Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[B-Wing]

vote: Askthepizzaguy

Gonna be out of reach for about 24 hours, but I'd like some work on the upcoming night phase, if anyone has a group I can join (preferably protection).

[Renata]

What I want to know is why Landlubber went to GH with that pm. Why not post it immediately in the thread to save oneself?

Most likely because it all but admits landlubber's own guilt. Which begs the question of why he felt comfortable revealing it to GH.

This isn't exactly a choice between black and white. GH and ATPG are both grabbing for power in their own ways. And landlubber is just plain mafia.

[Frozen In Ice]

AggonyKing: 14 (diana, diamondeye, OTLD, sasaki, chaotix, andres, memnon, fluffyone, herodiclassico, fyremarble, DIY, robbiecon, Daveshack, Kennigit)

Landlubber: 8 (Renata, autolycus, believer, Neri, beskar, lewwyn, Choxorn, whiteeyes)

Chaotix: 7 (peasantphill, GamezRule, Sturmhauke, CecilXIX, jarema, edse, Cahoma)
Sigurd: 5 (fubbleskag, Riedquat, shlin28, guiri, gnarlycharlie)
Askthepizzaguy: 6 (The Stranger, Populus, gibsonsg, Woad, Craterus, B Ray)
Diamondeye: 3 (Visorslash, Frozen in Ice, XehhII)

Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (AggonyKing)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Zack)
Shlin28: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
sturmhauke: 1 (seon)
fluffyone: 1 (secura)

Present: 1 (Camikaze)
Abstain: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Byzantine Knight)

[Scienter]

I think the case against ATPG is better than the one against AggonyKing. For now. Vote:APTG.

[ULC]

Vote: AggonyKing

[landlubber]

Most likely because it all but admits landlubber's own guilt. Which begs the question of why he felt comfortable revealing it to GH.

This isn't exactly a choice between black and white. GH and ATPG are both grabbing for power in their own ways. And landlubber is just plain mafia.
I know I have a lot of explaining to do, but I don't have enough time tonight. I will tell you that, even though it's ridiculously hard to believe, I am absolutely clueless as to how GH got that PM. I didn't send it to him, nor have I sent it to anyone else. The most plausible explanation is that ATPG shared this with his apparent network of scum, and one of them sent it to GH. I'll elaborate more tomroow-- as I said, not enough time tonight.
Either way, despite the fact that ATPG claims to have lynch protection, the most prudent thing for us as a whole unit is to at least attempt to lynch him.
Vote: ATPG.

[Beefy187]

Teehee :curtain:
I'm going to ignore this whole ATPG thing on purpose for now. And I may switch my vote in the very last minute

[Chaotix]

Ahahahahaha.

Oh, this is starting to get interesting, now.

I very much like this, sitting back and watching the show. I've no doubt that there is more going on behind the scenes than GH and ATPG have already told us.

[El Barto]

My record has been expunged; I'm a born-again townie. Leave my past criminal associates out of this!
And your current ones?

FYI, if it wasn't clear, ATPG is scum and should be lynched. He is mafia and is helping to organize all the mafia families. He's essentially doing the reverse of what he did in Capo III.
Go get 'im tiger.

But then the pro town would fall. What would happen? We need to have someone stand up pro-town. Maybe someone dead, with reveled roles?
Hi there.

Most likely because it all but admits landlubber's own guilt. Which begs the question of why he felt comfortable revealing it to GH.

This isn't exactly a choice between black and white. GH and ATPG are both grabbing for power in their own ways. And landlubber is just plain mafia.

unvote: landlubber; vote: AggonyKing
If ATPG can vouch for landlubber's whereabouts than Aggony is a better lynch. I didn't feel like there was too much difference between the strength of their cases anyway.
So, Renata says that atpg is grabbing for power and landlubber is just plain mafia, you say that atpg vouches for landlubber… am I missing something?

Night action groups: Come on, you knew this already.

Whatever your goals, I'm still willing to help achieve them. I get results, after all. And I obviously don't care what you do with the power I help you achieve. It's my pleasure to serve.
Reminds me of a wrinkled, feeble old man screaming 'POWAH! UN-LIMITED POWAH!'.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Regardless what you feel about my motivations, ATPG clearly needs to be put down immediately.

Tell you what, I'll even pull a Pizza. You lynch him now, if he doesn't come out as scum I will personally lead my own lynch parade. I'll make the writeup three times as epic as the Club 30 one.

[scottishranger]

Regardless what you feel about my motivations, ATPG clearly needs to be put down immediately.

Tell you what, I'll even pull a Pizza. You lynch him now, if he doesn't come out as scum I will personally lead my own lynch parade. I'll make the writeup three times as epic as the Club 30 one.

I'm convinced vote atpg

Select gh so I can see the epicness. Sorry Seamus for not having a selection tally but Iv been real busy. Gh has a pretty clear majority methinks

[autolycus]

vote:atpg
select gh

[Populus Romanus]

select: GH

Four more days! Four more days!

[thefluffyone93]

Ahahahahaha.

Oh, this is starting to get interesting, now.

I very much like this, sitting back and watching the show. I've no doubt that there is more going on behind the scenes than GH and ATPG have already told us.

This is probably nuthin but a giant scheme these two came up with while dining on Chinese takeout.
AND I LIKE IT!

Unvote; Vote:ATPG

DOWN WITH THE JERSEY PIZZA

[sturmhauke]

I mentioned before that I was working with vig groups. What I didn't say was that ATPG was the one organizing them. I don't doubt that a lot of other people were as well; I don't know who they all are because there were certainly multiple groups doing different things. I was willing to work with ATPG until I got my rogue detective promotion (I'm halfway there), because he was making things happen, but I never fully trusted him either. I know from the game I ran on Giraffe Boards where I'm from that he's perfectly willing to craft elaborate lies to suit his purpose. In that case it was pro-town, but here I'm not so certain. It seems he's fed many different stories to many different people now. I think this PM I got from him supports the idea that he's looking to screw everyone over:


To the SIX I am helping to become Rogue Detectives: BCC'ed to all.

I will give each of you an alternate identity. You will use this to identify one another should I die.

I want you all to act as one. You will be, collectively, more powerful than any mafia family. You will NOT target one another. I can share the results from each of you with the rest of the group. We will prioritize our targets and move with ruthless efficiency.

Your squadron name will be: Vode's Hand.

Your allies will be code named, in turn:


Vode's Sword
Vode's Wand
Vode's Dagger
Vode's Eyes
Vode's Fist
Vode's Wrath


You will become legendary after this game, and in fact, during it. All of your kills will somehow indicate that you're a member of Vode's Hand.

Where does the name Vode come from?

Reenk Roink's The Settlement mafia game; Vode was the god of wars and foreigners. His servants were the mafia.

Here, you will be the neutral avengers of townies and betrayed gangsters alike. You will dispense harsh, cruel justice onto your enemies.

The time of your promotion to Rogue is soon. Stay alive....

Now I shall give you your code names individually.

In other words, he really did want to create six rogue detectives, but now I think only to form a hit squad answerable to no one but himself. I suspect he would protect us until we became inconvenient to his plans. I would have turned on you sooner or later, ATPG - looks like it's gonna be sooner.

unvote, vote: ATPG

[Memnon]

Unvote,Vote: ATPG, I TRUSTED YOU MAN!!:furious::bigcry::furious2:

[classical_hero]

This is a classic power struggle. Since GH is the director he is using his role to cover himself, since he know that we can't touch him while he is in the role. He is using that as an advantage try and remove a rival. All perfect legal in a game like this, but the fact that so many people are falling for it, is laughable. If GH did this while he was an ordinary citizen, then it would be so much more plausible, but he is using his position of power to try and remove a rival, the fact that he says he will allow himself to die means he is working for someone, s that he is able to take the fall for someone else and it won't hurt them.

[GeneralHankerchief]

An interesting thing to note, sturmhauke, I'm not sure about who else is in your Rogue group, but the name "Vode" refers to the main anti-town role in the game "The Settlement" that was hosted here a few years back. If there isn't anybody who played in that game on your team, I'm sure ATPG would use that as a nice inside joke to himself.

-edit- aaand I just realized that information was already completely divulged in the PM.

[thefluffyone93]

You know what?
After ATPG is lynched, we should go ahead and lynch GH.
Just to be sure.

Besides, a little bit of anarchy never hurt anybody, right?

Right?
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/Applause.gif

[sturmhauke]

I'm not sure about who else is in your Rogue group

I don't know either, I wasn't told. I have some guesses, based on who I worked with on previous nights, but I can't be sure. I won't out them in any case.

[Erebus]

I'd like to let Autolycus know his vote doesn't count because he didn't unvote his previous landlubber vote.

[Montmorency]

Awww ma-a-a-n, I really wish I could have survived for one more turn. Just to get a taste of the post-Day 7 experience.

The day when :daisy: got real. :shame:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Stracchi currently boast a membership of eight, expanding rapidly.

Cunnio are at seven, expanding more slowly but steadily,

Corleone are at 7-9, they lost a member, not sure of all their numbers.

:no::no:

This is exactly what went bad in capo III. There's supposed to be small groups of people plotting and conniving on their own. There has to be room for individual achievement. Why, in a game where 3 detectives went down early, would you help create a 25 person mafia alliance? The excess of organization makes the game less fun.

unvote, vote:atpg

[Beskar]

You know what?
After ATPG is lynched, we should go ahead and lynch GH.
Just to be sure.

Besides, a little bit of anarchy never hurt anybody, right?

Select: thefluffyone93

[ULC]

I call BS on you yet again on GH. I like how I am being basically ignored after saying that if ATPG were mafia, I would be as well. This is totally out of game, not in game - I was siding with ATPG as soon as the game began and was going to work with him. Basically, if ATPG is mafia he has PERSONALLY betrayed me, not betrayed me ingame which I'd expect and would be fine with. However, he asked me to go Rogue Detective for him, indicating to me neutral or town status, instead of pursuing Made Gangster.

[Lewwyn]

Ok GH... If he does get lynched, does he get less annoying or more annoying?

Unvote; Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Time to end this. See ya on the other side.

[Chaotix]

Question:

If there are 25 mafiosi allied with ATPG, do you really expect he will be lynched with only around 10-15 votes on him?

This is not going to fly if you don't get like 30 people on this wagon ASAP. I might support the lynch if you prove to me that it's even possible to do it.

I am not one of those 25, but I have enjoyed the benefits of working with ATPG (as I imagine have 50% of the players in this game). The only reason people are going to lynch him is to prove it's possible; to take him down a peg, so to speak.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I call BS on you yet again on GH. I like how I am being basically ignored after saying that if ATPG were mafia, I would be as well. This is totally out of game, not in game - I was siding with ATPG as soon as the game began and was going to work with him. Basically, if ATPG is mafia he has PERSONALLY betrayed me, not betrayed me ingame which I'd expect and would be fine with. However, he asked me to go Rogue Detective for him, indicating to me neutral or town status, instead of pursuing Made Gangster.

That's all well and good, but there's also the fact that I just don't believe you. :yes:

[Montmorency]

I call BS on you yet again on GH. I like how I am being basically ignored after saying that if ATPG were mafia, I would be as well. This is totally out of game, not in game - I was siding with ATPG as soon as the game began and was going to work with him. Basically, if ATPG is mafia he has PERSONALLY betrayed me, not betrayed me ingame which I'd expect and would be fine with. However, he asked me to go Rogue Detective for him, indicating to me neutral or town status, instead of pursuing Made Gangster.

Being dead I can't be too direct, but it really does seem as though Pizza became to individuals whatever they wanted him to be. He has in fact helped everyone do everything, from advance to rogue to advance to Made. :shrug:

Eh. To be honest, I'm not bright enough to see a loophole in this pre-game pact of yours. Maybe someone else could point it out?

And where is Pizza, anyway? Nothing to say? There are only 10 hours left.

He must be up to something. He does not go quietly.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Chaotix:

There are 25 mafiosi under the impression that ATPG is allied with them. In reality he's planning to betray most of them in the endgame. That's the difference, and that's why this lynch can and needs to happen.

[Montmorency]

Question:

If there are 25 mafiosi allied with ATPG, do you really expect he will be lynched with only around 10-15 votes on him?

This is not going to fly if you don't get like 30 people on this wagon ASAP. I might support the lynch if you prove to me that it's even possible to do it.

I am not one of those 25, but I have enjoyed the benefits of working with ATPG (as I imagine have 50% of the players in this game). The only reason people are going to lynch him is to prove it's possible; to take him down a peg, so to speak.

I interpreted this as a lie. Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in between.

Edit: Oh, yes, and the betrayal thing too.

