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This is a fun casual mafia game
There is a post cap of 100 posts per day, lifted one hour before eod
Maj in effect from d2 on
Rules:
48/24 phases, at 7pm american eastern. :00 posts/votes are good, :01 posts/votes bad.
You may not talk after death.
Don't quote anything I say to you. Paraphrasing is fine.
No screenshots, etc.
You may NOT talk to players outside the thread unless otherwise specified in your role PM.
You will vote for players you want lynched during the day, using the format, Vote: Sunbae. Votes must be in bold to count. You do not need to unvote to vote someone else. I will count your last legal vote as your vote. You must use that specific vote format with the colon or the vote WILL NOT count. (this is so i can find the votes easier)
You can thank posts who cares, just don't angle it/be angleshooty about it.
Do not talk at night.
Votes that end in a tie will be decided by random lynch.
No lynch is allowed as is abstain.
Don't edit posts please.
If you miss a day phase I will message you and see whats up. If I don't hear from you by the start of the next day you will be subbed or modkilled (depending on game phase and whether I can find a sub).
Have fun. This is not an option . If you don't think you'll have fun with this game... don't join it.
Night orders are due 1 hour prior to start of day. (Please PM me night orders, though I will also accept discord.)
Setup and Roles:
Town:
- 1 Town Motion Detector. This power goes away when only one scum remains. (choose a target each night. you will be told if they performed an action or if an action was performed on them that night. You will get back either "Yes" or "No")
- 1 Town JOAT (1x Doctor, 1x Poison, 1x Roleblock)
- 10x Vanilla Town
Mafia:
- 1 Scum Firefighter (Each night you must target a player. Nothing happens to them, you just target them).
- 1 Scum 2x Power Killer (Each night you may select a player. If that player is a power role that player will die. If not, nothing happens)
- 1 Scum Universal Backup (The charges are shared between the Power Killer and the Backup. If Power Killer uses 1 then dies, backup can only use 1 more)
Note: The scum nightkill is assigned to a player and will trigger motion detection
Playerlist:
Achro
Boq
Cape90
dyachei
EnderWiggin
illario
ladd
lapras
nutella
raskolnikov
Robyn
Syn
Visor
Vulgard
Wisdom
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I will announce when the game has started, please do not post until then, thanks.
If the thread opens and you do not have a role pm, please DM me before posting
Don't discuss role pms in thread obv, they're all just you randed x congrats anyway.
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Current Game Status Will Be Updated Here After Day 1:
WOLVES WIN
Achro
Boquise
Vulgard
All role pms have been sent.
The vanilla town pm is:
You are vanilla town!
The game thread can be found here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053843245
You win when all threats to town are dead.
If you have any questions, let me and benneh know
Game starts tomorrow, 3/21, at 7pm eastern 23 hours and 30 minutes from this post)
nebjiamn
03-21-2023, 01:20
Casual reminder to everyone that this is a casual game. sunbae and I are very excited to host this hype player list for a fun game with a setup that we believe can be very fun, interesting, and provide a great baseline of mechanical play to cookie crumb a fairly balanced and well played game of werewolf.
I believe it goes without saying we don't need to address name-calling/insulting rhetoric. We are already aware that this playerlist is better than that.
You may be hyped to rand villager, or wolf, or PR, or just to play with a certain player, or most likely of all, to be playing in a game hosted by 2 washed-up never was's. This is great! We want to encourage that, but please keep in mind that others have signed up with the intention of enjoying a casual game and what that means for each person can vary.
This is not a crutch to say that you can't suspect people for low-posting or wolf people out of the game because they don't respond well to pressure. This is werewolf and we want everyone to play to their wincondition and that means exploring all (in-game) avenues. All we ask if that you be respectful of or at least try to be aware of eachother's boundaries in this regard.
Someone may not want to dedicate more than an hour per day to this game, or more than 25 posts, or much more than an ITYSL-themed GIF barrage related to the quality of one's posting (It's interesting, the posts...). Or it may manifest itself in some other way.
If you feel the game is becoming decidedly not-casual for you, please feel free to take a long break and return when playing the game feels like fun again. If you believe it is something that we can help address as mods, please DM sunbae or myself directly (here or via discord) and we will do our best to accommodate.
nebjiamn
03-21-2023, 16:25
Lapras will be replacing Ephemeral
No discussing subs etc.
nebjiamn
03-21-2023, 18:19
Lucy is remaining in the game but will now be playing as Robyn and using they/them pronouns
Day 1 has started.
There is no maj today.
EOD is in 48 hours: 7pm eastern on 3/23
You may post now
Achro
Boq
Cape90
dyachei
EnderWiggin
illario
ladd
lapras
nutella
raskolnikov
Robyn
Visor
Vulgard
Wisdom
there's at least 2 wolves in this list
thunderously calm greeting and effortlessly humorous entry post
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:04
Hi friendos
I take a puff of my cigarette as I look out over the room where fourteen faces stare back at me. Luminaries from all over the world have come here in order to gain infamy for their detective skills by bringing down a notorious international ring of criminals. Sitting in front of me were fourteen fellow detectives. At least, that was the idea. The note in my hand told another story entirely.
It was from the organizer of this event. Three bodies had been discovered only 24 hours ago in the harbor. The first murders in this city in over a decade. Now, of all times? Coincidences were never quite so ridiculous. The organizer agreed, which explained the contents of the note.
My esteemed Detective, I am afraid I am forced to conclude that this conference of detectives has been compromised. What was once a meeting of 15 minds I am afraid has likely become a deadly game of murder mystery. Three dead bodies would lead me to believe that three detectives have been replaced. I have made 14 identical notes and passed it along to everyone present at this meeting, as I have no way of knowing who has been replaced by a doppelganger. Our enemies are clever and have vast resources, even our attempts at hiding this meeting have ended in failure. If the person reading this is a detective, I beg of you, find the killers among you so that we may proceed with our plans unmolested.
Dire news indeed. Three in this room could not be trusted. Three in this room were not who they said they were. What these villains did not know - they could not possibly know - is that they had made a mistake. A severe error in judgment. They had crossed paths with the famed Great Detective Achro and his trust ace Pokemon, Snorlax, and they would be brought to justice if it was the last thing I did.
I had no sooner thought that before the lights went out. My breath caught in my throat as I expected my life to come to an end here and now. There was not a sound as the darkness and silence lingered for seconds that stretched out to what felt like days. Then, as suddenly as the lights had gone out, they came back on. My eyes darted all around the room to find everyone was in the exact same positions they had been in prior to the lights shutting off.
There was one thing new to the room, however.
In bright red paint, scrawled messily, on the wall was written ?12 Vs 3. Catch us if you can.?
An open act of defiance. Very well then, I know what this means. The game is afoot.
(I am playing WoW's new patch right now, my activity this evening will be spotty)
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:04
Syn hardclaiming wolf in his first post is something
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:05
Ephemeral you coward :bow:
Hm, I tried to post something but it didn't go through, strange.
(perhaps quick reply is the way to go, I am playing wow's new patch atm and my activity will be sporadic this evening)
I take a puff of my cigarette as I look out over the room where fourteen faces stare back at me. Luminaries from all over the world have come here in order to gain infamy for their detective skills by bringing down a notorious international ring of criminals. Sitting in front of me were fourteen fellow detectives. At least, that was the idea. The note in my hand told another story entirely.
