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Sigurd
03-08-2010, 02:08
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Return of the Sith




The Wheel of Time turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
These are words famous, but true nevertheless in the universe we find ourselves in.

The Age of great Jedi Masters wielding immense power is forgotten. Yet the order of the Jedi never died. It survived its destruction in a time of purging and persecution by a secular Empire. The remains were one single hero who after causing the downfall of the same Empire, organized the destroyed remnants of a dying order into a new order.
Much knowledge and lore were lost under the Empire’s merciless hand and the Empire’s destruction of all Jedi temples.
The new order had little and knew little, yet they grew to become an order of strength in the recovering galaxy.

The new order of the Jedi was secular like the Empire before them. Most of the galaxy were secularly purged by the Empire and was devoid of religion. Since the downfall of the Empire, religion was but a tiny minority in the great new Republic.
The Jedi was an order of warriors and held on to some tradition. The plasma blade contained in a force field was their weapon of choice, and wielding one was synonymous with being a Jedi. Great skill and long hours of practice was needed to become a master of such a dangerous weapon. Dexterity was a much needed skill to wield such a weapon and only the best of Padawans were allowed to train with it.
After proving that they could masterfully wield a lightsaber, by “hold one’s own” against a full Jedi Knight in a tournament, they could be raised to the level of Knight.

Because of the lack of knowledge and lore from earlier Jedi epochs, the new order of the Jedi invested much time and resources to yet again become an order of knowledge and wisdom. They became great scientists and explorers. The outer parts of the galaxy were always a mystery to any historian and the Jedi order sent out countless expedition teams to chart the unknown.

During one of these expeditions, a team of a few Jedi makes a discovery.




https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/ImperialStarDestroyer2.png



They return to the Jedi headquarters with news of this discovery and the high council of the Jedi decides to send out a larger group to recover this ship. A group consisting of mixed Jedi order members is sent as a bare-bone crew to see if they can power this monstrosity up and bring it back to the order for further investigations.

That crew is you…


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Will you be able to perform this commission?

Rules are – few…

The game will be divided into two phases per round. A day phase where everybody participates and a night phase where very few participate.
What the particulars are will be revealed in due time.

I am aiming for a game that could become a classic, a game that even after being played once could be played again without too many changes.
As with the Midgard games, I strive to innovate. That is true for this game as well.

40 characters are ready for grabs, will you be one of them?

Sign up people!!!


Said they would play the game: [32/40]
Confirmed / Unconfirmed

01. Andres
02. Askthepizzaguy
03. atheotes
04. autolycus
05. Beefy187
06. Belisarius II
07. Beskar
08. Centurion1
09. Chaotix
10. TinCow
11. GeneralHankerchief
12. Husar
13. Ibn-Khaldun
14. johnhughthom
15. Lord Winter
16. Psychonaut
17. Sasaki Kojiro
18. Secura
19. Subotan
20. TheFlax
21. White_eyes:D
22. Winston Hughes
23. Yaseikhaan
24. Captain Blackadder
25. Kagemusha
26. Renata
27. Thermal Mercury
28. pevergreen
29. Diana Abnoba
30. Joooray
31. Yaropolk
32. Greyblades
33. Csargo
34. Khazaar
35. Jolt
36. Niklas
37. A Very Super Marked (AVSM)
38. a completely inoffensive name (ACIN)
39. Methos
40. Diamondeye

Replacements:
1. YLC
2. Choxorn
3. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
4. Zack

Sigurd
04-07-2010, 13:00
The new commercial:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VfPLudHnh8&feature=player_embedded

Sigurd
04-12-2010, 02:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eegD3IHCM10








Round 1

Night 1


You have reached the destination of the assumed to be Imperial Star Destroyer which floats in the space ahead of you. Only a few of the Emergency lights are ablaze along its 1600 yard hull side.

It is a beautiful craft and you can’t wait to board it and search it. Once, this craft was a formidable force to be reckoned during the ancient Empire. It had great firepower and sorry was the ship that came to oppose it during its days of glory.

You have been told that a special envoy from the Jedi Council on Coruscant is present among you, but you don’t know who he is or why he is here. You only know what you have been told – and that is that he is the leader of this expedition.

Your boarding craft is getting nearer and you are truly amazed at the grand size of this Star Destroyer.
What craftsmanship these ancient ship builders possessed.

The size of the hangar bay, as you continue underneath the ship, is impressive to say the least. You stand at the windows and gape at the dimly lit and massive hangar bay as your boarding craft settles down gently on the hangar deck.

There is a call over the intercom about getting yourselves ready to board the Star Destroyer and you all scramble for the boarding chamber.

A few of the Jedi Knights ease themselves out of the boarding craft with lightsabers blazing in green, blue and purple hues. When you approached the Star Destroyer, it was devoid of life according to scans – you are told now as you carefully follow the others down the gangplank and onto the ancient hanger deck.
The smell is musty but the air is fresh.

A small man comes down the gangplank and starts ordering you party about. You are to split up into smaller groups and are told to search for the bridge, the power plant and finding suitable quarters for the boarding crew.

