13er summer game thread

[Winston Hughes]

insomnia is very obviously town

this, most of all, tells me cape is town

because wtf else is going on there?!

[katze]

i will let you cook achro, chaos is fine, but i expect to yell at you in 45 minutes

glgl

[Achro]

I have killed a thousand towns and a thousand wolves. I fear no cringe. I am the embodiment of mafia justice itself.

[Cape90]

now for EnderWiggin, I actually just dont think he's posting like his wolf self, but he is posting wolfier, but I think that means he's town

hmmyes

[Winston Hughes]

how long should i risk leaving it before switching back to katze?

[Cape90]

I want to keep Taffy alive tbh. She dies a lot as town. Tbh normally I attribute wolfreading her to when I don't have a random urge to wagon her.

SK's post is kinda towny imo. Even though I disagree with a bunch of it.


i'll bite

what about it is towny

i wanna keep this interaction in mind with the whole SK push from achro

[nebjiamn]

how long should i risk leaving it before switching back to katze?
at least 48 minutes

[katze]

how long should i risk leaving it before switching back to katze?

id give it until :01

[Achro]

But sincerely it feels like ladd is sipping drinking coffee and his observations feel okay but also his logic that one of me/katze must be a wolf because we wolf read each other is very predatory if katze is town. Like, 'ah I think they both look good, but idk...'

Also I feel like ladd's posting has kind of encouraged a lethargic feel to the thread. Like it's just easing the momentum towards 'yah bye cape' which we can flip today and if it is town makes ladd's efforts today look shady, chill game or no

also ladd what posts of mine are obvious villager posts. I will know if you are lying.

[nebjiamn]

id give it until :01
beat you to it, nerd

[Visor]

I have killed a thousand towns and a thousand wolves. I fear no cringe. I am the embodiment of mafia justice itself.

This is a g rated thread, keep it in your pants

[SilverKeith]

Have skimmed some of the last pages.

I like cape doing their own thing. Feels ok.

I think dya is ok. I feel like town dya would default to voting me often in this playerlist and in a game where I'm not really posting a lot, because they are really unfamiliar with me and thus I don't see them condifently putting me outside a POE ever. I'm not sure wolf dya takes this exit. Not related but Dya is prolly the player in this game I feel the most confident in reading correctly but that's a really low level of confidence which is fun and exciting.

[Achro]

This is a g rated thread, keep it in your pants

MY SHINING SWORD BURNS BRIGHT, ITS HOT STEEL READY TO CUT INTO TENDER FLESH.

[Cape90]

remember town: this is the same town that finds Winston is LHF and wolfy :bow:

therefore all sus on me is cringe hmmyes

[Cape90]

but yeah i dont think its winston

i mean they ain't the towniest player in thread but still

[ladd]

But sincerely it feels like ladd is sipping drinking coffee and his observations feel okay but also his logic that one of me/katze must be a wolf because we wolf read each other is very predatory if katze is town. Like, 'ah I think they both look good, but idk...'

Also I feel like ladd's posting has kind of encouraged a lethargic feel to the thread. Like it's just easing the momentum towards 'yah bye cape' which we can flip today and if it is town makes ladd's efforts today look shady, chill game or no

also ladd what posts of mine are obvious villager posts. I will know if you are lying.

Its 11.15 pm and i am in bed

I am def not getting out of it for this

[Cuthillius]

fair enuff as they say

based off current events i think there's an evolvingly better chance cape is a wolf here. does that change your perspective or do you think he could be bussing (i don't remember his progression so i might go reread it after i ask you this) or would he be looking better here. i vaguely recall someone saying if cape is a wolf he's been bussed already, maybe that was achro

i think cape is a decent probability wolf and my thoughts there exist kinda in parallel to my considerations towards winston

surface level i think the default reaction would be that it looks better for winston if cape was w since this comes across as strong redirection/change of focus, but i also think the people he chose to push are people where he wouldn't really expect to get significant traction, so it's kinda moot and flips back to being eh (the third and in-between option for w!winston would be pushing people who might actually die but are villagers rather than cape, but that doesn't seem like it would be a good option here given the thread's inertia on cape and that that's a bad look if cape does end up flipping)

i agree that if cape's w he's been bussed already, but that's pretty meaningless atp imo

[Achro]

26580

No one is ready for peak magikarp.

[Winston Hughes]

remember town: this is the same town that finds Winston is LHF and wolfy :bow:

therefore all sus on me is cringe hmmyes

:angel:

[nebjiamn]

remember town: this is the same town that finds Winston is LHF and wolfy :bow:

therefore all sus on me is cringe hmmyes
i legitimately have no idea what you're saying

even if its purpose is to lolcat this post has not met the minimum requirements cape

[Achro]

Its 11.15 pm and i am in bed

I am def not getting out of it for this

Well that's totally fair, and I understand.

I am sorry if I am wrong but I have learned my intuition is good, and if I am wrong I will apologize after for being skill issue'd on you since I don't know you very well.

[Cuthillius]

insomnia is very obviously town but I stg if they get away with lunching katze this game town deserve to lose

But their whole post about katze not having a real reason to sus Achro was really towny (i lost the link though cuz i accidentally closed tab)

could you say more about this please?

[Winston Hughes]

i legitimately have no idea what you're saying

even if its purpose is to lolcat this post has not met the minimum requirements cape

it;s the towniest thing i've ever seen

:barrel:

[Cape90]

I have a feeling Taffy is town

I will note ppl not bringing up the fact that Taffy has vocally lightly townread me

[SilverKeith]

I think winston is funny and have liked their style so my current poe is made of all the ppl I've had nothing to say about (Visor/Benneh/Ender/Insom) + Taffy who has apparently posted and I should prolly read.

