on achro/vulgard/wisdom?
part of why i have wisdom high is cause idt they are w/w with boq and boq read there feels either tmi or right
some of wisdom posts were weird but i also ended up thinking they are more likely v than not independently. the boq stuff just makes me feel better about it
the stuff about you does feel more villagery than not overall and their posting feels careless in a way i associate with their villa game
genuinely havent read achro posts at all
vulgard is the most consistently player who appears to be geuninley solving without agenda. ngl i kidna just wrote them off as v at some point and stopped paying too much attention to their posting. feel p good about them being v
ladd might have me pocketed lol, which is probs towny since i dont think he would care enough to do that as a wolf when im pretty slankly/useless atm. also hes probs not even aware of the pocket to begin with
ladd might have me topped lol, which is probs towny since i dont think he would care enough to do that as a wolf when im pretty slankly/useless atm. also hes probs not even aware of the top to begin with
this reminds me, i need a new word for pocket
edited above message, wonder if it works
ladd might have me pocketed lol, which is probs towny since i dont think he would care enough to do that as a wolf when im pretty slankly/useless atm. also hes probs not even aware of the pocket to begin with
you are right i have no clue what you are talking about lol
but i'll pocket you any day :curtain:
vote: Wisdom
I can totally see Boq too rn
ladd did a good job of summing up rask in that post. also saw this earlier which i thought was a bit of a pingy sequence in worlds where wisdom is town and boq isnt. like i sorta expect if he genuinely thinks he can see a boq world as wolf then that should put some pause in his wisdom read but yeah tldr: the sequence of voting wisdom but then saying u can see a world where the person most likely not to be a wolf with wisdom without then going to re-evaluate the wisdom read feels kinda iffy.
but yeah still not enough to undo my earlier townread on rask. so i suppose ive had a very similar dilemma with rask in my head where i think his posting and tone has been towny but there still been moments of iffyness and ladd having a similar process there was enough to pocket me ig.
oh yeah and he also put into words my thoughts on the wisdom/boq dynamic so that + the rask stuff was enough for me to like ladd
For as question-y as illario has been, I feel like they have been oddly dis-concerned about my vote on them. It was somewhat addressed but they haven't been super defensive about it.
Sigh
Wisdom voted Visor "unironically" then unvoted later on with their meta reason provided. Given the fact that Wisdom described Visor's play as deflated, I would assume it would just be so easy for mafia Wisdom to try pushing that angle onto Visor if Wisdom is mafia right? Instead Wisdom pretty much immediately gave up on it after, I am assuming, reading more stuff, which is reflected in Wisdom's logs.
Raskolnikov I feel like I addressed the main concern here about my read on that one Wisdom instance here before you pinged me
However, I'm more used to being town read by wolves than wolf read by wolves (or at least those wolves who has wolf read me lately has been kinda outting about it). That's what made me read Cape wrong last time, but I think he's just town now. Boq has made a similar town read on me as town before but I feel that he's being a bit... empty right now.
Meanwhile Syn's and Rask's wolf read on me seems to mostly be for shiz and giggles (We're out of game friends fyi).
Welcome to Wisdom reads people based on how they read them.
I do tend to make similar reads when it comes to treatment of my slot. I do have some concerns in this department when it comes to you (and Boq's treatment of that).
1. For how you criticize boq for feeling empty, I can't help but have the same feeling about your townread on me. "Cape townread me as wolf when he wolfed, but I think he's town this time" is rather shallow. What's different? What makes me towny this game?
2. I had problems with boq's treatment of you that I would like to address by me quoting... a ladd post
my biggest problem is his wisdom read:
That is the first post I side-eye in this game
but knowing how Wis usually posts as town and how they can get scum read by phrasings like that, I am leaning to town read that
this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:
it is wednesday my dudes and i bring you news from the front
wisdom is a wolf
Nah
feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah
i have caught wolves before with this tell
and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq
(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)
(also gonna put 148 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD/page5?p=2053843405#post2053843405) and 246 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD/page9?p=2053843506#post2053843506) for context :curtain:).
