13er summer game thread

[Raskolnikov]

Thanks all for signing up. The game will start at 6PM EST sunday 30th of July.

Rules:


48/24 phases, at 6pm american eastern. :00 posts/votes are good, :01 posts/votes bad.
50 posts each day, postcap released one hour before deadline.
You may not talk after death.
Don't quote anything I say to you. Paraphrasing is fine.
No screenshots, etc.
You may NOT talk to players outside the thread unless otherwise specified in your role PM.
You will vote for players you want lynched during the day, using the format, Vote: Zack. Votes must be in bold to count. You do not need to unvote to vote someone else. I will count your last legal vote as your vote. You must use that specific vote format with the colon or the vote WILL NOT count. (this is so i can find the votes easier)
Subs are not allowed.
Do not talk at night.
Votes that end in a tie will be decided by random lynch.
No lynch is allowed as is abstain.
Don't edit posts please.
If you miss a day phase I will message you and see whats up. Missing two days is an instant modkill.
Have fun. This is not an option . If you don't think you'll have fun with this game... don't join it.
Night orders are due 1 hour prior to start of day. (Please use your discord channel.)




Players:

1. Visor
2. Totally not Taffy
3. Winston Hughes
4. Cuthillius
5. nebjiamn
6. SilverKeith
7. Cape90
8. dyachei
9. EnderWiggin
10. ladd
11. insomnia
12. Achro
13. katze


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Game has been randed, sending PMs shortly. Don't post before game start, tx!



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Links:

EOD1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847913&viewfull=1#post2053847913)
SOD2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847914&viewfull=1#post2053847914)
EOD2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053848816&viewfull=1#post2053848816)
SOD3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053848818&viewfull=1#post2053848818)
EOD3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053849128&viewfull=1#post2053849128)
SOD4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053849141&viewfull=1#post2053849141)
EOD4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053850105&viewfull=1#post2053850105)
SOD5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053850108&viewfull=1#post2053850108)

[Raskolnikov]

You may now post. EOD1 in 48 hours! Hf :bow:

[katze]

first

cya in 24 hours

[Cape90]

first

cya in 24 hours

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

[Cuthillius]

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

[Cape90]

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

[Cuthillius]

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

why on earth would i want that

[Visor]

Vote: Zack

[Achro]

Hello I don't know how to solve a game in 50 posts so I have decided to be an agent of (hopefully) town agenda chaos by suggesting we do this: pick a name. First come first serve, remove it from the list. Each user gets one. You cannot remove yourself. Last person is killed. We start day 2 with a day of social interactions. If this fails to kill a wolf I don't mind dying day 2 for suggesting this. Life is too short.

1. Visor
2. Totally not Taffy
3.Winston Hughes
4. Cuthillius
5. nebjiamn
6. SilverKeith
7. Cape90
9. EnderWiggin
10. ladd
11. insomnia
12. Achro
13. katze

I removed dya

[Cuthillius]

Hello I don't know how to solve a game in 50 posts so I have decided to be an agent of (hopefully) town agenda chaos by suggesting we do this: pick a name. First come first serve, remove it from the list. Each user gets one. You cannot remove yourself. Last person is killed. We start day 2 with a day of social interactions. If this fails to kill a wolf I don't mind dying day 2 for suggesting this. Life is too short.

1. Visor
2. Totally not Taffy
3.Winston Hughes
4. Cuthillius
5. nebjiamn
6. SilverKeith
7. Cape90
9. EnderWiggin
10. ladd
11. insomnia
12. Achro
13. katze

I removed dya

this is kinda villagery but i also think it would be really funny if yours was the last name on the list

[Achro]

this is kinda villagery but i also think it would be really funny if yours was the last name on the list

That in fact would be hilarious. I think I will be okay though

[Achro]

Of course you need not rush your decision. Socialize a bit. When you feel good about a pick take them off.

I removed dya because I feel I have a way to read them accurately where as most of this list I don't have the faintest clue. Except perhaps sk but I can't keep living off years ago success forever.

[Cape90]

I mean, it isn't that hard to solve a game with each player only having 50 posts IMO. But I don't think it's a bad idea either since we can at least talk it over.

[Achro]

I mean, it isn't that hard to solve a game with each player only having 50 posts IMO. But I don't think it's a bad idea either since we can at least talk it over.

Ah well in particular I am better when I have meta and practice with others or I think I have a strong feel for a person. Most of this list I don't play with too too often and is highly skilled. Perhaps it won't be rocket science though.

Most of all I think it's fun and a little intriguing. Mixes it up a bit. A truly chill experience.

[EnderWiggin]

Achro? Chill?

Obvious wolf.

=P

[Achro]

Achro? Chill?

Obvious wolf.

=P

Yeah yeah.

Nice to see you again, Ender.

[EnderWiggin]

Nice to see you too. As an anarchist, I will refuse to take a name off the list.

[Achro]

Fine by me. I will just take a second as is my right as it is my idea. Thank you for the thread control. Always appreciated.

[insomnia]

hullo

[insomnia]

whatever you do, don’t take benneh off the list

have fun otherwise

[Cuthillius]

vote: cape

[katze]

cuth is my only townread you are all wolfy

achros suggestion is bad but i'd take taffy off the list

[Cuthillius]

cuth is my only townread you are all wolfy

achros suggestion is bad but i'd take taffy off the list

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

[EnderWiggin]

Fine by me. I will just take a second as is my right as it is my idea. Thank you for the thread control. Always appreciated.

As an Anarchist I reserve my vote as my right and refuse to allow you to chose.


cuth is my only townread you are all wolfy

achros suggestion is bad but i'd take taffy off the list

Of course I'm wolfy. It's too cold for me to go without my fur right now.

[Cape90]

Do you wanna be in my pocket?

they already are it seems

[Cape90]

im just here to win the gym class always picked last club tbh

im really good at that

Bring it on

Never take me off the list

[Achro]

cuth is my only townread you are all wolfy

achros suggestion is bad but i'd take taffy off the list

Excellent participation.

1. Visor
3.Winston Hughes
4. Cuthillius
5. nebjiamn
6. SilverKeith
7. Cape90
9. EnderWiggin
10. ladd
11. insomnia
12. Achro
13. katze

Names Chosen: Achro, Katze
Declined: Ender

[Totally not Taffy]

cuth is my only townread you are all wolfy

achros suggestion is bad but i'd take taffy off the list

Can I be in your pocket?


I'll take Winston off the list. This does not constitute a promise to eliminate the person who's last, but I want to see where this goes.

[dyachei]

sup. I don't really wanna do the list thing. games are solvable in 50 posts or less, even on d1

[EnderWiggin]

Can I be in your pocket?


I'll take Winston off the list. This does not constitute a promise to eliminate the person who's last, but I want to see where this goes.

Can I be in your pocket?

[nebjiamn]

hola

[Achro]

sup. I don't really wanna do the list thing. games are solvable in 50 posts or less, even on d1

Hmm, alright.

I'll sheep you day one then, boss.

Solve away.

[Cuthillius]

Vote: Zack

damn this post made me half convinced zack was actually playing and it stuck in my brain and i had to check to make sure

sad

[ladd]

sap guis

kinda think achro v, not for the suggestion (which is silly cause you are genuinely never lunching a wolf with it since if it comes to it a wolf will just remove another wolf) but for how quickly he backed off from it


i also soul read cape opening v

cuth seemed fine too



cuth is my only townread you are all wolfy

achros suggestion is bad but i'd take taffy off the list

this post is a post



more exciting analysis to come

[EnderWiggin]

Hm.

Vote: Cuth

[Visor]

vote: taffy

:Curtain:

[Visor]

Vote: achro

for realsies

[Totally not Taffy]

Can I be in your pocket?

Idk, sounds dangerous, like having a fluffy funnelweb in my pocket :uneasy:

[Totally not Taffy]

Vote: achro

for realsies

For wanting to sheep Dyachei?

[Totally not Taffy]

For wanting to sheep Dyachei?

Last game (and I think that's his only game here?) Achro made 336 posts over 5 days, for an average of ~67, which is close enough to 50 not to have to panic at the thought of a 50 postcap, so yes, scumpoints deserved.

Vote: Achro

[EnderWiggin]

Idk, sounds dangerous, like having a fluffy funnelweb in my pocket :uneasy:

I am a cute fluffy funnel web.

[Totally not Taffy]

I am a cute fluffy funnel web.

:spider:

You have an opinion on Visor/Achro cutie?

[Cape90]

i also soul read cape opening v


ngl i was just listening to this song with those lyrics in it so i thought it would be funny to open with

[Cape90]

Last game (and I think that's his only game here?) Achro made 336 posts over 5 days, for an average of ~67, which is close enough to 50 not to have to panic at the thought of a 50 postcap, so yes, scumpoints deserved.

Vote: Achro

This isn't really wolfy though if you think about it, 50 posts is more then you think tbh, esp when u usually are a high poster volume wise.

Like they might think 50 posts is "nothing" when in reality, it does take time to eat through 50 posts IMO

[Cape90]

Excellent participation.

1. Visor
3.Winston Hughes
4. Cuthillius
5. nebjiamn
6. SilverKeith
7. Cape90
9. EnderWiggin
10. ladd
11. insomnia
12. Achro
13. katze

Names Chosen: Achro, Katze
Declined: Ender

I also fail to see this as backing off the idea Achro had ladd

[EnderWiggin]

:spider:

You have an opinion on Visor/Achro cutie?

Why Visor?

Achro is playing an Achro start. It could be wolfy but I think people are overstating its wolfiness.

[EnderWiggin]

Also half-tempted to slam a ladd vote down for ??? reasons.

[Visor]

Ender v

[EnderWiggin]

Ender v

Pocket successful.

[Totally not Taffy]

Why Visor?

Because Visor was the first to vote Achro. Do you think he was serious, or that he was just voting to see what would happen?




I also fail to see this as backing off the idea Achro had ladd

I think Ladd was talking about this exchange:



sup. I don't really wanna do the list thing. games are solvable in 50 posts or less, even on d1

Hmm, alright.

I'll sheep you day one then, boss.

Solve away.

Dyachei was only the second to decline to participate.

