Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Chaotix]

FOS: Andres

That color is suspiciously like a code.

It's the pink communists, also known as feminists!

This affront to our obvious male superiority and dominance will not be tolerated!

[El Barto]

So, Xenoneb, you're mightily fishy.

[Andres]

FOS: Andres

That color is suspiciously like a code.

Tempted to use that colour for the rest of the game...

Why is Xenoneb mightily fishy?

[GamezRule]

I'm here, folks. Just a little late, that's all.

[Cahoma]

What's so wrong with pink?

[TheLastDays]

What's so wrong with pink?

It hurts my eyes.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I have something better. Kittensporran!

https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7606/catinakilt.png

Cool picture, where did you get that at?

[Diamondeye]

Tempted to use that colour for the rest of the game...

Why is Xenoneb mightily fishy?

Please do!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Getting spammy.

[The Stranger]

FOS: Andres

That color is suspiciously like a code.

to spell colour without the u is suspiciously like a code!

[Xenoneb]

Why am I fishy?

[Montmorency]

'Cause you'll be sleepin' with da fishes!

:wink:

[Subotan]

Getting spammy.
...

[B-Wing]

FOS: Oh! TheLastRays

Hey, don't associate me with that lunatic!

Also, this being my first Capo game, I'm pretty surprised by all the people publicly advertising themselves for night activity. Seems like a good way to make yourself a target.

[El Barto]

Now, I'm beginning to distrust Xenoneb. A lot. He wanted to draw in FIVE people (under the threat of 'your life') into a single protection group, then LEFT and has been giving no instructions. He also has managed to give the impression that I am in one group when I am in another one entirely and I'm having to countermand orders. fos:Xenoneb.

Cool picture, where did you get that at?
I'm awesome, what else can I say?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Still need recruits, actually have a solid purpose for one.

Please contact ASAP. Tik tok on the clock, but the party don't stop, no....

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Now, I'm beginning to distrust Xenoneb. A lot. He wanted to draw in FIVE people (under the threat of 'your life') into a single protection group, then LEFT and has been giving no instructions. He also has managed to give the impression that I am in one group when I am in another one entirely and I'm having to countermand orders. fos:Xenoneb.

I'm awesome, what else can I say?


That I'm more awesome :laugh:?

[Montmorency]

Now, I'm beginning to distrust Xenoneb. A lot. He wanted to draw in FIVE people (under the threat of 'your life') into a single protection group, then LEFT and has been giving no instructions. He also has managed to give the impression that I am in one group when I am in another one entirely and I'm having to countermand orders. fos:Xenoneb.

I'm awesome, what else can I say?

Xenon is busy with RL. He said he would be gone for at least 15 hours in a PM.

[El Barto]

Of that you have no proof. What about the rest of my post?

[Populus Romanus]

Still need recruits, actually have a solid purpose for one.

Please contact ASAP. Tik tok on the clock, but the party don't stop, no....How do we know your group hasn't been infiltrated?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Of that you have no proof. What about the rest of my post?

How about me in general!

[Lord Winter]

Seems like I missed the first day. Hopefully it won't repeat.

email:
go packers 14 at gmail dot com
Note: all one word.

[dcmort93]

Did I miss anything?

[Askthepizzaguy]

How do we know your group hasn't been infiltrated?

It has, and my mafia family is already close to victory.

It is unavoidable now, you should just surrender, hyoo-mon.


Edit: Not sure why I just apparently became an alien. I'm going to roll with it anyway. No retreating!

[Xenoneb]

^T'is the sad truth.

[thefluffyone93]

Getting spammy.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/haterz-gonna-hate.jpg

Oh, I love irony.

[GamezRule]

ATPG, what are you doing, exactly? Recruiting mafia, I suppose? WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE MEE!!!

[Xenoneb]

Does that mean you are mafia?

[gibsonsg91921]

Seems like I missed the first day. Hopefully it won't repeat.

email:
go packers 14 at gmail dot com
Note: all one word.

like the email. go packers indeed.

my email has my real life name in it but i cleared out my PM box so i am just as accessible that way.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG, what are you doing, exactly? Recruiting mafia, I suppose? WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE MEE!!!

Why not? Already mafia I take it?

Beware, even if I were recruiting mafia, the town is still fat. They will eat you up if you oppose me, traitor! :evil:

[Erebus]

Why not? Already mafia I take it?

Beware, even if I were recruiting mafia, the town is still fat. They will eat you up if you oppose me, traitor! :evil:

Be careful around pins ATPG... someone might pop you :balloon2: :creep:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Note from Host:

Yes, all of you have special ability trait(s). NO, you are not supposed to reveal them. Capo is supposed to force you to say things like:

"Don't worry about it, I will take care of him. Just run the hit on Louis VI instead."

"How are you gonna "take care of him?"

"I cannot tell you."

Capo is supposed to be a hint uncertain at all times and more than a little paranoic. Or, as the NSA boys and girls say, "sure I'm being paranoid; but am I being paranoid enough?"

[Choxorn]

like the email. go packers indeed.

my email has my real life name in it but i cleared out my PM box so i am just as accessible that way.

So does mine, so I made a new one a while ago for mafia-related stuff (choxorn [at] live [dot] com, if you want to contact me).

[Askthepizzaguy]

A re-read of the rules, posted in the signup thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137555-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-IV-Sign-up-sheet&p=2053362771&viewfull=1#post2053362771), may do folks some good especially if the re-read is actually a read. :wink:

Red text is not to be repeated anywhere, to anyone. Refer to what Seamus said in the OP of the signup and in your roles.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Be careful around pins ATPG... someone might pop you :balloon2: :creep:

Are you threatening me, master Jedi?

[Erebus]

Are you threatening me, master Jedi?

Just saying... with all the inflation going around in your cranial region, pointy things are dangerous :brakelamp:

[Populus Romanus]

Just saying... with all the inflation going around in your cranial region, pointy things are dangerous :brakelamp:In order to stop pizza inflation, one must stop baking pizzas. In the short term, this results in the town suffering a pizza-recession. However, the long term benefits of cutting foreign pizza dependency are highly beneficial.

[El Barto]

Pizza, you are being completely ambiguous. It is tiem this was settled once and for all.

Are you mozzarella or parmiggiano?

[Visor]

Edit: No more spam.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, you are being completely ambiguous. It is tiem this was settled once and for all.

Are you mozzarella or parmiggiano?

As a claimed neutral, I'm not taking sides. I'm here for entertainment. I can be amused by either kind of cheese.

[El Barto]

Stop dodging the issue. What pizzas do you deliver? Mozzarella, Parmiggiano, or both?

[Jarema]

ATPG, please deliver pizza with kittens for my sweet doggie

[Clitsome]

Enough with the pizza talk, now I have to go for a pizza for lunch.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I, Mr. Cal King have unfairly had a mafia member reveal himself to me. I was PMing him in a back and forth thing while he was sending a PM to Seamus about his role and he accidentally switched them up. I have messaged him (or her, won't reveal) and we agreed for the sake of the game to keep it under wraps and not tell anyone of the mistake.

I want the mafia to have a fair go at it and so I will give them a month or two before I give away his name.

Why bother mentioning any of this? Well, I like saying my new name, Mr. Cal King and also it puts me in a position of power down the line if the town happens to be a bunch of screw ups.

[Sigurd]

Still need recruits, actually have a solid purpose for one.

Please contact ASAP. Tik tok on the clock, but the party don't stop, no....
I need to do some infiltration for the КГБ. So colour me interested.

[Visor]

Email address (For mafia, I'm not going to give you my real one unless I plan on talking to you after this game): ker-chop_tree [at] hotmail dot com

[J.D.]

So I am willing to join a group for power and glory..but also not against going it alone because I love being Town.

PM me if interested, no Mafia types please.

I may not check it right away, but will read the email notification I got almost immediately.

[Niklas]

If anyone is forming a vigilante group to kill off the spammers one by one - drop me a line. Will work for peace-of-mind.

[Captain Blackadder]

I, Mr. Cal King have unfairly had a mafia member reveal himself to me. I was PMing him in a back and forth thing while he was sending a PM to Seamus about his role and he accidentally switched them up. I have messaged him (or her, won't reveal) and we agreed for the sake of the game to keep it under wraps and not tell anyone of the mistake.

I want the mafia to have a fair go at it and so I will give them a month or two before I give away his name.

Why bother mentioning any of this? Well, I like saying my new name, Mr. Cal King and also it puts me in a position of power down the line if the town happens to be a bunch of screw ups.

I would recommend revealing it to one other person of your choice since should you mysteriously die tonight or tomorrow night then we can take out that scum since for the scum to target you for this is to me unsporting.

[Major Robert Dump]

Or a rival scum could take him out knowing that others will take out the rival scum thinking he is the scum scum.

[TheLastDays]

Keep the WIFOM rolling, boys.

Maybe protectionists should consider placing their money on acin for now.

[The Stranger]

I, Mr. Cal King have unfairly had a mafia member reveal himself to me. I was PMing him in a back and forth thing while he was sending a PM to Seamus about his role and he accidentally switched them up. I have messaged him (or her, won't reveal) and we agreed for the sake of the game to keep it under wraps and not tell anyone of the mistake.

I want the mafia to have a fair go at it and so I will give them a month or two before I give away his name.

Why bother mentioning any of this? Well, I like saying my new name, Mr. Cal King and also it puts me in a position of power down the line if the town happens to be a bunch of screw ups.

this sux.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Or a rival scum could take him out knowing that others will take out the rival scum thinking he is the scum scum.

MRD: For a fellow who has done capo less than some, you sure do get the gist of it well! :laugh4::bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, organized groups appear to be functioning well;

If you're missing people or would like one last shot at being part of a group, I am online now and we still have time.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just wanted to say Hi and wish good luck to everyone in this game! Hopefully, the town will win.

[johnhughthom]

FOS: The silly Estonian.


In no way related to the Estonian soccer teams recent hammering of Northern Ireland...

[Renata]

I'm hardly seeing any of my old CFC buddies on MSN -- if you're out there can you come by and say Hi? I miss you all. :(

[Askthepizzaguy]

You're hiding from me, too.... I feel disrespected.

What have I done to deserve this kind of shabby treatment? That does it, when I go out delivering pizzas tonight, and someone doesn't tip me, that will be the last straw.

I'm warning you....

[Frozen In Ice]

I have a new MSN. It is frozeninice10 [at] yahoo [dot] [com].

[Renata]

Thanks. :) I'll add you shortly.

