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Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:43
Sucks about the delay but it is what it is.

I get better as I go along anyway

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:44
Yes

What are your reedz rite now?

Visor
12-19-2016, 04:47
What are your reedz rite now?

In the Nile

I still think Sooh is wolfy

Not much else

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:48
In the Nile

I still think Sooh is wolfy

Not much else

Why to for?

Help me see what you see

Visor
12-19-2016, 04:48
Interested in seeing how schema progresses in the gamr.and against Renata

Schema
12-19-2016, 04:49
Gah. Yes, I was talking to you. I'm sorry, I'm getting tired and stupid.

Np, that's my M.O.

You quote yourself in the distinctly different comment but make no mention of who you're talking about. I'm a bit cluttered after 12 pages of catch-up, so names/mentions absolutely welcome.

That said, I just got to one post from you that is making me a bit more comfortable. You're pressing a bit more and I like that. But you also seem cautious -- go aroundey at times. Could be play style differences, I'll probably feel more strongly one way or the other given the rest of the game day. I make no mention of lynching any of my "uncomfortables" and at this point, I'm only hoping to engage a few people so that I can get something a little firmer to grab a hold of in my reads. I do better interacting than forming read foundations on others' interactions.

Renata
12-19-2016, 04:49
Visor, I noticed you seemed to drop the issue of Jabbz after having him as maybe-wolfy in your first reads list. You let me and Zack deal with talking to him and asking him questions; you didn't comment that I remember on the plethora of town reads or anything. You just dropped the read and then nothing.

I'm not conscious enough to think of asking you anything about this, but I noticed it.

Visor
12-19-2016, 04:50
Why to for?

Help me see what you see

No care about the gamestate

Snarky attitude at odds to how I expect her to play as town

Visor
12-19-2016, 04:51
Visor, I noticed you seemed to drop the issue of Jabbz after having him as maybe-wolfy in your first reads list. You let me and Zack deal with talking to him and asking him questions; you didn't comment that I remember on the plethora of town reads or anything. You just dropped the read and then nothing.

I'm not conscious enough to think of asking you anything about this, but I noticed it.

I'm extremely inconsistent, enjoy it

No, I didn't really feel that strongly and felt like focusing elsewhere

Schema
12-19-2016, 04:51
I make no mention of lynching any of my "uncomfortables" and at this point, I'm only hoping to engage a few people so that I can get something a little firmer to grab a hold of in my reads. I do better interacting than forming read foundations on others' interactions.

This is where I lolme.

Okay, Renata, I meant that "lynch" really softly in terms of idkwtf I am doing yet. I see your point, but you reacted rather strongly to it as well.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:52
No care about the gamestate

Snarky attitude at odds to how I expect her to play as town

Hmm yeah snarky doesn't seem like the sooh I'd played against in heroes. She was really upset that no one was listening or lynching onuzq and definitely had a lot of presence there, and in another recent game I played with her over on DM

I iso her and see what I come up with nao

Renata
12-19-2016, 04:52
Np, that's my M.O.

You quote yourself in the distinctly different comment but make no mention of who you're talking about. I'm a bit cluttered after 12 pages of catch-up, so names/mentions absolutely welcome.

That said, I just got to one post from you that is making me a bit more comfortable. You're pressing a bit more and I like that. But you also seem cautious -- go aroundey at times. Could be play style differences, I'll probably feel more strongly one way or the other given the rest of the game day. I make no mention of lynching any of my "uncomfortables" and at this point, I'm only hoping to engage a few people so that I can get something a little firmer to grab a hold of in my reads. I do better interacting than forming read foundations on others' interactions.

That might be fair, the observation on me. I'm still interested in your reasoning on Winston and Monty too.

Not to be a pest but when I mention lynching it's from this:

Don't feel too comfortable wrt Mont, Renata, Winston. I'm considering all their posts and any arguments made toward them and a lynch that direction.

You did say it.

Renata
12-19-2016, 04:53
No care about the gamestate

Snarky attitude at odds to how I expect her to play as town

First mention of Sooh's meta that I've seen. Data point.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:57
I meant he was pocketing you, actually.

Let's see.
It's D1.
I've spent a lot of the day doing stuff and then an hour calculating bets and RPS results.
I read ~250 posts in one go and found my brain melting to a cheese-like consistency.

I'd honestly tell you to vote Sooh just to save my sorry arse and see what I can do in a few days when the RPS game has ended, but honestly, no. You can always burn Monty for having been scum last game, but that would apply only to me.

I'm not sure whether Monstrbro pings me because I've never played with him before or because he's doing something scummy. Beyond that… I always tend to analyse on the basis of votes. I'll see about that tomorrow. The group stage of RPS ends then and then the number of matches is halved every 24 hours. Yay.

I would have responded to this earlier but I was having trouble finding the words but as it stands

What specifically about what I have done pings you? Is it just the manner in which I am posting or can you point out specific posts that you don't like or "feel awkward" to you, because as it stands you've approached my slot in approached way that doesn't really allow me much room for discussion

Plus it might help to quantify your read

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:58
In unrelated news, but I feel like sharing anyway, I feel like the way Winston approached my slot was villagery and I don't want to lynch him

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 04:59
El Barto is non indicative so far, or at least I can't tell until he answers my questions (or possibly not even then because sometimes I suck at this game)

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:00
I would iso sooh but I am both a procrastinator and don't know how to on mobile or this forum and am too proud to ask

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:00
That might be fair, the observation on me. I'm still interested in your reasoning on Winston and Monty too.

Not to be a pest but when I mention lynching it's from this:


You did say it.

Yes, that was the "lolme" I gave. I saw where you got it from, but those are early discomforts and putting feelers out rather than my hard reads.

Where are you at as far as atheotes goes? I noticed you commented on their reads list earlier.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:01
I figured it out

She doesnt seem so bad to me visor? Idk maybe I'm missing something

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:03
:yes:
Glad you're becoming proficient at reading me.

I mean idk tho

Everything she posts is just so null

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:05
I would iso sooh but I am both a procrastinator and don't know how to on mobile or this forum and am too proud to ask

On this forum you have to go out to the Gameroom page and click on the number next to "replies" for this thread. You'll get a list of everyone and can iso from there. I don't know if it works on mobile or not.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:06
I just searched thread and typed in "sooh"

Worked like a charm (I think)

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:07
I mean idk tho

Everything she posts is just so null

Show me the villager mindset

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:09
Show me the villager mindset

I cant argue with that

And the last time I had her as "just null" I fake peeked her wolf (and she was)

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:11
She seems kinda like the lower end of a middle of the pack lynch

Let's see what she says before DL and then maybe some other people will have opinions on her by then

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:12
Btw I really like the default avatar on this forum for no real reason

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:13
What do you think of schema, monstr

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:14
I'm having trouble seeing how the mechanics will work best for either party at the moment. It's all up in the air for me right now.

Like, a viable scum strategy could be to keep their own members in just enough groups to where they could swing the vote their way, while stacking obvious villagers together in other groups making those groups larger, but with less votes or influence. That's my understanding of gerrymandering, and I assume that's what we're trying to avoid here. I think keeping the groups as even as possible is the most pro-town, regardless of the amount of groups.