[Raskolnikov]

Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Sk(2): Dya, katze
Katze (2): ender, SK
ladd(2): Cape, achro
Achro(1): Taffy
Winston(1): cuth
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Winston

Not voting (0):

[Cape90]

got that taffy feeling off of 310 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847421&viewfull=1#post2053847421) so ig it was a later post

still

[nebjiamn]

am i the only one that keeps confusing visor and cuth's posts?

yall should change avatars

[Winston Hughes]

I think winston is funny and have liked their style so my current poe is made of all the ppl I've had nothing to say about (Visor/Benneh/Ender/Insom) + Taffy who has apparently posted and I should prolly read.

let's do visor

[Achro]

these wagons always cause chaos EOD.
katze let's kill ladd together. He tried to set us against each other, my rival.

[katze]

yo achro why is SK town

this isnt a loaded q just not sure what u saw

[ladd]

I have a feeling Taffy is town

I will note ppl not bringing up the fact that Taffy has vocally lightly townread me

Could you explain why you have insomnia as villa and me as a wolf?

[Winston Hughes]

i mean, zack's not here...

[katze]

am i the only one that keeps confusing visor and cuth's posts?

yall should change avatars

cuth is the one who says funny words, visor is the one who says words funny

[nebjiamn]

I think winston is funny and have liked their style so my current poe is made of all the ppl I've had nothing to say about (Visor/Benneh/Ender/Insom) + Taffy who has apparently posted and I should prolly read.
hmmmmm

[Achro]

yo achro why is SK town

this isnt a loaded q just not sure what u saw

because I get when he was explaining why he suspected me he drew a very specific read to a very specific game and I immediately can understand how v!SK could take that to be wolf achro posturing.

[Winston Hughes]

these wagons always cause chaos EOD.
katze let's kill ladd together. He tried to set us against each other, my rival.

no, i'm standing tall for ladd

[SilverKeith]

Achro did you really wanted to tdome Katze at one point?

I mentally checked out by there I think but that's the last thing I member which didn't really made sense.

[ladd]

am i the only one that keeps confusing visor and cuth's posts?

yall should change avatars

I confuse taffy s and katze s lmao

Even tho they write nothing alike

[Cuthillius]

I kinda actually think cuth is a wolf, reading over the posts in the back half of the day is a stark contrast to how I felt earlier (where I thought his posts were fine)

Just a lot of posts in a string that seem to be tripping off my alarms

Like a wolf working the elbow grease

diamine

[Winston Hughes]

although...

[Cape90]

town will see they have to kill Visor tomorrow :argue:

[Achro]

no, i'm standing tall for ladd

I thought it was only SK you didn't want to touch. Now ladd? Why is that?

[katze]

these wagons always cause chaos EOD.
katze let's kill ladd together. He tried to set us against each other, my rival.

i am not comfortable voting ladd lol

sry if wrong, maybe ill change my mind in the next 40 min, but i feel like hes a villager fairly strongly as of now

yes i saw ur concerns, im thinking about it, i think the good outweighs the bad

[ladd]

diamine

Perfetto

[Winston Hughes]

vote: katze

cards on the table time

[SilverKeith]

let's do visor

I don't remember any visor I unironically think this is a wolftell for lack of spice

[Achro]

Achro did you really wanted to tdome Katze at one point?

I mentally checked out by there I think but that's the last thing I member which didn't really made sense.

Nah not really I wouldn't have minded some votes there to see what she did but I was just seeing how it panned out.

Reading katze off day 1 is hard so I like to prod people of her skill level to see what happens. Often can be telling in future days.

[nebjiamn]

you know you could all hop on this ender wagon

there's a seat up front next to yr boi

[Cuthillius]

i wouldn't say cuth has super towntold besides their worldview which is very clearly anti-consensus and therefore I think it's villagery

But they are reminding me of how they usually play as town

we have played one (1) game together that i can remember?

[ladd]

you know you could all hop on this ender wagon

there's a seat up front next to yr boi

I was thinking about it

[SilverKeith]

you know you could all hop on this ender wagon

there's a seat up front next to yr boi

why is ender a wolf?

[Achro]

No interest in Ender who is a capable mid to late game solver whose world view mostly lines up with mine, at least for day 1.
Pass.

[Raskolnikov]

Katze (3): ender, SK, Winston
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Sk(2): Dya, katze
ladd(2): Cape, achro
Achro(1): Taffy
Winston(1): cuth
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor

Not voting (0):

[katze]

you know you could all hop on this ender wagon

there's a seat up front next to yr boi

considering it

i feel like the TRs are him are TWTBAW reads which are kinda baffling to me but i deep down think it's barely >rand to flip wolf

would prefer it over ladd tho

[Cape90]

- I like Achro's approach from a "try new things" perspective tho I think it's kind of un-achro-ey. Ftr I'd have taken off the list somene who I didn't want dead just bc I wanted to play more with em.

- I didn't like Taffy's vote towards Achro. It's the kind of explanation for a vote I give when I'm wolfing. Neither them asking for opinions on Visor/Achro so early into the game.

- I decided I wasn't going to really try to read katze today at post #60.

- I don't like Insom's read on ender (#62). I think there's some dissonance between what's he's stating and the importance it should have. Idk how to explaining.


why?

- katze is a wolf per post 70. Only partially joking. Also driving woat.

- I think ladd is kinda ok just based on him reaching some v reads which I don't follow but I feel like I should follow.

- Achro explanation towards the taffy thing is illegitimate and apocryphal which is town-indicative of him yesyesyes i do believe this mmhmm.

- I've changed my mind on Achro and I think he's a wolf based on 102. I feel like if Ladd is town, and ladd's buttons clicked when Achro went like "oh I have this idea but it's ok I wasn't really attached to it" and then Ladd townread him for it, this repeat of him explicitly not being attached to ladd's wolfread feels like an appeal to those same buttons.

Also I do not like that half the procesing I've done this game is Achro-centric, tho it makes sense since he's the person who has posted more.