[ladd]

Also half-tempted to slam a ladd vote down for ??? reasons.

https://media.giphy.com/media/51Uiuy5QBZNkoF3b2Z/giphy.gif

[ladd]

taffy is probably just a villager

visor soul read v #2

cape pop in sadly not great


historically wolves tend not to make posts like this talking about me:


Also half-tempted to slam a ladd vote down for ??? reasons.


so i am gonna say ender is fine too for now

[Raskolnikov]

Achro(2): Visor, Taffy
Cuth(1): Ender
Not voting (10): Dyachei, ladd, cuth, insomnia, katze, Achro, Benneh, Silverkeith, Cape90, Winston

[katze]

this post is a post

idk how ladd does it i never would have thought of it like that

seems like u agreed with it tho given your reads up to that point so i shall take my locktown privilege and omegaslank until f3


cape pop in sadly not great

historically wolves tend not to make posts like this talking about me:




so i am gonna say ender is fine too for now

i find ladd relatively villagery thus far minus these lines which i dont find WOLFY just less believable


Last game (and I think that's his only game here?) Achro made 336 posts over 5 days, for an average of ~67, which is close enough to 50 not to have to panic at the thought of a 50 postcap, so yes, scumpoints deserved.

Vote: Achro

i approve of the vote but i dont rly think this means a ton

Vote: Achro :curtain:

[katze]

i soulread dyachei as a wolf

[nebjiamn]

Vote: katze

sorry for ur rand

[ladd]

idk how ladd does it i never would have thought of it like that

seems like u agreed with it tho given your reads up to that point so i shall take my locktown privilege and omegaslank until f3



it was 1 of my least favourite posts in my read through actually lol


but then when i had ready the post calling it wolfy, the feeling kinda waned and i didnt feel like it was particularly wolfy anymore i guess

that's how you got what you got, a story in 2 parts

[katze]

Vote: katze

sorry for ur rand

im actually quite happy with my rand you don't need to apologize nebjiamn

it was 1 of my least favourite posts in my read through actually lol


but then when i had ready the post calling it wolfy, the feeling kinda waned and i didnt feel like it was particularly wolfy anymore i guess

that's how you got what you got, a story in 2 parts
oh no now im gonna have to fight for hammer in f3

[ladd]

oh no now im gonna have to fight for hammer in f3

i think you are on the right track to be called a villager now tho

there is still hope

whats up with achro?

[katze]

i think you are on the right track to be called a villager now tho

there is still hope

whats up with achro?

honestly not that much i just wanted to vote him

if i wanted to overthink it i could probs call a few things hes done actively wolfy (and i might believe the lack of confidence is) but i think most of it falls under the "i believe this is probably NAI but it's just silly" tree

i guess typing this out i sorta get the "how do i solve a game with such a low postcap" thing because im used to games having a lot more by now so my hedgy ass doesnt actually have that much i concretely lean one direction or another on but that sounds more like a me problem than an achro problem

also he pocketed me in a game once so im legally obligated to vote him ldo

[dyachei]

Hmm, alright.

I'll sheep you day one then, boss.

Solve away.

:|


sap guis

kinda think achro v, not for the suggestion (which is silly cause you are genuinely never lunching a wolf with it since if it comes to it a wolf will just remove another wolf) but for how quickly he backed off from it


i also soul read cape opening v

cuth seemed fine too




this post is a post



more exciting analysis to come

I think achro's suggestion might be v from him but it's too easy to manipulate as a wolf. I dont like it for that reason. I do think achro kind of villagery because the try-hardiness is less than the last game where he was a wolf though


i soulread dyachei as a wolf

of course you do. It's been 1 post and you're not usually right

[insomnia]

ender seems fine. think i remember him dying early as a wolf and in here he's playing into being a wolf where he'd probably be self-conscious about wolfing for the nth time

if this reason is wrong, then consider it a t0an read

[Achro]

Last game (and I think that's his only game here?) Achro made 336 posts over 5 days, for an average of ~67, which is close enough to 50 not to have to panic at the thought of a 50 postcap, so yes, scumpoints deserved.

Vote: Achro

I was a wolf and swept a town that had 5 of these players in it.

Please point to the part where my world view is inconsistent.

[Achro]

I was a wolf and swept a town that had 5 of these players in it.

Please point to the part where my world view is inconsistent.

Also I believe day 5 was a hammer day and I didn't post.

[Achro]

Because Visor was the first to vote Achro. Do you think he was serious, or that he was just voting to see what would happen?





I think Ladd was talking about this exchange:



Dyachei was only the second to decline to participate.

Third I think if I count insomnia

Plus I said I think I can read them. So if they don't want to play my fun game I will mason them. I have had great success on fol either town reading or killing my masons day 1 its a pretty neat trick. 5/5 I believe.

I of course am not going to be an idle sheep, but merely living in day's world view and making myself comfy. Also a bit glib because that's fun.

Anyway luckily for me I think I am excellent at knowing who wolfreads me is town or not because my self awareness is dumb. Taffy feels genuine.

Visor and katze please show your work to the class

[Achro]

honestly not that much i just wanted to vote him

if i wanted to overthink it i could probs call a few things hes done actively wolfy (and i might believe the lack of confidence is) but i think most of it falls under the "i believe this is probably NAI but it's just silly" tree

i guess typing this out i sorta get the "how do i solve a game with such a low postcap" thing because im used to games having a lot more by now so my hedgy ass doesnt actually have that much i concretely lean one direction or another on but that sounds more like a me problem than an achro problem

also he pocketed me in a game once so im legally obligated to vote him ldo

Oh I see. This is nai I think for Kat's range as both alignments so nothing much to say about that one.

Hello visor you have shown no problem sussing me early as wolf to get me to think you are being genuine. What's up

[Achro]

sap guis

kinda think achro v, not for the suggestion (which is silly cause you are genuinely never lunching a wolf with it since if it comes to it a wolf will just remove another wolf) but for how quickly he backed off from it


i also soul read cape opening v

cuth seemed fine too




this post is a post



more exciting analysis to come

Good morning ladd. I think this is my first time playing with you when I am town in an fm game (that I can remember, i kind of tried to skirt around you as wolf and then n1'd you lol) and I have a question for you. Why do you think backing off the idea is town indicative? Is it town for achro or just a general town thing to do? I would like a nice detailed thought on this because I feel as if this defense is a little unnatural as the last time I swept the game as wolf and to my knowledge you shouldn't have too much prior experience with me compared to say ender.

If you get the same answer I came up with in my head you are probably town would be cool ngl

[insomnia]

ender
taffy
insomnia

ladd

[ladd]

Good morning ladd. I think this is my first time playing with you when I am town in an fm game (that I can remember, i kind of tried to skirt around you as wolf and then n1'd you lol) and I have a question for you. Why do you think backing off the idea is town indicative? Is it town for achro or just a general town thing to do? I would like a nice detailed thought on this because I feel as if this defense is a little unnatural as the last time I swept the game as wolf and to my knowledge you shouldn't have too much prior experience with me compared to say ender.



i think i'd have prooobably called it villagery regardess, but my impression of you is someone who tries to control the thread (i have never seen you wolf, but i assume this is just a personality thing and not ai dependent) so i figure if you did the little act with the list as a wolf to be called villagery by people you'd have tried to keep it up at least some more to get discussion on that


and the way you pivoted from the list stuff to sheeping dya felt pure and not something predetermined nor made with malicious intentions, i'd have villa read that from ~anyone

[katze]

for the sanity of all dyacheis involved i am choosing to clarify my prior soulread was a shitpost

however if it was correct i will pretend this post was the shitpost

in the meantime tho, sup dya hru
sup insom
hi achro

i feel like insom randed villa and achro randed wolf just based off the last few posts adieu (i will probably not read dya d1 unless i have a strong feeling in one direction)

also this is post 69 nice

[katze]

nevermind i hate ladd now for stealing my funny number

[insomnia]

im good, driving school is a thing for me now

i hate turns, i thought i had good spatial awareness, this whole driving thing humbled me

[Achro]

for the sanity of all dyacheis involved i am choosing to clarify my prior soulread was a shitpost

however if it was correct i will pretend this post was the shitpost

in the meantime tho, sup dya hru
sup insom
hi achro

i feel like insom randed villa and achro randed wolf just based off the last few posts adieu (i will probably not read dya d1 unless i have a strong feeling in one direction)

also this is post 69 nice

Ngl hope you are town to complete the trilogy with 'katze has no idea how to read achro' before we have fun as w/w in the finale of our 4 combo of Rands games.

I don't know insomnia very well but thought he was townie without any other note so I will sheep you since you prob know him and I don't think you woukd be 0/2 in reads.

Although you are you so I guess I should ask what about my posts are from a wolf achro mindset iyo

[ladd]

i feel like insom randed villa and achro randed wolf just based off the last few posts adieu (i will probably not read dya d1 unless i have a strong feeling in one direction)



thats fun, they actually convinced me achro is a villager

feels like a villager who is literally just writing words and pressing enter



i have def already called a wolf villagery tho so for the sake of STATS i shall clarify that most of the reads (except taffy/achro p much) i posted until now are super thin and made to somewhat kickstart the game

[insomnia]

Ngl hope you are town to complete the trilogy with 'katze has no idea how to read achro' before we have fun as w/w in the finale of our 4 combo of Rands games.

I don't know insomnia very well but thought he was townie without any other note so I will sheep you since you prob know him and I don't think you woukd be 0/2 in reads.

Although you are you so I guess I should ask what about my posts are from a wolf achro mindset iyo

my 2 starting posts must've been really villagery

[dyachei]

insom is a super light v read for me because he's reminding me of his anni attitude

[Achro]

i think i'd have prooobably called it villagery regardess, but my impression of you is someone who tries to control the thread (i have never seen you wolf, but i assume this is just a personality thing and not ai dependent) so i figure if you did the little act with the list as a wolf to be called villagery by people you'd have tried to keep it up at least some more to get discussion on that


and the way you pivoted from the list stuff to sheeping dya felt pure and not something predetermined nor made with malicious intentions, i'd have villa read that from ~anyone

Oh yeah I forgot you never even read my posts last day 1 when I was a wolf lol. You did say that. Pretty funny.

Anyway hmm. I do like thread control and how I handled this is probably nai for me since my range on opening posts is very wide but I concede it would be unusual for me as a wolf to say I would sheep dya so casually true true.

Good logic but I have a feeling good logic is nai for you given the stories I hear about you. I was hoping that the reason had more specifics in it to really grab onto. I will let others interact with you to see how I feel about you, you are a tough one. I found you in Anni though by comparing your wolf mash performance so maybe I will read a couple of games of yours to see if this is indicative.

Thanks for responding. Much obliged.

