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i was going to write a snarky post about how no one has any clue how to read me but i'm deciding against it
it's not going to be very helpful
instead how about you consider working together and building something resembling a towncore
we are absolutely screwed otherwise
everyone is on their own island and we just had a huge maj wagon on vt!wisdom
this isn't going anywhere
meh i might reconsider some of these depending on what i find later but gth these are the townreads i would give
maybe syn as well but i don't know why i still townread him which is likely a bad sign
because I'm cute
It's day 3 and you towncore me off one really good post?
Man you must think I suck geesh
look i'm just choosing to run with it because i don't know how to read you lmao
might change my mind if i find something that demands a change in my mind
why not just take the tr
let me organize my thoughts
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there is one thing that people consolidated on and that's the wisdom wagon at eod
the fact it had such a ton of votes and got hammered and flipped town tells me everything i need to know about this game
and that is simple: the gamestate is fucked and the wisdom wagon likely contains 2-3 wolves
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i think it makes the most sense to assume that wolves wanted wisdom to be the ml
wisdom was a wagon for the entire day
wisdom became a huge wagon at the end of the day
wisdom was only townread by like 1-2 people, most others just placed votes on their wagon and said w/e
i'm guilty of that myself but at least i didn't end there (not much better if boq is also v)
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the problem here is that the wisdom wagon is massive and always has plenty of villagers on it
i think i'll just review reasons to vote wisdom and vote the people who were the most passive in the effort
or whose cases sucked
i can't see why a villager would care about the bolded
Alright I'm busting out the pre-post
Robyn... bruh
Sigh okay, first off, sorry for over-talking there, I was not realtiming at all to the point of just not paying any attention. Listen, I wasn't expecting the lolhammer to just drop. Dropped at a bad time too I was thinking Wisdom was towny overall from my catch up, even with my questions.
Before I read everything I want to bring out the hot take monster in me
1. The team is Syn/Vulgard/Lapras (or Visor) for gamestate reasons.
2. Boq has been town this whole time and we have been skill issue-ing as a society.
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I like dya's comment about not vibing with the thread 1837 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845125&viewfull=1#post2053845125) a lil bit.
YOU STILL VOTED WISDOM AFTER 1860 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845148&viewfull=1#post2053845148) WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? oduhvcoiwrdhvoijhidsjviojfslivjhlsijhvlisdjcklv jcxkljvlfihvlicxhlkvhlkjh
Nobody even mentioned it.
Wolf controlled thread.
im sad i didnt get here fast enough.
bruh the way Wisdom was back and forth on boq in same page was towny.
I like dya's 1845 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845133&viewfull=1#post2053845133) too on Vulgard
1849 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD/page62?p=2053845137#post2053845137) "we need to" okay nutella, don't make me push u agian.
1861 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845149&viewfull=1#post2053845149) Rask have you considered pushing people for wolfy things for once?
LOL how did people interpret that as a wolf slip? I get it, but also, think harder nerds.
We're doomed with most town being bad except dya somehow. Not like they are high efforting but banger post on Vulgard.
Rask/nutella would be a hilarious mafia world, I just wanna say. Like they win 1000 games out of 1000.
1866 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845154&viewfull=1#post2053845154) hi vulgard, so uh, you randed scum yes? You can stop pocketing me now and let Syn have a turn pocketing me. The classic wolf dynamic, always keep Cape on his toes. Anyways keep saying scummy stuff like this if you are mafia pleeeeeease, kthx in advance. Otherwise, I have a visceral negative reaction to this.
Vulgard is doing the wolfy defense thing in like page 64 so like... help me out here if you are villager Vulgard.
EnderWiggin WTF, you had it.
Well that's all I have to say about that, looks like my Vulgard bubbling suspicion is holding up from a glance at least but I will explore some things further. First Syn.
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Okay I misinterpreted Syn's treatment of his comments of my "latest posts" but I do think the comments still ring to me as strange.
I don't dislike the thought expressed in 1340 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844617&viewfull=1#post2053844617) weh.
The more im reading Syn, the more I just walk away thinking "it ain't Syn". Which is fortunately a good sign.
I could see the staleness of Syn's reads be of concern though I will say, with the constant nutella/wisdom w/w thing. Then day 2 Syn brought on Vulgard for like 2 posts he made.
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Speaking of Vulgard
1895 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845183&viewfull=1#post2053845183) was a fair point when it came to Boq's defense of Wisdom.
1204 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844481&viewfull=1#post2053844481) Alright Syn good job. This post is bad and also just wolf trying to awkwardly talk to 2 towns. I think.
That last EOD post looked pretty forced out. "Wolf flip plz". Also Vulgard's victim-posting is ew. 1775 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845061&viewfull=1#post2053845061) sorry but only a wolf constructs a sentence like "i feel like your reads are just omgus wisdom"
Me remembering the RP read that Vul had on Achro and trying the urge even harder of not just thinking this is wolf. The weird achro push is weird.
I think Vulgard has paranoia that is wolfy. So much defensiveness even before the EOD shenanigans.
Posts before this haven't struck me as exactly bad but eh. It's like Vulgard's WIM just dropped a good bit. Especially when wanting to do stuff when it comes to Ender.
I tinfoil 1540 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844820&viewfull=1#post2053844820) as w/w with Visor.
1510 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844790&viewfull=1#post2053844790)? more like 1610 lol amirite.
1504 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844784&highlight=#post2053844784) something about this is whispering in my ear..... "hello my name is vulgard and I am wolf..." but this voice is quite faint and distant but believable all the same...
1219 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844496&viewfull=1#post2053844496) oh my gosh this is mafia.
A Vulgard/Visor pairing feels pretty on the nose but very obvious at the same time to me.
VOTE: Vulgard
i dont think lapras/vulgard can be w/w with how thye've interacted and vulgard looks much worse
I just got the vibe that Rask was loud wrong town and I think Vulgard more fits typical wolf archetypes to me
but alive enough to vote: Vulgard
vote: vulgard
sorry breaux
i can't see why a villager would care about the bolded
copium
oh shit the multiquotes got pasted
i was going to comment on them by saying that if that's how you'll treat my slot then you're going to get wisdom 2
it's the exact same thing in the making
achro why are you voting cape
look i'm just choosing to run with it because i don't know how to read you lmao
might change my mind if i find something that demands a change in my mind
why not just take the tr
Because I don't care if I am suspected or tred, I care about the reasons that go beneath it.
Anyway important to keep in mind we are in perilous territory game state wise so let's not end the day super early.
Vote: Raskolnikov for now
achro why are you voting cape
In boq v worlds cape was way, way too prepared in their case against boq imo. It was exceedingly detailed and good looking to the point that it was almost as if they knew it needed to look great because the flip was going to not look great.
Also I don't really know if they have the experience with me to be the one shining in the darkness for me so early.
Also I think if you are a wolf now is an excellent time to bus you.
now that i know wisdom was town i really wish they'd had time to do their famous w/w chartz
i have a few disassociations that narrow down possible teams
i know its prob better to just find a wolf first without worrying about how they fit but brain go brrr
In boq v worlds cape was way, way too prepared in their case against boq imo. It was exceedingly detailed and good looking to the point that it was almost as if they knew it needed to look great because the flip was going to not look great.
Also I don't really know if they have the experience with me to be the one shining in the darkness for me so early.
Also I think if you are a wolf now is an excellent time to bus you.
yes these are all good points tbh
yes these are all good points tbh
and here he's wondering why i tr him
and here he's wondering why i tr him
Yes, because your thinking process matters. How you arrive to things matters. I can speculate, I could assume, but if you're town given your thread position right now you should be doing whatever you can to open your brain up to me and let me sift through it so I can find you town because you look cooked right now.