It was from the organizer of this event. Three bodies had been discovered only 24 hours ago in the harbor. The first murders in this city in over a decade. Now, of all times? Coincidences were never quite so ridiculous. The organizer agreed, which explained the contents of the note.
My esteemed Detective, I am afraid I am forced to conclude that this conference of detectives has been compromised. What was once a meeting of 15 minds I am afraid has likely become a deadly game of murder mystery. Three dead bodies would lead me to believe that three detectives have been replaced. I have made 14 identical notes and passed it along to everyone present at this meeting, as I have no way of knowing who has been replaced by a doppelganger. Our enemies are clever and have vast resources, even our attempts at hiding this meeting have ended in failure. If the person reading this is a detective, I beg of you, find the killers among you so that we may proceed with our plans unmolested.
Dire news indeed. Three in this room could not be trusted. Three in this room were not who they said they were. What these villains did not know - they could not possibly know - is that they had made a mistake. A severe error in judgment. They had crossed paths with the famed Great Detective Achro and his trust ace Pokemon, Snorlax, and they would be brought to justice if it was the last thing I did.
I had no sooner thought that before the lights went out. My breath caught in my throat as I expected my life to come to an end here and now. There was not a sound as the darkness and silence lingered for seconds that stretched out to what felt like days. Then, as suddenly as the lights had gone out, they came back on. My eyes darted all around the room to find everyone was in the exact same positions they had been in prior to the lights shutting off.
There was one thing new to the room, however.
In bright red paint, scrawled messily, on the wall was written ‘12 Vs 3. Catch us if you can.”
An open act of defiance. Very well then, I know what this means. The game is afoot.
Hello im lapras
And i really mean it
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:18
Hey Lapras, will you carry me?
is 50ppp straight up not an option on this site lmao thats so scuffed
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:25
is 50ppp straight up not an option on this site lmao thats so scuffed
don't think so ~:mecry:
Have fun. This is not an option . If you don't think you'll have fun with this game... don't join it.
wtf i hate haaving fun
rask v
imma say it before it becomes cool
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:42
rask v
imma say it before it becomes cool
rask v
imma say it before it becomes cool
w/w
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 00:47
I am gonna have to bus my mate now for displaying an overwhelming amount of TMI
good thing rask didnt rand this game or i would have rolled wolf
hello, this’ll be a fun game
I put my cigarette out beneath my boot and try to take in what it is I see before me. There are some random mutterings, a large Lapras saying its own name, and already a man slapping the back of another and declaring them trustworthy. One even remarks they sure are glad they are not a wolf in Sheep's clothing. Funny enough I think I believe it.
okay well i missed some winking and nodding there or something
what did le petite twink do this time
One minute he was patting them on the back, the next this illario was throwing out accusations and calling for an execution in a calm voice. Hard to know if the man is trying to ease the tensions or if he is just shooting from the hip. I find it endearing in its own way.
I glance over and see an unassuming figure asking questions and getting no answers. They seem lonely. Perhaps too alone to be part of a multi-member murder squad sent to destroy the rest of us. Time will tell.
i want to be involved in a wagon for wolf-related reasons
vote: raskol
But yeah, you have my sincerest apologies as I was indeed party rocking. I don't expect forgiveness for this terrible act.
But yeah, you have my sincerest apologies as I was indeed party rocking. I don't expect forgiveness for this terrible act.
you're sexy and i know it
Vote: Lapras
Do I have to spell it out to you young man or young women or young one? It is Larpas not Lapras smh
you're sexy and i know it
thanks, I work out
Morning! Just wanted you to know that I exist. Will be back later!
Morning! Just wanted you to know that I exist. Will be back later!
source?
visor can be town too, i won't elaborate but i have an idea
cape
visor
townpile
nothing else ai
visor can be town too, i won't elaborate but i have an idea
cape
visor
townpile
nothing else ai
Stretch brah
Howd you get here
I think the rvs in general has been awka
visor can be town too, i won't elaborate but i have an idea
cape
visor
townpile
nothing else ai
can you explain both of these?
Stretch brah
Howd you get here
I think the rvs in general has been awka
why do you think it's specifically a stretch
visor can be town too, i won't elaborate but i have an idea
cape
visor
townpile
nothing else ai
i can see these
why do you think it's specifically a stretch
Visors entry is completely NAI + hes visor and robyn (congrats on your transition btw!!) loves meta n gamestate reads n this aimt right
Cape imo town tells a bunch when town. Better to wait on him solving to make a read. Also basically said nothing thst feels rvs towny
lapras do u have any other accounts i would be more familiar with the name of?
lapras do u have any other accounts i would be more familiar with the name of?
Yes but i wanna see how long it takes for ppl to work it out
Yes but i wanna see how long it takes for ppl to work it out
you've twinktold
and ty wrt the above
can you explain both of these?
i can explain neither of them
cape's just obv town to me off entry, it's what happens when you wolf against someone for two months and make an s tier mental model only for wolf you to get them to vote out townies
i have a theory about visor i am testing, can't really explain until later
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 09:11
what did le petite twink do this time
Nothing actually. Visor and Syn are just memeing.
BUt illario is a wolf :curtain:
I'll think about ur offer.
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 09:12
vote: illario
i can explain neither of them
cape's just obv town to me off entry, it's what happens when you wolf against someone for two months and make an s tier mental model only for wolf you to get them to vote out townies
i have a theory about visor i am testing, can't really explain until later
You not think capes got range?
You not think capes got range?
not enough to successfully trick me this game after being in his head for so long
Ok well robyns likely town
Visors entry is completely NAI + hes visor and robyn (congrats on your transition btw!!) loves meta n gamestate reads n this aimt right
Cape imo town tells a bunch when town. Better to wait on him solving to make a read. Also basically said nothing thst feels rvs towny
I'm realizing I asked my question poorly, but idk how to ask the question I was trying to ask WELL
maybe I'll just explain what I was trying to do
basically, the fact you called Robyn's townreads a stretch made me wonder if you were saying that because you thought Robyn was forcing reads in RVS as a wolf, or because you were trying to prevent early (good) reads from a villager taking hold
the way in which you called Robyn's reads a stretch made me suspicious because I thought it was tonally wolfy, but since my tonal reads are terrible, I didn't want to rely on that, so I asked a question about your comment
the problem is that I asked the question in such a way that your answer doesn't really help me determine what you were motivated by, lol. gut instinct on your initial post is still "wolf," your response could come from both alignments
Vote: Lapras I guess I'll place my vote here for now, but I don't actually feel super confident about it, and I'll likely change it
(I realize me outright saying that will make this vote have 0 pressure, but ideally, I'd like to be transparent here because this is not an obvious read and it took a lot of time to explain help)
Nothing actually. Visor and Syn are just memeing.
BUt illario is a wolf :curtain:
I'll think about ur offer.
how did you arrive at that conclusion?
