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I'm literally sobbing at my desk because of what you said to me but ok.
Let's both go eat something and calm down
never my intention to make you sob
you've been telling me I'm not acting like a villager for days and I've been trying to see past it but I just can't anymore. Then when I start to suspect you, you immediately tell me how im not doing enough so i have to be a wolf
nebjiamn
03-31-2023, 00:41
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Wait yeah I actually thought Vulgard's reaction to rask was good when I thought rask was a hit and didn't think they were w/w for a while, at some point I made the change to thinking they were w/w and I can't remember my thought process there
But I wolfread vulgard for like half a day phase before the rask thing even happened so it was originally an independent read/paired with cape at least
The main problem is he doesn't fit with lapras or syn or you or probably boq so it feels very unlikely he's a wolf at all anymore unless I've made a very wrong association.
Wait yeah I actually thought Vulgard's reaction to rask was good when I thought rask was a hit and didn't think they were w/w for a while, at some point I made the change to thinking they were w/w and I can't remember my thought process there
But I wolfread vulgard for like half a day phase before the rask thing even happened so it was originally an independent read/paired with cape at least
The main problem is he doesn't fit with lapras or syn or you or probably boq so it feels very unlikely he's a wolf at all anymore unless I've made a very wrong association.
i agree he's not with lapras
I dont think he's with boq
im not sure about syn
Ugh I have no confidence in myself to get it right even if I assume lapras is a lock (which I guess I'm not or I'd just vote him today and take the L if he's not)
vote: sleep
kinda want to give everyone a chance to check in though in case they want to say something (i've already completely destroyed the mylo silence barrier so go for it lol)
Seeing how I think 2 villagers are yelling at each other, especially dya, I think Lapras is just a lock wolf
Sighs
That's literally just a read just based on what has just gone on today
VERY CONFIDENT: Lapras/Vulgard/Boquise contain at least 2 wolves if not just being the team
it's lapras/dya/boq or syn/dya/boq, gg, thanks for removing any consideration i had of non-dya-wolf worlds
stop making me think you/lapras are w/w if you are town
thanks
but nutella is probably not tbh lol
but nutella is probably not tbh lol
wolf i mean
I'm cooling down. Really sorry that got so out of hand. I've never intended to be condescending or overly demanding of you or anyone I'm just trying to justify my perspective on all possible worlds, and how you have treated my slot is something I can readily find wolf motive for and I don't mean it personally at all. I don't know why I can't control my emotions in a chill game but we are losing and it has become more and more frustrating from my position and what does make me think you're town is that I see that coming out in you as well.
Seeing how I think 2 villagers are yelling at each other, especially dya, I think Lapras is just a lock wolf
Sighs
What if we just voted him
Is that what you want bc it's you/cape/syn or something or should we just do it lol
you/vulgard/syn*
or something idk
VERY CONFIDENT: Lapras/Vulgard/Boquise contain at least 2 wolves if not just being the team
okay i can see this
you/vulgard/syn*
or something idk
or achro :wowee:
I don't actually know if I can be convinced on vulgard/lapras being w/w Cape90
I should reread that early stuff but how I remember it would be weird if theyre paired
or achro :wowee:
achro's gonna be the nk
(because I'm submitting the order)
someone please say something
i'm getting self-conscious about that last post being the last reply for hours lmao
I don't actually know if I can be convinced on vulgard/lapras being w/w Cape90
why are they unaligned?
assume I have the memory of a goldfish
(I have the memory of a goldfish)
did you know goldfish actually have decent memories
What if we just voted him
Is that what you want bc it's you/cape/syn or something or should we just do it lol
I am not mafia. I have seen your bring up Syn as a mafia candidate and I don't really vibe with that but would have to look back and see ur reasons why.
I don't actually know if I can be convinced on vulgard/lapras being w/w Cape90
i would have to reread that if ur having doubts about that. Me having a perfect world would make my eyes roll though but it would probably be a good ol smack in the face of my self-doubts.
"what can you do cape to make me not convinced ur mafia cape"
I don't know
If we actually flipped the hecking people I cased, that would probably would have helped
So my most important note here is dya/nut are my top two town and I see they are going at it back and forth. This is a bit of a problem lol
I feel like I am super dead so I want time to talk to people today please.
I am a clown
Anywho, I have a solve in mind but idk if it is a smart move to out it rn. My theory from yesterday has been baking
Dya is my strongest town read alive and I will fight to the death for that read
nutella dyachei hi you both town read me and I think you are both town. Are you willing to listen or should I do something stupid today since I am a corpse tomorrow.
Also the way absolutely no one is even attempting to scum read me with any intent makes me think my world view is largely right and they want me dead at lylo and for people to go 'well achro was tred by everyone now let's ignore his reads and snap vote nyt/dya'
I am THINKING
Also the way absolutely no one is even attempting to scum read me with any intent makes me think my world view is largely right and they want me dead at lylo and for people to go 'well achro was tred by everyone now let's ignore his reads and snap vote nyt/dya'
I am THINKING
hello it's me
hello it's me
Do not think I won't vote you today you can ask people I ain't right in the head.
Do not think I won't vote you today you can ask people I ain't right in the head.
if you do, can you do it while roleplaying?
if you do, can you do it while roleplaying?
Abso-fucking-lutely I can
What's your current solve
Abso-fucking-lutely I can
What's your current solve
three names I will RNG tomorrow
three names I will RNG tomorrow
Syn if you are wolf I still appreciate that you are passing the vibe check of the game for being chill.
open wolfing at this stage is likable.
I am a likable guy (please do not fact-check this with others)
I am a likable guy (please do not fact-check this with others)
Well clearly this is just scum theatre between us so it's fine. I secretly hate you in our wolf chat.
VOTE TALLY EOD
raskolnikov 5 vulgard enderwiggin boquise achro nutella
lapras 3 raskolnikov Cape90 syn
vulgard 1 lapras
Majority is in effect. With 10 players remaining the magic number is 6. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.
Night is at 7pm eastern on 3/29
Explain how im wolf lol
Arent i just throwing going to bed with a vote not on rask?
nutella your teams you have me with are ones with syn, voting me, and ppl voting rask instead of bussing whilst i vote a vanity wagon. Whats the wolf plan?
Im town here and imo was ok dying but know rask/me were just set up anyway
Ill be the cross tomorrow and will try n read up
But vote: sleep
Abso-fucking-lutely I can
What's your current solve
(the real answer is that I don't have one)
(this is me open wolfing)
Btw im only awake cuz changing baby going back down now
Explain how im wolf lol
Arent i just throwing going to bed with a vote not on rask?
nutella your teams you have me with are ones with syn, voting me, and ppl voting rask instead of bussing whilst i vote a vanity wagon. Whats the wolf plan?
Im town here and imo was ok dying but know rask/me were just set up anyway
Ill be the cross tomorrow and will try n read up
But vote: sleep
rask was set up? what?
Damn, Ender the wolf motion detector doesn't play fr fr
rask was set up? what?
I dong think wolves gaf about me/rask yesterday cuz we have bkth been set up to be chain lunched
Ender helped, rasks reply helped, and my relative inaction helped. But ultimately we were the two mls needed for wolces to win
I dong think wolves gaf about me/rask yesterday cuz we have bkth been set up to be chain lunched
Ender helped, rasks reply helped, and my relative inaction helped. But ultimately we were the two mls needed for wolces to win
what would your reaction be if I told you 3 of syn/boq/cape/vul was the team
VOTE TALLY
Sleep 4 syn dyachei nutella lapras
Majority is in effect. With 8 players remaining the magic number is 5. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.
Night is at 7pm eastern on 4/1
lapras please unvote I don't want day to end early.
if someone hammers sleep please lynch them tomorrow ty
what would your reaction be if I told you 3 of syn/boq/cape/vul was the team
unvote
Isnt that most the players left lol
Byt i dont really tr anyone except dya/nut aorn after that argument
So sure
I really need to sleep tho
unvote
Isnt that most the players left lol
Byt i dont really tr anyone except dya/nut aorn after that argument
So sure
Interesting. We both have the same top two reads.
Interesting in a good way.
hm. hm hm hm.
unvote
Isnt that most the players left lol
Byt i dont really tr anyone except dya/nut aorn after that argument
So sure
Interesting. We both have the same top two reads.
Interesting in a good way.
hm. hm hm hm.
*squints*
*squints*
It took 4 days but you finally read a post of mine. Best day ever.
haha achro is still trying to save lapras
(in all seriousness i still have achro as most town and am fully entertaining his perspective/that 4 person poe he gave)
what would your reaction be if I told you 3 of syn/boq/cape/vul was the team
if lapras really is town this game is SUCH a meme and i have a hard time figuring out a team in here that makes sense but i might also be overthinking it idk
it feels slimy to extoll the towniness of both sides of a violent clash tbh
i will just assume you baited lapras
it feels slimy to extoll the towniness of both sides of a violent clash tbh
i will just assume you baited lapras
I was thinking they were v/v in real time yesterday tbh because their arguments reminded me of my champs game arguments last year when I got heated tbh
Then again lapras didn't really say anything much so maybe he is just copying my homework.
cape/vulgard is a pair ive seen for a while
but with boq feels weird
with syn also feels weird
but wolves can do weird things and push partners in esoteric ways to get cred and get the flips tied to villagers and such, their d1-2 behavior where they wouldnt have assumed they'd get this far without losing a member could be explained by like, boq being a wolf and cape/vul distancing early since he was heavily heavily under fire
or maybe it's just one of cape or vulgard that distanced from boq while syn went more on the defensive
cape/vulgard is a pair ive seen for a while
but with boq feels weird
with syn also feels weird
but wolves can do weird things and push partners in esoteric ways to get cred and get the flips tied to villagers and such, their d1-2 behavior where they wouldnt have assumed they'd get this far without losing a member could be explained by like, boq being a wolf and cape/vul distancing early since he was heavily heavily under fire
or maybe it's just one of cape or vulgard that distanced from boq while syn went more on the defensive
weh now that ive written this out i think achro is right
on the one hand lapras being v would make me feel less bad for misvoting yesterday but on the other hand it makes my entire game feel like a major clownfest
yeah maybe it's not terrible at this point to openly acknowledge achro is prob gonna be the nk and we might as well use the extra time to solve while his voice is still with us lol
the gears are turning, the thrill of the hunt is on, it's time to invoke the #TripleLyloComeback energy
it's actually REALLY interesting what the team decided to do d2 in a boq/cape/vulgard world.
i would like to study you fellas under a microscope tbh
the gears are turning, the thrill of the hunt is on, it's time to invoke the #TripleLyloComeback energy
rocky montage
yeah maybe it's not terrible at this point to openly acknowledge achro is prob gonna be the nk and we might as well use the extra time to solve while his voice is still with us lol
I will miss you all.