I think this is really on point tho

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:14
What do you think of schema, monstr

Idk lemme iso be back to you in five

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:18
What do you think of schema, monstr

What do you think of schema, visor

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:18
Still seven pages from caught up. My own fault, whatever, I'll get there. Also I'm incredibly rusty and haven't played in months, so bear with me as I get up to speed on all the players.

Don't feel too comfortable wrt Mont, Renata, Winston. I'm considering all their posts and any arguments made toward them and a lynch that direction. Feel pretty good about Cass and dice.

First, Cass is just solvey, engaging everyone, asking hard questions. I'm happy with her game play and her follow-through, she seems committed.

I believe I've played with dice before on PerC and idk, I'm getting town vibes from over there this game. Tonally on point, if nothing else.

Okay, few more pages to go. BBL.

How good of a scum is schema?

Scale of 1-10

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:18
Idk lemme iso be back to you in five

Iso lol. Everything I've done is right here.

Who do you want to lynch so bad today?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:19
Np, that's my M.O.

You quote yourself in the distinctly different comment but make no mention of who you're talking about. I'm a bit cluttered after 12 pages of catch-up, so names/mentions absolutely welcome.

That said, I just got to one post from you that is making me a bit more comfortable. You're pressing a bit more and I like that. But you also seem cautious -- go aroundey at times. Could be play style differences, I'll probably feel more strongly one way or the other given the rest of the game day. I make no mention of lynching any of my "uncomfortables" and at this point, I'm only hoping to engage a few people so that I can get something a little firmer to grab a hold of in my reads. I do better interacting than forming read foundations on others' interactions.

This is a decent post it shows at least that schema is reading

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:21
I think this is really on point tho
M e c H a n I c s

What do you think of schema, visor
Patience, young padawan

How good of a scum is schema?

Scale of 1-10

Played it once and went deep

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:24
Yes, that was the "lolme" I gave. I saw where you got it from, but those are early discomforts and putting feelers out rather than my hard reads.

Where are you at as far as atheotes goes? I noticed you commented on their reads list earlier.

Yeah. He's another who's expressed suspicion of me. I think his reason is bad, but I don't know if it's scum-bad or not. For right now, null leaning dubious, but not high priority for today since I do think I have a decent chance of being able to read him given time.

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:25
I mean idk tho

Everything she posts is just so null

That's why I wanted meta.

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:25
Let us know your thoughts when you are caught up schema

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:25
This is a decent post it shows at least that schema is reading

Your "iso" returned a bit of waffling over Sooh and mostly null as well, at least in the last 10 posts or so.

Who you gonna lunch?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:26
Iso lol. Everything I've done is right here.

Who do you want to lynch so bad today?

I can't quite tell yet. I don't imagine all the scum being in the low volume players buy the high volume ones seem villagery

I mean, I could pick a couple of names and lie that I've read the thread completely but I've done mostly a light skim and gotten and few names to go off of and just ran with it. Been doing isos to get feels and interacting ever since, so pretty much I'm at

Renata
Visor
Dp

Dice
Cass
Winston

Sooh
Schema

Gap

Montmorency

But there was a post that Montmorency made that gave me slight pause irt my scumread

The list is slightly ordered but mostly goes

Villagery
Lightly villagery
Sorta villagery

Scummy

That's about all I've put into the thread so far I think

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:26
Your "iso" returned a bit of waffling over Sooh and mostly null as well, at least in the last 10 posts or so.

Who you gonna lunch?

I voted like ten pages back

Your argument has no ground to stand on

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:27
M e c H a n I c s

Patience, young padawan


Played it once and went deep

Rule of threes?

Maybe. Coming at me like he did was bold, if futile

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:29
I voted like ten pages back

Your argument has no ground to stand on

Argument?

What argument have I made?

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:29
This is a decent post it shows at least that schema is reading

Meh. Wolves read.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:30
Argument?

What argument have I made?

Idk maybe I was inferring you coming at me, but regardless. One thing that's always true of the monstrman is he bites back rawr I have claws

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:31
:drama3::drama2:

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:31
Meh. Wolves read.

i don't read as either wolf or villager

:smug:

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:31
I voted like ten pages back

Your argument has no ground to stand on

Hey, I just wanted a reply and got it. :bow:

I've got some reading back to do.

Visor, what do you make of GH this game?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:31
Meh. Wolves read.

I GUESS

But like I can't put into words well what I want to say all the time which is why a lot of people don't like playing with me

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:33
Meh. Wolves read.

Not always, but yeah, they do. I agree on the "meh" at least.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:33
Having the same avatar as I'm sure a few members has got to be confusing

If only I had a computer I would just mspaint something over this avatar then go "k good nuff"

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:34
Aww. I like playing with you fine so far.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:34
Not always, but yeah, they do. I agree on the "meh" at least.

Your face is meh

Monstrman 1 schema 0

dicetosser1
12-19-2016, 05:35
Blue is for district voting, not green.

spammit!


vote dice

vote cass

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:36
Aww. I like playing with you fine so far.

<3

I have had some very bad experiences playing this game, many of which are due to my own inability to control my emotions when playing it

I have been trying to remove them from play which is a big reason why it doesn't always translate well

How do you measure a feeling

atheotes
12-19-2016, 05:37
The only one of these I've seen reasons for is me, and Im not so impressed with that one. Reasons for your other reads please, particularly GH, Monty, Jabbz, Zack.
is it because it is against you? :grin:
Most of these are tonal reads.
I already FOSed GH.
I dont like Monty's posts. i think he is coming from TMI. i am sure i have already stated that.
Jabbz looks like townie mindset. I made a post abt it.
Zack is only a slight villa lean based on tone.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:38
is it because it is against you? :grin:
Most of these are tonal reads.
I already FOSed GH.
I dont like Monty's posts. i think he is coming from TMI. i am sure i have already stated that.
Jabbz looks like townie mindset. I made a post abt it.
Zack is only a slight villa lean based on tone.

Hello friend

This post is to make you aware of my existence

Well that was it bye

(It's supposed to be funny but it's okay if you don't laugh)

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 05:39
i don't read as either wolf or villager

:smug:

Normally this would be a town post, but here it's a scum post. Because you're scum.

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:39
Your face is meh

Monstrman 1 schema 0

I lol'd.

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:43
is it because it is against you? :grin:
Most of these are tonal reads.
I already FOSed GH.
I dont like Monty's posts. i think he is coming from TMI. i am sure i have already stated that.
Jabbz looks like townie mindset. I made a post abt it.
Zack is only a slight villa lean based on tone.

i like the attitude in the first line

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:44
Won't vote for the monstr today.

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:44
Hey, I just wanted a reply and got it. :bow:

I've got some reading back to do.

Visor, what do you make of GH this game?

:shrug:

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:45
Won't vote for the monstr today.

Decidedly villagery because I don't feel like this is a pocket

Also you laughed at my joke so we're best friends now

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:45
He's not obvious townie GH. I don't mind his vote though.

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:50
He's not obvious townie GH. I don't mind his vote though.

I'll take that I guess.