I read this post before my mind made the connection that it was a post made by Achro which was mildly amusing

I now regret that katze and Achro are the two players I wrote the most about because I saw the thunderdome post so I've decided to go to sleep. I'm also sorry for the catch up formatting for this post.

i feel like this post is trying to paint in broad strokes when it comes to suspecting people

and i find that kind of towny, though I can see the opposite argument

thats my take on this controversial post

[Achro]

My kill order from that list is ladd > cape > katze fyi

[Cape90]

Katze (3): ender, SK, Winston
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Sk(2): Dya, katze
ladd(2): Cape, achro
Achro(1): Taffy
Winston(1): cuth
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor

Not voting (0):

just vote me, we doomed if this many ppl think its katze

[katze]

Katze (3): ender, SK, Winston
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Sk(2): Dya, katze
ladd(2): Cape, achro
Achro(1): Taffy
Winston(1): cuth
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor

Not voting (0):

this would be a really funny game to get d1ed in given i feel like i have more TRs this game than 95% of my games and i havent been mislunched in years

bring it suckers tbh

[katze]

My kill order from that list is ladd > cape > katze fyi
i thought cape was town?

[ladd]

Yea we prolly shouldnt be lunching katze friendos

[Achro]

ladd: I am not getting up out of bed for this

cape and katze: bring it on

difference check choo choo

[Cuthillius]

vote: silverkeith

[Achro]

i thought cape was town?

do you even read my posts.

[katze]

ladd: I am not getting up out of bed for this

cape and katze: bring it on

difference check choo choo

confused noises

[nebjiamn]

why is ender a wolf?
threads villagery
ender's not
refusal to explain reads
he's in lots of poes but no one wants to dsicuss or vote him

vibes idk

even now theres so much hesitance to spark something up and see what happens

[SilverKeith]

Yea we prolly shouldnt be lunching katze friendos

Hmm yeah prolly not.

[insomnia]

am i the only one that keeps confusing visor and cuth's posts?

yall should change avatars

nope

[Cape90]

this, most of all, tells me cape is town

because wtf else is going on there?!

whaddaya mean?

[katze]

do you even read my posts.

im getting the feeling i accidentally skipped one or did not fully digest your wallpost.

[ladd]

nope

What do you think about cape posts rn?

[Cape90]

vote: visor

the student has become the etcetera

hmmyes

vote: visor

[Winston Hughes]

this would be a really funny game to get d1ed in given i feel like i have more TRs this game than 95% of my games and i havent been mislunched in years

bring it suckers tbh

such a post

:bow:

[Cape90]

i thought cape was town?

"from that list"

[SilverKeith]

I've backread a bit and I don't want to lunch taffy, mostly because I think their post building structure makes them a player that's possible to read for me.

[Raskolnikov]

Katze (3): ender, SK, Winston
Sk(3): Dya, katze, cuth
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
ladd(1): achro
Achro(1): Taffy
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Cape

Not voting (0):

[Cape90]

katze didnt read part of a post

lock wolf

[Achro]

im getting the feeling i accidentally skipped one or did not fully digest your wallpost.

"if I think cape is town it means he is scum"

As is Achro tradition.

(Cape would be an info chop based off movement around them today)

[insomnia]

What do you think about cape posts rn?

idk im just kinda skimming and don't have a clue

some things he's doing feel overblown for me. like saying winston will be found as lhf and wolfy when most of the thread found him villagery already feels fake, unless i missed some posts where people were debating killing him

[Cuthillius]

threads villagery
ender's not
refusal to explain reads
he's in lots of poes but no one wants to dsicuss or vote him

vibes idk

even now theres so much hesitance to spark something up and see what happens

i mean sure let's talk about it

you think he's a wolf who's just stonewalling every time he's asked for clarification? it's not like he hasn't been in thread a fair number of times, and i think he would just feel more pressure to actually say stuff (anything) if he was w

[nebjiamn]

i'm presenting in a meeting that starts in 4 mins so i prob won't be able to change my vote as we get to eod

will prob stay on ender here unless there' more clarity in the next few mins

[Cuthillius]

visor what are your actual reads where are you at wrt gamestate overall?

[Cape90]

So why are we voting cape again?

do you not find my logs scummy?

[ladd]

idk im just kinda skimming and don't have a clue

some things he's doing feel overblown for me. like saying winston will be found as lhf and wolfy when most of the thread found him villagery already feels fake, unless i missed some posts where people were debating killing him

Ya i feel he is exaggerating his reads but otoh i am getting some DOUBTS and i am pondering if i should sheep benneh on ender

[nebjiamn]

i mean sure let's talk about it

you think he's a wolf who's just stonewalling every time he's asked for clarification? it's not like he hasn't been in thread a fair number of times, and i think he would just feel more pressure to actually say stuff (anything) if he was w
ill just counterpoint you with: hey, this strat has worked (so far)

[Achro]

Ender was vibing with me heavily on several town reads which unless I am heavily skill issue'd usually indicates town in my experience.

He could be playing around me though, I suppose. I don't think he'd bother.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: benneh

[insomnia]

Ya i feel he is exaggerating his reads but otoh i am getting some DOUBTS and i am pondering if i should sheep benneh on ender

seems like a boring d1 to pick targets

[Cuthillius]

i like winston more than i did earlier

kinda concerned about benneh and by extension ladd a little bit but also think the ladd wagon here is absolutely bonkers

the size and wobbliness of the poe concerns me

[Cape90]

Have skimmed some of the last pages.

I like cape doing their own thing. Feels ok.

I think dya is ok. I feel like town dya would default to voting me often in this playerlist and in a game where I'm not really posting a lot, because they are really unfamiliar with me and thus I don't see them condifently putting me outside a POE ever. I'm not sure wolf dya takes this exit. Not related but Dya is prolly the player in this game I feel the most confident in reading correctly but that's a really low level of confidence which is fun and exciting.

never mind.