Nut, what is your 'gun to my head' dya solve vs dya is town solve. Curious how much equity shifts from the partners.
I will miss you all.
Nut, what is your 'gun to my head' dya solve vs dya is town solve. Curious how much equity shifts from the partners.
i typed a thing out and decided im just gonna roll with dya town for now bc i had been pairing them w/ cape but at this point think its more likely cape was going for a pocket on them, idk it's been a bit over the top either way
anyway i think im at boq/cape/+1
tbc i was already gonna roll with them town from the thing today + your strong read
but realizing i had boq/cape in common in a few solves gave me additional insight
tbc i was already gonna roll with them town from the thing today + your strong read
but realizing i had boq/cape in common in a few solves gave me additional insight
Boq/Cape/Lapras
It's happening.
why are some of my posts getting the emoji icons in the headers lol am i accidentally clicking them in the advanced editor (kinda similar thing happens on syndicate ig)
Boq/Cape/Lapras
It's happening.
perhaps
perhaps
am I allowed to link images like an alignment chart here I didn't like read the rules very well
Boq/Cape/Lapras
It's happening.
this solve would be embarrassing for me
The problem with that particular solve though is I don't think Cape/Boq are aligned based off how Cape treated Boq in their casing.
But uh if I am right about nut/dya then I think my definition I have made a pairing error somewhere here.
I don't even have 2 other names being valid with Vul right now which is wild considering how little I have liked his play this game.
wtf lol
I think almost every valid team has Lapras on it.
Because I only have Lapras unpaired with Nut and Vul, who themselves don't have any valid teams on my chart.
So like, yeah I guess its always Lapras.
But uh if I am right about nut/dya then I think my definition I have made a pairing error somewhere here.
I don't even have 2 other names being valid with Vul right now which is wild considering how little I have liked his play this game.
wtf lol
I think almost every valid team has Lapras on it.
Because I only have Lapras unpaired with Nut and Vul, who themselves don't have any valid teams on my chart.
So like, yeah I guess its always Lapras.
https://media4.giphy.com/media/YO7P8VC7nlQlO/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47yotowjspdjcfssknmtpe1oyqj7134dxjw4uhvdot&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
Syn do you have it as like Nut/Vul/? or something
the goblin in my head is whispering things to me
it's probably fine though
for a moment there i considered a achro/nutella w/w world
achro/nutella/cape
haha just kidding
unless...?
At long last. Satisfaction.
Anyway let's see.
Town tell is that everyone ignored me early except my partners Nut who prodded me and Cape who early TR'd me.
Fits pretty well except for my role card but I like the spunk.
I think almost every valid team has Lapras on it.
Because I only have Lapras unpaired with Nut and Vul, who themselves don't have any valid teams on my chart.
So like, yeah I guess its always Lapras.
List it all out
Why cant it be cape-syn-vul?
nutella sod yesterday you had me near the top
What happened
Explain how im wolf lol
Arent i just throwing going to bed with a vote not on rask?
nutella your teams you have me with are ones with syn, voting me, and ppl voting rask instead of bussing whilst i vote a vanity wagon. Whats the wolf plan?
Im town here and imo was ok dying but know rask/me were just set up anyway
Ill be the cross tomorrow and will try n read up
But vote: sleep
This being ignored after the epic ate and inevitable feeling of doom y'all townies will feel is bad
List it all out
Why cant it be cape-syn-vul?
Cape/Vul is valid
I have Syn unaligned with both Vul and Cape based off how Syn talked to dead townies vs how he talked to cape/vul, it's a non-difference check which I have been pretty good about being right on in the past.
Cape/Vul is valid
I have Syn unaligned with both Vul and Cape based off how Syn talked to dead townies vs how he talked to cape/vul, it's a non-difference check which I have been pretty good about being right on in the past.
i haven't really talked much with or about cape
i haven't really talked much with or about cape
I ISO'd you yesterday and mentioned when I unpaired you two somewhere in there.
Cape/Vul is valid
I have Syn unaligned with both Vul and Cape based off how Syn talked to dead townies vs how he talked to cape/vul, it's a non-difference check which I have been pretty good about being right on in the past.
Why not boq in that group?
If you have all this just write it out
Why not boq in that group?
If you have all this just write it out
Boq I have unaligned with both cape and vul, along with nut
Cape I have unaligned with boq, nut, syn
Dya I have unaligned with vul and nut
Lapras I have unaligned with nut and vul
Nut I have unaligned with everyone but Vul
Syn I have unaligned with vul/cape
Vul I have unaligned with everyone BUT cape/nut
Nut I have unaligned with everyone but Vul
Syn I have unaligned with vul/cape
:Zzzz:
Boq I have unaligned with both cape and vul, along with nut
Cape I have unaligned with boq, nut, syn
Dya I have unaligned with vul and nut
Lapras I have unaligned with nut and vul
Nut I have unaligned with everyone but Vul
Syn I have unaligned with vul/cape
Vul I have unaligned with everyone BUT cape/nut
Ty
Btw when it comes to vote i bagst first vote BUT bare in mind i sleep from SOD for 6 hours or so
Voting me if your town is throwing as the game will end
Ty
Btw when it comes to vote i bagst first vote BUT bare in mind i sleep from SOD for 6 hours or so
Voting me if your town is throwing as the game will end
what is this supposed to mean
what is this supposed to mean
When its lylo
Let me vote first
But you will have to wait a while whilst i sleep because im a european and day starts when im asleep. So yoh will have to wait
Dont rush to vote though, because im tlwn and it likely ends the game given #tunnels
i'm not sure it's a good idea to solve today
i thought to just vote sleep and go to night so wolves can provide an informative nk
i'm not sure it's a good idea to solve today
i thought to just vote sleep and go to night so wolves can provide an informative nk
i have some opinions but i'd rather see the nk before solidifying them
i don't think i ever get nightkilled this game but if i do then uh
i guess i should give a legacy? honestly the thought of being the next nk didn't even cross my mind
i'm not sure it's a good idea to solve today
i don't think i ever get nightkilled this game but if i do then uh
i guess i should give a legacy? honestly the thought of being the next nk didn't even cross my mind
the duality of man
the duality of man
least flip-floppy thought process
so we are solving today? Alright, I will write up my stuff after work
Achro and Nutella trying to force pair me with Cape is screwing with my solve theory and it is annoying
Interesting. We both have the same top two reads.
Interesting in a good way.
hm. hm hm hm.
the old mafia warriors of legends have told me that "interesting" is a wolf tell tbh
This being ignored after the epic ate and inevitable feeling of doom y'all townies will feel is bad
This is mildly townie reaction tbh
Why not boq in that group?
If you have all this just write it out
"Why not Boq" feels like the catchphrase of this game
I am basically Ike in South Park
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6jZHhgBJGY
so we are solving today? Alright, I will write up my stuff after work
well if everyone else is doing that then i guess i might as well present my takes
i think nutella is the most obvious villager today
i think her argument with dya isn't v/v though, i still think dya's a wolf and i think this arguing business is in their wolfrange
i think dya is just salty they're being sussed and is trying to make nutella viable tomorrow but that shouldn't be a thing
i didn't really want to say this because now they might kill nutella but that's my primary takeaway from this day phase so far
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the player i'm most confident is a wolf is not lapras, actually, but it's dya; other than what i said about dya yesterday, i think rask flipping v is an even worse look for them because it means that they were already setting up a side push ahead of rask flipping; this also happened on day 2 when wisdom was basically always dying, dya was trying to push me but there was no chance they would get me over and they didn't really seem to care to get me over, it was just a side push as a setup, i think a villager genuinely caring about their read here would actually try to get me killed instead of just pushing me but not really swaying anyone
they didn't even vote yesterday which i also think is nagl, it's unaligning with lapras to some extent because they would want to stack votes on rask if they were w/w in order to save lapras but i think the lack of a vote is wolfy either way and i can even see it still being w/w with lapras, it's possible wolves figured lapras wouldn't have died there i suppose or dya was just afk
i guess if dya could just be afk then it's nai but i do feel like they'd at least want to place a vote and have an opinion with said vote as a villa there whereas wolves likely wrote off that day as "ok we're killing rask" taking advantage of the md so that's why i think the lack of a vote is wolf-leaning regardless of anything
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lapras does also feel like a wolf by gamestate to me
i have no further thoughts about him
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boq/achro/syn/cape are the remaining players
i don't think achro/boq are together
i also don't think cape/boq are together, i think it's far more likely that cape's boq case on day 2 was a push on a villager than a bus
syn could be with virtually anyone and he's been pushing extremely wolfsided worldviews fmpov
i'm really struggling to visualize a team that doesn't contain at least one of dya and lapras, but if i do this thought exercise, then achro/syn/cape is the only feasible one i can think of
except achro/cape interactions are weirdly amicable for wolf partners, too obvious almost
i feel like if two of achro/syn/cape are wolves then we probably lose
gun-to-head i'd say the team is dya/lapras/syn but that doesn't feel exactly correct and it also feels like i'm just aiming for the most "obvious" targets rather than the actually correct targets
so i do think there's at least one wolf in achro/syn/cape and possibly two
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achro is ?probably? not with lapras? i think that post he wrote about lapras's pov @ boq is unlikely to have been written about a wolf partner
i also think that lapras randomly calling achro a wolf d1 would be pretty weird and random distancing though maybe i'm writing that off too easily
i think all three of them could be with dya unless i'm missing something
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i'm highest-confidence on dya being a wolf as a result of individual things they've done i've found wolfy + the fact i can't unpair them with anyone except nutella
lapras i can unpair with achro and nutella, i don't think nutella handles lapras the way she did last eod if they're partners
syn voting cape and then lapras there could actually be distancing, lapras wasn't dying at the point when syn placed that vote on him
i can't unpair anyone with syn, i had an unpair between him and ender but ender's dead now so that doesn't matter anymore
cape and achro both aren't with boq imo, boq could be with dya and with lapras though i'm pretty sure
achro also isn't with lapras imo and he ?probably? isn't with cape so the only teams that contain him are like achro/dya/syn or achro/dya/boq or achro/syn/boq but the boq pairing is also questionable to me because achro was helping me push boq on day 2 (i guess he could have been bussing there?)
i'm not even considering nutella worlds because i think she's blatantly a villager and if she's a wolf here she leveled up her game tremendously which i'm not going to catch at this moment
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i'm ending up with something like dya>syn>lapras>boq>cape>achro in terms of team compatibility
if achro is a wolf he either bussed or actively unaligned at some point
dya/syn/lapras seems too easy so it's probably a mixture of the two
so i'd say two in dya/syn/lapras and one in boq/cape/achro
if my reads are bad it's 2-3 in boq/cape/achro
lapras not being w would be wild but this game has gone horribly so i wouldn't even be that surprised if that was the case and i've simply had awful reads most of the game
lmk what you think
though of course thinking about this now means wolves will make different nk choices which is the drawback
Vul what was the origin point of your suspicion on dya? Does it boil down to the fact they pushed you? The origin I mean I am not saying that's the only thing you said above.
