13er summer game thread

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Winston Hughes

:curtain:

:sweatdrop:

[nebjiamn]

?vote: sk

[katze]

it has its uses

oh i was expecting you to go feral on that one

what about chess sticks? i really like string chess so i can pull them apart and tickle myself with the thin strings

[Visor]

Vote: Katze


fuck it

go rams

[EnderWiggin]

alright maybe achro is a villager lol

Achro has been obvious villager that I only doubted because of pocket fear.

[katze]

Vote: Katze


fuck it

go rams

i think my eod is very towny

[SilverKeith]

explain to me in detail how the visor vig claim makes more sense as a wolf than as a villager here

Why wouldn't you claim a pr as a wolf to have one more day? If he's the wolf poisoner it makes all the sense in the world, doesn't it? Even if he really thought ender had a red, you still claim to check pppls reaction, you lose nothing if you're a wolf.

I think the only good point about the visor villager claim is that he claims he holstered. And even then this is wifom.

But in ppl's mind he shuold looks WORSE from holstering so I'm not sure if wolf!visor 200iqs into claiming he holstered so ppl will think he wouldn't have done it as a wolf even if he knows it'd look terrible.

[Winston Hughes]

oh i was expecting you to go feral on that one

what about chess sticks? i really like string chess so i can pull them apart and tickle myself with the thin strings

you pervert

[Winston Hughes]

i think my eod is very towny

this recent chat is the towniest you've been

tempted to switch to visor tbh

[katze]

anyway SK i should prob reply to that but uh

you are right that you are someone i wanted to play with a fair bit, i thought your posting was not great and that a lot of people were villagery, i opened up the day thinking that it was going to be another kinda decided at sod yeet

evidently i was wrong

but i don't think me being lazy makes me a wolf, and i think since then i've pretty evidently tried to solve more than just commenting at shrugyeeting at sod?

[katze]

this recent chat is the towniest you've been

tempted to switch to visor tbh

im glad we can bond over the truly important things in this mafia game

[insomnia]

alright maybe achro is a villager lol

you were debating that??

[Visor]

this recent chat is the towniest you've been

tempted to switch to visor tbh

oi you colonial dog

i dunno if i really believe you believe im a wolf - i think you would be filled with glee at catching me if you thought i was one

[SilverKeith]

how should I read you

you had what i call a bad eod d1

you were a heavy suspect to start day and have really... not done much other than make a few wall posts and be pretty cautious as to how you're framing the game fypov. idk, it feels like you only show up when your name gets tossed around in the pot a bit and when it starts to cool down you dip again

and there's been a palpable resistance to your wagon all day. granted some of that was because of some mechanical stuff at play today but even without that here at eod ppl are tossing out myself and dya. one villager and someone i think is very likeyl villager

it feels like people have been willing to re-eval on everyone but you and maybe that's a dumb reason but with everything else it adds up in my world view

your call on my bad eod1 is subjective. I determined cape was townie and voted somewhere else so unless you KNOW insom is town I might've had a fully correct eod1.

Everything else you said doesn't make me a wolf that's just my playstyle it's the way I do shit.

If there's resistance to my wagon i'ts bc maybe other ppl who have seen me play know this and decide I could be a villager.

You've made no reevaluation on me so why tf would you blame other ppl for not doing so

[katze]

vote: nebjiamn

sorry for the rand brother, sorry to the town for skill issuing this one earlier lol

[insomnia]

vote: visorslash

gn

[SilverKeith]

anyway SK i should prob reply to that but uh

you are right that you are someone i wanted to play with a fair bit, i thought your posting was not great and that a lot of people were villagery, i opened up the day thinking that it was going to be another kinda decided at sod yeet

evidently i was wrong

but i don't think me being lazy makes me a wolf, and i think since then i've pretty evidently tried to solve more than just commenting at shrugyeeting at sod?

I agree that it doesn't make you a wolf but I do think it's wolf indicative.

I should also obviously offer that I respect your wolfgame (specifically some aspects of it), which make it hard for me to clear you so I do not currentyl see myself putting you out of my poe on the foreseeable future, tho I'm willing to discuss about it and also do not want to lunch you today.

[Winston Hughes]

oi you colonial dog

i dunno if i really believe you believe im a wolf - i think you would be filled with glee at catching me if you thought i was one

true, true

my awareness of that has been the only thing staying my hand

but, really, has ras given us a game with so many kill powers? that's where i'm struggling to give you any benefit of the doubt here

[Cuthillius]

Why wouldn't you claim a pr as a wolf to have one more day? If he's the wolf poisoner it makes all the sense in the world, doesn't it? Even if he really thought ender had a red, you still claim to check pppls reaction, you lose nothing if you're a wolf.

I think the only good point about the visor villager claim is that he claims he holstered. And even then this is wifom.

But in ppl's mind he shuold looks WORSE from holstering so I'm not sure if wolf!visor 200iqs into claiming he holstered so ppl will think he wouldn't have done it as a wolf even if he knows it'd look terrible.

again there are a lot of claims that would give him a much higher chance of making it another day and aren't nearly as suspicious as vig, since unless ender full rescinded there the vig claim was always completely unbelievable

and i don't think it makes sense that he'd a) make a pr claim and b) assume ender didn't have any results, because if he was a wolf the only way he could assume b was if he didn't do anything last night, in which case he'd have no need to claim pr because he'd know it was fps?

[katze]

visor is probably one too yeah but he did have a few good points and this feels more correct anyway

and id rather mislunch benneh over visor even if both are very very juicy

[Visor]

vote: visorslash

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[Winston Hughes]

vote: nebjiamn

sorry for the rand brother, sorry to the town for skill issuing this one earlier lol

why benneh?

and what is skill issuing?

[nebjiamn]

you were debating that??
if the dude wants to go on rants about how terrible everyone itg is to play with to win as mafia then so be it

do you still think visor is a wolf (unrelated but also not a loaded question)

[Visor]

true, true

my awareness of that has been the only thing staying my hand

but, really, has ras given us a game with so many kill powers? that's where i'm struggling to give you any benefit of the doubt here

why not?

[Achro]

By the way.

If I am being rude in some way in my post to post content it is because I don't understand that I am being that way. Part of the problem with my autism with new people is I don't understand what they have problems with and most things in my head sound the same, statements of fact that are true and I can say. I have not thought "people here suck" but moreso "people here are not solving in a way that I think means town is going to win" and more specifically "They aren't asking me questions and just assuming, oh my god I only have 50 posts and they keep misunderstanding and not asking me what I really meant this is terrible."