I'm realizing I asked my question poorly, but idk how to ask the question I was trying to ask WELL
maybe I'll just explain what I was trying to do
basically, the fact you called Robyn's townreads a stretch made me wonder if you were saying that because you thought Robyn was forcing reads in RVS as a wolf, or because you were trying to prevent early (good) reads from a villager taking hold
the way in which you called Robyn's reads a stretch made me suspicious because I thought it was tonally wolfy, but since my tonal reads are terrible, I didn't want to rely on that, so I asked a question about your comment
the problem is that I asked the question in such a way that your answer doesn't really help me determine what you were motivated by, lol. gut instinct on your initial post is still "wolf," your response could come from both alignments
Vote: Lapras I guess I'll place my vote here for now, but I don't actually feel super confident about it, and I'll likely change it
(I realize me outright saying that will make this vote have 0 pressure, but ideally, I'd like to be transparent here because this is not an obvious read and it took a lot of time to explain help)
Nah i dont want bad or hurried reads in thread didnt then have an opinion on lucy
You couldda just said "shade" btw cuz thats kinda what your accusing me of AND is what i did
Nah i dont want bad or hurried reads in thread didnt then have an opinion on lucy
You couldda just said "shade" btw cuz thats kinda what your accusing me of AND is what i did
nah because i didn't think you were shading, i just thought you might've had tmi on robyn being town and on the accuracy of robyn's reads perchance
like i said i'm not super confident in this but it's there
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
push elsewhere
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
nah because i didn't think you were shading, i just thought you might've had tmi on robyn being town and on the accuracy of robyn's reads perchance
like i said i'm not super confident in this but it's there
Oo fair. Think your towny as your thought seems like multi tiered but obvs you are good wolf etcetc
lmao i love the thank feature
source?
Just kidding I lied I never existed, byeeee
I'm realizing I asked my question poorly, but idk how to ask the question I was trying to ask WELL
maybe I'll just explain what I was trying to do
basically, the fact you called Robyn's townreads a stretch made me wonder if you were saying that because you thought Robyn was forcing reads in RVS as a wolf, or because you were trying to prevent early (good) reads from a villager taking hold
the way in which you called Robyn's reads a stretch made me suspicious because I thought it was tonally wolfy, but since my tonal reads are terrible, I didn't want to rely on that, so I asked a question about your comment
the problem is that I asked the question in such a way that your answer doesn't really help me determine what you were motivated by, lol. gut instinct on your initial post is still "wolf," your response could come from both alignments
Vote: Lapras I guess I'll place my vote here for now, but I don't actually feel super confident about it, and I'll likely change it
(I realize me outright saying that will make this vote have 0 pressure, but ideally, I'd like to be transparent here because this is not an obvious read and it took a lot of time to explain help)
wow bro ur so towny
Illario and Robyn can you please stop being the same person and change pfp (:
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
push elsewhere
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
dang you were going so well lol. though i think u been likely correct on everything else so far so ill forgive that
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
push elsewhere
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
https://media0.giphy.com/media/1fXD3GODvnlpmK8xI8/giphy.gif
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
and both town most likely
i'm proud that you started using this term (and used it correctly in context!) after i used it once in our dms
Oo fair. Think your towny as your thought seems like multi tiered but obvs you are good wolf etcetc
i feel like the use of 'your' here should significantly narrow down your identity but i am bad at altspec
apparently that gif doesnt loop
https://media.tenor.com/cuOf3RwQuukAAAAC/nobody-gives-a-shit-reaction.gif
what, visor, don't you like godreads? :o
dang you were going so well lol. though i think u been likely correct on everything else so far so ill forgive that
do you think that description of how to read you is ai for robyn? i feel like if they really never misread you across 7 games they should have a good description of your play in mind so you disagreeing with it makes me wonder why you aren't pursuing it further
do you think that description of how to read you is ai for robyn? i feel like if they really never misread you across 7 games they should have a good description of your play in mind so you disagreeing with it makes me wonder why you aren't pursuing it further
not really, I believe they believe it. but there are some makes where i dont think i make myself very findable as town, not sure if lucy has been in many of those hence why i said what i said.
not really, I believe they believe it. but there are some makes where i dont think i make myself very findable as town, not sure if lucy has been in many of those hence why i said what i said.
hm okay
any reads of your own at the moment or not really? other than what you've implied about robyn
hm okay
any reads of your own at the moment or not really? other than what you've implied about robyn
hmmm
probs u as top town. and then cape robyn ras visor and maybeeeeee lapras as different shades of kinda villagery. wouldnt be shocked if im wrong in one of those since theyre mostly light reads and not much to go off from yet
that's honestly a lot more than i expected, but noted
that's honestly a lot more than i expected, but noted
me too lol. i wouldnt put a lot of stock in their accuracy atm though
i did enter fake reads into the thread so we could finally leave rvs
what i said about cape was real but he wasn't obv town, i'll certainly find his alignment before this cycle ends
illario/vulgard/lapras can be town
i put visor as a tr because i thought you literally couldn't read the guy and illario thinking the same is weird, even though just throwing your vote around without comment is somewhat towny, can u elaborate illario man
2am and i should take a melatonin and sleep so i'm no longer nocturnal, will be a fun game
lol u saying the reads were fake is kinda scummy
i find visor fairly readable, but i think that might be because i noticed he has similar tendencies to me as a wolf
why post real reads when you can just post fake ones
lol
lol u saying the reads were fake is kinda scummy
i find visor fairly readable, but i think that might be because i noticed he has similar tendencies to me as a wolf
deal with it, there wasn't a thing to talk about or read before that post
why did u think visor is unreadable?
i agree hes a very good wolf, was just curious though what specifically makes you feel hes unreadable?
why did u think visor is unreadable?
played hyrule with him and nothing else and i don't remember a post from him while playing with him
but during my sign up ban i read some old games which i can't link because site is down
it was some s3 wildcard game with gh/panther/beck/newcomb/lissa, and i read d1 and still didn't really know how to read him besides going off pelts
i do respect his reads tho
i am very readable
you're reading my post right now
played hyrule with him and nothing else and i don't remember a post from him while playing with him
but during my sign up ban i read some old games which i can't link because site is down
it was some s3 wildcard game with gh/panther/beck/newcomb/lissa, and i read d1 and still didn't really know how to read him besides going off pelts
i do respect his reads tho
ehhhh idk what to make of this lol. id normally expect u to somewhat take this as a challenge and try to figure him out instead of just conceding and saying hes unreadable. have you done this with anyone else before?
i did enter fake reads into the thread so we could finally leave rvs
what i said about cape was real but he wasn't obv town, i'll certainly find his alignment before this cycle ends
illario/vulgard/lapras can be town
i put visor as a tr because i thought you literally couldn't read the guy and illario thinking the same is weird, even though just throwing your vote around without comment is somewhat towny, can u elaborate illario man
2am and i should take a melatonin and sleep so i'm no longer nocturnal, will be a fun game
Ha im goated gargle my balls
also if you dont recall any of his posts how can you come to the conclusion that you cant read him because hes unreadable...as opposed to the conclusion that you cant read him because you didnt recall or internalise any of his posts or were likely just not paying enough intention to figure it out?
i am very readable
you're reading my post right now
Dude at least post words wtf are these hieroglyphs
ehhhh idk what to make of this lol. id normally expect u to somewhat take this as a challenge and try to figure him out instead of just conceding and saying hes unreadable. have you done this with anyone else before?
i will rephrase my initial statement because i incorrectly phrased it
i am a chat mafia player, playing with people and live chatting gives me the best reads, not reading old games where i can't participate
and yeah, i did it my first game with pizza until i realized i knew how to read him
and i did it in my first game with holyflare until i also realized i knew how to read him
i'll eventually be able to read him, probably this cycle, however at present i was kinda clueless, and unreadable was a v temporary label
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:21
how did you arrive at that conclusion?