The problem I have with it is that I KNOW Boquise has a good amount of experience with Wisdom so putting out the initial reaction to the Wisdom post in the first place does strike me as odd. Like it is a read that I feel he should be confident on as he has expressed, but it really doesn't come off that way when Boq made his initial read.
A v/v game they had, (Gravity Falls), they were suspecting each other fairly early on though and Boq did cite that they usually end up incorrectly scumreading Wisdom and Wisdom was scumreading Boq that game when they were both town so idk. They eventually found each other I believe. But that's a lil meta side tangent.
cape u even said u misread me as town a lot, why do you think id be concerned about your vote on me? im used to it lol
ladd did a good job of summing up rask in that post. also saw this earlier which i thought was a bit of a pingy sequence in worlds where wisdom is town and boq isnt. like i sorta expect if he genuinely thinks he can see a boq world as wolf then that should put some pause in his wisdom read but yeah tldr: the sequence of voting wisdom but then saying u can see a world where the person most likely not to be a wolf with wisdom without then going to re-evaluate the wisdom read feels kinda iffy.
but yeah still not enough to undo my earlier townread on rask. so i suppose ive had a very similar dilemma with rask in my head where i think his posting and tone has been towny but there still been moments of iffyness and ladd having a similar process there was enough to pocket me ig.
fwiw i dont think rask is the type to care much about association so that particular sequence doesnt really concern me tbh
wisdom/cape probs the closest to solving the game atm if theyre villas so id kinda leave both be probs
why is Wisdom in this grouping? You could point to someone like Achro or Vulgard or Rask but why them?
why is Wisdom in this grouping? You could point to someone like Achro or Vulgard or Rask but why them?
because i think shes more correct than them. rask thinks me and vulgard are w/w. achro thinks vulgard is w (i dont remember any of his other pushes). and vulgard thinks im w.
fwiw i dont think rask is the type to care much about association so that particular sequence doesnt really concern me tbh
cool so hes just town then and im worrying for nothing
hmm dont really have specifics lol. i just like where theyre heading and i think theyre more correct than any other solves ive seen so far
the same person who just earlier only had 1 light wolfread on a 5 poster? (me)
So does this make me the closest now?
:curtain:
illario and cape are v hmmmm
I found wizzs town n entry kinda wolfy but ive nlt verified it was a gut tone thing.
who?
ladd = towny
was meant to answer illario post obv
game feels like medium difficulty. if you want a "spicy" take is ender/boq w/W and nutella/wisdom/syn v/v/v
dunno if those are even considered spicy but i saw the second trio get pushed a bunch
how was syn pushed a bunch?
ladd = towny
how was syn pushed a bunch?
syn was pushing the other 2 but i was too lazy to put into words the dynamic so just said pushed
Ah I was going go ask if he is the type of wolf to fake not knowing who I was. Earlier we had a conversation where he thought I was someone named Tim and I thought this likely made rask uninformed.
Boquise hi. Earlier you said I processed vul fast and I quoted you with a question mark. This was meant to signify I didn't know what you were talking about. While I have you here, earlier you townread cape for digesting my posts but upon reading your iso you have not given a single thought about me in either direction. Am I that uninteresting? What do you think of the game state so far? Are we likely to catch a wolf today?
Also unless people chime in specifically saying rask would think to act uninformed about my identity I think your vote is misplaced.
It was a snide remark. I stated that because to me, you said you would keep voting Vulgard and believe in the process but then you quickly changed vote, which was funny to me
I think Cape actually sponging off of your wall is rand>town because his post was based on what you said and built on it, which I dont think a wolf would really care to do. Cape was basically being independently solvy in his response to your post.
I dont have any read of you at the moment since I know you are wall-y as both alignments. I am waiting to see how your pushes go. I dunno if we will catch a wolf today - I am currently poking around and I will have an easier time when I've had a few flips.
My Rask vote has nothing to do with you. Why did you assume that?
However, I'm more used to being town read by wolves than wolf read by wolves (or at least those wolves who has wolf read me lately has been kinda outting about it). That's what made me read Cape wrong last time, but I think he's just town now. Boq has made a similar town read on me as town before but I feel that he's being a bit... empty right now.