[El Barto]

If anyone is forming a vigilante group to kill off the spammers one by one - drop me a line. Will work for peace-of-mind.
Have a line here. It's true, some people *glares at Estonian-hater who strangles kittens* give us no peace of mind.


I, Mr. Cal King have unfairly had a mafia member reveal himself to me. I was PMing him in a back and forth thing while he was sending a PM to Seamus about his role and he accidentally switched them up. I have messaged him (or her, won't reveal) and we agreed for the sake of the game to keep it under wraps and not tell anyone of the mistake.

I want the mafia to have a fair go at it and so I will give them a month or two before I give away his name.

Why bother mentioning any of this? Well, I like saying my new name, Mr. Cal King and also it puts me in a position of power down the line if the town happens to be a bunch of screw ups.I would recommend revealing it to one other person of your choice since should you mysteriously die tonight or tomorrow night then we can take out that scum since for the scum to target you for this is to me unsporting.
And if acin dies then this person could come out and finger whoever they wanted and direct a lynch? Are you serious?

You're hiding from me, too.... I feel disrespected.

What have I done to deserve this kind of shabby treatment? That does it, when I go out delivering pizzas tonight, and someone doesn't tip me, that will be the last straw.

I'm warning you....
You took over half an hour!!!! No tip for you, pizza boy!

[Chaotix]

The obvious answer is that ACIN has been made an offer he cannot refuse.

Either he joins that mafia family, or they'll kill him off soon.

Personally, I'm in favor of offing him within three rounds or so, but there's no need to waste a lynch on it.

Besides, gotta weaken those established families so that my up-and-coming one has a little more influence.

[El Barto]

Then… let's bonk acin?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You want to bonk him or boink him?

Count me out of either one. I'm too busy being a DJ by day and pizza delivery boy by night.

[Populus Romanus]

It would be a lot more conventient if we could call you AsktheDJ

[TheLastDays]

You want to bonk him or boink him?

Count me out of either one. I'm too busy being a DJ by day and pizza delivery boy by night.

Am I late to tell you that I want mine without Anchovi?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Am I late to tell you that I want mine without Anchovi?

I'm sorry but we're closed right now. If this is a call about an order you've already placed, please stay on the line and someone will be right with you.

Business hours are from start of day phase until 12 hours before night phase ends. After that, all bets are off.




Edit: List of contacts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137953-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-IV&p=2053372616&viewfull=1#post2053372616) updated again.

[fubbleskag]

Edit: List of contacts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137953-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-IV&p=2053372616&viewfull=1#post2053372616) updated again.I could have sworn I sent you my contact info by PM, but here it is again

Email: fubbleskag@speedofwood.com
AIM: fbblskg

[Askthepizzaguy]

I could have sworn I sent you my contact info by PM, but here it is again

Email: fubbleskag@speedofwood.com
AIM: fbblskg

Lost in the gigantic shuffle. Updated.

[SisterCoyote]

The gigantic shuffle? Is that a new dance step, like the Harlem shuffle only bigger?

[Raskolnikov]

I'm hardly seeing any of my old CFC buddies on MSN -- if you're out there can you come by and say Hi? I miss you all. :(

Hi!

@ATPG: can you add me to the contact list? :bow:

Good game folks!

[Askthepizzaguy]

How to Askthepizzaguy
Lesson One:



My inbox and instant messenger has been flooded with pleas from people who have stated their efforts at organizing have fallen to dust and have all been for naught. How do you do it, Askthepizzaguy, who has assembled no less than 8 groups despite stated neutrality and ambiguous ambition?

Well I want to tell you. Really, I do, so I don't become Town Dictator, Part II.

So I can retire.





I am Askthepizzaguy, and you can too!






First issue: "I can't find people! :sad:"

Resolutions:


Post in-thread that you're organizing vigilante groups, protection groups, and how many more you need.
Private message folks that have stated publicly "I have no one to work with, help me!" and invite them to your group.
Contact folks you like and have worked with you before. Cite your past experience.
Contact folks you have never worked with before, say you'd like to work with them now and start a long beautiful friendship.
Contact folks who hate your guts, offer to work with them. State that nobody would expect it, therefore it's devious enough to work!
Leave yourself un-invisible on the org.
Leave yourself un-invisible on your instant messengers.
Talk to anyone who is online. Don't leave anyone alone. Talk talk talk.
Post in-thread enough times that people understand you're an "active player".
Describe your vision of the future, people like leadership. They will follow a mad neutral with no plans even if he claims to have a plan which is to have no plan at all. That's at least stating your political platform for the record. Do it.

Finally:

Make them an offer they can't refuse. Either great reward, or blackmail. Obvious leverage is obvious.




Second issue: "People are dropping out of the groups I've made!"

Resolutions:


Ask them why they want to leave. Address their concerns. Wipe them off the face of the Earth.
Make groups of 5 wiseguys or 7 townies for vigilantism, and 5 townies for protectionism.
Overstaff, come up with 8 or 9 member groups, plan for dropouts, ask someone to drop out on purpose if you're still overstaffed, put them in a protection group of 3 after.
Become known as someone who forms groups that function and have members who send in orders.
Confirm each person has sent the order by having them send the order to you as well as Seamus, as well as other members of the group.
Verify, verify, verify.




Third issue: "People don't send orders, don't respond, or are inactive, so my groups failed!"



Begin forming your groups during the DAY PHASE. Make fully-staffed, maximum-staffed, even overstaffed groups EARLY.
Make sure everyone agrees on action, members, and target before night begins.
Make sure plans are done before 12 hours before night phase ends, so you can make adjustments.
Change the organization 12 hours before deadline if it is an emergency. Leave time for folks with real lives to alter orders.
Avoid altering orders at all costs.
People have real lives. Seek active people for groups that you can't afford to fail.
Interview people, ask them their goals and ambitions. Ask them if they're discriminatory based on who they protect, attack, or if they do either action at all.
Put people in groups they prefer to be in.
Put people in groups with people they prefer to work with.
Protect or vig people they prefer to vig or protect. Less objections that way.
Meet their needs. Don't order them around.
If they cannot decide by Night Phase what they're doing, give a suggested order, so they agree to do something, anything.





I'll take questions now.

Seriously, I don't want to be the only one who is successful at this. I also don't want to be Captain America this game as I said.

I'll assist you in what you want to do, whatever it is.

I won't run this town. I won't go mafia. Understand that. I'm neutral.

If you need help, contact me. Questions? Ask the pizzaguy. However, I want to see folks start taking lead of their own efforts so I can retire from being Captain America.

Captain America is dead. I need a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful.

Take this advice and run with it. This game is not all about Pizzaguy, so make it about you instead. I'll root for you.

[TinCow]

I won't run this town. I won't go mafia. Understand that. I'm neutral.

There's no such thing as neutral players. There are only players who haven't decided which side they think is going to win yet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's no such thing as neutral players. There are only players who haven't decided which side they think is going to win yet.

What was Twilightblade last time?

He never took a side.

It is tempting to pick sides, I want to see if I can actually go neutral/survivor and just survive.

Also, I have a plan in place which will prevent me from actually switching alignments. :eyebrows: You'll see...

[TinCow]

What was Twilightblade last time?

Bored

[GeneralHankerchief]

Also, I have a plan in place which will prevent me from actually switching alignments. :eyebrows: You'll see...

Do a bunch of kills/protections early on and accept the promotion, thereby locking you in?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bored

I'm too busy to be bored.

TB had a great idea, but I've taken it to its fullest flower. I intend to have fun, actual fun, this game and not worry about bogging myself down in pro-town duties and worrying about how to become mafia and all that rubbish. You know, I think someone once said, in the Pirate Ship game right after Capo, that I either didn't play to have fun or didn't know how or whatever. I can so too.

I am not going to be a bystander because I'm too much of a Pizzaguy to do that. But, I am also intrigued by the challenge of neutrality. Can it even work?

I don't know. I suppose I'll find out. But along the way I will have fun and be entertaining and whatnot. We'll see.




*Askthepizzaguy lynched Day Two*

[Montmorency]

10.Describe your vision of the future, people like leadership. They will follow a mad neutral with no plans even if he claims to have a plan which is to have no plan at all. That's at least stating your political platform for the record. Do it.

Look, I'll be blunt.

I get paid for killing the whole country. Killing people without a trial and taking over the whole city - that's what I'm about.

I see it like this. Everybody's gonna shoot it out. My wolf wins and takes over the whole country. My wolf can just execute anybody you want.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look, I'll be blunt.

I get paid for killing the whole country. Killing people without a trial and taking over the whole city - that's what I'm about.

I see it like this. Everybody's gonna shoot it out. My wolf wins and takes over the whole country. My wolf can just execute anybody you want.

I won't vote for you, or against you. I have no strong feelings either way.

Currently: Undecided.

I liked GH's platform of total ambiguity and no promises of helping anyone. That is the only thing which makes my neutral heart beat and my neutral other thing get excited.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do a bunch of kills/protections early on and accept the promotion, thereby locking you in?

That wouldn't be very nnnnnnnneutral of me.

[TinCow]

I am not going to be a bystander because I'm too much of a Pizzaguy to do that. But, I am also intrigued by the challenge of neutrality. Can it even work?

On a metaphysical level, yes. On a 'my role PM says I win this way' level, no. Personally, I always aim to have fun and win. :2thumbsup:

Besides, I think a true neutral ATPG wouldn't go around bragging about his uber neutrality anyway. You're just trying to avoid night kills. Not that that is a bad thing, it's certainly a good thing. It's just that I bet you're already locked in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Besides, I think a true neutral ATPG wouldn't go around bragging about his uber neutrality anyway

You don't know Askthepizzaguy very well, do you?

I could bring out the record book and investigate each game I was neutral one by one if you'd like... :book:

In summary: I was neutral, told everyone I was neutral, and repeated it ad infinitum.

[Chaotix]

Oh, come on, ATPG. Neutral is sooooo six months ago.

These days everybody's going for pseudo-anti-cults and competitive cutthroat team members and stuff like that.

You're behind with the times as usual.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, come on, ATPG. Neutral is sooooo six months ago.

Good, then I'll have the monopoly on awesome, as usual. :clown:

[TinCow]

Yarr! Thar be contradictions ahoy!


I am not going to be a bystander because I'm too much of a Pizzaguy to do that. But, I am also intrigued by the challenge of neutrality. Can it even work?

I don't know. I suppose I'll find out. But along the way I will have fun and be entertaining and whatnot. We'll see.