Yes, because your thinking process matters. How you arrive to things matters. I can speculate, I could assume, but if you're town given your thread position right now you should be doing whatever you can to open your brain up to me and let me sift through it so I can find you town because you look cooked right now.
honestly I've been bleeding WiM the whole game and I'm not sure why
it's probably quite visible too, as in I've been unpleasant to interact with
my thinking process is extremely barebones and I realize that
idk I just feel a bit tired of this game
honestly I've been bleeding WiM the whole game and I'm not sure why
it's probably quite visible too, as in I've been unpleasant to interact with
Yeah, I can say you are very different than in the previous games I have been with you. I have never seen you have what I would call an objectively 'off' game but you appear to be floundering here. If you are town, I don't know why you'd have cape in your towncore when he is trying to stab you this late into the game tbh.
If you are town, which you will presume to be from your own perspective for a moment with a real towncore then Cape has gone from one floundering town (Boq) to another (you) while calling your other towncored person (me) town very early day 1.
Really from your perspective I feel like Cape should be lighting the world on fire with red flags.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 01:53
Raskol is wolf btw
Just about to drive for 3 hrs so see you when I stop passing out afterwards
im a lil drunk and will maybe offline soon due to birthday shenanigans with my family.
uh
so like the boq case was developed night 1... a little bit, but even then you can clearly see i put pieces of it throughout that day so saying it was "too prepared" is frankly silly.
IDK maybe it is nutella and im being skill issued into reading them as town
im kinda in the waiting room for EnderWiggin's post on Rask because one of them might be mafia at this point since Visor is dead town and I was PR reading Rask whole time
Achro when did i come after you? Very early day 1? no?
can't wait for robyn to seethe and gasp when nutella is mafia like that post about achro having fair points against me is frankly awful.
Achro's latest post is scummy lol imagine me being wrong on Achro. Unfortunately im blaming him for the loss of this game since he is town. Scapegoat moment to deflect blame from myself.
Boq could be mafia man IDK, could have done that song and dance with Wisdom to get townreads.
One vote and some drinks and suddenly cape is changing his mind on everything.
Squirm.
Oh interesting, cape and dya are w/w.
Anyway waiting for ender to say more about rask before I continue down that road
Vulgard/cape/rask/dya can't all be wolves but they are
nutella would be a perfectly cromulent wolf
nutella would be a perfectly cromulent wolf
I wish
achro
boq
ender
lapras
syn
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dya
cape
rask
vulgard
it's uh a Lot more complicated than this in my mind, theres a web of interdependencies that i dont want to go into yet especially until ender talks about rask but ill leave this here for now and see yall in the morn
i am watching the turnaround on rask with great interest
Everyone in this game is a clown tbh
Vote: Vulgard
Syn with your own words, what was a wolf slip in Wisdom's post?
boq's ardent defense of wisdom looks good to me in hindsight because of this so maybe the wagons really were v/v
in which case i wasn't helping but whatever we proceed
Werent you saying I didnt defend Wisdom enough
What changed
In boq v worlds cape was way, way too prepared in their case against boq imo. It was exceedingly detailed and good looking to the point that it was almost as if they knew it needed to look great because the flip was going to not look great.
Also I don't really know if they have the experience with me to be the one shining in the darkness for me so early.
Also I think if you are a wolf now is an excellent time to bus you.
This is a good point that I haven't considered. I have mostly town read Cape for having takes I expect from town him and how he started my cw on eod1, but I have also had a few qualms on that - which no one has really discussed with me
Raskol is wolf btw
Just about to drive for 3 hrs so see you when I stop passing out afterwards
huh
Syn with your own words, what was a wolf slip in Wisdom's post?
"best case scenario if we're both wolves, there's two more wolves"
thought they were accidentally tmi slipping you as town
im a lil drunk and will maybe offline soon due to birthday shenanigans with my family.
uh
so like the boq case was developed night 1... a little bit, but even then you can clearly see i put pieces of it throughout that day so saying it was "too prepared" is frankly silly.
IDK maybe it is nutella and im being skill issued into reading them as town
im kinda in the waiting room for EnderWiggin's post on Rask because one of them might be mafia at this point since Visor is dead town and I was PR reading Rask whole time
Achro when did i come after you? Very early day 1? no?
can't wait for robyn to seethe and gasp when nutella is mafia like that post about achro having fair points against me is frankly awful.
Achro's latest post is scummy lol imagine me being wrong on Achro. Unfortunately im blaming him for the loss of this game since he is town. Scapegoat moment to deflect blame from myself.
Boq could be mafia man IDK, could have done that song and dance with Wisdom to get townreads.
I am starting to feel like regardless of your alignment, you don't believe in this read on me. Like obviously if you are scum, but if you're town you just want me to be scum
like, i dont believe anyone can see my play in this game and conclude "boq is playing to get town read" tbh
"best case scenario if we're both wolves, there's two more wolves"
thought they were accidentally tmi slipping you as town
i dont really see it but okay
What was your Wisdom case? Did you ever post anything like that?
"best case scenario if we're both wolves, there's two more wolves"
thought they were accidentally tmi slipping you as town
i dont really see it but okay
What was your Wisdom case? Did you ever post anything like that?
i dont really see it but okay
What was your Wisdom case? Did you ever post anything like that?
at some point
but if the requirement here is for me to go find it and quote it, I'd rather just be wolf-read
at some point
but if the requirement here is for me to go find it and quote it, I'd rather just be wolf-read
well you could restate your reasons why you were so sure that Wisdom was a wolf
I am starting to feel like regardless of your alignment, you don't believe in this read on me. Like obviously if you are scum, but if you're town you just want me to be scum
like, i dont believe anyone can see my play in this game and conclude "boq is playing to get town read" tbh
ur kinda right though
I am starting to feel like regardless of your alignment, you don't believe in this read on me. Like obviously if you are scum, but if you're town you just want me to be scum
like, i dont believe anyone can see my play in this game and conclude "boq is playing to get town read" tbh
what is the solve?
in essence it was a total dismissal of pressure on them as a joke between friends, when it wasn't.
and tbh i based a lot of my read off of how nutella and vulgard treated them, and to a lesser extent, cape
vulgard had that spat of posts where he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being, and I thought it was for cred when wisdom flipped wolf. just really wishy-washy posting where it only gains weight in hindsight after the flip
in essence it was a total dismissal of pressure on them as a joke between friends, when it wasn't.
and tbh i based a lot of my read off of how nutella and vulgard treated them, and to a lesser extent, cape
vulgard had that spat of posts where he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being, and I thought it was for cred when wisdom flipped wolf. just really wishy-washy posting where it only gains weight in hindsight after the flip
you know if vulgard is mafia he just knows Wisdom is town right?
Vulgard/cape/rask/dya can't all be wolves but they are
I have attached a wall for you
Now you can see what sticks as you halphazardly throw takes into the thread without much thought
You are welcome
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:05
i think rask fits as a wolf with the wisdom push and the weird stuff around pr talk and the weird stuff around visor otherwise (by weird stuff i mean visor suspected him ig)
vote: nutella
weird stuff? Visor never explained anythning. He was just laying low because he was the joat to avoid a NK.