[Populus Romanus]

Pizza will have to change his user title.:no:

[Chaotix]

Chaotix:

There are 25 mafiosi under the impression that ATPG is allied with them. In reality he's planning to betray most of them in the endgame. That's the difference, and that's why this lynch can and needs to happen.

This is just your spin on it, GH.

The fact is that what you are saying is patently obvious to everyone in that alliance. Three families and one "neutral" can't win Capo together. It just doesn't work that way. What you (deliberately or not) fail to realize is that their alliance is merely one of convenience until they wipe everyone else out. Once that happens, it's a free-for-all and the best family wins. ATPG just has the advantage of being able to pick the winning side. So the families aren't going to care that *surprise* ATPG is planning to betray them, because *surprise* they are all planning to betray each other ANYWAY.

But, let's suppose for a moment what you say is true, and those 6 Rogues were going to pick off all three of those families instead of all the townies. Well then, the town wins with ATPG.

And if neither of those options are what you want, then what DO you want?

Are YOU planning to betray most of the town in the endgame? What makes you a better option?

[classical_hero]

Chaotix:

There are 25 mafiosi under the impression that ATPG is allied with them. In reality he's planning to betray most of them in the endgame. That's the difference, and that's why this lynch can and needs to happen.So basically it is your word against his word.

You seem to know what his plans aere an yet you are not saying what your plans are. If we are t be believed, then you are saying that you are just being noble in this attempt to oust ATPG. But I highly doubt it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

My plans? I want to choose the path that gives me the best combination of a) keeping me alive and b) allowing me to have fun. If that involves betraying people, I'll burn that bridge when I come to it.

[White_eyes:D]

Sasaki and GH have a clear case of.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR3fD5YyN3g

Looks like GH wants to take out the competition early on.:book2:

[ULC]

That's all well and good, but there's also the fact that I just don't believe you. :yes:

Okay then, I'll self WoG to prove my point if I have to. But it's okay if you personally, as a person, think I am lying, because as a person I am telling the truth, and I know that as a fact. I don't like to think you see ATPG as so low to betray me.

[Visor]

Unvote; Vote: AggonyKing

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hello, what's all this then? :bounce:

[Populus Romanus]

Hello, what's all this then? :bounce:Quick, lynch him before he talks us all out of it!

[Choxorn]

I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Something is afoul in the state of New Jersey. Well, more afoul than all the usual things in New Jersey that are afoul. I sense a trap, and maybe there's a Count Dooku, too. Something just seems... a bit off about all of this.

[Sprig]

Ok, lets shake things up. Vote: ATPG

[ULC]

Having talked with ATPG, I redact my statements. However, my vote isn't going to change - I am now just indifferent to the situation.

[Visor]

I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Something is afoul in the state of New Jersey. Well, more afoul than all the usual things in New Jersey that are afoul. I sense a trap, and maybe there's a Count Dooku, too. Something just seems... a bit off about all of this.

Smells like a trap. But ATPG's organising has been useful for people. So... :shrug:

[Nightbringer]

Well, I suppose we'll just have to Vote:ATPG

[Visor]

Well, I suppose we'll just have to Vote:ATPG

:stare:

I'll set my Egyptians onto you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hey loyal troops. It's me, your infamous leader.

It is upsetting to me to see that the Director doesn't seem to fully appreciate your talents. Don't you wonder why no one else will bother to make you a Rogue, Doctor, or Made Gangster?

They don't trust you, guys. They see your future. They know your power will be too strong to control. Fatlings, you must break through the fog of lies the incorruptibles have created around you. Let me help you to know the subtleties of the Force. My mentor taught me everything about the Force . . . even the nature of the dark side.

Fatlings, if one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the townies. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the Force. Be careful of the incorrutibles, Fatlington. Only through me can you achieve a power greater than that of any townie.

The power to become the Don of Dons. The Capo di Tutti Capi.



I know what has been troubling you . . . Listen to me. Don't continue to be a pawn of the Committe of Vigilance! Ever since I've known you, you've been searching for a life greater than that of an ordinary townie. . . a life of significance, of conscience.


Are you going to kill me?

Yes, of course, you should. But you're not sure of the intentions of the FPD, are you? Did you perform a kill..... did you kill in the name of justice?

Then you will scan as guilty or criminal. And the FPD will hunt you down, and then comes the noose.



Don't let them kill me. Use my knowledge of the dark side, and you can save yourself..... from certain death.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Vote: ATPG

Time for the noose, methinks.

CR

[guiri]

Unofficial Vote Count up to #2549


Askthepizzaguy: 19 (Zack, The Stranger, Populus, gibsonsg, Woad, Craterus, B Ray, Scienter, landlubber, scottishranger, thefluffyone, sturmhauke, memnon, sasaki, lewwyn, issaikhaan, Sprig, Nightbringer, CrazedRabbit)

AggonyKing: 13 (diana, diamondeye, OTLD, chaotix, andres, herodiclassico, fyremarble, DIY, robbiecon, Daveshack, Kennight, ULC, Visorslash)
Landlubber: 7 (Renata, autolycus, believer, Neri, beskar, Choxorn, whiteeyes)
Chaotix: 6 (peasantphill, GamezRule, CecilXIX, jarema, edse, Cahoma)
Sigurd: 5 (fubbleskag, Riedquat, shlin28, guiri, gnarlycharlie)
Diamondeye: 2 (Frozen in Ice, XehhII)

Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (AggonyKing)
Shlin28: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
sturmhauke: 1 (seon)
fluffyone: 1 (secura)

Present: 1 (Camikaze)
Abstain: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Byzantine Knight)

[Askthepizzaguy]

2400 Plaza del Universo
Radio City building, Suite 501
Fatlington, New Jersey




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfkU4Moee84




Walkin' tall machine gun man
They spit on me in my home land
Gloria sent me pictures of my boy
Got my pills 'gainst mosquito death
My buddy's breathin' his dyin' breath
Oh god please won't you help me make it through







The Final Countdown with Santino "Saucy" Slice Senior




"Good evening Fatlington. It seems they've taken my son, DJ Saucy slice, and arrested him on some trumped up charges of being a criminal mastermind behind everything that happens in Fatlington.... organizing no less than four mafia families together in alliance, running the La Resistance vigilante group, forming Vode's Hand, creating doctors left and right, and plotting the downfall of the Fatlington Police department AND the FBI of the United States.

Well, let me just say this: That's one crazy story. I don't believe it for a second.


As the General Manager of Radio City Fatlington, I can vouch for my son's innocence in this case. You see, he has a solid alibi. He is the Neutral Avenger, and has been too busy delivering pizzas at night and doing his radio show during the day to operate a scheme of this.... magnitude.

In truth, I must admit that it was me behind it all, not DJ Saucy Slice. The boy is innocent. And the charges against him must be dropped.

I admit that I am a member of the Mafia Commission, sent here to ensure the victory of the Mafia over the innocent townies of Fatlington. On the streets, I am referred to as "The Wolf". It was I who requested the song to play at the Anachronism hour.



Welcome to a city that'll bring you to your knees
It'll make you beg for more, until you can't even breathe
Your blindfold is on tight, but you like what you see
So follow me into the night, cuz I got just what you need
We're all rollin' down the boulevard, full of pimps and sharks
It's a [censored]' riot, we've been dying to start
You better grab a hold cuz now you know you're falling apart
You thought these streets were paved in gold
but they're dirty and dark

Been to hell!
I can show you the devil!
Down you fell
Can't hold yourself together
Soul to sell
Down here you live forever
Welcome to a world where dreams become nightmares!

In the belly of the beast, I'm a wolf amongst sheep
At the bottom of the hill, but at the top of the street
Above the boulevard, schoolyard, victim of deceit
And you're running hard, but this wolf it's always at your feet
Yeah you've seen it all before, but the wolf's outside your door
And you're old enough to run, you ain't hiding anymore
Another victim of the star spangled banner of the street
Now you're in the world of the wolves
And we welcome all you sheep

You need to wake up and face it
So you can taste my reality
Now you're stuck in this place you hate
And you came here so happily
Then it made you lose your faith
And that's what [censored] with your sanity
Say goodbye to your soul and say hello to your vanity
Hollywood is your friend, and the undead are your family
We'll take you to the edge, and turn your regret into agony
And I'll never let you go, cuz I know you'll come back to me
I'm the reason you came here, I'm the American Tragedy

Welcome
Welcome to a world where dreams become nightmares!
Welcome



I have been sending messages to my allies and the town itself. You see, I have been trying to get into contact with the Barzini and the Tataglia for some time, and to convince everyone to become wiseguys, if they knew what was good for em, or Rogue Detectives as well, since they can also become Mades.

A few doctors here and there never hurt anything. It's Surgeons you gotta watch out for. All Doctors are still considered mafia accomplices.

I am the wolf amongst the sheep, I admit it. But I promise you this much, if you touch my son Saucy Slice, you won't live to regret it.

In the meantime, I, Santino Slice Sr, will be taking over as leader of the La Resistance group. Those of you who wish to become rogues, doctors, or wiseguys, will continue under my lead.

Those of you who wish to desert may do so in an orderly fashion, sending me a letter of resignation. No harm shall befall you for making this honorable choice.

It is only those who make false promises who will taste the wrath of Santino. Like Director General Hankerchump.


We could have been mates, him and me. But that's all gone now.


Arrivaderci, sneeze rag. For your days as Director are numbered, and once you're out of that chair, it will belong to me, as will your head.



I give you the kiss of death. Smooches, sugar pie. Good night, and good luck. :wink:





If you would like to join the mafia families of Fatlington, or wish to be considered neutral in the matter, contact General Manager Santino Slice at 1-855-DJ-SLICE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=23872). This is the wisest move you can make, I assure you. If you wish to remain a townie, then I urge you to consider doing protection groups only. It is how you can remain alive without interfering with the family business.

If you step out of line and perform an unauthorized vigilante kill, you will never be considered mafia material, and you will die as a salt of the earth Fatling, having won no battles, achieving no glory, and will be buried in an unmarked grave at the bottom of the river.



Sincerely yours, Santino."



~:pimp:

[Cahoma]

Not that it matters anymore, but Unvote; Vote: ATPG

[GeneralHankerchief]

Look at me, I'm quaking in my little Director's boots.

[BillMc]

RL death in the family, I'll be pretty much afk for the rest of this week.

Vote: Abstain
for the rest of this calendar week.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look at me, I'm quaking in my little Director's boots.

Goooood..... you should be.


YOU

SHOULD

BE




Red Pill Count: 7
Blue Pill Count: 0

[sturmhauke]

Sorry to hear that Bill, take care.

[Jarema]

I wake up today... and... what I see?
That I am late to the great party of hanging!

Anyway, unvote; vote:ATPG altough it is meaningless now

Thanks for a note, GH!

[Diamondeye]

Teehee :curtain:

:love: Beefy! :curtain:
What's the timer says?

[Montmorency]

The FPD defends this town, not to protect these stones, but the townies living within these walls.

The town must prevail!

[Askthepizzaguy]

The FPD defends this town, not to protect these stones, but the townies living within these walls.

The town must prevail!

The town will prevail, as Made Gangsters.

Why rely on the police? They can't save you. A tommy gun and a gang of like-minded thugs can.

The police can't be there to protect you 24/7, but the Family can. The Family actually cares.

The suffering of the innocent compels me to take a stand. We don't need to be victims of violence. We can be the perpetrators!

[GeneralHankerchief]

The town will prevail, as Made Gangsters.

Why rely on the police? They can't save you. A tommy gun and a gang of like-minded thugs can.

The police can't be there to protect you 24/7, but the Family can. The Family actually cares.

The suffering of the innocent compels me to take a stand. We don't need to be victims of violence. We can be the perpetrators!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8I9pYCl9AQ

[Diana Abnoba]

OMG!!!! WT:daisy:!!!!

Okay this all smells like a set up to me (both GH and ATPG are in together), but just to be on the safe side; Unvote; Vote ATPG, because you can never be sure of him, ever!

Unselect: GH (you need to be watched as well, very closely).

[Askthepizzaguy]

OMG!!!! WT:daisy:!!!!

Okay this all smells like a set up to me (both GH and ATPG are in together), but just to be on the safe side; Unvote; Vote ATPG, because you can never be sure of him, ever!

Unselect: GH (you need to be watched as well, very closely).


Et tu, Abnoba?


I could understand Corporal Capeman over here not siding with me, he's been sneezed on for far too long to ever trust anyone, but thou?

Thou art my heart, my body, and my very soul.... you set my night ablaze like no other.... Anju and Kafei still exist, within my dreams.

Dearest Abnoba, I prithee take thy knife from my chest, and let me die alone, suffering not from the pain of thy blade, but thy intent.

Fare thee well, long lost love! I shall remember you to the last, always with fondness in my heart.

Goodbye my darling one. Beware snakes in General's clothing.