Vul what was the origin point of your suspicion on dya? Does it boil down to the fact they pushed you? The origin I mean I am not saying that's the only thing you said above.
at first i thought they weren't really playing the game, i've found that increasingly wolfy as the game progressed, then i looked back on their push on me in hindsight and took the context into consideration and there you have it
at first i thought they weren't really playing the game, i've found that increasingly wolfy as the game progressed, then i looked back on their push on me in hindsight and took the context into consideration and there you have it
Alright. And to be clear their repeated notes of wanting to play a relaxed game come off as insincere to you?
i still think vulgard is a wolf
but I think we always go cape first because i don't have a team without cape in it
lapras not being w would be wild but this game has gone horribly so i wouldn't even be that surprised if that was the case and i've simply had awful reads most of the game
lmk what you think
though of course thinking about this now means wolves will make different nk choices which is the drawback
"i've simply had awful reads most of the game"
continues to push me as a wolf
:thinking:
like if you think all your reads this game have sucked, why are you sticking with the read you had on me from nearly the beginning of the game
Alright. And to be clear their repeated notes of wanting to play a relaxed game come off as insincere to you?
not really, i thought that was understandable
however i do think a villager playing a relaxed game would still play differently
"i've simply had awful reads most of the game"
continues to push me as a wolf
:thinking:
i said it was POSSIBLE that i had awful reads and i'm trying to consider a world where that's the case
yet here you're phrasing it as if i said my reads are definitely awful
it's not something i'm sure of
i think it's POSSIBLE
how can i ever consider you a villager when you keep doing this thing to my posts where you claim that i said something different from what i actually said and you post conclusions based on that misframing
like if you think all your reads this game have sucked, why are you sticking with the read you had on me from nearly the beginning of the game
i literally just explained how at the beginning of the game i didn't wolfread you at all and it has simply developed over the course of the game from looking at your actions in hindsight and at how the game progressed
i still think vulgard is a wolf
but I think we always go cape first because i don't have a team without cape in it
can you elaborate upon that?
can you elaborate upon that?
yes
I think nutella's argument with me comes from her as a villager
I think boq is a villager (i've talked about this previously)
I think achro is a villager
i can see a world without you in it even though I think you're a wolf because I dont think you're with lapras
However, cape can be with almost anyone and as the game has gone on, he's been less involved
i said this earlier:
"syn voting cape and then lapras there could actually be distancing, lapras wasn't dying at the point when syn placed that vote on him"
what do you think about this
i genuinely think there's a chance this was w/w/w if you're town
i said this earlier:
"syn voting cape and then lapras there could actually be distancing, lapras wasn't dying at the point when syn placed that vote on him"
what do you think about this
i genuinely think there's a chance this was w/w/w if you're town
sure I think it's possible I just don't know how likely
Ok it looks like dya and nut are on the same page for now. I can die content.
Although if the team is nut/dya I will be impressed tbh. The ultimate betrayal.
Will say lapras wanting to go first tomorrow is interesting. That vote should be telling.
Will say lapras wanting to go first tomorrow is interesting. That vote should be telling.
who wants lapras first?
who wants lapras first?
I know nothing about vote orders I have only seen them briefly in champs. But lapras volunteered. Is that how it usually works?
nebjiamn
03-31-2023, 17:19
Vote Tally
Sleep 3 dyachei nutella lapras
Maj is 5, if maj is reached let me or sunbae know
Lapras yes i do think you voting first is a good idea
I know nothing about vote orders I have only seen them briefly in champs. But lapras volunteered. Is that how it usually works?
he's basically the top suspect which is the standard
actually idk
maybe boq is now lol
dyachei do you have specific thoughts on lapras and/or syn rn? vulgard's team theory and your focus on cape has me worried again
dyachei do you have specific thoughts on lapras and/or syn rn? vulgard's team theory and your focus on cape has me worried again
i think syn could be a wolf but i think that his early play felt a lot like his last org game
lapras I think is falling victim to the whole being a new parent thing but I might be biased there
how do you do fellow wolves
i like how every lapras read inevitably circles back around to being a dad
let's just wolf-read the baby and be done with it
AtE? not actively making coherent reads? pretty wolfy imo :/
Me trying to muster wim and write down my stuff:
https://i.imgur.com/m9bpeHH.gif
Me trying to muster wim and write down my stuff:
https://i.imgur.com/m9bpeHH.gif
relatable but for my real life adult job :wall:
Idk game is taking energy and i feel like a walking misyeet after reading the thread
I feel like very few actually interact with my solvy post and have me just permanently put in a nowhere zone, so i get demotivated and decided to peel off my nails instead.
Anyhow, how scum + some town members have acted around me before. So I guess it is just a thing. Lets see if this post garners responds now when I have written weirdness tbh
Here is some hype music to motivate me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzIkVFse7fg
My theory yesterday was that if rask was v, then certain players' behavious was sus. I disliked how Nutella and iirc Achro and Cape kept floating my name, and Nutella also wrote that I would be likely wolf if Rask flipped v. It reminded me how Wisdom theorised that I and them were planned to be chainsawed into yeets.
And today Cape, Nutella, Achro, and Vulgard have all brought up how I am basically a wolf with everyone. The same goes with Lapras, which actually makes me town read him based on us having the same thread position. It is clear to me that wolves have set up since D1 at least my misyeet.
As for the sus of me. It is not many times you peeps who sus me actually interact with my posts. It is all "Boq is paired with x, y, z" and the reasoning is not really developed. Like how Nut and Achro try to force me into a Syn team when that doesnt make any sense from my play. Cape pushed my actual posts D1 but now when I have got my gears moving he has hardly reacted to any of 'em. I feel like D1 and D2 were an attempt to bury me. Like, Cape bringing up meta to compare me to this game, but isn't really processing the new posts I am making. I believe this sort of pushing establish two things: 1) It creates a thread truth that I am actually not doing anything, I have no reads, I am saying nothing etc. 2) it makes wolves not having to actually interact with me because they now know I have got into gear and will be a difficult push.
maybe thats why lapras is pushed more now because he is less active? Easier target.
Achro's scum read of me is not based on anything I have done, but what Lapras has done. It is a scum read per association aside from pushing me yesterday because I forgot him and Lapras for a second, which is ridiculous and having jury'd his championship games I know that when he pushes someone as town, he pushes with way more details and quality in his reads. He also pushes much stronger. Now it is like "yeh boq can be scum, or lapras, idk". Thats nagl
So, given that I town read Lapras (and Dya), I feel like the game state is probably wrong, which puts my suspicion directly at Achro. I did not want to share this read because it could affect the NK (if I am wrong) but I want to avoid any bullshit tomorrow so it is better to divulge this read today.
I believe there is a wolf between Achro, Vulgard, Nutella, Cape, and Syn. Which is a too high of a number.
However I do not think Syn is a wolf with Achro, since Syn is basically the only other player today who has shaded Achro consistently. So here is a difference check.
If Achro is town, then I could definitely see Syn being a wolf, given his responses to me and how he pushed and explained his Wisdom read. The fact that Vulgard is saying that Nutella is always town is how I expect wolves to be playing rn. They only need 1 misyeet left, and if I am right on Lapras town, then that's that. And I guess Achro will be around to help doing that. But given that he feels like the source of inspiration to mine and Lapras' pushes, I find it unlikely.
I am sus on how Nutella and Cape is pushing a game state where I am always wolf. I am not sure if two wolves would be so shamelessly doing that though. The last time Cape really interacted with me was when I said he was pushing me because he -wants- me to be a wolf more than anything else and he agreed, which I felt could be open wolfing. I dont remember when Nutella interacted with one of my solve posts the last time. And it feels like her wolf read on me is more about what Syn has done regarding my slot than my own play. Which is convenient. Stuff like that is hard to defend against so thats a good wolf strat tbh
The predicament is that I have town read both Cape and Nutella. If both of them are town I am left with like... Achro/Vulgard/??? Syn does not work. Lapras does not work at all. And I am town reading Dya pretty strongly (watch it be Achro/Vulgard/Dya and I am a joke). Tho Dya/Vulgard is probably unlikely???
So at least 1 of Cape/Nutella must be scum.
In F7s, ime, it is important to catch all wolves in one fell swoop given how wolves play around it.
I can see a team composition of Achro/Vulgard/Cape/Nutella, or Vulgard/Cape/Nutella/Syn.
However, given how Nutella is also trying to force in a push on Syn it is slightly unlikely (even tho Syn seems to be taking the third wheel with me and Lapras being top priorities).
But to make it easier for my brain, I will say that Nutella/Syn is unlikely given the game state.
So Vulgard/Cape/Nutella
or, Vulgard/Cape/Syn,
Game is slightly harder if Achro wolf considering I am unable to eliminate a fourth person from the pairings.
Achro/Vulgard/Cape/Nutella...
....
Either way Vulgard/Cape are my surest bet.
Cape Vulgard
you two will actually have to read my posts and engage with me because come tomorrow I will go scorch earth unless you can town it up. I have written lots of stuff, I have declared reads, I have made pushes. Read them. Also Vulgard you better update your misinformation on my Rask push. Only way I am wrong on 1 of you is if I am wrong for unpairing Syn/Nutella.