I had a joat read on you, now that's gone, you are back into the POE.
fwiw I intended to reeval most of my reads today. aorn I have had one wrong read (Wisdom) but it was such a shoker I am bound to reeval everything anyway.
you know if vulgard is mafia he just knows Wisdom is town right?
unga bunga syn no understand
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:06
rip Visor
Wisdom: sorry fam. I potatoed (was close to get there at one point but heh. next game, bisous)
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:09
I am also NGL, I thought Rask was JOAT
why?
in essence it was a total dismissal of pressure on them as a joke between friends, when it wasn't.
and tbh i based a lot of my read off of how nutella and vulgard treated them, and to a lesser extent, cape
vulgard had that spat of posts where he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being, and I thought it was for cred when wisdom flipped wolf. just really wishy-washy posting where it only gains weight in hindsight after the flip
let's try agian
"he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being"
you said this
i say okay but he knows alignment of Wisdom as mafia because mafia know ALL ALIGNMENT
The idea that Vulgard would have to word thing in way to where he take cred regardless of how Wisdom flip is technically nonsensical right?
why?
the way you were responding to my bait
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:12
i could see syn/vulgard/rask idk
kinda dont think vulgard/lapras are w/w and i'm really feeling this rask read atm
not sure about syn
i don't think maf!nutella goes from liking every single rask post to voting Rask today
they liked my posts about Wisdom so I really don't know what you are talking about tbh. You are defying logic here. (like Occam Razor would suggest the opposite lol)
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:14
f multiquote
the way you were responding to my bait
I don't know what you are talking about again.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:15
but yeah it's funny that wisdom literally townslipped right when ppl were calling another post made very close to that one a wolf slip
it's funny you didn't do anything to save them actually. Why do you come now and brag about anything actually? Show me your work pal
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:17
nobody's consolidating on anything and most people aren't answering my questions
i don't feel like i have anyone to work with
my early townreads are dying left and right, they're almost all dead at this point
and i'll probably get wolfread for this post as well lmao
I have tasked myself with ISOing you today. I'll prolly get back to you. If people want me to have the time.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:20
i think cape/nutella/achro/boq is my new towncore
that's my initial thought at least
can you write some words about them, specifically in the context of your previous post analysing the game state (the one where you post there were 2/3 wolves on Wisdom at eod)?
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:24
Vote: Raskolnikov for now
literally the worst vote you could come up with. UNless your gamestate post was just a show? (" i think i'll just review reasons to vote wisdom and vote the people who were the most passive in the effort" lol)
What happened between these 2 posts Vulg?
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:32
Raskol is wolf btw
Just about to drive for 3 hrs so see you when I stop passing out afterwards
show ur work (ngl this feels like a Firefighter post)
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:34
Vulgard/cape/rask/dya can't all be wolves but they are
vote: Ender < this is prolly a wolf though
Boq/Syn/dya might be my only TR so far
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:36
i am watching the turnaround on rask with great interest
You are the sole pure towny of this game lmao. (If you are wolfing you go to champ pal :curtain:)
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:37
Day 1 Boq goat??
that's an embarassing post but ngl you feel townie and I wanna work with you today.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:42
you know if vulgard is mafia he just knows Wisdom is town right?
You know that if syn is town he just doesn't know that right?
(I think u don't understand what he is posting here, he is posting about D2!Vulgard pre wisdom flip)
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:44
the way you were responding to my bait
goint back to this, can you repost and explain pls
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:46
Dya I need to reread but I gotta sya Boq's post about them being uncooperative were convincing. But i still owe Visor a reread on this slot tbh. He had them POEed and I trust his reads more than mine lol
i feel like i shouldn't townread EnderWiggin but i do
i feel like i shouldn't townread EnderWiggin but i do
okay so reason: just the vibe of what they say even though it is fairly chill.
You know that if syn is town he just doesn't know that right?
(I think u don't understand what he is posting here, he is posting about D2!Vulgard pre wisdom flip)
i think i just don't understand his point
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:53
i think i just don't understand his point
nvm for now. I would rather have Syn post about it than me tbh.
I think I was getting pocketing by nutella actually.
vote: nutella
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:54
ngl Cape, you townreading Ender out of vibes D3 with after 5 villa flips is a big ?
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 08:55
but show me your baits and my preplies to them pls. Explain your joat read pls.
nice derp attempt.
I have found you really interested in PR chat in the last 5 pages (since robyn outed their MD thing)
It was this post and pretty much just this that made me think that. Also I thought u were Visor at EOD 1 just at the time.
ngl Cape, you townreading Ender out of vibes D3 with after 5 villa flips is a big ?
it was his townread on wisdom and then going never mind. In hindsight, just giving
I read overnight posts and doubted my read on Wis being town
this as an explanation is not great
There was also that shading Robyn's push on him thing I guess
if both Vulgard/Ender are wolves, they have sure been on the defense
Vote: EnderWiggin
I have concluded that i have no idea what im doing this game
tempted to immediately swap back
i hope you got mafia to find real MD :curtain:
Look back at the first message
The mafia kill is assigned to someone
im guessing this is predetermined and mafia cannot choose who kills
there were others (i don't remember everything i did) but i was referring to these
if someone wants to like give a case on dyachei, I am all ears but im just not seeing it with dya besides "they are underwhelming". I haven't gotten the same vibes from them to the people I think are playing scummy right now Ender/Vulgard
Lapras' play just highly confuses me if they are town so they can be wolfpiled just for that
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:15
ok. I don't know how you conclude that as opposed to some random townie getting sus because of you 1) chatting a lot of PRs and 2) derping about the assigned kill
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 09:26
Rask's wolf play is built around more emotive tells than his town play. He's had too consistent a worldview tbh.
Also he had motion n1 and I don't believe that he got pked, maybe firefighter but probably not?
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 09:26
Also jsyk I'm on a work trip this entire day phase so if you thought I was slanking before you ain't seen nothin yet
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:27
Rask's wolf play is built around more emotive tells than his town play. He's had too consistent a worldview tbh.
Also he had motion n1 and I don't believe that he got pked, maybe firefighter but probably not?
lmao vote: Ender
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:28
That's exactly what I was saying when posting this felt like a firefighter post.
dude is willing to tdome me even if he knows he is dead by tmr, because 1) he is the ff and a pr liability to his team (and his partners prolly deep) 2) because he wants to out the real MD in the process
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:29
ENDERWIGGIN IS OUTED.
why claim a motion on D3 after 5 villa flips and and not D2 if he has a red.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:29
ENDER is a wolf. lock wolf.
I hate this will make us loose the day of discussion prolly, but ENder is outed wolf.
GG Ender
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:30
Rask's wolf play is built around more emotive tells than his town play. He's had too consistent a worldview tbh.
Also he had motion n1 and I don't believe that he got pked, maybe firefighter but probably not?
dude just harclaimed wolf in front of your eyes. pls and tu
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:33
vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender
vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender
vote: Ender
vote: Ender vote: Ender
vote: Ender vote: Ender vote: Ender
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:36
like it's unbelievable to me Ender had a JOAT read on me SOD2. Even more when you factor in the fact Robyn was poisoned.
Turbo this wolf
what is the solve?
I am waiting to see what happens with the Ender vs Rask stuff to make a conclusion on that. I also think Vulgard's play yesterday is scummy. Rn I am reconsidering you and Syn, but I think I need to go back to my Nutella - Syn dynamic and update it
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:43
like why out this now if he is actually the MD since he has no more information than D2 (I am being charitable here giving some thoughts to his hypothesis I was visited by the firefighter N1)?
Why would the MD out himself now (ie without a red check) and not stay quiet to be usefull l8r when he can be usefull? why now? what info he has he didn't D2?
Come one Ender, you make no sense as a villa. and u would tbh.
outed wolf
in essence it was a total dismissal of pressure on them as a joke between friends, when it wasn't.
and tbh i based a lot of my read off of how nutella and vulgard treated them, and to a lesser extent, cape
vulgard had that spat of posts where he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being, and I thought it was for cred when wisdom flipped wolf. just really wishy-washy posting where it only gains weight in hindsight after the flip
i dont really think this matches with how sure you seemed to be on Wisdom, that a chunk of the read was based on how other players treated Wisdom. Also not a fan how you lead into Vulgard shade
that's an embarassing post but ngl you feel townie and I wanna work with you today.
i feel like i am being shamed back into line tbh
Rask's wolf play is built around more emotive tells than his town play. He's had too consistent a worldview tbh.