Meanwhile Syn's and Rask's wolf read on me seems to mostly be for shiz and giggles (We're out of game friends fyi).
Welcome to Wisdom reads people based on how they read them.
Explain empty
well, it's time to do the Cabbage Man dance since now is the time I think illario is town this game. I like their ladd interactions.
Lemme just work things out in my head.
-Dya townreading me is a bit odd for them, just a bit atypical. But they have been dealing with stuff so.
-Lapras honestly just sounds like town to me. Getting those vibes recently.
-Boq certainly has some awkwardly worded posts, which I have found from his town game meta dive so eh? One read I found particularly awkward was that "nutella having an organic thought process" post. (455 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843717&viewfull=1#post2053843717)). As Boq said himself, a lil cheeky and cute. 418 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843680&viewfull=1#post2053843680) is ??? shade (used mayyybe loosely) on nutella but it's weird as it pertains to him being pushed which makes me wonder in the case that the post is serious enough that there is an underlying of suspecting nutella?? There is definitely Boq this game being self-righteous and vibey which counts for something probably.
-Robyn is someone who I feel inclined to vote if it wasn't for me vibing with their reads and me also thinking they would just be good to keep around for... reasons.
-Most of EnderWiggin's content is low impact for me just reading it slowly and digesting it so I think I likey that vote and am confused why nobody else thinks this way this game specifically.
Vote: EnderWiggin
wait robyn will take my wording of reasons the wrong way
let's just say I think you will have good reads if you are town in a later game scenario and not push villagers like you did on the syndicate
got pinged by his first post..cause like this doesnt feel like a real reason to villa read someone (w/w got em eheh) but it doesnt read like a joke either
my biggest problem is his wisdom read:
this read is fine and all but it doesnt feel like it should give you the confidence to say stuff like that:
feels like WOLFY levels of confidence for what the read is based on. if i am a villager, i'd ask why etc.. not just stonewall it with a nah
i have caught wolves before with this tell
and in general posts seems like they lack a bit of snap judgement that i feel is standard for villa boq
(disclaimer: i am not a particuarly good boq reader)
I like to snap town read people for minimal reasons to see what happens, hence the Ender read. If people make a thing about the read, opposing it, it tends to be scum who dislikes it that I am apparently clearing other town for flimsy reasons, and they use that to shade me
You are criticising me for lacking snap judgements, but simultaneously having problems with me having a snap judgement on both Ender and Wisdom.
Bet im right though
Think wiz might be wolfing though
To phrase this another way, "I don't see what I am doing is wolfy. How is it any different than my wolf read?" That feels like a really unintuitive thought to have from a town perspective. Think Boq could have some equity as a partner in Lapras worlds though since Lapras' bringing them up here feels especially random to me given they are one of the few people who Lapras hasn't given any reads on and then suddenly a Boq mention.
You walked away with a townread on Boq right?
I was gonna bring up a point that Syn has also been saying things with a good amount of confidence and sent that to ladd when I was talking about the Boq thing
You walked away with a townread on Boq right?
on lapras right?
It was a snide remark. I stated that because to me, you said you would keep voting Vulgard and believe in the process but then you quickly changed vote, which was funny to me
I think Cape actually sponging off of your wall is rand>town because his post was based on what you said and built on it, which I dont think a wolf would really care to do. Cape was basically being independently solvy in his response to your post.
I dont have any read of you at the moment since I know you are wall-y as both alignments. I am waiting to see how your pushes go. I dunno if we will catch a wolf today - I am currently poking around and I will have an easier time when I've had a few flips.
My Rask vote has nothing to do with you. Why did you assume that?
I didn't say it had anything to do with me, I just was letting you know my opinion about it.
What scum games of mine have you seen to get your opinion a out my scum game?
Cape does give off pretty fuzzy vibes so far so I can't fault you there.
As for the snide remark, fair enough.
Cape90 the last time I played with ender over on the syndicate he was pretty chill day one and it drove me nuts so I helped get him lynched. He flipped town and sparing the other wagon actually ended up really screwing town. I would need to know why low impact ender in a chill game is specifically problematic because I have heard this song before. I am trying not to repeat mistakes this year lol
For as question-y as illario has been, I feel like they have been oddly dis-concerned about my vote on them. It was somewhat addressed but they haven't been super defensive about it.