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:50
Vote: Schema

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:51
Monstrman and schema will be the avatarless avengers

Idk what we're avenging but these are the sacrifices you must make for alliteration

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:51
monstr are you drunk?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:51
Vote: Schema

but he's my best friend

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:52
monstr are you drunk?

No I'm just tired of the competition

I mean, probably a villagery question for reasons that don't make sense even to me tho

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:52
she?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:52
she?

but she's my best friend

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:53
she?

sells seashells by the seashore

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:53
No I'm just tired of the competition

I mean, probably a villagery question for reasons that don't make sense even to me tho

nah wolves love liquor

i was just throwing baseless shade at you

Dp101
12-19-2016, 05:53
Hello friend

This post is to make you aware of my existence

Well that was it bye

(It's supposed to be funny but it's okay if you don't laugh)

Don't worry, I laughed.

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 05:54
TALLY #3


<tbody>

Blue
Green
Red


DISTRICT ONE
Rep
Chancellor
Lynch


Schema

Cass



Cuthillius
Cuthilius
Zack
Visor


Renata
Dp101
Cass
Jabbz


Choxorn

Zack



Dp101
Cuth
GH
Sooh


Jabbz
Dp101
Cass
Zack


dicetosser1
Dicetosser1
Cass
Montmorency


DISTRICT TWO





Winston Hughes
Visor
Winston
El barto


BSmith





Visor
Visor
Visor
Sooh


Csargo
Winston
Monty
Sooh


Riedquat
Visor
Visor
Visor


El Barto
El Barto
El Barto
Winston Hughes


Monstrbro
Visor
Visor
Monty


DISTRICT THREE





Montmorency
GH
Cass
Visor


Al Sipsclar





Sooh

Sooh
Zack


Cass_


El barto


GeneralHankerchief
GH
Zack
Sooh


Zack
Zack
Zack
Jabbz


atheotes
Zack
Cass
El barto

</tbody>


Prospects for Rep elections:

District 3
Zack[2] - Jabbz
GH[2] - Sooh
District 2
Visor[4] - Sooh
District 1
Cuth[2] - Visor
Dp10[2] - Sooh



So people, at this rate Sooh is the lynch. Are you sure this is what you really really want?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:54
nah wolves love liquor

i was just throwing baseless shade at you

SO YOU ADMIT IT

OMEGA VOTE: ZACK

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:54
is it because it is against you? :grin:
Most of these are tonal reads.
I already FOSed GH.
I dont like Monty's posts. i think he is coming from TMI. i am sure i have already stated that.
Jabbz looks like townie mindset. I made a post abt it.
Zack is only a slight villa lean based on tone.

That has a lot to do with it, my dubious friend. :) I'll check on the rest of your comment when I'm consious.

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:55
oh i thought the d1 lynch was just going to be normal

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:55
Don't worry, I laughed.

As long as someone laughs we all win imo

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:55
oh and more than one person is voting cass for chancellor, obvious wolf ldo

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:55
So people, at this rate Sooh is the lynch. Are you sure this is what you really really want?

Spice Girls fan?

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:56
SO YOU ADMIT IT

OMEGA VOTE: ZACK

walterwhitesheepishwolfclaim.gif

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:56
TALLY #3


<tbody>

Blue
Green
Red


DISTRICT ONE
Rep
Chancellor
Lynch


Schema

Cass



Cuthillius
Cuthilius
Zack
Visor


Renata
Dp101
Cass
Jabbz


Choxorn

Zack



Dp101
Cuth
GH
Sooh


Jabbz
Dp101
Cass
Zack


dicetosser1
Dicetosser1
Cass
Montmorency


DISTRICT TWO





Winston Hughes
Visor
Winston
El barto


BSmith





Visor
Visor
Visor
Sooh


Csargo
Winston
Monty
Sooh


Riedquat
Visor
Visor
Visor


El Barto
El Barto
El Barto
Winston Hughes


Monstrbro
Visor
Visor
Monty


DISTRICT THREE





Montmorency
GH
Cass
Visor


Al Sipsclar





Sooh

Sooh
Zack


Cass_


El barto


GeneralHankerchief
GH
Zack
Sooh


Zack
Zack
Zack
Jabbz


atheotes
Zack
Cass
El barto

</tbody>


Prospects for Rep elections:

District 3
Zack[2] - Jabbz
GH[2] - Sooh
District 2
Visor[4] - Sooh
District 1
Cuth[2] - Visor
Dp10[2] - Sooh



So people, at this rate Sooh is the lynch. Are you sure this is what you really really want?

This is so handy I want to keep you alive just to keep making them

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:56
oh and more than one person is voting cass for chancellor, obvious wolf ldo

What's ldo?

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:56
like duh obviously

Schema
12-19-2016, 05:57
Vote: Schema

Ehehehe.

Hombre.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 05:57
like duh obviously

The fun part about answering that question is that you get to use it again, properly

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 05:57
Spice Girls fan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir1sVy9JLyo

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:58
I agree that sooh doing literally nothing but wolfy mechanics talk is nordic actors gyrating loudly, but iirc she always looks meh as a villager early on

but i don't think i've seen her wolf

so in conclusion i have nothing particularly interesting to say

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 05:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir1sVy9JLyo

Oops, wrong one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmkT8YU4jH8

Renata
12-19-2016, 05:59
like duh obviously

Awesome.

Visor
12-19-2016, 05:59
okay, i hated the gut feeling of schemas long wordy posts

but i think they will be part of her game anyway (but i want it noted they were bad and she should feel accordingly)

she improved tonally.

I want to give her another day, slight lean town, will have a much better read on her by end of day 2 I think

Zack
12-19-2016, 05:59
also lolcuth for his whole sequence

i think it's actually a bad look for him to come in townreading me and voting me chancellor

i'd expect villager cuth to come in jizzing his pants to voting me and calling me a wolf based on nothing

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:00
Vote: Sooh

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:00
also lolcuth for his whole sequence

i think it's actually a bad look for him to come in townreading me and voting me chancellor

i'd expect villager cuth to come in jizzing his pants to voting me and calling me a wolf based on nothing

what recent game was it that he came in with a hard on for me d1?

Schema
12-19-2016, 06:00
Vote: Schema

Mmkay let's talk.

Do you think Sooh is scum? Y/n? And if you've been holding that consistent read, what changed other than my late game appearance to sway your vote?

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:01
okay, i hated the gut feeling of schemas long wordy posts

but i think they will be part of her game anyway (but i want it noted they were bad and she should feel accordingly)

she improved tonally.