Also he had motion n1 and I don't believe that he got pked, maybe firefighter but probably not?
Is this a hard claim? EnderWiggin
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:48
sorry I am getting even worse than ever in English but I am so triggered rn lol
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 09:49
Vote: Raskol
Thought you might be Joat and wasn't sure d2.
If y'all think I sac like this as wolf for Raskol who was being sussed in thread then lmao
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 09:49
Is this a hard claim? EnderWiggin
Yes
Since I apparently voted Ender sometime yesterday, I conclude that I am still the goat tbh
Yes
or maybe i am a clown
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:55
Vote: Raskol
Thought you might be Joat and wasn't sure d2.
If y'all think I sac like this as wolf for Raskol who was being sussed in thread then lmao
oh yes y sac friendo
https://media0.giphy.com/media/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952w7zb7hp6ny5ikor4wtptyu6n0t78xkv3djr88eb3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
(it's all in the game yo, luvu etc etc)
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:56
oh yes y sac friendo
https://media0.giphy.com/media/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952w7zb7hp6ny5ikor4wtptyu6n0t78xkv3djr88eb3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
(it's all in the game yo, luvu etc etc)
and I mean literally whatever your alignment is lol.
@real MD: you never counterclaim here pls.
and I mean literally whatever your alignment is lol.
@real MD: you never counterclaim here pls.
Actually if you are town I think you do. It's -1 from mylo I believe the lynch is more important than the role.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:59
Actually if you are town I think you do. It's -1 from mylo I believe the lynch is more important than the role.
nah. I'll flip vanilla and you just turbo Ender afterward.
then it is 4 v 2 with the MD alive which is not bad?
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 09:59
double check my math here.
Actually if you are town I think you do. It's -1 from mylo I believe the lynch is more important than the role.
Was trying to say if you are town it would be mylo after you die ao counter 100% needs to happen now
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:01
nah. I'll flip vanilla and you just turbo Ender afterward.
then it is 4 v 2 with the MD alive which is not bad?
also in this situation, you please sleep if no red check. Don't repeat the last game fiasco all over again.
nah. I'll flip vanilla and you just turbo Ender afterward.
then it is 4 v 2 with the MD alive which is not bad?
4 v 2 two people can claim MD who do you trust since it's mylo tho
Much better to save a ml
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:02
Was trying to say if you are town it would be mylo after you die ao counter 100% needs to happen now
well, the best move is obviously to not claim and yeet Ender :shrug:
well, the best move is obviously to not claim and yeet Ender :shrug:
Forgive me if I literally never do that lol
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:03
Also if you read my ISO I softed kinda.
Also thought that if wolf holding longer is better here.
My n2 I'll out later I am trying to win the game.
I also got motion.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:04
Also if you read my ISO I softed kinda.
Also thought that if wolf holding longer is better here.
My n2 I'll out later I am trying to win the game.
I also got motion.
look at this wolf.
A villa would have MD me again lol.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:05
lmao Ender, who are you going to frame now?
Also if you read my ISO I softed kinda.
Also thought that if wolf holding longer is better here.
My n2 I'll out later I am trying to win the game.
I also got motion.
Considering motion can be false positive on rask I would love to know n2 as well before proceeding with the day. All info up front please.
https://media.tenor.com/J1vAz4U26XYAAAAC/scottpilgrim-fight.gif
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:07
Also if you read my ISO I softed kinda.
Also thought that if wolf holding longer is better here.
My n2 I'll out later I am trying to win the game.
I also got motion.
This is never a villa. You don't win the game by leaking unconclusive info in the thread. kill Ender
This is never a villa. You don't win the game by leaking unconclusive info in the thread. kill Ender
I mean ender is simple. Either he gets cc'd or he doesn't.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:11
Considering motion can be false positive on rask I would love to know n2 as well before proceeding with the day. All info up front please.
I actually was worried the motion was a false positive.
But Raskol's reaction makes me strongly believe I'm right.
I will out info later. Lemme have my moment. Mostly just seeing reactions for Raskol proper before I out my infos.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:12
I mean ender is simple. Either he gets cc'd or he doesn't.
Rask can't cc, so that leaves him stuck at claiming I should be turboed but then telling "Town MD" that I "Shouldn't be CCed"
Tbh I wanna be cced because depending on who does it could out the entire mafia team and I'll self-vote to prove it because we still have an ML left.
I will admit saying outed over and over again isn't the best reaction.
But I would need to iso rask to come to any sort of conclusion even though math is against him.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:13
I mean ender is simple. Either he gets cc'd or he doesn't.
you are embarassing yourself.
Ender is always a wolf. u are prolly a partner since you push with him to out the MD and yeet a villa lol.
Rask can't cc, so that leaves him stuck at claiming I should be turboed but then telling "Town MD" that I "Shouldn't be CCed"
Tbh I wanna be cced because depending on who does it could out the entire mafia team and I'll self-vote to prove it because we still have an ML left.
Yeah... didn't get that either lol. Obvious cc situation.
you are embarassing yourself.
Ender is always a wolf. u are prolly a partner since you push with him to out the MD and yeet a villa lol.
Yeah I don't think so.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:15
I will admit saying outed over and over again isn't the best reaction.
But I would need to iso rask to come to any sort of conclusion even though math is against him.
well if you knew Ender's villa game, which is sensible, and the fact I am a villa, you would react like me. Ender just harclaimed wolf itt since his first post D3. :shrug: good job on the wolf equity Achro.
(if one of u is villa lol. skill issue)
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:16
Rask has literally outed himself in response to my statement lmao.
I mean the check mostly outs him in the first place but still lmao.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:16
Rask can't cc, so that leaves him stuck at claiming I should be turboed but then telling "Town MD" that I "Shouldn't be CCed"
Tbh I wanna be cced because depending on who does it could out the entire mafia team and I'll self-vote to prove it because we still have an ML left.
that's just a pasta from last night wc prolly
well if you knew Ender's villa game, which is sensible, and the fact I am a villa, you would react like me. Ender just harclaimed wolf itt since his first post D3. :shrug: good job on the wolf equity Achro.
(if one of u is villa lol. skill issue)
I mean yes, I as enders partner am telling someone to cc so he dies
????
What are you even talking about
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:18
Rask has literally outed himself in response to my statement lmao.
I mean the check mostly outs him in the first place but still lmao.
it doesn't. and the fact you can't explain it but yet posted that is proof you aren't the MD specifically, nor a villa.
You are the mafia firefighter.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:18
Nutella/Cape probably not partner
Neither Achro/Vul
I think that 4 is probably clear. My check has been on none of them.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:19
it doesn't. and the fact you can't explain it but yet posted that is proof you aren't the MD specifically, nor a villa.
You are the mafia firefighter.
I can't explain what?
You're doing this emotive throw hands at my posts as wolf nj
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:23
I mean yes, I as enders partner am telling someone to cc so he dies
????
What are you even talking about
read my posts bruh. f i r e f i g t h e r is a liability at this point and u already posted the maf plan for end game lmao.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:24
If anyone looks at my D2 I was leery of Rask that day and put him just above wolf reads because I wasn't sure if he was JOAT.
Also I confirmed there was motion at Rask's mum N1, which is the funniest result soft I've ever done tbh.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:24
I can't explain what?
You're doing this emotive throw hands at my posts as wolf nj
ur meta is just wrong and a lie. I have wolfed 2 times against you. one I was emo for out of thread reasons and got outed D2 iirc, the other one we swept with me the deep wolf. emotions aren't AI for me lol
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:25
Visor flipping JOAT pretty much guaranteed I was claiming today tho.
read my posts bruh. f i r e f i g t h e r is a liability at this point and u already posted the maf plan for end game lmao.