So I am like, REALLY sorry if anyone thought I was trying to make some statement... I just SEE things, ok? Like cape yesterday. I felt terrible about the day all day. I try over and over and over to say something, and then Visor just... gaslights the hell out of me, which if he is a wolf is his job and chill and totally in bounds but then everyone is like 'actually he did a vig thing idk prob town' and if visor is town then... he just didnt read my posts, mocked me, said I didnt do anything when I spent HOURS day 1 saying the cape staleness felt terrible. Hours. And then apparent town visor doesnt even READ my posts?

... And I'm the problem?

You guys... probably have no idea how you made me feel tbh. It's easy to assume I am this confident guy, and that I have infinite swagger, but... god damnit I admitted I was jittery with 50 posts and I just wanted to play with one of my favorite people and didnt want to let you down and... it was immediately turned into a suspicion because I admitted I was nervous with only 50 posts. I am not angry, I am just... sad.

Sorry. This game has upset me a lot because I struggle with interpersonal things and I dont know a lot of you very well. And the ones I do were attacking me a lot day 1 for reasons that confused me, and weren't even clarified when I asked.

I'll get over it, I am really sorry none of you should have to deal with this, it is just a bad situation. It's a team game, maybe I am like 100% wrong you know? I just.. its not about right or wrong, I just felt really personally attacked a lot this game because I am trying to be a more open person and I get called wolfy for expressing vulnerability in my solving skill... that hurts. And it didnt get any better from there.

[nebjiamn]

why benneh?

and what is skill issuing?
they're just mad my cat gif reactions are better than their own

[SilverKeith]

again there are a lot of claims that would give him a much higher chance of making it another day and aren't nearly as suspicious as vig, since unless ender full rescinded there the vig claim was always completely unbelievable

and i don't think it makes sense that he'd a) make a pr claim and b) assume ender didn't have any results, because if he was a wolf the only way he could assume b was if he didn't do anything last night, in which case he'd have no need to claim pr because he'd know it was fps?

then it's wifom, isn't it?

"Why would he claim x if z was a better claim? It must be because he's town and telling the truth."

otherwise I'm not exactly getting what you're saying sorry

[katze]

I agree that it doesn't make you a wolf but I do think it's wolf indicative.

I should also obviously offer that I respect your wolfgame (specifically some aspects of it), which make it hard for me to clear you so I do not currentyl see myself putting you out of my poe on the foreseeable future, tho I'm willing to discuss about it and also do not want to lunch you today.

yeah that's fair, that kind of goes both ways although i try to ignore being SCARED of townreading ppl if i can.

clearly that doesnt work and sometimes im just too confident and wrong but yknow. it's more fun being wrong sometimes than living in fear the entire game (is what i would say if my brain let me do that more often)

but yeah if i had to put it into words i think you've made several super villagery posts i just think they're villagery in a way that's not SUPER hard for a wolf to do artificially which i think ur kinda good at as a wolf? but theres other posts that i feel like are probably just real. and then others that i dont understand at all

it's a fun ride for all

[EnderWiggin]

Achro

I want to make it clear that my comment has nothing to do with how town performed(or didn't).

Or whether or not we win. And I don't think you are "the problem" if town loses this.

I absolutely blame my FPS if today is the crux point and wolves get away cause of it. As I said before: I had my reasons and if it fucked town up that's on me.

[Achro]

Achro

I want to make it clear that my comment has nothing to do with how town performed(or didn't).

Or whether or not we win. And I don't think you are "the problem" if town loses this.

I absolutely blame my FPS if today is the crux point and wolves get away cause of it. As I said before: I had my reasons and if it fucked town up that's on me.

I dont even care about that really, I just wish I was allowed to be open and vulnerable and honest and not suspected for it.

I'm trying to be a new person online. More authentic.

[Visor]

Achro

I want to make it clear that my comment has nothing to do with how town performed(or didn't).

Or whether or not we win. And I don't think you are "the problem" if town loses this.

I absolutely blame my FPS if today is the crux point and wolves get away cause of it. As I said before: I had my reasons and if it fucked town up that's on me.

you made me have to defend myself, the ultimate crime

[nebjiamn]

visor

talk to me more about cuth

[katze]

why benneh?

and what is skill issuing?

cause i think he's a wolf now

if i had to revive ladd to speak for me he'd say "villa benneh has sick toan and this benneh does not"

and "skill issue" is kind of a meme in the mafia universe hemisphere but i don't really know how to describe it so in this context it would translate to "i made a goof earlier lol"

[SilverKeith]

yeah that's fair, that kind of goes both ways although i try to ignore being SCARED of townreading ppl if i can.

clearly that doesnt work and sometimes im just too confident and wrong but yknow. it's more fun being wrong sometimes than living in fear the entire game (is what i would say if my brain let me do that more often)

but yeah if i had to put it into words i think you've made several super villagery posts i just think they're villagery in a way that's not SUPER hard for a wolf to do artificially which i think ur kinda good at as a wolf? but theres other posts that i feel like are probably just real. and then others that i dont understand at all

it's a fun ride for all
It's ok I agree with your points, you're allowed to be wrong about me if we're V and we can be wrong together.

You're right I'm in my wolfrange (prolly) but if I were a wolf I'd lie and say I'm already out of it (real)

[nebjiamn]

cause i think he's a wolf now

if i had to revive ladd to speak for me he'd say "villa benneh has sick toan and this benneh does not"

and "skill issue" is kind of a meme in the mafia universe hemisphere but i don't really know how to describe it so in this context it would translate to "i made a goof earlier lol"
oh are you being serious

lol

good luck

[Cuthillius]

then it's wifom, isn't it?

"Why would he claim x if z was a better claim? It must be because he's town and telling the truth."

otherwise I'm not exactly getting what you're saying sorry

vig claim means visor dies today unless fully rescinded

other pr claims mean visor could survive even motion detected or something like that

but his specific claim would be suicidal as wolf unless he had 100% confidence ender was faking the peek

unless i'm missing something

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally

Visor(3): SK, Taffy, insom
Benneh(3): Achro, ender, katze
SK(2): Dya, Benneh
katze(2): WH, Visor
insom(1): cuth

[SilverKeith]

I'm not sure how to feel about katze's letting go of their benneh townread at this eod because I thought they could be paired.

[Achro]

Also SK is probably town because he fought hard against the wolf narrative day 1 which was 100% imo 'cape needs to die, ok thanks ladd bye'

for what its worth

[Visor]

visor

talk to me more about cuth

idk, im finding his last 12 hours wrt hard to parse, he thought i was a lock wolf, and now hes basically defending my claim as not making sense from a wolf pov to skeith

idk, i think him randomly wheeling onto you was fairly villagery, especially given how out of the blue it was, i think insom, myself, skeith, easy targets (right or wrong) comparatively to someone like you who hasnt got the heat in the game

i think id lean ont he side of being a villager, but im not confident (in anything)

[Cuthillius]

yo katze wanna play correspondence chess? you send me chess and i eat it

i'd love some manchego for instance

[Achro]

I'm not sure how to feel about katze's letting go of their benneh townread at this eod because I thought they could be paired.

she's town. Trust the fish, you know I am a savant sometimes on towncoring.