[Diana Abnoba]

OOC

So sorry to hear that news Bill, take care of yourself and your family.

[GeneralHankerchief]

OOC

So sorry to hear that news Bill, take care of yourself and your family.

Seconded, real family matters trump fake Family matters ten times out of ten. My condolences, man. :bow:

[Visor]

RL death in the family, I'll be pretty much afk for the rest of this week.

Vote: Abstain
for the rest of this calendar week.

Sorry to hear that.

[Diana Abnoba]

Et tu, Abnoba?


I could understand Corporal Capeman over here not siding with me, he's been sneezed on for far too long to ever trust anyone, but thou?

Thou art my heart, my body, and my very soul.... you set my night ablaze like no other.... Anju and Kafei still exist, within my dreams.

Dearest Abnoba, I prithee take thy knife from my chest, and let me die alone, suffering not from the pain of thy blade, but thy intent.

Fare thee well, long lost love! I shall remember you to the last, always with fondness in my heart.

Goodbye my darling one. Beware snakes in General's clothing.



And I shall remember you with fondness, my love, as you hang by your neck and die. But alas, not to worry about me, my love, I am aware of snakes in General's clothing (as stated in my previous post), along with snakes in other clothing, as well. A final kiss goodbye then:kiss:

[sturmhauke]

How romantic. :inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

A final kiss goodbye then:kiss:


Ah, yes, Diana.... the TRUE kiss of death.

But the sweetest kiss of them all. Thank you for this final gift, my love... :heart:

[Monk]

Your overconfidence is your weakness, ATPG.

On the first night of this terrible storm you were attacked. Out of true concern i offered you my services.. but it seems I misjudged you. Fortunately for me, you also misjudged me as well. I will not abide the creation of killers to bolster the ranks of the 'Mafia', and though this action may be enough to earn the ire of those who once ignored me, i feel I cannot stay silent.

Just a few short moments ago, a letter went out to many in this town detailing PizzaGuy's plans. He was informing his inner circle of the fact he was mafia, and offering them the chance to "join him" by taking the red pill. But he made a fatal mistake.. you see Pizza, in your haste to set your affairs in order before your untimely death you have revealed your entire network.. or at least, the 'trustworthy'.

Perhaps this is a ploy to further test my loyalty, but seeing as the letter i recieved was post marked with ALL of these names upon it, i can hardly see it as such. They all recieved this same letter, of that I am sure, and as such can never be trusted by those faithful to the cause of the town again.

Listen to me, brothers and sisters, i beg you - the names on this list CANNOT be trusted as they are all apart of Pizzaguy's inner circle.

Ironside
issaikhaan
Jarema
Johhog
Jolt
Kennigit
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
LazyMcCrow
Lewwyn
Memnon
Neri
Nightbringer
Niklas
Oh! TheLastDays!


Hello.

Firstly, it is true. I'm mafia, and The Wolf.

I win with whichever family wins. The long, elaborate plans I sent GH and others were to sniff out leaks and see who could be trusted.

Obviously, GH cannot. But you guys have been with me since the beginning, most of you, and you're loyal Fatlings.

We will continue to make mades, wiseguys, rogues, and other goodies. No need for you to remain townie any longer. Stick with me, and I will show you lols you've never before seen.

If you are a doctor, the path is longer back to where you belong, but you won't be turned away. Go wiseguy ASAP, or offer to protect some gangsters. Your choice.

You can also just protect each other, I won't take offense.



In case you're wondering, I still have the full support of the mafia and most everyone I've spoken to who had been working with me prior. You're among friends.

It was I who allowed GH to make this attack upon me, but I assure you, we are quite safe from his pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best gangsters awaits him.

Oh.... and I'm afraid that the protection shield around me will be QUITE operational when his vigilantes arrive....

Best bet for the Director would be to try to escape Fatlington altogether, but as he will soon find out, there is only one way out; in a body bag.

I know you're more interested in victory than siding with this fool. :bow: Lend me your support, and I will lend you mine.



And for those of you concerned Oh, Pizza has too much power, whine whine. Yeah, well I was only planning on leading this little effort until you all achieved the goals/roles you desired. After that, since I have little vested interest in the outcome, please by all means form your own gangs, go independent, start a war.... it's all in good fun.

I intend to retire as Director, keeping a watchful eye on all my mafia and mafia-affiliated children.


Together, we can bring peace and prosperity to New Jersey. Or, failing that, lots of cash and booze.



I may send you individual PMs momentarily. Just got off a long, troubling shift at work, and going off to meet the girlfriend, and somethings are just more important than this game, HOWEVER!

I will send out group actions and get as many of you recruited mafia as possible, before the end of night.


PLEASE PM ME BACK:

Opt-out: You take the blue pill, and you stay in wonderland, with GH and his silly dreams of being townie.

Opt-in: You take the red pill, and I show you the true nature of the dark side.

Send me nothing, and you can consider yourself a target. No offense.

With love,

The Mafia.

None of them have taken the blue pill, he has revealed at least 7 of which have taken the red. I cannot support this. I will NOT see this town destroyed for their greed. Long live the Town. Long live the Directer!

Be vigilant for me, Fatlingtons.. i fear I shall not survive another night.


Vote: Abstain

[Askthepizzaguy]

Red Pill count: 12
Blue Pill count: 1

And if you think it's propaganda, by all means wait and see what happens tonight.

When the groups still do as I ask, it will be obvious you guys all took the red pill. Except mister skeptical, who I still have to convince.

:bow:

Director Hank, surely you didn't think YOU were in charge of Fatlington? You're nothing more than a figurehead that managed to get re-elected over and over due to the Family's support.

That support disappears, and then you do.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Your overconfidence is your weakness, ATPG.

Your faith in your friends is yours.


Listen to me, brothers and sisters, i beg you - the names on this list CANNOT be trusted as they are all apart of Pizzaguy's inner circle.

Ironside
issaikhaan
Jarema
Johhog
Jolt
Kennigit
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
LazyMcCrow
Lewwyn
Memnon
Neri
Nightbringer
Niklas
Oh! TheLastDays!



None of them have taken the blue pill, he has revealed at least 7 of which have taken the red. I cannot support this. I will NOT see this town destroyed for their greed. Long live the Town. Long live the Directer!

Be vigilant for me, Fatlingtons.. i fear I shall not survive another night.


Vote: Abstain

ROFLCOPTER

My goodness, in alphabetical order, approximately the number that matches the PM limit. [Admittedly, the middle part was smaller than the end pieces]

Could it be a snippet of the entire town I sent it to?

Or does the entire town literally support me?

And why can't it be both? :laugh4:

Silly Monk. You go squish now.

[Sprig]

Your overconfidence is your weakness, ATPG.

On the first night of this terrible storm you were attacked. Out of true concern i offered you my services.. but it seems I misjudged you. Fortunately for me, you also misjudged me as well. I will not abide the creation of killers to bolster the ranks of the 'Mafia', and though this action may be enough to earn the ire of those who once ignored me, i feel I cannot stay silent.

Just a few short moments ago, a letter went out to many in this town detailing PizzaGuy's plans. He was informing his inner circle of the fact he was mafia, and offering them the chance to "join him" by taking the red pill. But he made a fatal mistake.. you see Pizza, in your haste to set your affairs in order before your untimely death you have revealed your entire network.. or at least, the 'trustworthy'.

Perhaps this is a ploy to further test my loyalty, but seeing as the letter i recieved was post marked with ALL of these names upon it, i can hardly see it as such. They all recieved this same letter, of that I am sure, and as such can never be trusted by those faithful to the cause of the town again.

Listen to me, brothers and sisters, i beg you - the names on this list CANNOT be trusted as they are all apart of Pizzaguy's inner circle.

Ironside
issaikhaan
Jarema
Johhog
Jolt
Kennigit
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
LazyMcCrow
Lewwyn
Memnon
Neri
Nightbringer
Niklas
Oh! TheLastDays!


Alphabetical Order. Nice !

EDIT: Beaten by ATPG.

[TheLastDays]

Can snakes wear clothing?

Now bear with me for a moment before I'm off to class:

I sense "it makes no sense" around the General's corner. What is his plan after today?

Go Mafia? Well, after today, no family will ever trust him again just for the fact that he might out them the same way he outed Pizza today.
Stay Town? Slightly possible, only that he stated himseld that it's unlikely.

So, what's left? Are you an original Don, General? Because they'd be the ones who might want to get rid of the Wolf the most. Or are you planning your own up and coming Mafia family? My trust for you has been tainted.

unselect: GH

[Montmorency]

17-person inner circle? Wat.
By the way, what's the timestamp on that? In EST?

[GeneralHankerchief]

You know the funny thing, ATPG? This entire game, you're the one that's been bragging about your position.

Remember before this round, how you were persistently saying you were scanned and cleared by both the FPD and FBI? Yeah, they were dead silent on that issue. Wonder why.

And now you hide behind your facade of strength once again. I'll trust that red/blue pill count thing a lot more once it comes from someone besides yourself.

You're all talk and no action.

[Monk]

Hey, either I mess up and get squished and killed, or i got something. Figured it was worth the risk and added some silly flare. :wink:

I really underestimated how much work keeping up with this is, i haven't been following for weeks.

[Montmorency]

Or perhaps GH is the 5th Don. But the Pizza threat has grown too great. GH is not so strong as Pizza - if the latter can be defeated, then so can the former.

Sic semper scumanis.

[Visor]

This whole day....

:inquisitive: :dizzy2:

I don't even know anymore. My personality leads me to respect ATPG's ballsy actions though. :laugh4:

Unvote; Vote: Abstain

I will have no more voting say in this farce.

Select: Thefluffyone

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know the funny thing, ATPG? This entire game, you're the one that's been bragging about your position.

Remember before this round, how you were persistently saying you were scanned and cleared by both the FPD and FBI? Yeah, they were dead silent on that issue. Wonder why.

And now you hide behind your facade of strength once again. I'll trust that red/blue pill count thing a lot more once it comes from someone besides yourself.

You're all talk and no action.

Psychonaut is FPD; he scanned me three times. That's why he's injured in the first place. Sorry Psychonaut, but you'd have to scan me a few more times to penetrate the wiseguy cover role. OBVIOUSLY not affiliated with the families, because I can't really join any of them.

Believer is FBI, and his scanner who can scan for guilt instead of commies scanned me, and I've also been cleared of commie-nism.

They're dead silent because they're a little gun shy. You know, gangsters have guns and want them dead. Not so much, I mean they're hardly a threat to me.


And GH, I've got more action than you'll ever get. Being a gangster has its..... privileges. :eyebrows:

[Death is yonder]

Well what an unusual surprise to be coming back to. Haven't looked through everything, probably won't be able to as of now but clearly one course of action must be taken.

Unvote: AggonyKing
Vote: ATPG

[GeneralHankerchief]

Those of you who question my motivations, keep in mind that if you don't trust me the best way to keep an eye on me is to keep me in the Director's seat. Since the Director can't do anything at night, you have me essentially handicapped.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, trying to bring me down via scans?

Seriously?

Come on, I did fake hits for 6 rounds for a reason. I wanted to waste your scans and make you see nothing of importance.

Couldn't you guys tell from my obviously, glaringly scummy behavior? Why did you need a scan? I mean, I posted a link to "PM askthepizzaguy" if any gangster wanted to be interviewed. Hello? Contact all the mafia families?

I cannot believe it took 7 rounds to out me given the behavior I've displayed this game. This town OBVIOUSLY doesn't want to stay innocent, because I refuse to believe that Tincow is the only one who actually is thinking about who the scum are. It means only one thing: The FPD/incorruptibles are all screwed.



You had to use your crutch again.... why doesn't anyone try analyzing thread behavior anymore.... see signature line.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Quit the psych-warfare tactics and die already, they're not working on anybody. :hanged:

[Montmorency]

Those of you who question my motivations, keep in mind that if you don't trust me the best way to keep an eye on me is to keep me in the Director's seat. Since the Director can't do anything at night, you have me essentially handicapped.

That's the same argument Pizza used (with nightly attacks)...


I cannot believe it took 7 rounds to out me given the behavior I've displayed this game. This town OBVIOUSLY doesn't want to stay innocent, because I refuse to believe that Tincow is the only one who actually is thinking about who the scum are. It means only one thing: The FPD/incorruptibles are all screwed.

I thought I could use you. Now I know better. :shame:

No coincidence, was it?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I thought I could use you. Now I know better. :shame:

No coincidence, was it?

It was I who asked for you to be lynched. Nothing personal, it's just business. :smoking:

Nobody even asked why. They just did it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Quit the psych-warfare tactics and die already, they're not working on anybody. :hanged:

You still can't read me, GH.