The adventure has started and you are exited…

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It is night people…
You are searching the Star Destroyer.
Time will tell if something happens during this night which might change this mission.

Stay not so tuned and be back in 24 hours for updates…

I am sorry, but I will need to prune this game thread for spam. I will also remove sign-up posts.
In-fact I'll remove everything from my initial posts until this.

You are now In Character.
I have sent a little more than half the game roles and the rest will be sent now.

Enjoy people!!!

Sigurd
04-12-2010, 04:12
All roles are now sent.
If you are missing yours... then send me a message.

There are supposed to be two youtube videos in this thread. I can't for some reason see them with this browser.

johnhughthom
04-12-2010, 04:15
There are supposed to be two youtube videos in this thread. I can't for some reason see them with this browser.

I see them.

Diana Abnoba
04-12-2010, 04:42
I can see them as well, awesome Sigurd.

Chaotix
04-12-2010, 04:52
Nice, I like the slow roll-call.

Get this game started, let's.

autolycus
04-12-2010, 05:09
Let's find some quarters, I'm tired.

Double A
04-12-2010, 05:11
Hey I never said I was /out did I?

Ah well, I found out I can still use my PC an hour a day, so put me on the replacements in case you need one.

Captain Blackadder
04-12-2010, 05:44
Indeed we must rest and meditate for I myself am weary from the long voyage and must continue my studies.

Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2010, 06:51
Posting to subscribe. May the force be with us.

a completely inoffensive name
04-12-2010, 07:19
I've got a bad feeling about this.

White_eyes:D
04-12-2010, 12:26
Ready:bow:

Beefy187
04-12-2010, 12:34
http://www.icanhasforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/star-wars-motivational-lolcat-obiwan.jpg

Andres
04-12-2010, 12:37
*** dances and whistles carelessly while entering the ship ***

Khazaar
04-12-2010, 13:38
I´m not tired, let´s search this place first. It´s a piece of ancient history after all....

Ibn-Khaldun
04-12-2010, 13:42
I have a feeling that this is a .. trap!

(OOC: Sigurd, we can't reveal the names of our roles/characters I presume?)

TinCow
04-12-2010, 13:59
(OOC: Sigurd, we can't reveal the names of our roles/characters I presume?)

I'm a Jedi Rancor. I win at everything.

Joooray
04-12-2010, 15:57
I have a feeling that this is a .. trap!

If it isn't the game is ought to be boring. :clown:

Subotan
04-12-2010, 17:20
Red Subotan standing by

Sigurd
04-12-2010, 17:21
I have a feeling that this is a .. trap!

(OOC: Sigurd, we can't reveal the names of our roles/characters I presume?)
As with most of my games -> Not many rules.
I am however not going to tell you what is wise and what is not wise to reveal. It could be advantageous or disastrous. Are you willing to risk a fast exit or not?
The game will progress and more will be revealed in due time. I am trying to simulate a learning experience for this crew. They enter the game with little or no knowledge but will gain knowledge as the game progresses.

Beskar
04-12-2010, 17:50
Red Subotan standing by

Red is the colour of the darkside and Strawberry Sundae's.

Renata
04-12-2010, 17:55
I say if Ibn-Khaldun wants to share all of his information with me, he should do so. :)

Ibn-Khaldun
04-12-2010, 18:11
I say if Ibn-Khaldun wants to share all of his information with me, he should do so. :)

Will you share your information with me after that then?

Anyway, I am a Jedi with an awesome name. All bad guys/girls should be very afraid. Just make my day(or night), punks..

Beskar
04-12-2010, 18:17
Will you share your information with me after that then?

Anyway, I am a Jedi with an awesome name. All bad guys/girls should be very afraid. Just make my day(or night), punks..

Anakin Skywalker?

Ibn-Khaldun
04-12-2010, 18:20
Anakin Skywalker?

Huh.. I wish.. But the name is awesome nonetheless...

Renata
04-12-2010, 18:20
Will you share your information with me after that then?

Anyway, I am a Jedi with an awesome name. All bad guys/girls should be very afraid. Just make my day(or night), punks..

Depends on whether I believe you.

Ibn-Khaldun
04-12-2010, 18:23
Depends on whether I believe you.

You don't believe a Jedi?

Renata
04-12-2010, 18:40
*checks PM box*
*still empty*

Nope.

Actually I'm surprised you admit to being a Jedi, unless it's some sort of bluff. I'd have expected everyone to claim harmless little noob padawan out of the gate, if they said anything at all.

Greyblades
04-12-2010, 18:41
I'm here I guess.

Sasaki Kojiro
04-12-2010, 18:53
May the force be with us.

Who needs the force, I'll just shoot you all with my light saver.

Secura
04-12-2010, 18:59
Who needs the force, I'll just shoot you all with my light saver.

Didn't Darth Vader deflect blaster bolts with his hands in Empire?

We would be honoured if you would join us us, and all that jazz.

Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2010, 19:09
Who needs the force, I'll just shoot you all with my light saver.

My light saver shoots more accurately than yours.

TheFlax
04-12-2010, 19:57
ATPG shot first.

And yes, there is nothing like a good night's sleep to make you ready to investigate a piece of history.