TMI + sheeping rvs
i will rephrase my initial statement because i incorrectly phrased it
i am a chat mafia player, playing with people and live chatting gives me the best reads, not reading old games where i can't participate
and yeah, i did it my first game with pizza until i realized i knew how to read him
and i did it in my first game with holyflare until i also realized i knew how to read him
i'll eventually be able to read him, probably this cycle, however at present i was kinda clueless, and unreadable was a v temporary label
ah kk, fair enough
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:22
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
push elsewhere
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
push elsewhere
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
look at me, I am so cute and new.
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:23
apparently that gif doesnt loop
https://media.tenor.com/cuOf3RwQuukAAAAC/nobody-gives-a-shit-reaction.gif
lmao. Looking forward this interaction
also if you dont recall any of his posts how can you come to the conclusion that you cant read him because hes unreadable...as opposed to the conclusion that you cant read him because you didnt recall or internalise any of his posts or were likely just not paying enough intention to figure it out?
from playing together with him
not from spectating his past game where i can list nego/lissa/beck/sunbae/gh/panther/visor/newcomb all played (site is down and here i am recalling half the list from memory)
those are extremely different things for me
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:27
Dude at least post words wtf are these hieroglyphs
words.
(Visor is town because he hasn't even thought about pocketing townies yet. there)
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:28
Unless it's just Wifom after last game :curtain:
My mum will MD his ass anyway
Raskol is a wolf because he would never say I am town so early as town :curtain:
i think robyn's thought process is a town thought process because it's weird and slightly awkward but not in a wolfy way imo
hopefully i don't get burned on this read lol
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i didn't think robyn saying their previous reads were fake was wolfy in this context, so illario calling it wolfy was suspicious to me, and looking back on his reads i feel like he gave too many but that line of reasoning is kinda stupid
the former is only wolfy if robyn is indeed town, it's actually towny if robyn's mafia and i'm wrong, but i currently think i'm right
this read is quite biased but i do still want to share the thought
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there was that MU game with two vigs a while ago where rask was killed day 1 and flipped mafia
i feel like his posting rn is similar to that game but i'd need some comments on this from other players, there are some people here who were in that game
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:30
Raskol is a wolf because he would never say I am town so early as town :curtain:
https://media.tenor.com/qy_WcGdRzfgAAAAM/xluna-high-five.gif
words.
(Visor is town because he hasn't even thought about pocketing townies yet. there)
oh okay that was pretty bad
Vote: Raskolnikov
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:32
Raskolnikov
lmao skill (and format) issue.
Raskol is a wolf because he would never say I am town so early as town :curtain:
is he normally a paranoid type of player?
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:35
also robyn I know illario/happy fwiw. let me be and push the slots that haven't towntold already.
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:35
is he normally a paranoid type of player?
What prompted this question, where is the parano?a?
also robyn I know illario/happy fwiw. let me be and push the slots that haven't towntold already.
make me uwu
okay gn
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:37
oh okay that was pretty bad
Vote: Raskolnikov
How bad? Did you read the last game?
How bad? Did you read the last game?
which last game? where?
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:41
which last game? where?
lol. IN this very forum. This is the second game to help Sunbae testing his new setup. Read like 5 pages. There is a pretty stark difference (hence my comment about him being prolly town unless he went for strict wifom. Rn he is in his town meta anyway))
is he normally a paranoid type of player?
i don't think he is overly paranoid, no, i was just making a joke because he always jokes about me pocketing him lol
lol. IN this very forum. This is the second game to help Sunbae testing his new setup. Read like 5 pages. There is a pretty stark difference (hence my comment about him being prolly town unless he went for strict wifom. Rn he is in his town meta anyway))
i mean, there is a difference in my posting but idk if it means anything
i dont think me shitposting early is alignment indicative (and i don't think me having a slow start this game is indicative of anything either)
strange read bronana
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:56
i don't think he is overly paranoid, no, i was just making a joke because he always jokes about me pocketing him lol
i mean, there is a difference in my posting but idk if it means anything
i dont think me shitposting early is alignment indicative (and i don't think me having a slow start this game is indicative of anything either)
strange read bronana
I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.
it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.
And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 10:58
Also bronana, that hydra game where spf and you outed our slot is well sorted in my mind in the "never do that again" pile. (that post is useless since wifom, but yes, I know where you are coming from)
I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.
it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.
And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)
fair enough
i guess it doesn't feel that way to me because the circumstances surrounding my posting in that game and this game is v different (this game much slower and i was much more busy at the start - other game very active and copypasta heavy and i was able to be more active)
but its possible that my posting came off a certain way regardless later, just feel like i haven't done anything of note so far
no opinion on vulgard and lapras so far (would like lapras to out their alt, i think i know them but not real interested in giving reads on them if they are gonna give meta reads on others as an alt lol)
Also bronana, that hydra game where spf and you outed our slot is well sorted in my mind in the "never do that again" pile. (that post is useless since wifom, but yes, I know where you are coming from)
i actually dont recall any posts from that game lol
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 11:02
I wish MU wasn't down so I could post copypastas about potatoes rn tbh
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 11:03
i actually dont recall any posts from that game lol
well I recall we were outed because of us handing u a baseless TR and HK not reading wc before posting and revealing me outright lying :D
good times
well I recall we were outed because of us handing u a baseless TR and HK not reading wc before posting and revealing me outright lying :D
good times
ya i remember wolfreading u i just dont recall why lol
godread deez nuts
Vote: Visor
Unironically
What prompted this question, where is the parano?a?
visor said ur read on him was too quick
Also bronana, that hydra game where spf and you outed our slot is well sorted in my mind in the "never do that again" pile. (that post is useless since wifom, but yes, I know where you are coming from)
-.-
90% sure visor is just a villa here, 95% sure on vuldaddy
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 11:44
visor said ur read on him was too quick
Yeah, how is it parano?a?
Ok well robyns likely town
oh yeah i forgot to ask, why?
oh okay
i'll take a look
i have taken a look and i understand your take now but still think it's somewhat premature
meh
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 11:47
Lapras: Are you JDizz dude? :curtain:
Yeah, how is it parano?a?
well i wanted to figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr visor that quick and early, esp from my understanding last game he was a wolf and didnt get caught
90% sure visor is just a villa here, 95% sure on vuldaddy
Vote: illario
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 11:56
well i wanted to figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr visor that quick and early, esp from my understanding last game he was a wolf and didnt get caught
And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.
insert polarisedmeme here. Now,
let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.
(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 11:57
actually, I did the same :wowee:
BUt I didn't sheep a vote on you :curtain:
let me think about you more lol.
And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.
insert polarisedmeme here. Now,
let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.
(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)
i dont sus u bronana, i think ur town lol
And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.
insert polarisedmeme here. Now,
let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.
(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)
and knowing this makes ur read on him even more believable to me lol. hence why i ask alota questions
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:02
Unvote: Visor
What changed Wis?