You don't know Askthepizzaguy very well, do you?
I could bring out the record book and investigate each game I was neutral one by one if you'd like... :book:

In summary: I was neutral, told everyone I was neutral, and repeated it ad infinitum.

So... you've been neutral so many times that you've got a consistent pattern of neutral behavior... but now you're challenged by the intrigue of neutrality and wonder if it can work?

Don't worry, I'm not going to go all me on you. At least not yet. But I still don't think you're neutral. I've seen you do this many times; claiming neutrality to the heavens while pursuing a very specific goal the entire time. If you want a real challenge in Capo, pick a side on Day 1 and don't deviate from that course regardless of the consequences. In this game, it's taking a stand that's hard.

[Diamondeye]

I won't vote for you, or against you. I have no strong feelings either way.

Currently: Undecided.

I liked GH's platform of total ambiguity and no promises of helping anyone. That is the only thing which makes my neutral heart beat and my neutral other thing get excited.


http://youtu.be/ussCHoQttyQ

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yarr! Thar be contradictions ahoy!

Thar be nitpickers ahoy.


So... you've been neutral so many times that you've got a consistent pattern of neutral behavior... but now you're challenged by the intrigue of neutrality and wonder if it can work?

Thing is, I've been neutral in games where the game was much smaller, or the neutrals could get recruited, or the neutral was turned into the SK against his will, etc....

I am consistent, but you're looking for reasons to pick at me. :tongue2:


Don't worry, I'm not going to go all me on you.

*sighs disappointedly, dangly bits go back into hiding*

So close to having a good time, and you have to abstain?


At least not yet. But I still don't think you're neutral.

As in, my role or my ambitions?


I've seen you do this many times; claiming neutrality to the heavens while pursuing a very specific goal the entire time. If you want a real challenge in Capo, pick a side on Day 1 and don't deviate from that course regardless of the consequences. In this game, it's taking a stand that's hard.

Oh you.

Suppose for the moment I choose neutrality as my goal. Suppose that is my stand.

That's much, much harder to follow through on with the temptations around me. Take it from a RL teetotaler, peer pressure is a powerful thing, and so is group mentality and being an outsider is harder than following the crowd. I dislike having my choices be A or B and those choices essentially forced on me by circumstances and peer pressure and luck of the draw. Choice C is much more difficult and it is my choice, no one is pressuring me into it, and it presents the single greatest challenge, to me.

Being townie is easy. I could just go surgeon, easy. Easy easy.

Being mafia is easy. I could go mafia any time I wanted to. Easy easy.

Being neutral is hard. It's a political battle, a personal struggle, and it's a very fine line.... and I'm already endangering it by helping people instead of going apathetic neutral like TB. That would be easier but boring.

Anyway. This debate is too meta. I'd rather go back IC for my radio show coming up.

[gibsonsg91921]

In Capo III I remember thinking ATPG's braggadocio was out of the ordinary, having not played Mafia for a while. I can vouch for the typicality of Mr. Guy's performance.

[TinCow]

Thar be nitpickers ahoy.

You were expecting a different TinCow?


Being townie is easy. I could just go surgeon, easy. Easy easy.

Being mafia is easy. I could go mafia any time I wanted to. Easy easy.

Being neutral is hard. It's a political battle, a personal struggle, and it's a very fine line.... and I'm already endangering it by helping people instead of going apathetic neutral like TB. That would be easier but boring.

I disagree. Going surgeon is very hard. How many townies have successfully accomplished that? One or two ever? Going mafia is also very hard. scottishranger managed it in Capo 2, but his 'Holy Grail' achievement is certainly not the norm. Neutral is the norm in Capo. People tend to keep their options open until they think one side has an advantage, their choices are removed, or they get killed/lynched. If you want true difficulty, take scottishranger's path and try to become an independent Don. You can do neutrality anywhere, but it's only in Capo that you can pick your own fate like that. That's what makes this game so superb. It's Choose Your Own Adventure Mafia.

[Craterus]

Yeah, it's not like it was given to him on a plate or anything...

[classical_hero]

So all my gut is telling me is, maybe.

[gibsonsg91921]

Yeah, it's not like it was given to him on a plate or anything... While scotty was probably the more qualified, it was basically a coin flip between me and him who would be Capo. But history will only remember Mr. Ranger... It's okay because my hand was held throughout that game. Scotty was a true warrior.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You'll always be Capo in my heart, Gibbo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You were expecting a different TinCow?

I disagree. Going surgeon is very hard. How many townies have successfully accomplished that? One or two ever?

Easy, no one bothers to try is the only reason it hasn't happened more.

People prefer vigilantism. Also, we were opposed to the idea of protect/vig groups in Capo III after The Stranger's failed attempt. We stopped trying for most of the game.

But it works. Not only does it work but I successfully helped pop some doctors out in Capo III in the endgame where it's harder to do it because there are less people involved and willing. And we promoted a surgeon. These were afterthoughts, not even our main objectives, TC. Afterthoughts.

Now, 117 people, 15-20 rounds of play, and masses of folks willing to do either one? Please. I'll have 3 surgeons that I had a hand in making by the middlegame.


Going mafia is also very hard.

Tincow, you're officially Tinbull now. Any wiseguy can do it with minimal time and effort. In Capo III, the reason it didn't happen more was because the morale of the town was always so high, it was difficult to convince people to go mafia.

Now, with no incorruptibles besides power roles, I laugh at the notion that town even has a chance unless it does the part where I said the thing with the surgeons and stuff. You know, with the planning ahead.


Anywho. I see we're not going to agree. That's fine, we rarely do, and you're usually right. But I tell you this Tincow, between the two of us, one is usually correct, and I think I've got your number this time.

[Chaotix]

So now we all know that ATPG is going rogue detective.

He still wants to be the CIA Man and is slightly disappointed that he won't get a chance to go the other route offered as opposed to being townie hero.

So R-D is the next best thing.

Very good, ATPG, thank you for tellygraphing your motives to us without deliberately saying anything.

You better shoot me a PM so we can discuss world domination.

[Craterus]

@Gibson: My point was that the events leading up to it were well beyond his control. But for an oversight on my part, the original C____ family would've won the game. And I believe you were both recruits of that family either way.

[gibsonsg91921]

we had them strung along the whole time. i still have PMs saying we are joining them so we don't die and then killing them off. in the end, the town killed the Don for us, IIRC. the surviving members joined us. :nod:

[Askthepizzaguy]

So now we all know that ATPG is going rogue detective.

---

Very good, ATPG, thank you for tellygraphing your motives to us without deliberately saying anything.

You better shoot me a PM so we can discuss world domination.

I swear, I could play in 100 games and you folks who think you know me will continue to believe it and continue to be wrong. :laugh4:

You can't, read, me. This is going to become a mafia RULE soon.

[gibsonsg91921]

GH is the real hero. He is like the Godfather of this whole mafia business, if you will.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hey gibs?

Can you do me a favor?

Quick thing, bit of a mental itch I have, I need you to scratch.

You know where in your signature line you're inviting people to the Capo game? [Nicely done, btw, and thank you]

I think signups for that Capo ended a while back.

Specifically, two years ago. :laugh4:

[Populus Romanus]

LOL!

[gibsonsg91921]

Can do buddy. You can tell I haven't been around for a while. And the last mafia game I played I forgot I joined. I'm lucky I wasn't locked in Azkaban for that unforgivable crime. It's like shaving points in pro sports.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Much better. Scottishranger will be pleased.

[scottishranger]

While scotty was probably the more qualified, it was basically a coin flip between me and him who would be Capo. But history will only remember Mr. Ranger... It's okay because my hand was held throughout that game. Scotty was a true warrior.


awww i luv you too Gibson!


Yeah, it's not like it was given to him on a plate or anything...

Ill admit I got lucky at times. But I really dont even remember all the things I did in that game. It was pretty crazy

[Renata]

Hah! Thanks, actually; I've never read Capo II.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am wearing my big floppy clown shoes for this game. :bounce:

[Monk]

I am wearing my big floppy clown shoes for this game. :bounce:

No doubt it's helped garner all that attention.. :wink:

[White_eyes:D]

I swear, I could play in 100 games and you folks who think you know me will continue to believe it and continue to be wrong. :laugh4:

You can't, read, me. This is going to become a mafia RULE soon. I get tired of mafia players who think they can never be predicted. Everyone has two options, do the smart, logical thing or do the unpredictable stupid thing. Sometimes the stupid thing is better, like being a townie but vig-killing from night-one, thinking its pro-town. Smart thing would be to get into a protect group and avoid vig groups like the plague or even claim neutrality, like your doing.

Everyone really needs mostly luck and some skill but all iron ones to claim any kind of accomplishment in Capo. If someone wants to do something original, be the last man standing as a SK. I don't think anyone has done that.:clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I get tired of mafia players who think they can never be predicted.

Then tell me what my plans are, great swami.

[White_eyes:D]

Then tell me what my plans are, great swami. I said predicting not mind-reading.:laugh4:

It's obvious your going to wait until you see what side is winning/losing and see how you can profit most from it.

Pizzaguys plan:
1.Claim neutrality
2.?????
3.Profit

[classical_hero]

So now we all know that ATPG is going rogue detective.

He still wants to be the CIA Man and is slightly disappointed that he won't get a chance to go the other route offered as opposed to being townie hero.

So R-D is the next best thing.

Very good, ATPG, thank you for tellygraphing your motives to us without deliberately saying anything.

You better shoot me a PM so we can discuss world domination.
What is wrong with a Rogue Detective? They can perform scans on other people, which is quite important in this game. That should be encouraged, should Pizza be gunning for that.

I swear, I could play in 100 games and you folks who think you know me will continue to believe it and continue to be wrong. :laugh4:

You can't, read, me. This is going to become a mafia RULE soon.I doubt very much you have a poker face.

[scottishranger]

What is wrong with a Rogue Detective? They can perform scans on other people, which is quite important in this game. That should be encouraged, should Pizza be gunning for that.
I doubt very much you have a poker face.

Rogue Detectives are called "rogue" for a reason. We dont want any more loose cannons than we already have

[Xenoneb]

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[Askthepizzaguy]

I said predicting not mind-reading.:laugh4:

It's obvious your going to wait until you see what side is winning/losing and see how you can profit most from it.

Can't read my, can't read my, no you can't read my.....






Off to work. My first shift as manager! YAY!!!!