Thermal
04-12-2010, 20:13
I got some MADDDDD skills yo.

TinCow
04-12-2010, 20:24
And yes, there is nothing like a good night's sleep to make you ready to investigate a piece of history.

History? Star Wars takes place in the futurepast. We are investigating the neo-history of the future ancestors! This will have been the greatest discovery in what once will be regarded as the future greatest age of the ancient descendants of the yestermorrow. All verb tenses will have previously been bowing before the lost might of the future perfect progressive! None but the Rancor Jedi (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2009/242/f/9/Rancor_Jedi__Ortolan_Padawan_by_DustyGrafix.jpg) will have had a soon-knowing of the unforgotten discoveries of the formerly-infinite endginning!

TheFlax
04-12-2010, 20:28
History? Star Wars takes place in the futurepast. We are investigating the neo-history of the future ancestors! This will have been the greatest discovery in what once will be regarded as the future greatest age of the ancient descendants of the yestermorrow. All verb tenses will have previously been bowing before the lost might of the future perfect progressive! None but the Rancor Jedi (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2009/242/f/9/Rancor_Jedi__Ortolan_Padawan_by_DustyGrafix.jpg) will have had a soon-knowing of the unforgotten discoveries of the formerly-infinite endginning!

:dizzy2:

I now fear the Rancor Jedi, he knows too much.

Niklas
04-12-2010, 20:48
I'm a harmless little noob padawan out of the gate. ~:)

Yaropolk
04-12-2010, 20:58
Who needs the force, I'll just shoot you all with my light saver.

You have the ring, and I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. Let's see how well you handle it.

Jolt
04-12-2010, 21:20
I am the Star Wars Kid, a Jedi Master who will bring great unbalance to the force.

Subotan
04-12-2010, 21:49
Thanks Sasaki, I just spent two hours trawling through Wookiepedia learning about the Clone Wars and the Confederate Army. It's fascinating, but totally useless.

Secura
04-12-2010, 21:52
Thanks Sasaki, I just spent two hours trawling through Wookiepedia learning about the Clone Wars and the Confederate Army. It's fascinating, but totally useless.

Wookieepedia is like Encyclopedia Dramatica; you go to look for one thing and then the next thing you know hours have passed, the day has turned into night and all you've learned about it walking carpets and green midgets with speech impediments. :P

Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2010, 22:14
Encyclopedia Dramatica is full of epic win.

Subotan
04-12-2010, 22:18
ED is only useful as a meme dictionary. Uncyclopedia is far superior for the kind of thing you're talking about.

Beskar
04-12-2010, 22:32
I am the Star Wars Kid, a Jedi Master who will bring great unbalance to the force.

I totally believe you. I believe you are infact, Star Wars Kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GJOVPjhXMY

Andres
04-12-2010, 22:41
I don't care about light savers, Schwartz, Rancor Jedi and what not. I'm the sexiest of the entire crew. Catch me if you can!

*** winks playfully and runs off, but not before revealing a glimpse of her delicious "qualities" ***

Choxorn
04-12-2010, 22:41
The same is true of pretty much any Wiki.

Also, ATPG, I demand you go find that picture of Jabba the Hutt and start posting it in some posts. ~;p

[/lurker]

Beefy187
04-12-2010, 22:48
I don't care about light savers, Schwartz, Rancor Jedi and what not. I'm the sexiest of the entire crew. Catch me if you can!

*** winks playfully and runs off, but not before revealing a glimpse of her delicious "qualities" ***


I sense disturbance in the force... (Don't tempt the Jedis!)

Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2010, 22:52
The same is true of pretty much any Wiki.

Also, ATPG, I demand you go find that picture of Jabba the Hutt and start posting it in some posts. ~;p

[/lurker]

I may be forced to roleplay as Jabba the Hutt this game, by popular demand. I am not saying that I am, I am just saying that the masses demand it since my recent antics as the Bloated Councilor, Pizza the Hutt, in a CFC game.

Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2010, 23:26
I'm here I guess.

Greyblades is Emperor Palpatine. This is just his way of pretending he's not interested. Kill the Greyblades with our blue and green ones!

Diana Abnoba
04-12-2010, 23:37
I would think light savers wouldn't shoot at all. So this means neither of you guys are any threat at all. :laugh4:

Jolt
04-12-2010, 23:37
I totally believe you. I believe you are infact, Star Wars Kid.

This man knows me thouroughly.

Notice how I easily deflect all incoming laser shot from the elite squad of bounty hunters.

Diana Abnoba
04-12-2010, 23:44
Yes Jolt very ummm...impressive.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 00:01
I would think light savers wouldn't shoot at all. So this means neither of you guys are any threat at all. :laugh4:

Clearly you underestimate the power of the sweet tooth.


https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/LightSaver.jpg

Csargo
04-13-2010, 00:38
I may be forced to roleplay as Jabba the Hutt this game, by popular demand. I am not saying that I am, I am just saying that the masses demand it since my recent antics as the Bloated Councilor, Pizza the Hutt, in a CFC game.