[nebjiamn]

Current tally

Visor(3): SK, Taffy, insom
Benneh(3): Achro, ender, katze
SK(3): Dya, , Benneh
katze(2): WH, Visor
insom(1): cuth

i hard claim town extra voter

lock clear

[dyachei]

holy shit where are there suddenly ten pages to catch up on

[Cuthillius]

idk, im finding his last 12 hours wrt hard to parse, he thought i was a lock wolf, and now hes basically defending my claim as not making sense from a wolf pov to skeith

idk, i think him randomly wheeling onto you was fairly villagery, especially given how out of the blue it was, i think insom, myself, skeith, easy targets (right or wrong) comparatively to someone like you who hasnt got the heat in the game

i think id lean ont he side of being a villager, but im not confident (in anything)

i'm arguing that you're almost certainly v now for the exact same reasons i thought you were a wolf earlier

[SilverKeith]

vig claim means visor dies today unless fully rescinded

other pr claims mean visor could survive even motion detected or something like that

but his specific claim would be suicidal as wolf unless he had 100% confidence ender was faking the peek

unless i'm missing something

You are correct but I think wolf visor considers living one more day as a win and that's that, don't think he'd get more than that unless certain specific scenarios I guess.

[dyachei]

achro

this is a chill game

I'm not reading a post that's 10 pages long

[Visor]

i'm arguing that you're almost certainly v now for the exact same reasons i thought you were a wolf earlier

go me

[Cuthillius]

You are correct but I think wolf visor considers living one more day as a win and that's that, don't think he'd get more than that unless certain specific scenarios I guess.

yes but his claim would not maximize his chances of living one more day??

[katze]

yo katze wanna play correspondence chess? you send me chess and i eat it

i'd love some manchego for instance

Ke4

[SilverKeith]

yes but his claim would not maximize his chances of living one more day??

again, wifom, but yes.

[EnderWiggin]

I dont even care about that really, I just wish I was allowed to be open and vulnerable and honest and not suspected for it.

I'm trying to be a new person online. More authentic.

After we're both dead I'll talk to you about this more. But I also want to be clear that my comment had nothing to do with suspecting you.

Or hell, your alignment either. I want to be clear that the mech of the game and my comment are totally dissociated.

But anyway, no more of me talking about this in thread for my last... 20 minutes of living.

[SilverKeith]

this is a test

vote: insom

[Cuthillius]

again, wifom, but yes.

vote: silverkeith

it's literally mechanics

[Achro]

achro

this is a chill game

I'm not reading a post that's 10 pages long

44

and I unchilled it

and I think you're a wolf

so that is chill

[Winston Hughes]

I dont even care about that really, I just wish I was allowed to be open and vulnerable and honest and not suspected for it.

I'm trying to be a new person online. More authentic.

as someone who spent a couple of years getting d1 mislynched across multiple sites for being open and vulnerable and honest (well, the first two anyway), i can say that the main thing you need to accompany that approach is caring a whole lot less about whether people listen to you, believe you, understand you, or suspect you

you either learn to enjoy the game despite everyone calling you scum (or worse) or you probably need to be more guarded

[Visor]

again, wifom, but yes.

everything is mafia is wifom, make a read move on with your life

[katze]

i dont understand why cuth is like, trying to say visors claim is villagery because a wolf would claim differently to live longer when he literally claimed on the premise he could prove himself tonight if he lives today

[dyachei]

44

and I unchilled it

and I think you're a wolf

so that is chill

then you suck at reading me

[SilverKeith]

vote: silverkeith

it's literally mechanics

vote: cuthillius.


mech this you filthy wolf

[Visor]

#teamkillkatze

[katze]

#teamkillkatze

for why

[Totally not Taffy]

Vote: Taffy

Stop trying to look for a town to flash onto.



ender/visor/katze

and, no, i'm not the poisoner

Why Katze in that list?



if i am the goddamn wolf poisoner (KP!) then why has zero fucking people defended me today

Now, now, I gave you a very lukewarm "I think he's a better wolf than this" defense earlier today.




Insomnia has some meh posts but he isn't with visor after a full iso SilverKeith tbh

I disagree most strongly and this EoD makes me believe more in my Visor/Achro/Insomnia solve.



for real though why are we ignoring taffy

Should've shot me when you had the chance ~;)



Anyway, I'm king for the day. If I am wrong, I'll eat the loss for town.
I am willing to be made King. If we kill any of them and they are town, you can kill me. Dya not today just cause MAYBE skill issue, but if visor or benneh is town then I have failed and deserve death.

Kingmaker is the worst form of fps. You are not king. Since Visor is part of your solve, why are you trying to shift votes away from him this entire time?



This thread is moving too fast for me to follow and it's too close to 2am.

[Achro]

as someone who spent a couple of years getting d1 mislynched across multiple sites for being open and vulnerable and honest (well, the first two anyway), i can say that the main thing you need to accompany that approach is caring a whole lot less about whether people listen to you, believe you, understand you, or suspect you

you either learn to enjoy the game despite everyone calling you scum (or worse) or you probably need to be more guarded

I don't mind the scum portion, I mind what feels like ... stonewalling, I guess? I just think fundamentally unless certain people are wolf they just made no good faith effort to ever solve me.

I've been playing mafia a long time, I get suspicion. I just wish people I thought were obv town would try to find me harder....

[Cuthillius]

i dont understand why cuth is like, trying to say visors claim is villagery because a wolf would claim differently to live longer when he literally claimed on the premise he could prove himself tonight if he lives today

what

if ender hadn't fully rescinded we would have just killed visor here

that's literally my whole point

[Visor]

for why

wynaut

[Achro]

Stop trying to look for a town to flash onto.




Why Katze in that list?




Now, now, I gave you a very lukewarm "I think he's a better wolf than this" defense earlier today.





I disagree most strongly and this EoD makes me believe more in my Visor/Achro/Insomnia solve.




Should've shot me when you had the chance ~;)




Kingmaker is the worst form of fps. You are not king. Since Visor is part of your solve, why are you trying to shift votes away from him this entire time?



This thread is moving too fast for me to follow and it's too close to 2am.

...

are you fucking ill?

[SilverKeith]

vote: cuthillius.


mech this you filthy wolf

I don't actually disagree with cuth that much on his mech read and I'm making shit up to win the argument but I think that

- him saying my points didn't make sense
- Proceeding to only focus on this part of the game (visor's claim) that isn't really relevant to the game, while THE REST OF THE GAME IS HAPPENING
- giving me shit for it even if me being "wrong" about mech isn't even meaningful

is actually wolfy.

