Hey so you've been just saying "oh idk, has nothing going, link to benneh" for 3 game days now. Just read my posts and decide if im a villager or wolf!
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My personal strongest reads are Dya/Knights lock villagers on my own thoughts, grr villa by sponging half the threads dead villagers, jan probably v (i thought I may have caught a mixup but I dont think i did anymore and others are saying jan obv v). In a tier below is Monty villa. Not 3p, specifically villa.
My personal against the grain read is i think ladd is a villager from eod1 but I know going to bat for that in current thread state is devastating if wrong so I'm waiting a bit to see what he posts and if I can lock it in more confidently
What I mean is that Ender is my #2 by default currently and I can try analyzing the Whole again after my #1 is flipped.
So in principle, Arctic would have been able to use it immediately after the flip? :shrug:
Depending on how kills shake out - I'm being moderate to conservative - maybe D7 is F4 or something.
By D7, there should be no chance of ladd, ender, maple, wisdom, jan, dya, knights... being alive.
Jesus Christ, that's almost crazy enough to work, unless you're teamed. :creep:
Thoughts, Dolby?
Some napkin math on KPs.
15 players: 11 town, 4 maf.
D3 -1
N3 -2
D4 -1
N4 - 1
D5 -1
N5 -2
D6 -1
N6 -1
D7 -1
N7 -1
D8: F3
jan wouldnt you rb them?
ender being maf would make my d1 seem a lot better in retrospect.
i can see it, too. Idk that maple is gonna be a hot tbh. maybe he is but i have severe doubts. ladd feels more likely to me
manti, would arctic be able to potentially kill themselves with what u gave them?
Maple is saying that the card happens before night so it can't be roleblocked (unless there's a day roleblock but no way that exists). It could work but frankly, I don't want to do that because I do not necessarily think that Maple is lying about their role, I think that Maple is just a wolf. I should probably read back Arctic again from the lens of would he shoot Maple if he got a card (i.e. did he believe the card claim impacted Maple's wolfiness)
oh duh manti said it right there
Yeah I figure that's the best line, now it's just a matter of talking the thread into it.
I'm just getting started on breakfast right now. I think it's reasonably likely that you, knights, dya, prooooooobably grrr, maybe sunbae, hard maybe insomnia as villagers but that last one is based of a pretty shaky foundation at this point. I think if there is an arsonist it's likely that the ff claim is correct regardless of alignment, but can arso usually douse/ignite on the same night? Like, maybe it's a day action and ignites at night idk. How do we know they don't just have guns? Not sure. Jan getting a n1 save is totally plausible iyam
Ender I'm not really sure on. Frankly, I'm not actually sure if this game is role madness or if the limited number of VTs are just playing along. The timing of their claim is >rand v but again idk about all that stuff.
That leaves Ben Mont gemma vanta dolby (plus whatever I'm uncertain about above)
I mean off raw vibes, gemma is decent. I forgot vanta was still alive honestly. Need to reread Ben and mont again. Rask flipping 3p is actually annoying af cause it means a bunch of thoughts i jad yesterday are just straight up invalid. I'm still on the murder dolby plan, but eh I'm probably forced to jump out of that tunnel if I don't wanna die today.
I highly doubt it. The card I gave is a symbol of craftsmen particularly pertaining to expediance and movement. Some mercurial type shit.
I also didn't activate my ability last night, and even if I did and Arctic targeted me 1) I'd die too 2) he'd have deserved it for targeting a claimed PGO. Frankly, that's insulting his intelligence.
If I get voted out today, just kill dolby tonight for this dumb line.
Or haul him off to prison and execute him, that'd be cool too.
ToS jailer is unstoppable and pierces immunity, does yours also Jan?
alrighty i was wondering if he could have depseraod themselves
i wanna see ender claim tbh cause he is softing some inventor stuff and idk if both of your roles can coexist
monti seems like a villager but i'd absolutely hate losing to a wolf making an argument as dumb as his which makes me a bit recitent
There are upsides to stealing a card from Mafia and having Jan both execute Maple and deploy the card. (Mafia might refuse to cooperate, well, whatever - execute. If Maple is town, assume intrinsic motivation to not withholding the card due to facing policy lim.)