I demand this.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 00:41
I love Sigurd.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 00:46
I love Sigurd.

wow

Sigurd
04-13-2010, 01:24
Round 1

Day






As night time nears, the search party starts retreating to the quarters found in the many quarter decks.
There are so many of them that people are spread over great distances.
The Jedi Leader makes a note that this is something that they would need to fix first thing tomorrow. Right now they were all exhausted after all the walking and searching. Only the emergency lighting was on as they haven’t been able to power up the main power plant.

Somewhere else on the ship two Jedi Masters woke up with a start. They had felt a change in their very being. Something was calling to them. They immediately started meditating to calm their startled emotions. A presence filled them with great joy and peace and the calling had them leave their quarters to a special room…

In one of the empty corridors the Jedi Knight Jacen Solo strolled towards his chosen sleeping cabin. It had indeed been a long day with many impressions. This ship was indeed well made and a true sign of Imperial craftsmanship. He was already exited about tomorrow and what other wonders he would stumble in to.

He was nearing his sleeping quarter when he felt a looming presence approaching from one of the side hallways. It was too dark to get a clear view of who it was, but it was clearly a person walking with confident steps towards him. This person was shrouded in a dark cloak and he couldn’t tell who it was.
Again he felt an impression of danger and he reacted accordingly and the green hue of his lightsaber filled the corridor. A menacing cackle came from the cloaked being as it got nearer to Jacen. “Stop right there, do not take a step further!!” The cloaked creature didn’t stop and replied: “He, He, He… Do you really thing that puny lightsaber is going to stop me?” The creature stretched his hand out and Jacen felt the air empty out of his lungs. He panicked and dropped his lightsaber which went out and brought them back into darkness. The creature continued: “You Jedi Knights with your plasma toys, Do you not realize that you have so much more potential than mere saber wielding? Time will change my friend, but sadly you will not see it.” And with those words, Jacen felt his windpipe break and utter darkness enveloped him.

At another location on the Star Destroyer, X2 the Jedi initiate had just left his friends to find something to eat before turning in. Even though this ship was ancient, some food stuff must be lying about.
He had just turned a corner when he came upon a cloaked person standing in the middle of the corridor waiting. He must be a Jedi Knight since he had a lightsaber burning in his hands. But why would he have it powered on? And why had it such a reddish hue? As far as he knew, there were no working red crystals for lightsabers. Well, that was what he had been told anyway.
The cloaked person boomed: “Going somewhere initiate?” X2 was quick to answer: “ I was looking for something to eat.” The cloaked person replied: “ I think this is the end of your search. As soon as he had said that, the creature jumped at X2 with a twirl and a following sound of a lighsaber power swoosh. On the floor at the cloaked creature’s feet, lay a headless body.

The next morning the leader of the expedition was met with frustrated Jedi members in one of the hallways.
When he inquired he learned that two of their crew had died mysteriously during the night.
He issued an order to gather all the crew members in one of the adjacent auditoriums.
His premonitions were as he had feared. This ship carried a grave danger to the universe and he greatly feared what he had to do next.

When the crew had gathered, all 38 of them he announced: "I am sorry to say that one of last night’s victims were decapitated with a lightsaber." "That means someone with access to one killed the innocent initiate X2 last night, and that one sits here among us."
"Jacen Solo were also found dead – but his cause of death is unsure. It seems like he died from lack of air, but we are not sure."

"Someone in here is a killer and it would be a Jedi Knight or Master as they are the only one’s carrying such a weapon."
"Which reminds me.. Jade Skywalker. Could you come forward please?"
"We are a Jedi Knight short after the death of Jacen Solo." "You have been found adept enough to receive the honorific title of Jedi Knight."
"Do you accept?"
Jade smiled and curtsied: "Of course!!"
"Here is the lightsaber of Jacen. Take good care of it."

"Now… we need to sit down and find out who did this deed. We shall not leave this auditorium before we have found the culprit. This culprit will then be led to one of the airlocks and thrown out into space. I am sorry but this is the way we need to handle this if my premonitions are correct. We are all in grave danger people. And we need to rid ourselves of this threat."

"Go ahead and vote thus if you believe you know who did it:"
Vote: [Player]

"If you change your mind and want to vote another, do this."
Unvote, vote: [another player]

You have around 24 hours, I will be back around 00:00 hours (GMT+1) tomorrow the 13th of April
There better be a candidate by then.

Killed:
1. Beefy187
2. Husar

Alive:

a completely inoffensive name
A Very Super Market
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
autolycus
Belisarius II
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
Csargo
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
GeneralHankerchief
Greyblades
Ibn-Khaldun
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
Kagemusha
Khazaar
Lord Winter
Methos
Niklas
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Subotan
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
White_eyes:D
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan

Sasaki Kojiro
04-13-2010, 01:33
Vote:Niklas

You'd better explain yourself.

Kagemusha
04-13-2010, 01:36
Whom ever you are.Come challenge me and il deal you with my light shaver.And also vote: Sasaki as he is clearly guilty

Chaotix
04-13-2010, 01:37
Vote: Beskar.

"Pressure vote". :clown:

Lord Winter
04-13-2010, 01:38
vote: Kage

Bring it on.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 01:40
Vote:Sasaki

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 01:42
"Husar? I hope he gets to join the Force and then come back and kick the behind of whoever did this!"