I also like the idea of Achro wolf because it makes so much sense given the game state here and the peeps who has got the majority of the pushes. And also I would be a hero if so tbqh
People in general will need to talk TO me instead of ABOUT me or AROUND me. I am not going to be an easy F7 misyeet. Wolves should've misyeeted me in early game because I am a late game player and been in enough lylos to see through bs. I am a lylo warrior tbqfh!
so yeh, I will inject steroids through hype music for the next day hmpf
THE BOQ HAS AWAKENED TBQFH
At long last. Satisfaction.
Were you referring a Rolling Stones song for funsies or what is satisfying?
I just like people noticing me.
Anyway I am dead tired but what I will say is it's really bewildering that you think I have a scum read on you due to lapras when I originally voted you eod1, along with 3 dead townies and cape, because I found your attitude towards eod and being content to vanity vote go be a bit what I might like to call 'not cool'
I can post more robustly later though. But that point was like huh. I know you forget me easily but I almost killed you day 1 geesh at least remember that.
Also the way absolutely no one is even attempting to scum read me with any intent makes me think my world view is largely right and they want me dead at lylo and for people to go 'well achro was tred by everyone now let's ignore his reads and snap vote nyt/dya'
I am THINKING
'sup
Boquise I have read and considering your pov do not fear tbh
'sup
You posting that right after makes me think you literally just cased me so that this wouldn't be confirmed LMAO
I want to believe I have you shook tbh
But seriously I am tired I will look over everything you said later. Maybe you make the sense broadly.
I just like people noticing me.
Anyway I am dead tired but what I will say is it's really bewildering that you think I have a scum read on you due to lapras when I originally voted you eod1, along with 3 dead townies and cape, because I found your attitude towards eod and being content to vanity vote go be a bit what I might like to call 'not cool'
I can post more robustly later though. But that point was like huh. I know you forget me easily but I almost killed you day 1 geesh at least remember that.
I remember that, but your read back then was pretty whatever too. Cape did the big work.
Please elaborate robustly why being on a vanity wagon, aka voting the wagon you actually believe contains a wolf than voting someone who you arent really sure is a wolf and someone you are pretty sure isnt a wolf, is "not cool". Do you perhaps like sheep?
Either way, I am making a compilation post of the greatest hits of today to make my point crystal clear tbh
You posting that right after makes me think you literally just cased me so that this wouldn't be confirmed LMAO
I want to believe I have you shook tbh
i am making a big post going backwards showing how everyone's been talking about me today. Something that can be easily proven by me reacting to your satisfaction post.
How am I shaken by you? Your main argument is that I am wolf because Lapras posted weirdly. There is zero substance with you.
i am making a big post going backwards showing how everyone's been talking about me today. Something that can be easily proven by me reacting to your satisfaction post.
How am I shaken by you? Your main argument is that I am wolf because Lapras posted weirdly. There is zero substance with you.
I find the most tragic of arguments for a wolf is when I just figure out the team connections and don't need 20 paragraphs dissecting their play. All I need is to prove that they are the missing puzzle piece.
Its why it was important for me to speak my mind about nut/dya today because I thought them being angry at each other was a lose condition for town in my current world view.
Zero substance huh. Alright. I will iso you tomorrow morning. Let's see if you keep that same energy by challenging achro for lack of substance in a chill game.
The problem with that particular solve though is I don't think Cape/Boq are aligned based off how Cape treated Boq in their casing.
i don't think achro/boq are together
i also don't think cape/boq are together, i think it's far more likely that cape's boq case on day 2 was a push on a villager than a bus
cape and achro both aren't with boq imo, boq could be with dya and with lapras though i'm pretty sure
achro also isn't with lapras imo and he ?probably? isn't with cape so the only teams that contain him are like achro/dya/syn or achro/dya/boq or achro/syn/boq but the boq pairing is also questionable to me because achro was helping me push boq on day 2 (i guess he could have been bussing there?)
actually idk
maybe boq is now lol
cape/vulgard is a pair ive seen for a while
but with boq feels weird
but wolves can do weird things and push partners in esoteric ways to get cred and get the flips tied to villagers and such, their d1-2 behavior where they wouldnt have assumed they'd get this far without losing a member could be explained by like, boq being a wolf and cape/vul distancing early since he was heavily heavily under fire
or maybe it's just one of cape or vulgard that distanced from boq while syn went more on the defensive
anyway i think im at boq/cape/+1
tbc i was already gonna roll with them town from the thing today + your strong read
but realizing i had boq/cape in common in a few solves gave me additional insight
Boq/Cape/Lapras
It's happening.
it's lapras/dya/boq or syn/dya/boq, gg, thanks for removing any consideration i had of non-dya-wolf worlds
before you started posting i literally almost told syn that i thought it was either lapras/syn/boq or lapras/achro/cape. neither including you. maybe work on solving whether it's one of those if you're town
VERY CONFIDENT: Lapras/Vulgard/Boquise contain at least 2 wolves if not just being the team
The main problem is he doesn't fit with lapras or syn or you or probably boq so it feels very unlikely he's a wolf at all anymore unless I've made a very wrong association.
WOW LOOK AT THESE QUALITY REASONS BOQ IS WOLF I AM FLOORED TO THE GROUND TBH Shaking in my boots etc.
This is whole thing is a saga where I am arbitrarily put into several wolf teams. The ONLY times any sort of substance is brought up WHY I am with someone, it is because THAT PLAYER has done something.
Boq is not paired with Cape because Cape did X
Boq is not paired with Cape because Cape did Y
Boq is not paired with Achro because Achro did Z
Boq could be paired with Cape and Vulgard because Cape and Vulgard could have been distancing
Boq could be paired with Syn because Syn did X
Boq could be paired with Lapras because Lapras did Y
(the last two are mainly from yesterday).
Like zero things today is about what I have done. Neither why I could be town, or why I could be wolf. I am just the top suspect because lol. This is selling the story that Cape did on D2 that I was hardly doing anything and Vulgard selling the story that I did not have any reads. I am not 100% sure all of this comes from scum, but it proves that the thread truth has settled.
Are people intimidated to interact with my posts and thoughts? Is it more comfortable to just repeat one-liners and false stuff? No one cared about how Rask and I settled our disagreement and Rask saw my pov and accepted it. Because it does not fit the narrative that I "death tunneled Rask for no reason at all". Two players have really interacted with me through this game and that's Rask and Wisdom. BOTH TOWN. Out of the alive players, Dya is the one who has been reading my solves and encouraged me to go further (like with my Vulgard read), which makes me even more convinced that they are town.
People are basically intimidated of me because I am just so awesome tbqfh. Which reminds me of Cape actually backing down from his read on me because I was bragging and talking up my reads. Which is a super weaksauce reason to town read me (and that has disappeared now in present time) when he had a super meta case on me. It looks to me like when a wolf knows that a town is about to burst into town mode so they back down to make them still a viable target. Well, I won't be going anywhere since I will be around for tomorrow's lylo so draw your swords and pistols for I take no quarter tbh
https://quickbutik.imgix.net/9364E/products/5c967cf2b2bf3.jpeg
^literally me tbh
I find the most tragic of arguments for a wolf is when I just figure out the team connections and don't need 20 paragraphs dissecting their play. All I need is to prove that they are the missing puzzle piece.
Its why it was important for me to speak my mind about nut/dya today because I thought them being angry at each other was a lose condition for town in my current world view.
Zero substance huh. Alright. I will iso you tomorrow morning. Let's see if you keep that same energy by challenging achro for lack of substance in a chill game.
Why would the wolves miss puzzle pieces
Last sentence is a wolf slip. By that phrasing, you have already decided that I am a wolf because you are acting like you will find substance for why I am a wolf, and not substance for why I am town. Given that you see this as a challenge and not an attempt to finally read me properly. Whereas I have debated how you could be both town and scum. Rekt.
I have the spirit of Carolus Rex at my back. Nothing can harm me anymore tbh
GH might be following this game and he is popping the bottles because he is seeing the return of the king in the North tbh
Boquise I have read and considering your pov do not fear tbh
thank you nut
Why would the wolves miss puzzle pieces
Last sentence is a wolf slip. By that phrasing, you have already decided that I am a wolf because you are acting like you will find substance for why I am a wolf, and not substance for why I am town. Given that you see this as a challenge and not an attempt to finally read me properly. Whereas I have debated how you could be both town and scum. Rekt.
I will admit I am acting like that but that's mostly for fun. If I am isoing you I am giving you a fair shake. If I wanted to tunnel you I wouldn't waste my time isoing you.
But you do have town equity.
Plus you've been low wim most of the game so I don't think you've done a lot to departure yourself from others compared to vice versa. But that's what the iso is for.
Also wolves don't miss the puzzle pieces they are the missing piece of the puzzle themselves. Boq why do you have so much energy when I have so little lol
I will admit I am acting like that but that's mostly for fun. If I am isoing you I am giving you a fair shake. If I wanted to tunnel you I wouldn't waste my time isoing you.
But you do have town equity.
Plus you've been low wim most of the game so I don't think you've done a lot to departure yourself from others compared to vice versa. But that's what the iso is for.
oh. Well. Yeah, fun is important. I want a battle with cannons
why do i have town equity though
I have been low wim but low wim =/= scum.
oh. Well. Yeah, fun is important. I want a battle with cannons
why do i have town equity though
I have been low wim but low wim =/= scum.
No but low wim does mean in pairings others are more likely to make you unaligned with them rather than you with them. Dya is low wim, is not unaligned with a lot, but I think they came off very authentic.
You have town equity in cape wolf or vul wolf worlds because of interactions earlier in the game. I think it was mostly from their side but yeah it's still in your favor if one flips wolf.
Also wolves don't miss the puzzle pieces they are the missing piece of the puzzle themselves. Boq why do you have so much energy when I have so little lol
did you forget the part where it took me like 4 hours to muster wim and then i had to put on music to fake motivate myself to actually get into it?
Also this is so typical of this game.
"Boq you are wolfy for doing X"
*Boq answers by doing the opposite of X, doing Y instead*
"Boq you are wolfy for doing Y"
what a meme.
Anyway.
When I get my rails starting and make myself believe I have wim, i eventually trick myself into having energy. Also I am a late game player. I do not want to be the losing misyeet, I have been that too many times and I want to prove to myself and everyone that I can actually improve and that I do have worthwhiles and also correct poe takes. Especially in late games. I also guess I get more motivated when the knife is at my throat.