Raskolnikov I feel like I addressed the main concern here about my read on that one Wisdom instance here before you pinged me
I do tend to make similar reads when it comes to treatment of my slot. I do have some concerns in this department when it comes to you (and Boq's treatment of that).
1. For how you criticize boq for feeling empty, I can't help but have the same feeling about your townread on me. "Cape townread me as wolf when he wolfed, but I think he's town this time" is rather shallow. What's different? What makes me towny this game?
2. I had problems with boq's treatment of you that I would like to address by me quoting... a ladd post
(also gonna put 148 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD/page5?p=2053843405#post2053843405) and 246 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD/page9?p=2053843506#post2053843506) for context :curtain:).
The problem I have with it is that I KNOW Boquise has a good amount of experience with Wisdom so putting out the initial reaction to the Wisdom post in the first place does strike me as odd. Like it is a read that I feel he should be confident on as he has expressed, but it really doesn't come off that way when Boq made his initial read.
A v/v game they had, (Gravity Falls), they were suspecting each other fairly early on though and Boq did cite that they usually end up incorrectly scumreading Wisdom and Wisdom was scumreading Boq that game when they were both town so idk. They eventually found each other I believe. But that's a lil meta side tangent.
i like to believe that i learn from my mistakes and stuff - i have had a far quicker time town reading Wisdom now than I had during Gravity Falls. I have also sometimes incorrectly town read scum!Wisdom and perhaps only have a 50% rate to walk it back and correctly scum read them. So we will see
on lapras right?
On boq not really.
On lapras yes based off of their reads+ how they described their suspicion of vul. It feels like a townie who is pushing back against what they think is a bad push with a push of their own that feels biased in the right way. Like an actual omgus versus -'heh heh heh I will plan this omgus as a scum'
I like to snap town read people for minimal reasons to see what happens, hence the Ender read. If people make a thing about the read, opposing it, it tends to be scum who dislikes it that I am apparently clearing other town for flimsy reasons, and they use that to shade me
You are criticising me for lacking snap judgements, but simultaneously having problems with me having a snap judgement on both Ender and Wisdom.
is you ender read real?
well, it's time to do the Cabbage Man dance since now is the time I think illario is town this game. I like their ladd interactions.
Lemme just work things out in my head.
-Dya townreading me is a bit odd for them, just a bit atypical. But they have been dealing with stuff so.
-Lapras honestly just sounds like town to me. Getting those vibes recently.
-Boq certainly has some awkwardly worded posts, which I have found from his town game meta dive so eh? One read I found particularly awkward was that "nutella having an organic thought process" post. (455 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843717&viewfull=1#post2053843717)). As Boq said himself, a lil cheeky and cute. 418 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843680&viewfull=1#post2053843680) is ??? shade (used mayyybe loosely) on nutella but it's weird as it pertains to him being pushed which makes me wonder in the case that the post is serious enough that there is an underlying of suspecting nutella?? There is definitely Boq this game being self-righteous and vibey which counts for something probably.
-Robyn is someone who I feel inclined to vote if it wasn't for me vibing with their reads and me also thinking they would just be good to keep around for... reasons.
-Most of EnderWiggin's content is low impact for me just reading it slowly and digesting it so I think I likey that vote and am confused why nobody else thinks this way this game specifically.
Vote: EnderWiggin
I dont get what you mean with "cheeky and cute" because thats for a separate post? Post 455 is my favourite post because I had fun writing it tbh. I don't really see how it is awkward. Define awkward.
418 is very serious and I dont understand how it is weird. Nutella seemed cranky that I towned up, which felt like she being a wolf and realising that she can't death tunnel me. She then town read me, which felt like she tried a different approach like pocketing me since I am an easy pocket.
Ha im goated gargle my balls
i laughed at this
i am probably weirdly ok with lapras? even tho i dont understand a good 27% of their posts
is you ender read real?