My final message for Monday: Do a virtual vote, see how much you can run the tally up on Maple. Is there majority support? If so, I'll "hammer", metaphorically speaking.
vote:wisdom
I will be back tomorrow
Vote: Maple
Yeah I think I'm just not gonna move
I firmly believe that we will always be given a reason to keep giving Maple one more day, and the claim doesn't actually mean anything towards Manti's alignment. It's a role madness game, of course Manti has a role that does stuff.
I don't think that Manti is town, and I think all five names in her POE are villagers rn. I kinda think that Manti is likely to be a stronger wolf than Wisdom just on the basis that Wisdom's claim isn't the strongest if they are w/w I guess but I don't really put much stock into that portion of this read.
Manti put your money where your mouth is and vote me, not one of the other names on that list
It's not Role Madness btw, most players aren't PRs here. As far as we know.
Oki.
Vote: ladd
day 1 to day 2 I feel like there was a lot of caution around their slot from various players and several people commented (probly including me at some point) about how they would die to village KP almost certainly this game and the general sentiment was they were ==rand
and on day 2 ppl just started... clearing her, or at least, townleaning her and the discussion about them getting killed just kinda died down and i got the impression no one that's a villager really wolf read her for her posts, it was more just a volume thing, and no one that's a wolf felt like they could really push her or take that line cause they knew it would look pretty weird if/when vanta flips v and was seen as a LHF / lazy kill
its just a vibe of a gamestate read but my read doesn't hinge on that, it just bolsters it a bit
there's some stuff I want to look back on that ladd mentioned re: his interactions d1 with maple being somewhat clearing/unaligned. if that's true that might be a good way to read into ladd more
but idrt the way you're talking about his approach to syn/rask/elsewhere does much for me? to quote you, titans of werewolf were pushing on sheep/knights that EOD (ladd and newcomb) and if that's v/v ladd could have just assumed him doing that + voting gemma would be enough to get through d1 unscathed?
meta wise, he hates bussing in turbos and mashes and i'm pretty sure this also holds true in longform games. idt insom's vote is on syn in a place where it makes sense to consider syn dead-weight to the point a non-busser feels the need to softly bus/gain cred, and even if it was or we ignored that, i feel like his excuse wouldnt be so laissez faire about how he didn't read their posts or have an opinion. wolf!insom is more than capable and i think more likely to gather some kind of fake thoughts to push out a wolf hoping to grab cred like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunbae
ignoring meta, i just think his posting is like, good, and with some of the rambling and direction he's been taking the thread when writing his posts, they don't seem to be doing much for his team other than him being villa read here on d3 when we've hit 2 days in a row (albeit yesterday could be considered a 'win' for wolves, but w/e)
This line actually reeks of false bravado.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Dolby basically never gets killed today in this game state and maple voting most people on that list is not making a huge difference today.
the leftovers basically have no heat right now and the one person he forgot is ladd who is not excluded before and not on the leftover list.
I cannot see anybody saying that and actually meaning it. *shrug*
I don't think wolves cared to push vanta until this point because they have enough targets and they can kill the people villa reading her first and consider turning that read later on.
It is not hard for me to map out today and wolves who actually know alignments likely have a good idea about tomorrow as well and know when/if they need to slowly drag her into the poe.
eh i feel like this post kinda goes against my original thoughts and somewhat validates what sunbae was thinking re: ladd. like, it reads like a defense sorta but not really. this doesn't feel like a response with TMI that syn is wolf and its somewhat unprompted from ladd (newcomb asked for it but ladd coulda ignored or gave a more vague/cloudy answer)
gona ponder on it a bit
let's just keep calling venti clear today and hope the wolves kill them in the night
@Sunbae i reread eod focusing on gemma a bit more beyond the iso and ... ya, sorry, not much changed
i wont be floored if they're a wolf but i still see little things that make me lean v? like i hear what you are saying but its not clicking for me
If ladd's a wolf, I'm fighting for my life to avoid the pocket. I'm still thinking him over. I did, indeed, forget to list him in that prior post, and he would in fact have been in the bottom group (hence the "and anyone im forgetting")
idk i *know* im being too soft this game on my village reads cause I genuinly just don't have enough wolf reads
with a 3p flip that puts us into 21p so that's just 4 wolves + SK or 5 wolves if the 3p was benign
so like 3 wolves outta all these players?