Your dya read is bugging me out slightly

why are you confident in reading them if you hardly know how they play??? I'm assuming if they hardly know you, you hardly know them

[katze]

vote: benneh

id almost rather u vote me out lol





however mislunching benneh is rly funny :curtain:

[SilverKeith]

do you not find my logs scummy?

From the start of the game? Not particularly. I wanted to see what people had to say about you.

I think your individualistic approach towards just giving reads about people and trying to solve for yourself more than interacting points toward you being a townie who wants to actually solve rather than a wolf who's objective is to missdirect.

Or you're just not that comfortable with wolfing if you're a wolf.

[ladd]

Ender was vibing with me heavily on several town reads which unless I am heavily skill issue'd usually indicates town in my experience.

He could be playing around me though, I suppose. I don't think he'd bother.

Or it could literally just be a coincidence since he only had 3 v reads and one was you

[Cuthillius]

ill just counterpoint you with: hey, this strat has worked (so far)

vote: benneh

[Achro]

vote: benneh

stop trying to kill my town reads tbh

[Winston Hughes]

however mislunching benneh is rly funny :curtain:

y u so sure?

[nebjiamn]

im a cop

[Achro]

Or it could literally just be a coincidence since he only had 3 v reads and one was you

the other two were taffy and someone else, I didnt care about me lol

[insomnia]

im a cop

br0 thinks we're playing a turb0

[Achro]

im a cop

no you aren't.

[Winston Hughes]

fuck's sake, i'm like the pied piper

[insomnia]

cape, how come katze is such an obv villager now? last time i checked you were conflicted

[Cape90]

i like 462 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847574&viewfull=1#post2053847574) from SK tho

[katze]

this questions to benneh/cuth/winston/ender/cape (esp cuth/winston cuz they voted him in sorc)

y'all were all villagers in the sorc17 game i was wolves with ladd in, its eod1 again and hes being proposed as a wagon

how do you feel about that? do you think this is similar in correctness? does it feel right to you?

i dont have a village perspective from that game but i am like... really not feeling a ladd vote. but maybe im pocketed. i can be wrong. you were all there tho, i think your perspectives might hold value

[ladd]

im a cop
I believe you

[nebjiamn]

br0 thinks we're playing a turb0
is this not the 48hour 9er?

must be in the wrong thread

[Raskolnikov]

Benneh(3): Winston, cuth, Achro
Sk(2): Dya, katze
Katze (2): ender, SK
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Achro(1): Taffy
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Cape


Not voting (0):

[SilverKeith]

never mind.

Your dya read is bugging me out slightly

why are you confident in reading them if you hardly know how they play??? I'm assuming if they hardly know you, you hardly know them

I didn't say I'm confident in reading them. They are the player I'm the most confident on reading /in this payerlist/. It just means a combination of me having a decent track record of mentally finding dya as town in some mashes an being right and just not having experience with a lot of the playerbase.

I think ladd's prolly the only player I'd put above dya.

[ladd]

this questions to benneh/cuth/winston/ender/cape (esp cuth/winston cuz they voted him in sorc)

y'all were all villagers in the sorc17 game i was wolves with ladd in, its eod1 again and hes being proposed as a wagon

how do you feel about that? do you think this is similar in correctness? does it feel right to you?

i dont have a village perspective from that game but i am like... really not feeling a ladd vote. but maybe im pocketed. i can be wrong. you were all there tho, i think your perspectives might hold value

I am not a wagon and i am not going over lol

[Winston Hughes]

with just under a half hour left, the question is: do we go easy or do we go hard?

[Totally not Taffy]

As for Taffy first off way to shade my town sorting process, but also most would agree with the process I use to sort townirs being as you described so fair.

Anyway I don't know taffy's meta but to explain I think generally it is very town indicative to look for gotchas like Taffy did with me. I feel it is more likely villagers look at past games AND also villagers don't really consider the results before cherrypicking data. Taffy got my post count right and said 'how are you going to struggle to solve?' And didn't stop to ask if I was a wolf. Or I'd town killed any wolves. Or if I posted the last day for their posts per day to be accurate. Felt very cute and town to me.

Now if this is stuff Taffy does all the time as a wolf someone will have to let me know.

From what I remember you read fast so feel free to meta dive me here (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?181993-Long-Signature-Thread&p=25254447#post25254447).



im going with my gut mostly for this d1

but im just not buying most / any of his reads. doesn't exactly feel like a perspective i'd have if i were to be wagonned in a game of this caliber

if you want a particular bad point, i kinda don't like that he seems to give people voting him leeway and focusing on people that are not stating much about him / semi-defending him, like he called out benneh for saying he was ~fine and mostly a guess. feels like a perspective a wolf would hold because they'll justify to themselves being wolfy (so they can't call out people voting them) and he had quite a lot of commentary imo

idk, he's in a game with good villagers, and he isn't calling anyone voting him out?

he feels too chill about it in a way that i can't really justify

For clarity, who are you talking about here?




I prefer to think of it as inquiring and looking for actual answers to that question but anyway ender and I are masons now. Sorry not sorry.

(Town read for the person not named ender who can guess why I am tring ender correctly.)

Townreading both you and me and low-posting Winston would be very weird positioning for a wolf regardless of any of our alignments.



Personally if I were in Katie's position as a town slot I woukd be a bit curious why SK and I both as wolves but voted Taffy and along with that didn't make any comment about our pairing being unlikely.

The fact katze thinks of that in relationship to Taffy intuitively but Keith in a big wall doesn't think about it at all along with the fact that walls are pretty easy makes me start to think more than they were just faking their thoughts. Would love to hear Keith's thoughts on the matter though.