Btw, this is how S5 wolves won the finale (or well, amongst several things). By forcing town to keep being de-motivated. Had I kept my energy up, I couldve solved the game because I had several correct wolf reads, but was death tunnelled by both wolves and town alike through the whole game until I at lylo finally stopped thinking and just followed the flow, just happy that I was not the misyeet target. BUT NEVER MORE TBH!
No but low wim does mean in pairings others are more likely to make you unaligned with them rather than you with them. Dya is low wim, is not unaligned with a lot, but I think they came off very authentic.
You have town equity in cape wolf or vul wolf worlds because of interactions earlier in the game. I think it was mostly from their side but yeah it's still in your favor if one flips wolf.
So Dya is able to be unpair themselves/look authentic by their own postings but I can't? Why doesn't my Syn push matter? Why doesn't my Vulgard push matter? Why doesn't my Cape town read and later suspicion matter? This is paradoxical because I am accused of low wim but my solving posts are dismissed and forgotten, so how am I supposed to have wim? And then when I get wim anyway I get the weird check
So Dya is able to be unpair themselves/look authentic by their own postings but I can't? Why doesn't my Syn push matter? Why doesn't my Vulgard push matter? Why doesn't my Cape town read and later suspicion matter? This is paradoxical because I am accused of low wim but my solving posts are dismissed and forgotten, so how am I supposed to have wim? And then when I get wim anyway I get the weird check
I mean this is rich coming from someone who forgot I was in the game yesterday. Maybe it's a chill game so I haven't backrest very much and sm giving my general impressions of things. I think dya I happened to catch in real time something that made me go 'oh wait' and make me want to tug on the string.
Like I have done you no material harm before isoing you. Sure I tried to stab you day 1 but you deserved it and I wanted to resolve the eod1 day 2 but in terms of the last couple of days I have noted several times there are worlds where you are town.
Like I bet if you isoed me you would realize quickly your zero substance take is very bad and I am a very awesome poster. Even as wolf you would go 'wow achro put in so much work I have to give him credit'
Everything matters but I have to put everyone on ignore to iso just you and God it is a pain lol.
I mean this is rich coming from someone who forgot I was in the game yesterday. Maybe it's a chill game so I haven't backrest very much and sm giving my general impressions of things. I think dya I happened to catch in real time something that made me go 'oh wait' and make me want to tug on the string.
Like I have done you no material harm before isoing you. Sure I tried to stab you day 1 but you deserved it and I wanted to resolve the eod1 day 2 but in terms of the last couple of days I have noted several times there are worlds where you are town.
Like I bet if you isoed me you would realize quickly your zero substance take is very bad and I am a very awesome poster. Even as wolf you would go 'wow achro put in so much work I have to give him credit'
Everything matters but I have to put everyone on ignore to iso just you and God it is a pain lol.
omfg i forgot you were in the game for 1 second and it was just when I wrote a read list, and I corrected it myself. You are gigantifying something super small. How is this even connected to what I said in the post you are quoting btw? I can't see the connection, just that you want to needle with that again
"I have done you no material harm"
*literally 10 min ago*
"It was I, Boq! I was the one who almost got you killed on D1! How dare you forget the Royal We?!"
Nothing I did on D1 was even wolfy. Why should I follow into a vote wagon I don't believe in? You havent answered that
I have already provided how you have had no substance in your read of me, and that is what I am arguing. Nothing else.
Well I am not a wolf and I wont give you any credit for your way to handle my slot. God is dead so good luck tbh
doubling my boq read content from "kinda fine" to "pretty neat and kinda fine"
btw it is funny that achro tried to shade me for having wim and not him
feels like a complaint that i am actually bringing the fire tbqfh
doubling my boq read content from "kinda fine" to "pretty neat and kinda fine"
Thank you tbh, there might be a place in the Caroleans army for you yet
ok im lock towning boq forever gg haha
so anyway
lapras/achro/cape would be my d1 reads goat world
:curtain:
btw it is funny that achro tried to shade me for having wim and not him
feels like a complaint that i am actually bringing the fire tbqfh
This is actually a complaint that I am sleepy and was in o way shade
With lol
i think i only have ~one non-cape-wolf world left in consideration and i don't think it's it
is my foreshadowing subtle enough tbh
omfg i forgot you were in the game for 1 second and it was just when I wrote a read list, and I corrected it myself. You are gigantifying something super small. How is this even connected to what I said in the post you are quoting btw? I can't see the connection, just that you want to needle with that again
"I have done you no material harm"
*literally 10 min ago*
"It was I, Boq! I was the one who almost got you killed on D1! How dare you forget the Royal We?!"
Nothing I did on D1 was even wolfy. Why should I follow into a vote wagon I don't believe in? You havent answered that
I have already provided how you have had no substance in your read of me, and that is what I am arguing. Nothing else.
Well I am not a wolf and I wont give you any credit for your way to handle my slot. God is dead so good luck tbh
Yes but you are still alive. Walk it off lol.
Gn
Oh and I found it wolfy that you didn't have any real imput at the time because from my experience that often comes from wolves happy with the top wagon.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVQgxwdUMAUn0vN.png
i don't particularly care for sabaton, you'd need katze for that, but i'm applying for a spot in the boq army
this day has either been very productive for solving and made the possibilities more clear to me or i have been taken for a ride and ranmilia is looking on in disapproval but lets go
Yes but you are still alive. Walk it off lol.
Gn
if you're a wolf you'll regret not finishing the job on d1 tbh
Oh and I found it wolfy that you didn't have any real imput at the time because from my experience that often comes from wolves happy with the top wagon.
But I had input, I just didnt put it in big words. My input was "Wisdom is town, Illario idk but doesnt feel like wolf, I wanna vote my wolf read"
sadly that was a town too tho
THE BOQ HAS AWAKENED TBQFH
Im with boq
I agree withh the lined up yeet stuff
Ppls reads on posts are either throwaway or wildly conspiracy laden
Then it becomws either associative reads or holistic reads that ppl dont answer when specifics are requested.
Tis scummy
yes i am a hypocrite i know
sloonei has my back
i don't particularly care for sabaton, you'd need katze for that, but i'm applying for a spot in the boq army
this day has either been very productive for solving and made the possibilities more clear to me or i have been taken for a ride and ranmilia is looking on in disapproval but lets go
eww katze now we have something in common smh
you might be welcomed to the army.
Busy right now
unvote
Want to read more in morning busy now
Im with boq
I agree withh the lined up yeet stuff
Ppls reads on posts are either throwaway or wildly conspiracy laden
Then it becomws either associative reads or holistic reads that ppl dont answer when specifics are requested.
Tis scummy
The LHF join forces to take down the establishment!
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/425/708/2d8.jpg
*eyes my unalignment chart with a frown*
Perhaps some review is required of that tbh
People who make me laugh tend to be town and boq has made me laugh a couple of times during this exchange.
Secret town tells
it is funny to me that Syn, Nutella and Achro now starts giving me town points tbh
Krigets konst jag beh?rskar - The art of war I have mastered
L?t mitt namn sprida skr?ck - May my name spread horror
G?ng p? g?ng, sjung Carolus s?ng - Time after Time, sing Boq's song
?n en g?ng, sjung Carolus s?ng - Once more, sing Boq's song
F?dd att h?rska, leda mina m?n i strid - Born to rule, lead my men to battle
Ingen man kan mig befalla, jag lyder under Gud - No man can command me, I only take orders from God
My swedish letters are under attack and discrimination. Help
it is funny to me that Syn, Nutella and Achro now starts giving me town points tbh
Krigets konst jag beh?rskar - The art of war I have mastered
L?t mitt namn sprida skr?ck - May my name spread horror
G?ng p? g?ng, sjung Carolus s?ng - Time after Time, sing Boq's song
?n en g?ng, sjung Carolus s?ng - Once more, sing Boq's song
F?dd att h?rska, leda mina m?n i strid - Born to rule, lead my men to battle
Ingen man kan mig befalla, jag lyder under Gud - No man can command me, I only take orders from God
now?
jag har alltid alskat dig
now?
jag har alltid alskat dig
your wolf case on me even pointed out that i just boringly town read you and didn't bother scum-reading you at any point
People who make me laugh tend to be town and boq has made me laugh a couple of times during this exchange.
Secret town tells
somewhere, wisdom shakes with rage
this grants my perspective confusion
maybe all this is a pocket attempt.
maybe it is genuine and i am successfully forming a town block
I will sleep on it
wolves literally fuming rn because i towned up
https://media.tenor.com/_J-Z2O9x0E0AAAAd/sleep-sleeping-time.gif
Will say lapras wanting to go first tomorrow is interesting. That vote should be telling.
how is it interesting?
Boquise i didn't even wolfread you but i see what you're saying
what do you think about cape, that's the opinion i care about from you the most right now
this sounds rather dismissive but i'm asking to inform my solve
correction before somebody inevitably points this out: i did wolfread boq earlier into the game, i no longer wolfread him after that, i only suggested options of him being on certain teams today
this grants my perspective confusion
maybe all this is a pocket attempt.
maybe it is genuine and i am successfully forming a town block
I will sleep on it
disappointed that you didn't vote sleep after the last sentence there
how is it interesting?
Boquise i didn't even wolfread you but i see what you're saying
what do you think about cape, that's the opinion i care about from you the most right now
this sounds rather dismissive but i'm asking to inform my solve
your points about achro are noted
something something don't sleep, cape is here to save the game right now but be patient as saving the game takes time. I'm guessing like a few hours for me to just sort this mess of a game.
if you do a sleep tldr holy crap lapras is bleeding scum it's so obvious today LMAO
Lapras is such a slam dunk i have a flawless case coming
im looking through SBPC by the way so im going Lapras > dyachei > Boq > Syn > Vulgard > Achro > nutella and doing as much as I can muster because I swear im town
sorry i got excited and had to post now lol
VOTE TALLY AS OF #2945
Sleep 2 nutella syn
Majority is in effect. With 8 players remaining the magic number is 5. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.
Night is at 7pm eastern on 4/1
This thread is lost without my towny guidance so let me be the ultimate epic solver of the century.
The colors are for fun btw if ur wondering about that because this is a fun game
Lapras:
-my immediate reaction to 2925 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846246&viewfull=1#post2053846246) is lol.
-asks to vote first
-2834 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846150&highlight=#post2053846150) y'all townies huh? Question can I vote first? :bounce:
-Plays the "I have been set up" card. Criminals use this often. Coincidence?