Rask I am kind of stunned you don't see the value of a correct lynch over a power role at this stage of the game and it borders on the completely unbelievable tbh
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:27
If anyone looks at my D2 I was leery of Rask that day and put him just above wolf reads because I wasn't sure if he was JOAT.
Also I confirmed there was motion at Rask's mum N1, which is the funniest result soft I've ever done tbh.
that's not a soft or anything. u, Visor, and me have been posting this since last game a lot. hide better smh
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:28
that's not a soft or anything. u, Visor, and me have been posting this since last game a lot. hide better smh
I have never "Confirmed motion at your mum's place" before.
But also if I got NKed and flipped MD people would notice it as the only hint about motion and know what I meant.
The fact that it fed into the joke just worked even better.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:30
Anyway I need to do some other things and then crash for the night so gluck I'll be back in 24ish hours to provide my other night result and hopefully the wolf team.
If someone hard ccs me and doesn't retract I am happy to die to out the wolf team but would like the chance to post at least once before dying so I can out my other result
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:30
Rask I am kind of stunned you don't see the value of a correct lynch over a power role at this stage of the game and it borders on the completely unbelievable tbh
Achro, the fact I am villa makes it so I don't need a cc to know Ender is wolfing here. why out this now and not D2? he has no proof I am a wolf but still out himself?
the correct lynch is Ender lol.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:32
Achro, the fact I am villa makes it so I don't need a cc to know Ender is wolfing here. why out this now and not D2? he has no proof I am a wolf but still out himself?
the correct lynch is Ender lol.
The fact that you don't even consider for a moment if you're villager that I could actually be MD and you got Firefighted is kinda funny tbh.
Or hell, that you got hit by Powerkill that wiffed.
Achro, the fact I am villa makes it so I don't need a cc to know Ender is wolfing here. why out this now and not D2? he has no proof I am a wolf but still out himself?
the correct lynch is Ender lol.
I was thinking earlier that mylo -1 was a good time to out actually due to the Wiggle room. Just kind of sucks for us that ended up being day 3 due to circumstances.
I get it from your perspective but is it common here to murder uncountered power claims in open setups and for it to actually be a wolf???
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:33
I was thinking earlier that mylo -1 was a good time to out actually due to the Wiggle room. Just kind of sucks for us that ended up being day 3 due to circumstances.
I get it from your perspective but is it common here to murder uncountered power claims in open setups and for it to actually be a wolf???
Yes if they claimed when being wagoned.
No otherwise.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 10:34
Anyway I need to do some other things and then crash for the night so gluck I'll be back in 24ish hours to provide my other night result and hopefully the wolf team.
If someone hard ccs me and doesn't retract I am happy to die to out the wolf team but would like the chance to post at least once before dying so I can out my other result
"MD pls out yourself before I die. pls and tu"
the fact you didn't double down on me N2 is telling (because then the proba I'd be a wolf would be so high lol)
Werent you saying I didnt defend Wisdom enough
What changed
true actually, i did say that
idk i changed my mind lol
im a lil drunk and will maybe offline soon due to birthday shenanigans with my family.
uh
so like the boq case was developed night 1... a little bit, but even then you can clearly see i put pieces of it throughout that day so saying it was "too prepared" is frankly silly.
IDK maybe it is nutella and im being skill issued into reading them as town
im kinda in the waiting room for EnderWiggin's post on Rask because one of them might be mafia at this point since Visor is dead town and I was PR reading Rask whole time
Achro when did i come after you? Very early day 1? no?
can't wait for robyn to seethe and gasp when nutella is mafia like that post about achro having fair points against me is frankly awful.
Achro's latest post is scummy lol imagine me being wrong on Achro. Unfortunately im blaming him for the loss of this game since he is town. Scapegoat moment to deflect blame from myself.
Boq could be mafia man IDK, could have done that song and dance with Wisdom to get townreads.
idk about this post
can you write some words about them, specifically in the context of your previous post analysing the game state (the one where you post there were 2/3 wolves on Wisdom at eod)?
well achro and boq ended offwagon
boq defended wisdom when it was -ev to do as wolf (i said this before but i weigh that more with wisdom flipping v)
achro had good posts yesterday and today + also ended offwagon
i think it's not impossible there's at least one wolf who ended offwagon but i like both their posts for different reasons
cape i'm actually re-evaluating right now because of what others are saying and i still have yet to look into his treatment of wisdom but i thought his posts as a whole formed one of the towniest isos in the game
similar case with nutella except i don't really know where she's going rn but we melded hard on day 2 and i weigh melds pretty highly
literally the worst vote you could come up with. UNless your gamestate post was just a show? (" i think i'll just review reasons to vote wisdom and vote the people who were the most passive in the effort" lol)
What happened between these 2 posts Vulg?
i remembered that dya was talking about visor + me and lapras had me/achro wolves and a lot of other people were offwagon and i tr nutella so kinda by process of elimination i remembered you as someone who might fit here
though looking back on it i think dya posting susses about me and about visor as wisdom was dying is a fairly bad look because it's like setting up for future days
again i need to look into wisdom susses which is going to be an awful experience on this site but yeah
if someone wants to like give a case on dyachei, I am all ears but im just not seeing it with dya besides "they are underwhelming". I haven't gotten the same vibes from them to the people I think are playing scummy right now Ender/Vulgard
see the above
Lapras' play just highly confuses me if they are town so they can be wolfpiled just for that
i'm really not sure what you're doing rn
like why out this now if he is actually the MD since he has no more information than D2 (I am being charitable here giving some thoughts to his hypothesis I was visited by the firefighter N1)?
Why would the MD out himself now (ie without a red check) and not stay quiet to be usefull l8r when he can be usefull? why now? what info he has he didn't D2?
Come one Ender, you make no sense as a villa. and u would tbh.
outed wolf
mm i like this response
I mean ender is simple. Either he gets cc'd or he doesn't.
this is very true though
dya/syn/rask or ender apparently
maybe cape?
i still think the lapras take on me/achro was towny but maybe i'm giving it too much credit since he ended up on wisdom anyway iirc
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:51
Rask's post isn't reasonable wtf.
1. I have another check.
2. I know he's not JOAT now
3. I have a narrowed view on who could be wolf.
Like even in a world where my N3 is useless, JOAT's death makes that info so much more valuable.
I'm going to point out that MD had a guilty on me D2 in the first game where I was wolf and didn't out it until later too.
EnderWiggin
03-28-2023, 10:51
Also leaving claiming until Mylo is stupid and more easily CCed.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 11:06
Rask's post isn't reasonable wtf.
1. I have another check.
2. I know he's not JOAT now
3. I have a narrowed view on who could be wolf.
Like even in a world where my N3 is useless, JOAT's death makes that info so much more valuable.
I'm going to point out that MD had a guilty on me D2 in the first game where I was wolf and didn't out it until later too.
well, yes they outed when their peek meant a red check actually. Which isn't the case here.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 11:08
it's not like you outed it fully and ask for a chat about it so the town collectively narrow the POE etc... nah.
You are pushing one single villa with your lol stuff since day start.