This is a good point that I missed when reading SK's wall. However, that kind of inconsistency is more towny than wolfy imo bc wolves strive to construct their reads logically so people accept them more.




i dont think I'm wrong in saying we don't tend to read each other well, particularly in early game. I also don't think I'm wrong to say we clash rather often.

I think you took the opportunity to sheep someone who you think reads me better and vote me

I think this post is towny for Dyachei.


If dya is a wolf this is a perspective slip and ender is town.

I am not saying it is a perspective slip. Only the resulting read if dya flips wolf. Ty for your time.

This is why, I don't think wolf!Dyachei would would be sloppy like that.


See, I've lost another post I had multi-quoted, bc I had definitely quoted one of the VCs. I think Benneh and SK's votes on me come from a towny perspective, but I'm going to give Benneh more townpoints bc SK did the inherently wolfy "drop a good catch-up then dip" thing.

Contrary to that, I think it's a bit wolfy for Visor and Dyachei to agree with the reasoning for voting me but not doing so for ~sentimental? reasons, it looks like they have tmi about me being town.


Winston has to stay neutral, I think he could have easily made all posts I've read as either alignment.

[Cuthillius]

vote: achro

wahoo

[Achro]

I am not a wagon and i am not going over lol

no but you might be shot tonight.

[katze]

y u so sure?

i mean i feel p decent about him but if we lunch him then

we either ml him which is funny or kill a wolf which is hype

[Winston Hughes]

no you aren't.

:laugh4:

[SilverKeith]

The only thing I have to say about ender is that he townread me for my wall which sucked and he shouldn't know me that much to townread me for it but i'm biased about this.

[Cuthillius]

this questions to benneh/cuth/winston/ender/cape (esp cuth/winston cuz they voted him in sorc)

y'all were all villagers in the sorc17 game i was wolves with ladd in, its eod1 again and hes being proposed as a wagon

how do you feel about that? do you think this is similar in correctness? does it feel right to you?

i dont have a village perspective from that game but i am like... really not feeling a ladd vote. but maybe im pocketed. i can be wrong. you were all there tho, i think your perspectives might hold value

i honestly always think he's a bit wolfy and usually lean on other people's reads there to some extent

but he's seemed normal for what i expect out of him

don't remember that game super clearly

[katze]

I am not a wagon and i am not going over lol

ok i thought u had more votes than 0 but it also feels like people are considering it

maybe its just achro being loud, but whatever

[Totally not Taffy]

Ok I'm not getting caught up before EoD, why are we killing Benneh?

[nebjiamn]

this questions to benneh/cuth/winston/ender/cape (esp cuth/winston cuz they voted him in sorc)

y'all were all villagers in the sorc17 game i was wolves with ladd in, its eod1 again and hes being proposed as a wagon

how do you feel about that? do you think this is similar in correctness? does it feel right to you?

i dont have a village perspective from that game but i am like... really not feeling a ladd vote. but maybe im pocketed. i can be wrong. you were all there tho, i think your perspectives might hold value
i would lunch you and several other people before ladd today

then again ladd owns my soul so go with god (no dont kill ladd)

[SilverKeith]

cape, how come katze is such an obv villager now? last time i checked you were conflicted

Insom is a wolf for this post.

No real reason I just felt like this is the kind of things wolves would be asking at eod.

[Cuthillius]

oop i forgot to bold my vote

vote: ender

[Raskolnikov]

Benneh(2): Winston, Achro
Sk(2): Dya, katze
Achro(2): Taffy, cuth
Katze (2): ender, SK
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Ender(1): benneh
Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Cape


Not voting (0):

Reminder to bold your vote or suffer REDACTED

[Achro]

I was fine with taffy's vote on me - more than fine, really, I liked it - but I just realized that has been on me all day now. Kinda lazy. Dont know their meta tho.

[ladd]

Ok I'm not getting caught up before EoD, why are we killing Benneh?

We arent killing benneh

[katze]

vote: ladd

now ladd is a wagon so my question makes more sense

hehe

[Cuthillius]

vote: taffy

teehee

[nebjiamn]

Ok I'm not getting caught up before EoD, why are we killing Benneh?
we're not

[Achro]

vote: ladd

now ladd is a wagon so my question makes more sense

hehe

vote: ladd

now he is the lead wagon.

[insomnia]

think im good with voting cape still, i took a look back and checked

still feel the same way about his reads. even in this position he doesn't seem to have a strong reason for a wolf read

he's voted 2 people on the basis of "i feel you are a wolf"

[Winston Hughes]

ladd feels different

given how brutally lucky i was catching him last time, i'm totally giving him the benefit of the doubt here

[katze]

vote: ender

imo its this or cape

sk or visor are acceptable as well

[Cuthillius]

i'm actually just confused now

but the volatility here is funny

[SilverKeith]

I liked that last big taffy post.

[Cape90]

cape, how come katze is such an obv villager now? last time i checked you were conflicted

I explained in 421 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847533&viewfull=1#post2053847533) if you wanna quickly check that out.

Though I did earlier somewhat TR 139 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847248&viewfull=1#post2053847248), but actually looking back at it, I think it does read just oddly appeasey and it's like, i see the anime villain thing looking at this lol so idk, I think the only thing towny looking back at that was katze recalling their own posts there.

[Winston Hughes]

Ok I'm not getting caught up before EoD, why are we killing Benneh?

maybe we should

but we're not

[ladd]

think im good with voting cape still, i took a look back and checked

still feel the same way about his reads. even in this position he doesn't seem to have a strong reason for a wolf read

he's voted 2 people on the basis of "i feel you are a wolf"

How do you feel about ender?

[katze]

I was fine with taffy's vote on me - more than fine, really, I liked it - but I just realized that has been on me all day now. Kinda lazy. Dont know their meta tho.

i agree its lazy but theyve also been gone for like 80% of the game and i dont think have actually fully caught up so

eh?