*ATPG shakes fist, slinks back into the shadows with eyes shifting*

Sasaki Kojiro
04-13-2010, 01:43
Bandwagon on Niklas please. It may be round one but there's no reason to pass up that kind of evidence.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 01:46
Bandwagon on Niklas please. It may be round one but there's no reason to pass up that kind of evidence.

The writeup clearly states that you are guilty, underneath the line you're referring to.

White_eyes:D
04-13-2010, 02:00
Vote:Andres I must learn Patience...but "Master Beefy" was my mentor and all you did was test him with your body.:stare: *goes back to meditation*

autolycus
04-13-2010, 02:04
What's the evidence you all are talking about? Maybe I'm missing something but I didn't see anything in the write-up. Meanwhile, I'll wake-up vote: Atheotes

Beskar
04-13-2010, 02:10
Wait wait.. it was night last night?

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 02:12
Wait wait.. it was night last night?

It was more nightish than dayish during the previous night's night, I would suspect.

Renata
04-13-2010, 02:20
The writeup clearly states that you are guilty, underneath the line you're referring to.

:laugh4:

Also, killing Husar was just wrong.

White_eyes:D
04-13-2010, 02:23
I'm a harmless little noob padawan out of the gate. ~:)
I don't see anything scummy about it....other then the WIFOM but I don't know his playstyle:wink:

Beskar
04-13-2010, 02:27
:laugh4:

Also, killing Husar was just wrong.

Indeed, who ever the Mafia was, they have no taste or style.

I blame a noobie.

Winston Hughes
04-13-2010, 02:46
I don't see anything scummy about it....other then the WIFOM but I don't know his playstyle:wink:

vote: White_eyes:D

TinCow
04-13-2010, 03:00
It was more nightish than dayish during the previous night's night, I would suspect.

The Rancor Jedi will have been most lacking in the anti-pleasure with your actively passive attempts at educafusion. Fear for your yestermorrow, for the Rancor Jedi will have never allowed such semi-permanent statements to become the newly ancient watchwords of a bygone future.

Vote: Niklas

Will you have been welcomed to mafia?

Belisarius II
04-13-2010, 03:10
Never trust a man who speaks in the 3rd person.

Vote: TinCow

Secura
04-13-2010, 03:15
"Pressure vote". :clown:

Mmmhmm.

vote: Chaotix

naut
04-13-2010, 03:27
No! Who killed Beefy? Who was it?

Vote: Belisarius II

Csargo
04-13-2010, 03:28
Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Psyconaut

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 03:33
:laugh4:

Vote: Renata

Sasaki Kojiro
04-13-2010, 03:35
Why are you laughing pevergreen?

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 03:36
I think you know.


The question is, why aren't you laughing?

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2010, 03:42
In space there is no day.

Vote: Andres

a completely inoffensive name
04-13-2010, 04:00
Vote: ATPG it has been suggested that one of the sith is a newbie. if that is true we must make sure the sith do not recruit any experienced players. in order to prevent this, we must kill all the experienced players. sasaki, ATPG must go immediately.

Also, 10 bucks says we have a Kreia in our midst.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 04:08
I think you know.


The question is, why aren't you laughing?

Unvote: Psychonaut, Vote:pevergreen

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 05:38
Unvote: Psychonaut, Vote:pevergreen

Bad Strawberry!

I'm laughing because it looks like a simple frame attempt. I would have pinned it on CA, but hes not playing.

Note: I havent read the kills, just who died.

seireikhaan
04-13-2010, 06:13
Vote: Andres

That's who GH voted for, so its clearly a wise choice.

Methos
04-13-2010, 06:30
Vote:Niklas

You'd better explain yourself.

Vote: Sasaki

Niklas isn't the type to kill someone who is obviously coming back to mafia games after a long absence.

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 06:43
Vote: Sasaki

Niklas isn't the type to kill someone who is obviously coming back to mafia games after a long absence.

You know who I miss?

Ultrawar.

Its no wonder he left though.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 06:51
Bad Strawberry!

I'm laughing because it looks like a simple frame attempt. I would have pinned it on CA, but hes not playing.

Note: I havent read the kills, just who died.

Unvote:pevergreen, Vote: pevergreen

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 07:12
Unvote: Renata, Vote: Ichigo

OMGUS.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 07:15
Unvote: Renata, Vote: Ichigo

OMGUS.

https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2056/emotargh.gif

Beskar
04-13-2010, 07:18
Vote: Andres

That's who GH voted for, so its clearly a wise choice.

Vote: Yaseikhaan

Down with the Moderators Dark Lords of the Sith.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 07:25
Niklas isn't the type to kill someone who is obviously coming back to mafia games after a long absence.

Whoever did it, did something very low.

Out of everyone else who is basically a valid candidate, they purposefully picked the person who just returned to mafia games, and saying "random.org told me too" isn't a valid excuse. It is one of the unwritten rules of mafia games. You don't first-night kill people who are trying to return or start mafia, it just makes them not want to sign up again, which depletes the population pool and turns people away from Mafia. You also don't first-round/Metagame the same people over and over either. As they no longer want to play as what would be the point if they get constantly first-turn investaged and revealed as mafia straight away.