[nebjiamn]

idk, im finding his last 12 hours wrt hard to parse, he thought i was a lock wolf, and now hes basically defending my claim as not making sense from a wolf pov to skeith

idk, i think him randomly wheeling onto you was fairly villagery, especially given how out of the blue it was, i think insom, myself, skeith, easy targets (right or wrong) comparatively to someone like you who hasnt got the heat in the game

i think id lean ont he side of being a villager, but im not confident (in anything)
but for that exact reason i think he's a wolf?

his post outlines all the reaosns why i'm a wolf with katze and its entirely around how katze reads me and fits as a potential partner

which, at the time, sure, i get

but it presupposes katze is a wolf and meanwhile he has nothing really to go on for them? (I actually outlined all the things he attached as wolf for me were all the things kat did in my reply to him and he shrugged it off)

and like, its easy for him to attach me there when its conditional, but if its conditional why hasn't he developed or sussed out kat since then? it feels like from that post, his sole focus was to put suspicion on me

there was some other stuff that i thought linked him to sk/achro potentially but im ignoring that now since conditionals are proven dumb

[Achro]

or maybe you are just sleep deprived

I moved to benneh because I was trying to compromise

You are the worst.

[insomnia]

ender / taffy / achro / cuth

winston / dya - if things are terribly wrong, then maybe 1 here



visor / benneh / katze / sk


this bout it

[Cuthillius]

ok can we just kill sk

[Visor]

I disagree most strongly and this EoD makes me believe more in my Visor/Achro/Insomnia solve.


uh i gotta say

thats a WILD TEAM

[Achro]

vote: visor

knowing this thread we're going to see if I am skill issue'd on sk or not I guess.

[katze]

what

if ender hadn't fully rescinded we would have just killed visor here

that's literally my whole point

yea but if he didnt change the claim to MD (im p sure visor claimed vig before he changed the red to a MD red, it was an alignment cop red at first) then like. ok you're a wolf and red peeked what do you claim to ever buy yourself time

if it was specifically a MD red then id prob agree w you "i holstered as a full vig" is p wild


wynaut

im town



also taffy i think if achro and visor are wolves together than they can win this game for all i care at this point. just seems like its never the case 2 me

[nebjiamn]

...

are you fucking ill?
bruh

take a breath

[Visor]

man imagine if achro/me were w/w

thats some distancing

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally

SK(3): Dya, , Benneh, cuth
Visor(3): Taffy, insom, Achro
Benneh(2): ender, katze
katze(2): WH, Visor

Cuth(1): SK

EOD in 14 min

[SilverKeith]

vote: visor

knowing this thread we're going to see if I am skill issue'd on sk or not I guess.

I'm going to be real with you but if visor flips wolf I think it'd look worse on you than if he were to flip town.

[dyachei]

sk just like

seems connected enough to the thread to know whats going on then comes in and talks really bland shit about it that does nothing

[katze]

anyway achro i get the being frustrated with reads on you thing, im used to it. the way i play definitely doesnt help but people just assuming im always in wolf range is deffo a part of it. i think ive done my best to solve u this game and im sorry if u disagree

also i really think you should leave the thread for like 10 more minutes and take a breather, mbe go on a quick walk

[Cuthillius]

I don't actually disagree with cuth that much on his mech read and I'm making shit up to win the argument but I think that

- him saying my points didn't make sense
- Proceeding to only focus on this part of the game (visor's claim) that isn't really relevant to the game, while THE REST OF THE GAME IS HAPPENING
- giving me shit for it even if me being "wrong" about mech isn't even meaningful

is actually wolfy.

dude

i think visor is ~clear at this point by the mechanics of his claim

and that makes a big difference in my reads

and you're still w-reading him

and so i'm trying to explain the logic to you and it doesn't seem like you're even trying to hear what i'm saying

what on earth else should i be doing right now

[Visor]

im just glad we have a spicy eod lol

[SilverKeith]

sk just like

seems connected enough to the thread to know whats going on then comes in and talks really bland shit about it that does nothing

wtf would you want me to say? I don't get it

[nebjiamn]

sk just like

seems connected enough to the thread to know whats going on then comes in and talks really bland shit about it that does nothing
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cuthillius]

man imagine if achro/me were w/w

thats some distancing

i believe it

[EnderWiggin]

also taffy i think if achro and visor are wolves together than they can win this game for all i care at this point. just seems like its never the case 2 me

I agree with this specifically because of Achro turning around into "Look Visor contridicted himself" midday. The only way that makes sense is if they actively did think I had a red and were turning w/w to distance for my red.

Which tbh isn't the craziest idea but I don't think I broadcast it that loud that I was planning a guilty.

[katze]

the team is me visor and achro and we've done nothing but distance all game

yall never stood a chance

[SilverKeith]

dude

i think visor is ~clear at this point by the mechanics of his claim

and that makes a big difference in my reads

and you're still w-reading him

and so i'm trying to explain the logic to you and it doesn't seem like you're even trying to hear what i'm saying

what on earth else should i be doing right now

Sorry I don't buy that you think visor is clear for his claim.

I'd buy if you were willing to give him another day but saying a claim clears him is bs.

Like it's just words he's a good wolf how tf could it clear him.

[dyachei]

wtf would you want me to say? I don't get it

idk, try to solve the game and push your reads?

like everyone else in the game?

[katze]

im just glad we have a spicy eod lol

i wish it was a different kind of spicy, this isnt rly the chill game i wanted to play

[insomnia]

seems like the type of game that is PoEable but we’re all gonna have a terrible time until we start hitting the wolves

[Cuthillius]

Sorry I don't buy that you think visor is clear for his claim.

I'd buy if you were willing to give him another day but saying a claim clears him is bs.

Like it's just words he's a good wolf how tf could it clear him.

?????????

this is the most pointless interaction i have had all game and that's saying something

[Visor]

idk, try to solve the game and push your reads?

like everyone else in the game?

i appreciate you putting me in the list with everyone else

[Cuthillius]

vote: katze

joycat

[dyachei]

seems like the type of game that is PoEable but we’re all gonna have a terrible time until we start hitting the wolves

i already feel like i need to re-evaluate everything because think this AtE outburst from achro is probably towny and I like benneh for pointing it out and they were both in my poe

[insomnia]

the people i have semi doubts on in my village reads are absent and i tinfoil, then they pop in and make posts that are 10x villagerier than any of the people in my PoE

[katze]

yea but if he didnt change the claim to MD (im p sure visor claimed vig before he changed the red to a MD red, it was an alignment cop red at first) then like. ok you're a wolf and red peeked what do you claim to ever buy yourself time

if it was specifically a MD red then id prob agree w you "i holstered as a full vig" is p wild


@cuth im still missing what ur seeing here i thinks

[Achro]

Well, it's going to be fun tomorrow when I have no WIM and if SK is town we will argue how Achro tried his best to say two dead town (and also 2 dead PR) were town but somehow he is a wolf.