Let's just assume I'm right about dolby. That my clears on jan, dya, knights are correct. I'm just not touching being wrong on knights like right now. I have grr who is ~probably village based on like big vibes stuff that's been discussed a lot, i believe
insomnia i can pretty easily be wrong on. Same with sunbae, but I don't think I am.
idk ben feels like he just *shouldnt* be a wolf (which makes rask flipping 3p so gd annoying, tbh, im gonna need to reread the ENTIRE yesterday section there with that context in mind)
i just don't *get* wisdom this game. I dunno, it's a massive void in the middle of the game for me cause like okay let's say they're ff, what are they doing? If they're wolf, what are they doing? Idk I need to re-iso the slot again, I guess.
and yes, i recognize that i'm posting exactly like how i post as a wolf, we're all going to have to deal with it together
presumably by putting me into the ground, but hey we all saw that coming
@Dolby
it seems like you're pretty familiar with ender's meta. do you actually think he could fake all of the things he's done this game as a wolf? it was my impression that whenever he was wolf in my games, it was simply a PoE process thing where i'd open his iso and come out with a true null or i'd have to make a ton of mental gymnastics to interpret micro moments as villagery, not even at a macro level
i would kinda like more insight there cuz idk if im just tripping here for thinking he's just a villa
benneh can prob answer too cuz he's played with him iirc
sunbae, i've only started re-reading D1 but isoing is hell on this site. idt i've done a single iso, most of my reads are just reading the whole thread and im lazy. i guess us not vibing in real time and you having a waller-y type of posting style is making me not appreciate the finer details, but then again i had no issue villa reading bop so i guess i just haven't seen something that would move you out of PoE for me. i'll likely get to reading you / benneh once we flip in maple / wisdom or some other people, ergo my opinion should only matter once we have some chance to kill / save you
re-reading up to page 10 just makes me feel stronger about jan just on a gameplay level, but i was already thinking he was a villager off the claim and the reasons i've mentioned (which some people said were wifom)
and i guess i don't like wisdom's reads from early, but the reason i didn't wanna re-read is cuz wisdom is already a pretty complex villa thinker in that it's really hard to follow their train of thought and also their train of thought isn't conventionally villagery. which is why i didn't wanna even read their posts, lol
A more detailed response will have to come hours from now bc I am kind of considering if I was wrong on Ender w right now tbh and I have liked his day three so far. And I'm also at work and cannot go fully into a level of detail deserving of the question for a long time. With that said, I felt when reading through his D1 that I didn't like his direction at all or how he started generating reads, I still feel like at SOD1 he just took one thing and used to generate his world view which I don't really associate with town Ender at all.
I'm worried that I've been getting a false positive from D2 bc he seemed to be floundering, but it could have been bc he just didn't have enough time to fully eval from the thread. I actually really dislike how he voted Rask and just never moved. Yes he was exploring other places as well throughout the day but that was unfortunately never elaborated on in a manner that was satisfactory to me (I still like, even in the one bigger post he has on them, feel his cases on sunbae/Bennen), but he dismissed the slot in entirity when I thought that there were moments from Rask that looked uninformed and that he had a town thought process (which we now know was real), and I think that Ender would be able to find Rask as not mafia in that situation. Heck, he called him in his maf play, which I disagree with (rask did have sus posts but I feel that he had posts where he actually had a visible solving process). In fact I think the only really towny thing that he has on D2 (which I am giving him a good bit of cred for) is him finding Monty as town on D2 and having a good rationale for it.