[katze]

im good, driving school is a thing for me now

i hate turns, i thought i had good spatial awareness, this whole driving thing humbled me

driving humbled me and then turned me even more egotistical because everybody who drives here sucks at driving and now i hate driving

glgl


Ngl hope you are town to complete the trilogy with 'katze has no idea how to read achro' before we have fun as w/w in the finale of our 4 combo of Rands games.

I don't know insomnia very well but thought he was townie without any other note so I will sheep you since you prob know him and I don't think you woukd be 0/2 in reads.

Although you are you so I guess I should ask what about my posts are from a wolf achro mindset iyo

i wouldn't really feel bad misreading you on post 70 of a game tbh; i currently dislike your vibes, not really something i can go into much detail on if i wanted to and i don't particularly want to anyways

what's stopping me from being a wolf and going 0/2 on purpose i don't actually follow sheeping me on insomnia because im wrong on you iyo?

[Achro]

my 2 starting posts must've been really villagery

I liked the TONE of the ender read and any man who starts the game with a town list is after my heart, yet.

[ladd]

Oh yeah I forgot you never even read my posts last day 1 when I was a wolf lol. You did say that. Pretty funny.

Anyway hmm. I do like thread control and how I handled this is probably nai for me since my range on opening posts is very wide but I concede it would be unusual for me as a wolf to say I would sheep dya so casually true true.

Good logic but I have a feeling good logic is nai for you given the stories I hear about you. I was hoping that the reason had more specifics in it to really grab onto. I will let others interact with you to see how I feel about you, you are a tough one. I found you in Anni though by comparing your wolf mash performance so maybe I will read a couple of games of yours to see if this is indicative.

Thanks for responding. Much obliged.

those stories are old and exaggerated

now i am lazy, mostly busy and 1 step from retirement



you are prob better off just reading me based on my posting this game. i think i am pretty readable if you don't come in with EXPECTATIONS and things like that

[Achro]

driving humbled me and then turned me even more egotistical because everybody who drives here sucks at driving and now i hate driving

glgl



i wouldn't really feel bad misreading you on post 70 of a game tbh; i currently dislike your vibes, not really something i can go into much detail on if i wanted to and i don't particularly want to anyways

what's stopping me from being a wolf and going 0/2 on purpose i don't actually follow sheeping me on insomnia because im wrong on you iyo?

Oh no, never feel bad snout misreading me I just would be tickled because I adore you and teasing you is half the fun.

Anyway my image of wolf Kat is a lot like scum chris in that you would rather be in an endless mafia tunnel by zorvo than have one of your opening town reads be on your partner in a game where prs can potentially ruin your day.

Don't lnoa if this is true, but seems like the type of thing you would care about. Wolf kat imo is always 1/2 there as a matter of sneakiness. Because not many people even think about that stuff so you would never have to change it up. Could be wrong I guess.

[insomnia]

Vote: katze

[Achro]

Also one post saying sorry for any dumb phone typos this game.

[Achro]

I don't think I am going to re evaluate Taffy until lylo at the minimum tbh.

Because it takes a type of wolf to not only go through my last game here to calculate my posts, but then to not even stop to consider what my rand was in that game and how it had nothing to do with solving. It feels like the essence of 'hah, I caught you in your LIES wolf'

Although I will confess even though I don't know how to solve with a mere 50 posts what I left unsaid is that I am willing to learn. My opening as per tradition didn't really matter it was just another way to avoid the drivel that is rvs and get people into the swing of things.

Thread control is a common way of discussing how people interact with the thread. I don't really need control lthough as long as I set the pace of things and wolves are dancing ro my beat. Which they are for now. Who knows if I will catch one, but the thread seems fun to me.

Anyway

Taffy
Insomnia
Ender
Dya

Towny to kinda towny

Still processing please hold
Katze

A little tiny bit wolfy
Ladd
Visor

(I think puffing out your wolf game is slightly towny. Downplaying slightly wolfy. Visor has shown he doesn't mind suspecting me early as wolf so I know this fits his wolf profile so I need positive answers for why he voted for me rather than assuming the best in people like I often do since it's math accurate)

[Achro]

Also I am kind of convinced I can't read cape so I will quietly see what I think eod and then call him the opposite alignment. Good day.

[ladd]

A little tiny bit wolfy
Ladd


https://media.giphy.com/media/MOYe7MJl2qYDCQSqbO/giphy.gif

[katze]

Vote: katze

godread rescinded(yet again)

achro i think ur impression on how i wolf is outdated and zorvo is a bad example because i would do many things for players like him to not tunnel me, town or mafia (i find being deathtunneled like that to be one of the least fun things in mafia)

btw im super polarized btw. cant wolf for shit (real)

[Achro]

godread rescinded(yet again)

achro i think ur impression on how i wolf is outdated and zorvo is a bad example because i would do many things for players like him to not tunnel me, town or mafia (i find being deathtunneled like that to be one of the least fun things in mafia)

btw im super polarized btw. cant wolf for shit (real)

I meant the zorvo part as a joke.

Also I don't listen to great wolf players telling me how I get their philosophy wrong sorry. Company policy.

Murder a wolf and be killed n1. It's how I solve paranoia about me on gamefaqs and fol tbh tbh

[dyachei]

godread rescinded(yet again)

achro i think ur impression on how i wolf is outdated and zorvo is a bad example because i would do many things for players like him to not tunnel me, town or mafia (i find being deathtunneled like that to be one of the least fun things in mafia)

btw im super polarized btw. cant wolf for shit (real)

i dont really agree with this last line at all

[katze]

id be very surprised if i got n1ed this game

but its the goal ofc

i will be me

ignoring any mention of you in his iso, what are your concerns with ladd, if any? same question could apply to me i guess but i dont really want to be self centered this game ??

[katze]

i dont really agree with this last line at all

it's like 95% satirical so that's probably good :P

(im only replying because i forget that emojis break on this site the two question marks in my last post is a joycat)

[Achro]

id be very surprised if i got n1ed this game

but its the goal ofc

i will be me

ignoring any mention of you in his iso, what are your concerns with ladd, if any? same question could apply to me i guess but i dont really want to be self centered this game ??

Do you mean besides the one reason that had nothing to do with me for why I found ladd slightly wolfy? I even spelled it out. Why ask me this specifically when I already named a reason, ie downplaying wolf play and setting expectations low. I didn't treat you the same because I know you have a bit of a running gag.

As for you, I don't believe I have any concerns atm. Just a curiosity to see how you play and interact with others.

[Achro]

To be fair I checked and I didn't say his name in the sentence. I was talking about lads about downplaying wolf play being slightly wolfy and then moved onto my visor note.

So that was pretty easy to miss. My bad

[katze]

o yea thats kinda obvious in hindsight but i didnt process it on a glance

gotcha

i was gonna sit on it a while but this games slow, i think i might have a townping from dya (i dont think them missing obvious jokes is wolfy even tho i squinted at it for a second)

and maybe visor too (ur not allowed to make vocab reads on me anymore bro im gonna get snowed so hard by marmot this game)

both of these are for dumb reasons

i may or may not be further confirmation biasing myself into cape and achro being wolves together as well

sips coffee

[ladd]

i was gonna sit on it a while but this games slow, i think i might have a townping from dya (i dont think them missing obvious jokes is wolfy even tho i squinted at it for a second)


which one?

[katze]

which one?

i thought the way they replied to ur read on achro was kinda villagery for them

specifically because its them replying to you (in my soul it feels like they dont know your alignment and they expect you two to solve eachother off that post) and it kinda felt like the kind of "i agree but for different reasons" thing that i feel like i think as a villager more than as a wolf (weaker read tho)

[Cuthillius]

i think i've forgotten how to play werewolf

i wanted to snapvote ladd for his first (?) post last night but i don't want to do that any more

katze is, as ever, too self-aware for their own good

achro calling rvs "drivel" made me guffaw a little in a good way

i feel like the thread is moving a particular way around achro but i haven't quite put a pin on it yet

but i do think there's something there

[ladd]

i thought the way they replied to ur read on achro was kinda villagery for them

specifically because its them replying to you (in my soul it feels like they dont know your alignment and they expect you two to solve eachother off that post) and it kinda felt like the kind of "i agree but for different reasons" thing that i feel like i think as a villager more than as a wolf (weaker read tho)

Alrighty thx


I re skimmed cape iso and i have a feeling we ll end up lunching him :curtain:

Maybe rightfully so

[ladd]

i think i've forgotten how to play werewolf

i wanted to snapvote ladd

it adds up


:curtain:



Achro do you have like no read on my other posts? feels weird that your full read on me is based on such a little thing like downplaying my game when i am prob the player who has posted most content besides you




katze anything in particular made you link achro and cape?

[ladd]

i am weirdly confident cuth is a villager


cape has the most votable ISO so i am gonna vote him

vote: cape


https://media.giphy.com/media/jPAdK8Nfzzwt2/giphy.gif

[Cuthillius]

i may or may not be further confirmation biasing myself into cape and achro being wolves together as well

what % satirical is this?

[Achro]

it adds up


:curtain:



Achro do you have like no read on my other posts? feels weird that your full read on me is based on such a little thing like downplaying my game when i am prob the player who has posted most content besides you




katze anything in particular made you link achro and cape?

I have no idea how you play as either alignment so I am taking a cautious approach in assigning alignment intentions from other posts. ladd you are free to quote posts or stances you feel I SHOULD have a take on and I will give one but without much confidence. I can read into everything, but it isn't always the best course to do so early with skilled players.

Cape huh for a wolf buddy. Tbh I would probably just hard bus him for the cred instead of being cute about not being able to read him. Maybe not though.

Cuth I will town lean on tone. Something about their observation on the thread state around me felt both true and genuine. Are they a skilled wolf?

I will say ladd we seem to have a few town reads in agreement so far so I am comfortable living in your world view atm and seeing if day 1 reinforces it as correct or makes it less so. A thing I like to do at times is just float on the sea and see what people do and if my day 1 assumptions feel good or not day 2.

So I will switch it up from the generic boring mildly wolfy read about wolf commentary to a light town lean since we maybe mindmelded a bit on cute

Lead the way.

[insomnia]

godread rescinded(yet again)

achro i think ur impression on how i wolf is outdated and zorvo is a bad example because i would do many things for players like him to not tunnel me, town or mafia (i find being deathtunneled like that to be one of the least fun things in mafia)

btw im super polarized btw. cant wolf for shit (real)

didn't claim godread or anything with my vote

[insomnia]

cape does seem like the boring, maybe correct vote

his re-entrance was pretty commentary-ish

gonna wait for the no posters to pop in and some other slots to post more before i say anything about wolves

[nebjiamn]

Tbh I would probably just hard bus him for the cred instead of being cute about not being able to read him

:stare:

(not quite the right emoji but close enuff but just a super weird comment in context)

[Achro]

[/COLOR]:stare:

(not quite the right emoji but close enuff but just a super weird comment in context)

Not an achro game if I don't make super weird comments as either alignment tbh

And if anyone denies this you can kill them for the crime of being wrong in a mafia game. Have we played together before?