-2788 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846103&viewfull=1#post2053846103) so like DZ claims here that they are inno because they were on Vulgard in this wagon. The frustrating thing about you Lapras is that if you are town, you really don't care about this game do you? Besides, WIFOM, and you could have told ur mafia partners to make sure u didn't go over, you had probably enough power as a formation of mafia to do so and other people were clearly not going to get off Rask, especially the motion detector who got the result. That's 3 automatic votes on Rask there. It would make Syn town in this scenario.
-Besides, your words have less validation with 2546 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845852&highlight=#post2053845852) "OR RASK". You not swapping to Rask here is ??? to me in this instance.
-2365 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845670&highlight=#post2053845670) ??? what is this on Syn...
-2356 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845661&viewfull=1#post2053845661) I feel like TMI gets thrown around a lot but this seems ridiculous when it comes to Lapras' handling of Rask.
-Just Lapras seeming so sure Rask was wolf then trying to grab credit for not being on him and being on Vulgard instead. It just feels like a play within the context of everything.
-1912 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845200&highlight=#post2053845200) amazing read on Visor, give it up for Lapras :cheerleader: 1913 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845201&viewfull=1#post2053845201) oh
-1909 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845197&highlight=#post2053845197) okay so it is you and Vulgard, got it. "But cape, DZ was on Vulgard yesterday" uh huh, it's called a safe vote on a bus, an easy way to milk that cred.
-I dont know if 1455 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844735&highlight=#post2053844735) is w/w with Boq to be fair. Boq is definitely one of my least confident SRs.
-1431 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844710&viewfull=1#post2053844710) - I love this post, I'm sure Lapras knows why, so blah blah blah, then Lapras says this
"...they can do smart votes/plays so in future days they look unpartnered e.g. staft pushing/voting wolf pals anticipating possible wolf flip
So they can do what they want and it generate anti spew"
Hmm... all of this sounds familiar to me... you know WITH THE WHOLE LAPRAS TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR DIPPING OUT OF THE THREAD WHILE HIS VOTE WAS STILL ON VULGARD.
Wake up, wake up, hold your heart! hold your life!
-1898 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845186&viewfull=1#post2053845186) lol.
-anyways I think this is enough, I dont think earlier days are quite as bad, they just seem a bit blendy and underwhelming. Oh wait I have something 1071 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844345&highlight=#post2053844345) and 1388 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844667&highlight=#post2053844667) on nutella. Now that's something that I also don't like.
This was gonna be including everyone. but i like this case so im making it separate :3
This thread is lost without my towny guidance so let me be the ultimate epic solver of the century.
The colors are for fun btw if ur wondering about that because this is a fun game
Lapras:
-my immediate reaction to 2925 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846246&viewfull=1#post2053846246) is lol.
-asks to vote first
-2834 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846150&highlight=#post2053846150) y'all townies huh? Question can I vote first? :bounce:
-Plays the "I have been set up" card. Criminals use this often. Coincidence?
-2788 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846103&viewfull=1#post2053846103) so like DZ claims here that they are inno because they were on Vulgard in this wagon. The frustrating thing about you Lapras is that if you are town, you really don't care about this game do you? Besides, WIFOM, and you could have told ur mafia partners to make sure u didn't go over, you had probably enough power as a formation of mafia to do so and other people were clearly not going to get off Rask, especially the motion detector who got the result. That's 3 automatic votes on Rask there. It would make Syn town in this scenario.
-Besides, your words have less validation with 2546 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845852&highlight=#post2053845852) "OR RASK". You not swapping to Rask here is ??? to me in this instance.
-2365 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845670&highlight=#post2053845670) ??? what is this on Syn...
-2356 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845661&viewfull=1#post2053845661) I feel like TMI gets thrown around a lot but this seems ridiculous when it comes to Lapras' handling of Rask.
-Just Lapras seeming so sure Rask was wolf then trying to grab credit for not being on him and being on Vulgard instead. It just feels like a play within the context of everything.
-1912 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845200&highlight=#post2053845200) amazing read on Visor, give it up for Lapras :cheerleader: 1913 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845201&viewfull=1#post2053845201) oh
-1909 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845197&highlight=#post2053845197) okay so it is you and Vulgard, got it. "But cape, DZ was on Vulgard yesterday" uh huh, it's called a safe vote on a bus, an easy way to milk that cred.
-I dont know if 1455 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844735&highlight=#post2053844735) is w/w with Boq to be fair. Boq is definitely one of my least confident SRs.
-1431 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844710&viewfull=1#post2053844710) - I love this post, I'm sure Lapras knows why, so blah blah blah, then Lapras says this
Hmm... all of this sounds familiar to me... you know WITH THE WHOLE LAPRAS TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR DIPPING OUT OF THE THREAD WHILE HIS VOTE WAS STILL ON VULGARD.
Wake up, wake up, hold your heart! hold your life!
-1898 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845186&viewfull=1#post2053845186) lol.
-anyways I think this is enough, I dont think earlier days are quite as bad, they just seem a bit blendy and underwhelming. Oh wait I have something 1071 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844345&highlight=#post2053844345) and 1388 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844667&highlight=#post2053844667) on nutella. Now that's something that I also don't like.
This was gonna be including everyone. but i like this case so im making it separate :3
Lol im town but go off king
I dont actually think any of that is a case?
Its just calling everything i do scummy without explaining it.
Why wouldnt i, as town, feel set up this game?
With my vote, i thought vul was more likelt to be a wolf and thought it would show im towny by not self prezzing. Yes if im a wolf, my partners xan save me. But why would the choice of play be me vote off wagon, none lf them bus, then i clme in today like i have? Wouldnt ivget one of tjem to bring it up?
And yh i care about this game to the degree i can play a casual game popping in and out. Go off king
I dont actually think any of that is a case?
Its just calling everything i do scummy without explaining it.
Why wouldnt i, as town, feel set up this game?
With my vote, i thought vul was more likelt to be a wolf and thought it would show im towny by not self prezzing. Yes if im a wolf, my partners xan save me. But why would the choice of play be me vote off wagon, none lf them bus, then i clme in today like i have? Wouldnt ivget one of tjem to bring it up?
And yh i care about this game to the degree i can play a casual game popping in and out. Go off king
I have no words
sorry for the rand brother
do i have to explain why what i turquoised/underlined = bad or????
god maybe with this town
I have no words
sorry for the rand brother
do i have to explain why what i turquoised/underlined = bad or????
god maybe with this town
Well im town so either your a wolf or your about to pull off another demo republic of mafia
Well im town so either your a wolf or your about to pull off another demo republic of mafia
more aptly, im pulling a long form joat 10er, quite literally :)
more aptly, im pulling a long form joat 10er, quite literally :)
Unfortunately not
Why is it wolfy to not self prez to show case towniness
Unfortunately not
Why is it wolfy to not self prez to show case towniness
why in the world if you are town do you care about showing towniness. Especially by that cop out mean to do so?
like bruh just be towny if you are town
Yh but how do you "be towny" lol
I be'd towny by willingly dying and not self prezzing
I think ive been plenty towny tyvm (though not as much as i can do admittedly.)
Yh but how do you "be towny" lol
I be'd towny by willingly dying and not self prezzing
I think ive been plenty towny tyvm (though not as much as i can do admittedly.)
I got a simple one. Solve. I have been writing stuff on dya/boq so far and it's been taking forever but I am gonna solve this
how is it interesting?
Boquise i didn't even wolfread you but i see what you're saying
what do you think about cape, that's the opinion i care about from you the most right now
this sounds rather dismissive but i'm asking to inform my solve
I... I wrote about cape in my wall. Did you not read that..?
I am aware that you are not "really" wolf reading me rn, just have me in several teams. My main problem was your push and how you made a heel-faced turn to town read me, and not seemingly caring anymore about the rask vs me thing
disappointed that you didn't vote sleep after the last sentence there
i'm broke
it is pretty lol that peeps have barely interacted with my solve and theories today, just said it was good and hear what i say
like, that feels like the general theme in these past days. Cape ignored it altogether. I guess it doesn't fit the worldview tbh. Lapras was the one who poked some of it, but it was not much at all.
lol.
I got a simple one. Solve. I have been writing stuff on dya/boq so far and it's been taking forever but I am gonna solve this
im looking forward to read the stuff dya has said and done that makes me X alignment tbh
im looking forward to read the stuff dya has said and done that makes me X alignment tbh
hm. yeah im gonna have to disappoint you early on that one. Anything in specific you wanted me to look at in terms of that? Honestly I was mulling over 2888 and thinking the post was towny, but I was definitely was kinda scumreading you a little bit before then
Anyways
(Colors are still for fun)
dyachei:
-I kind of like 2880 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846201&highlight=#post2053846201) in terms of reads. Not sure what new parent means here. Congrats if he is tbh though.
-2868 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846186&viewfull=1#post2053846186) "However, cape can be with almost anyone and as the game" yeah I'm gonna chalk this one up to y'all not remembering my posts and/or confbiasing yourselves into a w!cape world. Though the second part is true, I have gotten less involved in the game as it progressed. Oddly enough, it's the opposite with you which is slightly towny IMO. These are 3 people that I can see as towny so I dont have problems with this.
-2863 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846181&viewfull=1#post2053846181)/2864 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846182&viewfull=1#post2053846182) Get 'em sick 'em! To be fair this might be scummy depending on the context :p. Well Vulgard emphasized that it was possible that he had bad day 1 reads. Eh okay.
-dya plz I am town who is aligned to myself.
-dya going from nutella being obvtown to accusing them of being scum, im not even sure if that whole nutella being obvtown comment was a mistake or not because dya said nutella perspective slipped during the rask thing.
-either dya is flailing or obvious town. Honestly who knows with dya's lack of assessment of me after a while for the most part.
-I do kinda like dya reading people off of how other people read them. It's what I like doing as town.
-2531 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845837&highlight=#post2053845837) interesting how you have this take about Vulgard but still really wanna push me or something because Vulgard and Lapras are unaligned because of the wagon or whatever which if you are saying that, not true. Lapras is just gaslighting me at the current moment saying I have no reasons behind me thinking lapras is scummy... right. I had plenty of reasons there.
-dya I just think isn't partnered with a wolf obviously. Whether that is Vulgard/nutella, idk. If not then obviously dya is mafia.