If 0% is null on the scale, and negative numbers are wolf reads, and regular numbers are town reads, it is a 5% town lean. I think players being relatable is a good place to start. But it is more important to see how my flimsy reads affect the thread. If Ender is town, people who are trying to talk down the read will have their wolf stocks skyrocketing.
I didn't say it had anything to do with me, I just was letting you know my opinion about it.
What scum games of mine have you seen to get your opinion a out my scum game?
Cape does give off pretty fuzzy vibes so far so I can't fault you there.
As for the snide remark, fair enough.
Cape90 the last time I played with ender over on the syndicate he was pretty chill day one and it drove me nuts so I helped get him lynched. He flipped town and sparing the other wagon actually ended up really screwing town. I would need to know why low impact ender in a chill game is specifically problematic because I have heard this song before. I am trying not to repeat mistakes this year lol
Why are you not interested in the reason behind my vote then?
Idr, you feel like a wall-y person regarless, and iirc you have said so in past games too. Is being wall-y nai for you iyo?
I was gonna bring up a point that Syn has also been saying things with a good amount of confidence and sent that to ladd when I was talking about the Boq thing
it is only wolfy when i do it
Being low-impact in a chill game isn't problematic I'm just more interested in seeing what ender does going forward after my accusation. There really isn't much to talk about and I know EnderWiggin can be very good with their tone when they play as mafia. I sort of liked the timing of when they called illario town and Vulgard wolf.
Ender is certainly open this game I will also give him that. Not careful feeling with their thoughts with the exception of their said Wisdom wolf read. A little all over the place.
In terms of my vote on them, I am mostly pushing them because I don't really know where else to push and I feel like it's a good bang for my buck type of thing. My whole thing is you should be on a vote if there is no majority. I feel like with all of the attributes that Ender has presented this game, he should be an easy read but he's not for me right now and that's my issue.
the same person who just earlier only had 1 light wolfread on a 5 poster? (me)
A light wolfread on a potential hit is better than a confident wolfread on a definite miss. Also I believe I was vibing with ur towncore list
it is only wolfy when i do it
will keep in mind
So does this make me the closest now?
:curtain:
:curtain:
Why are you not interested in the reason behind my vote then?
Idr, you feel like a wall-y person regarless, and iirc you have said so in past games too. Is being wall-y nai for you iyo?
Because I really like my angle there on v rask and I was more interested in protecting a town read than being curious about your vote on that tr specifically. But now that you mention it, why the vote?
I am pretty wall-y when I sit down at my computer as either alignment yeah. It sounds in character for me to mention that at some point, I asked because sometimes people overthink questions as scum and give forced answers. That one felt pretty natural though.
well, it's time to do the Cabbage Man dance since now is the time I think illario is town this game. I like their ladd interactions.
Lemme just work things out in my head.
-Dya townreading me is a bit odd for them, just a bit atypical. But they have been dealing with stuff so.
-Lapras honestly just sounds like town to me. Getting those vibes recently.
-Boq certainly has some awkwardly worded posts, which I have found from his town game meta dive so eh? One read I found particularly awkward was that "nutella having an organic thought process" post. (455 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843717&viewfull=1#post2053843717)). As Boq said himself, a lil cheeky and cute. 418 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843680&viewfull=1#post2053843680) is ??? shade (used mayyybe loosely) on nutella but it's weird as it pertains to him being pushed which makes me wonder in the case that the post is serious enough that there is an underlying of suspecting nutella?? There is definitely Boq this game being self-righteous and vibey which counts for something probably.
-Robyn is someone who I feel inclined to vote if it wasn't for me vibing with their reads and me also thinking they would just be good to keep around for... reasons.
-Most of EnderWiggin's content is low impact for me just reading it slowly and digesting it so I think I likey that vote and am confused why nobody else thinks this way this game specifically.
Vote: EnderWiggin
i will re read ender and boq bc i figure that harder stances on these two players will be illuminating
Being low-impact in a chill game isn't problematic I'm just more interested in seeing what ender does going forward after my accusation. There really isn't much to talk about and I know EnderWiggin can be very good with their tone when they play as mafia. I sort of liked the timing of when they called illario town and Vulgard wolf.