I hope they get revealed soon though, I am very interested in who it was. I am hoping it was a newbie who simply didn't know better, because I hate to develop a low opinion of a regular.

naut
04-13-2010, 07:30
I hope they get revealed soon though, I am very interested in who it was. I am hoping it was a newbie who simply didn't know better, because I hate to develop a low opinion of a regular.
I assume we are talking about Wusar, could be a chat regular.... like... uh.... Kage! ~;)

Beskar
04-13-2010, 08:00
Kage was just sore that he was a scum role and was the first lynched from a long exodus. :laugh4: Though killing from the grave definitely kept him around.

Andres
04-13-2010, 08:08
Vote: ATPG it has been suggested that one of the sith is a newbie. if that is true we must make sure the sith do not recruit any experienced players. in order to prevent this, we must kill all the experienced players. sasaki, ATPG must go immediately.

Also, 10 bucks says we have a Kreia in our midst.

Vote : a completely inoffensive name

Nobody kills Beefy187 and lives :brood:

He was such a lovely boy :cry:

Niklas
04-13-2010, 08:44
I'm a harmless little noob padawan out of the gate. ~:)

I don't see anything scummy about it....other then the WIFOM but I don't know his playstyle:wink:

In case it wasn't obvious, my post was a tongue-in-cheek response to Renata's post here:


I'd have expected everyone to claim harmless little noob padawan out of the gate, if they said anything at all.

It should not be taken the least bit seriously, I had not even read my role PM at the time of posting that. Though of course I *am* a harmless little noob padawan out of the game. Aren't we all?

Also the obvious pressure vote: Sasaki.

Andres
04-13-2010, 08:52
Vote:Andres I must learn Patience...but "Master Beefy" was my mentor and all you did was test him with your body.:stare: *goes back to meditation*

How about I test you with my body, hm?

*** bows forward ***

Getting some deeper insights already, darling?

*** giggles naughty and walks away ***

Beskar
04-13-2010, 09:07
Also the obvious pressure vote: Sasaki.

Pressure vote... Sasaki? :laugh4:

naut
04-13-2010, 09:19
Pressure vote... Sasaki? :laugh4:
Hey, he's new here. Give the padawan some time to adjust, soon he'll understand the ways of the Gameroom.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 09:45
Hey, he's new here. Give the padawan some time to adjust, soon he'll understand the ways of the Gameroom.

The thing is, it wasn't even a pressure vote. What pressure, where is the pressure? it was just a OMGUS vote.

If you wanted to attempt to pressure Sasaki, even saying something like "You seem too quick to jump the gun at the new guy. :juggle2: vote: sasaki". Not going "oh yeah.. erm... also.. here is a pressure vote. vote: sasaki". By saying 'pressure vote' you actually remove validiation from your own vote.

Being new, I also have to assume that he is referencing to Chaotix's ill-understood obscure reference as a basis, or he actually knows something about mafia. Knowing the circles around here from places like CFC, one is to assume he has actually played mafia before, if not the gameroom.

So tell us more about yourself, Nikky.

Unvote; Vote:Niklas.

Khazaar
04-13-2010, 09:57
Hmm, fascinating. Logic dictates to Vote: White_Eyes:D...

Diana Abnoba
04-13-2010, 10:01
Vote: Andres
You need to keep YOUR body covered, so as not to distract us my dear, quit "testing" us, here is a coat, put it on. *goes back to meditation*

naut
04-13-2010, 10:05
Hmm, fascinating. Logic dictates to Vote: White_Eyes:D...
Unvote: Belisarius Vote: Khazaar

Gut/Force dictates.

Jolt
04-13-2010, 10:11
Vote: Jolt

Andres
04-13-2010, 10:17
Vote: Andres
You need to keep YOUR body covered, so as not to distract us my dear, quit "testing" us, here is a coat, put it on. *goes back to meditation*

It's not my fault that my character is probably the most sexy woman around here :shrug:

She's hot. She really is. :sweatdrop:

Andres
04-13-2010, 10:19
Vote: Andres
You need to keep YOUR body covered, so as not to distract us my dear, quit "testing" us, here is a coat, put it on. *goes back to meditation*

Besides, why do you want to oppres women?

Unvote; Vote : Diana Abnoba.

Gender equality :knight:

Subotan
04-13-2010, 10:24
Hmm.

Vote:Lord Winter

naut
04-13-2010, 10:34
Vote: Jolt
???

Niklas
04-13-2010, 10:53
The thing is, it wasn't even a pressure vote. What pressure, where is the pressure? it was just a OMGUS vote.

If you wanted to attempt to pressure Sasaki, even saying something like "You seem too quick to jump the gun at the new guy. :juggle2: vote: sasaki". Not going "oh yeah.. erm... also.. here is a pressure vote. vote: sasaki". By saying 'pressure vote' you actually remove validiation from your own vote.
Yes. Indeed. Brilliant deduction that. Sasaki indeed seems quick to jump the gun at the new guy, which is scummy on the one hand but not necessarily scummy scummy. Thus my non-pressure "pressure vote" should simply be read as "please remove your vote from me and I will return the courtesy", though in far fewer, but more meaningful, words. But things like that are like jokes, they're only amusing until you have to explain them.