[White_eyes:D]

Rogue Detectives are called "rogue" for a reason. We dont want any more loose cannons than we already haveThat role is tempting though....I know if I had a shot at it, I would take it(As would most here). Looking at the requirements though, it might be better to be a doctor/wiseguy overall.:shrug:

[Montmorency]

Can do buddy. You can tell I haven't been around for a while. And the last mafia game I played I forgot I joined. I'm lucky I wasn't locked in Azkaban for that unforgivable crime. It's like shaving points in pro sports.

Yep, you were WOGed in that game. The only scum down, actually. :shame:

[gibsonsg91921]

Did the scum still win that one? I guess all's well that ends well :P I went to the forum to see if Capo was starting soon and I saw I had 8 PM's panicking and telling me I messed up. Completely unforgivable still, but I'm glad I didn't fully ruin it for the team.

[a completely inoffensive name]

And if acin dies then this person could come out and finger whoever they wanted and direct a lynch? Are you serious?


The obvious answer is that ACIN has been made an offer he cannot refuse.

Either he joins that mafia family, or they'll kill him off soon.

Personally, I'm in favor of offing him within three rounds or so, but there's no need to waste a lynch on it.

Alright, so I will tell two people. I will wait until it becomes obvious that two individuals don't have similar goals and tell the two of them who it is. Then neither can lie to get a free lynch on their own personal target, because the other person will expose them.

All in all I find it funny how I say, "I accidentally got some info about the mafia." Then some people's first reaction is, "Let's kill ACIN!"

And by the way my name in this game isn't ACIN, it is Mr. Cal King. Get it right people.

As I said, the only reason I am not saying it right now is for the spirit of the game. Literally starting off 1 man down is terrible for the mafia, especially if that person has a key specialty. After a month, I will pick my two people and reveal if the person hasn't been exposed yet.

[a completely inoffensive name]

And in case you are wondering, I know first hand what it is like losing someone as mafia in the very beginning. I am not talking out of my *** here. Happened last game I was in with Seon dying night 3 or something. That sucked.

[gibsonsg91921]

something about that name you give us doesn't feel right. I almost repeated it but I am afraid that would mark me for some craziness. I guess what I am trying to say is, to me it's not *puts on shades* a completely inoffensive name.

[Xenoneb]

10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...Morning!!

[a completely inoffensive name]

something about that name you give us doesn't feel right. I almost repeated it but I am afraid that would mark me for some craziness. I guess what I am trying to say is, to me it's not *puts on shades* a completely inoffensive name.

It's my pimp name.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Actually, I have a reading contest going on and these mafia games drain a lot of time...

Mr. Cal King is my mafia name. Please kill me.

[GeneralHankerchief]

FYI, Post #2 of the summary thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137997-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-IV-Information-and-Story-Summary-Thread.) has been updated with the game's rules so you don't have to dig for the signup thread to find it.

[Populus Romanus]

So when is the update coming?

[Zack]

The very second you log off the org. :beam:

[El Barto]

'Course. GMs love playing mind games with their players.


Off to work. My first shift as manager! YAY!!!!
Who's the nutter who's made you of all people be responsible for something that doesn't involve killing people at night and lynching them by day?

[Double A]

If I get N1 killed again, I swear to god I will...

Wait, I can't say that on the org and live.

[johnhughthom]

Who's the nutter who's made you of all people be responsible for something that doesn't involve killing people at night and lynching them by day?

You've clearly never had pizza delivered in Florida.

[Kagemusha]

While scotty was probably the more qualified, it was basically a coin flip between me and him who would be Capo. But history will only remember Mr. Ranger... It's okay because my hand was held throughout that game. Scotty was a true warrior.

Mafia Don´s whisper coming from beyond: "Two lowsy backstabbers id say.Kids these days, no honooouuuurrrr."

[Backwards Logic]

And in case you are wondering, I know first hand what it is like losing someone as mafia in the very beginning. I am not talking out of my *** here. Happened last game I was in with Seon dying night 3 or something. That sucked.

If you're referring to ATPG's The Revengening, no it didn't suck for you. Seon was dead, yet could keep killing and flew under the radar for the entire game, racking up 'free' kill after kill. No, him dying that early helped give you the win, as no one ever suspected him of still killing until it was too late.

[El Barto]

If I get N1 killed again, I swear to god I will...

Wait, I can't say that on the org and live.
*takes out a puuko and whetstone*

You've clearly never had pizza delivered in Florida.
I beg for pizza!! With anchovies!
https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7606/catinakilt.png

But I've never been to Florida -couldn't stand the heat- or any other part of the US.

Mafia Don´s whisper coming from beyond: "Two lowsy backstabbers id say.Kids these days, no honooouuuurrrr."
All you want is to wet your beak. This can eb understood-a.

[naut]

Off to work. My first shift as manager! YAY!!!!
You got your promote on? Nice. :thumbsup:

[Double A]

*takes out a puuko and whetstone*

I beg for pizza!! With anchovies!
https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7606/catinakilt.png

But I've never been to Florida -couldn't stand the heat- or any other part of the US.

All you want is to wet your beak. This can eb understood-a.

*takes out bastard sword and targe*

[Kagemusha]

All you want is to wet your beak. This can eb understood-a.

Read the story and find out. These games make for great ones.

[Seon]

If you're referring to ATPG's The Revengening, no it didn't suck for you. Seon was dead, yet could keep killing and flew under the radar for the entire game, racking up 'free' kill after kill. No, him dying that early helped give you the win, as no one ever suspected him of still killing until it was too late.

I knew my constant complaining of ByzKnight's weight would earn me a victory in the end :tongue:

[El Barto]

*takes out bastard sword and targe*
Why use our weapons, Battery-man?

Read the story and find out. These games make for great ones.
'The story' as in 'the other three Capo games'? Hmm, should temporarily halt RL.exe. Bit of a problem really.

[a completely inoffensive name]

If you're referring to ATPG's The Revengening, no it didn't suck for you. Seon was dead, yet could keep killing and flew under the radar for the entire game, racking up 'free' kill after kill. No, him dying that early helped give you the win, as no one ever suspected him of still killing until it was too late.

Seon had the 2 person recruit item. If Renata had not stolen it, then we would have lost it anyway. That item was our fail safe and we lost it 3 days in.

If you want to talk about what costed you the game, blame the fact you guys believed me enough to go after Earthling... :shrug: Also the fact that I blatantly told you Seon was killing from the dead and you didn't believe me.

[ByzantineKnight]

I knew my constant complaining of ByzKnight's weight would earn me a victory in the end :tongue:

Hey now, I wasn't that fat :tongue:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

“In the end we’ll all wake up at heaven’s door
Always tryin’ to decipher what’s best for our lives
Till we’re flying in superhyper for sunnier skies
Only questions, never answers to what it’s all for
Tragedy and ecstasy start feeling all the same
Hiding from your majesty when you call my name
Don’t I wanta know what keeps my vision blind
Thinkin’ I can tell how best to survive”
….Comedy of Errors
….Saklad


Night One -- The Streets of Fatlington


When a good number of the committee suggested that Captain Blackadder go with them to Club 30, Blackadder politely begged off and went to his car for the ride home. Heading South on Atlantic Avenue, he'd gotten only a few blocks from the Convention Center when a cab stopped suddenly in front of his car. He slammed on his brakes and came to a stop, but the car behind him plowed forward anyway, sandwiching the vehicles together. Cursing, Blackadder began to work the door handle when two further cars screeched to a halt on either side of his Packard, scaping its sides as they huddled close.

<<Boxed in,>> he thought. Blackadder saw all four of the other drivers drop below their windshields out of sight. <<Oh, sh...>>

The thought remained forever unfinished as the PIAT round fired by the fifth attacker from the roof above vented the full force of its 2.5 pounds of shaped-charge explosive through the skin of the vehicle and into Captain Blackadder. The other drivers quickly exited their damaged vehicles and fled the scene.


In the shadow of the boardwalk at the edge of Seaside Park, one man walking home from the convention center encountered a lone man wearing a black trenchcoat, muffler, and a gray homburg. There were no sudden moves or hints of violence, only a brief and hushed conversation. At the end of the discussion, the man in the homburg produced a card with a local telephone exchange number o n it.

“If you’re interested, contact me and we’ll finalize things.”

The first man nodded politely without replying, and continued his walk through the park and to home.


Raskolnikov was sitting in the living room of his brick townhouse, watching "I Love Lucy" and laughing at the antics of Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. His tummy began to growl. The food on the television screen was making him hungry! It was time to order something, but what? Burgers? Chinese food? No, perhaps something more fitting.... maybe an Italian place was still open. As Raskolnikov thumbed through the yellow pages, he realized that it was the middle of the dinner rush -- probably too late in the evening for a fancy place to still have a table open. That's when he realized.... that pizza delivery place down the street was open past 10pm! His pangs of hunger increasing, Raskolnikov dialed, his sweaty fingers threatening to slip with each spin of the dial.

"Mizza Mut Pizza, Fatlington's sauciest pizza, may I take your order?" said the squeaky adolescent voice.

"Yes, I would like to order 10 large sausage and pepperoni pizzas, 5 milkshakes, and a half-dozen of your meatball sandwiches. And don't skimp on the plates and napkins! I don't have time to wash dishes OR bathe," said Raskolnikov.

"Certainly, your total will be $34.75, and it will be there in about thirty minutes!"

“ Hold on, wait.... "$34.75?" asked Raskolnikov, "Isn't that extremely cheap?"

“Not at all, actually. It's 1951, silly buns. This is the most expensive meal you'll ever eat."

And so Raskolnikov flipped open his wallet and found the cash for the feast, and waited and waited and waited patiently. It seemed like it was taking forever. Where was that pizza guy? He couldn't wait much longer, the fury within him demanded an explanation. His trembling fingers once again dialed the number and soon, the familiar squeaky voice responded with the familiar greeting.

"Yes, this is Mister Raskol P. Raskolnikov down on Oriental, I ordered pizza from you over an hour ago and I demand to know what is taking so long?" he bellowed.

"Sir, that was five minutes ago."

"Oh" said Raskolnikov, feeling a bit disappointed. "So I guess it's not free then?" he asked, hopefully.

"No, sir, I can't do that."

{i}Feeling dejected and disappointed, Raskolnikov hung up the phone. His patience had not been rewarded after all, and now, he was in a horrible mood. Only one thing to do[/I]....

>ding dong<

And sure enough, just as he was about to give up hope, and precisely 25 minutes from the time he ordered, the pizza had arrived at long last. There were two men standing at the door, holding the stacks of pizzas and sandwiches.