I like a lot of what he's put out today, live reacting with me and Wisdom. I think the only thing I dislike from him today funnily enough is him dismissing Monty as a neut (rather than neut or town) to hard in a post. I really need him to come back with something on ladd, or something that convinces me on benneh and sunbae bc tbh I just view his susses on benneh and sunbae as kinda weak and like, I look at what he says about them and I'm like "yeah they can do that and still are town"
alright, stopped at around the time where mont came back and i want to read his EoD tomorrow cuz i heard it was villagery
honestly im just hoping we're in an ideal world where the team is sunbae / maple / wisdom / +1
and i want it to be ladd but something (not a soft) just stops me from making the call even though objectively i think it's correct
@Sunbae arctic pointed this out but idt i saw you answering it
This is a quick drive by (i know i have other people to respond to who answered questions for me from last night I just haven't gotten the chance to fully sit down and won't til overnight).
I understand this and maybe it's the lack of in-thread time together (same with me/ender!) but here's my issue with your idea of backburning it til after maple/wisdom (despite understanding isoing is really hard here and ive done way less than normal myself and instead read thread as whole sections):
One of my worlds I'm throwing around in my head is specifically you/gemma/benneh because I can piece together how everything went down with that team. In this world, eod1 Ladd is voting Gemma, you shade Ladd. You defend Gemma by pushing Knights for wanting to be alive more. Syn and Benneh aren't around and two of the main wagons are Gemma/Syn. You mention that you haven't read Syn but vote there and Gemma votes there once Knights basically forces her off. You tie me/benneh together some but make sure to shade me more than Benneh. When that receives brushback from Ladd and someone else about me being more villagery than benneh, you reiterate that Benneh at least had something specifically villagery with the thing with getting focused on a small thing from (forgetting exactly who atm, its a drive by sorry). And this kind of carries through day 2 where Bop mentions Gemma fell off the "tonal cliff" or something (said about knights too but idk, birthday seems a good reason) and then the game gets bogged down in claims/counters. And obviously a few people have been telling me to keep an eye on Benneh (dya did at least, i think newcomb did too). So even though I still want to villa read benneh I'm trying to keep thigns in mind.
Now I'm not saying this is MY TEAM OMG FOLLOW ME EVERYONE I'm just saying it's one I've been exploring and thinking about and I think I can see how this team is all tied together, what was going on, why, and how it all played out if so.
So my concern of like "well lets just deal with maple/wisdom and then worry about it" is like, in the cases I'm right here at that point it'd be too late for me you know? And I get it, it's a little weird for me to start being suspicious of you when you have a wolf vote and I don't! And I'm not even saying it's my best wolf read! It's just if I feel my villa reads of Dya/Knights/Grr/Jan are right and my reread read of Ladd villa is right, then I need to see where I think the wolves are.
And like, ok so I know Bop was really locked in Wisom and I think we're all like staring at Maple and I understand that those two are almost certainly getting resolved soon, but if they are wolves then I think we're in the drivers seat and fine and me exploring other options wont matter much while if they are villagers then this part is really important you know?
Now can I be wrong on Ladd? Certainly! Another world I'm exploring is specifically Ladd/Maple/X (i mentioned my gut ping about Ladds comment about Maple day 1). In this world wolves were likely cruising eod1 and then got blindsided by a late Syn wagon. I'd imagine you, gemma, and knights are lock town in this world which, hype.
I also know either Bop or Arctic or Stett mentioned keeping an eye on the potential that we just wagoned a ton of wolves day 1 and they bussed (this included Knights so even if I personally have Knights as a very likely villager who id be floored if wolf, I'm still viewing that as well just to be thorough).
Now, I definitely have a blind spot with Dolby/Vanta but I've gotten the vibe Dolby's posts today are pretty villagery? I think someone disagreed in my catchup but I'll need to check that later. So exploring there is good too to shore up that read.