Maybe people will see the difference between these two approachs?
ender being pr would explain why he felt inexplicably towny despite objectively not being so
thats all i gotta say
VOTE: UNVOTE
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 11:13
ender being pr would explain why he felt inexplicably towny despite objectively not being so
what?
why did he feel town to you?
why did he feel town despite being objectively not so iyo?
how being a pr would make him feel townie to the thread despite his posting?
gosh I hate this game lol. people just driving me nuts with their nonsense rn. taking a break tbh.
looking back at some of ender's day 1 posts and the fact he hasn't been cc'd despite most people checking in makes me struggle to believe this claim isn't real but i'll withhold complete judgment until everyone has been here
what?
why did he feel town to you?
why did he feel town despite being objectively not so iyo?
how being a pr would make him feel townie to the thread despite his posting?
gosh I hate this game lol. people just driving me nuts with their nonsense rn. taking a break tbh.
he seemed tonally pretty solid
and prs do want to exist in the zone where they're lightly townread but not too much
it'd make sense for it to be deliberate on his part
LOL look at Vulgard's flipping their read on me man
holy canoli
this whole game has gone to the dump idk what to beleive anymore
I'm just flabbergasted at half of the lobby
LOL look at Vulgard's flipping their read on me man
holy canoli
you started posting really weird
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 11:23
like even if Ender isn't CCed, it just doesn't mean I am a wolf here. wtf
If Ender is villa, that's prolly the biggest throw I have seen. it just makes sense as wolf.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 11:29
https://media4.giphy.com/media/M11UVCRrc0LUk/giphy.gif
as someone who has been hardcore tunnelled for two days straight, I find it amusing to see people be so AGHAST when the suspicion comes for them.
Idfk what to make out of this
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 12:11
as someone who has been hardcore tunnelled for two days straight, I find it amusing to see people be so AGHAST when the suspicion comes for them.
Idfk what to make out of this
it's not so much that than Ender being a wolf. It's in the interest of town I don't get chopped here.
I mean, JOAT is dead. Even if Ender is a villa telling the truth, from an outsider Pov it's still not better than 50/50. For his second peak it's even worse since they could have been peeked by Visor too. It's just so alien to me to do this as villa lol. The way he did it too. But it actually makes a lot of sense to do this as mafia. Occam Razor and stuff :shurg:
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 13:10
Recovering my mind here is hard, ngl. but still worth trying.
there were others (i don't remember everything i did) but i was referring to these
why did you bait for JOAT reads in the first place Cape?
so one in ender/rask probably, vulgard +1
im not sure why nutella has me as a wolf again because i thought she was finally figuring me out yesterday
Im pretty sure cape is still v
as someone who has been hardcore tunnelled for two days straight, I find it amusing to see people be so AGHAST when the suspicion comes for them.
Idfk what to make out of this
whats your poe look like rn?
yeah i think dya is wolf
yeah, of course you do. I think you're a wolf
now we can talk about why Im not a wolf if you want. But Im not and i don't want to be a game losing mis-elim
whats your poe look like rn?
1 in ender/rask i think, vulgard probs, then I need to revisit my cape/nutella/syn reads
i think syn has been wolfy today
1 in ender/rask i think, vulgard probs, then I need to revisit my cape/nutella/syn reads
i think syn has been wolfy today
i think i need to see a full player list. because I have syn/nut/cape/you as villager and I dont think that's possible
1 in ender/rask
vulgard prob w
boq prob v, nutella prob v
don't think lapras can be w/w with vulgard
that leaves
syn
achro
i think i need to see a full player list. because I have syn/nut/cape/you as villager and I dont think that's possible
Achro
Boq
Cape90
dyachei
EnderWiggin
lapras
nutella
raskolnikov
Syn
Vulgard
dyachei
1 in ender/rask
vulgard prob w
boq prob v, nutella prob v
don't think lapras can be w/w with vulgard
that leaves
syn
achro
Maybe now you can try to read me.
Could you imagine though? Actually reading Achro. In this economy?
Anyway I haven't thought it through with an ISO but assuming Rask W then I think I can probably set my lovely Boq/Lapras theory ablaze.
Cape/Vul have a lot of equity imo with Cape's vote to start the day + Boq being likely V.
Ender V
Lapras I think really can only be paired if Boq is W at this point because the worst thing they did was a post I thought they TMI'd Boq W and if that's not true then I have been fine with Lapras all game.
Nutella has been passing the vibe check
I still think it is more likely than not the ladd kill was an attempt to smear dya (although their lack of read of me is a mix of endearing and infuriating tbh)
I need to iso syn today at some point.
1 in ender/rask
vulgard prob w
boq prob v, nutella prob v
don't think lapras can be w/w with vulgard
that leaves
syn
achro
oh yeah achro and lapras exist
at least achro had a good take on cape
oh yeah achro and lapras exist
at least achro had a good take on cape
I've tried to kill you two days in a row how do you forget I exist.
This might be your towniest post in the game wtf
I've tried to kill you two days in a row how do you forget I exist.
This might be your towniest post in the game wtf
literally everyone has tried to kill me this game sooooo
oh yeah achro and lapras exist
at least achro had a good take on cape
i think if you look at vulgard's Iso, it's not compatible with being w/w with lapras. And lapras ISo isn't all that bad
i think if you look at vulgard's Iso, it's not compatible with being w/w with lapras. And lapras ISo isn't all that bad
Yeah I had them as obviously not w/w with Lapras day 1 when I iso'd them both
+1 there.
oh i forgot cape on my list. I should read his iso but it feels like a lot of wallposts
is there an easy way to ISO on this site
is there an easy way to ISO on this site
There is a sticky on this forum for new users that has it and other tips in there.
is there an easy way to ISO on this site
if you look at the thread from the forum page and click on the number of replies, it pops open a window that has players listed by name - if you click the number next to their name it'll give you MOST of an ISO. I've also found that clicking the name brings you to their recent posts but these are truncated
reading through syn's iso, I think if vulgard is a wolf, syn very likely isn't (though I guess not impossible if he busses a lot)
achro probably just v
and also can't be aligned with vulgard
which has me worrying about my vulgard read because I have like 2-3 people I dont think are with vulgard
Rask's wolf play is built around more emotive tells than his town play. He's had too consistent a worldview tbh.
Also he had motion n1 and I don't believe that he got pked, maybe firefighter but probably not?
ENDERWIGGIN IS OUTED.
why claim a motion on D3 after 5 villa flips and and not D2 if he has a red.
Yep, this is what I was waiting for.
vote: raskolnikov
Literally thought rask was only town if he was exactly md, thought ender was more likely the real md already after looking back at some stuff, and this reaction is not it
Like it was never a firm red and he knows that soooo lol
like why out this now if he is actually the MD since he has no more information than D2 (I am being charitable here giving some thoughts to his hypothesis I was visited by the firefighter N1)?
Why would the MD out himself now (ie without a red check) and not stay quiet to be usefull l8r when he can be usefull? why now? what info he has he didn't D2?
Come one Ender, you make no sense as a villa. and u would tbh.
outed wolf
Nothing you're saying makes any sense my guy
I realize that if I've picked the wrong side of this tdome and ender has fooled me then I'll be toast but rask is already just a wolf and this makes everything fit so gl
and I mean literally whatever your alignment is lol.
@real MD: you never counterclaim here pls.
https://media.tenor.com/XwoX3mw-N20AAAAS/ithinkyoushouldleave-what.gif
lmfao bruh
Also if you read my ISO I softed kinda.
Also thought that if wolf holding longer is better here.
My n2 I'll out later I am trying to win the game.
I also got motion.
I saw your softs yeah. Nice
This is never a villa. You don't win the game by leaking unconclusive info in the thread. kill Ender
Keep digging this hole bronana I'm quite sure I've picked the right side of history
Rask telling me MD shouldn't counterclaim here if Ender is wolf and I am stupid for wanting that is the peak of gaslighting tbh.
Rask telling me MD shouldn't counterclaim here if Ender is wolf and I am stupid for wanting that is the peak of gaslighting tbh.
Actually excuse me he said I was a wolf with Ender I believe.
Maybe it was both.
Nutella/Cape probably not partner
Neither Achro/Vul
I think that 4 is probably clear. My check has been on none of them.
can you get me to why not cape?
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 17:13
https://media.tenor.com/XwoX3mw-N20AAAAS/ithinkyoushouldleave-what.gif
lmfao bruh
I dunno what to tell u. V!Ender just handed the game to wolves.