"That will be $34.75, mister Raskolnikov!" said one of the men from behind a stack of steaming boxes.

"Well it's about time!"

Raskol grabbed the boxes of pizzas, the sandwiches, the milkshakes, and the pile of plates and napkins, and made sure the order was correct, given that it was so late, it was obviously made wrong too. No, surprisingly, everything was still hot and made correctly, so Raskolnikov grudgingly admitted that he should pay full price, even though it was so very, very late.

"Here you go. Here's thirty four dollars and....."

[I} Raskolnikov grabbed his change jar, and began counting out pennies and nickels as slowly as humanly possible. A good 5 minutes later, the pizza men were handed exactly 34 dollars and seventy-five cents.

<<No, wait! What's this?>> Raskolnikov took a bite of his pizza and a smile spread across his face. His heart grew three sizes that night, and he began digging into his pockets for something to tip the driver with. And sure enough, he heard the metallic jingling of coins in his pocket, and pulled out a fistful of more change. He began counting it very carefully, weighing how generous he was going to be.

"Here you go gentlemen. Here's a fiver for your trouble."

He handed one of the pizza guys a shiny nickel, to split between them, and slammed the door. Five minutes later, he heard the door bell ring again.

>ding dong<



"OH MY GOD IT BURNS! IT BURNS!!!"

[I] But that wasn't the end of it. More and more slices of pizza were being flung at the fat greasy man, who had in his infinite wisdom decided to come to his door wearing only his favorite unwashed pair of tighty-whities. The ones with the gaping holes in it. His skin was covered in melting cheese and burning hot pizza sauce, and he slammed the door.

"No, you can keep the change, you filthy cock-a-roach!" said one of the pizza delivery men, both of whom were now clad in trenchcoats and fedoras. They lifted up their Tommy guns and began blasting bullet holes in the flimsy wooden door, shooting out all the windows, and carving their nicknames into the brick building itself, and spraying bursts in Raskolnikov’s direction as well.

"Thanks for ordering, call us again soon!"

Raskolnikov dove under a couch and cried like a little girl until the disgruntled pizza men went away. Somehow, he escaped with his life.... just barely.


Near the Hotel Abbatoir, Earthling had just walked into the cool night air again after a nightcap at the hotel bar, when several men in trenchcoats and low slung hats stepped out of the trees and bushes of seaside park, drawing Tommy guns from their coats as they moved forward.

As they moved forward, two figures slammed open car doors and leapt on the gunman from either side. Three of the four would-be shooters were knocked down and had their guns kicked away by the rapidly retreating pair of tacklers. There was nobody to stop the fourth shooter, however, who moved toward Earthling and triggered a burst of fire.

Earthling had already made a start backwards toward the hotel doors. The gunmen fired behind him as Earthling sprinted through the door, almost as if he were “herding” him with gunfire. Nothing and nobody impeded Earthling’s escape, however, as he vaulted the main desk and ran out the back office exit on the far side of the Hotel.

Frustrated, the four shooters quickly left the scene, fading into the gloom of Fatlington.


Slash and earn was striding down the boardwalk, his pace suggesting frustration at something or someone, when his walk home was interrupted. The first shooter simply popped up a stairwell from the beach side of the boardwalk, leveling a revolver of some kind and holding some kind of business card.

>Clang…Clang<

went the two soft-nosed slugs as they ricocheted off the steel plates in his overcoat. Slash was staggered but unharmed by the shots. Two figures leapt up behind the gunman, knocking him off the raised boardwalk and into the sands, leaving the business card to flutter off in the breeze.

The Second gunman, positioned on the roof of an apartment block about a block away, saw the failure of his associate, figured the target to be armored, and eased the sights upward to head height. He never even squeezed the trigger a third figure leapt onto the boardwalk and knocked slash and earn to the boards and behind a concrete and board bench as he was lining up the shot. He quickly dropped the weapon and made his escape across the rooftops. Though chased for a little while, his partner made good his escape as well. Slash, dazed by the episode, wondered who he should thank for the armor plating…and the knot on his head from when he was knocked down.


Askthepizzaguy was walking from the cinema house, still chuckling over the Bugs Bunny cartoon he’d just seen, when the attack came. The first he knew it was an attack was when the baseball bat hit him behind the left knee and folded his legs under him. The Balaclava-wearing batsman was bringing up the bat to smash in the supine Pizza’s face when a gunshot took the bat right out of his hands. A second shot hammered into the batsman’s body armor, staggering him behind the movie ticket kiosk that Pizzaguy had just passed.

Seeing the failure of their designated hitter, a quartet of shoots opened up on Pizza from the middle of the street in front of the theatre. Pizza, low on the ground, would have made an easy target if it were not for the sudden arrival of three cars, each screeching to a halt between the shooters and Askthepizzaguy. Oddly, the third car was a bit behind the others, as though catching up to cover a missing car. Of the thirty-two rounds fired by the shooters, none reached him where he was, low to the ground behind the covering cars, though 5 other movie patrons were hit, three fatally.

With sirens announcing the approach of the police, the shooters rapidly departed the scene, followed almost as quickly by the protectors. His leg aching, Askthepizzaguy found himself staring up at the other movie patrons, all watching him and the other victims in a sort of stunned fascination. Pizza broke the momentary silence.

“B’duh, b’duh, b’duh…that’s all folks.”


Knife wounds are kind of unusual, as Slysnakehad just found out. You can be cut and bleedinf for a surprising amount of time before you realize you’ve been wounded. He collapsed in the street, only a few steps from the entrance of the City Library.

“This isn’t good at all,” he said, collapsing into the arms of some unknown Fatling matron, “not good at all.”

.


9:52AM, Tuesday, 30 October 1951
The Executive Meeting Room (Small Ballroom)
Fatlington Convention Center
Fatlington, New Jersey


“…so anyway, the ambulance got him over to Mercy Hospital in time, but he lost a lot of blood and certainly won’t be attending today’s meeting.”

[I]Fermanagh looked grimly around the room.

“That’s several attacks we noted, one of them successful. You’ve got to do your best to root out those Mafiosi and bring them to justice. I don’t know how much longer we can count on them staying uncoordinated. General?”

Generalhankerchief strode to the podium dressed in dark “morning” gray, somber and all too appropriate for the harsh business at hand. A quick glance noting that there were no initial questions, he gaveled the Committee into loose session for the mid-day.

OOC

Day Two, and its lynch vote, begins. Phase ends:

Remember, do NOT edit a post with a vote in it; post the change in a separate post.



Attacked: Askthepizzaguy (n1), Earthling (n1), Raskolnikov (n1), Slash and earn (n1)

Wounded: Slysnake (n1)

Killed: Captain Black Adder (n1)

Lynched: Nobody

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[Seamus Fermanagh]

OOC

Sleepy. Official success/cerdit pms and investigation results on the morrow as rapidly as schedule allows. Thanks.

[Captain Blackadder]

Damn it the one time I get first night killed and its in Capo. I volunteer for any replacing that needs doing.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, time to direct.

Everybody vote for everybody else.

Go.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Oh, and whoever led the attack on Raskolnikov last night, let Seamus do the writeups from now on, he's better at it. :yes:

[Tratorix]

Vote: slash and earn

Protected N1 = possible don. :yes:

[Montmorency]

He was protected by 3 individuals, not 1. Also, what about the others? Are they dons as well?

[Tratorix]

Oops, only noticed one of them in the write up. Carry on. Unvote: slash and earn

Now, Vote: Montmorency for making me look stupid.

[Earthling]

Yeah that's foolish when you don't count the number of people involved. He was protected by at least three, so probably townies, not just one Luca.

Likewise we assume the 5 killer groups had some townies involved, except a couple of kills were less than five, so those had to be Wiseguys or mafia.

Great that there were so many successful protections (and Ras somehow lucky, and a wounding that's unexpected and weird, but what are you going to do).

I don't have leads on who to vote for though, maybe some detectives or people who just heard something could eventually spread the word down and we could of course aim to tie up a couple of guilty/criminal candidates if necessary so they can both be lynched.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm, a number of interesting things.


Burgers? Chinese food? No, perhaps something more fitting.... maybe an Italian place was still open.

I forget, does capo have clues in the writeups?

Looks like someone was setting up attack defend groups. Someone bailed from both the kill and protect group on earthling, and the defenders on slysnake messed up their orders.


Vote:Earthling that last post is suspicious. "I don't know, maybe the detectives will have a guilty???" is classic mafia trying to avoid scumhunting.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Why were you protected Earthling?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Mr Culkin, why don't you add a vote for Earthling?

[GeneralHankerchief]

@Sasaki that writeup pretty obviously wasn't done by Seamus, so I wouldn't take anything from it.

[Major Robert Dump]

Having performed a successful scan on myself last night I have concluded that I am, in fact, not mafia.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Lol new policy. Mr. Cal King is going to be completely honest for this game, and if I die, oh well. I got books to read.

I was part of the attack group on Earthling. Trying to satisfy my symmetry that I explained earlier. I can verify Sasaki's suggestion that someone bailed. It wasn't a bail though, but someone sent in their order 60 seconds too late after the timer.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Mr Culkin, why don't you add a vote for Earthling?

Vote: Earthling

Bluff called.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Having performed a successful scan on myself last night I have concluded that I am, in fact, not mafia.

LIES. Even successful scans are not 100% accurate. Scummy, Mc. Scum Scum.

[Earthling]

Vote: ACIN

You realize you're admitting to not being a townie, right? Only four attackers means that one wasn't a townie group, it was scum/Wiseguys.

I don't know who was involved in protecting me and won't pretend to, but everyone knows you gotta support the carry and protect from gankers :2thumbsup:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Also, why is everyone spelling "Cal King" as "Culkin"? It is "Cal" like California and "King" like King. It is the largest sized bed you can buy and it sounds like pimp name, not "Culkin".

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You realize you're admitting to not being a townie, right?

You just confessed to being mafia.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Vote: ACIN

You realize you're admitting to not being a townie, right? Only four attackers means that one wasn't a townie group, it was scum/Wiseguys.

I don't know who was involved in protecting me and won't pretend to, but everyone knows you gotta support the carry and protect from gankers :2thumbsup:

Not really. ATPG threw in another person to make sure it would succeed in case someone failed to get orders in. I don't give a ****, I will list everyone involved right now if someone else besides you asks.

[Earthling]

You can do that but you should name the (pretend) mafia contact you won't reveal if you really want to get yourself out of a lynch.