If you tr me I'd ask you to vote visor with me, because if I am wrong town isnt gonna win anyway lol

[nebjiamn]

?????????

this is the most pointless interaction i have had all game and that's saying something
w/w

:curtain:

[SilverKeith]

idk, try to solve the game and push your reads?

like everyone else in the game?

I never NEVER push my reads I never trust them ppl can assure you.

My solve was done overnight I can't fucking solve here with 10 mints remaining but a lot of shit has happened (visor claim, cuth shit on me, benneh/katze being wolves, insom frozen) and i can't parse all of it in the meantime when I'm fucking fighting to tell y'all that I'm not a wolf and your reasons for wolfreading me suck.

[Visor]

roasting katzes on an open flame

extremely villagery behaviour

[katze]

vote: katze

joycat

lol i legitimately feel like my eod is the villageriest of anyones here except mbe achro but im an emotionless blob rn so it doesnt count

[dyachei]

the people i have semi doubts on in my village reads are absent and i tinfoil, then they pop in and make posts that are 10x villagerier than any of the people in my PoE

like who?

[Cuthillius]

sk/benneh
katze/insom/taffy?

[katze]

roasting katzes on an open flame

extremely villagery behaviour

still waiting for a reason

[insomnia]

i already feel like i need to re-evaluate everything because think this AtE outburst from achro is probably towny and I like benneh for pointing it out and they were both in my poe

visor is prob the poisoner

sk keeps making posts that don’t do anything or the logic just wows me in a wolfy way

katze is just shitposting and i feel like he’s barely showed any solving or thought process

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


katze(3): WH, Visor, cuth
Visor(3): Taffy, insom, Achro
Benneh(2): ender, katze
SK(2): Dya, , Benneh,

Cuth(1): SK

EOD in 10 minutes

[Achro]

katze had a fantastic day in wolf visor worlds btw. Lots of solving, asking questions, grilled benneh a lot too

katze is just town imo

[Visor]

visor is prob the poisoner

sk keeps making posts that don’t do anything or the logic just wows me in a wolfy way

katze is just shitposting and i feel like he’s barely showed any solving or thought process

poison deez nuts pal

[katze]

visor is prob the poisoner

sk keeps making posts that don’t do anything or the logic just wows me in a wolfy way

katze is just shitposting and i feel like he’s barely showed any solving or thought process

i am definitely solving and showing thought process bronana

im also shitposting as a 2 for 1 deal, u should be grateful

[dyachei]

katze elim seems really dumb. lets not do that

[EnderWiggin]

i already feel like i need to re-evaluate everything because think this AtE outburst from achro is probably towny and I like benneh for pointing it out and they were both in my poe

Wasn't it insom that pointed it out?

[Achro]

also I have drained all my emotions into a pot, I am calm again.

skill issue on my part tbh

[Visor]

still waiting for a reason

i dont have to give a reason

im a villager

[katze]

i dont have to give a reason

im a villager

yeah but i am too so you now have to give a reason

[SilverKeith]

don't think I'm voting katze here no

[Cuthillius]

@cuth im still missing what ur seeing here i thinks

ok i think you have a bit of a point i might be generalizing the feelings from visor being lock w after md claim into the stuff before

i still think there are a lot of better claims than vig there??

but you're right it's not lock

[insomnia]

like who?

you / taffy

i had moments on doubting winston / cuth but im rocking with it atp

[Achro]

anyway no need to town read me for that, if I was frustrated wolf I might do the same. Emotions with me are not reliable tells, and I'd never tell you to try to read me on them or the lack of them.

kthx

[EnderWiggin]

I don't think Katze is wolf here mebe.

[katze]

actually visor ill just vote you if you keep doing that

i think its correct to not vote you but i still think your claim is rly wolfy and i would rather not die

[Cuthillius]

vote: insomnia

[Visor]

taffy having an achro/visor/insom team is just wild and idk if its twtbaw or just wolf out of sync sticking to reads

[SilverKeith]

I really either am dumb and don't get wtf cuth is saying or he's a wolf.

[Achro]

I don't think Katze is wolf here mebe.

she did a great job solving if she is tbh. Her perspective was good all day.

[Cuthillius]

actually visor ill just vote you if you keep doing that

i think its correct to not vote you but i still think your claim is rly wolfy and i would rather not die

really wolfy?

[dyachei]

i will awlays vote visor over katze here

[SilverKeith]

vote: insomnia

vote: insomnia

[EnderWiggin]

anyway no need to town read me for that, if I was frustrated wolf I might do the same. Emotions with me are not reliable tells, and I'd never tell you to try to read me on them or the lack of them.

kthx

I had you as town yesterday except for me being afraid of the pocket.

[nebjiamn]

i don't think katze is a wolf either as much funa s id have dumpstering them rn

vote sk imo

[Winston Hughes]

vote: visor

[Visor]

Vote: insomnia

in cuth we trust

[Cuthillius]

taffy having an achro/visor/insom team is just wild and idk if its twtbaw or just wolf out of sync sticking to reads

taffy feels similar to sk in my mind

which is a thing

[katze]

ok i think you have a bit of a point i might be generalizing the feelings from visor being lock w after md claim into the stuff before

i still think there are a lot of better claims than vig there??

but you're right it's not lock

i really think there's not that many claims he can pull out when a guy is claiming a redcheck on u

like unironically vig is one of the best ones i can think of but meh

like i said i dont rly wanna vote him if i can avoid it

[Cuthillius]

Vote: insomnia

in cuth we trust

i wouldn't trust in me

[Visor]

taffy feels similar to sk in my mind

which is a thing

i agree! i said it earlier

[dyachei]

you know the funny thing about achro thinking im a wolf is that he keeps saying the same things as me after I say them

[Achro]

I had you as town yesterday except for me being afraid of the pocket.

yeah just saying dya saying the "ate" was towny. It's not, it's just emotions. I fundamentally don't believe in ATE.

[Visor]

vote: visor

england doesnt have the ashes

[insomnia]

I really either am dumb and don't get wtf cuth is saying or he's a wolf.


vote: insomnia

:y:

[SilverKeith]

Vote: insomnia

in cuth we trust

actively the worst wagon ever and I'm not sure if I like it or not

[Achro]

you know the funny thing about achro thinking im a wolf is that he keeps saying the same things as me after I say them

yeah yeah but you also never followed up on any of them which is classic wolf distancing when you consider that if we chop wrong today we are in MYLO.