I want to give her another day, slight lean town, will have a much better read on her by end of day 2 I think

i don't even remember what they said

i was sorta skimming the thread during the cowboys game

i'm not going to go back and look because i feel really lazy and just want to sorta cooly shitpost

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:01
what recent game was it that he came in with a hard on for me d1?

mountainous?

he also never pushed me there iirc

i like your leading question and the thoughts it has inspired in me

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:03
one of schema or monstr needs to change their avatar

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:03
same for anyone with that default avatar

i look at avatars before usernames to quickly identify people

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:03
i don't even remember what they said

i was sorta skimming the thread during the cowboys game

i'm not going to go back and look because i feel really lazy and just want to sorta cooly shitpost
https://i.imgur.com/4MmX4zh.gif

mountainous?

he also never pushed me there iirc

i like your leading question and the thoughts it has inspired in me

hmm, he WAS a wolf there

idk if that was the game i was thinking of

but if sooh is a wolf it wouldn't surprise me if cuth was one

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:04
I agree that sooh doing literally nothing but wolfy mechanics talk is nordic actors gyrating loudly, but iirc she always looks meh as a villager early on

but i don't think i've seen her wolf

so in conclusion i have nothing particularly interesting to say

19269

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:04
Those both ended up shitty and I'm sorry

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:05
is there a connection between sooh and cuth?

oh your question was genuine lmao i thought you were trying to reinforce that point wrt behavioral patterns on who he pushes

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:05
one of schema or monstr needs to change their avatar

I WILL NEVER CONFORM TO YOUR STANDARDS OF PLAY

AVATARLESS FOR LYFE

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:05
Visor, your voting is escalating in malevolence.

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:05
Those both ended up shitty and I'm sorry

directly link the image using [img] tags

don't reference it locally

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:06
is there a connection between sooh and cuth?

oh your question was genuine lmao i thought you were trying to reinforce that point wrt behavioral patterns on who he pushes

i just don't know why he has a hard on for pushing me d1 lol

none really, just that cuth would (for some reason) decide the best course of action is to discredit me if i am pushing a bro

similar to what he did with wytch

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:06
Visor, your voting is escalating in malevolence.

he is back to voting sooh, how is that escalating? it's exactly where he started

atheotes
12-19-2016, 06:06
If it makes you feel better, I often get thought of as scum early. My approach to the game is different, as I was first exposed to Mafia as an in person game with a group of college speech and debate folks, so the style was different in the extreme. Towards the end of the game I just end up being hyper defensive, and still thought of as scum :P I'm pretty much used to that flow at this point, and am resigned to looking scummy, so I just do my best to hunt, and when I die, with luck, my arguments get some extra credibility and are used to find some wolves.

You must be from a parallel universe! :laugh4:
Though you are a lot more proficient in penning your thoughts!

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:06
I WILL NEVER CONFORM TO YOUR STANDARDS OF PLAY

AVATARLESS FOR LYFE

monstrman you ignorant slut

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:07
Visor, your voting is escalating in malevolence.

monty

for the love of god

tell me what is wrong with what i am doing

GeneralHankerchief
12-19-2016, 06:07
I imagine this is all going to be really interesting to read for the first time when I go back and ISO people in a couple of phases.

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:07
Mmkay let's talk.

Do you think Sooh is scum? Y/n? And if you've been holding that consistent read, what changed other than my late game appearance to sway your vote?

i just voted you for a reaction

Schema
12-19-2016, 06:07
one of schema or monstr needs to change their avatar

In the morning. Think mode engaged.

Gn all.

Also I forgive you Visor dw. But it might be too Sooh to celebrate a scum lynch. Think I need to count actual # of votes on this slot and when they happened, from whom.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:08
https://i.imgur.com/3ONxeYa.png

Yay I did it I showed basic Internet competency!

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:08
I imagine this is all going to be really interesting to read for the first time when I go back and ISO people in a couple of phases.

I imagine this is all going to be really interesting to read for the first time when I finally get suspected and have to pretend to do work

is that what you meant?

Schema
12-19-2016, 06:08
i just voted you for a reaction

Call me fluorine.

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:08
i just don't know why he has a hard on for pushing me d1 lol

none really, just that cuth would (for some reason) decide the best course of action is to discredit me if i am pushing a bro

similar to what he did with wytch
well i also think that he imagines he can pocket me much easier than you

also when he's town he gets a hero complex wrt lynching me that obviously he isn't going to feel as strongly about when he's not actually looking to lynch wolves

HMM

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:08
In the morning. Think mode engaged.

Gn all.

Also I forgive you Visor dw. But it might be too Sooh to celebrate a scum lynch. Think I need to count actual # of votes on this slot and when they happened, from whom.

:stare:

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:09
i just voted you for a reaction

kek

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:09
monstrman you ignorant slut

You're half right

but which half? :O

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:09
monty

for the love of god

tell me what is wrong with what i am doing

Nothing now, but it's not as though the game started 5 hours ago. Actions take place in context.

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:09
my lynch votes are always looking for a reaction in the sense that i hope the reaction is their death

Schema
12-19-2016, 06:09
Visor, your voting is escalating in malevolence.

This is interesting. Noted.

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:09
Call me fluorine.

:stare::stare:

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:10
Nothing now, but it's not as though the game started 5 hours ago. Actions take place in context.
this vaguely reminds me of some nonsense you were spouting in the last game about me and gh (i think?)

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:11
this vaguely reminds me of some nonsense you were spouting in the last game about me and gh (i think?)

I never connected you and GH. I don't think I even really interacted with or spoke about you.

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:12
This is interesting. Noted.

https://i.imgur.com/KxEbNkD.gif

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:13
Say no more. I'm convinced.

Vote: Zack
joke

Wait, was the the wrong color?
joke

Testing

Vote: Sooh
nothing

Oh yeah! That works!
nothing

Omg what is this Zack parade!?

Seriously!?

*barf*
er maybe something I GUESS butnah

3 districts, 1 mafia voter, 2 townie voters
3 districts, 1 town voter, 2 mafia voters
3 districts, 3 town voters
3 districts, 3 mafia voters

I don't know that I'd be able to distinguish one from the other here based on votes, but perhaps I'm missing something. Seems to me like scum would be able to easily slip under the radar in either of these configurations. What am I not seeing?

Not sure a bigger selection would be better either, I just don't really understand the sort of techniques that would be applicable to scum here.

MECHANICS

sooh p1

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:14
I never connected you and GH. I don't think I even really interacted with or spoke about you.
I was going to say "aha!" and prove you wrong, but i searched the thread and I didn't find anything

I don't know why I thought that was a thing

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:15
Thread feels boring

I'll be back after I sleep so it can get interesting again when I'm gone

Gngn everyone

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:16
:yes:
Glad you're becoming proficient at reading me.
shade on my read

:love:
shade on my vote

And I'm caught up.

Guys, please don't expect me to be here at night, or early morning, or even day or evening. Just don't expect me, that's all.

I'll attempt to make my opinions known, however with this much mechanics talk it's hard to assess who's being genuine or not. It's not hard to do mechanics talk when scum.
excuse (fair, but still an excuse)

True. You have an excuse.


Yeah, and I will attempt to reread. See if it gets me anywhere. Kind of burned out atm, so don't expect greatness on D1 please.
burnt out so perhaps fair?

Who's "he" here?

pointless

sooh p2

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:18
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss the nested quotes. At least then I would be able to find out who people were talking about.
nothing

Vote: Cass
random vote for cass for district out of nowhere

Yeah, you're right. You should probably vote her.
snark against winston shade

Nah, I'll probably talk only mechanics all game.
snark

Idk. The wall GH posted at the start of the game was something he prepared in advance as per the sign ups, so reading into that and the votes he did shortly after seems reaching to me. It's different if he doesn't substantiate his votes more or change them though.
nothing at all on gh

Idk. OPs don't really give any clues.