I could see Sasaki's reading of it on both the protection/attack side especially if he had advance knowledge, but not knowing anyone involved don't care about people who bailed either, probably not much of a lead yet.

[a completely inoffensive name]

You can do that but you should name the (pretend) mafia contact you won't reveal if you really want to get yourself out of a lynch.

I could see Sasaki's reading of it on both the protection/attack side especially if he had advance knowledge, but not knowing anyone involved don't care about people who bailed either, probably not much of a lead yet.

You don't seem to understand. I don't care if I get lynched. I have no stake in this game. I got info I shouldn't have and I have a contest I gotta tackle on and this game unfortunately takes up a lot of time because I like to get invested in them.

I have put myself out here with a big target on my back and you have taken the bait of using me to throw the heat off of you. You are tip toeing around and I am walking around spouting words and garbage for attention. Now who is the scummy one here?

Whatever. I wanted to kill you for fun, because of a joke I had planned, but obviously my symmetry actually came true and you are mafia. However, I am not actually that excited to go another 12 verbal rounds with you like last game. So whatevs. Lynch me.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Also, keep in mind you now need 5 to vig-kill someone, not 4. Somebody not getting their orders in on time in that group would be enough to jeopardize the attack, with or without protection.

[Visor]

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

[Jarema]

Not really. ATPG threw in another person to make sure it would succeed in case someone failed to get orders in. I don't give a ****, I will list everyone involved right now if someone else besides you asks.

Hmmm. It does NOT explain anything... why your group was so SMALL???
Vote: ACIN
I have strong conviction he is either mafia or wiseguy

[Tratorix]

I will list everyone involved right now if someone else besides you asks.

I would like to see this list.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hmm hold on. I thought it took 4 to vig kill.

[Earthling]

There's no real heat on anyone, besides Sasaki's interpretations of events whatever he was involved in or not and you trying to kill townies for fun. The town had a lot of success and keeping the kills down is wonderful in all ways towards giving town roles time and preventing more from progressing to mafia.

Refusing to reveal a supposed mafia and wanting to give up is the best choice an evidence-less lynch makes for those of us who have no way to get better leads. And I'd be ok to avoid that lynch for something better to do too.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hmm hold on. I thought it took 4 to vig kill.

4 only if everyone's a wiseguy. 5 if townies are involved.

From my interpretation of things, 5 people attacked Earthling but someone didn't get their orders in on time so it went down to 4, thus not meeting the required amount of people and allowing Earthling to escape.

God I'm so smart. It's such a good thing I'm Director.

[Earthling]

Also, keep in mind you now need 5 to vig-kill someone, not 4. Somebody not getting their orders in on time in that group would be enough to jeopardize the attack, with or without protection.

Guessing this'll crosspost with still more stuff, but like others have just noted ACIN's posts strongly sounded to me like he believed their kill would succeed with less than the five that would be needed as townies

[a completely inoffensive name]

"I am gonna kill Earthling along with these people: Neri ; Crazed Rabbit; Diana Abnoba; Khaan


​And I am gonna laugh when he dies first night...hopefully."

Forgot about Neri participating because Neri has never talked to me. Crazed Rabbit sent his order in too late. As I have said before, go ahead and lynch me. I got books to read and a book blog to start.

I will hover around and answer questions, but otherwise I'm going inactive for tonight.

[a completely inoffensive name]

There's no real heat on anyone, besides Sasaki's interpretations of events whatever he was involved in or not and you trying to kill townies for fun. The town had a lot of success and keeping the kills down is wonderful in all ways towards giving town roles time and preventing more from progressing to mafia.

Refusing to reveal a supposed mafia and wanting to give up is the best choice an evidence-less lynch makes for those of us who have no way to get better leads. And I'd be ok to avoid that lynch for something better to do too.

last post for today besides answering questions.

A. Killing townies for fun is what I do when no one gives me orders.
B. I will continue to refuse to reveal the mafia player because there are 110+ players and so few mafia percentage wise, and to expose him first day is lame for the game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

2400 Plaza del Universo
Radio City building, Suite 501
Fatlington, New Jersey





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3hH8LG4Yw





Take me down to the paradise city
Where the grass is green
And the girls are pretty
Take me home (Oh, won't you please take me home)

Strapped in the chair of the city's gas chamber
Why I'm here, I can't quite remember
The surgoen general say's it's hazardous to breathe
I'd have another cigarette
But I can't see
Tell me that you're gonna believe

Take me down to the paradise city
Where the grass is green
And the girls are pretty
Take me home (Oh, won't you please take me home)

Captain America's been torn apart
Now he's a court jester
With a broken heart
He said turn me around
And take me back to the start
I must be losing my mind
"Are you blind?!"
I've seen it all a million times

Take me down to the paradise city
Where the grass is green
And the girls are pretty
Take me home (Oh, won't you please take me home)

I want to go
I want to know
Oh, won't you please take me hooooooome
Baby






The Anachronism Hour with Saucy Slice



"Welcome back to the show, this is DJ Saucy Slice broadcasting from the very top of Radio City, at the Plaza del Universo in the heart of Fatlington, New Jersey. We are gonna start the show a little differently today, beginning with the legendary The Anachronism Hour, which is the part of the show where I play music you've never heard before, not of this era, from records I pulled out of their dusty sleeves that have been sitting in my basement since the before the war. Or maybe this is new music from artists never before seen. But whatever the case, it is not your standard fare, and we will bring you back to your regularly scheduled contemporary music later.

That was..... "Guns N' Roses". Who are they? Bright up and comers, those. Now it's time for the News Cruise! with Askthepizzaguy."


*VROOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM*


"So, Ask, tell us what's in the news on this fine, fine morning?"







Askthepizzaguy: "Well Saucy, it seems you are! Yes indeed, I understand you were the victim of a savage attack last night, what happened to you?"



"Actually, I'm fine. Though I'm in a lot of pain, there was no permanent damage. And nothing is going to stop me from hosting this radio show!"




Askthepizzaguy: "That's good to hear. Apparently there was a spree of violent attempted killings last night, but thankfully, only one Fatling paid for it with their life."





"Sounds to me like the vigilant citizens of Fatlington are doing an excellent job protecting folks from violent crime. Who needs the police when we have the neighborhood watch? Thanks for your report, Ask, stay safe out there. Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, after surviving a brush with death I feel fan-freaking-tastic.

Though I must say, I lost my temper last night when delivering a bunch of pizzas. This jerkbag gave me and my partner a nickel for a tip to split between us. I just blacked out, and when I came to, I was driving away with a pile of clothes in the back seat. No idea what happened there.

But I assure you, I won't lose my cool again. I'm a mild-mannered pizzaguy at night, and the bestest DJ in town by day. I still have requests for songs from yesterday and we will get to some of those, but impress me with your music selection and maybe I'll squeeze you in for today.

Stay classy, Fatlington!"




If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=23872). He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.

[Earthling]

You couldn't post to maybe, make a better vote later? Have to make this a false dichotomy no matter what you are right? Someone is going to have an obviously better lead on a real lynch eventually and that would be fine, works for me too, and you could earn yourself some investigations but really it's on you what you do for the town.

I can't really hold it against you for not thinking like a helpful townie but on your supposed mafia, sounds like something for someone to be really easily taken in. Could even be some communist/third party guy who pretended to "reveal" as mafia and go about doing other weird stuff unobstructed or just wanted contacts from the various other mafia familes.

[Earthling]

Oh yeah, of course that makes sense and pizza did write all that. He and someone he somehow got in with him attempted an attack on Ras with only two, that they knew would fail from the start, for pizza's whole "show I'm neutral and not doing anything at night thing"

[Major Robert Dump]

THERE R COMMUNIST IN THIS GAME??????????????????

[Visor]

Sigurd.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh yeah, of course that makes sense and pizza did write all that. He and someone he somehow got in with him attempted an attack on Ras with only two, that they knew would fail from the start, for pizza's whole "show I'm neutral and not doing anything at night thing"

OOC: Correct. I have proven I'm not earning kills to become mafia.

And I will continue to do so. Now, a deep scan by the FBI should cover the rest, because I'm also not a mafia Don.

Not a don, not scanned as guilty, no kills to my name, means I can't be mafia and I am prevented from going mafia. Just like TB.

As such, the paranoia can cease.

[Erebus]

The interesting thing about Sly being wounded is the fact that it said he "won’t be attending today’s meeting." This sounds like a role I've seen in other mafia games called a blackmailer.

Basically make it so someone can't talk for a day. (the version I played allowed them to still vote).

[a completely inoffensive name]

You couldn't post to maybe, make a better vote later? Have to make this a false dichotomy no matter what you are right? Someone is going to have an obviously better lead on a real lynch eventually and that would be fine, works for me too, and you could earn yourself some investigations but really it's on you what you do for the town.

I can't really hold it against you for not thinking like a helpful townie but on your supposed mafia, sounds like something for someone to be really easily taken in. Could even be some communist/third party guy who pretended to "reveal" as mafia and go about doing other weird stuff unobstructed or just wanted contacts from the various other mafia familes.

There is a whole day to change my vote. Sasaki voted for you and he is a pretty smart guy. Best lead I can see right now is you.

As for the whether or not I am being taken for a sap? Hmmm, lets just say I got...other evidences...that pretty much lock it down. At the risk of having the rulebook thrown at me, I will keep my mouth shut until I feel I have given him/her enough time to play the game fairly.

[Earthling]

Yeah but even though you took a beating 'round the knees last night you're not looking near wobbly enough.

[Diamondeye]

Vote: Visorslash although I wouldn't mind if this guy who keeps posting eyeblights died too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah but even though you took a beating 'round the knees last night you're not looking near wobbly enough.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World


Earthling is a communist.

Vote: Earthling

[Askthepizzaguy]

To new players of the game, that wasn't a joke.


Earthling is using the code word "Wobbly" to meet his communist buddies. They're an anti-town cult bent on third party victory.

I might be neutral but I ain't no bloody commie.

[Earthling]

I'm definitely not a communist. A crazy German-serial killer who is rabidly anti-communist and kills people with pogo-sticks which haven't really been introduced to America yet, I wish, not a communist.

Suppose rather than the chance of them accidently contacting me this'll just encourage them to never recruit me, but oh well, thanks for that.

[a completely inoffensive name]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World


Earthling is a communist.