[SilverKeith]

:y:

so what

go ahead call me a wolf for it.

[Cuthillius]

actively the worst wagon ever and I'm not sure if I like it or not

then why are you on it

[Visor]

actively the worst wagon ever and I'm not sure if I like it or not

every bloody wagon gets vetoed lol

[insomnia]

nuke visor and sk back to back for all i care

hf im not checking thread

[dyachei]

yeah just saying dya saying the "ate" was towny. It's not, it's just emotions. I fundamentally don't believe in ATE.

ATE IS NOT EMOTIONS

thanks for comin to my ted talk

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


Visor(4): Taffy, insom, Achro, WH
Benneh(2): ender, katze
SK(2): Dya, , Benneh,
insom(3): cuth, SK, Visor


EOD in 5 minutes

[Cuthillius]

no but like actually why are you on it

[SilverKeith]

then why are you on it

science

[Winston Hughes]

england doesnt have the ashes

~:mecry:

you swine

[dyachei]

yeah yeah but you also never followed up on any of them which is classic wolf distancing when you consider that if we chop wrong today we are in MYLO.

I wasnt here eod1 due to real life

you know you're the reason this game isn't chill

[Visor]

actively the worst wagon ever and I'm not sure if I like it or not

lol hes right, you are voting insom???

[nebjiamn]

every bloody wagon gets vetoed lol
what if we just slept

we have too much information

[katze]

this is end of day 2 and it feels like the game is ending if we vote wrong
dyachei read on benneh? i feel like his eod is pretty cheeks

[Achro]

But also, if visor is town here then my entire solve kinda implodes because I started around the time ender claimed the red check

but I thought visor handled me in an almost exclusively wolfy way. But I guess this could be OMGUS even though I am very disinclined to OMGUS normally so???

[SilverKeith]

no but like actually why are you on it

I'm playing chicken with you until you inevitably vote me and argue that I was obviously being wolfy tomorrow.

[Achro]

I wasnt here eod1 due to real life

you know you're the reason this game isn't chill

Spare me your want for chillness, I never mentioned EOD.

[Visor]

vote: sleep


i want me to have more time

[dyachei]

this is end of day 2 and it feels like the game is ending if we vote wrong
dyachei read on benneh? i feel like his eod is pretty cheeks

i agree with him on SK so I'd rather flip SK

[nebjiamn]

sk >> insom >>>> visor for wagons imo

[dyachei]

Spare me your want for chillness, I never mentioned EOD.

that's literally the only time I didn't follow through

I'm following up on my wolf read right the fuck now

so get off your pity high horse

[Cuthillius]

I'm playing chicken with you until you inevitably vote me and argue that I was obviously being wolfy tomorrow.

i probably will do that

[EnderWiggin]

I just want to embrace the warm arms of death tbh.

[katze]

this eod spews me an alignment because i think everybody has actively tried to kill me or defend me this eod

[SilverKeith]

sk >> insom >>>> visor for wagons imo

wolf benneh setting up cred by distancing from wolf insom yes I believe

[Cuthillius]

this eod spews me an alignment because i think everybody has actively tried to kill me or defend me this eod

katze 3p gettem

[insomnia]

sorry i ever doubted dya

[Visor]

vote: silverkeith

i guess

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


Visor(4): Taffy, insom, Achro, WH
Benneh(2): ender, katze
SK(2): Dya, , Benneh,
insom(2): cuth, SK,

sleep(1): Visor

EOD in 3 minutes

[SilverKeith]

vote: silverkeith

i guess

why not benneh?

[Cuthillius]

vote: silverkeith

[nebjiamn]

wolf benneh setting up cred by distancing from wolf insom yes I believe
didnt you just say insom was the worst wagon in existance lol

[insomnia]

wolf benneh setting up cred by distancing from wolf insom yes I believe

lmfao how is he distancing if he’s saying to kill you?

[Achro]

Ah well in particular I am better when I have meta and practice with others or I think I have a strong feel for a person. Most of this list I don't play with too too often and is highly skilled. Perhaps it won't be rocket science though.

Most of all I think it's fun and a little intriguing. Mixes it up a bit. A truly chill experience.

I tried to head this off, but unfortunately I am pretty good at understanding myself and knew this might happen.

Oh well it doesn't matter, Taffy decided I was a wolf an hour into the game lol. Hopefully I am skill issue'd on them the most, it'd make me feel better tbh

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


Visor(4): Taffy, insom, Achro, WH
Benneh(2): ender, katze
SK(4): Dya, , Benneh, , Visor, cuth
insom(1): , SK

ninjaed!

[SilverKeith]

didnt you just say insom was the worst wagon in existance lol

I'm currently thinking cuth and visor could be wolves so ye

[Visor]

why not benneh?

i mean it could be benneh

but i believe dya is v so im hoping they are right

[katze]

let it rand

[Achro]

I just want to embrace the warm arms of death tbh.

bro same but I'm going to be dragged.

[nebjiamn]

I'm currently thinking cuth and visor could be wolves so ye
is this argentinian humor

can you spell it out for me in wowees

[katze]

i mean it could be benneh

but i believe dya is v so im hoping they are right

i just asked dya their read on benneh and they didnt give a read they just said they agreed wit hbennehs push

doesnt rly enthuse me

[SilverKeith]

vote:visor

[Cuthillius]

i just asked dya their read on benneh and they didnt give a read they just said they agreed wit hbennehs push

doesnt rly enthuse me

is this a good time to say that i thought your eod was pretty wolfy actually

[dyachei]

i just asked dya their read on benneh and they didnt give a read they just said they agreed wit hbennehs push

doesnt rly enthuse me

the implication was light v

[Visor]

meh i tired sorry village

[EnderWiggin]

Rand time?

[SilverKeith]

katze town taffy town achro town

[katze]

vote: visor

yeah i was always doing this

sorry if wrong

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


Visor(5): Taffy, insom, Achro, WH, SK
Benneh(2): ender, katze
SK(4): Dya, , Benneh, , Visor, cuth

[Cuthillius]

glgl

[insomnia]

Vote: sk

[Achro]

EnderWiggin btw, dont worry about the fps, I was just frustrated.

I hope visor is a wolf and not vig who didnt shoot me n1, would have probably helped town a lot given my communication barrier.

[nebjiamn]

glgl

[katze]

13er summer game thread

[Achro]

Hope for wolf SK, thinking town SK tho

praying emoji

[Raskolnikov]

stop posting! 5 minutes for randing tx

[Raskolnikov]

Current tally


Visor(5): Taffy, , Achro, WH, SK katze
Benneh(1): ender,
SK(5): Dya, , Benneh, , Visor, cuth insom


Just post if u spot a mistake here, tx.

[Raskolnikov]

EOD2 update.