Fishing attempt noted though :P

joke

sooh p3

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:18
I was going to say "aha!" and prove you wrong, but i searched the thread and I didn't find anything

I don't know why I thought that was a thing

top keks

https://i.imgur.com/2BZnlmb.jpg

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:19
most of those posts you're quoting is meh who cares stuff

i think the reactions to your wolfread and vote of her are barfy tho

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:19
I was tracking the quotes and confused at how you were getting these page numbers then i realized you meant pages of her iso

Renata
12-19-2016, 06:20
You must be from a parallel universe! :laugh4:
Though you are a lot more proficient in penning your thoughts!

The thing is I never thought you were scummy last game. Even when you were suspecting me. Even when Pizza pushed on you I kept resisting and after I iso'ed you and still said you were looking like town he had to give up and find another patsy.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:20
Unvote
Vote: sooh

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:20
oh yeah i think atheotes is a pretty likely villager

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:20
How is that ever TMI? Might just as well be a claim for all I know.
nothing

Apart from the obvious "night kills inform town who the scums are afraid of" I don't know either.
nothing

I love you too, GH.
to ghs vote of sooh (or shade idr)

Monstrman, pls be town and be my friend <3
pocketing of monstr, post is arguably null

pretty sure I blued Cass.
correction of tally (but thats... it?)

but yay, El barto and I leading the lynch so far.

Happy to see you trust me enough to make me a contender for at least one of the positions today :P

joke about leading the lynch

sooh part 5 the finale

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:21
This is interesting. Noted.

i do want to nuke this post from orbit tho

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:21
oh yeah i think atheotes is a pretty likely villager

Seconded

Also I didn't go to bed

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:22
literally no post of hers in there has brought us any closer to solving the game

no reads, no opinions, no nothing

if she's burnt out, she's burnt out

but I can't see a single compelling reason in that entire ISO that says this person is a villager

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:22
that is a lot of posts saying essentially nothing

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:22
Seconded

Also I didn't go to bed

u rascal

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:23
but I can't see a single compelling reason in that entire ISO that says this person is a villager

But why should we lynch her - or anyone really - over you? No arguments to that effect as far as I see.

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:23
that is a lot of posts saying essentially nothing

a n t i s p e w

i mean she's caught up on the game at numerous times

and has zero thoughts on the state of the game or the result of anything

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:24
literally no post of hers in there has brought us any closer to solving the game

no reads, no opinions, no nothing

if she's burnt out, she's burnt out

but I can't see a single compelling reason in that entire ISO that says this person is a villager
i hear ya it's a decent case

not sure if i will follow because of ego and competing for n1 kill etc

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:24
But why should we lynch her - or anyone really - over you? No arguments to that effect as far as I see.
do you actually have an opinion on who to lynch or are you planning to just blow raspberries at visor all game?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:25
Monty's line on visor is wolfy but his persistence with it is almost villagery

Plus charts

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:25
But why should we lynch her - or anyone really - over you? No arguments to that effect as far as I see.
i can find a reason for someone to be villager for everyone else in the game

(even cuth)

but I honestly cannot say that about sooh this game

i hear ya it's a decent case

not sure if i will follow because of ego and competing for n1 kill etc

lol its the only reason i cased it :P

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:26
everyone?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:26
i can find a reason for someone to be villager for everyone else in the game

(even cuth)

but I honestly cannot say that about sooh this game


lol its the only reason i cased it :P

In my eyes this argument holds a lot of weight

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:27
do you actually have an opinion on who to lynch or are you planning to just blow raspberries at visor all game?

Visor. I have no real problem with anyone else.


i can find a reason for someone to be villager for everyone else in the game

wtf

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:27
everyone?

exaggeration for effect shush

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:28
Using hyperbole to make a point is punishable by death here, Visor

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:28
In my eyes this argument holds a lot of weight

i get lost in your eyes

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:29
Using hyperbole to make a point is punishable by death here, Visor

LITERALLY (insert dictator here)

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:29
Visor. I have no real problem with anyone else.

https://i.imgur.com/Br00TCn.gif

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:33
ok i did some research and in fact elected reps are the only votes who count today which seems kinda wonky since they haven't been elected yet but whatever and also the phase is over in like 14 hours i think

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:33
my mouse has been janky as fuck and it's tilting me

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:34
ok i did some research and in fact elected reps are the only votes who count today which seems kinda wonky since they haven't been elected yet but whatever and also the phase is over in like 14 hours i think

Yay democracy

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:35
ok i did some research and in fact elected reps are the only votes who count today which seems kinda wonky since they haven't been elected yet but whatever and also the phase is over in like 14 hours i think

The perils of not paying attention to mechanics.

So Sooh dies.

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:36
Sooh

please give me a reason not to lynch you

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:36
The perils of not paying attention to mechanics.

So Sooh dies.

ThIs feels like a very "jump the gun" kind of post

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:39
post chartsaments again?

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:41
ThIs feels like a very "jump the gun" kind of post

How so?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:43
How so?

Sooh isn't dead yet there are many hours left

Sooh also could flip wolf so..?

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:43
post chartsaments again?

If this was directed at me:

Prospects for Rep elections:

District 3
Zack[2] - Jabbz
GH[2] - Sooh
District 2
Visor[4] - Sooh
District 1
Cuth[2] - Visor
Dp10[2] - Sooh

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:45
wow is float on the only modest mouse song that isn't actual garbage?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:46
wow is float on the only modest mouse song that isn't actual garbage?

Dashboard is... okay?

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:46
wow is float on the only modest mouse song that isn't actual garbage?

Were you asking for charts on top hits or something? What does this mean?

Cass_
12-19-2016, 06:47
Nah, I'll probably talk only mechanics all game.


Idk. The wall GH posted at the start of the game was something he prepared in advance as per the sign ups, so reading into that and the votes he did shortly after seems reaching to me. It's different if he doesn't substantiate his votes more or change them though.

Sooh, talk with me?

This and the blue vote on me are the closest thing I can find in your ISO to thoughts related to other players since early game, where you red voted Zack based on (I'm guessing) the speed/earliness with which he was promoted for Chancellor?

There's also a suggestion that atheotes was role-fishing, which could have been humour/light suspicion on your part but I can't figure it out.

Most of the rest is brushing off suspicion with <3 and :P and stuff that seems off (read: ?too purposefully? aloof) to me compared to your responses in Hackers which we just finished/you were Town.

ISO'd there for comparison.
(http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&section=search&do=search&fromsearch=1)

You start off there jokey and flirty, and I initially took your digs here at the Zack train in the same tone, and they mimicked my thoughts, so ok.

But then, after that stage in Hackers you start digging in to people's posts and giving alignment-related thoughts as you go. When people push you you don't get overly defensive, but you do counter.

Here you posted that you caught up, and you voted blue for me, posted the above about GH, but you've not made reads/alignment comments. In between you get suspicion and seem to deliberately not react.