So yeah that's just the general where my heads at
Theres not really much to answer about that. Grabbed three people I had no personal thoughts on and asked people for opinions. Anything more than that is the same thing as Stetts and Enders "idk, i think youre performative" to which all I can reply is "ok" but that sounds dismissive so I say nothing instead
i've read all of your post, but your theory doesn't apply because i was voting gemma and we had a pretty rough fight in thread. i doubt i would be that tilted about it although i can put on that act, not sure if gemma would be that type of wolf though
but i was voting gemma for a lot of the time and didn't even swap to knights. it'd be pretty silly of me cuz fypov all i've done d1 was to bus my teammates without trying to wagon villas in between and not only do i not think normal wolves do that, for me specifically it'd have to mean swapping my entire playstyle. i disagree with benneh because i would probably do a half-assed bus specifically for that point, but i still wouldn't shade 2/4 of my teammates all of d1
Ok, I will go back later and reread the earlier part of day 1 again. That would be a really exciting thing for me to lock in
Does me explaining all this help you get into my head and see things from my pov at least? I feel like I'm trying very hard to be transparent and helpful so others can get a better read on me on this game day.
you didn't have thoughts on stett? the top poster?
your other 2 guesses are understandable, which is why fitting stett there doesn't help
i guess i don't like the fact that, fmpov, the wolves weren't there for EoD and you dip right before you ask about syn / wisdom in what could be easily interpreted as a distancing attempt and then you aren't there when the syn suspicion goes down. coincidences, can be hell, huh
did you just think stett's posts could be posted by any alignment, or?
i mean i get it, but it doesn't help cuz i feel like you haven't read if your guess was that team :laugh4:
your alternate world is actually the one i was exploring d2 a big part of the time and i thought ladd was put in a really rough spot of not knowing whether to bus or defend so he was just like "meh i dont think he is villa but i dont hard push him either". off the top of my head that EoD just doesn't read like one where wolves did anything
Zzz....
@insomnia want some help/input? ( xD )
it's so rough with ladd
here's tha thang. i've done numerous posts on why i think he's a wolf, which, objectively, i just feel are correct. im not sure someone can disagree or fight against it, not even ladd himself. the facts are that he hasn't had a solid push yet past d1, and the ones on d1 were all wrong. the only unflipped we don't know about is gemma
however, he kinda makes up for that by just having really solid villa reads at the right time. i feel like, if anything, this should be the reason he's being villa read, not anything else.
but there's simply something lacking in his play and i think it's that he'd already have a clear direction that we can all see through his pushing. the fact he keeps hammering down on the villa reads instead of pushing for wolves in this spot is also a big grievance of mine, although that maybe is a bit unfair
he's just an amazing player so it's hard to really put it into words beyond just a feeling he's not having the village's interest at heart. he feels really calculated and cunning in his posting, like he's avoiding stepping on eggshells.
now my tinfoil is that, in a ladd wolf world, he's actually a strong PR / KP for them. this would explain his positioning on syn, basically never attempting to defend a teammate that's under heat but he also doesn't want to hard push him because then he'd need an answer for why he's alive. that's why it bugs me why he's only stating village reads and doing no pushing. also, it's really easy and safe to distance from Syn because idt he's ever had a game where he doesn't die early as wolf (no offense). he did all the right things, pocketing newcomb and poking at villas on d1, but this is why i hate he isn't just running a train across his wolf reads.
i guess this is my problem, his posts just don't seem that villagery to me, but positioning wise he just looks good. and i guess it's also a game state type of read where i'd expect him to have some reads and push them rn that he simply isn't concerned with
i feel like he tried to throw small punches at villas all game, pocket certain players and once he got his footing in, he just stuck to villa reading anti-consensus players for cred, because pushing people would be harder or he'd even be forced to bus if we're doing good, maybe. i just really need to see him push people and why
I kinda want to flip ladd now before Wisdom, though I may feel differently if Ladd comes in with a solid bite someone
But like, Maple/Ladd/Wisdom just makes sense to me? And I do feel that Ender can fit in with that group
Yeah I have something insomnia.