End day tally


Visor(5): Taffy, Achro, WH, SK, katze
SK(5): Dya, Benneh, Visor, cuth, insom
Benneh(1): ender


Tie resolved randomly

Visor has been chopped! He flips town vigilante!

EnderWiggin has also died! He flips town motion detector!

SOD3 in 21h50 minutes roughly. NAs due one hour before.

glglgl

[Raskolnikov]

Start of Day 3 update

https://media0.giphy.com/media/2KA0SDTC5ouZtlsJst/giphy.gif?cid=82a1493b7yk4w09871qtrqeh6t5a0imsdlyu4v6vlyebgm67&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

dyachei has been killed! They were vanilla town.

taffy has been modkilled! (do not discuss this) She was vanilla town.

EOD3 in 48 hours (or earlier :curtain:). It is LYLO, which means locked votes. Ping me here or on discord for hammer time.


Winston Hughes
Cuthillius
nebjiamn
SilverKeith
insomnia
Achro
katze

[nebjiamn]

yikes

[Cuthillius]

i don't wanna talk about it

[insomnia]

welp, at least i may or may not be lack claire if sk is a wolf, which he must be atp

might be YELO but chances aren't as grim as they might seem

[Achro]

I did not think about this game once meaningfully in the past 24 hours because my solve got so warped around thinking Visor was red checked.

I had taffy and cuth as town regardless of visor things though, so now cuth.

If you suspect me all I can ask is that you try to ask questions before voting for me, and I will do my best to answer them in in a meaningful way.

I was looking forward to voting sleep to get more time, but guess not.

[Cuthillius]

I did not think about this game once meaningfully in the past 24 hours because my solve got so warped around thinking Visor was red checked.

I had taffy and cuth as town regardless of visor things though, so now cuth.

If you suspect me all I can ask is that you try to ask questions before voting for me, and I will do my best to answer them in in a meaningful way.

I was looking forward to voting sleep to get more time, but guess not.

o/

also i think you're a villager? probably my top v read tbh

[Achro]

o/

also i think you're a villager? probably my top v read tbh

o/

Thanks, regardless of your alignment, for keeping a cool head yesterday and explaining things in a way that made sense even when I was not at my best. I can tell you're a good egg

[insomnia]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?

[Cuthillius]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?

what do you think about it?

[Achro]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?

Katze did a lot of very good solving yesterday while I read through the thread as it related to going back and forth on Visor.

I also think it is possible that SK/Visor were V/V.

What are your strongest reasons for suspecting SK this game? It's kind of hard to ISO effectively here (for me anyway) so having your thoughts summarized would be nice.

[nebjiamn]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?
pretty goddamn wolfy

in retrospect the continued push on visor is like extremely bad given the circumstances and i'm pretty sure it just locks sk into being a wolf

[insomnia]

what do you think about it?

level 0 he doesn't wanna say something on sk to not look bad in case he flips ldo

idk he could and probably will argue he was voting visor in self-preservation, but ignoring SK there is the wolfy part when a big wagon was growing on him and dya / benneh were pushing it

[Cuthillius]

see

i agree with benneh

and i also think benneh is probably a wolf too

[nebjiamn]

Katze did a lot of very good solving yesterday while I read through the thread as it related to going back and forth on Visor.

I also think it is possible that SK/Visor were V/V.

What are your strongest reasons for suspecting SK this game? It's kind of hard to ISO effectively here (for me anyway) so having your thoughts summarized would be nice.
have you considered that visor could/would have gotten a bit more leeway if he was up against a non-wolf?

like, obviously some amount of villagers still voted him, regardless of SK's alignment, but i feel like if SK didn't have teammates visor might not have tied/gone over there since he had at least something going for him (PR claim) and SK didn't have much

idk i feel like it'd tilt the other way

[Achro]

Can everyone
Winston Hughes nebjiamn SilverKeith insomnia katze

give a summation of their (in game) thoughts of me? If they think I am a wolf, can you please list the 2 most paired partners with me? If you town read me, can you please try to find some posts that made you think at the time I could have a wolf agenda and explain why? It helps me when people directly talk about me when I am feeling lost on reads sometimes, so I would appreciate it whenever you all can.

[Cuthillius]

i didn't read anything overnight and have to do due diligence on everyone involved here but aorn at least that's where i'm at

[insomnia]

Katze did a lot of very good solving yesterday while I read through the thread as it related to going back and forth on Visor.

I also think it is possible that SK/Visor were V/V.

What are your strongest reasons for suspecting SK this game? It's kind of hard to ISO effectively here (for me anyway) so having your thoughts summarized would be nice.

lol, my impression of katze's game here was that there was 0 solving / pushing and mostly asking questions that didn't go anywhere but a strong PoE on d2, which feels odd


i don't have a golden reason for sk wolf and i wanna see if he has the view i'd expect someone in his position to have rn

it's not gonna be a grand case cuz most of it is reliant on PoE really, but i'll give him time to see how he solves here before going ballistics

[Achro]

have you considered that visor could/would have gotten a bit more leeway if he was up against a non-wolf?

like, obviously some amount of villagers still voted him, regardless of SK's alignment, but i feel like if SK didn't have teammates visor might not have tied/gone over there since he had at least something going for him (PR claim) and SK didn't have much

idk i feel like it'd tilt the other way

You think wolf Katze tries to save wolf SK by placing a vote that wouldn't even tie it? Who is the other wolf iyo?

[nebjiamn]

see

i agree with benneh

and i also think benneh is probably a wolf too
i'm not dude

and i'm not even sure how you can think that cause i don't have viable teammates fmpov unless you think its exactly me/katze/...insomnia? and then katze and i decided to flip our reads around on eachother for no good reason yesterday

[Cuthillius]

have you considered that visor could/would have gotten a bit more leeway if he was up against a non-wolf?

like, obviously some amount of villagers still voted him, regardless of SK's alignment, but i feel like if SK didn't have teammates visor might not have tied/gone over there since he had at least something going for him (PR claim) and SK didn't have much

idk i feel like it'd tilt the other way

this is a bizarre way of framing it?? i don't think sk's posts have been fantastic either but i don't think his posts have been so terrible that he'd be being run up no contest if there weren't wolves propping him up for ?some reason?