As far as I can tell, the GH read is hedging, the atheotes comment was a push and the vote on me is consensusish.

What reads do you currently have/where are you actually at?

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:48
Were you asking for charts on top hits or something? What does this mean?

no i listen to music while i play and i've noticed every modest mouse song that comes up is an instant skip because it grates on my ears

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:49
no i listen to music while i play and i've noticed every modest mouse song that comes up is an instant skip because it grates on my ears

Have you ever heard of Liquid Tension Experiment?

Cass_
12-19-2016, 06:49
Lol at Sooh being discussed this page.

Hi all, catching up.

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 06:50
no i listen to music while i play and i've noticed every modest mouse song that comes up is an instant skip because it grates on my ears

It sounds like a worse version of whatever this is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAayfya_M0&index=23&list=FLnV16lLmZdGUyvrHqSwjkcQ).

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:51
Lol at Sooh being discussed this page.

Hi all, catching up.

Either this is the greatest coordinated wolf push of all time or we have a bunch of villagers that want to lynch sooh

I think combined with her posts the odds she flips wolf are kinda good actually. Tbh in this setting I'm not sure many wolves would be comfortable taking on the role of rep and leading mislynches

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:51
Have you ever heard of Liquid Tension Experiment?

nope

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:51
It sounds like a worse version of whatever this is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAayfya_M0&index=23&list=FLnV16lLmZdGUyvrHqSwjkcQ).

i don't mind arctic monkeys

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:52
nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmo1VW_wA_o

Cass_
12-19-2016, 06:54
ZACK! ZACK! ZACK! ZACK! ZACK! ZACK!

Zack?

TWTBAW?



How could anyone be too wolfy to be a wolf by page 2?

All I saw was a bunch of people electing Zack chancellor

Bold is pretty much what my comment was about. More a comment on that than Zack's actual play.

ZACK! ZACK! etc is me mimicking the ?sheepy?unfounded push for him towards Chancellor at that point.

The ? is because I wondered what it could mean for his alignment and if it was scummy.

The TWTBAW is cos I rationalised that it's probably unlikely that Scum push one of their own towards Chancellor so hard so early.

(? right?)

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmo1VW_wA_o

not really my thing but it seemed more eclectic than bad

Cass_
12-19-2016, 06:55
i don't mind arctic monkeys

LOVE THEM <3

Sooh
12-19-2016, 06:56
Sooh

please give me a reason not to lynch you
I am a town PR, so thanks for the pushes and making me claim on D1.

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:56
Bold is pretty much what my comment was about. More a comment on that than Zack's actual play.

ZACK! ZACK! etc is me mimicking the ?sheepy?unfounded push for him towards Chancellor at that point.

The ? is because I wondered what it could mean for his alignment and if it was scummy.

The TWTBAW is cos I rationalised that it's probably unlikely that Scum push one of their own towards Chancellor so hard so early.

(? right?)

I still don't really get why anyone thinks that would be alignment-indicative

Zack
12-19-2016, 06:57
I am a town PR, so thanks for the pushes and making me claim on D1.

lol

Visor
12-19-2016, 06:58
well if you... you know... said anything about the game

maybe i wouldn't be pushing you?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:58
Sooh all I wanted was reads

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 06:59
not really my thing but it seemed more eclectic than bad

I love that kind of music

Anything fast paced I need good drums in my music or I don't really like it that much (or at least it won't be my favorite)

Sooh
12-19-2016, 06:59
well if you... you know... said anything about the game

maybe i wouldn't be pushing you?

Yup. I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY ONE this game who hasn't said much.

Whatever. Even if you find another lynch candidate I'll be dead tomorrow, so.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:00
Yup. I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY ONE this game who hasn't said much.

Whatever. Even if you find another lynch candidate I'll be dead tomorrow, so.

Visor has double vote power and also the chancellor decides ties

Stop jumping the gun guys

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:00
Either this is the greatest coordinated wolf push of all time or we have a bunch of villagers that want to lynch sooh

I think combined with her posts the odds she flips wolf are kinda good actually. Tbh in this setting I'm not sure many wolves would be comfortable taking on the role of rep and leading mislynches

Thought that she could be wolf is there, but I'm not willing to speed to a lynch on her yet. Wanna see what she comes back with.

She's got RL stuff to deal with and her 'don't expect me' posts were ok in that sense.

In Hackers she ended up Town even though she grated me the wrong way on early skim through cos it felt like she was avoiding content early. When I sat down and actually went through her ISO and the digging-in posts she got to, she was pretty clearly Town.

I want to make sure there's a definite difference/see her content thoughts and go from there.

Sooh
12-19-2016, 07:01
Sooh all I wanted was reads

I can't keep up when this game is going so fast. It's just how it is. Given a day or two after school ends for the year on Wednesday I might have proven it to you, but nope.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:01
Like you'll probably die tonight but chimone sooh

Let's just play an Internet yelling game but replace the yelling with laughing

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:02
I can't keep up when this game is going so fast. It's just how it is. Given a day or two after school ends for the year on Wednesday I might have proven it to you, but nope.

I love you still <3

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:03
Thought that she could be wolf is there, but I'm not willing to speed to a lynch on her yet. Wanna see what she comes back with.

She's got RL stuff to deal with and her 'don't expect me' posts were ok in that sense.

In Hackers she ended up Town even though she grated me the wrong way on early skim through cos it felt like she was avoiding content early. When I sat down and actually went through her ISO and the digging-in posts she got to, she was pretty clearly Town.

I want to make sure there's a definite difference/see her content thoughts and go from there.

She's prolly town tbh

Visor
12-19-2016, 07:03
well, if you were going to claim, earlier is better than later

though i think even trying to do something related to the game instead of relying on a claim would've been better

whatever

time to do some more digging, tonight i think

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:04
I still don't really get why anyone thinks that would be alignment-indicative

I can understand the skin-crawl tbh. I had it. Still shaky on it. Not sure what it means.

Doesn't need dissecting cos probably early tinfoilparanoia, but there's possibility that it's scum-led/initiated somehow.

Need to ISO you actually.

What do you make of GH's ISO/play (haven't got there yet either).

Sooh
12-19-2016, 07:04
well, if you were going to claim, earlier is better than later

though i think even trying to do something related to the game instead of relying on a claim would've been better

whatever

time to do some more digging, tonight i think
Well I have to go to work in 20 mins, so there's that. Also it's the org, and votes tend to move slowly.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:05
Hey Cass what's your read of schema?

Zack
12-19-2016, 07:05
I can understand the skin-crawl tbh. I had it. Still shaky on it. Not sure what it means.

Doesn't need dissecting cos probably early tinfoilparanoia, but there's possibility that it's scum-led/initiated somehow.

Need to ISO you actually.

What do you make of GH's ISO/play (haven't got there yet either).

i don't really make anything of it

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:06
Well I have to go to work in 20 mins, so there's that. Also it's the org, and votes tend to move slowly.