Can't tell if I'm bluffing or if I have the cards. Work on that. :wink:

[Ishmael]

Is it just me that's predicting a spectacularly messy death tonight?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is it just me that's predicting a spectacularly messy death tonight?

It had better be! Come on, GH, give me something spectacu-licious. I deserve that much. I've earned it.

[Ishmael]

Also ATPG, you're going to have to change that title thingy above your name :yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also ATPG, you're going to have to change that title thingy above your name :yes:

It would appear so.

But then again, maybe I like the title "Darth Sidious" better.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ahhh.... that's better. :2thumbsup:


<------VERY trustworthy face.

[Monk]

But then again, maybe I like the title "Darth Sidious" better.

Stop calling him that. He's the Emprah, nothing else. Nothing else! :stare: *puts hands in ears, screaming something about it not happening*

[Askthepizzaguy]

Become selected Chancellor of Fatlington? Sure, thanks for the nomination Monk.

I assure you, I'll be a stronger Chancellor than Vallorum over here...

[Believer]

Unselect; GH
Select: Abstain

Unvote;
Vote: ATPG

My heart can not live lonely
My heart craves the sun
My heart can not grow stronger
Without our blessings sung
My heart needs friendship true
My heart wants friendship special
With no one else but you.

ATPG, you will live forever in my memory. Much wubz.

[DELETE_THIS]

I come to vote:ATPG

[Visor]

You're dead.

[The Stranger]

***Warning: Long, important post ahead***

Nice post, ATPG. But here's where you go wrong: It's a lot easier to level accusations at you when it comes straight from the horse's mouth.

A few of you have probably been asking what I've been doing as Director. Well, here it is. Several nights ago I got approached by an anonymous source who told me that he wanted protection on him for the night and that ATPG was Luca Cunnio. After some nice efforts by a few people, I've concluded that ATPG is likely Cunnio, and most definitely scum. But not is he only scum, he's also the type of scum that betrays his own kind.

What follows is the culmination of a long series of PM conversations between the two of us.



His reply:



Town, you should vote for ATPG because he's scum. Scum, you should vote for ATPG because his plan is to betray you in the endgame for himself.

But, you say, what if it's all a ploy? Even if he's lying about this, what's the motive? Would it be any better if he was, say, The Wolf?

He claims Cunnio to me. Then, in an arrangement with our potential lynch target of the day, landlubber, he claims another equally sinister role:



The Wolf, for the unitiated, was a role in Capo I that had an alternate victory condition of betraying the Dons and becoming Capo di Tutti Capi. There was a similar role in Capo II, The Shadow, that had an alternate victory condition of betraying the Dons and becoming Capo di Tutti Capi.

So, to sum it up, Askthepizzaguy is claiming different roles to different people, all of them scum roles. He is mafia, he is out for himself, and he is not to be trusted. The time to lynch him is now.

i havent read the thread, i am not going to object to his lynch but however I am going to object to this last WOLF part. which is utter bs. There is no wolf in Capo. Seamus has dropped the role and it is never coming back because the role was a fail.

[Sigurd]

i havent read the thread, i am not going to object to his lynch but however I am going to object to this last WOLF part. which is utter bs. There is no wolf in Capo. Seamus has dropped the role and it is never coming back because the role was a fail.
Dropped after 3 games? The name of the role might be different, but it is the same role.
Sasaki had it in Capo I, you had it in Capo II and I had it in Capo III. Why not in this game?

[Sigurd]

The way I see it, GH just want ATPG's position.
The wolf role wins if Mafia wins. And this is Capo de Tutti Capi afterall :sneaky: ... which means GH either doesn't believe that ATPG is the commission representative or are trying to build a townie cred, for what its worth (which isn't much in this game).

[The Stranger]

Dropped after 3 games? The name of the role might be different, but it is the same role.
Sasaki had it in Capo I, you had it in Capo II and I had it in Capo III. Why not in this game?

you are completely wrong. it was only in capo 1 not in 2 for sure, dunno bout 3 tho. ugh i was sure i got that rolepm from capo1 somewhere but cant find it. ...

and i never got any other role than townie in capo.

anyway GH is also screwing with the Wolf role because the Wolf isnt about becoming don and Capo of all Capis but about chosing the right alliance.


The way I see it, GH just want ATPG's position.
The wolf role wins if Mafia wins. And this is Capo de Tutti Capi afterall ... which means GH either doesn't believe that ATPG is the commission representative or are trying to build a townie cred, for what its worth (which isn't much in this game).

GH is going to step down. And GH has done nothing all game except suddenly bring down Pizza for whom he was supposed to step down, that was the deal between the two of them. Pizzas support would get GH in power for as long as it would take Pizza to do whatever he need to do and then GH would step down. it seems like GH doesnt want to step down in the end and now stabs pizza in the back. WE DONT NEED A BACKSTABBING AND LAZY DIRECTOR.

[The Stranger]

ATPG:26 (believer, memnon, sturmhauke, fluffyone, autolycus, Bray, TS, Zack, Populus, gibsonsg, woad, craterus, scienter, landlubber, scottishranger, sasaki, lewwyn, issaikhan, sprig, nightbringer, CR, cahoma, jarema, diana, DIY, nictel)

AggonyKing: 10 (kennigit, diamondeye, OTLD, chaotix, andres, herodiclassico, fyremarble, robbiecon, daveshack, ULC)

Landlubber: 5 (Renata, Neri, beskar, Choxorn, whiteeyes)

Chaotix: 4 (peasantphill, GamezRule, CecilXIX, edse)
Sigurd: 5 (fubbleskag, Riedquat, shlin28, guiri, gnarlycharlie)
Diamondeye: 2 (Frozen in Ice, XehhII)

Shlin28: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
sturmhauke: 1 (seon)
fluffyone: 1 (secura)

Present: 1 (Camikaze)
Abstain: 3 (Ibn-Khaldun, BK, billmc, monk, visorslash)

[The Stranger]

GH SHOULD DIE...

SELECT: TS FOR PRESIDENT!!!

[Jarema]

@ ATPG

I do NOT believe you are the Wolf.
Come on, from entire town, more than 100 people, YOU, who get scanned ten times every night one, get such a role that you can screw all scans???
Either you are bluffing, or host was not assigning roles randomly :rolleyes:

[Ironside]

This was unexpected. :inquisitive:

Vote: ATPG

Too late to make it a double lynch with landlubber.

I'll be surprised if ATPG isn't protected by this mob lawyer, since ATPG pretty much outed himself, so the unless there's a double lynch, we won't get anyone lynched today. Should be funny to see the look on ATPG though, if my guess is wrong and he can be lynched.


GH, the obvious follow up question for you is, did you accept ATPG:s Dooku offer?

Select: Abstain

[Renata]

This was unexpected. :inquisitive:

Vote: ATPG

Too late to make it a double lynch with landlubber.

I'll be surprised if ATPG isn't protected by this mob lawyer, since ATPG pretty much outed himself, so the unless there's a double lynch, we won't get anyone lynched today.

*nod* And thank you for not forgetting the other scum in this equation.

Good times.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ ATPG

I do NOT believe you are the Wolf.
Come on, from entire town, more than 100 people, YOU, who get scanned ten times every night one, get such a role that you can screw all scans???
Either you are bluffing, or host was not assigning roles randomly :rolleyes:

I'm Askthepizzaguy. I never bluff. :sneaky:

[Death is yonder]

Well... reading the entire thread has been somewhat illuminating.

Clearly we stand in a convoluted mess. Its somewhat striking that GH says he would retire, with this as his last term, but now says that:


Regardless what you feel about my motivations, ATPG clearly needs to be put down immediately.

Tell you what, I'll even pull a Pizza. You lynch him now, if he doesn't come out as scum I will personally lead my own lynch parade. I'll make the writeup three times as epic as the Club 30 one.

This would mean to keep him in the position till pizza's post-mortem, which means at least two more phases in the directorship, strongly contrary to what he previously stated.

Still, Pizza by his own admission is organizing both the town and the mafia, which is pretty scary in a way.

The only question is as to: What are we witnessing right now? A power struggle? A battle for supremacy? Or perhaps as the good director himself claims, an anti scum crusade. I remain very curious that ATPG came out to respond to Tincow's post inquiring about the mafia alliance with plenty of hours on the clock. He must have known that this would happen. That perhaps, is a mystery reserved for Seamus' commentary.

[LazyMcCrow]

GH SHOULD DIE...

SELECT: TS FOR PRESIDENT!!!

vote: present ....though barely
and select: TheStranger - and while I know this is a redundant move today, I think some fresh blood in the directors chair would help matters immensely.

[Visor]

It's been a weird day. :confused:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Still, Pizza by his own admission is organizing both the town and the mafia, which is pretty scary in a way.

OOC: People want to enjoy the game but not all of them have the know-how, time, or energy to organize things, especially new players and folks new to Capo-style games. And if I'm going to make a beastly mafia alliance, having nothing for them to fight against would make the game pretty boring. I meant it when I said I wouldn't turn anyone away who needed help, even given my current role. The vast majority of remaining protown roles owe their abilities to my training efforts. They may now fight against the mafia with actual teeth. It's more sporting that way.

[Riedquat]

Pff... I still have like 6 pages to read...

I choose the blue pill Pizza! :stare:

Unvote: Sigurd; vote: Atpg

[TinCow]

What are we witnessing right now? A power struggle? A battle for supremacy? Or perhaps as the good director himself claims, an anti scum crusade. I remain very curious that ATPG came out to respond to Tincow's post inquiring about the mafia alliance with plenty of hours on the clock. He must have known that this would happen. That perhaps, is a mystery reserved for Seamus' commentary.

You're witnessing ATPG's plans falling foul of one of the risks he knew was possible. He clearly was not interested in hiding what he was doing, given the sheer scale of the information he was spreading about. He was likely gambling that he'd be kept around for convenience and public entertainment value until a point when his mafia alliance was sufficiently strong that they wouldn't be afraid of public exposure by assisting him. That's a big gamble though and it didn't work out this time, as information was passed on to both pro-town players and mafia players who weren't too keen on the amount of power he was accumulating. Even though the mafia is already crushing the town, it's too early for them to feel comfortable being publicly exposed, so it's hard for them to avoid voting for ATPG. Plus, at least two of the mafia families have been wary of ATPG for a while now anyway and are taking advantage of this opportunity to dispose of a competitor. It was a good strategy though and ATPG should be commended for it. Timidity does not win Capo and power grabs like this are what make the game fun.

[autolycus]

I'd like to let Autolycus know his vote doesn't count because he didn't unvote his previous landlubber vote.
Thank you unvote: landlubber vote:askthepizzaguy

[Clitsome]

uhh, ok..

Vote: ATPG

Unselect; Select: Thefluffyone

[ByzantineKnight]

Unvote; Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[BSmith]

Still catching up from the weekend – not sure if I’ll be through in time to vote in time, so vote: Abstain for now.

[God Emperor]

Visorslash :laugh4: If ATPG wasn't still alive I would say you are the most scummiest person in the game !

Select: Fluffy I agree with his politics.

[Riedquat]

Still catching up from the weekend – not sure if I’ll be through in time to vote in time, so vote: Abstain for now.

Going for the red pill? :stare:

[LazyMcCrow]

Going for the red pill? :stare:
Well to be fair - the blue ones are a bit mouthwash-ey, so I ate the red one too to cancel out the flavour. I'm a bit dizzy now, but really looking forward to seeing what lynch-dodging powers the Neutral Avenger can muster :)

[Niklas]

It obviously won't matter one way or the other, but vote: ATPG just to hide in the bandwagon. :clown:

[Frozen In Ice]

I still am wary of what appears to be a power struggle between GH and ATPG, but I will unvote, vote: ATPG and pray that this actually works.

[scotchedpommes]

Select: The Stranger
Vote: Abstain

[Sasaki Kojiro]

This is the wisest move you can make, I assure you. If you wish to remain a townie, then I urge you to consider doing protection groups only. It is how you can remain alive without interfering with the family business.

If you step out of line and perform an unauthorized vigilante kill, you will never be considered mafia material, and you will die as a salt of the earth Fatling, having won no battles, achieving no glory, and will be buried in an unmarked grave at the bottom of the river.

I think most people will take this the opposite way it was intended :laugh4:

At least we moved away from "which of the people posting votes without anything else is most likely mafia" to something with more substance. And there's a clear "cool" side in the game now (the town).

[Johhog]

VOTE: Askthepizzaguy

Seems to be the obvious choice today.

[Cahoma]

Blue pill, red pill, doesn't matter. They're all roofies anyway.

Day seven is over! Time to see what happens.