Funny how u dont care about the fact I am telling you his meta is wrong.
Would you like me to link to the giraffe game?
Or u dont care about fact checking
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 17:21
Actually excuse me he said I was a wolf with Ender I believe.
Maybe it was both.
I mean is it hard to understand Ender has no red check?
At best its a 50/50 for my slot, and its 40/60 for his other pretended motion peek.
And u guys just happily go "yeah, good, makes sense"
Not even factoring in dude had a motion on every nights (which is 6/15?6/12 prob, ie a 20% chance) lol.
And its me who is digging?
wtf
thats all i gotta say
VOTE: UNVOTE
LOL look at Vulgard's flipping their read on me man
holy canoli
this whole game has gone to the dump idk what to beleive anymore
I'm just flabbergasted at half of the lobby
Lol yeah found a rask teammate.
Also vulgard is town again.
I mean is it hard to understand Ender has no red check?
At best its a 50/50 for my slot, and its 40/60 for his other pretended motion peek.
And u guys just happily go "yeah, good, makes sense"
Not even factoring in dude had a motion on every nights (which is 6/15?6/12 prob, ie a 20% chance) lol.
And its me who is digging?
Even if I accept your math at face value that is still roughly 17% more equity above rand that you are a wolf mechanically.
But then I have to consider the fact that a very specific action had to take place night one for you to be town in this scenario, which isn't really 50/50 anymore.
Also your reaction was about as bad as I could imagine given that, mechanically speaking, what you were saying makes no sense whatsoever.
I know it isn't a red check but you could not have flailed more last night if you were a magikarp.
wtf
thats all i gotta say
VOTE: UNVOTE
LOL look at Vulgard's flipping their read on me man
holy canoli
this whole game has gone to the dump idk what to beleive anymore
I'm just flabbergasted at half of the lobby
so one in ender/rask probably, vulgard +1
im not sure why nutella has me as a wolf again because i thought she was finally figuring me out yesterday
Im pretty sure cape is still v
You fit too well with cape for me to ignore, even if I see a slight amount of towny spark in your posts it really has not been enough.
Especially since I think vul is town again, I think I just have the team
You fit too well with cape for me to ignore, even if I see a slight amount of towny spark in your posts it really has not been enough.
Especially since I think vul is town again, I think I just have the team
Who was your third again?
Like dya's been doing the thing where they focus too much on how people are reading them which they do as town but they also do other stuff as town. I haven't seen much actual solving from them this game.
Anyway we wait for ender's second result, blast rask, and go from there but yeah I think it's just cape/dya atm
Anyway we wait for ender's second result, blast rask, and go from there but yeah I think it's just cape/dya atm
What made you swap on Vul?
1 in ender/rask
vulgard prob w
boq prob v, nutella prob v
don't think lapras can be w/w with vulgard
that leaves
syn
achro
I don't think vulgard is wolf anymore so if you're town your avenue to working with me is probably looking into lapras.
What made you swap on Vul?
His posts after the claim. Just felt real
Cape's on the other hand, yikes
His posts after the claim. Just felt real
Cape's on the other hand, yikes
Cape has been shook since I voted him lol
ender being pr would explain why he felt inexplicably towny despite objectively not being so
looking back at some of ender's day 1 posts and the fact he hasn't been cc'd despite most people checking in makes me struggle to believe this claim isn't real but i'll withhold complete judgment until everyone has been here
you started posting really weird
These in particular. He has a bit of a rocky start with liking rask's reaction which I find a bit bewildering but I went in with confbias already having thought rask w/ender md, so I think it's just a real uninformed reaction. Then he goes back and sees what I had seen from ender that makes it make sense. And reacts to cape in a way that vibes with me.
It's not impossible vulgard is wolf and just decided to handle the claim that way after seeing how it was received, I guess. The contrast with cape just struck me and I think cape fits more on a team with rask
Also my d1 reads are often better than I give them credit for and I wolfread cape and rask early and townread vulgard so brain goes brrrr
These in particular. He has a bit of a rocky start with liking rask's reaction which I find a bit bewildering but I went in with confbias already having thought rask w/ender md, so I think it's just a real uninformed reaction. Then he goes back and sees what I had seen from ender that makes it make sense. And reacts to cape in a way that vibes with me.
The first quote pings me as being really manufactured sounding tbh. But the second one is fine, while the third one seems too non-descript for me to read too much into it.
I'll have to dig into him more later to see if he feels not paired with rask.
nutella, just elim me then, because Im not gonna work a lot harder in a CHILL game
The first quote pings me as being really manufactured sounding tbh. But the second one is fine, while the third one seems too non-descript for me to read too much into it.
I'll have to dig into him more later to see if he feels not paired with rask.
Yeah I mean maybe. Just was my snap take. It's also not by any means impossible that cape and vulgard are w/w
nutella, just elim me then, because Im not gonna work a lot harder in a CHILL game
nutella
what do you think about my thought that the n1 kill was meant to make dya look bad? Any credence iyo?
rask, I think you're not allowing for the fact that ender could have thought you were JOAt. outing the info early was probably not a good move, so if ender is MD, then this is good play
like i think it's nagl to keep pushing ender for not outing this early and Im leaning rask wolf of the pair
nutella
what do you think about my thought that the n1 kill was meant to make dya look bad? Any credence iyo?
yeah that's fair, I did have the same thought at the time
dyachei if you do end up having time to do anything else though i suggest considering if cape has been pocketing you
yeah that's fair, I did have the same thought at the time
dyachei if you do end up having time to do anything else though i suggest considering if cape has been pocketing you
have you read the rest of my posts from today? I'm considering it
I'm considering that vulgard might not be a wolf
ffs
Im ALREADY DOING the things you think I should be doing
Cape90 i do not understand your reaction to the claim stuff, what was the frustration aimed at, and what is your actual take on rask
have you read the rest of my posts from today? I'm considering it
I'm considering that vulgard might not be a wolf
ffs
Im ALREADY DOING the things you think I should be doing
you said you should read him but there was no particular alignment speculation there
but sure thats fair, and i did see your hesitance on vulgard
hm i did like my cape/vulgard world a lot yday though
i don't really think it's syn or lapras
what are your thoughts on achro and why nut?
what are your thoughts on achro and why nut?
i'm fairly solid on him just being town on vibes and solving angle, a lot of his posts have resonated with me and feels genuinely uninformed
let's try agian
"he worded them in such a way that he could take credit for either way wisdom's alignment ended up being"
you said this
i say okay but he knows alignment of Wisdom as mafia because mafia know ALL ALIGNMENT
The idea that Vulgard would have to word thing in way to where he take cred regardless of how Wisdom flip is technically nonsensical right?
do I really need to explain why a wolf would deign to pretend and lie in a mafia game
You are the sole pure towny of this game lmao. (If you are wolfing you go to champ pal :curtain:)
this is a very roomy pocket with all modern amenities
i dont really think this matches with how sure you seemed to be on Wisdom, that a chunk of the read was based on how other players treated Wisdom. Also not a fan how you lead into Vulgard shade
i've been shading vulgard all game wdym
If anyone looks at my D2 I was leery of Rask that day and put him just above wolf reads because I wasn't sure if he was JOAT.
Also I confirmed there was motion at Rask's mum N1, which is the funniest result soft I've ever done tbh.
lmao
reading through syn's iso, I think if vulgard is a wolf, syn very likely isn't (though I guess not impossible if he busses a lot)
riding public transit is what the cool kids do
this is a very roomy pocket with all modern amenities
it really was a pocket
Anyway I haven't thought it through with an ISO but assuming Rask W then I think I can probably set my lovely Boq/Lapras theory ablaze.
Cape/Vul have a lot of equity imo with Cape's vote to start the day + Boq being likely V.