-2527 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845833&highlight=#post2053845833) I guess this wasn't wrong.
-I don't know what a chill game is. But you have sheeped the thread into reading me differently for whatever reason.
-There was also 2246 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845546&viewfull=1#post2053845546) from earlier.
-What does onerus mean?
-dya's pushes and attitude look really towny on the surface level, but the way they develop their reads is like.. eh? But then again this is me tryharding right now in a chill game and I still think some of dya's handling of slots have been towny. I liked their insight on Syn.
Boquise:
-I'm absolutely mad about you towning it up, very fuming. Actually they probably don't care since I am such an easy push anyways. Also I don't know what ur talking about rn since im reading backwards. Well I sort of know.
-2913 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846234&viewfull=1#post2053846234) by the way you phrased this, you are saying Achro should sus himself for having WIM???? Rephrase this, it isn't clear.
-2911 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846232&viewfull=1#post2053846232) I already made a banger post at the start of day 2 disproving this 1244 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844521&viewfull=1#post2053844521). But that's just me having an opinion. Oh and i like my meta post 1333 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053844610&viewfull=1#post2053844610).
-2909 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846230&viewfull=1#post2053846230) Boq, your push on me isn't special because literally everyone had this opinion because I have posted less day 3 and today. Name a person who townreads me or has townread me and retracted that.
-2908 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846229&viewfull=1#post2053846229) late game player huh? Not me, I forget too much stuff. Anyways, slightly towny post.
-2900 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846221&viewfull=1#post2053846221) Wolf slip? I am gonna press X there on that.
-2899 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846220&viewfull=1#post2053846220)
Which reminds me of Cape actually backing down from his read on me because I was bragging and talking up my reads. Which is a super weaksauce reason to town read me (and that has disappeared now in present time)
Yes that was a reason. It's disingenuous to just bring this up because that's not everything. I made this huge point about how I assumed as wolf you would just side with against Wisdom and keep pushing them. It isn't necessarily that I don't townread you, I just townread everyone outside of you more then you.
It looks to me like when a wolf knows that a town is about to burst into town mode so they back down to make them still a viable target
I had this expectation if you are town. Yes. *bonk*.
Also nice word salad, like wtf does "so they back down to make them still a viable target" mean? You mean for later? Do you think as wolf I would be the person to find it easier to push you rather then Wisdom down the road? I don't get it. Also if I assumed you were getting into your town mode or whatever why would that still make you a viable target.
The obvious reason to why I haven't talked too much about you is I just kinda threw you in the POE because I didn't have a third wolf, just me thinking it was Lapras/Vulgard/+1 but like I dont like putting +1 so I just put my next best guess.
-I will agree with Achro kinda posting not great though today. Eh.
-2888 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846209&viewfull=1#post2053846209)
maybe thats why lapras is pushed more now because he is less active? Easier target.
dontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitdontthinkitd ontthinkit
lapras/boq w/w
youaretryingtobefairyouaretryingtobefairyouarenotconfbiasingthisandlosingthegameyouarenotconfbiasing thisandlosingthegameyouarenotconfbiasingthisandlosingthegame
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Cape pushed my actual posts D1 but now when I have got my gears moving he has hardly reacted to any of 'em."]Cape pushed my actual posts D1 but now when I have got my gears moving he has hardly reacted to any of 'em.
I... suppose this is fair that I didn't bring up specific quotes, but I did actually cite stuff and didn't just dismiss you as "not having reads" you were pressured into giving reads but I didn't cite it so im mafia. Too bad ISOing is so limited.
Like, Cape bringing up meta to compare me to this game, but isn't really processing the new posts I am making. I believe this sort of pushing establish two things: 1) It creates a thread truth that I am actually not doing anything, I have no reads, I am saying nothing etc. 2) it makes wolves not having to actually interact with me because they now know I have got into gear and will be a difficult push.
I'm flattered maybe that you think I am some sort of cult leader who can magically make people not process your posts and make EVERYONE believe you aren't doing anything. But that's clearly not how I played.
Wait
You are not making SENSE
1) and 2) just next to each other look really silly, you think?
If you are not doing anything, if this is the consensus, then why don't wolves interact with you?
okay maybe I am getting what you mean.
You are saying that for instance, I am wolf, I am leaving you alone after I drop my case on you and refuse to talk to you when you "get towny" to just paint this narrative that you are just super wolfy or whatever. Still clearly not how I played.
Achro's scum read of me is not based on anything I have done, but what Lapras has done. It is a scum read per association aside from pushing me yesterday because I forgot him and Lapras for a second, which is ridiculous and having jury'd his championship games I know that when he pushes someone as town, he pushes with way more details and quality in his reads. He also pushes much stronger. Now it is like "yeh boq can be scum, or lapras, idk". Thats nagl
To be fair, this is valid. Also probably the only reason I can think of not to think Lapras is wolf here. The whole thing with Lapras voting Vulgard was PLANNED dude I swear in my expert post game stance.
The last time Cape really interacted with me was when I said he was pushing me because he -wants- me to be a wolf more than anything else and he agreed, which I felt could be open wolfing.
I am brutally honest as town. I am not going to lie, this is because the game is easier if you are wolf. Also now that I think about it, this is a... i forget what you call it strawman? slippery slope? But of course I want my wolf pushes to be correct as town, that's a no brainer. There is a certain adrenaline rush I get when I correctly make a big case on a wolf. I would be surprised if that hasn't happened ONCE. Which honestly is less exciting but you were the OG wolf case.
The predicament is that I have town read both Cape and Nutella. If both of them are town I am left with like... Achro/Vulgard/??? Syn does not work. Lapras does not work at all. And I am town reading Dya pretty strongly (watch it be Achro/Vulgard/Dya and I am a joke). Tho Dya/Vulgard is probably unlikely???
So at least 1 of Cape/Nutella must be scum.
So... you are town?
Yeah okay this post is towny.
-2852 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846168&viewfull=1#post2053846168) - Hear me out, it's because I am town.
-2854 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846170&viewfull=1#post2053846170) I just disagree with this post on Lapras. 2853 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846169&viewfull=1#post2053846169) Semantics reads :stars:. A quite INTERESTING one at that (I say interesting all the time).
-2530 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845836&viewfull=1#post2053845836) Reasonable read on dya/Vulgard. Talks about Vulgard not addressing Boq's concerns.
-I kinda like 2496 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845802&viewfull=1#post2053845802) too when it comes to Boq talking to Syn here about Wisdom and how ppl treated Wisdom.
I'm going to random aside here. When I expressed that I was changing my mind about Wisdom at EOD and all that the day Wisdom died, guess who questioned that and seemed to care about that. robyn and EnderWiggin. This has nothing to do with Boq, but I will keep it in mind.
-Not sure I like the answer that boq gave to Vulgard in 2483 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845789&viewfull=1#post2053845789), but probs woulda bothered me more if rask was wolf.
-2474 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845780&viewfull=1#post2053845780)
However given the sudden sarcasm pop-in on Vulgard + trying to meld the "Why I thought Wisdom was a wolf" response with "btw Vulgard is a wolf" thought in one post makes Syn/Vulgard never w/w with each other tbh
what as this referring to?
-2468 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845774&viewfull=1#post2053845774) well you are right about it being defensive and sarcastic, but why is that bad?
-2457 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845763&viewfull=1#post2053845763) The ONE recent game where I played with Vulgard wolf, 1) it was a hydra 2) I was townreading the slot 3) I died early. So no.
-2431 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845737&viewfull=1#post2053845737) you wanted to remember this in rask v worlds. you're welcome.
-2426 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845732&viewfull=1#post2053845732) this whole comment about how many people have put him in POE because they "want" him to be wolf, then the whole going on about how he is going to follow the PR's reads because that's how you play. This initially pinged me. But it really doesn't now tbh I like the lil details in it like
I think how Rask shamed my reaction to Ender's action was townie for what it's worth
-2421 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845727&viewfull=1#post2053845727) I have like Achro's postings from what I was seeing and their conviction behind their posts, but I will still consider it since im finding you towny.
I have been lazy so I have just been forgetting stuff and why I have been townreading certain people and stuff like that. You know, chill game :). But thankfully been remembering with you.
-2411 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845716&viewfull=1#post2053845716) now that u mention it, Achro didn't make a scene out of this when I pointed this out earlier. I said like today or something that i didnt remember achro was in the game and he was just like "omg i just came into the thread, kinda spooky" and then left it there. It was something like that.
-I'm NGL, kinda digging how Boq is keeping his stories straight.
-The way you responded to me looks like villager upon a retrospective look
-Honestly think Boq is town upon a retrospective look
I just really didn't like how he has felt like he hasn't been evaluating me fairly and just him pushing Achro in general. Honestly that read feels a little underdeveloped just not bringing up anything in specific that made him scummy, besides obviously today.
that took way too long oh god
also I would have to like... read back back on some of what boq said earlier, the ISO just cut out there, but I am more interested right now in solving the rest of the players
About to go on errand run so will answer your posts more later, but just wanna say
"Boq, your push on me isn't special because literally everyone had this opinion because I have posted less day 3 and today."
It is funny that you kinda call yourself an easy push here for being less active, but also sussing me and Lapras for pointing out the very same things regarding our own slots.
Also no I was saying that Achro complaining about me having WIM sounded like a wolf who is upset that I am bringing in fire into a gamestate where wolves rather want town to be depressed and low wim. It is shading high wim to make town not feel like they can express wim in the game state lest they will be wolf read by the other players, something I have observed wolves doing when they want to keep a status quo.
I slept and yet I am still exhausted. Going to be one of those days huh
Anyway boq your last post is pretty bad when you consider if I wanted to keep the status quo so bad I wouldn't have asked for this to not be a quick day. Now mind you when I said that I thought I was going to have energy so oops.
It is interesting to me though that the moment you are energetic and I am not suddenly me not being full of wim is a massive scum tell whereas your earlier lack of wim was merely circumstance.
I am usually pretty good at understanding arguments against me be they good or be they bad and really your arguments against me here are just really awful lol.
Like 'wow achro complained about being tired this is a wolf tell' like ??? Do you not see I was going for irony that you were very low wim for 3 days and all of a sudden you are full of wim and I am not? You for some really unknown reason took it as shade even after I said it wasn't shade directly lol. Like my entire playstyle isn't exactly sneaky wordplay I kind of bash your head in over and over if I think something is off like lapras post about eod1 or how it wiggled my brain wrong that you forgot me and lapras specifically because I am one of the higher posters and lapras is one of the lowest posters so it felt really unnatural. If you are town and it is what it is then fair enough but I have a duty to play the game and observe how I see fit.