[Cuthillius]

vote:katze

[nebjiamn]

i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp

ladd my strongest tr. i kinda wanted to yolo visor v earlier but now it seems a bit blaze to do but i'll prob just ride it anyway.

katze seems better but i'm going to keep voting them so i don't look silly when they flip w

cuth seems good too

[nebjiamn]

Not an achro game if I don't make super weird comments as either alignment tbh

And if anyone denies this you can kill them for the crime of being wrong in a mafia game. Have we played together before?

maybe its cause i don't have a developed cape read but it just reads super weird to me to say you'd bus someone with such ... confidence ? when we're 100 posts into the game and lots people are sitting at or under 10

and i don't think so, other than maybe in a mash

[Cuthillius]

i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp

ladd my strongest tr. i kinda wanted to yolo visor v earlier but now it seems a bit blaze to do but i'll prob just ride it anyway.

katze seems better but i'm going to keep voting them so i don't look silly when they flip w

cuth seems good too

my best case on cape is that they were shitposting with me and then they just didn't respond at all when i responded a little acerbically and a part of me ~strongly feels that that could be a nervous wolf thing to do lol because you're scared to answer weirdly and get my attention but it's rvs so you can get away with not engaging

but i don't love how people are treating the slot otherwise so i've been cooling on that recently

[Achro]

maybe its cause i don't have a developed cape read but it just reads super weird to me to say you'd bus someone with such ... confidence ? when we're 100 posts into the game and lots people are sitting at or under 10

and i don't think so, other than maybe in a mash

Ah.

As for the comment it the context is in a game we played together where he was wolf killed day 1 and I was town who hard defended him until the very last second when litten convinced me to sheep.

It was about lore more than this game.

[ladd]

i don't get the cape... resignment? seems ~fine and basically a guess atp



you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

[Winston Hughes]

Hardclaim: Broader Than Broadway

~;p

[katze]

i am envious of bennehs ability to be such an obvious villager, one day i will be a villager just like him!


katze is, as ever, too self-aware for their own good

well i'd never


what % satirical is this?

98.7%

i just wanted to be quirky and see if it'd do anything because cape is/was obviously the player who is posting the least "good" (this isnt a comment on his alignment) and achro is my pet scumread that im taking on a walk


didn't claim godread or anything with my vote

ur mom

do i need to use tone indicators this game (genuine question i feel like a lot of my sarcasm is not being picked up on already)

[Visor]

you made me google resignment

anyway, i agree its not like cape has done anything egregiously wolfy but his iso is mostly commentary and repeating the same stuff and while i didnt mind it that much live, re reading it in ISO does feel a bit struggly to me

achro is the next suspect afaict but i still dont really see it? like i could def see the wolf case on him if i squint a bit but the case for him being a villager seems much more straightforward to me shrug.jpg

Too many words

Wolfy

:Curtain:

[nebjiamn]

do i need to use tone indicators this game (genuine question i feel like a lot of my sarcasm is not being picked up on already)
what % satirical is this?

[Achro]

katze

You had a front row seat as towm before to the living hell thT is wolf achro's mind. What about my posts so far indicate to you that this is wolf indicative for me? Please be as specific as possible.

[Visor]

Cape votes seem ok to me

Just based on his initial posting

[katze]

katze

You had a front row seat as towm before to the living hell thT is wolf achro's mind. What about my posts so far indicate to you that this is wolf indicative for me? Please be as specific as possible.

i am choosing to not answer this

any inconveniences this may cause you may be forwarded to visor

[Achro]

i am choosing to not answer this

any inconveniences this may cause you may be forwarded to visor

Hmm.

Are you sure? Final answer?

[katze]

Cape votes seem ok to me

Just based on his initial posting
Visor if cape were to reveal as an innocent child what would your preferred vote be?


Hmm.

Are you sure? Final answer?

yep

[Achro]

Okay lets dome then.

Vote: katze

This to my sense feels like how wolf katze thinks town achro thinks town katze thinks like.

Let's find out.

Yeehaw and such.

[katze]

nah

not interested

have a nice day

[Visor]

Visor if cape were to reveal as an innocent child what would your preferred vote be?



yep

Cape

[katze]

thrilling developments in the 13er summer game thread tonight

[Achro]

Yeah.

Didn't think you'd like that much.

Cool day 1 ez reads. Kill katze if I am wrong you can kill me d2. Such is life of a man who puts everything on the line.

[Visor]

vote: cape

I don't think anyone else really stands out

Dyas posting hasn't kicked on but I'm fine with that for now

Cuth seems okay for now

Nothing really moving the needle re ladd or benneh

[katze]

i'm just going to mentally ignore any posts of yours that are along the lines of "we are thunderdoming on day 1, katze" and carry on with my day

i could go on about how i believe plays like this are just bad for the game health but i'm just going to solve around it instead

if it makes you feel better i do find it hard to believe that you as a villager thinks that this is how i would respond as a wolf, but i'm not weighing that very much into my read on you

[Visor]

insom is a super light v read for me because he's reminding me of his anni attitude

I thought this post was a little iffy, mostly through phrasing, I have a light town read on insom

[Visor]

Achro/dya/cape wilves GG :curtain:

[Achro]

Okay read over cape and his posting seemed a bit directionless but otherwise fine. Which according to my history means he is scum so carry on.

[katze]

Okay read over cape and his posting seemed a bit directionless but otherwise fine. Which according to my history means he is scum so carry on.

what in his ISO would you define as "otherwise fine"?

[Achro]

i'm just going to mentally ignore any posts of yours that are along the lines of "we are thunderdoming on day 1, katze" and carry on with my day

i could go on about how i believe plays like this are just bad for the game health but i'm just going to solve around it instead

if it makes you feel better i do find it hard to believe that you as a villager thinks that this is how i would respond as a wolf, but i'm not weighing that very much into my read on you

I am sorry but if you are going to vote me and then proceed to shade me for several posts and when I ask you to explain your read you say 'no thanks and sorry how this impacts you' then you don't exactly vst to soap box about thread health. If you are unconcerned about how things impact me then I will in turn reinvest that attitude into you. But worse. Because while I am chiller these days and want a fun game for everyone I am not going to sit here and be shaded while I don't understand your perspective with a smile 'golly gee katze I guess that's fine'

If you think I am scum as town then you are wrong, which is chill but you make yourself unfindable and considering you keep mentioning I am scum every other post I find it very relevant to understanding your alignment why it is you do so.

You may of course ignore me if you like. You have no obligation to participate and I don't need it in order to get votes on you. Hopefully someone agrees that 'teehee won't say' isn't conductive to solving anything.

And if not hey, that's life.

But don't preach to me about game health. How sanctimonious can you be.

[Achro]

what in his ISO would you define as "otherwise fine"?

He was just pointing out things here and there and it felt nai for so early into a low volume game. If he is scum and you want to link me to him have fun I guess.

[insomnia]

I thought this post was a little iffy, mostly through phrasing, I have a light town read on insom

ye ngl, didn’t really get it

feels odd to reference anni and not just a general read there. particularly because idk what was different in anni, and if there was something different, then im pretty sure i didn’t open the same way in here

[Cape90]

I just didn't have a lot of thoughts on anyone's postings besides Achro is obvious town, which he mostly continues to be.

Conflicted on katze, i soulread 60 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847169&viewfull=1#post2053847169) as wolfy. It conflicts a read I have later though and I ain't sure what the person I think is REALLY sus was getting at with katze. If I have a lot of commentary in my posts what does that make katze? That's a question I want to pose. Like I think the one that really broke that mold for me was 94 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847203&viewfull=1#post2053847203) and TBF I do sort of townread it just because I usually do that with the whole notion of townreading people for silly reasons thing, which I know in of itself is silly.

In terms of quick reads ladd and EnderWiggin both strike me as town as of right now.

I dont have much time vote:nebjiamn hi ur wolfy. Obviously, ur logs arent good. Ur treatment of my wagon starting up is too kid glovey

Uh i have other reads but i gtg lol

[Achro]

I just didn't have a lot of thoughts on anyone's postings besides Achro is obvious town, which he mostly continues to be.

Conflicted on katze, i soulread 60 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847169&viewfull=1#post2053847169) as wolfy. It conflicts a read I have later though and I ain't sure what the person I think is REALLY sus was getting at with katze. If I have a lot of commentary in my posts what does that make katze? That's a question I want to pose. Like I think the one that really broke that mold for me was 94 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154878-13er-summer-game-thread?p=2053847203&viewfull=1#post2053847203) and TBF I do sort of townread it just because I usually do that with the whole notion of townreading people for silly reasons thing, which I know in of itself is silly.

In terms of quick reads ladd and EnderWiggin both strike me as town as of right now.

I dont have much time vote:nebjiamn hi ur wolfy. Obviously, ur logs arent good. Ur treatment of my wagon starting up is too kid glovey

Uh i have other reads but i gtg lol

The last time town Cape called me obvious town I was a wolf who swept him. What's different here compared to that game iyo?

[Cuthillius]

vote:visor

i gotta say achro i'm digging the juxtaposition of your disliking rvs and wanting to get to deeper more analytical content with your randomly trying to thunderdome people based on not super substantive interactions

i feel like you'd probably get better results if you increased the level of uncertainty coefficient in the equation, so to speak

[katze]

hi achromatic i don't really want to respond to your post but i feel like it is genuinely kind of mean not to because my play is clearly bothering you; which i do apologize for. i feel like you are reading my posts tonally like im some anime villain doing evil smiles or something when i really am just like... not? i'd describe my investment in this game as pretty minimal and my feelings towards it as very neutral.


I am sorry but if you are going to vote me and then proceed to shade me for several posts and when I ask you to explain your read you say 'no thanks and sorry how this impacts you' then you don't exactly vst to soap box about thread health.

i voted you before i even actively scumread you

regardless of alignment you are massively overblowing my "shade" on you, lol. it's not even halfway thru d1, i've made it pretty clear that my read on you isn't a strong nor substantiated read

and... i guess it is a bit hypocritical for me to full on ignore you and then complain about your actions leading to an unhealthier thread state. so sorry about that. but also i'm still not answering those posts and think that you deciding to thunderdome someone and kingmake yourself halfway thru d1 is way more disruptive to the flow of the game than me not explaining a read lol. even if i had you as 100% lock i would be entirely uninterested in doming you today.