Ender V
Lapras I think really can only be paired if Boq is W at this point because the worst thing they did was a post I thought they TMI'd Boq W and if that's not true then I have been fine with Lapras all game.
Nutella has been passing the vibe check
I still think it is more likely than not the ladd kill was an attempt to smear dya (although their lack of read of me is a mix of endearing and infuriating tbh)
I need to iso syn today at some point.
i think the smear dya theory is the type of thing that's going to misclear a wolf here
it's more like an excuse than a legitimate reason for a townread imo
nobody has even seriously attempted to push dya in this game i would say, there's been some suspicion but nothing much
i guess there's the argument that wolves wouldn't stick our their necks to push v!dya based on a frame nightkill but that's speculative
honestly maybe syn is a wolf too
EnderWiggin you had a tr on this, have you found other reasons
i think the smear dya theory is the type of thing that's going to misclear a wolf here
it's more like an excuse than a legitimate reason for a townread imo
nobody has even seriously attempted to push dya in this game i would say, there's been some suspicion but nothing much
i guess there's the argument that wolves wouldn't stick our their necks to push v!dya based on a frame nightkill but that's speculative
I mean I think killing ladd is a good kill because ladd is good.
But I weigh the equity of a dya scum team killing ladd right when ladd's dying breath was to say dya was wolf vs a non-dya team who might think 'well that's a neat little bonus we can use at some point.'
Also I think there might be something oddly townie about Dya refusing to read me for days.
I mean, ladd to my knowledge never did read any of my posts before dying. Ender didn't read any of my posts for a long time either.
Secret town tells.
honestly maybe syn is a wolf too
EnderWiggin you had a tr on this, have you found other reasons
pizza says only wolves say honestly
i feel like we have to solve the mech thing today or we lose and that kind of sucks
i feel like we have to solve the mech thing today or we lose and that kind of sucks
if this is v/v violence it's LYLO tomorrow
raskol always dies today regardless.
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:24
rask, I think you're not allowing for the fact that ender could have thought you were JOAt. outing the info early was probably not a good move, so if ender is MD, then this is good play
it's not what I meant fwiw. I am saying Ender doesn't have any conclusive info if he is a villa. And the way he presented his results (well he didn't present his results actually, just a partial one) is just pushing another ML.
Anyway, yeah it's maybe just a bad reaction from me. but it was still a reaction from villa!me. :shrug:
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:27
ok gl town, u will need it. (maybe I will come back if Ender posts something of interest, but ngl reading nutella/achro rn is disgusting me and this is supposed to be chill, so bye bye friendos)
hey raskol do you remember visor's low-power 13er on MU
frog's reaction to me "red-checking" him?
you're copying that right now
hey raskol do you remember visor's low-power 13er on MU
frog's reaction to me "red-checking" him?
you're copying that right now
nvm he left
why won't you 350-post :(
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:37
Even if I accept your math at face value that is still roughly 17% more equity above rand that you are a wolf mechanically.
But then I have to consider the fact that a very specific action had to take place night one for you to be town in this scenario, which isn't really 50/50 anymore.
Also your reaction was about as bad as I could imagine given that, mechanically speaking, what you were saying makes no sense whatsoever.
I know it isn't a red check but you could not have flailed more last night if you were a magikarp.
like this post. No I am not roughly 17%, 19%, or Idktf how much more equity above rand. I am or I have been visited by a wolf (since I am not the JOAT and I wasn't targeted N1 because it's robyn), period. So it is exactly RAND. So Ender has strictly NOTHING against me mechanically. NOTHING.
Lettuce think about his second (still unseen) peek. it's even worse, since that guy could have been visited by Visor. So a red peek means even less since he has actually more chance (50% more, 3 out of 5) to be a villa.
But Ender still outs its misleading results, him as a PR and people are assuming I am a wolf lol. And people are assuming this is good play from villa!Ender.
disgusting. any villa should reconsider tbh.
Hf
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:38
hey raskol do you remember visor's low-power 13er on MU
frog's reaction to me "red-checking" him?
you're copying that right now
yeah. What was frog alignment?
like this post. No I am not roughly 17%, 19%, or Idktf how much more equity above rand. I am or I have been visited by a wolf (since I am not the JOAT and I wasn't targeted N1 because it's robyn), period. So it is exactly RAND. So Ender has strictly NOTHING against me mechanically. NOTHING.
Lettuce think about his second (still unseen) peek. it's even worse, since that guy could have been visited by Visor. So a red peek means even less since he has actually more chance (50% more, 3 out of 5) to be a villa.
But Ender still outs its misleading results, him as a PR and people are assuming I am a wolf lol. And people are assuming this is good play from villa!Ender.
disgusting. any villa should reconsider tbh.
Hf
Raskolnikov
what's your solve? assume ender is town for it
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:43
yeah. What was frog alignment?
Oh yeah Syn, Frog, who exploded, was town. (I remember lol I was a wolf)
like this post. No I am not roughly 17%, 19%, or Idktf how much more equity above rand. I am or I have been visited by a wolf (since I am not the JOAT and I wasn't targeted N1 because it's robyn), period. So it is exactly RAND. So Ender has strictly NOTHING against me mechanically. NOTHING.
Lettuce think about his second (still unseen) peek. it's even worse, since that guy could have been visited by Visor. So a red peek means even less since he has actually more chance (50% more, 3 out of 5) to be a villa.
But Ender still outs its misleading results, him as a PR and people are assuming I am a wolf lol. And people are assuming this is good play from villa!Ender.
disgusting. any villa should reconsider tbh.
Hf
this argument doesn't really work given that the mech/numbers was already explained to you
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:52
Raskolnikov
what's your solve? assume ender is town for it
I really don't know at this point.
I was already annoyed after Wisdom tbh, now if Ender is town I will just have to go and get healed for ptsd.
nutella is prolly one though because they have been pocketing me when I was trying to chop Wisdom, and is now just not even trying to think about the possiblity of me being a villager (and if you read my posts carefully, and I know it's hard to get past my displayed annoyance today, you will see I thought about the fact Ender could be villa, which she has not deigned to think about regarding my slot today).
past that idk lol too many things to think about and I actually don't want to rn;
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 19:53
this argument doesn't really work given that the mech/numbers was already explained to you
wat?
I really don't know at this point.
I was already annoyed after Wisdom tbh, now if Ender is town I will just have to go and get healed for ptsd.
nutella is prolly one though because they have been pocketing me when I was trying to chop Wisdom, and is now just not even trying to think about the possiblity of me being a villager (and if you read my posts carefully, and I know it's hard to get past my displayed annoyance today, you will see I thought about the fact Ender could be villa, which she has not deigned to think about regarding my slot today).
past that idk lol too many things to think about and I actually don't want to rn;
I understand where you're coming from on Nutella but I think her thought process for other stuff has been her village game? And I'm not sure if I read her ISO and came out with the same conclusions as you, I'd be able to do anything other than just die
Raskolnikov
03-28-2023, 20:00
I understand where you're coming from on Nutella but I think her thought process for other stuff has been her village game? And I'm not sure if I read her ISO and came out with the same conclusions as you, I'd be able to do anything other than just die
She specifically thanked two posts from me when I was explaining how Wisdom was never a villager (lol). but anyway. I am taking a break because I don't think me itt rn will make it enjoyable so:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/90/01/2190017f188acb567a8c091ec0f5d418.gif
Have the scene friendos
She specifically thanked two posts from me when I was explaining how Wisdom was never a villager (lol). but anyway. I am taking a break because I don't think me itt rn will make it enjoyable so:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/90/01/2190017f188acb567a8c091ec0f5d418.gif
Have the scene friendos
was just hoping to get your thoughts before you go, so take care
wat?
if he has two motion results, today is the best time to reveal and not when a deep wolf has a chance to CC at MYLO
keeping one result hidden until later is just good play
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