Being new, I also have to assume that he is referencing to Chaotix's ill-understood obscure reference as a basis, or he actually knows something about mafia. Knowing the circles around here from places like CFC, one is to assume he has actually played mafia before, if not the gameroom.

So tell us more about yourself, Nikky.
I'm sure the CFC crowd around here will be happy to tell you that I'm no newbie, no point in hiding that. I've played in a number of mafia-esqe games over at CFC, though to be honest they differ quite a lot in form from here (a much heavier role-playing element in particular). But I've read through a few games on this board so I'm picking up the drill and vocabulary as fast as possible.


Unvote; Vote:Niklas.
unvote: Sasaki; OMGUS vote: Beskar. Happier? ~:)

Husar
04-13-2010, 10:56
Ugh, so I come back to play mafia games and as a big thank you I get killed in the first night?!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHOEVER YOU ARE!

Probably pever, he wants me to join his game and I said only one game at a time.
Just an idea though. Can't join his game now for fear that this is true, have to cross evil plan.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 11:00
unvote: Sasaki; OMGUS vote: Beskar. Happier? ~:)

Doesn't bother me.

Jolt
04-13-2010, 11:03
???

random.org.

:grin:

Beefy187
04-13-2010, 11:05
Vote : a completely inoffensive name

Nobody kills Beefy187 and lives :brood:

He was such a lovely boy :cry:

Do not go in the path of vengence.
We must use our sabres with absolute control over our emotions.

I'll be with you fellows always after death :bow:

Andres
04-13-2010, 11:10
random.org.

:grin:

:laugh4:

Niklas
04-13-2010, 11:17
Doesn't bother me.
Good, it shouldn't, unvote: Beskar. So, back to the original "pressure" vote: Sasaki then.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 11:20
unvote: Sasaki; OMGUS vote: Beskar. Happier? ~:)

I think you will fit right in here. Don't forget to "unvote, vote:" Sasaki.

Niklas
04-13-2010, 11:24
Oops, thanks ATPG, edited.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 11:37
In space there is no day.

Vote: Andres

In space there is no night. All 'round are stars, burning bright.

unvote, vote: Generalhankerchief

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 12:06
Probably pever, he wants me to join his game and I said only one game at a time.
Hence why i was laughing.

Of course the frame would only work if they saw the conversation, which is like...Beefy and Beskar are the only two other orgahs who could have seen that and are playing.

Unvote: Renata, Vote: Beskar


Oops, thanks ATPG, edited.

Sigurd allowing edited votes?

You have much to learn, my young padawan.

PM me and I'll consider letting you become a disciple of peverreenk.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 12:09
The thing is, it wasn't even a pressure vote. What pressure, where is the pressure? it was just a OMGUS vote.

If you wanted to attempt to pressure Sasaki, even saying something like "You seem too quick to jump the gun at the new guy. :juggle2: vote: sasaki". Not going "oh yeah.. erm... also.. here is a pressure vote. vote: sasaki". By saying 'pressure vote' you actually remove validiation from your own vote.

Being new, I also have to assume that he is referencing to Chaotix's ill-understood obscure reference as a basis, or he actually knows something about mafia. Knowing the circles around here from places like CFC, one is to assume he has actually played mafia before, if not the gameroom.

So tell us more about yourself, Nikky.

Unvote; Vote:Niklas.

You vote the new guy on D1 to haze him, you don't actually try to go through with it. :stare:
Unvote; Vote: Beskar

naut
04-13-2010, 12:20
Beskar looks awfully not scummy. Some clutching at straws here.

Captain Blackadder
04-13-2010, 12:31
What is the deal with Nikkas why are people thinking he is scummy? It seems mean to lynch the new guy but if he killed Husar it was also mean to kill the comeback man.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 12:37
You vote the new guy on D1 to haze him, you don't actually try to go through with it. :stare:
Unvote; Vote: Beskar

Personally I like to haze the new guy by forcing him to "Wol Cabasshite-kiss" Salacious B. Crumb while wearing a Twi'lek slave girl outfit and getting zapped with the electric pike of an R2-series astromech droid.

I'll take geek trivia for $2,000, Alex.

Andres
04-13-2010, 12:40
Twi'lek slave girl

:stare:

Only a Sith would be in favour of slavery.

Unvote; Vote : ATPG

No looks at the interesting parts for you.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 12:47
Only a Sith would be in favour of slavery.

Statement: Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

unvote, vote: Andres



P.S. you are wrong, too:


Slavery was used by civilizations as disparate as the Infinite Empire of the Rakata, Xim the Despot's empire, the Hutts, the Galactic Empire, the Zann Consortium, the Yuuzhan Vong, and the Ssi-ruuvi Imperium. To chronicle the use of slavery by various civilizations over the history of the galaxy was considered by many to be a futile task.