If you are unconcerned about how things impact me then I will in turn reinvest that attitude into you. But worse. Because while I am chiller these days and want a fun game for everyone I am not going to sit here and be shaded while I don't understand your perspective with a smile 'golly gee katze I guess that's fine'

im not unconcerned with how things impact you i am uninterested in explaining my read on you and added a mildly humorous joke that i guess did not land so again sorry about that but also lol

you're free to invest that attitude onto me though i'm probably just going to ignore it and shrug it off


but you make yourself unfindable and considering you keep mentioning I am scum every other post I find it very relevant to understanding your alignment why it is you do so.

i am not making myself unfindable, i am playing the game. i think i am very findable in every game i play and me not explaining one read to you is not going to be the difference between finding me and not finding me bar very specific situations which i am very confident this is not



i wouldn't really feel bad misreading you on post 70 of a game tbh; i currently dislike your vibes, not really something i can go into much detail on if i wanted to and i don't particularly want to anyways


honestly not that much i just wanted to vote him

if i wanted to overthink it i could probs call a few things hes done actively wolfy (and i might believe the lack of confidence is) but i think most of it falls under the "i believe this is probably NAI but it's just silly" tree

i guess typing this out i sorta get the "how do i solve a game with such a low postcap" thing because im used to games having a lot more by now so my hedgy ass doesnt actually have that much i concretely lean one direction or another on but that sounds more like a me problem than an achro problem

also he pocketed me in a game once so im legally obligated to vote him ldo



You may of course ignore me if you like. You have no obligation to participate and I don't need it in order to get votes on you. Hopefully someone agrees that 'teehee won't say' isn't conductive to solving anything.

And if not hey, that's life.

ok


But don't preach to me about game health. How sanctimonious can you be.

i don't think im being sanctimonious, possible i am wrong about that, i did not want to get into a pointless back and forth with you about my read on you because i knew it would go nowhere and warp the thread around us in a way i was uninterested in

which in a twisted fate of irony is exactly what happened in my attempts to not have it happen

life is cruel

[insomnia]

cuth seems to lack self-awareness, feels pretty chill


^ unrelated to his last post, i was skimming back to some posts and saw some of his thoughts

[Cuthillius]

katze thoughts on visor/insomnia/ladd?

[katze]

katze thoughts on visor/insomnia/ladd?

they're probably all villagers

ladd is probs my 2nd strongest townread behind benneh rn, visor and insom are both posting fine

[Achro]

This is post 36, so I am going to cool it overall for the rest of monday and pick back up on things tomorrow, considering I am about 25% of the posts there's a lot of things for the less active people to chew on and discuss that I could hopefully read them on.

Anyway in general, as a matter of mafia philosophy, I think town loses most when they don't see each other very well which is why I like building town cores with focused scum hunting here and there. I find katze's response to me antithetical to that, and it could come from either alignment but it is for sure in her wolf range which is exceedingly large.

If Katze is town, with how good she is as scum, I want more assurance that she is being genuine and has real time thoughts about things that make sense and can be tracked. Her lack of commitment to this is problematic to me because while others were glad to answer my questions, she chose to not do so. It doesn't make her scum, but it does make them unhelpful to my process and I want to put a spotlight on it so others can examine the interactions and how we each approached the other to make up their own minds on our alignments.

I don' really need to reinforce a thunderdome, much less with 14 posts the next 24 hours, I got my answer from the answer katze gave me that they weren't going to be helpful to me at this point so I won't bother further. If others see me as a problem, well at least let me defend myself tomorrow, and if they don't see katze is a problem then I'd love pings to check out your scum case on someone. I actually think Cape is townleaning now based on something I remember from a few games we had played with each other, and I guess I won't try the reverse psychology trick of doubting myself because it sounds kind of lame to do that.

But I think he overplays his paranoia of me as scum, basically. I asked my questioned but then remembered in FAM3 over on FOL he actually thought I was quite villagery early on but in SMAS all stars on MU he was wary, something I liked about him. But I honestly can't read this man for shit so far so I don't know.

Anyway let's see, 12 players 3 scum.


Taffy TOP TOWN for GOATed vote and reasoning on voting me, if flawed
Cuth tonally town
Insomnia tonally town.
Ladd towny for melding with me on Cuth a bit.
Dya townlean for responses to me
I will even throw in cape as a wild card town lean just to be made fun of later. Least surprised person ever if this flips wolf tbh

Anyway so my current POE based off early feelings/lack there of:

Ender (He did something early I liked, but it has gone away now)
Nebjamm
Winston
Visor
Katze

As is TRADITION with me, if I don't have 1 scum in my town leans day 1 my name's not Achro, but that's generally where I am at now.

Later.

[katze]

nobody tell him that was post 35 not post 36

vote: dyachei

[Cuthillius]

they're probably all villagers

ladd is probs my 2nd strongest townread behind benneh rn, visor and insom are both posting fine

ok but could you write more words

[Cuthillius]

or just explain your ladd reasoning more and then talk about the dya vote

your call

ebay

[nebjiamn]

they're probably all villagers

ladd is probs my 2nd strongest townread behind benneh rn, visor and insom are both posting fine
what on gods green earth

i thought u were meming about me

[katze]

ok but could you write more words

i am extremely tempted to say no just because i think it'd be kinda funny after that argument with achro

but i also honestly am not sure what to say like

do people have extensive reasoning for day 1 reads am i missing out on something?

visor seems fine from my experience with him and i thought him replying cape to my "what if cape was an IC" question was funny
insom also feels fine

i prob wouldnt vote either of them day 1 as of now and thats good enough for me

ladd i feel like is kind of obviously viewing the game from an uninformed lens

im not going to get into some "oh he has a good wolf game" fear because if he's a wolf i expect it to be findable by posts he hasn't made yet anyway

if i were to die i would probably not request any of these reads be sheeped because i think all three of these players are going to be hard to catch on day 1 except maybe insomnia

[katze]

or just explain your ladd reasoning more and then talk about the dya vote

your call

ebay

ebay

dya vote is mostly me not being interested in voting achro anymore, voting cape at all, and kinda :hmmyes:ing at the people mentioning their name in a negative way


what on gods green earth

i thought u were meming about me

lol

ur polarized kid

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/969347865057038337.gif

[nebjiamn]

i'd ask both of you to remember this is a chill game but im only gona say it once and then just ignore any posts with more than 100 words

not that i'm blaming either of you but just meh

[Achro]

vote:visor

i gotta say achro i'm digging the juxtaposition of your disliking rvs and wanting to get to deeper more analytical content with your randomly trying to thunderdome people based on not super substantive interactions

i feel like you'd probably get better results if you increased the level of uncertainty coefficient in the equation, so to speak

Now this is 36.

Day 1s for me as town have always been about experimentation. I find mafia to be an interesting but repetitive exercise as town, and throwing a bit of ingenuity at a problem creates room for new solving opportunities.

I did admit after all I didn't know what I was going to do with only 50 posts to solve, but here's trying eh?

Plus it's best to assume as town everything I do has about 2-3 hidden motives and ideas behind it. I'm much more methodical than one might assume if they only read my bluster casually. At least, that's what I tell myself.

Apology accepted by the way, katze. Have fun wolfing the thread regardless of your alignment. But here's a free one: The call to thunderdome was a reaction test, I was just seeing what you would do and your answer reminded me a little bit of end game wolf katze in poke mash. Having my respect as a wolf player is a real pain in the ass when you are town, I hear.

But fine, I will just let you be town for the day because statistically you are more likely to be, and if you're not an anime villain then I won't make you out to be one. It is a chill game after all, it's more important to be chill than have 200 IQ brain ideas on what scum will do day 1 tbh. You say I misread your tone, I'll blanketly believe you because why not.

Unvote: Katze

No prime suspect in mind really, so I'll do a wolfy unvote with no revote for now.

Later my gators.

[Achro]

i'd ask both of you to remember this is a chill game but im only gona say it once and then just ignore any posts with more than 100 words

not that i'm blaming either of you but just meh

37 to say 'imagine thinking this is Achro not chill' lmao.

Someone tell the lore.

Ok bye lol.

[ladd]

Katze seems like an obvious villager tbh

Someone had to say it

[nebjiamn]

https://media.tenor.com/xrkMXs6t96wAAAAC/cookie-monster.gif

[ladd]

And achro is prob one as well (villager i mean)

V
Ladd
Katze
Achro
Cuth
Taffy (almost no experience with them tho)
Visor

Insomnia/benneh both feel like i will eventually villa read them, just not enuf stuff for now

Dont care for cape last post. Need more for ender

Dya i have a lean on but wanna see a bit more before commiting which is why i have kinda avoided talking about them

[Visor]

Where's your head at benneh

(And you, Winston)

[nebjiamn]

And achro is prob one as well (villager i mean)

V
Ladd
Katze
Achro
Cuth
Taffy (almost no experience with them tho)
Visor

Insomnia/benneh both feel like i will eventually villa read them, just not enuf stuff for now

Dont care for cape last post. Need more for ender

Dya i have a lean on but wanna see a bit more before commiting which is why i have kinda avoided talking about them
i don't dig the taffy read. the way they questioned visor's vote on achro and then instantly piggybacked it with him deserving pressure because he can post enough as a wolf

maybe i didn't really understand their point about how many posts he had vs how many post caps we have here, but regardless of that, it just felt like a wolfy way to shoehorn in a vote after asking for why visor made it in the first place

otherwise i agree with most of ur reads

[Cape90]

Wanted to mention that I thought dya looked scummy to me which probably means they are town

[Cape90]

I didn't get the townreads on taffy.