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:03
unvote
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:05
ladd is outed btw
Lapras - Have I posted enough for you to get a solid read on me yet?? :-P
What changed Wis?
Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it
fair enough
i guess it doesn't feel that way to me because the circumstances surrounding my posting in that game and this game is v different (this game much slower and i was much more busy at the start - other game very active and copypasta heavy and i was able to be more active)
but its possible that my posting came off a certain way regardless later, just feel like i haven't done anything of note so far
no opinion on vulgard and lapras so far (would like lapras to out their alt, i think i know them but not real interested in giving reads on them if they are gonna give meta reads on others as an alt lol)
I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.
That's mostly based on how much he went Commander Visor as wolf in our last game though, but I think that he has an easier time to fake that than the Less Wim - Town Edition Visor he seems to be right now.
I'm honestly disappointed to be towning this game btw
I've only wolfed in 1 turbo this year, that's all my wolf games
I thought this would be a good time and place to practice some wolfing!
Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it
wolfy
I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.
what about that post is deflated
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:14
I'm honestly disappointed to be towning this game btw
I've only wolfed in 1 turbo this year, that's all my wolf games
I thought this would be a good time and place to practice some wolfing!
This post is so trash but
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FreeShinyIcterinewarbler-max-1mb.gif
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:16
Something extraordinaire just happened.
I read "deflated", really thought about flatulences, and now I am pooping.
Something extraordinaire just happened.
I read "deflated", really thought about flatulences, and now I am pooping.
pee pee
poo poo
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:44
ok new alt read, Lapras > Mac. (I confused him with Acro who is the person Robyn invited I guess)
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 12:46
vote: nutella
fair enough
i guess it doesn't feel that way to me because the circumstances surrounding my posting in that game and this game is v different (this game much slower and i was much more busy at the start - other game very active and copypasta heavy and i was able to be more active)
but its possible that my posting came off a certain way regardless later, just feel like i haven't done anything of note so far
no opinion on vulgard and lapras so far (would like lapras to out their alt, i think i know them but not real interested in giving reads on them if they are gonna give meta reads on others as an alt lol)
Burn on you tbh
Rask is handling pressure like a trooper
As I survey the people around me I take note of a familiar name. Visor, a man from a place down under as I recall. We did good work together once upon a time masquerading as witches together, and another he had me dancing to a tune all his own until another detective awoke me from my dazed state. I have never seen Visor as a Detective, but he appears at ease among his peers here. It puts me at ease to see him this way, if only a little.
Vulgard makes his presence known soon after, asking soft questions and showing Lapras that being a majestic dual typed generation one Pokemon will not save them from his gaze. Except, what does this man hope to accomplish by saying all those words which amount to nothing but air at the end of it all? To take a take a stand against another in this deadly game of ours should take commitment, and when we set our sights on another with intent it should be with purpose. When I look into Vulgard’s post I do not see purpose, but only words.
Vote: Vulgard
As I look at how Lapras responds to Vulgard, and how Vulgard responds to Lapras, I cannot help but feel a sense of feeling each other out to some degree. There is a dance at play here. I don’t rightly know whose side these strangers dane for, but what I gather from this conversation is that there is nothing coordinated here between them.
I catch Illario chastising Robyn and I can’t help but to bitterly agree that this is not someone who is obvious in any way. He is a man I have crossed paths with twice, and both times my paranoia led to an innocent man being sent to the gallows for crimes only real to the fervent mind of a desperate detective. I once attended a baseball game in Chicago, and in that game they have a saying: three strikes and you are out. If Illario is one of the people who have snuck into this meeting of the minds I can only hope I have the courage and tenacity to face my past. For now, much like Visor, he appears at ease.
Robyn admits to the room that they have been lying through their teeth the entire time. This is as surprising to me as the Sun rising in the East. Robyn has always possessed a formidable and ambitious mind, and I have been led to believe recently this mind has blossomed in the art of subterfuge. Yet, I have seen how they dazzle when left to their own devices even for a day or two when in the role of detective. It would be a shame to see them go before the mystery picks up in intrigue.
The room seems eager to discuss Raskolnikov to various degrees. Unlike the above names, I have not the faintest clue of who this person is or how they may deceive or aid me. Raskolnikov, what would you say is your greatest asset to your faction as both alignments? What is it that you do best?
My eyes are starting to close of their own accord, and soon I will need to leave this world of the waking and allow the stream of time to pass me by. The last thing I will say is in my experience those that post wistfully about wishing to be against the majority instead of their chosen lot tend to be honest more often than seems probable. We shall see if this Wisdom of the crowd proves to be trustworthy.
For now, I must retire after a long day of journeying through the land of Azeroth with my adventuring friends. When Snorlax and I awake, we shall delve deeper into the mysteries that await us in this game.
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 13:17
Achro: make myself obvioius as villa and chopping wolves with regularity. I always fall for a good pocket though (tsktsktsk).
Being tonally good as a wolf. (I can powerwolf or just buss hard, no rule there, but I am not that good at woofing while I think I am a decent townie).
I will try to digest the rest of that wordy post. Will look again at this Lapras/Vulg interaction
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 13:21
ngl Achro, u mentionning witches and Visor gave me a Tim feel. But then u said u didn't know me. hmm
Prolly better to not bother rn but knowing ur main would help with things (I'd respect it if u don't want to out though)
Ah I do apologize, how very rude of me not to introduce myself. I am earnestly new to this site, invited by Lucy to play on this game. Abroad I am known more fully as Achromatic. Any of the people I discussed, save perhaps the best water/ice type to be invented, can tell you more about me if you wish to see varied perspectives on me as a detective.
I am willing to extend you a small bit of trust, as I suspect most combinations of three people that make up the informed minority would be able to pinpoint just who I am and your reaction felt earnest.
noob rask
also rask achro v/v
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 13:39
Achro: make myself obvioius as villa and chopping wolves with regularity. I always fall for a good pocket though (tsktsktsk).
Being tonally good as a wolf. (I can powerwolf or just buss hard, no rule there, but I am not that good at woofing while I think I am a decent townie).
I will try to digest the rest of that wordy post. Will look again at this Lapras/Vulg interaction
Btw this is why I am allowing the last post from Wisdom, because I can understand their perspective (I would have considered the champ noms if I could have a wolf training game :curtain:). Even if that post was just wifom and awkward, it's prolly not AI
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 13:46
Ah I do apologize, how very rude of me not to introduce myself. I am earnestly new to this site, invited by Lucy to play on this game. Abroad I am known more fully as Achromatic. Any of the people I discussed, save perhaps the best water/ice type to be invented, can tell you more about me if you wish to see varied perspectives on me as a detective.
I am willing to extend you a small bit of trust, as I suspect most combinations of three people that make up the informed minority would be able to pinpoint just who I am and your reaction felt earnest.
Following ur leadership: robyn is this Achro pocketing me after I posted I always fall for a good pocket?
achro i'm not sure why you're singling me out for having no major pushes when nobody has had any major pushes in this game so far and half the playerlist hasn't meaningfully posted
Rask is handling pressure like a trooper
yeah rask seems fine
that’s just how he types
i don’t think ur being pocketed
i tr his slick slick slick fucking read on you, both you and him for it
larpas/vulgard/achro/illario/rask
illario being the weakest read
Wisdom can you post a readslist when ur free
achro i'm not sure why you're singling me out for having no major pushes when nobody has had any major pushes in this game so far and half the playerlist hasn't meaningfully posted
It isn't the lack of push but the amount of words to have a lack of a push. Felt like you were forcing yourself to jump start.