[White_eyes:D]

I think most people will take this the opposite way it was intended :laugh4:

At least we moved away from "which of the people posting votes without anything else is most likely mafia" to something with more substance. And there's a clear "cool" side in the game now (the town).Let me guess...Sasaki "The Glory Hound" Kojiro is going to join them?:stare:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

“I could keep on running down
I could keep on cheating death and yet somehow
It all ends up the same
And i don’t want to be the one who’s blamed

Can you see that i don’t really have a choice at all
If only for a taste flight
I’d gladly take the fall"

…Wait Forever
…Gary Valeciano


9:33PM Friday 4 November 1951
The Executive Meeting Room (Small Ballroom)
Fatlington Convention Center
Fatlington, New Jersey



It had been a very long Committee session. GH’s re-selection had been the quickest and easiest part of the discussion. Even a week into the newest mafia threat to Fatlington, the sessions all seemed to meld together and get longer, but this one particularly stood out. Some of the more religious seemed to be comparing the meeting's length to when God refused to allow the sun to set so that Joshua may conquer Jericho. Director Hankerchief wouldn't have gone quite that far, but it definitely seemed more apparent that the session was somewhat longer than usual.

As for the content of the session, everything seemed normal until a little bit over halfway through. Then Director Hankerchief, mostly distant from the Committee for the past week, finally came down from high and demanded attention. The confused Committee had no other real option than to give it to him. "Attention everyone," he said, "I have in my hands documented evidence that Askthepizzaguy is in fact a mafioso." The Director paused, thumping a large stack of papers down on the table while he waited for the Committee to make its inevitable audible gasp. "Not only that - *thump* - but he's crafting a multi-family alliance." Another gasp. "Not only that, but he's planning to betray those families and rule Fatlington personally as Capo di Tutti Capi." Still another gasp. "Not only that, but even if you don't believe all that then you can't disbelieve *more* evidence that says he's in league with the Mafia Commission itself!" Another thump, followed by the loudest gasp of all – and by a cascade of shouted votes calling for pizza’s death.

Everyone turned to Pizzaguy, who rose from his chair, smiling sadly. After about ten seconds' worth of silence, he smiled. "You are mistaken Director," he said, "My death would be a grave mistake for the future of Fatlington. If you strike me down, I would become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. I beg you all to reconsider."

“The committee has spoken,” said Hankerchief, “I am but their servant.”

As GH gestured to his guard and his amazons to take charge of Askthepizzaguy, a weedy-looking man burst into the ballroom and shouted at the assembled committee.

“Stop! I have a special missive from the governor. You are directed NOT to lynch Askthepizzaguy, but to call the session to a close.”

The committee sat back in their chairs, stunned. Director GH waved the little gnome of a man forward and grabbed the message the little fellow held in his hands. He read it and re-read it, shaking his head slowly.

“It would seem that this is in order. Someone on the committee – unnamed here – has prevailed upon our Governor to issue a stay of any execution of Askthepizzaguy today. It bears the governors signature and seal, and has the coded phrases necessary for this day as left for me in the director’s notes. I have no choice but to conclude today’s session without lynching anyone, as our chosen candidate’s death has been annulled.”

“Excellent. This obviates you all of a sad mistake,” said Pizza, “now if you will kindly excuse me I have a show to broadcast. I feel….inspired.”

One sharp and…petulant?...rap of the gavel by GH later and the session was closed. Another night had come to Fatlington.



OOC

Orders (active and passive separate please) for Night 6 are due no later than:
.

Lynch Vote Tally: NO LYNCH OCCURRED

ATPG:31 (believer, memnon, sturmhauke, fluffyone, autolycus, Bray, TS, Zack, Populus, gibsonsg, woad, craterus, scienter, landlubber, scottishranger, sasaki, lewwyn, issaikhan, sprig, nightbringer, CR, cahoma, jarema, diana, DIY, nictel, Ironside, riedquat, autolycus, clitsome, johhog)

AggonyKing: 10 (kennigit, diamondeye, OTLD, chaotix, andres, herodiclassico, fyremarble, robbiecon, daveshack, ULC)

Landlubber: 5 (Renata, Neri, beskar, Choxorn, whiteeyes)

Chaotix: 4 (peasantphill, GamezRule, CecilXIX, edse)

Sigurd: 4 (fubbleskag, shlin28, guiri, gnarlycharlie)

Diamondeye: 2 (Frozen in Ice, XehhII)

Shlin28: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
sturmhauke: 1 (seon)
fluffyone: 1 (secura)

Present: 2 (Camikaze, LazyMcCrow)

Abstain: 6 (Ibn-Khaldun, BSmith, billmc, monk, visorslash, skotsko)

Dead but voting: 1 (ByzantineKnight)

Selection Tally

GH = many (wins one more term)

Fluffy/The Stranger = some

[Seamus Fermanagh]

A number of questions on the queue to answer. Will do so but not for next 3-4 hours. Otherwise, things on schedule.

Enjoy.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

FORCE BREATH ALL OVER AGAIN

[Askthepizzaguy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_JcUEqaFd4



POWER!!!!!
UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!

[Cahoma]

Must say, kinda saw this coming.

[The Stranger]

then why did u still vote for him and waste a lynch -_-

[Askthepizzaguy]

You're witnessing ATPG's plans falling foul of one of the risks he knew was possible. He clearly was not interested in hiding what he was doing, given the sheer scale of the information he was spreading about. He was likely gambling that he'd be kept around for convenience and public entertainment value until a point when his mafia alliance was sufficiently strong that they wouldn't be afraid of public exposure by assisting him. That's a big gamble though and it didn't work out this time

Young fool. only now, at the end, do you understand....



as information was passed on to both pro-town players and mafia players who weren't too keen on the amount of power he was accumulating. Even though the mafia is already crushing the town, it's too early for them to feel comfortable being publicly exposed, so it's hard for them to avoid voting for ATPG.

Your feeble votes are no match for the power of the DARK SIDE....


Plus, at least two of the mafia families have been wary of ATPG for a while now anyway and are taking advantage of this opportunity to dispose of a competitor.


You have paid the price for your lack of vision.



It was a good strategy though and ATPG should be commended for it. Timidity does not win Capo and power grabs like this are what make the game fun.

And now young Skywalker, you will d- ....continue to decompose.

[TinCow]

I'm not quite sure how you think red text and Star Wars references will help you survive tomorrow's lynch as well.

[Cahoma]

then why did u still vote for him and waste a lynch -_-
I was like, 40% sure he would be survive the lynch somehow and there were practically no other candidates. Not that a votechange would have mattered... :/

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not quite sure how you think red text and Star Wars references will help you survive tomorrow's lynch as well.

Isn't he cute, folks?

[The Stranger]

I was like, 40% sure he would be survive the lynch somehow and there were practically no other candidates. Not that a votechange would have mattered... :/

really? afaik AggKing was leading with 15 votes to 0 when the pizza wagon started...

[Scienter]

I'm not quite sure how you think red text and Star Wars references will help you survive tomorrow's lynch as well.

Sounds like he's got a lawyer to appeal to the governor. The question is, how many times can the lawyer do that? It it a one-off special power or can the lawyer do it every time someone comes up for a lynch.

[Cahoma]

really? afaik AggKing was leading with 15 votes to 0 when the pizza wagon started...
I went from Chaotix to Pizza, but at that point Pizza was already in the lead(I think).

[Cahoma]

Sounds like he's got a lawyer to appeal to the governor. The question is, how many times can the lawyer do that? It it a one-off special power or can the lawyer do it every time someone comes up for a lynch.
I'm guessing he can do it one, or maybe two, times. It sounds way too powerful if he could do it everytime.

[Subotan]

FORCE BREATH ALL OVER AGAIN

AGHHHHH OH GOD WHY

[TinCow]

Sounds like he's got a lawyer to appeal to the governor. The question is, how many times can the lawyer do that? It it a one-off special power or can the lawyer do it every time someone comes up for a lynch.

Eh, doesn't really matter. There's no choice but to lynch him again and find out. He's anti-town, so the town must dispose of him, and he's lost the support of the mafia families as well so he's pretty much out of allies. The town will never trust him again, so he's a must-lynch on their part. Plus, another round of ATPG lynching is another round where the rest of the mafioso get off easy, so it's pretty much a no-brainer for the scum as well. It's nice when everyone can come together like this against a common foe. A rare moment of agreement in an otherwise chaotic world.

In any case, I'd guess it's a one-shot red text ability. A mafia-aligned role that prevents lynchings seems too likely to be game-breaking for Seamus to include it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Shocking.

[ULC]

El Oh El. I'm banking it on being a mafia "favor" ability, so it's usable so long as the mafia have favors to call in, and if so that means Pizza still has allies. IIRC, favors still exist in Capo, correct?

[Cahoma]

What is 'favors'?

[ULC]

What is 'favors'?

IIRC, every mafia family had a one time favor they could call in, which depending on game set up meant another mafia family or mafia aligned player had to do something for them. This reeks of a mafia favor type ability where in they can call in a favor to save themselves from a lynch. It's relatively balanced since a mafia family can only use it once, unless there is a new Don IIRC.

If true, and ATPG's allies still hold, then they know it's irrelevant to vote for him the next two times and so they will vote for him anyway to hide in the mess, and basically have 3 days of doing whatever they want while the thread remains unconstructive. During this time, anyone and everyone who wants to go mafia can because there is a living person whom they can talk to who will set them up so they get promoted while he's alive.

I'll still remain indifferent to the situation, but the town is going to have a rough time of it unless they focus on ATPG and force the Dons to run out of favors. Not doing so will make ATPG a headache for any townie effort in the long run.

[Montmorency]

Then Town can't rely on double or triple lynches. Even a single scum vote would ruin it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Then Town can't rely on double or triple lynches. Even a single scum vote would ruin it.

You know it. :bounce:

[Clitsome]

I'm guessing he is the governors mistress. I'll give him two days of "get out of lynch free card" before the governor gets tired of him and finds someone less annoying.

Can't someone role block the governor?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Alright, I've prepared a handy primer for what our course of action should be for tomorrow's day phase.

Reasons the town should continue to vote for ATPG:
Duh.

Reasons the mafia families should continue to vote for ATPG:
Looking back at ATPG's recent posts, he didn't even make an effort to defend himself, instead outright and utterly playing up his villain-ness. This serves a couple of useful analysis purposes.

First, it allows us to hypothesize that ATPG knew he was never in danger of being lynched and knew all along that he'd be saved from the noose. Upon a reread this seems pretty apparent. Accepting this hypothesis as truth allows us to further extrapolate:

If ATPG knows he's safe, what's he doing with the time given to him? He's subtly shifting the discussion and consolidating his power base. You'll notice that he went and claimed "The Wolf", which is the lesser of the two evils that I accused him of in my initial post. What's the difference? The Wolf is less of a threat to the mafia. The Wolf, according to ATPG, is a nice, mafia-aligned role whose simple win condition is that one of the five families emerges triumphant. So, from the families' perspective, the only way that ATPG could be *more* friendly to them is if he was an initial member. So his repeated and into-it claims of Wolf is really serving to assure the families that it's in their best interests to keep him alive.

However, there are a couple of issues with this. First of all, as I mentioned in one of my posts, the Wolf role in previous iterations of Capo has always had a secondary victory condition of becoming Don and/or Capo di Tutti Capi. I do not think that ATPG would go to all of that trouble if he wasn't interested in securing that secondary victory condition. Take a look at his formation of the Rogue Detectives for instance, which are entirely unnecessary if he's going for the mafia-friendly win condition. Second of all, since it's clear that ATPG was still playing the game yesterday and not letting it all hang out on the line, we're not even sure if he *is* The Wolf. His master plan could be a variation of my first and more sinister accusation of him, that he's planning to betray the families down the line in the endgame. In all of his words from yesterday, you'll notice that ATPG didn't even touch on that possibility.

To sum it up, it's still pretty certain that ATPG is an enemy to the goals of the mafia as well and thus needs to be removed.

Reasons why miscellaneous characters/everybody else needs to vote for ATPG:
Because he just sent me the following PM, and frankly we can't let such egregious arrogance go unpunished (bolding mine):


Hey, can I see the writeup you wrote?

I'm curious as to how my fate would have been, had I not totally won this game of 117 people in 6 rounds nearly single-handedly.

[slashandburn]

Since I was attacked last night, I'm probably gonna be attacked again, just saying doctors.

[Montmorency]

I have a simple solution:

1. All scums leave Fatlington.
2. All Townies revert to neutrality.
3. Pizza and GH leave Fatlington forever, head to New York; there, while clinging to the spire of the Empire State Building, they engage in single combat. Winner gets all the glory.

:yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Because he just sent me the following PM, and frankly we can't let such egregious arrogance go unpunished (bolding mine):

OOC: I'm playing a character. Like referring to you as a "snot rag", it's not how I truly feel.