Ender is certainly open this game I will also give him that. Not careful feeling with their thoughts with the exception of their said Wisdom wolf read. A little all over the place.
In terms of my vote on them, I am mostly pushing them because I don't really know where else to push and I feel like it's a good bang for my buck type of thing. My whole thing is you should be on a vote if there is no majority. I feel like with all of the attributes that Ender has presented this game, he should be an easy read but he's not for me right now and that's my issue.
Well that is a beautiful answer. I'm over here collecting town reads because I have a habit of becoming decidingly unchill when I want to go in on someone. I am learning to temper myself. Be as calm as the lake's surface or somesuch.
Taking bets on team ender/illario/? For most painful for achro's ability to push successfully without rocking back and forth.
I dont get what you mean with "cheeky and cute" because thats for a separate post? Post 455 is my favourite post because I had fun writing it tbh. I don't really see how it is awkward. Define awkward.
418 is very serious and I dont understand how it is weird. Nutella seemed cranky that I towned up, which felt like she being a wolf and realising that she can't death tunnel me. She then town read me, which felt like she tried a different approach like pocketing me since I am an easy pocket.
I was just jotting down things about how I felt about you, not sure why I sandwiched my thought about you being "cheeky and cute" between those other points. That was just referring to your posts in general. I will blame me doing that on it being 3am for me.
Honestly going back to around the point of 418/455, I don't really like nutella's posts around that area.
Between 418/455 there was
you voting nutella then these series of posts.
nah it's fine
i personally have a hard time narrating all those steps that happen in my brain when i make a read so maybe i am just stressed out by your ability to do so
but i was about to unvote you this is so unfair
vote: achro
back to my vanity wagon since no one else is wolfy lol
ok im lock towning boq forever gg haha
you started vibing very towny and stuff
then you jump straight into 455
Nutella saying that she can't really narrate her thought process
Matches with her explaining her "locking in boq as town forever gg" post with just "you were town vibing and stuff" matches
This is what the pros call organic play, and it is all on display for us all to have a say and comment on during this first day but I also feel like Nut did a mayday and pivoted away from fearsome intimidating awesome payday Boquise with his meta death ray
tbh
which says that nutella is playing organically (i took this as a turn around on nutella)
but then you go on to say that nutella did this as a mayday because they were intimidated by pushing you, which still kinda looks like a wolfread?
IDK I thought the 2 contradicted each other before im typing all this out
But in a way it does feel like 455 is a contradicting message?
Well that is a beautiful answer. I'm over here collecting town reads because I have a habit of becoming decidingly unchill when I want to go in on someone. I am learning to temper myself. Be as calm as the lake's surface or somesuch.
Taking bets on team ender/illario/? For most painful for achro's ability to push successfully without rocking back and forth.
in this scenario I am probably taking a wild card for me like nutella/vulgard/wisdom because I have to be wrong on someone.
But straightforwardly someone in dyachei/robyn/boq.
I know, I am a real narrow downer
i think nutella is fine
Vote: robyn
Visor is probably town just because he has given no effort to give a single fuck about me. Feels like he played around me more when he was scum.
i think nutella is fine
Vote: robyn
What do you think about rask/syn?
Visor is probably town just because he has given no effort to give a single fuck about me. Feels like he played around me more when he was scum.
i have simply been too busy lol
i have simply been too busy lol
Too late you're town.
Also I am manually remembering I have seen you as town over on syndicate. Weirdest n1 kill ever tbh
What do you think about rask/syn?
rask is fine enough for d1 from what i saw (though ive got my eye on him from a few posts)
syn seems fine (more engaged than the last game i think though - which could be fun if hes a wolf)
Too late you're town.