(I am phone posting and will not be doing my creative writing exercise while doing so.)
It isn't the lack of push but the amount of words to have a lack of a push. Felt like you were forcing yourself to jump start.
(I am phone posting and will not be doing my creative writing exercise while doing so.)
oh that's fairly standard
i'm throwing things out there as i build a better picture of the game
i think rask, robyn, maybe visor, maybe you are town
lapras and illario are my main susses, both explained earlier
i'm not super attached to these reads though because like i said there are still people who haven't posted or done anything ai fmpov and i don't feel like the game has really kicked off
i think i'm still voting rask lol
Vote: Unvote
the illario read really boils down to him finding robyn's think about faking their reads wolfy because i really don't think it's wolfy in context and it's the sort of thing wolves would latch onto fmpov
main thing holding me back here is that i could be wrong on robyn in which case illario is just town for this but i currently have robyn as town so yeah
i'm also ok with the nutella votes
Raskolnikov was it you who commented earlier that ladd was outed? how serious was that, and if it was serious, can you explain?
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 14:16
i'm also ok with the nutella votes
Raskolnikov was it you who commented earlier that ladd was outed? how serious was that, and if it was serious, can you explain?
not serious at all. (he hasn't posted and would not activity read him either lol)
PS: you were voting illario, not me. Blame Benneh/Sunbae for slanking (but they are prolly working or waking up rn so there is that)
oh that's fairly standard
i'm throwing things out there as i build a better picture of the game
i think rask, robyn, maybe visor, maybe you are town
lapras and illario are my main susses, both explained earlier
i'm not super attached to these reads though because like i said there are still people who haven't posted or done anything ai fmpov and i don't feel like the game has really kicked off
If nothing else it will be nice to get other people's more detailed thoughts on your opening as it felt you were being handwaved a bit.
I know from experience I tend to find illario's early day 1 reads baffling so I am going to reserve judgment for awhile on delving deeply there.
Why do you think I could be town?
Also hi robyn I see you. I will not elaborate on this until later.
If nothing else it will be nice to get other people's more detailed thoughts on your opening as it felt you were being handwaved a bit.
I know from experience I tend to find illario's early day 1 reads baffling so I am going to reserve judgment for awhile on delving deeply there.
Why do you think I could be town?
Also hi robyn I see you. I will not elaborate on this until later.
i can’t sleep, i am here, what’s up
i can’t sleep, i am here, what’s up
I said I wouldn't elaborate until later SHEESH
But since you are here, why is vul town iyo
I said I wouldn't elaborate until later SHEESH
But since you are here, why is vul town iyo
i was just town against him as scum and his thoughts weren’t half as good and the tone is just different here. i will eventually verify but that + illario tr, and my own read of lapras/vulgard v/v makes for a townread
i see you’ve spectated my two recent scum games, what do you make of them and do you believe you’ll catch me as scum now?
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 14:33
I'm realizing I asked my question poorly, but idk how to ask the question I was trying to ask WELL
maybe I'll just explain what I was trying to do
basically, the fact you called Robyn's townreads a stretch made me wonder if you were saying that because you thought Robyn was forcing reads in RVS as a wolf, or because you were trying to prevent early (good) reads from a villager taking hold
the way in which you called Robyn's reads a stretch made me suspicious because I thought it was tonally wolfy, but since my tonal reads are terrible, I didn't want to rely on that, so I asked a question about your comment
the problem is that I asked the question in such a way that your answer doesn't really help me determine what you were motivated by, lol. gut instinct on your initial post is still "wolf," your response could come from both alignments
Vote: Lapras I guess I'll place my vote here for now, but I don't actually feel super confident about it, and I'll likely change it
(I realize me outright saying that will make this vote have 0 pressure, but ideally, I'd like to be transparent here because this is not an obvious read and it took a lot of time to explain help)
Achro: I am following closely, mostly because I find the bold part agendy.
Vulgard: can you articulate what u found tonally wolfy in MacLapras's post about Robyn's read? Also, why do you like votes on nutella?
Just kidding I lied I never existed, byeeee
god i wish that were me
https://media0.giphy.com/media/1fXD3GODvnlpmK8xI8/giphy.gif
lmao i love visor
current thot during ketchup is vulgard/illario w/w
let's see if the next two pages change this
I'm honestly disappointed to be towning this game btw
I've only wolfed in 1 turbo this year, that's all my wolf games
I thought this would be a good time and place to practice some wolfing!
wolfy post tbh
This post is so trash but
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FreeShinyIcterinewarbler-max-1mb.gif
oh I do not have any original thoughts
As I survey the people around me I take note of a familiar name. Visor, a man from a place down under as I recall. We did good work together once upon a time masquerading as witches together, and another he had me dancing to a tune all his own until another detective awoke me from my dazed state. I have never seen Visor as a Detective, but he appears at ease among his peers here. It puts me at ease to see him this way, if only a little.
Vulgard makes his presence known soon after, asking soft questions and showing Lapras that being a majestic dual typed generation one Pokemon will not save them from his gaze. Except, what does this man hope to accomplish by saying all those words which amount to nothing but air at the end of it all?
lol
lmao even
current thot during ketchup is vulgard/illario w/w
let's see if the next two pages change this
why?
Achro: make myself obvioius as villa and chopping wolves with regularity. I always fall for a good pocket though (tsktsktsk).
Being tonally good as a wolf. (I can powerwolf or just buss hard, no rule there, but I am not that good at woofing while I think I am a decent townie).
I will try to digest the rest of that wordy post. Will look again at this Lapras/Vulg interaction
:stare:
rask seems like he's villa from overnight posts. also sucks that all the chatting happened after I went to bed
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 15:15
rask seems like he's villa from overnight posts. also sucks that all the chatting happened after I went to bed
you will hate us when we cfd you after you went to bed :curtain:
Syn: your takes are good. illario/Vulgard have equity but would expect them to be a tidit less obvious (page 3 posts are eeck) :shrug:
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:28
I'm really glad I checked my emails and wondered why the hell I got a PM on Org.
Forgot I even signed up for this game lmao.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:29
I'm about to speedrun a catchup and find every wolf in one go, let's go.
At like 1:30am when I've not had enough sleep in the first place. Lesgo.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:31
rask v
imma say it before it becomes cool
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 15:32
do you think that description of how to read you is ai for robyn? i feel like if they really never misread you across 7 games they should have a good description of your play in mind so you disagreeing with it makes me wonder why you aren't pursuing it further
not really, I believe they believe it. but there are some makes where i dont think i make myself very findable as town, not sure if lucy has been in many of those hence why i said what i said.
hm okay
any reads of your own at the moment or not really? other than what you've implied about robyn
hmmm
probs u as top town. and then cape robyn ras visor and maybeeeeee lapras as different shades of kinda villagery. wouldnt be shocked if im wrong in one of those since theyre mostly light reads and not much to go off from yet
that's honestly a lot more than i expected, but noted
me too lol. i wouldnt put a lot of stock in their accuracy atm though
question for the class: ww?