Just thought they were ~fine

[nebjiamn]

Where's your head at benneh

(And you, Winston)
pretty close to ladd's list. i'd drop taffy and maybe take you down a shade even tho i want to believe.

cape's pretty null and i kinda expected something similar to his last post regardless of his alignment so that didn't help

some slight wolf leans but really i want to see more posting from winston/ender/dya before i did into anything cause i don't wanna force the thread perspective onto anything before ppl are really settled in

[Cape90]

This has been amazing commentary from the grocery store

[Visor]

i don't dig the taffy read. the way they questioned visor's vote on achro and then instantly piggybacked it with him deserving pressure because he can post enough as a wolf

maybe i didn't really understand their point about how many posts he had vs how many post caps we have here, but regardless of that, it just felt like a wolfy way to shoehorn in a vote after asking for why visor made it in the first place

otherwise i agree with most of ur reads

Fair read, I like it

[Cape90]

vote: cape

I don't think anyone else really stands out

Dyas posting hasn't kicked on but I'm fine with that for now

Cuth seems okay for now

Nothing really moving the needle re ladd or benneh


Achro/dya/cape wilves GG :curtain:

Sensing this is wolf on gut feel

[nebjiamn]

This has been amazing commentary from the grocery store
get the korean corn dogs while ur there

[Cape90]

vote: cape

I don't think anyone else really stands out

Dyas posting hasn't kicked on but I'm fine with that for now

Cuth seems okay for now

Nothing really moving the needle re ladd or benneh


Achro/dya/cape wilves GG :curtain:


Okay read over cape and his posting seemed a bit directionless but otherwise fine. Which according to my history means he is scum so carry on.

I don't get this lol

[Cuthillius]

Sensing this is wolf on gut feel

vote with me you won't

also, thoughts on the term "omgut"?

[Cape90]

The last time town Cape called me obvious town I was a wolf who swept him. What's different here compared to that game iyo?

It means you are wolf
Hmmyes

[Cape90]

vote: cape

I don't think anyone else really stands out

Dyas posting hasn't kicked on but I'm fine with that for now

Cuth seems okay for now

Nothing really moving the needle re ladd or benneh


Achro/dya/cape wilves GG :curtain:


vote with me you won't

also, thoughts on the term "omgut"?

Not t until I'm done shopping

[Cape90]

I like the term omgut lol

[Cape90]

Lazily calling katze town for 139

[EnderWiggin]

This post is to renew my townread subscriptions.

[EnderWiggin]

This post is to lazily sheep.

Vote: Dya

[Cuthillius]

sk/winston/dya eyes emoji?

[Cape90]

what on gods green earth

i thought u were meming about me

You are town but I am not unvoting you yet

[Cape90]

Vote: Visor

Actually I will

[Cuthillius]

ender whose body of work (of the people who have posted more) has made you been like oooh the most

and whose has made you been like mmmh the most

[nebjiamn]

Vote: Visor

Actually I will
you tried the corndogs didn't you

[EnderWiggin]

ender whose body of work (of the people who have posted more) has made you been like oooh the most

and whose has made you been like mmmh the most

Define "Posted more"?

Preliminary answer:
Ladd
Visor

In no particular order.

[Cuthillius]

lmao ok

a couple things

what do you mean by "in no particular order"

and also i just mean not like taffy or dya or someone

but also could you please justify what makes you be like oooh or mmh about whomever you talk about

[Cape90]

you tried the corndogs didn't you

I saw the light

[EnderWiggin]

lmao ok

a couple things

what do you mean by "in no particular order"

and also i just mean not like taffy or dya or someone

but also could you please justify what makes you be like oooh or mmh about whomever you talk about

No, I don't think I will.

(In no particular order because I'm not saying which made me go which way.)

[katze]

why would a member of the town ever not answer a question like that, ender? perplexing /s

nah but fr do you have any fancy words to say about any players ur kinda floating and i dont. know what ur thinking. at all rly.

gimme something

also SilverKeith i miss u pls be alive ill be sad if ur not

[Cuthillius]

this thread feels stifling right now

[katze]

dyachei Totally not Taffy Winston Hughes

poke

Cuthillius / anyone whos aroundish rn

thoughts on capes posting after he like, started Playing The Game?

[dyachei]

I decided to play video games instead of this. sorry not sorry

Insom, I didn't say you were different to anni. I said your attitude this game reminds me of anni. You don't really give a shit what people think about you

If you think me picking up on that makes me a wolf, I cant help you

[dyachei]

visor thinking I'm a wolf is probably whatever. i dont get what he didnt get about my insom read. And he didnt really ask me, which is kind of annoying

[katze]

sup dya

what game u playin

any thoughts on what visor/insoms reads on you means for their alignment, if anything? or any general reads unrelated to reads on you


for the purpose of the above you can pretend im not voting you because i am not sure what im doing with my vote as of now

[EnderWiggin]

why would a member of the town ever not answer a question like that, ender? perplexing /s

nah but fr do you have any fancy words to say about any players ur kinda floating and i dont. know what ur thinking. at all rly.

gimme something

also SilverKeith i miss u pls be alive ill be sad if ur not

I ran out of fancy words last year tbh.

[SilverKeith]

Hello losers.

I was about to say hi then mentally check out until like 3 hours before eod which is the time in which I'll be able to play but I'm actually able to read everything before going to sleep this is new to me.

[nebjiamn]

@dyachei (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=101700) @Totally not Taffy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=102455) @Winston Hughes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=49887)

poke

@Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100057) / anyone whos aroundish rn

thoughts on capes posting after he like, started Playing The Game?
Not great tbh

Let’s give him another 96 hours

[nebjiamn]

hi sk welcome to purgatory

Vote: Taffy

[SilverKeith]

- I like Achro's approach from a "try new things" perspective tho I think it's kind of un-achro-ey. Ftr I'd have taken off the list somene who I didn't want dead just bc I wanted to play more with em.

- I didn't like Taffy's vote towards Achro. It's the kind of explanation for a vote I give when I'm wolfing. Neither them asking for opinions on Visor/Achro so early into the game.

- I decided I wasn't going to really try to read katze today at post #60.

- I don't like Insom's read on ender (#62). I think there's some dissonance between what's he's stating and the importance it should have. Idk how to explaining.


Anyway luckily for me I think I am excellent at knowing who wolfreads me is town or not because my self awareness is dumb. Taffy feels genuine.
why?

- katze is a wolf per post 70. Only partially joking. Also driving woat.

- I think ladd is kinda ok just based on him reaching some v reads which I don't follow but I feel like I should follow.

- Achro explanation towards the taffy thing is illegitimate and apocryphal which is town-indicative of him yesyesyes i do believe this mmhmm.

- I've changed my mind on Achro and I think he's a wolf based on 102. I feel like if Ladd is town, and ladd's buttons clicked when Achro went like "oh I have this idea but it's ok I wasn't really attached to it" and then Ladd townread him for it, this repeat of him explicitly not being attached to ladd's wolfread feels like an appeal to those same buttons.

Also I do not like that half the procesing I've done this game is Achro-centric, tho it makes sense since he's the person who has posted more.


katze

You had a front row seat as towm before to the living hell thT is wolf achro's mind.
I read this post before my mind made the connection that it was a post made by Achro which was mildly amusing

I now regret that katze and Achro are the two players I wrote the most about because I saw the thunderdome post so I've decided to go to sleep. I'm also sorry for the catch up formatting for this post.

[SilverKeith]

ender whose body of work (of the people who have posted more) has made you been like oooh the most

and whose has made you been like mmmh the most

I've skimmed to page 7 and have decided to call cuth town for this post

[SilverKeith]

hi sk welcome to purgatory

Vote: Taffy

Thanks

Vote:Taffy

[SilverKeith]

If I've not mentioned someone in my reads I didn't have anything interesting nor fun to say about them which might be wolf or town indicative for some of y'all but I'm not sure but I'll think about this later so I'm posting this now so it's a thought I put in ppl's heads.

[nebjiamn]

- I like Achro's approach from a "try new things" perspective tho I think it's kind of un-achro-ey. Ftr I'd have taken off the list somene who I didn't want dead just bc I wanted to play more with em.

- I didn't like Taffy's vote towards Achro. It's the kind of explanation for a vote I give when I'm wolfing. Neither them asking for opinions on Visor/Achro so early into the game.

- I decided I wasn't going to really try to read katze today at post #60.

- I don't like Insom's read on ender (#62). I think there's some dissonance between what's he's stating and the importance it should have. Idk how to explaining.


why?

- katze is a wolf per post 70. Only partially joking. Also driving woat.

- I think ladd is kinda ok just based on him reaching some v reads which I don't follow but I feel like I should follow.

- Achro explanation towards the taffy thing is illegitimate and apocryphal which is town-indicative of him yesyesyes i do believe this mmhmm.

- I've changed my mind on Achro and I think he's a wolf based on 102. I feel like if Ladd is town, and ladd's buttons clicked when Achro went like "oh I have this idea but it's ok I wasn't really attached to it" and then Ladd townread him for it, this repeat of him explicitly not being attached to ladd's wolfread feels like an appeal to those same buttons.

Also I do not like that half the procesing I've done this game is Achro-centric, tho it makes sense since he's the person who has posted more.


I read this post before my mind made the connection that it was a post made by Achro which was mildly amusing

I now regret that katze and Achro are the two players I wrote the most about because I saw the thunderdome post so I've decided to go to sleep. I'm also sorry for the catch up formatting for this post.
thats same to how i felt about taffy's vote too. just feels like a conclusion was jumped to and reasoning was filled in to justify the vote

to be fair tho they did ask for visor's reasoning they just didnt wait for him to answer before voting

[ladd]

- I like Achro's approach from a "try new things" perspective tho I think it's kind of un-achro-ey. Ftr I'd have taken off the list somene who I didn't want dead just bc I wanted to play more with em.

- I didn't like Taffy's vote towards Achro. It's the kind of explanation for a vote I give when I'm wolfing. Neither them asking for opinions on Visor/Achro so early into the game.

- I decided I wasn't going to really try to read katze today at post #60.

- I don't like Insom's read on ender (#62). I think there's some dissonance between what's he's stating and the importance it should have. Idk how to explaining.


why?

- katze is a wolf per post 70. Only partially joking. Also driving woat.

- I think ladd is kinda ok just based on him reaching some v reads which I don't follow but I feel like I should follow.

- Achro explanation towards the taffy thing is illegitimate and apocryphal which is town-indicative of him yesyesyes i do believe this mmhmm.

- I've changed my mind on Achro and I think he's a wolf based on 102. I feel like if Ladd is town, and ladd's buttons clicked when Achro went like "oh I have this idea but it's ok I wasn't really attached to it" and then Ladd townread him for it, this repeat of him explicitly not being attached to ladd's wolfread feels like an appeal to those same buttons.

Also I do not like that half the procesing I've done this game is Achro-centric, tho it makes sense since he's the person who has posted more.


I read this post before my mind made the connection that it was a post made by Achro which was mildly amusing

I now regret that katze and Achro are the two players I wrote the most about because I saw the thunderdome post so I've decided to go to sleep. I'm also sorry for the catch up formatting for this post.