IC: But it is indeed a provocation and I'm glad to see you're responding to it reflexively. :evil: It's amusing to me that I can make you dance for me, even now. DANCE FOR ME, GENERAL PUPPETCHIEF!

[Montmorency]

Re: ATPG and GH:


Sing once again with me
Our strange duet
My power over you grows stronger yet
And though you turn from me to glance behind
The Pizza of the Mafia is there
Inside your mind

[edse]

I'm so sad right now. Everything I believed in, everyone I trusted, all the good things we established, it was all bs and lies. How could you? Letting us down like that. I refused to believe them at first but your actions prove they are right.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm so sad right now. Everything I believed in, everyone I trusted, all the good things we established, it was all bs and lies. How could you? Letting us down like that. I refused to believe them at first but your actions prove they are right.

Welcome to Capo di tutti Capi.

[thefluffyone93]

WAT.

I come back from college, and see people selecting me.

WAT.

I see ATPG use godly powers to survive a lynch.

WAT.

I've decided to take the purple pill.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tumblr_lo6j7a1oZY1qb8jhe.gif

[Askthepizzaguy]

TheFluffyOne is upstaging me again. :laugh4:

Darn you, you sweet sexy man.

[TinCow]

OOC: I'm playing a character. Like referring to you as a "snot rag", it's not how I truly feel.


IC: But it is indeed a provocation and I'm glad to see you're responding to it reflexively. :evil: It's amusing to me that I can make you dance for me, even now. DANCE FOR ME, GENERAL PUPPETCHIEF!

You seem to have gotten some of your 'arrogant IC character' in your 'arrogant OOC character.'

[thefluffyone93]

TheFluffyOne is upstaging me again. :laugh4:

Darn you, you sweet sexy man.

Anytime, baby, anytime.

[Cahoma]

Alright, we all know ATPG is scum. Do we have any other suspects? I'm a wee bit confused...

[Askthepizzaguy]

You seem to have gotten some of your 'arrogant IC character' in your 'arrogant OOC character.'

Unintentional, to be sure. I'm trying to keep the two things separate. But while I'm playing the game, most everything I say is IC unless specifically written "OOC".

[Neri]

Wait, what's a lawyer, and what's a Wolf? And how am I supposed to know these things?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wait, what's a lawyer, and what's a Wolf? And how am I supposed to know these things?

"The Wolf" is ATPG's claimed role, which is a mafia-aligned scum that works with the families in order to secure victory. It also most likely has a secondary victory condition of becoming Capo di Tutti Capi for oneself. Whether or not ATPG is telling the truth about this is debatable.

The "lawyer" is apparently a role that used a special ability to save ATPG from the lynch. Unfortunately I don't think anybody who knows much more than that is going to tell considering he used his ability on such an obvious scum.

[Montmorency]

Are you the Lawyer, GH?

[GeneralHankerchief]

No, I am not the laywer. I am not anything but a townie. I didn't even know the role existed until the stupid thing was revealed and prevented my beautiful lynch writeup that I did at 4am last night instead of going to sleep from being shown.

[Cahoma]

Would be hilarious if you turned out to be mafia though.

[Memnon]

It's the blue pill for me, I'm afraid.

[Xenoneb]

Ironside
issaikhaan
Jarema
Johhog
Jolt
Kennigit
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
LazyMcCrow
Lewwyn
Memnon
Neri
Nightbringer
Niklas
Oh! TheLastDays!

Ironside
GH
Jarema
Daveshack

I Looked back to compare the two mafia "reveals" to see what compares. Two of the same names pop up, which leads me to believe that MRD was telling the truth. We haveto lynch/Vig all of both lists, in my opinion. It is not often that 14 Mafia/soon to be Mafia are named. We must attack. Next select day, vote for someone other then GH. He is scum. He even might be working with ATPG, and just pretending that there is a Veto character. It side in MRD post that either Ironside or GH would be the successor.

Edit: Red is "Known" scum, Blue is questionable. Everything else is in between.

[Cahoma]

Wait, GH is scum? How do you know?

[Xenoneb]

MRD vote on page 60-ish?
Edit Here it is https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137953-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-IV&p=2053377524&viewfull=1#post2053377524
There was a scummy post by O!TLD near that. Not enough to post it, but to mention.

[Zack]

I knew my vote for the Pizzaman was a good one!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I Looked back to compare the two mafia "reveals" to see what compares. Two of the same names pop up, which leads me to believe that MRD was telling the truth. We haveto lynch/Vig all of both lists, in my opinion. It is not often that 14 Mafia/soon to be Mafia are named. We must attack. Next select day, vote for someone other then GH. He is scum. He even might be working with ATPG, and just pretending that there is a Veto character. It side in MRD post that either Ironside or GH would be the successor.

Edit: Red is "Known" scum, Blue is questionable. Everything else is in between.

:laugh4:

NOBODY TELL XENONEB! I want to see how long it takes for him to figure it out.

[Montmorency]

MRD vote on page 60-ish?


I Looked back to compare the two mafia "reveals" to see what compares. Two of the same names pop up, which leads me to believe that MRD was telling the truth. We haveto lynch/Vig all of both lists, in my opinion. It is not often that 14 Mafia/soon to be Mafia are named. We must attack. Next select day, vote for someone other then GH. He is scum. He even might be working with ATPG, and just pretending that there is a Veto character. It side in MRD post that either Ironside or GH would be the successor.

Edit: Red is "Known" scum, Blue is questionable. Everything else is in between.

Well, many people voted for MRD. And there are many people in that list; surely there would be overlap. In itself it says little. But fine, go ahead. Try to organize vig groups now. Have the doctors protect Monk, and you, and whomever. But even if everyone you hit is scum, I fear that there may be a slaughter on the town's hands tonight...

[Xenoneb]

:laugh4:

NOBODY TELL XENONEB! I want to see how long it takes for him to figure it out.
I'll firgue this out! I'll have a huge headache from reading all the post. But I will! As of now my guess is GH is a Don, and he wrote the non-lynch. Iron side might be. How do I do that thing were I pull up all of a person's posts?

Edit: Mont. there was only 4 people on MRD's reveal. The four listed. And I'm dead, so some one needs to step up for the town.

[Cahoma]

It might be a good idea to have GH investigated though. The one who's leading the pro-town effort should of course be a townie, and it's not like we can take any chances with all the stuff that's been happening.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It might be a good idea to have GH investigated though. The one who's leading the pro-town effort should of course be a townie, and it's not like we can take any chances with all the stuff that's been happening.

You'll learn nothing as he hasn't been killing.

Better is to investigate folks who have been killing to see who they've killed with.

There, that's your pro-town protip of the day.

Now.... release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.

[Xenoneb]

Huge text wall Ahead

The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice
"Well, I've taken a look at some of these songs you want me to play, and my first reaction is.... what in the blue marble is wrong with you people? But it's an all-request show, and we have to take what we can get. Hold on, I'm being handed something.... it seems that one of the candidates for Director of the Committee of Vigilance would like to be interviewed on the air! This is extraordinary! Let's find out if this candidate is up to snuff.

Mister Hanky General, you're on the air with DJ Saucy Slice. please say hello to our listeners and if you could, describe for us your vision of Fatlington under the watchful eye of a true General."

If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=23872). He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.


"Hey, everybody. Hopefully you're all doing well out there, eating well, sleeping well. Saucy Slice, thanks for having me. I'm not going to do the usual politician thing of explaining how much more wonderful life would be in Fatlington would be if you select me to be your Director. I think we've all been through this situation enough times in the past to know how to deal with it. Look at Commissioner Fermanagh, he's been prepared for months now. We've got special detectives and G-men from Washington and everything coming in undercover to do our work for us. I think we're all pretty self-sufficient here. So select me, and you won't be unnecessarily burdened with more government interference that frankly, I'm not even sure if we need."


The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice
"So, Mister Hanky General, you're campaigning on a platform of limited, responsible government and down-to-earth all-American family values, is that not so?

Excellent, you sound like the kind of compassionate conservative this city needs. As it stands, our city is already under siege from the Feds, and I'm not just talking about the g-men. These taxes are out of control. If selected, would you be willing to campaign to lower taxes, once this crisis has been averted? There are many legitimate businessmen in this town who would like the government off their backs permanently, and are willing to do just about anything to make that happen. Will your administration be friendly to the local businessmen, or oppressive?"
If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=23872). He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.

"Excellent question, DJ Slice. While I don't think Fatlington's tax policy is quite under the Director of the Committee of Vigilance's jurisdiction, I'm definitely for lower taxes that are friendly to business. As any good resident of Fatlington knows, our fine city is built on tourism. With such icons as the picturesque beaches, the Hotel Abbatoir, and of course Club 30, people flock to Fatlington from up and down the East Coast. However, there would be nowhere to flock *to* if it wasn't for the fine businesses in the area. A tourist destination with nowhere to eat and nothing to buy is not much of a tourist destination, and we need to ensure that our tax rate allows businesses to continue to set up shop here and stay competitive. Therefore, this candidate for Director is behind the businesses one hundred percent... and thus by extension behind the people."

The bold is the things I felt odd. The first one is very odd, since JHT just got interviewed, but barely got anytime. For the next one Pizza has used businessmen as code words for mafia before. My thinks they planned this since the beginning. Before this interview, JHT was up in selects. After this, GH votes rocket.

Select: woad&fangs
If you don't, you will be sleeping with the fishes.
Also, I have heard less scummy things from real mafia. How is he still around?

Any input is welcomed

Edit: Cahoma, Dons show as innocent. So no use doing it.

[Xenoneb]

The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice




"Ladies and gentlemen, a package has been delivered to these offices. It contains a letter that I've been asked to read on the air.

I am not sure what to make of it, it could be some sort of terrorist threat, or whatever. I'm going to hand this over to the authorities once I'm done with it. I will note that I do not and this station does not endorse this message, nor can we vouch for its source or content. Here it is:



.....Yeah. So anyway, this is really strange. No return address, just an email address. But, I've promised to be your source of news, information, and :daisy:-kicking music, and so here is news and/or information. Not sure which.


Actually, this message is killing my buzz, and I resent the implication that I am allied with the mafia. I've allied with no one, and I'm staying out of politics. Leave Saucy Slice alone, whoever you are. I don't want to get involved, sir or madam.

Back to the music in a moment."



If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=23872). He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.
I wonder who sent it? It seems total correct though. Puppet GH government, Pizza being voice of mafia (interviewing of GH)
Edit: Sorry about double post. I'll start page four tomorrow. This is going to be fun! (To see full post, go to page 3) Was all of it planned out? All the reveals? Even Monk's review? It's all to give the allusion of choice? Vouching for stranger? Were does reality start? How much of these was planned? Can I take the Red Pill? To see the Matrix as it's reality. To see all the agents.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Much better, Xenoneb.

Yeah, GH was put in as Director because I asked him if he'd be neutral or mafia friendly. He was obviously a willing puppet of the mafia families. The interview shows him admitting to being "business" friendly. Which business? The Family business.

They needed to hear it from his own lips that he would destroy townies only, and leave mafia alone. And he consented. The subtext is actually glaringly obvious but nobody wanted to go town this game. That was the first major clue that I'd have a lot of space to work with.

He's just nervous because I had my hand in every cookie jar, and that makes going mafia a whole lot less secure from his point of view. He needed me removed so he could continue to be Director and also to have a safer shot at the Capo prize for himself.

In that sense, GH and I are the same; both motivated by scummy greed. The differences after that point become more obvious.

[White_eyes:D]

I hope this really becomes a "Capo IV Civil War". It's been kinda tame since the start anyway, this should give it the shot in the arm.:clown:

[Xenoneb]

To little, to late. We have to suffer through two days of Mafia rule. I say Chatoix and Wood&Fang next. Neither seem to be in GH's mob, so they should get taken down easily.

[Chaotix]

To little, to late. We have to suffer through two days of Mafia rule. I say Chatoix and Wood&Fang next

:laugh4:

If you were really worried about lynching mafia, you wouldn't be going after me.

As it is, right now the mafia feel they have as much reason to kill me as the town does.

[Xenoneb]

:laugh4:

If you were really worried about lynching mafia, you wouldn't be going after me.

As it is, right now the mafia feel they have as much reason to kill me as the town does.
We can't lynch Ironside, Jarema or Daveshack?. They probably won't go through. Landlubber would be another one possible.

Edit: Curses! You guys have made me randomly look through the pages, looking for more clues! I forgot what else I was going to say!

[Montmorency]

If GH is Mafia, then you will only be lynching townies for a while.

Don't forget that despite the highest proportional turnout ever yesterday, there are still about 20 totally inactive players, the majority of them town. If there are at least 30 scums (2 dozen being allied with GH and Pizza), and more looking to join, then town doesn't have a ghost of a chance. You are outnumbered.