Vote: Earthling

God ****, I got too little attention span to pick up these kinds of things. 2nd rate mafia player looks to be my fate.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm definitely not a communist. A crazy German-serial killer who is rabidly anti-communist and kills people with pogo-sticks which haven't really been introduced to America yet, I wish, not a communist.

Suppose rather than the chance of them accidently contacting me this'll just encourage them to never recruit me, but oh well, thanks for that.

So you admit you were looking to be recruited by the anti-town cult? Thank you.


I freaking RULE this game.

[Earthling]

pizza only went after that as he has been trying to get townies dead for fun anyway, and clearly missed the subtlety. I know I was hoping the communists might pick up on that and contact me, sure, at which point I'd really only be interested in infiltration, so he just ruined that possibility, but it's obvious I'm not a communist.

That said it would be funny if all the pretend/wannabe communists rally around today anyway. I remain town, but the neutrals have been detrimental enough to the town already, for helping the mafia anonymously communicate alone.

[Earthling]

No, I wasn't looking to be recruited. The ones who are might be angry at your slights against the communists though. Let's feel free to cut down on the losing battles and wastes of time though.

[Beskar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World


Earthling is a communist.

Vote: Earthling

Vote: Earthling

[Earthling]

You guys are seriously not that good at this and lack any attention to detail. If you thought for a moment, you'd know that if there even are communists and they had such a code word, the smart thing to do is post the word "wobble" which clearly does not come up on the first Google result linking to communism and is much more likely be only noticed by fellow communists, except I knew someone would pick up on wobbly eventually and chose it completely independently cause I could.

But I don't expect anything to come of this though other than the typical, real battle against the mafia at night. I'll of course evaluate the real lynch candidates later in the day as appropriate for my own vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

pizza only went after that as he has been trying to get townies dead for fun anyway, and clearly missed the subtlety. I know I was hoping the communists might pick up on that and contact me, sure, at which point I'd really only be interested in infiltration, so he just ruined that possibility, but it's obvious I'm not a communist.

That said it would be funny if all the pretend/wannabe communists rally around today anyway. I remain town, but the neutrals have been detrimental enough to the town already, for helping the mafia anonymously communicate alone.


No, I wasn't looking to be recruited. The ones who are might be angry at your slights against the communists though. Let's feel free to cut down on the losing battles and wastes of time though.


Okay, so now we're explicitly stating that you're a government (or private, I suppose) anticommunist agent who is dedicated to the downfall of the communist scum.

Now, you're also claiming that you've used a codeword to contact them. But they won't attempt to recruit you, because you weren't attempting to be recruited.

Well that stretches the imagination a bit. They're to contact you and NOT try to recruit you after you utter a code word? Or how was this infiltration supposed to work?

Are you recruitable or not? If you are, then you were trying to be recruited thus, you're lying. If you're not recruitable, then you could never have infiltrated them anyway, and thus, you're lying.

Which lie am I supposed to believe? The absurd one or the really absurd one?

In any case, it seems clear you're not a basic townie or wiseguy role. You're involved with the commies either for or against anyway. I remember last game, I was against, and my win condition had nothing to do with eradicating mafia, so drop the pretense.

[Major Robert Dump]

Weebles Wobble but they don't fall down

[Askthepizzaguy]

Weebles Wobble but they don't fall down

I red in the daily worker that General Hanky is going to bring down the hammer on one of our comrades and toss him in the gulag where Earthling will succumb to sickle-cell while in his cell and then get eaten by a Russian bear. He will be clad in the finest Lenin and soon be covered with bite Marx.

[Cahoma]

Vote: Earthling then. It doesn't sound as if he's a goodnatured townie.

[Erebus]

FoS: MRD

[Major Robert Dump]

I red in the daily worker that General Hanky is going to bring down the hammer on one of our comrades and toss him in the gulag where Earthling will succumb to sickle-cell while in his cell and then get eaten by a Russian bear. He will be clad in the finest Lenin and soon be covered with bite Marx.

Someone post the "communist party" picture, pls, ya know, the one with Lenin and Marx with party hats and cocktail glasses

[Major Robert Dump]

FoS: MRD

Why, because I post, or because I post?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Someone post the "communist party" picture, pls, ya know, the one with Lenin and Marx with party hats and cocktail glasses


https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/thepartypn0.png

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know what's really sad?

I got the basic townie or wiseguy role this time. This is just reflex from Capo III still ingrained into my brain.

So before you FBI and CIA people start crawling around my inbox, lemme alone: I am not one of you or them. Just a concerned citizen.

[Death is yonder]

You guys are seriously not that good at this and lack any attention to detail. If you thought for a moment, you'd know that if there even are communists and they had such a code word, the smart thing to do is post the word "wobble" which clearly does not come up on the first Google result linking to communism and is much more likely be only noticed by fellow communists, except I knew someone would pick up on wobbly eventually and chose it completely independently cause I could.

But I don't expect anything to come of this though other than the typical, real battle against the mafia at night. I'll of course evaluate the real lynch candidates later in the day as appropriate for my own vote.

Vote: Earthling :beam:

[The Stranger]

vote atpg

his attack seems weird. hes attacked by multiple units but protected by one who immediatly uses his gun. somehow it also seems like some trait like luck kicked in.

[The Stranger]

unvote: vote: atpg

[The Stranger]

You know what's really sad?

I got the basic townie or wiseguy role this time. This is just reflex from Capo III still ingrained into my brain.

So before you FBI and CIA people start crawling around my inbox, lemme alone: I am not one of you or them. Just a concerned citizen.

you dont know your own role? fishy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

you dont know your own role? fishy.

:wall:

No, I know my role, I'm just not specifying.

I am sure you put a lot of thought into your vote, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but Earthling is the greatest caught scumbag on round one of all time. OF ALL TIME.

Technically it is round two, but bah and humbug. I couldn't lynch anyone day one.

[Visor]

Unvote;

[Diamondeye]

You know what's really sad?

The amount of Lady GaGa your radio is not playing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The amount of Lady GaGa your radio is not playing.

I'm doing my Pizzaguy thing at the moment. DJ Slice will return momentarily with GH's requested song, then you're next.

I leave it ambiguous as to whether or not your song is next or if I'll be pie-ing you in the face tonight.

[Ishmael]

The amount of Lady GaGa your radio is not playing.

Is this another method of execution, or are you being serious? :inquisitive:

[Visor]

Is this another method of execution, or are you being serious? :inquisitive:

+1.

I'm glad you have taste Ishmael. All hope is not lost in Australia.

[Xehh II]

Vote: Diamond Eye Because he appears to like lady gaga and that is just not on

[Visor]

Vote: Diamond Eye Because he appears to like lady gaga and that is just not on

:yes: More people with taste.

[TheLastDays]

vote: Earthling

You guys know how much I like bandwagons.

Also not as many kills as I thought there would be, I'm sure that's a good sign :2thumbsup: or, as we Austrians would say: "Keine Sorge, wir schaffen das!"

[LazyMcCrow]

vote: Earthling - dude, it looks like you're just squirming at the bottom of a ridiculous hole you just dug yourself - I'd feel smarter about this if it hadn't already been pointed out how scummy you sound by multiple people.
The only other stand-out item for me so far is Mr. Cal King's public declaration about accidently discovering a mafia via PM.


I, Mr. Cal King have unfairly had a mafia member reveal himself to me. I was PMing him in a back and forth thing while he was sending a PM to Seamus about his role and he accidentally switched them up. I have messaged him (or her, won't reveal) and we agreed for the sake of the game to keep it under wraps and not tell anyone of the mistake.

I want the mafia to have a fair go at it and so I will give them a month or two before I give away his name.

Why bother mentioning any of this? Well, I like saying my new name, Mr. Cal King and also it puts me in a position of power down the line if the town happens to be a bunch of screw ups.

I don't like the jokey reasoning for the (unnecessary?) public declaration. The most obvious reasons for such a declaration is a ballsy attempt to buy an indeterminate, but massive, amount of time for himself when he talks about giving up the mafia in a month or something - (unless he still reveal the mafia if dead?) the (feigned) indifference about being lynched himself could be Mr Kings own special brand of double bluff - a relatively safe one for today given how dodgy Earthling already looks. But yeah - he's painted by his own admission, a huge target on himself, so kudos for the huge cojones if thats what it turns out to be :D

Nothing else really stuck out, but 'Paradise City' certainly made the thread an easier read :) keep the tunes coming DJ Saucy :thumbsup:

[Arjos]

Vote: Earthling

For being/wanting/liking commies!

[Major Robert Dump]

I wish you guys would not lynch Earthlink yet because he is actually pretty good at analysis and he thinks everyone is guilty, and starting a case on him with the current evidence is a stretch and very much an Earthlink thing to do which actually stinks of irony but that is not the point.

ACINs scenario could possibly be completely fabricated, he has shown some pretty ingenius complex lies before, and he has also used the "I don't care lynch me I am busy IRL" argument before as well. His scenario almost certainly garnished him some bodyguards last night, which is probably why no one tried to kill him because it was obvious he would have protection. Mind you none of this being the case necessarily means he is scum, I am just letting you know that the "I'm running a contest" argument he is posing is an awful lot like the "I'm having finals" argument from The Revenging when he had his "break down"

I have no suspects and would prefer to see no one lynched this round so the investigators can do their jobs

[Seon]

vote: Earthling.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Vote: Earthling

[Renata]

Earthling, Comrade! Come and have a vodka and some borsht with me. Out of respect for Comrade Sigurd I will refrain from voting you to your death, but if you don't mind a little advice from a fellow traveler you might just want to talk a little faster if you want to get out of this. Like, justifying the wobbly comment in a coherent way, claiming a town role convincingly, sort of thing. Because comments about "real lynch candidates" and such ain't gonna cut it, they only make you look scummier.

vote: ACIN because even if the basic story is correct there's still bull poopy in there somewhere, I can smell it. (MRD gets at the gist.) Unless that's just the borsht.

[Askthepizzaguy]

2400 Plaza del Universo
Radio City building, Suite 501
Fatlington, New Jersey







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The All-Request Hour with Saucy Slice



"Okay, Director General Chief Hanky wants me to play a song..... but I listened to it, and it was simply a song from a Disney movie in another language. I have made a command decision not to play any non-English songs on the radio, because America is under siege. I do not want coded messages from subversives to play their treasonous music on my airwaves. Sorry, General, I decline to play it. You may do so on your own, but not here.

As such, Diamond Guy's request from yesterday is now playing. This was Lady Gaga with Paparazzi.

This song has special meaning for me right now, because I have a strong feeling that they're being watched.... followed.... secrets being revealed. Just sayin."