let me show u the entire Wisdom progression on ladd here:
(this one is my favorite so i made it bigger)
Here's the thing. I think Wisdom is a wolf who decided to not bus this game (a bird whispered to me once she generally decides pregame if she wants to bus or not and then sticks with it. i have seen this once myself). She is pretty stuck with their solving because of that, she needs to protect her wolfpals which is why her reads have pretty strange focus either on slots that gonna resolve soon anyway like Rask or Maple, or on slots that are pretty much dead-ends to sus into, stetter and me. recently she is kinda distancing from ladd but also still somewhat reluctant on it because she is the one who wants to end up being bussed, not vice versa.
thots? @insomnia
I hope you are a bit wary of the fact that u will get nightkilled next and i will become randomly MLable and i also tend to get lost when i lose my towncore. (a lot have already died and the people remaining start nibbling at my toes.). lmao. (i'll try my best tho no worries)
also, no idea what maple is cooking tbh. he also claims to be potentially pocketed by ladd and is confused by wisdom which is funny af if they are both wolves.
fwiw on the matter IH is that she can be teammed with ladd still and that I still sus her overall worldview yesterday which had Jan/rask at the top and me/gemma/vanta at the bottom. I don't really like the directions they have chosen to go a lot of the game until today
While I suppose I should put in more effort into clearing Gemma, I think that Jan/Rask both at the top of their reads is a discongrous worldview. I like their d3 better, and they are voting Maple now, but Maple is kind of a forced vote and that's not saying much, but uh, maybe I am not reading that last post clearly but that really looks like they are using ladd/maple not w/w to justify shading Gemma, and it kind of does give them space to get back off of Maple and on to Gemma later, but I can't believe that Wisdom thinks wagons today aren't going to be Wisdom/Maple anyway?
If the ladd pocket post had come at any point on day two I would like it a lot, but it doesn't. It's coming on d3 when options are narrowing and ladd is in the crossfires pretty solidily now. And also like, when has ladd pocketed Wisdom? Maybe I've missed something but they've interacted noramlly but infrequently as far as I can recall. Would have to read back for that to evaluate as well
also from what i have seen people are COMPLETELY dropping everyones legacies immediately so you'll also be forgotten the minute ur dead. xD I cant recall anyone ever referring to a legacy (it probably happened once or twice I struggle to be aware of everything).
(which is also kinda a subtle hint to me that dead villa legacies are probs decent).
don't think he did really (at least not recently, I think d1 there was a bit of good attitude from ladd's side at least) but its just the kinda thing wolves say about their wolfbuddy when they decided to change course.
gonna have to leave I need to focus a bit on cooking irl. honestly I have not thought much about the detailed shade they would be doing wrt gemma ngl. I am just seeing a general vibe there wrt ladd.
(I have not caught up and will not be catching up rn. Just about to drive to work.)
@Sunbae
Will you be around about 4 or 5 hours from now?
Was thinking last night in bed about liking your follow on to your 'campaign promises' and woke up feeling like realtiming with you might be best way to get my brain on about you instead of waving flags like an F1 lap announcer.
Pls ping with response. Ty <3
yeah ih, i've read wisdom's posts where before, i'll be honest, i straight up ignored them
Not because i don't like their posts but only because I knew that if I did read them, i'd always come to the conclusion they're a wolf. Mostly because i was skimming all the time on forums and just always thought to myself "how are you supposed to villa read them?" but i really really hate some of the posts that i did end up reading
I guess your point adds up to my tinfoil of ladd being the KP. but in a ladd / maple / wisdom world they're all simply doomed
I think the most odd part is that their turnaround on ladd seems really abrupt
And what do you mean you don't have a reason to think they're pocketing you, if I make that call i have at least one reason why i think they could be a wolf, and based off that i'd deduce they were pocketing me
But if the meta you have is legit then i could see it. Their susses are 0/3 fmpov, it was gemma / vanta and who else? Just doesn't seem like the place to be in right now, but im not some werewolf guru and i could be wrong /shrug
Gemma's iso is really not impressive, but EoD1 is a pretty good look for them as it is
as it stands
Jan / dya probably legit villas imo and are the roles they claim. if arctic is somehow KP that killed sheep and didn't jump in then we just lol at him
Grr is meta very likely villager
Ender is villagery and also claims PR. gonna wifom this line to say he's the inverter role off PoE but it could be someone else hehe
Dolby is just posting villagery for me.