Cool post and super villagery imo

[ladd]

I get what yall are saying about taffy

In my mind their thought process was: see player they respect in visor vote achro--> ask why-->check for themself on achro-->find the 50 post stuff (i agree the reasoning is not great but is it something a wolf would bother to think about?)-->vote achro-->ask people opinions on achro/visor cause in their mind either visor is right or he may be a wolf



I read it as something like this and it seemed okay but obv need more



~Everyone coming in with an achro wolf read. Isitmewhoiswrong.jpg


Nah its the children

[nebjiamn]

you could very well be right ladd and it is as simple as that

i don't really feel we have much else to dig into though. i was hoping we'd see more posting and different perspectives cause it felt like the threads been stagnant for most of the day and people just didn't wanan discuss more katze/achro/cape stuff but nothings really come out beyond that and people checking back in. so here we are <18 hours to EOD and maybe yall were just right that we're launching donut boy into the void but idk

maybe this will poke people around for better or worse

[EnderWiggin]

I want to keep Taffy alive tbh. She dies a lot as town. Tbh normally I attribute wolfreading her to when I don't have a random urge to wagon her.

SK's post is kinda towny imo. Even though I disagree with a bunch of it.

[Cuthillius]

i'll bite

what about it is towny

[Visor]

I always wolfread taffy (it's their own fault ofc, I'm innocent), so I'm gonna just let them do their own thing

[Visor]

visor thinking I'm a wolf is probably whatever. i dont get what he didnt get about my insom read. And he didnt really ask me, which is kind of annoying

The phrasing just felt too explanatory

[Raskolnikov]

Dyachei(2): katze, ender
Visor(1): Cape
Cape(1): ladd
Katze (2): insomnia, cuth
Achro(2): Visor, Taffy
Taffy(2): benneh, SK
Not voting (3): Dyachei, achro, Winston

Will be driving today. Should post more tallies close to EOD.

[ladd]

you could very well be right ladd and it is as simple as that

i don't really feel we have much else to dig into though. i was hoping we'd see more posting and different perspectives cause it felt like the threads been stagnant for most of the day and people just didn't wanan discuss more katze/achro/cape stuff but nothings really come out beyond that and people checking back in. so here we are <18 hours to EOD and maybe yall were just right that we're launching donut boy into the void but idk

maybe this will poke people around for better or worse

Ya fair enuf

Tbh taffy strikes me as someone who will eventyally make a clearing post if they are a villager idk why

[ladd]

to be clear i dont think cape is an home run wolf cause like i don't have a gotcha moment like it felt i had the last couple of games here with capage/boq, its more of a body of work read

i have re read his last pop in and it still feels like he is kinda just saying things




the Sk wall flowed p well and i liked his progression of achro in it and how he linked me to my achro read. it feels like the classic Sk opening wall where i disagree with a bunch of reads but the wall itself is villagery



in a shocking turn of events katze may be my top villager, i am happy i didnt call their first post wolfy



i am curious to see where dya pushes

[EnderWiggin]

i'll bite

what about it is towny

Kinda feels self contradictory at times.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: katze

[insomnia]

I decided to play video games instead of this. sorry not sorry

Insom, I didn't say you were different to anni. I said your attitude this game reminds me of anni. You don't really give a shit what people think about you

If you think me picking up on that makes me a wolf, I cant help you

i worded my post poorly

im saying it’s odd that you are comparing it to anni instead of being a general read because i feel like i play the same way all the time in mashes

another minor thing is that you typically don’t state a read on me unless it’s after i make some thought that’s villagery for me, tho i guess you said it’s super thin so /shrug

[Achro]

Hello SilverKeith two questions. Why is it unlike me to try new things? If I recall the last game we played together, draft mafia, opened with me doing something new and interesting as well. I would say it's fairly typical in games with new conditions for me to experiment.

102 is not wolf indicative for me I am afraid. I just replaced a generic reason to wolf read ladd a little with what I felt was a stronger one to tr him. Don't see why you feel that is something that is firmly in the domain of wolf achro vs town achro. What is your experience with my wolf game?

As for Taffy first off way to shade my town sorting process, but also most would agree with the process I use to sort townirs being as you described so fair.

Anyway I don't know taffy's meta but to explain I think generally it is very town indicative to look for gotchas like Taffy did with me. I feel it is more likely villagers look at past games AND also villagers don't really consider the results before cherrypicking data. Taffy got my post count right and said 'how are you going to struggle to solve?' And didn't stop to ask if I was a wolf. Or I'd town killed any wolves. Or if I posted the last day for their posts per day to be accurate. Felt very cute and town to me.

Now if this is stuff Taffy does all the time as a wolf someone will have to let me know.

Hmm

Not sure how to feel about the wall tbh. It feels like commentaryvanyone could say. It's all fine but not hearing town in you quite yet. It's not disagreeable in its conclusions but I also dont understand why you think Taffy is the best vote in wolf achro worlds as I think I would be TMIing them town if wolf with my town read of them attempting to disarm them like I did. I guess you don't need to worry too much about pairing thoughts before any flips though and maybe thats the case here.

Can you link a wolf game where you reference other games for your first vote? I find this is usually town more than scum at a rate much higher than rand in my experience and would like to see otherwise.

If Taffy does this type of thing as a wolf with proof then they haven't done much else and fair, but it would for sure never be my first thought to think wolf.

Wall was ok although not out of sk's scum range and catchup walls are kind of the easiest thing to fake. Good look if I am wrong about Taffy though as sk could have easily pivoted to me instead.

[insomnia]

Vote: Cape90

[insomnia]

don't really have much experience with taffy, but she tends to post awkwardly early on and then posting some lock clearing awkward post later on and then she settles into just being an obv villager

that's part of why i don't wanna explore it today

[Achro]

Actually maybe lean wolf which is a little annoying because in one post SK has more content than most of the player list. This day feels destined for a chop of a villager unless I am wrong on Taffy being one. Not feeling a lot of thoughts from a lot of people hmm.

I guess my problem is I don't understand the town thought process behind not voting me there if you think I am a wolf. I am very active and also in my mind kind of unpaired with Taffy for the way I talked about him as the good thing to do there w/w is to get into some type of scuffle not top town them and praise them which I feel like can be considered much more pockety than whatever I did with ladd in that post. It feels unintuitive to me. Why read intentions into ladd interaction when the wolf achro/town Taffy ones are much more obvious. I also feel like your reasoning for Taffy is weak unless this is firmly in their usual scum initiative.

Further, it feels like the difference between these two events is commenting on ladd also allows you to smoothly town read ladd almost in the background which feels unpartnered to me.

So while I don't expect this to go anywhere since you posted a nice wall and 50 posts is not going to give me any thread pull, I guess I will vote you for now.

vote:silverkeith

Not confident or anything but I at least want follow up on my points. Some more firm discussion would be nice too if possible. If not I guess we will kill whichever villager we care about least in about 12 hours and call it a day.

[Achro]

Anyway I think I like Visor's vote on me now when earlier I didn't. I 5hink he would be wary of just having a vote chill on a villager for most of the day and not care that I didn't like it as a wolf since he knows I can be prickly at times. Nothing too indicative or anything since he is just floating with it but maybe more town than scum.

Katze's suspicion of me is fine I guess if we aren't assuming they are an anime villain which I am unsure how prudent it is but also I will give benefit of the doubt and imagine they are being genuine.

So really only sk sticks out to me as not feeling too genuine atm.

I also dont like how much cape is being discussed unless he is a wolf and then I knew it all along. I don't get how he is the most wolfy out of everyone and if someone could explain it I would appreciate it. It almost feels like 'yeah we don't like that guy' which is fine and all if he is a wolf but I would like to know why exactly and I don't. So insomnia that's for you and others.

[Achro]

vote: katze

This is your second post and you have no content. Is this a joke vote and if not what have you not liked about katze so far? Do you enjoy playing mafia or are you here for the experience? Do I know you by another name?

Thanks if and when you get to these questions.

[insomnia]

im going with my gut mostly for this d1

but im just not buying most / any of his reads. doesn't exactly feel like a perspective i'd have if i were to be wagonned in a game of this caliber

if you want a particular bad point, i kinda don't like that he seems to give people voting him leeway and focusing on people that are not stating much about him / semi-defending him, like he called out benneh for saying he was ~fine and mostly a guess. feels like a perspective a wolf would hold because they'll justify to themselves being wolfy (so they can't call out people voting them) and he had quite a lot of commentary imo

idk, he's in a game with good villagers, and he isn't calling anyone voting him out?

he feels too chill about it in a way that i can't really justify

[insomnia]

i guess he ended up voting visor

idk, his outlook on some things are just weird to me /shrug. didn't like the post he had addressing you / katze ~at all


if i end up having something better by EoD, i'll swap

[Winston Hughes]

This is your second post and you have no content.

Yeah, I've only skimmed the thread so far.


Is this a joke vote and if not what have you not liked about katze so far?

It's not a joke.

I picked up a few mild smells from certain players while skimming, but the most distinctive odour was katze's Public Image Strategy.


Do you enjoy playing mafia or are you here for the experience?

I do not enjoy playing as mafia, but I am usually quite good at it.

I very much enjoy playing as town, but I am usually quite bad at it.

This game I am expecting a short period of joyful incompetence before being vigged or mislynched.


Do I know you by another name?

I also go by (Mrs) McGinty.


Thanks if and when you get to these questions.

Thanks for the questions (not least because they have given me reason to procrastinate on the mountain of domestic chores I need to get through today).

[Achro]

Yeah the only problem I have with that insomnia is I keep suspecting cape for being weird and it makes him town. This is the hedgiest read of my life though.

Winston is probably always town for mindmelding with me about Katze's posts but saying it a different way. Katze did indeed feel like they were managing image a lot. It doesn't make katze wolf but I think observing that quietly does make Winston town.

And of course I love asking questions. You are free to ask me anything I like. Finding town who are bad as town but good as mafia is a bit of fun for me. I have a few friends who fit that mold well.

[EnderWiggin]

I can get behind Katze sus.

I now very much like Winston/Achro/Taffy as town tbh.

[dyachei]

sup dya

what game u playin

any thoughts on what visor/insoms reads on you means for their alignment, if anything? or any general reads unrelated to reads on you


for the purpose of the above you can pretend im not voting you because i am not sure what im doing with my vote as of now

Diablo 4. It's hard for me to find time to play with a toddler running around so I'm trying to finish the campaign in order to be able to play the seasons with others.

I do think taffy's vote kind of sucked but not really sure i want to vote there today. Idk, I don't know taffy well enough and it's still essentially very early game.