If you want to request a song, dial 1-855-DJ-SLICE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=23872). He'll serve your ears something hot and fresh in thirty minutes or less.

Please note, DJ Slice will be off the air momentarily for an extended lunch break.

[edse]

At least get the video right if you're going to post Lady Gaga

Save Earth and vote for Silver Jan

Vote: Silver Jan

[TinCow]

My interpretation of the write-up:

Captain Blackadder - 5 attackers, townie vig hit.

Bit between Blackadder and Raskolnikov - Recruitment attempt of some kind or mafia recruitment investigation, though not sure why the latter would appear in write-ups at all. I don't recall that happening in previous Capos. Possibly something related to whatever special roles Seamus added this time.

Raskolnikov - Failed hit by two townies. Sheer length of the write-up, and the blatant ATPG references, combined with ATPG's statements during the night phase make me think this was ATPG's work.

Earthling - Four attacks and two defenders. Failed vig attack due to insufficient numbers, as well as failed defense due to insufficient numbers.

Slash and earn - Two attackers and three defenders. Successful protection. Unclear if the attackers were vig or mafia.

ATPG - Five attackers and three defenders. Successful vig attack and successful protection. Obviously ATPG's work.

Slysnake - Non-lethal night attack. Clearly something to do with special roles.

[gibsonsg91921]

"My son Homer is not a communist. He may be fat, stupid, and a communist, but he is not a pornstar." - Grampa Simpson.

That being said, I am going to have to read more after class :(

[TinCow]

Ok, having now read the day phase it seems I was right about the Raskolnikov and Earthling hits. I think the case on Earthling is a distraction at this point. We don't even know what the special roles are, so until we do I'm happy to focus on finding real mafia. If there is a group of communists in this game like in Capo 3, then there are also anti-communist roles that will deal with Earthling. Better to leave him to them and try and lynch a mafioso.

Vote: Camikaze

Hi, I don't believe we've met. Welcome to mafia on the Org.

[ULC]

Ok, having now read the day phase it seems I was right about the Raskolnikov and Earthling hits. I think the case on Earthling is a distraction at this point. We don't even know what the special roles are, so until we do I'm happy to focus on finding real mafia. If there is a group of communists in this game like in Capo 3, then there are also anti-communist roles that will deal with Earthling. Better to leave him to them and try and lynch a mafioso.

Vote: Camikaze

Hi, I don't believe we've met. Welcome to mafia on the Org.

I suggest less scummy posts TC. If a potential scum presents themselves we should follow up on it and not depend on power roles.

Vote:Earthling

[johnhughthom]

Tally

Montmorency: 1 (Tratorix)
Earthling: 12 (Sasaki, ACIN, Pizza, Beskar, Cahoma, Diy, TLD, McCrow, Arjos, Seon, Warman, ULC)
ACIN: 3 (Earthling, Jarema, Renata)
Visorslash: 1 (Diamondeye)
Pizza: 1 (Stranger)
Diamondeye: 1 (Xehh II)
Silver Jan: 1 (edse)
Camikaze: 1 (TinCow)

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Earthling

Sure, why not. I was trying to kill you last night anywhos.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

This game is massivly huge, even harder for me to follow :laugh:.

[thefluffyone93]

This game is massivly huge, even harder for me to follow :laugh:.

I just read 5 pages containing, well, stuff.
Was I supposed to understand all of these arguments?

I'm better off Lolly-Gagging and dilly-dallying and such.....

Vote: Chaotix

If you don't know why, good, cuz' neither do I.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I just read 5 pages containing, well, stuff.
Was I supposed to understand all of these arguments?

I'm better off Lolly-Gagging and dilly-dallying and such.....

Vote: Chaotix

If you don't know why, good, cuz' neither do I.

Which is why if I am in a bad mood like now I just bandwagon :laugh:.

[classical_hero]

Why were you trying to kill him last night?

Also what is wrong with Lady Gaga's music? Nothing. Her style might be freaky, and tht is something I don't like, but otherwise judging her music, she is by far one of the better songwriters out there right now.

[TinCow]

I suggest less scummy posts TC. If a potential scum presents themselves we should follow up on it and not depend on power roles.

Vote:Earthling

Of course, because runaway bandwagons in a game this size are so very useful. :rolleyes:

[Lewwyn]

I just read 5 pages containing, well, stuff.
Was I supposed to understand all of these arguments?

I'm better off Lolly-Gagging and dilly-dallying and such.....

Vote: Chaotix

If you don't know why, good, cuz' neither do I.

Sums up about what I think.
I don't know either, but sounds good enough for me! Vote: Chaotix
I don't see a legitimate argument for anyone anyway.

[The Stranger]

Tally

Montmorency: 1 (Tratorix)
Earthling: 12 (Sasaki, ACIN, Pizza, Beskar, Cahoma, Diy, TLD, McCrow, Arjos, Seon, Warman, ULC)
ACIN: 3 (Earthling, Jarema, Renata)
Visorslash: 1 (Diamondeye)
Pizza: 1 (Stranger)
Diamondeye: 1 (Xehh II)
Silver Jan: 1 (edse)
Camikaze: 1 (TinCow)

so now we know who got an extra trait... keep an eye on this guy!

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Why were you trying to kill him last night?

Also what is wrong with Lady Gaga's music? Nothing. Her style might be freaky, and tht is something I don't like, but otherwise judging her music, she is by far one of the better songwriters out there right now.


I like Katy Perry more.

[Renata]

Of course, because runaway bandwagons in a game this size are so very useful. :rolleyes:

Roll-eyes smilie, TC? *raised eyebrows* And what were you up to last night? *whips out notebook, pushes glasses up nose*

[johnhughthom]

so now we know who got an extra trait... keep an eye on this guy!

"You now have the ability to solo vig anyone guilty of excessive unvoting, what constitutes excessive is for you to decide. This kill breaks through any protections and ignores any traits."

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Of course, because runaway bandwagons in a game this size are so very useful. :rolleyes:

Hey, game is way to big anyhow, so got to kill people off somehow :yes:.

[The Stranger]

"You now have the ability to solo vig anyone guilty of excessive unvoting, what constitutes excessive is for you to decide. This kill breaks through any protections and ignores any traits."
im dissapointed i expected some more creativity from you when making up traits.

[johnhughthom]

im dissapointed i expected some more creativity from you when making up traits.

:shrug:

I seem to be disappointing everyone lately.

[TinCow]

Roll-eyes smilie, TC? *raised eyebrows* And what were you up to last night? *whips out notebook, pushes glasses up nose*

Playing Minecraft 1.8 and drinking a bottle of Blaufränkisch. Also, picking up dog poop.

[Subotan]

I want Earthling lynched. Unsure about the "Wobbly" connection, as the IWW was in sharp decline by this point IRL; however, he's overreacting to accusations against him, and I don't want a repeat of the dramaaaaa that captivated the first half ATPG's Mafia II.

That said, he seems doomed now, so I'll use this opportunity to start badgering people in my charming yet effective manner:

Vote: a completely inoffensive name (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?30208-a-completely-inoffensive-name)

Who organised the vig group you partook in?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

:shrug:

I seem to be disappointing everyone lately.

Where is my tribute?

[ULC]

Of course, because runaway bandwagons in a game this size are so very useful. :rolleyes:

You didn't decry the bandwagon, you decried that anyone was voting for him in the first place. It was a deflection, not a call to common sense.

[Subotan]

A. Killing townies for fun is what I do when no one gives me orders.

Just as an aside for new players' benefit, I can confirm this.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

All investigation and night action results have been pm'd.

If you believe I missed yours, please re-PM me the orders and I will double check.

[SisterCoyote]

The interesting thing about Sly being wounded is the fact that it said he "won’t be attending today’s meeting." This sounds like a role I've seen in other mafia games called a blackmailer.

Basically make it so someone can't talk for a day. (the version I played allowed them to still vote).

I've seen this kind of role in other games, too, and it sucks for the person playing them. But, yes, I suppose this is one possibility.


To new players of the game, that wasn't a joke.

Earthling is using the code word "Wobbly" to meet his communist buddies. They're an anti-town cult bent on third party victory.

I might be neutral but I ain't no bloody commie.

I was planning on getting behind this, but...


At least get the video right if you're going to post Lady Gaga

Save Earth and vote for Silver Jan

Vote: Silver Jan

May I ask you to be more specific in your reasoning, edse?

[TinCow]

You didn't decry the bandwagon, you decried that anyone was voting for him in the first place. It was a deflection, not a call to common sense.

Oh, please. I stand by my statement. The Earthling case is a distraction. Early on in a game like this it is best to get as much information about what we're dealing with as possible. It's pointless to even expect good lynches at this point. The goals should be to get more information about the game set up and to get people talking so that their posts can be referenced again later. A bandwagon on someone who isn't even accused of being a mafioso is a waste of time. Lynch him by all means, there is no better candidate that I see, but spread the votes out and pressure multiple people. The Earthling wagon means you're letting 115 people walk through this day without any concerns at all. This is pretty basic mafia-wagon stuff.

[Kennigit]

vote: ACIN

um, if the acin statement is true, is there any particular reason why in a game with 118 or whatever people a person with critically game-breaking information should be left alive? If he was townie he could just be axed/wog'd, no difference balance wise if a game had 117 or 118. If he was a different mafia group/important role, like another Don, obviously there are some balance issues with that which makes it difficult to just wog the role. I'm not from the org, but I know the ATPG (II?) used some dead players to replace other players right? ACIN could easily be replaced by a generic townie who dies early on. Even wiseguy/commie/anti-commie could probably be wogged or easily replaced by any generic townie early on death.

so his statement is either a really stupid lie imo (just as a way to try to extend his life, be it townie or mafia or whatever), or his involvement of the game with such information is just fundamentally broken and completely breaks everything I know about mafia and balance.

it is extremely disturbing to me.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Oh, please. I stand by my statement. The Earthling case is a distraction. Early on in a game like this it is best to get as much information about what we're dealing with as possible. It's pointless to even expect good lynches at this point. The goals should be to get more information about the game set up and to get people talking so that their posts can be referenced again later. A bandwagon on someone who isn't even accused of being a mafioso is a waste of time. Lynch him by all means, there is no better candidate that I see, but spread the votes out and pressure multiple people. The Earthling wagon means you're letting 115 people walk through this day without any concerns at all. This is pretty basic mafia-wagon stuff.



So you want us to look at ALL 115 people in one sitting :laugh:?