[Achro]

I am going to make dinner, have fun at end of day and if you kill me it was fun playing with everyone again.

[SilverKeith]

Insom is a wolf for this post.

No real reason I just felt like this is the kind of things wolves would be asking at eod.

vote:insomnia

reposting for a check because my sipder senses tingled for real.

[Cuthillius]

think im good with voting cape still, i took a look back and checked

still feel the same way about his reads. even in this position he doesn't seem to have a strong reason for a wolf read

he's voted 2 people on the basis of "i feel you are a wolf"

and why does that make him a wolf

[Totally not Taffy]

we're not


We arent killing benneh

Ok then I need an accurate VC, lemme look.

[katze]

I am going to make dinner, have fun at end of day and if you kill me it was fun playing with everyone again.

did this guy rly just vote ladd disguised with my meme vote and dip so i cant yell at him for it

fucked up

[Achro]

Insom is a wolf for this post.

No real reason I just felt like this is the kind of things wolves would be asking at eod.

vote: insomnia

sheeping SK

okay now I am gone

(my spider sense agrees)

[insomnia]

How do you feel about ender?

don't feel strongly about him. my g2h take was villager for his early posting

[Cape90]

think im good with voting cape still, i took a look back and checked

still feel the same way about his reads. even in this position he doesn't seem to have a strong reason for a wolf read

he's voted 2 people on the basis of "i feel you are a wolf"

I mean, what is there to say about Visor? He's been underwhelming, he has shifted his vote around, he just doesn't have much content. He isn't as funny as I recall him as town

[SilverKeith]

vote: ender

imo its this or cape

sk or visor are acceptable as well


alrighty ty for the info

id be pretty hyped for a benneh/katze wolfrand but id bus visor so hard u have no idea...

SPEAKING OF WHICH visor is rly wolfy uwu (this isnt a real read) (maybe???)

current worldview looks something like


REDACTED READS: Winston, katze

ladd
benneh
Taffy

Cuthillius
dyachei
insomnia*
Achro

Visor
SilverKeith

Ender
Cape*

i kinda think these two are w/v like 90% of the time

feel free to ask questions in the meantime, this is my capping post ill be back in 40 min or so glgl

katze being at the same place they were a while ago is wolf indicative of them yesyes mhmmm

[Cuthillius]

I mean, what is there to say about Visor? He's been underwhelming, he has shifted his vote around, he just doesn't have much content. He isn't as funny as I recall him as town

lmfao this might be the best read i've seen all game

[Raskolnikov]

Ender(2): benneh, katze
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
insomnia(2): SK, Achro
Katze (1): ender
Benneh(1): Winston
Sk(1): Dya
Taffy(1): cuth
Achro(1): Taffy
Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Cape



Not voting (0):

[katze]

katze being at the same place they were a while ago is wolf indicative of them yesyes mhmmm

true

[insomnia]

and why does that make him a wolf

he has the best view of the game and is struggling to make a case for a wolf

he's just posting at this EoD to live in my eyes /shrug. most of his heat and passion comes in the form of asking questions in the form meant of shade, yet his votes don't come with any of that

[ladd]

I mean, what is there to say about Visor? He's been underwhelming, he has shifted his vote around, he just doesn't have much content. He isn't as funny as I recall him as town

Why is shifting the vote around wolfy tho

[Winston Hughes]

vote: katze

[SilverKeith]

I've liked what Cuth has to say but not vibing with his votes

[insomnia]

I mean, what is there to say about Visor? He's been underwhelming, he has shifted his vote around, he just doesn't have much content. He isn't as funny as I recall him as town

idk br0ski, you've made 2 votes, no?

in both of them you vote people of feels that weren't really explained. makes it hard to think you're developing wolf reads for real

[Cuthillius]

he has the best view of the game and is struggling to make a case for a wolf

he's just posting at this EoD to live in my eyes /shrug. most of his heat and passion comes in the form of asking questions in the form meant of shade, yet his votes don't come with any of that

by best view of the game do you just mean he's posted a bunch?

i guess yeah

i would agree more if his posts here felt more different than before, but they seem to have the same overall character as his posts before he was under this kind of pressure

[katze]

cape can u try to lay out ur whole worldview

[Visor]

he has the best view of the game and is struggling to make a case for a wolf

he's just posting at this EoD to live in my eyes /shrug. most of his heat and passion comes in the form of asking questions in the form meant of shade, yet his votes don't come with any of that

This is fair

[Cuthillius]

I've liked what Cuth has to say but not vibing with his votes

the timing or the content? because i think i've voted over half the playerlist in the last ten minutes

[ladd]

by best view of the game do you just mean he's posted a bunch?

i guess yeah

i would agree more if his posts here felt more different than before, but they seem to have the same overall character as his posts before he was under this kind of pressure

I tgink he means that he (cape) knows he is a villager so should have a better view kf the game since he has been so talked about and a wagon

[SilverKeith]

out of this eod I think ladd/cape are town.

I'm ok with Dya town. I'm currently ok with Achro being town.

Taffy maybe town

[katze]

visor is the lowest poster in the game and i feel like this is alignment indicative and i might even say its town indicative for him?

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Cape

Seriously.

[insomnia]

by best view of the game do you just mean he's posted a bunch?

i guess yeah

i would agree more if his posts here felt more different than before, but they seem to have the same overall character as his posts before he was under this kind of pressure

no, as in he has been a point of interest all game. he has tons of people that pushed him or defended him

yet i get the feel he's struggling hard to place a good vote down. and by good vote i mean something that seems genuine / real

his most recent vote is voting ladd because he voted him, after calling him a villager early on, despite ladd calling him a wolf at that point too. xD

[Cape90]

oh shit, we're lynching cape?!