This is actually a complaint that I am sleepy and was in no way shade
Wth lol
Like uh if I want to make a point I hammer it home and if I feel like something is misunderstood I will seek to clarify it. Like I do here.
But anyway since your read on me obviously isn't nuanced or involve anything other than selective omgus I no longer feel the need to waste my time back reading you tbh. It's a chill game after all and backreading today isn't chill for Ole achro
I am not saying your lack of wim is a scum tell.
I am saying that you shading me for having high wim whereas you don't is a scum tell, and I explained why it is. The shading part is the key.
It is weird to me that throughout the game people have not understood the points I make, be it in small posts or large ones. It is a bit disheartening. I shouldn't be this incomprehensible? I feel like people just don't want to understand me to legitimise pushes, which is what I meant Cape when I said that you just want me to be a wolf.
Not sleeping is actually good for wolves because it can exhaust town resources. Only reason I decided to start posting more thoughts is because it seemed like the thread had decided to discuss more.
Also my read is nuanced. I argued how the world is if you're town and acknowledged that I could be wrong. Even constructed a poe of 3 if you're town. This sounds like a cop-out and I declare myself victor of this battle tbh
Anyway I am going to do some irl stuff, then process Cape's post fully, and then I will vote sleep. Gonna attend a party tonight so won't be here much
Kind of funny that not sleeping did exhaust a town resource. Ironic.
Also I never shaded you for having wim lol
Also wolves don't miss the puzzle pieces they are the missing piece of the puzzle themselves. Boq why do you have so much energy when I have so little lol
Okay so this is the supposed shade. I was in the most literal sense just whining about being tired lol. This is right after a post where I said boq had town equity too.
Give me a break.
unfortunately that's all the solving I will probably do as of this day phase, I only got 4 hours of sleep so cya in lylo probably unless mafia just think I towntold enough back there which is true, but unlikely
also im like... vacationing on monday which makes this game lowkey kinda hard
i am making the clint eastwood squinty shifty eyes face with my soul
I decided to go to the party instead
my legacy is that wisdom is a wolf
VOTE TALLY AS OF #2979
Sleep 4 nutella lapras boquise syn
Majority is in effect. With 8 players remaining the magic number is 5. If you think Maj has been reached, please stop posting and let benneh and i know.
Night is at 7pm eastern on 4/1
my legacy is that wisdom is a wolf
Would a wolf really have the balls to make this post
Would a wolf really have the balls to make this post
not if they're neutered
my legacy is get a lil bit silly in lylo :3 benneh and sunbae are probably disappointed that we all took this game seriously and didnt post enough gifs
VOTE TALLY AS OF EOD
Sleep 4 nutella lapras boquise syn
NOBODY HAS DIED
As we did not receive confirmation from every person, there will not be a short night. Night will end at 7pm eastern tomorrow on 4/2.
Tomorrow will have votes be LOCKED. You will be UNABLE to change your vote once you make it. Do not attempt to angleshoot this rule by not using the Vote: X format. If it looks like a vote is being made, we will consider it a vote.
IT IS NIGHT. DO NOT POST.
nutella has been killed. They were vanilla town.
Village must chop correctly today or lose.
VOTES ARE LOCKED. ONCE YOU MAKE A VOTE YOU CANNOT CHANGE IT. Do not attempt to angleshoot this with fake looking votes that don't follow the Vote: X format. If it looks like a reasonable attempt at a vote, we will be counting it.
MAJ is in effect. With 7 players the magic number is 4. If you think maj has been reached please stop posting and let Benneh and I know.
Playerlist (7):
1. Achro
2. Boquise
3. Cape90
4. Dyachei
5. Lapras
6. Syn
7. Vulgard
Day will end at 7pm eastern on 4/4.
IT IS DAY
Vulgard:
-I could see recent material as pocketing t!Boq to take me down if vul is wolf.
-2869 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846187&viewfull=1#post2053846187) so you'll vote Lapras?
-2866 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846184&viewfull=1#post2053846184) yeah okay. 2869 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846187&viewfull=1#post2053846187) going back to this, this is Vulgard trying to convince dyachei!villager to vote mostly town, mind the rule of 3 on display with his partner Lapras. I mean im not confbiasing Vulgard as wolf. So Vulgard would do this as wolf because it works as a meat shield against dyachei's push while also telling dyachei to... mostly push villagers (it implies this because Lapras isn't mentioned first, syn voting me is. This works if Syn = villager. Darn a bit if dya decides to push Lapras BUT even if so, just reference that post to be like "okay dya this was the plan, stan, now vote these people". It's a W either way if Vulgard is wolf.
-There is definitely a defensiveness that comes off Vulgard that last day wowee.
-2860 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846176&viewfull=1#post2053846176) okay post on Lapras.
-2856 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053846173&viewfull=1#post2053846173) wall. Most obvious takeaway is dya isn't w/w with Vulgard if that wasn't obvious already. Okay so saying dya wolf over Lapras, I will add an "InTeReSTinG" to that one. Vulgard makes claims about dyachei not caring about the push on him.
Sidenote: Okay so there is an impasse I come across now if dyachei is wolf. dyachei/syn/achro is the only team that makes sense if Lapras isn't wolf. And I think in this instance, town loses. Just thought about that for various reasons like Vul not w/w and nutella not w/w with dyachei and probably not boq either because of what Boq literally said to me before I posted the big thing on Boq. Literally just leaving me with that, which makes me think dya is just a villager as a main take away of my thinking exercise.
Lapras feels like wolf to Vulgard due to gamestate reasons. I say yes.
Notes that achro/boq isn't a thing and me/boq isn't a thing
Syn can be with anyone and has pushed worldsided views according to Vulgard.
i'm really struggling to visualize a team that doesn't contain at least one of dya and lapras, but if i do this thought exercise, then achro/syn/cape is the only feasible one i can think of
true Lapras is outed wolf FMPOV. Thanks for confirming that if you are town, if not, im confbiased anyways.
gun-to-head i'd say the team is dya/lapras/syn but that doesn't feel exactly correct and it also feels like i'm just aiming for the most "obvious" targets rather than the actually correct targets
For how much you have been lightly gunning for me, not sure you believe this.
achro is ?probably? not with lapras? i think that post he wrote about lapras's pov @ boq is unlikely to have been written about a wolf partner
i also think that lapras randomly calling achro a wolf d1 would be pretty weird and random distancing though maybe i'm writing that off too easily
i think all three of them could be with dya unless i'm missing something
this was said and hedgy af about Achro/Lapras. Also I am not sure what Vulgard means when he said the whole "that post he wrote about lapras' POV" thing.
Vulgard somewhat contradicts himself later with him saying that me being partnered with Achro seems really obvious and saying that we are probably not w/w. Yeah I know this isn't a contradiction, but it is worth noting. Vulgard repeats points for some reason in this large post.
i'm ending up with something like dya>syn>lapras>boq>cape>achro in terms of team compatibility
so i'd say two in dya/syn/lapras and one in boq/cape/achro
quoting this for legacy reasons, it omits nutella because nutella is Vulgard's top town.
I think the post though is generally a net positive look for Vulgard.
-I like Vulgards EOD of the Rask day area tbh. I kinda agree with the treatment of dya minus the wolfreading of them.
-I am sort of thinking Vulgard is towny, is that bad? idk probably shush.
-2452 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845758&viewfull=1#post2053845758) towny kinda self defense comment.
-Okay to be fair, yeah Vulgard has been a bit defensive still.
-2447 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845753&viewfull=1#post2053845753) okay i kinda like this dyachei case admittedly.
-I kinda think Vulgard is town and team = Lapras/dyachei?/?. Town = Boq/Vulgard (a bit less then Boq).
Syn:
-I don't really know what to say about this slot.
-Kind of like their aggression??
-Kind of think Syn has been less towny then earlier.
-Syn suggesting flash wagoning me... I believe someone said Syn was pushing blatantly wolfy worlds??? whoever was doing that has TMI I am town /hj.
-2656 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845964&viewfull=1#post2053845964) I will consider this :curtain:
-2645 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845953&viewfull=1#post2053845953)pocketing nutella???
-Syn seemed anti-Vulgard and anti-cape after a while.
-2489 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154796-Motion-Detect-15er-2-GAME-THREAD?p=2053845795&viewfull=1#post2053845795) alright wrap it up. Syn is aligned with Rask therefore Syn is town.
-IDK I guess Syn can be mafia.
-Solve is Lapras/Syn/dya???
thank god i dont have to account for nutella and only have to for achro lmao
but yeah my solve be looking different.
I think we just lose if both me and Lapras are town so im very tempted to just lock that
it was hard to find stuff to say about syn and i'm still not sure about dya so I am very confident that Lapras is a hit
Yh but how do you "be towny" lol
I be'd towny by willingly dying and not self prezzing
I think ive been plenty towny tyvm (though not as much as i can do admittedly.)
i seriously do not get you because you sounded sure that Rask was wolf and you went against that on a quest to "look towny"
I don't care about this as town, I dont get it if you are town
there are so many random things that point to syn being town too which is a bit confusing
but i also still need to review achro
I am not saying your lack of wim is a scum tell.
I am saying that you shading me for having high wim whereas you don't is a scum tell, and I explained why it is. The shading part is the key.
It is weird to me that throughout the game people have not understood the points I make, be it in small posts or large ones. It is a bit disheartening. I shouldn't be this incomprehensible? I feel like people just don't want to understand me to legitimise pushes, which is what I meant Cape when I said that you just want me to be a wolf.
Not sleeping is actually good for wolves because it can exhaust town resources. Only reason I decided to start posting more thoughts is because it seemed like the thread had decided to discuss more.
Also my read is nuanced. I argued how the world is if you're town and acknowledged that I could be wrong. Even constructed a poe of 3 if you're town. This sounds like a cop-out and I declare myself victor of this battle tbh
i'm ngl I just skimmed over your points too much and dismissed them initially
VOTE: Lapras
I am going this, Syn, thanks for informing me that you are next
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37506-epic-longform-joat10er?p=6428007&viewfull=1#post6428007
I found u before DZ, found u again
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