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:35
why post real reads when you can just post fake ones
lol
Visor now my mason buddy gg no re
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:36
question for the class: ww?
Maybe.
But we'll only work that one out in Season 3.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:37
played hyrule with him and nothing else and i don't remember a post from him while playing with him
but during my sign up ban i read some old games which i can't link because site is down
it was some s3 wildcard game with gh/panther/beck/newcomb/lissa, and i read d1 and still didn't really know how to read him besides going off pelts
i do respect his reads tho
Visor is a polarised noob.
Just look to see if he's using butter or margarine and you instantly know which alignment he randed.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:38
i will rephrase my initial statement because i incorrectly phrased it
i am a chat mafia player, playing with people and live chatting gives me the best reads, not reading old games where i can't participate
and yeah, i did it my first game with pizza until i realized i knew how to read him
and i did it in my first game with holyflare until i also realized i knew how to read him
i'll eventually be able to read him, probably this cycle, however at present i was kinda clueless, and unreadable was a v temporary label
Do you know how to read me oh overlord of all read accuracy?
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:39
Unless it's just Wifom after last game :curtain:
My mum will MD his ass anyway
Not if I'm busy MDing your mum's ass.
Raskolnikov
03-22-2023, 15:39
Then there posts 129 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843386&viewfull=1#post2053843386), 135 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843392&viewfull=1#post2053843392), 168 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843426&viewfull=1#post2053843426)
Note, in post 169, Vulgard unvotes illario (while saying he was previously voting me).
I will give them the benefit of the doubt, but would like help on this.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:41
Then there posts 129 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843386&viewfull=1#post2053843386), 135 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843392&viewfull=1#post2053843392), 168 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053843426&viewfull=1#post2053843426)
Note, in post 169, Vulgard unvotes illario (while saying he was previously voting me).
I will give them the benefit of the doubt, but would like help on this.
Here's the cinch.
Vul randed wolf.
illario probably didn't.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:43
Normally I read Achro's posts and I'm like "Not sure I agree with it but it's a post."
This game I just don't read Achro's posts.
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:45
Oh yeah Syn randed town.
Vote: Vulgard
EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:48
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EnderWiggin
03-22-2023, 15:59
Oh yeah just popping back in to let everyone know that I will make 0 effort to read Dya this game.
If I ever need to put them on a reads list I will just collate all the reads on them by everyone else and aggregate them against each other and whatever the mathematical perfect result is will be exactly where Dya exists on my reads list.
If nothing else it will be nice to get other people's more detailed thoughts on your opening as it felt you were being handwaved a bit.
I know from experience I tend to find illario's early day 1 reads baffling so I am going to reserve judgment for awhile on delving deeply there.
Why do you think I could be town?
Also hi robyn I see you. I will not elaborate on this until later.
it's frankly very surface level especially considering your competence at the wolf alignment but the rp thing seemed >rand town
the fact you're dropping it at all, regardless of reason, though, basically brings it back down to null
idk if it's wolfy but i'm no longer reading it as towny
there's also the fact i thought you questioning my posting was >rand town in the current game context because i find that wolves typically prefer to just kill me if i'm not looking like a potential ML for a change and if you were a wolf you'd either just do that or you'd try to ML me later into the game if you're alive instead
which is a rather far-fetched set of conclusions that extends far later into the game than right now so it wasn't super strong but it was on my mind
realistically there's also an element of me wanting you to be town because it would be nice to work with you instead of uh... clashing, let's just put it that way, after last time
Achro: I am following closely, mostly because I find the bold part agendy.
Vulgard: can you articulate what u found tonally wolfy in MacLapras's post about Robyn's read? Also, why do you like votes on nutella?
votes on nutella are fine because i don't think she has played the game yet and the longer that is the case the more likely it is that she's a wolf (she is a polarized player)
she can towntell if she's town so i'm not concerned about this causing her to be MLed
Stretch brah
Howd you get here
I think the rvs in general has been awka
the post from lapras i found tonally wolfy was this one
the last line seems a bit tacked on, like the type of fake deeper thought that wolves seem to enjoy tossing in every now and then
and the first two lines just seem more dismissive than they should be? in a sort of patronizing way as i interpreted it
idk if anyone else sees this
current thot during ketchup is vulgard/illario w/w
let's see if the next two pages change this
Vote:illario
this site has no joycats :(
realistically though i feel the best about this vote until he gets into the game more
i know when he's town he eventually ends up writing something that convinces me he's town
question for the class: ww?
i was prodding him for information and had to mull over his responses which is why i stopped asking more questions
ultimately i'm not super satisfied with them. i think his approach to robyn is a bit hands-off here and he doesn't seem like he's actually trying to read robyn (particularly shown by him not questioning their apparent misinterpretation of how he plays). he says that there are games where he doesn't make himself very findable as town but robyn doesn't know them so their stance is fine, however i feel like him not asking any questions about it at all is still lacking in inquisitiveness. he has a fair few light reads, but he doesn't really seem to be investigating anything and he seems rather hands-off.
i don't really think this makes him lock mafia and i think he can play like this as town, but i'm expecting him to dig his heels in and myself to start thinking he's town at some point if he's actually town, which hasn't happened yet
Oh yeah Syn randed town.
Vote: Vulgard
the way this read on syn came about for you probably makes you town and the two of you are likely not w/w by extension of the same reasoning so that's nice
i'm town tho
Syn: your takes are good. illario/Vulgard have equity but would expect them to be a tidit less obvious (page 3 posts are eeck) :shrug:
can u pls not
if i find illario has improved by eod then my preferred yeet right now would probably be lapras
i know some people townread that slot, i'd like to hear why
if i find illario has improved by eod then my preferred yeet right now would probably be lapras
i know some people townread that slot, i'd like to hear why
nutella would also be an option i guess
Oh yeah Syn randed town.
Vote: Vulgard
thank you ender very cool
votes on nutella are fine because i don't think she has played the game yet and the longer that is the case the more likely it is that she's a wolf (she is a polarized player)
she can towntell if she's town so i'm not concerned about this causing her to be MLed
this is a nice hedge
who is your gardener
this is a nice hedge
who is your gardener
please don't be like pizza
last game i played here, pizza tunneled me for the majority of the time he was alive because i was hedging, and then he desperadod into me on day 2 and died because i was town
i'm sincerely hoping that everyone else who was in that game learned something from that lol
(i know you weren't in that game but i'm making you aware)
pizza is a god
i would love to be like pizza
however making one pizza post would irreparably ruin me and cause enough psychic damage to level a city block
Visors entry is completely NAI + hes visor and robyn (congrats on your transition btw!!) loves meta n gamestate reads n this aimt right
Cape imo town tells a bunch when town. Better to wait on him solving to make a read. Also basically said nothing thst feels rvs towny
hmm who is behind this SSS-tier majestic pokemon
Yes but i wanna see how long it takes for ppl to work it out
Oh I think I know ok
alt reading is my forte as we all know
Nothing actually. Visor and Syn are just memeing.