:sweatdrop:


why have i been ignoring cape?


ah, okay

because cape doesn't seem to be acting at all

naturalistic doesn't necessarily mean townie

but i'd need something more specific to convince me to chop here

otherwise cape just seems like low hanging fruit


ladd

sell me on cape

Like I think winston if he were to be wolf

After this whole thing, he would probably just go with ladd if he was wolf if ladd is town

[Cuthillius]

Vote: Cape

Seriously.

i almost started laughing before i realized you were serious!

[SilverKeith]

the timing or the content? because i think i've voted over half the playerlist in the last ten minutes

Both? I'm not sure what your actual reads are, but saw you voting me and taffy and idk who else which was hmmm

[Cape90]

the question posed to ladd is probs not w/w if I had to guess

[Winston Hughes]

visor is the lowest poster in the game and i feel like this is alignment indicative and i might even say its town indicative for him?

*sucks air through teeth*

[Cuthillius]

vote: visor

[SilverKeith]

Visor what are ur reads

[katze]

*sucks air through teeth*

i feel like i am giving you an aneurysm with my posting this eod LMAO

sry i love u

[Cape90]

I will say one thing

Visor sussing me is Visor all right

[katze]

I will say one thing

Visor sussing me is Visor all right

:hmmyes:

[EnderWiggin]

i almost started laughing before i realized you were serious!

Okay?

I've read nothing and I'm barely awake

[ladd]

Vote: Cape

Seriously.

Sap?

[Raskolnikov]

Cape(3): ladd, insomnia, ender
Ender(2): benneh, katze
insomnia(2): SK, Achro
Visor(2): Cape, Cuth
Katze (1): Winston
Sk(1): Dya
Achro(1): Taffy
Cuth(1): Visor

[Cape90]

I kinda actually think cuth is a wolf, reading over the posts in the back half of the day is a stark contrast to how I felt earlier (where I thought his posts were fine)

Just a lot of posts in a string that seem to be tripping off my alarms

Like a wolf working the elbow grease

what exactly do you mean here?

[insomnia]

i sense in my crystal ball that there'll be like 3-4 votes on ender after his posts

[Cuthillius]

i sense in my crystal ball that there'll be like 3-4 votes on ender after his posts

is this a cop claim

[EnderWiggin]

Sap?

I woke up to see my wagon. Sup?

[ladd]

Ngl the tempation to yolo on visor is there

[SilverKeith]

i sense in my crystal ball that there'll be like 3-4 votes on ender after his posts

why?

[Visor]

I will say one thing

Visor sussing me is Visor all right

Lol what is this, I have both townread and scumread you in games

Get your selective memory outta here

[Cuthillius]

Ngl the tempation to yolo on visor is there

do it you won't

[ladd]

do it you won't

I wont

[insomnia]

why?

for real?

[SilverKeith]

Ngl the tempation to yolo on visor is there

let's give visor another day here

[Cuthillius]

I wont

damn straight

[EnderWiggin]

i sense in my crystal ball that there'll be like 3-4 votes on ender after his posts

Nevermind this is wolfier.

vote: insomnia

[Visor]

what exactly do you mean here?

Just a string of posts that had the feeling of a wolf putting in work

I didn't really like the way the posts were constructed, they felt well... Constructed rather than a natural free flowing thing that I normally get from villa cuth

[SilverKeith]

for real?

yes.

Your comment seems to imply that Ender is a wolf who's jumping on the cape wagon to save himself.

but you actively believe cape is a wolf if I'm not mistaken

so I'm asking for clarification

[Totally not Taffy]

I woke up to see my wagon. Sup?

Is there anything to the Cape vote other than self-preservation?

[insomnia]

Just a string of posts that had the feeling of a wolf putting in work

I didn't really like the way the posts were constructed, they felt well... Constructed rather than a natural free flowing thing that I normally get from villa cuth

tbh he did come out of the woodworks with a ton of stuff as soon as eod chaos struck down

[Visor]

Nevermind this is wolfier.

vote: insomnia
I
I am regretting townreadjnf you earlier I think

[Cape90]

yea that was similarish to my read on him (i also liked his ender villa read at the time)

but i feel like you can apply this to almost anyone so i dunno

This is hedgy in a scummy way


yea, this is more or less where I am at

why w/v on cape/ender?

And I think even ladd knows this is LOL.

Like me saying "hey I sus ladd and Visor" does NOT mean I think they are paired

[insomnia]

yes.

Your comment seems to imply that Ender is a wolf who's jumping on the cape wagon to save himself.

but you actively believe cape is a wolf if I'm not mistaken

so I'm asking for clarification

no, my comment seems to imply that ender is gonna get votes for his posts

[Winston Hughes]

katze/visor/dya

:creep:

[ladd]

Nevermind this is wolfier.

vote: insomnia

How

[EnderWiggin]

Is there anything to the Cape vote other than self-preservation?

I thought they were wolfiest of the counterwagons.

[Cuthillius]

tbh he did come out of the woodworks with a ton of stuff as soon as eod chaos struck down

i was posting consistently and then said i'd be back at eod and people talked to me in between

[insomnia]

Nevermind this is wolfier.

vote: insomnia

wolfier how?

[SilverKeith]

no, my comment seems to imply that ender is gonna get votes for his posts

Ok so let's go for the full loop.

Why?

[katze]

Just a string of posts that had the feeling of a wolf putting in work

I didn't really like the way the posts were constructed, they felt well... Constructed rather than a natural free flowing thing that I normally get from villa cuth

i feel like cuths posts always lok constructed because he uses words that no human on earth knows exists and also makes minecraft villager noises and i think sometimes words in other languages or just gibberish im not rly sure

this is to say i feel like hes always free flowing and also crafting his posts simultaneously

[ladd]

How

And wolfier than what?

[EnderWiggin]

I
I am regretting townreadjnf you earlier I think

Don't.