Also I am manually remembering I have seen you as town over on syndicate. Weirdest n1 kill ever tbh
yeah i nearly mentioned this to you earlier but figured it didnt matter
think i was just shot to not rock the boat or something idk
yeah i nearly mentioned this to you earlier but figured it didnt matter
think i was just shot to not rock the boat or something idk
At least you were avenged day 2. We won't talk about the rest of the game lol
i think my vote is still on rask from rvs, i should probably change it to something more useful
i will endeavour to look over this game on the weekend but right now im in a brain fog
wheres your head at achro
ive never seen ladd meet so little resistance in a game lol, idk what that means but it might mean something
okay now i have an independent townread on cape as well, those last few posts were quite good
ive never seen ladd meet so little resistance in a game lol, idk what that means but it might mean something
i think the more i post the more people are paranoid of me
so the solution is just to do nothing. wish i figured it out 4 years ago tho
how do i iso
click on "replies" on the thread. its like the syndicate
I put my cigarette out beneath my boot and try to take in what it is I see before me. There are some random mutterings, a large Lapras saying its own name, and already a man slapping the back of another and declaring them trustworthy. One even remarks they sure are glad they are not a wolf in Sheep's clothing. Funny enough I think I believe it.
Achro why did u believe dya over there?
Anyway I have errands to run soon and it isn't out of the possibility that when I am done I just crash so here's a list of people I don't have a good reason to not vote today.
Boq
dyachei
EnderWiggin
illario
ladd
Syn
Wisdom
My lack of a strong feeling of a scum read makes me think I might have a blindspot in my reasoning on one of illario/ender since I am purposefully trying to be distant on those slots to see what develops. But at the same time this could apply to dya as well who is just unable to be here atm. If there is any scum in that group then it only requires a couple of people to be a timely playing well.
I feel like everyone not named I have a good reason to think they are town. Most likely misclears are nutella (relies a bit much on me reading into how they would treat me), robyn (is a bit off from how I imagine they would treat me, or rask (if they are a good power wolf then that uninformed stance would probably be in their wheel house)
I usually miss one smh
Achro why did u believe dya over there?
I tend to think wolves get in their own head about posting stuff like that early and delete it rather than posting it. Enough for an early town lean anyway.
id have prob believed dya opening as well if they didnt make the exact same opening last game over here (as a villager)
it got them (rightfully) villa read them in that game so i think its pretty ez for dya to decide to re do it as a wolf
click on "replies" on the thread. its like the syndicate
i dont see it lol, i do however see an option to report you :whip:
id have prob believed dya opening as well if they didnt make the exact same opening last game over here (as a villager)
it got them (rightfully) villa read them in that game so i think its pretty ez for dya to decide to re do it as a wolf
Well yes, that does negate any sort of reliability it has lol.
i dont see it lol, i do however see an option to report you :whip:
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achro/boq/dya/illario/ladd/lapras/visor/wisdom
achro - liked a few small things but always found reasons not to like them all that much, frankly i think i WANT him to be town more than he's been actually towny, i think his treatment of my slot is probably the towniest thing that he's done because he appears inquisitive there whereas my experience with wolves reading me is that they are more opportunistic
boq - frankly his posting just doesn't really register in my brain and it's completely my fault, i can't say i've found him super towny, wouldn't mind him getting day 1ed, one thing i noticed is that he seems less self-assured about his slot than usual (i'm accustomed to him being snarky when suspected and i don't think i've seen that this game) which i think is wolfy for him but i haven't given his posts due diligence yet so i'll likely do that soon
dya - can barely play today and has explained why, realistically this is null and i don't want to go here d1
illario - i think he's very subdued, frankly i'm still waiting for him to get into the game, if i were to make a judgment call on his alignment right now i would say he's a wolf playing for thread positioning with cards close to his chest but i'm nowhere near confident enough on that call to push him rn, he had that ender/achro thought process earlier which looked like agenda to me when i saw it but i decided to give him time and he didn't evolve the thought which i'm not sure what it means but i might as well mention it right now as i don't think he'll be progressing with these thoughts any time soon anyway, tldr i'm actually leaning wolf but not confident enough to push it through rn
ladd - similar case but he had a couple of posts that looked solid enough, the wolfread on boq in particular is different from how he treated and pushed his wolfread on ender when he was a wolf in the last game i played here; i don't sense agenda in this boq read, while the ender read in the previous game i played with ladd was an agenda-based read; he's just approaching it differently and i lean him town for it