There may be hope, though: the assassination of Tratorix indicates dissent in their ranks.

[Xenoneb]

No. The alliance is (hopeful) broken. We need only to vig non-GH family mafia. That should get through... Have fun well you still can, living townies. The town can still go on. It's only night 8?. We have a large list of names, and at least one Don. Warning, if you are a townie, Do not vig tonight. join protection groups. Vigging will either fail, or hit innocent.

[Sprig]

Xenoneb,

Look at Monks list once again and see what you can see?

Ironside
issaikhaan
Jarema
Johhog
Jolt
Kennigit
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
LazyMcCrow
Lewwyn
Memnon
Monk
Neri
Nightbringer
Niklas
Oh! TheLastDays!

[Memnon]

And just what are people supposed to be seeing there, Sprig?

Edit: Nevermind, I see it

It includes Monk! I was just being a little defensive/clueless.

[Xenoneb]

Monk's on it. He admitted to that. Memmon publicly posted Blue pill(not completely home free, but better then most). LandLubber has gotten really lucky with the lynches. Can anyone tell me how to pull up posts by name?

[Chaotix]

Monk's on it. He admitted to that. Memmon publicly posted Blue pill(not completely home free, but better then most). LandLubber has gotten really lucky with the lynches. Can anyone tell me how to pull up posts by name?

Search function > Advanced search > search by user > find posts by user.

But there's still something you're missing about that list. Something very special about who exactly is on it...

[GeneralHankerchief]

For the record, I have not organized any vigilante groups tonight nor am I planning to. I am not part of any family, nor am I planning to be. All ATPG's trying to do now is take me down with him.

[Montmorency]

What part of "Active Mafia-path outnumbers Active Town-path" did...

If the Mafia keep on killing ~3+ town a night, then by mid-November there will be none. The WoGs will handle the rest. If you take everything that has been said for truth, and posit that GH is thoroughly anti-Town, then Town is finished.

Its time to duel! You're finished, you fool!

[El Barto]

You know what?
After ATPG is lynched, we should go ahead and lynch GH.
Just to be sure.

Besides, a little bit of anarchy never hurt anybody, right?

Right?
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/Applause.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQkActP-isE

Being dead I can't be too direct, but it really does seem as though Pizza became to individuals whatever they wanted him to be. He has in fact helped everyone do everything, from advance to rogue to advance to Made. :shrug:

Eh. To be honest, I'm not bright enough to see a loophole in this pre-game pact of yours. Maybe someone else could point it out?

And where is Pizza, anyway? Nothing to say? There are only 10 hours left.

He must be up to something. He does not go quietly.
Sounds like a universal middleman. And he didn't even go.

Hello, what's all this then? :bounce:
As if you didn't know…

Well, I suppose we'll just have to Vote:ATPG
???

Much better, Xenoneb.

Yeah, GH was put in as Director because I asked him if he'd be neutral or mafia friendly. He was obviously a willing puppet of the mafia families. The interview shows him admitting to being "business" friendly. Which business? The Family business.

They needed to hear it from his own lips that he would destroy townies only, and leave mafia alone. And he consented. The subtext is actually glaringly obvious but nobody wanted to go town this game. That was the first major clue that I'd have a lot of space to work with.

He's just nervous because I had my hand in every cookie jar, and that makes going mafia a whole lot less secure from his point of view. He needed me removed so he could continue to be Director and also to have a safer shot at the Capo prize for himself.

In that sense, GH and I are the same; both motivated by scummy greed. The differences after that point become more obvious.
Yes, you've been proven scum and he hasn't.

What part of "Active Mafia-path outnumbers Active Town-path" did...

If the Mafia keep on killing ~3+ town a night, then by mid-November there will be none. The WoGs will handle the rest. If you take everything that has been said for truth, and posit that GH is thoroughly anti-Town, then Town is finished.

Its time to duel! You're finished, you fool!So be it, Jedi.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Monk's on it. He admitted to that. Memmon publicly posted Blue pill(not completely home free, but better then most). LandLubber has gotten really lucky with the lynches. Can anyone tell me how to pull up posts by name?

The pm was sent to everyone, that section is just the L through O names or something.

[Xenoneb]

Okay. I didn't get it cause I'm dead. I get it now. Any Detectives need someone to detect tonight? 'Cause I got a target in mind. Please PM if interested.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I need townies for protection work tonight. This is very important. Please PM me if interested.

[Sprig]

Okay. I didn't get it cause I'm dead. I get it now. Any Detectives need someone to detect tonight? 'Cause I got a target in mind. Please PM if interested.

ATPG's PM went to almost* everyone. The pm in itself has little meaning other than a fishing attempt to sound out possible corruptibles.
At this stage, I will not be surprised if GH and Pizza are same mafia team and GH just refused to lynch him.

[GeneralHankerchief]

As Director, the only influence I have over lynches is if there's a tie vote. Then I can deny the lynch to one or both people. If there's a single lynch candidate however, I cannot stop that person from being lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The pm was sent to everyone, that section is just the L through O names or something.

Sasaki

Why you spoil my fun? It was hilarious watching them try to take down that group of my most trusted gangsters.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I need townies for protection work tonight. This is very important. Please PM me if interested.

Oh, behave. I'm not hitting rogues or doctors, they're obviously protected, and anyone else is someone you want dead as a mafioso anyway.

Chillax, mang. I've taken care of everything.

[Erebus]

The PM wasn't sent to EVERYONE. I never got it.

I was also attacked by 2 Mafia and 1 Vigilante group.

Chatting with ATPG, he attempted to subtly hint to let him know if I had any mafia inclination. Everytime I've claimed to be pro-town, and I've also refused to do any Vigilante groups.

For some reason ATPG or someone in his circle has it out for me. Perhaps because they think I'm the detective I'm supposedly protecting (which I'm not) or because they are frustrated they can't find this detective because I'm covering for them.

If that Vigilante attack hadn't failed I'd be dead right now, but I'm not. So take that for what it's worth.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The PM wasn't sent to EVERYONE. I never got it.

I was also attacked by 2 Mafia and 1 Vigilante group.

Chatting with ATPG, he attempted to subtly hint to let him know if I had any mafia inclination. Everytime I've claimed to be pro-town, and I've also refused to do any Vigilante groups.

For some reason ATPG or someone in his circle has it out for me. Perhaps because they think I'm the detective I'm supposedly protecting (which I'm not) or because they are frustrated they can't find this detective because I'm covering for them.

If that Vigilante attack hadn't failed I'd be dead right now, but I'm not. So take that for what it's worth.

Now you understand, Erebus. I ordered both mafia hits and the vigilante hit on you.

Obviously I didn't send you the message because I don't trust you. Each time I have tried to tempt you to the dark side, you defy me and claim to be a Jedi like your father. As such, the only reasonable and responsible course of action is to fry you with Force Lightning until you die.

That is the only reason I have it out for you. I detest incorruptible Fatlings. You're incorruptible by attitude, if not by role. Now you too will experience the full power of the dark side.






___________





Another message in my inbox:

Hello, Smoking Gunman here. I'm just calling in to inform you that I'm not going to sit idly by while DJ Saucy Slice, if that is your real name, and the General of Hankerchiefs, and the other guys get away with this. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. Now I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them world without you, without rules or controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible. To anyone who still wants to fight, you know where to reach me. (mailto:smokingunman@live.com) We can still stop this.

Also someone requested this song, in honor of the size of this thread. It's sort of out of place on my radio station, but what the heck, I'm in a generous mood.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg&feature=related

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is just your spin on it, GH.

The fact is that what you are saying is patently obvious to everyone in that alliance. Three families and one "neutral" can't win Capo together. It just doesn't work that way. What you (deliberately or not) fail to realize is that their alliance is merely one of convenience until they wipe everyone else out. Once that happens, it's a free-for-all and the best family wins. ATPG just has the advantage of being able to pick the winning side. So the families aren't going to care that *surprise* ATPG is planning to betray them, because *surprise* they are all planning to betray each other ANYWAY.

But, let's suppose for a moment what you say is true, and those 6 Rogues were going to pick off all three of those families instead of all the townies. Well then, the town wins with ATPG.

And if neither of those options are what you want, then what DO you want?

Are YOU planning to betray most of the town in the endgame? What makes you a better option?

I just noticed this post, during a re-read.

This is perhaps the most brilliant thing I've ever read. Very insightful, cuts right to the bone of the whole matter.

Well put, Chaotix. Very well said.

[sturmhauke]

Another message in my inbox:
Hello, Smoking Gunman here. I'm just calling in to inform you that I'm not going to sit idly by while DJ Saucy Slice, if that is your real name, and the General of Hankerchiefs, and the other guys get away with this. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. Now I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them world without you, without rules or controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible. To anyone who still wants to fight, you know where to reach me. We can still stop this.

As if we can trust any email address you post. I grow tired of your lies, your arrogance and your attempts at intimidation.

People of Fatlington! Hear me now!

The mafia families have grown stronger while we squabble amongst ourselves. ATPG would like us to think that his victory is close at hand, but it is not assured yet. We cannot afford to sit idly by however, we must act.

Yes, it is true that I worked with ATPG up until earlier today. He promised he could make me a rogue detective; that much is true enough. If I had worked with him a few more nights, I would have gotten there. But now I have seen, we have all seen, the hidden strings attached to his words. I was to be "Vode's Sword", part of a rogue squadron, an instrument of ATPG's ambition. Soon after I was told this, GH laid his case against ATPG. That was when I knew that I could no longer work with ATPG.

"Join me or I will kill you," he says. This "blue pill" is nothing but a slower death. Even if he does not act directly against those of us who chose the "blue pill", if we sit idly by he will marshal his mafia forces and win. GH says he can lead the town, but can he be trusted? I don't know, and neither do many of you. He sits behind the Director's desk where we all put him, safe and accountable to no one until we pull him back out.

I offer myself as your leader. I have a few people with me, but not enough. I will make rogues, and I will make surgeons, and we will hunt down the mafia. Why should you trust me though? Well, you can't trust ATPG unless you want to join the mafia, and even then you still shouldn't. Many of you already distrust GH. Who knows who this "Smoking Gunman" really is? All I can answer is this: I am making myself a target. ATPG in his pride assumed that I and the other rogue candidates would blindly follow him wherever he might have led us. When I took his "blue pill," he tried to convince me to change my mind. But now this is what I have to say:

I reject your red pill. I reject your blue pill. And I reject your tainted sword. In their place I offer a gauntlet. I will fight you, ATPG, you and your cronies. Even in death I will fight you, until every threat to this town is destroyed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That was awesome.

I endorse Sturmhauke as the pro-town leader. You can actually trust this guy, he totally flipped me the bird privately about joining me.

He's got cojones, and I appreciate that. He's even protected, so he'll still be here tomorrow.





Opt-out: You take the blue pill, and you stay in wonderland, with GH and his silly dreams of being townie.

Gimme the blue pill.

Sad. You know, as rogue detective, you can go mafia?

I was going to help you get there. We could have been close allies.

But I respect your wishes. Farewell, my friend.



So you're going to be the Dead Don now? Sounds trippy. I'm just no good at being mafia I'm afraid. Enjoy the criminal afterlife.

I'll see if you change your mind tomorrow. *hugs*


Vode's Sword is a warrior of unmatched caliber. Trustworthy to send in actions, and definitely doesn't work for me anymore.

[Erebus]

Well I'm with Sturmhauke on this. For better or worse. If this is another elaborate plot then I guess we lose.

I would like to extend a hand out to all those confused detectives who don't know who to trust anymore.

I'm pretty obviously not with ATPG, he tried really damn hard to get me in his networks, which I refused, and then tried really damn hard to recruit me to mafia, which I refused, and then tried to get me killed... alot... which I refused.

I've been protecting the identity of a detective since day 2, who has been feeding me with his scans. If anyone else wants a safe place to send their scans, pm me. I will protect your identity unless I'm certain your feeding me trash. They've tried to kill me over and over and failed, so you know I'm resilient. Trust me, I'll be around after tonight too.

Let me be your voice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll send you guys some volunteers. I promise only half of them will report back to me.

If you guess correctly, you'll get useful allies on your side. It's an offer you can't refuse, really.

[TheLastDays]

Shocking.

Haha, good one. :laugh4:

Well, this game is crazy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Haha, good one. :laugh4:

Well, this game is crazy.

If I were you, I'd leave town as soon as possible. :wink:

[Moros]

So you are alike the shadow after all. No wonder I was killed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So you are alike the shadow after all. No wonder I was killed.

It may take months, Moros, but there will come a day when you are shown by Seamus, and the parties involved, that it was not me who ordered your death.

Unfortunately you have to stew in your paranoia until then, and it breaks my heart, considering what I have actually done for your master.