But it's the org with monstrman now and I promise [/i]I won't let you die.[/i] Yet.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:06
i don't really make anything of it

I make a sandwich of it because I am very hungry

Visor
12-19-2016, 07:06
Well I have to go to work in 20 mins, so there's that. Also it's the org, and votes tend to move slowly.

only have to change 3 votes today

Zack
12-19-2016, 07:08
i instinctively hate generic pr claims like that especially combined with the passive-aggressive sentiment

but wolves are usually big cowards who claim vt

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:08
vote cass

shes thinking already. I can see the wheels turning.
cass You are going to get too wrapped up in this game I can see it a mile off. No posting after 10pm or I start dobbing to ure better half




+1 town dice points for a post that reminds me of one he made the last game we played together

Cass on the rest of this page improves slightly, but I'd still like to see you answer my question tho cause I am very confused by it

I doubt these two are wolves together regardless because I don't think wolf dice makes the bold "elect a wolf chancellor d1" play

I wanted to comment on this actually.

@ Dice, did wheels turning and the vote mean that you were reading me Town there?

Also - Cop, Doc, Vig?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:08
I also like that I am a member member

Yay undertitles

Zack
12-19-2016, 07:09
I also like that I am a member member

Yay undertitles

you can change it

Sooh
12-19-2016, 07:09
only have to change 3 votes today

Fine. If you want to blame me for claiming early, go ahead.

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:10
Hey Cass what's your read of schema?

Absolutely don't have one, still catching up, don't remember anything they've said?

Will add it to top of list to get to after that, unless it's urgent?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:10
you can change it

I just said I like it

WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING ME CHANGE THINGS

Zack
12-19-2016, 07:11
Fine. If you want to blame me for claiming early, go ahead.
this attitude is really obnoxious

it's a mafia game these things happen stop being so goddamn salty about it and play

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:11
Fine. If you want to blame me for claiming early, go ahead.

Sooh, can you chuck out reads pls?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:11
Absolutely don't have one, still catching up, don't remember anything they've said?

Will add it to top of list to get to after that, unless it's urgent?

Nope just curiosity to sate my ever growing view of the thread

And also because I want to know if you see what I see or what I don't see

Sooh
12-19-2016, 07:12
Sooh, can you chuck out reads pls?

No, I can't, because I haven't read the last three pages and I have to go to work.

Also, Zack, you can just go ahead and lynch me. Pretty much done.

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:13
No, I can't, because I haven't read the last three pages and I have to go to work.

Also, Zack, you can just go ahead and lynch me. Pretty much done.

Mafia is such a horrible game

Every time I play I'm like "I know how to fix it" but alas

It is unfixable

Zack
12-19-2016, 07:13
:rolleyes: x 1000

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:14
It can only be played as it is

The skeptic-view fostering emotion-charging argumentative internet yelling game that it is

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:17
No, I can't, because I haven't read the last three pages and I have to go to work.

Also, Zack, you can just go ahead and lynch me. Pretty much done.

I'll give you ....

https://media1.giphy.com/media/r4NFWBPT6ksyQ/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/5xaOcLHAmsHsbvUtVYs/giphy.gif

?

Going to work, ok. Not giving reads because behind 3 pages is meh.

In Hackers you commented as you went afaict so this is a direct contradiction.

Why on Earth would you let us lynch you/not contribute the thoughts you have as a Town PR?

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:18
It can only be played as it is

The skeptic-view fostering emotion-charging argumentative internet yelling game that it is

But with kitties and <3 between frands.

We can dooooooooooo eeeeeeeeet

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:20
But with kitties and <3 between frands.

We can dooooooooooo eeeeeeeeet

But there is mountains of evidence that we can't

I guess we can try

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:22
What are the odds that the entire wolfteam hasn't read the entire thread yet

Zack
12-19-2016, 07:22
actually now that i think about it

this isn't how sooh acted at all when things didn't go her way in heroes (as town)

meh i hate how you popped in here and i don't know what to make of it wrt your alignment

i'm not sure if i just dislike it because it's annoying or because it's wolfy

in any case it's probably not worth lynching a potential PR d1

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:24
It would be a list that includes (when taking reads into account) maybe six players, three of which have posted twice or less yikes

Dp101
12-19-2016, 07:32
I just… I dunno. Both Visor and Zack are giving off very similar vibes, both feel like they are playing the role of the pushy experienced one, and both of them are either uber town or uber wolf depending on which way my confirmation bias is heading while reading them. It just feels like both of them are doing Pizza-style wolfing, but the problem is that that school of wolfing is what town does. I just don't know, and feel like venting my frustration.

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:35
Thoughts on rest of pg 5/10 for me



Well, Dp had not yet posted when you voted him as rep. TMI?


I'm going to say it one more time. My criteria for voting someone for representative was, primarily, to put someone in there I thought I would be able to read, if they were town. Dp fits that criteria better than anyone else in my group, so I voted for him. He has since posted in ways that make me comfortable with that choice as being someone who actually is town. Do you get it now?


its the way you phrased it. I read it as "being able to read AND being your town read", which was not possible when you voted. Its something that pinged me. I was hoping to get a second opinion. Nothing more for you to explain on this. I will just keep you in my suspect list for now :bow:

Understand both theses PoVs.

Had the same reaction as atheotes initially, read Renata's response to me several times to see if it could come from Town and found I could accept it.

Liked/mindmelded with lots of atheotes early thoughts so leaning him light gut Town for that until I look closer.

Renata trended up for me in tone and responses/questioning widely etc. Gonna be a tricky one for me cos she spooked me early. Think we may have similar paranoia take on game in general.


These two both stood out as kind of shallow justification and possible picking on easy fruit but ?just more direct playstyle?



Rereading El Barto, I'm content with my vote.

Defence by meta doesn't wash.

Need to see some actual townie intent, beyond the self preservation.



This is the kind of reaction/defense post I don't like.

Vote: Sooh

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:37
I just… I dunno. Both Visor and Zack are giving off very similar vibes, both feel like they are playing the role of the pushy experienced one, and both of them are either uber town or uber wolf depending on which way my confirmation bias is heading while reading them. It just feels like both of them are doing Pizza-style wolfing, but the problem is that that school of wolfing is what town does. I just don't know, and feel like venting my frustration.

https://i.imgur.com/QhoOKQp.gif

I agree tho

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 07:38
https://i.imgur.com/QhoOKQp.gif

I agree tho

BUT

They're probably both villagers so I've been rolling with it

Cass_
12-19-2016, 07:46
Dp
Visor
Dice
Cass
Renata probably

Villager list of people that are town friends yay

No strong scum suspects yet

QUOTE=Monstrbro;2053729136]A few posts back have had some tone I don't like but this post prolly enough for me to

vote: montmorency

Prolly gone for a while now not sure if I'll make EoD this started at at really hectic time in my life

I'll be around more later tonight if I haven't missed anything

Playing on my phone and skimming because my compuser is broken so idk exactly when deadline is but I'll try to be back[/QUOTE]


Town-hunting is something Monstr does as Town. Not sure about his scum-game.
Mindmeld on the expressed thoughts to here and can ooook those he lists as possi-villagers but lolparanoia want to really catch up on them first.

Lolparanoia included Dice doesn't Town read me early, and you questioned his early GH vote immediately prior to this, why's he Town?