If I had to choose someone else to vote, I'd probably choose cape.

[dyachei]

visor's read on me means nothing for his alignment katze

not sure about insom's tbh.

[ladd]

I can get behind Katze sus.

I now very much like Winston/Achro/Taffy as town tbh.

Can you elaborate on those plz?

[EnderWiggin]

Can you elaborate on those plz?

Taffy being hard sussed early feels like town!Taffy. And if it isn't I'll work it out later.

Winston I liked their jib.

Achro is doing the particular thing he does where he's like "But why would I do this???" with self-righteousness. Which he doesn't *usually* do as wolf.

[Achro]

Taffy being hard sussed early feels like town!Taffy. And if it isn't I'll work it out later.

Winston I liked their jib.

Achro is doing the particular thing he does where he's like "But why would I do this???" with self-righteousness. Which he doesn't *usually* do as wolf.

I prefer to think of it as inquiring and looking for actual answers to that question but anyway ender and I are masons now. Sorry not sorry.

(Town read for the person not named ender who can guess why I am tring ender correctly.)

[dyachei]

oh and ender's vote for me means nothing about his alignment. Pretty sure he just saw an opportunity and went for it

[Winston Hughes]

for posterity:

katze/cuth/ender

zack visor sk

[EnderWiggin]

oh and ender's vote for me means nothing about his alignment. Pretty sure he just saw an opportunity and went for it

*blink*

What?

[katze]

gm

thinking i am mafia for being self conscious is reasonable but i assure you it is just a thing i am. its kinda amusing that the people who've seen me play the most are the people who townread me tho (i think, cant rly tell if insom is there yet but it felt like he was)

regarding taffy, ive been kinda sitting on my read on them all game because i've not really agreed that their push on achro was CLEARING (altho if hes a wolf it might be lol) but it seemed like everybody was comfortable clearing them for it and they seemed to be the player itg who had the highest odds of getting yeeted d1 prerand and i didnt rly want that to happen unless they were actually mega wolfy (hence why i answered taffy to the achro "veto a yeet today" thing)

earlier i thought there was good odds achro was a wolf which in my mind would probs clear them and/or taffy was just kinda threadspewed town + i do believe their posting is ~villagery to some extent

hmm

this may be useful later

p#40 start

p#52 ladd TR
p#65/p#84 achro TR
p#68 insom TR

p#157 benneh doubts
p#159 cape doubt
p#162 visor agrees w doubt

eh. i guess "threadspewed town" probably never applied to them. Cuthillius i noticed you never rly commented on taffy during that period of posts, whys that?

[dyachei]

*blink*

What?

could have sworn you vote for me earlier?

[katze]

taffy not with achro benneh cuth(?)

that doesnt mean a ton to me rn because i think benneh and cuth are probs town either way and achro maybe as well

could plop SK on that list too but itd be shakier

purely mathematically i guess that gives them decent village odds but i do really want to see more from them. probs wouldnt vote today if i could avoid it




unrelatedly i do think winstons posting this game is pretty LACKING but ive only seen them play once and i was wolfing against him and felt like "who the hell is this guy and why are his reads so good" so im PROBABLY not going to do anything with this yet



i have no thoughts on keiths opening wall rly. at least on his alignment i am happy that he is alive i enjoy mister silver keithzes presence

[EnderWiggin]

could have sworn you vote for me earlier?

I did. I just didn't understand the "Alignment doesn't matter, Ender took an opportunity" reasoning.

[katze]

ladd is dya obvious town or obvious mafia i am like so confident its one of the two

[Achro]

Personally if I were in Katie's position as a town slot I woukd be a bit curious why SK and I both as wolves but voted Taffy and along with that didn't make any comment about our pairing being unlikely.

The fact katze thinks of that in relationship to Taffy intuitively but Keith in a big wall doesn't think about it at all along with the fact that walls are pretty easy makes me start to think more than they were just faking their thoughts. Would love to hear Keith's thoughts on the matter though.

[ladd]

Taffy being hard sussed early feels like town!Taffy. And if it isn't I'll work it out later.

Winston I liked their jib.

Achro is doing the particular thing he does where he's like "But why would I do this???" with self-righteousness. Which he doesn't *usually* do as wolf.

alrighty thx


why do you think katze is a wolf?


ladd is dya obvious town or obvious mafia i am like so confident its one of the two

https://media.giphy.com/media/jPAdK8Nfzzwt2/giphy.gif

not gonna say anything about this until eod probably

[dyachei]

I did. I just didn't understand the "Alignment doesn't matter, Ender took an opportunity" reasoning.

i dont think I'm wrong in saying we don't tend to read each other well, particularly in early game. I also don't think I'm wrong to say we clash rather often.

I think you took the opportunity to sheep someone who you think reads me better and vote me

[ladd]

I didn't get the townreads on taffy.

Just thought they were ~fine

according to my guide this is w/w

got em


(it is a wolfy post tho)

[dyachei]

ladd is dya obvious town or obvious mafia i am like so confident its one of the two

I'm obvious town

you're welcome

[katze]

vote: Cuth

feeling cute will probably change later

achro i wasnt rly making pairing reads outside of taffy, cant tell if you were asking about that or not

fair enough ladd


i dont think I'm wrong in saying we don't tend to read each other well, particularly in early game. I also don't think I'm wrong to say we clash rather often.

I think you took the opportunity to sheep someone who you think reads me better and vote me

wouldnt that imply you find his vote on you villagery or am i misreading that

[Achro]

i dont think I'm wrong in saying we don't tend to read each other well, particularly in early game. I also don't think I'm wrong to say we clash rather often.

I think you took the opportunity to sheep someone who you think reads me better and vote me

If dya is a wolf this is a perspective slip and ender is town.

I am not saying it is a perspective slip. Only the resulting read if dya flips wolf. Ty for your time.

[Achro]

vote: Cuth

feeling cute will probably change later

achro i wasnt rly making pairing reads outside of taffy, cant tell if you were asking about that or not

fair enough ladd



wouldnt that imply you find his vote on you villagery or am i misreading that

My point is sk thought Taffy and I were wolf both but made no comment on how that pairing is weird while you did.

Also how do I see how many posts I have in a topic. I counted earlier lol

[dyachei]

vote: Cuth

feeling cute will probably change later

achro i wasnt rly making pairing reads outside of taffy, cant tell if you were asking about that or not

fair enough ladd



wouldnt that imply you find his vote on you villagery or am i misreading that

I think he'd do it as either alignment because there's no fucking responsibility to the vote either way

[ladd]

My point is sk thought Taffy and I were wolf both but made no comment on how that pairing is weird while you did.

Also how do I see how many posts I have in a topic. I counted earlier lol

you can click on "replies" you are at 46 fwiw

[katze]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/152962-Guide-for-players-coming-from-offsite?p=2053760485&viewfull=1#post2053760485 skim this rq achro

im surprised im not closer to 50 tbh

[Winston Hughes]

unrelatedly i do think winstons posting this game is pretty LACKING but ive only seen them play once and i was wolfing against him and felt like "who the hell is this guy and why are his reads so good" so im PROBABLY not going to do anything with this yet

I'll forgive your forgetting, but by this point in the game you're thinking about, I'd posted even less of substance than I have here.

Come to think of it, even when I did start getting into it (100+ posts in the last 6 hours of the day lol), I'm not sure my reads were all that either. I just looked ballsy because I was drunk and smart because I got lucky picking ladd (who, I must mention, seems quite different here).

Right now, my main question is, with eod in 7 hours, how early is too early to mix my first martini? :undecided:

[Achro]

Ah yes the replies. I looked at that thread before but manually forgot about it since I only played once. Okay cool. Tbh not bad that I will only be capped for like an afternoon. But also not surprising that I will be capped lol.

Anyway 12 players let's see.

Town people in order of confidence roughly
Ender - like their world view a lot, feels chill and I can buy that they think self righteousness is a town tell for me generally (it is not it is mood dependent but this observation makes sense from the games he has played with me).

Taffy - I am. Fucking literal GOD at reading into votes on me being suspicious vs not and this slot is NEVER A WOLF. Phrased this way for maximum funny if wrong but until proven otherwise I trust my read on that because fr I am good at understanding thread position of myself.
Winston - good vibes. Like the katze sus because it felt solvey to me
Cuth - had a post I really liked earlier but I forget what now. But I will trust early Chris.
Ladd - chill vibes, like most of their thoughts we shall see if he leads us off a cliff.
Cape - god help me I think he is town at this point but not confident. Lots of talk about him being scummy tho so maybe a little thread spewed. Not sure not usually my type of read.
Insomnia - not much experience with this one but seems alright to start.


Not so towny 5

Katze - not feeling the MOJO but also willing to see what they come up with. Probably not bussing given reputation so if they bag a wolf today probably ok
Visor - I remember nothing
Neb - I remember nothing but felt compelled to put them here
Dya - starting to get bad vibes but nothing definite
Sk - see many posts above, but basically I don't think that wall post was wrll thought out and genuinely solving the game from an uninformed perspective. Felt like he was placing chess pieces instead of trying to form reads. Want to hear from him tho because it could be a simple misunderstanding on my end.

That's my legacy for now if I get capped.

[katze]

alright sure i opened your iso that game and that mostly checks out

you're free to go for now

[katze]

im soulreading that achro, if town, thinks that i am a wolf but is trying to pretend hes unsure so i bus at EoD and then he buries me tomorrow

im posting this to fuck with your head

glgl

[nebjiamn]

im going with my gut mostly for this d1

but im just not buying most / any of his reads. doesn't exactly feel like a perspective i'd have if i were to be wagonned in a game of this caliber

if you want a particular bad point, i kinda don't like that he seems to give people voting him leeway and focusing on people that are not stating much about him / semi-defending him, like he called out benneh for saying he was ~fine and mostly a guess. feels like a perspective a wolf would hold because they'll justify to themselves being wolfy (so they can't call out people voting them) and he had quite a lot of commentary imo

idk, he's in a game with good villagers, and he isn't calling anyone voting him out?

he feels too chill about it in a way that i can't really justify
i wouldn't have minded this so much until he just dropped the read on me later when he was grocery posting. initially it felt like he had a good reason to wolf read me and we'd see 'a case' and i'd have a better chance to read him off that but then he just let the read on me go.

i'm not really sold on his visor read either. visor could be a wolf but its prob not for a random shitpost linking cape with ahcro and ... dya? i think it was

[dyachei]

im finding it hard to get into this game for some reason. weird because I love the player list

my secret wolf read is benneh