lapras - i still don't think he's been towny and i feel like he's lost this game (which is the most charitable way i can put it), i find his wolfreads suspect because the wisdom take seems undercooked and the wolfread on me is just omgus, our townreads were similar at least but the places in which we had the same townreads were not exactly difficult conclusions to reach fmpov so it could be a wolf bending to the threadstate in that way, i feel like i'm somewhat likely to be confbiasing here so i'm trying to stay open to other options but i don't think his responses to me have been great either, i should probably stop talking about this slot here
visor - he said he's barely had time to play the game and i believe him, similar case to dya, he does have a bit more content but i don't think he's particularly readable off that content
wisdom - the fact i don't have a townread there yet is maybe alarming but we've barely posted around the same time as one another, instinctively i don't really want to kill them and i feel like they might be town but i don't have an actual reason to believe this
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summary:
adding ladd to my townreads
don't want to execute dya or visor today
also don't want to execute wisdom but i don't have a reason for it so if others feel confident it's a hit i'm willing to go along with it
kinda don't want to go achro but it's for biased reasons so same deal here
boq/illario/lapras are my preference, but i'm hesitant on illario, i have to properly read boq, and i think i might be confbiased on lapras, so i can't say i feel great about any of these three reads rn lmao
i'd like to discuss these slots with others honestly
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sorry if that was hard to read but i find myself having an easier time expressing my mafia-related thoughts when i do it like this
big tl;dr: i'd like to discuss boq illario lapras achro wisdom
if my townreads don't have a misclear (which they might but i'm hoping they don't) and if dya/visor are both villagers (which is unclear rn but i'm basically giving them a pass for today) this grouping contains all the wolves
it's... probably not that simple but yeah
actually i think lapras is the most important to discuss because if i really am tunneled there i need to get out of it now
vulgard did u forget about me
Vulgard tbf one thing you might be seeing is I am purposefully not fulfilling a role you usually see me in as 'town leader.' I think back to conversations I have had with jjj about being the player town needs game to game rather than the same player every time. I think what I actually do best is find town heartbeats where many cannot, so I am focused on that.
vulgard did u forget about me
no i just think you're town rn and i've been focusing on slots other than you
are you asking for attention?
Vulgard tbf one thing you might be seeing is I am purposefully not fulfilling a role you usually see me in as 'town leader.' I think back to conversations I have had with jjj about being the player town needs game to game rather than the same player every time. I think what I actually do best is find town heartbeats where many cannot, so I am focused on that.
thats solid advice imo
Vulgard tbf one thing you might be seeing is I am purposefully not fulfilling a role you usually see me in as 'town leader.' I think back to conversations I have had with jjj about being the player town needs game to game rather than the same player every time. I think what I actually do best is find town heartbeats where many cannot, so I am focused on that.
i'm not actually sure if that's a factor in my read on you, but i did notice that you've been playing differently
i'm trying to adapt my reading of you to that fact
no i just think you're town rn and i've been focusing on slots other than you
are you asking for attention?
only if you mean sexually
only if you mean sexually
you're asking the wrong person
thats solid advice imo
Before all of the bad times, I non difference checked jack/nanook/someone else(I forget now) as soon as I came in for all being fooled by scum. And if I had just stuck to that maybe things go different.
Focused achro is strong achro.
i feel like if i hadn't played with illario several times i'd be pushing him hard rn
Before all of the bad times, I non difference checked jack/nanook/someone else(I forget now) as soon as I came in for all being fooled by scum. And if I had just stuck to that maybe things go different.
Focused achro is strong achro.
i believe you and dont disagree on the latter either
i feel like if i hadn't played with illario several times i'd be pushing him hard rn
LOL, i do tend to attract that with people who arent familiar with me
i feel like this games either gonna be fairly straight forward or pretty tough, hopefully it will be evident after d1
ladd why did u think it was medium difficulty?
illario feels off but i don’t think it’s ai
it’s also comparable to the feeling off feeling i felt in tacky matrix game
Ok well robyns likely town
Lapras why?
illario feels off but i don’t think it’s ai
it’s also comparable to the feeling off feeling i felt in tacky matrix game
who do you think are wolves atm?
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