BUt illario is a wolf :curtain:
I'll think about ur offer.
hwy illario out of the three
I'm realizing I asked my question poorly, but idk how to ask the question I was trying to ask WELL
maybe I'll just explain what I was trying to do
basically, the fact you called Robyn's townreads a stretch made me wonder if you were saying that because you thought Robyn was forcing reads in RVS as a wolf, or because you were trying to prevent early (good) reads from a villager taking hold
the way in which you called Robyn's reads a stretch made me suspicious because I thought it was tonally wolfy, but since my tonal reads are terrible, I didn't want to rely on that, so I asked a question about your comment
the problem is that I asked the question in such a way that your answer doesn't really help me determine what you were motivated by, lol. gut instinct on your initial post is still "wolf," your response could come from both alignments
Vote: Lapras I guess I'll place my vote here for now, but I don't actually feel super confident about it, and I'll likely change it
(I realize me outright saying that will make this vote have 0 pressure, but ideally, I'd like to be transparent here because this is not an obvious read and it took a lot of time to explain help)
this is a post written by vulgard
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
agree w/this
Raskol is a wolf because he would never say I am town so early as town :curtain:
ok this is something
i think robyn's thought process is a town thought process because it's weird and slightly awkward but not in a wolfy way imo
hopefully i don't get burned on this read lol
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i didn't think robyn saying their previous reads were fake was wolfy in this context, so illario calling it wolfy was suspicious to me, and looking back on his reads i feel like he gave too many but that line of reasoning is kinda stupid
the former is only wolfy if robyn is indeed town, it's actually towny if robyn's mafia and i'm wrong, but i currently think i'm right
this read is quite biased but i do still want to share the thought
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there was that MU game with two vigs a while ago where rask was killed day 1 and flipped mafia
i feel like his posting rn is similar to that game but i'd need some comments on this from other players, there are some people here who were in that game
i kind of like this take but im not fully there. i have a hard time reading illario though
the rask take in addition to visor's is cool though
vote: Raskolnikov
for now
robyn/vulgard/lapras/achro are p towny
achro/illario/cape middling
syn/wisdom bleh
wait i put achro in two tiers i meant to put visor in the top one lol
at least i think thats where i wanted to put visor but i have more to read
I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.
it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.
And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)
And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.
insert polarisedmeme here. Now,
let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.
(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)
ngl this whole conversation is so hard for me to follow so im kinda ignoring it
Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it
I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.
That's mostly based on how much he went Commander Visor as wolf in our last game though, but I think that he has an easier time to fake that than the Less Wim - Town Edition Visor he seems to be right now.
ok wisdom v
also yeah i definitely know who lapras is idk if he decided to out after visor asked but its drzeus
Something extraordinaire just happened.
I read "deflated", really thought about flatulences, and now I am pooping.
you either decided to just out yourself as wolf or allowed macdougall to post on your account
I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.
it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.
And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)
And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.
insert polarisedmeme here. Now,
let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.
(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)
Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it
I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.
That's mostly based on how much he went Commander Visor as wolf in our last game though, but I think that he has an easier time to fake that than the Less Wim - Town Edition Visor he seems to be right now.
i think i'm still voting rask lol
Vote: Unvote
the illario read really boils down to him finding robyn's think about faking their reads wolfy because i really don't think it's wolfy in context and it's the sort of thing wolves would latch onto fmpov
main thing holding me back here is that i could be wrong on robyn in which case illario is just town for this but i currently have robyn as town so yeah
why do you think they can't both be town?
i see the rationale on illario calling the fake reads thing wolfy being wolfy but i don't think it's impossible they're both town
oh shit that multiquoted a bunch of things still, getting used to site sry
lapras is 100% drzeus
source a: read his posting style lol its obv, only dz types in that exact way
source b: search lapras in mu discord
current thot during ketchup is vulgard/illario w/w
let's see if the next two pages change this
this is a silly but possibly real thought for syn to have
question for the class: ww?
i'm not really feeling it
anyway rask maybe town for now sure
vote: achro
lets spice it up
Here's the cinch.
Vul randed wolf.
illario probably didn't.
reverse that my upside down friend
Normally I read Achro's posts and I'm like "Not sure I agree with it but it's a post."
This game I just don't read Achro's posts.
he really hasn't said anything of substance afaict
the post from lapras i found tonally wolfy was this one
the last line seems a bit tacked on, like the type of fake deeper thought that wolves seem to enjoy tossing in every now and then
and the first two lines just seem more dismissive than they should be? in a sort of patronizing way as i interpreted it
idk if anyone else sees this
hmm yeah i can see this take
knowing it's dz i think he is ever so slightly in town meta but it's very very light so far
i was prodding him for information and had to mull over his responses which is why i stopped asking more questions
ultimately i'm not super satisfied with them. i think his approach to robyn is a bit hands-off here and he doesn't seem like he's actually trying to read robyn (particularly shown by him not questioning their apparent misinterpretation of how he plays). he says that there are games where he doesn't make himself very findable as town but robyn doesn't know them so their stance is fine, however i feel like him not asking any questions about it at all is still lacking in inquisitiveness. he has a fair few light reads, but he doesn't really seem to be investigating anything and he seems rather hands-off.
i don't really think this makes him lock mafia and i think he can play like this as town, but i'm expecting him to dig his heels in and myself to start thinking he's town at some point if he's actually town, which hasn't happened yet
the way this read on syn came about for you probably makes you town and the two of you are likely not w/w by extension of the same reasoning so that's nice
i'm town tho
in which vulgard continues to be transparently town and posting good vulgardy thoughts
this is a silly but possibly real thought for syn to have
all of my thoughts are real because i am a real boy
anyway rask maybe town for now sure
vote: achro
lets spice it up
how did rask go from outed wolf to town in ten minutes
wolfy
what about that post is deflated
The amount of negations and self reflections ^^
Why do you all post when I am asleep? I still have to read like 5 pages, not sure about Vulgard's push on Lapras eh had at the bottom of page 2. While obviously I consider the town read on me to be a good read since I am town, I think it's a stretch to say they are mafia trying to prevent good villager reads from coming out of RVS as I haven't seen mafia quite operate with that line of thinking in RVS. It might be villagery but I ain't too sure.
how did rask go from outed wolf to town in ten minutes
well you see i read a lot of posts that took place over a long period of time in those ten minutes
I'm really glad I checked my emails and wondered why the hell I got a PM on Org.
Forgot I even signed up for this game lmao.
im going to town read ender for being relatable
Honestly I can see illario as wolf this game off seeming to have been "trying too hard to fit into the game in RVS"
I got those vibes and Rask probs did too.
I'm honestly disappointed to be towning this game btw
I've only wolfed in 1 turbo this year, that's all my wolf games
I thought this would be a good time and place to practice some wolfing!
lol
Raskolnikov i've never misread illario across like 7 games, he's someone who you should let cook for longer and he'll make himself pretty clearly town eventually
push elsewhere
also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w
and both town most likely
okay okay
But as soon as I parse who Lapras is I will have a read on them, since what they have done up to this point at least has been this combo of, this is towny for certain people and this is wolfy for certain people
That is the first post I side-eye in this game
but knowing how Wis usually posts as town and how they can get scum read by phrasings like that, I am leaning to town read that
i did enter fake reads into the thread so we could finally leave rvs
spicy. Figured the read on me was at the very least a half-joke
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