Gonna focus on catching up ITT. Have about 5 mins before family come home and then mafia playing is out-of-bounds until late tonight.

atheotes
12-19-2016, 08:00
@atheotes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23809)

Do you want this to be the uniform strategy throughout the game?

This is my thinking right now. it will change on further information and game state.
Why do i feel this is a redundant question?

Zack
12-19-2016, 08:04
cass i assume that was a quote break so you should make a new vote unless you want to vote monty

Jabbz
12-19-2016, 08:17
i don't even understand what you are talking about in your first paragraph

your second is pretty rich

This is just a continuation of your non-engagement with my posts. You do a good job here of making my point, so thank you. Since you no longer appear to have anything valid to say, and when you address my comments it's to belittle them and ignore the content (which you can't counter) I'm going to move on. Barring someone else doing something really strange, I'm pretty sure my vote will stay on you, and I'll be encouraging others to follow. Gday.

Jabbz
12-19-2016, 08:18
Only on post 490 for the moment, but not sure i'll get through all of them tonight, so wanted to drop a line about Dp and Winston.

I went back and refreshed myself on my last game with both of them. Dp, out of the box I have to apologize, I had you confused with Psilly, which is quite rude of me given how... off... that fellow is. I have to look back at things with a new perspective, but you're not the flaky, squirrel chasing guy I thought you were. That makes me feel a little less confident in my read. That shouldn't be read as I think you're scummy, just that I don't know if you're towny. I think that makes sense.

On Winston, his play seems fairly consistent to what I saw in the last game. For context, I was scum and he was one of two villagers I chose to pick on throughout the game, so I had a lot of interaction with him. This gives him pretty solid town cred for me, based on d1 contributions.

Going back to reading now.

Dp101
12-19-2016, 08:24
Only on post 490 for the moment, but not sure i'll get through all of them tonight, so wanted to drop a line about Dp and Winston.

I went back and refreshed myself on my last game with both of them. Dp, out of the box I have to apologize, I had you confused with Psilly, which is quite rude of me given how... off... that fellow is. I have to look back at things with a new perspective, but you're not the flaky, squirrel chasing guy I thought you were. That makes me feel a little less confident in my read. That shouldn't be read as I think you're scummy, just that I don't know if you're towny. I think that makes sense.

On Winston, his play seems fairly consistent to what I saw in the last game. For context, I was scum and he was one of two villagers I chose to pick on throughout the game, so I had a lot of interaction with him. This gives him pretty solid town cred for me, based on d1 contributions.

Going back to reading now.
Jabbz don't worry, what you saw was my mafia game. My games here as town have actually been very similar to how Psilly plays, so despite being mistaken you were 100% correct.

Zack
12-19-2016, 08:25
This is just a continuation of your non-engagement with my posts. You do a good job here of making my point, so thank you. Since you no longer appear to have anything valid to say, and when you address my comments it's to belittle them and ignore the content (which you can't counter) I'm going to move on. Barring someone else doing something really strange, I'm pretty sure my vote will stay on you, and I'll be encouraging others to follow. Gday.

congratulations for finding a convenient reason to not progress your reads, make any new ones, and still ignore me asking what your thoughts on current wagons are

Jabbz
12-19-2016, 08:31
You must be from a parallel universe! :laugh4:
Though you are a lot more proficient in penning your thoughts!

Chalk it up to 3 years competing in and 5 years coaching in college speech and debate added to a BA in Communication Studies and an (almost! one semester left!) MA in Communication Education. Having a BA in BS is usefull for these types of games :P

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 08:34
Chalk it up to 3 years competing in and 5 years coaching in college speech and debate added to a BA in Communication Studies and an (almost! one semester left!) MA in Communication Education. Having a BA in BS is usefull for these types of games :P

*Uses a copious amount of chalk to vigorously inscribe this information*

Montmorency
12-19-2016, 08:38
Chalk it up to 3 years competing in and 5 years coaching in college speech and debate added to a BA in Communication Studies and an (almost! one semester left!) MA in Communication Education. Having a BA in BS is usefull for these types of games :P

You might like our Seamus Fermanagh. He's a Communications professor or sommat, though he seems to have retired from Mafia.

Jabbz
12-19-2016, 08:38
Valid observation, and amusing the rest of us missed it. Perhaps our votes for rep goes through first, then their vote for lynch is tallied?

Cuthillius
12-19-2016, 08:43
Still seven pages from caught up. My own fault, whatever, I'll get there. Also I'm incredibly rusty and haven't played in months, so bear with me as I get up to speed on all the players.

Don't feel too comfortable wrt Mont, Renata, Winston. I'm considering all their posts and any arguments made toward them and a lynch that direction. Feel pretty good about Cass and dice.

First, Cass is just solvey, engaging everyone, asking hard questions. I'm happy with her game play and her follow-through, she seems committed.

I believe I've played with dice before on PerC and idk, I'm getting town vibes from over there this game. Tonally on point, if nothing else.

Okay, few more pages to go. BBL.

you get -points right away for having three scum and fishing for lynches while doing one hardish town read and one soft one

Dp101
12-19-2016, 08:46
you get -points right away for having three scum and fishing for lynches while doing one hardish town read and one soft one

Not disagreeing or agreeing, just wondering, what about that do you dislike?

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 08:48
you get -points right away for having three scum and fishing for lynches while doing one hardish town read and one soft one

#ruleofthrees

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 08:49
Not disagreeing or agreeing, just wondering, what about that do you dislike?

In a totally not made up statistic, scum are most likely to throw out three names (one of which is prolly their scumbro)

Jabbz
12-19-2016, 08:51
Yup. I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY ONE this game who hasn't said much.

Whatever. Even if you find another lynch candidate I'll be dead tomorrow, so.

If you are so sure you are going to be lynched, then any reads you have are useful to town. While we won't trust your judgement necessarily, at least we can trust your perspective to be townish, and your words would be the only unimpeachable ones in game. Gives us what you can, and I will be grateful, even if no one else is (which I doubt would be the case).

Monstrdude
12-19-2016, 08:52
If you are so sure you are going to be lynched, then any reads you have are useful to town. While we won't trust your judgement necessarily, at least we can trust your perspective to be townish, and your words would be the only unimpeachable ones in game. Gives us what you can, and I will be grateful, even if no one else is (which I doubt would be the case).

Villagey

Cuthillius
12-19-2016, 08:52
also lolcuth for his whole sequence

i think it's actually a bad look for him to come in townreading me and voting me chancellor

i'd expect villager cuth to come in jizzing his pants to voting me and calling me a wolf based on nothing

i'm sorry you have an ego :P

Jabbz
12-19-2016, 08:52
congratulations for finding a convenient reason to not progress your reads, make any new ones, and still ignore me asking what your thoughts on current wagons are

Yeah, sure Zack, I'm using your hounding of me to avoid putting out the town and scum reads I already have to date. I get I misread you dude, but you need to get over yourself when it comes to me, you're just being an ass, and I'm pretty sure it's not contributing anything useful. Cheers.

Cuthillius
12-19-2016, 08:52
what recent game was it that he came in with a hard on for me d1?

oh, was that the hydra game?