[insomnia]

i was posting consistently and then said i'd be back at eod and people talked to me in between

i meant more that you spent most of the game asking thoughts on 3-4 people and now you came out guns blazing imo

[Cape90]

idk man, i know you can argue why would he ever post like this as a wolf


but this reasoning for what seems to be a genuine villa read makes 0 sense to me



the wolfiest thing about katze is pobably their cape read which...I am not sure i follow


Benneh thoughts on visor?

I actually like this though on EnderWiggin.

[katze]

This is hedgy in a scummy way



And I think even ladd knows this is LOL.

Like me saying "hey I sus ladd and Visor" does NOT mean I think they are paired

wha

the 2nd post is him asking me a question because he miread my reads? lol

im like 95% sure even if hes a wolf he genuinely misunderstood that

[EnderWiggin]

How

"Other people please vote this."

Idk maybe me issue but feels that way

[Raskolnikov]

insomnia(3): SK, Achro, ender
Cape(2): ladd, insomnia
Ender(2): benneh, katze
Visor(2): Cape, Cuth
Katze (1): Winston
Sk(1): Dya
Achro(1): Taffy
Cuth(1): Visor

EOD in 10 minutes

[Visor]

i feel like cuths posts always lok constructed because he uses words that no human on earth knows exists and also makes minecraft villager noises and i think sometimes words in other languages or just gibberish im not rly sure

this is to say i feel like hes always free flowing and also crafting his posts simultaneously

No ofc he does that

That's not the point

It's the way his thoughts flow on the page

[Cuthillius]

i meant more that you spent most of the game asking thoughts on 3-4 people and now you came out guns blazing imo

fair enough

[EnderWiggin]

And wolfier than what?

Cape? Insom/Cape are the people level with me

[Cape90]

i find ladd just outright saying "cape will probably flip wolf" to also be towny slightly

[insomnia]

"Other people please vote this."

Idk maybe me issue but feels that way

my posts seemed to imply you'd be a mislunch more than anything, but ok ?

[Winston Hughes]

it's still katze tho

[Visor]

Damn raskol is Wolfy he's only posted tallies

:curtain:

[Cape90]

i think their posts and thoughts are good. As I said idt they make the below post as a wolf - they'd just vote me given their wolf mojo imo:



and this was a pretty villagery explanation on cape:



that lines up with how they played in their opening

b ut this is how I would formulate a read if I was wolf NGL

[ladd]

"Other people please vote this."

Idk maybe me issue but feels that way

I think it was sarcasm/joke or whatever you wanna call iy

[Cuthillius]

vote: cape

[katze]

cape feels like he has no idea whats going on and it might be towny

[insomnia]

where's dya to say nobody is defending cape

this EoD was a clownshow lol

[SilverKeith]

my posts seemed to imply you'd be a mislunch more than anything, but ok ?

hmpf

[katze]

it's still katze tho

</3

[Raskolnikov]

Damn raskol is Wolfy he's only posted tallies

:curtain:

:bow:

[Totally not Taffy]

I thought they were wolfiest of the counterwagons.

Hmm I think we learn more by killing Cape than Insomnia but Insomnia is slightly more likely to be a wolf. I'm conflicted.

[katze]

</3

why did my broken heart disappear

[Cuthillius]

it's still katze tho

i'm not really feeling it

unless like benneh is wolfing or something

[insomnia]

Hmm I think we learn more by killing Cape than Insomnia but Insomnia is slightly more likely to be a wolf. I'm conflicted.

why?

[Winston Hughes]

cape feels like he has no idea whats going on and it might be towny

gwah

[katze]

im just gonna keep posting my intrusive thoughts so winston keeps freaking out at me

gl at eod guis

[ladd]

cape feels like he has no idea whats going on and it might be towny

So what now

[SilverKeith]

cape feels like he has no idea whats going on and it might be towny

lost villager.

I have no meta on cape but what he's doing now feels townie unless he's specifically posturing this playstyle as a wolf while being the calmest mfer about him getting likely lunched.

[EnderWiggin]

Vote:Cape

Nyeh maybe I overreacted on insom.

Will vote Katze if viable

[katze]

So what now

idk i might still pivot to him, maybe ill hero insom, maybe ill just vote ender

not sure lol go with god dont go with katze

[SilverKeith]

Hmm I think we learn more by killing Cape than Insomnia but Insomnia is slightly more likely to be a wolf. I'm conflicted.

lettuce not infolunch

[Winston Hughes]

im just gonna keep posting my intrusive thoughts so winston keeps freaking out at me

gl at eod guis

:laugh4:

i did my best

[Visor]

We could always kill achro

[ladd]

idk i might still pivot to him, maybe ill hero insom, maybe ill just vote ender

not sure lol go with god dont go with katze

God is in a meeting rn

:curtain:

[Totally not Taffy]

where's dya to say nobody is defending cape

this EoD was a clownshow lol

How is pushing other people not defending Cape?

[ladd]

We could always kill achro

I wish

[Cape90]

you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg


you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

This is the same person who has said in the thread they were confident that I would probably flip wolf

KILL LADD WITH FIRE

vote: ladd

[SilverKeith]

We could always kill achro

towny post from visor regardless of achro alignment imo

[insomnia]

How is pushing other people not defending Cape?

26581

[Winston Hughes]

so what's the choice now?

[Raskolnikov]

Cape(4): ladd, insomnia, Cuth, ender
insomnia(2): SK, Achro
Ender(2): benneh, katze
ladd(1): Cape
Katze (1): Winston
Sk(1): Dya
Achro(1): Taffy
Cuth(1): Visor

EOD in 5 minutes

[Totally not Taffy]

why?

Bc Cape is being sussed for things I've seen him do all the time, and you've been more generally agreeable which is how I think of you as a wolf.

[katze]

I wish

is that "i wish, but hes town" or "i wish, but it won't happen"

[SilverKeith]

ok idk what to think about cape's ladd push bc I don't follow it