These two people I have as connected: Knights was a strong bop read and I also like that he focuses on jan / ladd and Gemma isn't really as villagery as I've seen of them, but I can't deny EoD1 is good for them. If ladd / wisdom / maple doesn't flip several wolves, then I guess here could be the disconnect and we were living in a "wolves got clapped early and we cleared them without knowing we were wagonning wolves". However, it felt like an EoD where wolves weren't active to me
Benneh / sunbae no real thoughts
Vanta Black I kinda feel like is a villager. As a wolf I think they'd succumb to the pressure that is this game and be really stilted and wolfy
Which leaves
Maple / ladd / wisdom / montmorency
ladd / maple / wisdom are top priority for me. in the ideal world this is 3/3, but probably 2/3. If it's 1/3 then i'd be a little worried
benneh / sunbae probably has 1. this having 2 is probably unlikely
if the above is very wrong, gemma / knights prob has 1 if not 2, but i doubt the above is too wrong
montmorency i need to read
another point against wisdom is that they had a typical progression from a wolf that will n1 newcomb
"blanket of comfort, he vibes really nice, good for you newcomb, wallposts really suck!"
if they are a villager though then I guess good job, but them not elaborating on it is hard to see it as genuine
While I am at it.
Wisdoms progression on Sunbae:
(btw now that i come across this just saying my handling of rask was actually villagery af its clear i was confused about getting my top townread in a CC from someone who shouldnt be a wolf by how the claim went down and then decided to be convinced he is a wolf him after he made the wolfiest post in the entire thread, which shows i have no TMI and read also him exactly like what he was: a serial killer (probably). also makes no sense for me as wolf to push him there cuz if i was a wolf rask is a villa who announced to kill a (likely? dunno) villa tonight).
I have. less to say about this except it also fits the same pattern as with ladd without having a post that struck me as mega pingy. However her tossing sunbae and knights and sunbae and insomnia in bins kinda seems, weird to me as first of all they arent similar at all and second of all it just kinda feels like it's conceiling spew to me. (btw the "knights towny but not unfakeable" rubbed me the wrong in general its kind of half of a vanity thing ig cuz people are obv free to not share every read i make i just didnt like my TR there to be shot down that way.). I dont think Sunbae ever answered Wisdom about prodding about the no-voting and she forgot about it lol (which is also not damning god knows all the shit i forgot to follow up on in this game just a thing i noticed)
can you quote their progression on newcomb?
pretty sure they were "vibing with him" when all he did was to ask sheep 3 questions and not much else
first time wolfing against the village goat just puts wolves in that mode of pocketing him out of hope that they can be overlooked for just 1 day until they can kill him
and with that I monologued enough. not sure im gonna do anything else, you all have the floor
i have an interview in about 10 hours so im slep
I think legacy wise everyone disliked maple (i hope he flips town cuz its funnier then), and everyone but sheep who TRed her didn't like wisdom, very broadly. (Newcomb had her as ???? or something he had other focuses but wasnt TRing her i believe).
Ok yeah I had some slight disgust just reading wisdom's read on newcomb that i might actually case it for you all to see
But that's only 10% likely cuz I CAN'T BE DAMNED
such is the way of the washed
6 words. I need to look at that when I get to a pc.
i dont wanna quote stuff rn cuz its annoying to to so but
shrug, they vibes for much less:
they TR on him or the vibing not an issue to me if im being honest, like obviously a wolf wouldnt scumread newcomb most of the time simply becuz... they would not want the attention (even when they know newcomb would probs townread them for it they'd be SCARED) but. shrug as i said i can see this also just being a whatever read lol. Calling him a comfort blanket felt a little out of place to me cause that didnt really match how people... interacted with him? talked to him? dunno. idk i dont really care so much about that i could just confbias that as "sure makes sense".
my vote isnt final btw im just sending a MESSAGE :curtain:
(spiritual vote on whatever inso is voting, its maple rn but idrc.)
done for today gn.