[insomnia]

Can everyone
Winston Hughes nebjiamn SilverKeith insomnia katze

give a summation of their (in game) thoughts of me? If they think I am a wolf, can you please list the 2 most paired partners with me? If you town read me, can you please try to find some posts that made you think at the time I could have a wolf agenda and explain why? It helps me when people directly talk about me when I am feeling lost on reads sometimes, so I would appreciate it whenever you all can.

i dunno, obviously you didn't do very good, but nobody has

ngl it was hard reading you because you were posting movie scripts in a game where everyone went one liners. think im at the point where you don't really ATE that hard as a wolf in that position and i think it was genuine, i could feel in the moment that your emotions were matching the thoughts you were struggling with

i kinda liked your visor case even tho it was wrong

[Cuthillius]

i'm not dude

and i'm not even sure how you can think that cause i don't have viable teammates fmpov unless you think its exactly me/katze/...insomnia? and then katze and i decided to flip our reads around on eachother for no good reason yesterday

i think it's plausible you could be w/w with sk

you only started pushing him sod2, after his posts eod1 were godawful, and iirc there was a decently strong consensus that he was quite wolfy by that point

would i ever yeet you before sk? absolutely not, but i don't see why it's super improbable

[Achro]

i dunno, obviously you didn't do very good, but nobody has

ngl it was hard reading you because you were posting movie scripts in a game where everyone went one liners. think im at the point where you don't really ATE that hard as a wolf in that position and i think it was genuine, i could feel in the moment that your emotions were matching the thoughts you were struggling with

i kinda liked your visor case even tho it was wrong

True. I now know it was two town who from hour one tunneled me for two days. I am usually good at picking up on it (I was with Taffy) but Visor's reasons broke my brain a bit (which I should have tr'd him for in hindsight, breaking my brain is a town tell)

Yeah, my prediction came true about my solving and 50 posts lol. I knew it was going to be tough for me.

[katze]

oh what the fuck

[katze]

time is stupid i did not realize it was 6

why is dya dead

[nebjiamn]

You think wolf Katze tries to save wolf SK by placing a vote that wouldn't even tie it? Who is the other wolf iyo?
i don't think katze would be afraid to vote visor there given how the narrative yesterday went no

i'm not sure there were 2 or 3 wolves on visor but there was definitely one regardless of SKs alignment (2 for sure if he IS a wolf, for clarity, but not necessarily 3)

i do think cuth and insomnia and are probably my two top villas right now despite that though. i probably need to rethink thru my reads with dya and taffy dying but on a gut level that feels right

i also want to re-evaluate SK a bit before going fully down this path

[insomnia]

katze, what was your sk read yesterday?

[katze]

what do we think of katze running it down on visor and ignoring the cw, which happened to be SK?

i didnt ignore SK i literally talked to SK during eod and stated i thought his posts were villagery...?

but ok go off i guess

[Cuthillius]

i didnt ignore SK i literally talked to SK during eod and stated i thought his posts were villagery...?

but ok go off i guess

could you please post a current readslist

[Achro]

SK I have been very torn on, half the time I think 'oh this is just a wolf', the other time I go 'oh it doesnt match the wolf agenda'

but... my wolf agenda was wrong, at least partially, so the second should probably be thrown in the trash and I go back to 'oh this is just a wolf' lol

I will have to consider team comps I suppose. Benneh felt very wolfy to me as I read but that was in the wrong context. I guess I was right that dya was the same alignment as visor (lol)

so katze/insomnia/winston/benneh/SK in my world view contains 2 town and 3 wolves.

and my instincts are telling me not katze but not sure hm.

will dig through some things tomorrow, I'll just vibe for now.

[insomnia]

i don't think katze would be afraid to vote visor there given how the narrative yesterday went no

i'm not sure there were 2 or 3 wolves on visor but there was definitely one regardless of SKs alignment (2 for sure if he IS a wolf, for clarity, but not necessarily 3)

i do think cuth and insomnia and are probably my two top villas right now despite that though. i probably need to rethink thru my reads with dya and taffy dying but on a gut level that feels right

i also want to re-evaluate SK a bit before going fully down this path

yeah im waiting to see how he opens up and the way he sees things before i lock it in

[katze]

could you please post a current readslist

no lol

[katze]

like i dont want to be annoying but why the fuck is achro alive lol

[nebjiamn]

i think it's plausible you could be w/w with sk

you only started pushing him sod2, after his posts eod1 were godawful, and iirc there was a decently strong consensus that he was quite wolfy by that point

would i ever yeet you before sk? absolutely not, but i don't see why it's super improbable
a little unfair cuth

i pushed him all day yesterday. it was not at all consensus when i started pushing him. go look at SOD, i am the one who brings him up and then dya agreed with me which is partially why i felt good about dya

i only pushed him SOD2 but he had like 4 posts for most of day 1 that were ranging from good to OK and then i was gone for most of the last hour of EOD day 1. when else was I going to push him? its day 3 amigo

its not wild to pair me with him i guess cause ive been known to bus but idk. villa envy nerd

[Achro]

like i dont want to be annoying but why the fuck is achro alive lol

Damn fine I'll just go iso now lol

[Cuthillius]

like i dont want to be annoying but why the fuck is achro alive lol

because he's a villager who was repping a solve of visor/dya/benneh yesterday?

[katze]

Damn fine I'll just go iso now lol

i mean do your thing i just was 100% confident you'd be attacked

maybe cuth

why the fk is dya dead lmao

[Achro]

because he's a villager who was repping a solve of visor/dya/benneh yesterday?

i-in fairness one of those I was told was red checked ;.;

[katze]

alrighty well ill make the game easier or harder

im incredibly close to snapvoting achro and im a PR

glgl

[Achro]

alrighty well ill make the game easier or harder

im incredibly close to snapvoting achro and im a PR

glgl

well uh

gg then lol

[Cuthillius]

i mean do your thing i just was 100% confident you'd be attacked

maybe cuth

why the fk is dya dead lmao

benneh wasn't goin' hard on w!dya worlds yesterday~

[insomnia]

kekw

[Cuthillius]

oh~

[nebjiamn]

im on my way to a bbq and im gonna drink some tequila in dya and taffy and visor's honor (fu ender lolol)


(jk ily)

ill be back later tonight or may pop in occasionally depending how this thing goes

[Achro]

I wish you would ask me questions, but hey its just a game. I'm going to go read. Sorry I got so much wrong.

[insomnia]

i don't see what's so confusing about dya dying

there are 2 options in my head. there must be some bias to this cuz it's never 2 options

[katze]

ok maybe i wont throw the game but god i really really want to i really do think that that kill is baffling but im gonna sit down and think for a bit because there's probably someone whos blatantly outed off unpairings anyway

[insomnia]

im on my way to a bbq and im gonna drink some tequila in dya and taffy and visor's honor (fu ender lolol)


(jk ily)

ill be back later tonight or may pop in occasionally depending how this thing goes

really funny how the little coincidences fuck up a village

[nebjiamn]

alrighty well ill make the game easier or harder

im incredibly close to snapvoting achro and im a PR

glgl
reformed

[insomnia]

katze, the vanillager is claiming PR to remove all doubt on himself before snapvoting to win the duel

alignment to be determined in this masterplan