[Diamondeye]

:curtain:

[TheLastDays]

:curtain:

Is there some more space behind that curtain?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

By my calculation, the number of players still alive in this game is more than the total for any other mafia game.

[Diamondeye]

Is there some more space behind that curtain?

Nope. Try behind the couch :hide:

[Suburban Plankton]

[Dead Man Talking]

My apologies for my sudden disappearance last week (though with so many players, I'm not sure it was noticed). We took off on vacation, and I wound up unexpectedly without Internet access for the first few days, and with a misbehaving cell phone. By the time I was able to check back to the thread, I had been unceremoniously dumped off a balcony. Ah well, such is life.

Anyway, I'm sorry that I bailed like that; it was not my intention. For my penance, I think I'll force myself to read each and every post that's been made since I went away.

[/DMT]

[Xenoneb]

My view on it is that both GH and Pizza are Mafia. Pizza is only leaning that way, not really a Don or Luca/Made. I don't really trust Sturmhauke either, but what choice do we have? We must have a Governor who will act for the town. We must rally under him.

[thefluffyone93]

NOPE.

JUST CHUCK TESTA. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJP1DphOWPs)

[Romanic]

Hmm. Hi everyone! :smug2:

Sorry for not being around much. :creep:

[TinCow]

FYI, ATPG is just a wiseguy. He was hit with a role penetrating investigation on Night 5 that said exactly that and that he was not associated with any mafia family. I consulted with Seamus, and role penetrations cannot be spoofed or faked in any manner. The format of the investigation results also matches perfectly with the formatting of other investigation results PMs I have seen, right down to individual night variations, so the results themselves are not fake. ATPG is an unaffiliated wiseguy and nothing more. All of his text-walls and PMs about being anything else are just made up for his own personal entertainment and to direct the game in a way he thinks is interesting. He will probably try and form his own mafia family eventually, but he has not done so at the moment, he has no special role, and he is not some incredible Capo boogeyman.

Do with that information what you will.

[sturmhauke]

Vode's Sword is a warrior of unmatched caliber. Trustworthy to send in actions, and definitely doesn't work for me anymore.

Perhaps you overlooked part of my post. Allow me to refresh your memory.


I reject your red pill. I reject your blue pill. And I reject your tainted sword.

You gave me the title, but I never accepted it, nor will I.


I'll send you guys some volunteers. I promise only half of them will report back to me.

If you guess correctly, you'll get useful allies on your side. It's an offer you can't refuse, really.

How thoughtful of you. Perhaps I'll send you some undercover agents as well. It would be the polite thing to do.

[The Stranger]

My view on it is that both GH and Pizza are Mafia. Pizza is only leaning that way, not really a Don or Luca/Made. I don't really trust Sturmhauke either, but what choice do we have? We must have a Governor who will act for the town. We must rally under him.

When in doubt, vote: Sasaki!

[Romanic]

FYI, ATPG is just a wiseguy. He was hit with a role penetrating investigation on Night 5 that said exactly that and that he was not associated with any mafia family. I consulted with Seamus, and role penetrations cannot be spoofed or faked in any manner. The format of the investigation results also matches perfectly with the formatting of other investigation results PMs I have seen, right down to individual night variations, so the results themselves are not fake. ATPG is an unaffiliated wiseguy and nothing more. All of his text-walls and PMs about being anything else are just made up for his own personal entertainment and to direct the game in a way he thinks is interesting. He will probably try and form his own mafia family eventually, but he has not done so at the moment, he has no special role, and he is not some incredible Capo boogeyman.

Do with that information what you will.
Then, how did he survive the lynch?

[TinCow]

Then, how did he survive the lynch?

Red text or someone else saved him. My money is still on red text.

[Frozen In Ice]

FYI, ATPG is just a wiseguy. He was hit with a role penetrating investigation on Night 5 that said exactly that and that he was not associated with any mafia family. I consulted with Seamus, and role penetrations cannot be spoofed or faked in any manner. The format of the investigation results also matches perfectly with the formatting of other investigation results PMs I have seen, right down to individual night variations, so the results themselves are not fake. ATPG is an unaffiliated wiseguy and nothing more. All of his text-walls and PMs about being anything else are just made up for his own personal entertainment and to direct the game in a way he thinks is interesting. He will probably try and form his own mafia family eventually, but he has not done so at the moment, he has no special role, and he is not some incredible Capo boogeyman.

Do with that information what you will.

Are dead people even allowed to reveal stuff like this if it is real? That seems game-breaking.

[TinCow]

Are dead people even allowed to reveal stuff like this if it is real? That seems game-breaking.

I shall repost the dead play rules once again:

Playing While Dead

While there are no "hero closets" in CdTC, you ARE encouraged to continue play once your character has died so as to contribute to your family/faction's victory if possible.

There ARE important restrictions than must be observed:
1. The dead may post, but not vote, select, or carry out any night actions (active or passive).
2. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately until that role has been revealed as per section V and may not reveal their “familiy” or role particulars even after that time.
3. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player.
4.Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal.
5. Unsure? Ask the host!

PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THIS!

Most of the arguments/problems with CdTC in earlier games resulted from dead players venting their frustration by revealing information or some such. As this can spoil the play/chances of others, it is very important that you abide by the rules above. Frustration at your being betrayed is understandable, but remember that it is just a game and that others, including your team-mates and associates, are still at play. Moreover, moderators take a dim view of such antics and could suspend your Gameroom privileges -- please make this rendition of CdTC fun for all even if you are annoyed in the short run.

Regarding the dead restrictions, my role has already been revealed by Seamus, I have not quoted from any PM, and I am not commenting on my own investigation results. As you may note, I am referring to an investigation result from N5, after I was already dead. It is not my result, it is a result from another detective. Since I am not allowed to post the actual PM from which it comes, you only have my word for it that I am telling the truth. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you.

[TheLastDays]

NOPE.

JUST CHUCK TESTA. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJP1DphOWPs)

This was hilarious! Chuck Testa is my new hero!

Also, TinCow is cinfirming some of my suspicions. Still this all is weird and will be fun to dissolve.

[Askthepizzaguy]

FYI, ATPG is just a wiseguy. He was hit with a role penetrating investigation on Night 5 that said exactly that and that he was not associated with any mafia family. I consulted with Seamus, and role penetrations cannot be spoofed or faked in any manner. The format of the investigation results also matches perfectly with the formatting of other investigation results PMs I have seen, right down to individual night variations, so the results themselves are not fake. ATPG is an unaffiliated wiseguy and nothing more. All of his text-walls and PMs about being anything else are just made up for his own personal entertainment and to direct the game in a way he thinks is interesting. He will probably try and form his own mafia family eventually, but he has not done so at the moment, he has no special role, and he is not some incredible Capo boogeyman.

Do with that information what you will.

You're wrong Tincow, I am the incredible Capo boogeyman. I just don't need to be CIA or The Wolf to accomplish that, unfortunately.

[johnhughthom]

I'm able to play again now, surprised to still be alive but hey ho. Anybody needs a spare body drop me a pm.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How thoughtful of you. Perhaps I'll send you some undercover agents as well. It would be the polite thing to do.

I already have undercover agents working against me. I wouldn't accept new people at this point anyway, as they can only be undercover agents. No one chooses to suddenly work with me now unless there's an ulterior motive for it.

But by all means, counter-espionage away.

[Zack]

I already have undercover agents working against me. I wouldn't accept new people at this point anyway, as they can only be undercover agents. No one chooses to suddenly work with me now unless there's an ulterior motive for it.
Can I work with you?

[Zack]

Geez, not contributing to analysis/discussion, not bothering to defend myself from anything, only posting snarky one-liners -- I feel like johnhughthom.











:bow:

[DaveShack]

I'm beginning to suspect Zack is up to something.

[Sprig]

FYI, ATPG is just a wiseguy. He was hit with a role penetrating investigation on Night 5 that said exactly that and that he was not associated with any mafia family. I consulted with Seamus, and role penetrations cannot be spoofed or faked in any manner. The format of the investigation results also matches perfectly with the formatting of other investigation results PMs I have seen, right down to individual night variations, so the results themselves are not fake. ATPG is an unaffiliated wiseguy and nothing more. All of his text-walls and PMs about being anything else are just made up for his own personal entertainment and to direct the game in a way he thinks is interesting. He will probably try and form his own mafia family eventually, but he has not done so at the moment, he has no special role, and he is not some incredible Capo boogeyman.

Do with that information what you will.

I found this really bizzare. I thought it was already established that he was wiseguy? It was a perfect explanation for me as to why he is acting the way he is. Mafia and town both wouldn't let him live without being accountable for his actions. He had to help both else he would have been gotten rid of sooner.

It is this uncertainty upon which GH case rested, 'Lynch him now or he might* switch to the side your not on.'

Funny enough he still could go town... (unless he has aligned since.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Feel free to be paranoid about me, but consider how likely it is I'd do something so gutless and uninteresting. I thought folks knew me better than that.

[johnhughthom]

Geez, not contributing to analysis/discussion, not bothering to defend myself from anything, only posting snarky one-liners -- I feel like johnhughthom.

That's..... harsh.

[thefluffyone93]

That's..... harsh.

NOPE.

JUST CHU- oh wait........

[Zack]

That's..... harsh.
:clown:


It was a joke.

[El Barto]

I shall repost the dead play rules once again:


Regarding the dead restrictions, my role has already been revealed by Seamus, I have not quoted from any PM, and I am not commenting on my own investigation results. As you may note, I am referring to an investigation result from N5, after I was already dead. It is not my result, it is a result from another detective. Since I am not allowed to post the actual PM from which it comes, you only have my word for it that I am telling the truth. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you.
You're not allowed to answer PMs from the living either. :stare:

I'm able to play again now, surprised to still be alive but hey ho. Anybody needs a spare body drop me a pm.
How come you're still alive and I'm not?


Geez, not contributing to analysis/discussion, not bothering to defend myself from anything, only posting snarky one-liners -- I feel like johnhughthom.That's..... harsh.Another snarky one-liner! :rolleyes: And you're not bothering to defend yourself, and you're certainly not contributing to analysis/discussion! :clown:

[johnhughthom]

How come you're still alive and I'm not?


Well, in the short time I was active in the game you came out with probably the most pathetic excuse for not taking part in a night action I have ever heard. I don't think I could repeat it here, putting such idiocy down on screen would no doubt make my brain implode.



Another snarky one-liner! :rolleyes:

It was not a snarky one liner, a single tear was rolling down my cheek as I typed it.

[Montmorency]

Feel free to be paranoid about me, but consider how likely it is I'd do something so gutless and uninteresting. I thought folks knew me better than that.

Fuys, come on - Pizza is scum-leaning through and through. He is openly aiding and abetting Mafia and will only return to the fold if the town manages to prise a victory from the jaws of death.

I can't believe no one even commented on these Pizza PMs that were posted inthread just a couple of pages ago.



Please, Pizza, won't you do the right thing here?

Apologies, old friend, but Townie death lists are my nightly pleasure reading. :laugh4::thumbsup:

That was fabricated. :creep:

[sturmhauke]

You're not allowed to answer PMs from the living either. :stare:

I'm not seeing where the rules state or imply that.

[TinCow]

You're not allowed to answer PMs from the living either. :stare:

Sure you are, where does it say otherwise?

[Frozen In Ice]

I shall repost the dead play rules once again:


Regarding the dead restrictions, my role has already been revealed by Seamus, I have not quoted from any PM, and I am not commenting on my own investigation results. As you may note, I am referring to an investigation result from N5, after I was already dead. It is not my result, it is a result from another detective. Since I am not allowed to post the actual PM from which it comes, you only have my word for it that I am telling the truth. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you.
Whatever, seems really unbalancing if dead players can go saying whatever they want. If they can do this why have we not set up a dead player pro-town network? Just give a confirmed dead townie all the scan results and let them post them in the thread, let the dead townie players organize all the vigilantes and protectors. To me it just breaks the spirit of the game.

[TinCow]

Whatever, seems really unbalancing if dead players can go saying whatever they want. If they can do this why have we not set up a dead player pro-town network? Just give a confirmed dead townie all the scan results and let them post them in the thread, let the dead townie players organize all the vigilantes and protectors. To me it just breaks the spirit of the game.

It's not unbalanced at all because it works both ways. Dead mafioso can also help recruit for their families and can obfuscate. Some of the most entertaining play in past Capo games has come from dead players.

[classical_hero]

We must kill JHT because of his signature.

[thefluffyone93]

DOWN WITH THE PONIES.

CHUCK TESTA NEEDS MORE SPECIMENS.

[Xenoneb]

All who have that sig... Must die!!!

[DaveShack]

We must kill JHT because of his signature.
Nah, killing is too good a response to that. He needs to be put out to pasture.