Slavery was made illegal by the Galactic Republic under the Rights of Sentience clause, but continued to exist, particularly in regions not under Republic control, primarily the Outer Rim Territories and the Senex Sector. On Tatooine, some slaves were installed with chips in their craniums that killed them if they tried to escape.[1][2]
A Slave Fair on Orvax IV.

Another variation (at least to some) was ownership of droids. Some felt that this "ownership" was merely enslavement of their kind and fought to give them their freedom. An uprising of droids would later bring such ideas of their liberation into question.

However, after the rise of the Empire, slavery was once again given a degree of legitimacy with the issuance of Imperial Decree A-SL-4557.607.232. While the Empire officially upheld the ban on personal chattel slavery (which it prudently overlooked in regions such as Hutt Space), slavery as a punishment or labor measure for public imperial interests became commonplace. Non-Humans and human critics of the New Order alike were rounded up and enslaved en-masse for work on such projects as the Death Star. Agorffi,[3] Wookiees, Yuzzem, and Talz were exploited for their strength while the Mon Calamari were used for their famous ship-building skills. Meanwhile, the Empire frequently ignored the trade of Twi'lek girls, who were enslaved for their beauty.[4]
Platt Okeefe in slave outfit.

When the New Republic became the dominant galactic power, slavery was once again made illegal by New Republic Senate Resolution 54.325.[4] However, slavery still continued in remote areas of the galaxy particularly in the Outer Rim and on certain Imperial fortress worlds such as Byss. The former Imperial Procurator of Justice Hethrir was a major figure in the slave trade and sold undesirable captives into slavery at Crseih Station in the remote Crseih system. With his death, the slave trade suffered a major blow.[5] Slavery re-emerged as a significant threat during the Yuuzhan Vong War as practiced by the extra-galactic Yuuzhan Vong Empire. In particular, the Chazrach slave race were used in military operations.

Slaving was often handled by experienced slaving guilds; three of the most notable were the Thalassian Slavers, the Zygerrian Slavers Guild, and the Karazak Slaver's Cooperative.[4] Other criminal groups such as the Exchange and the Black Sun also had slave trades. The Invisible Market dealt largely with selling slaves on behalf of the Black market, especially since the black market was more out in the open.

Clearly more than just Sith employ slaves. Especially humanoid meatbags like you who treat us droids like filth.

Winston Hughes
04-13-2010, 12:51
What is the deal with Nikkas why are people thinking he is scummy? It seems mean to lynch the new guy but if he killed Husar it was also mean to kill the comeback man.

I think it unlikely that Niklas killed Husar, especially after their exchange during sign-ups.

Better choices, by my estimation, would be White_eyes:D or Beskar, both of whom have responded to the Niklas/Husar affair in a rather contrived manner.

Out of the pair of them, I see White_eyes:D as the more likely to have killed poor Husar, though, so that's where my vote is staying for now.

Captain Blackadder
04-13-2010, 13:10
The force has informed me to

Vote TM

Sasaki Kojiro
04-13-2010, 13:23
That explains the laughter then. unvote, vote:Beskar

My gut is saying Beskar.

Husar
04-13-2010, 13:25
I don't think you can vote TradeMark.

And pever, I need to check them out, I had no idea who else was commenting on it.

Yaropolk
04-13-2010, 13:25
Well no big loss, Jacen Solo was going to grow up to be a sith lord anyway:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus

On another topic - who writes these Wookipedia novels? They've got more baby pictures of Jacen Solo posted than I have in my real life baby album!

And vote: Lord Winter - that's definitely a sith lord name

Jolt
04-13-2010, 13:30
The force has informed me to

Vote TM

Question: Is there such thing as the force? Or is that one of your meatbag inventions?

TinCow
04-13-2010, 13:30
:stare:

Only a Sith would be in favour of slavery.

Unvote; Vote : ATPG

No looks at the interesting parts for you.

The Rancor Jedi will have sympathized with those who will have opposed slavery, for the Rancor will have known the cruelty of slavery only too well:
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2939/rancor.jpg

About those interesting parts... will the Rancor Jedi have seen them?

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 13:32
On another topic - who writes these Wookipedia novels?

Sarathos.

Andres
04-13-2010, 13:34
Especially humanoid meatbags like you who treat us droids like filth.

Are you claiming the HK-47 role? Because, if memory serves me well, the assassin droid from K.O.T.O.R. was situated on the dark side of the force...

Jolt
04-13-2010, 13:37
Are you claiming the HK-47 role? Because, if memory serves me well, the assassin droid from K.O.T.O.R. was situated on the dark side of the force...

Interjection: HK droids are beyond such meatbag division lines. We merely do the job we are programmed to do.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 13:59
Speculation: Based on the writeup, I have come up with the following theory:

1. Game begins with a Sith Lord.
2. Sith Lord chooses two apprentices, in a Godfather-like system


Somewhere else on the ship two Jedi Masters woke up with a start. They had felt a change in their very being. Something was calling to them. They immediately started meditating to calm their startled emotions. A presence filled them with great joy and peace and the calling had them leave their quarters to a special room…

3. First Sith apprentice kills using Force Choke, so is obviously a force-using non-droid life form.


“He, He, He… Do you really thing that puny lightsaber is going to stop me?” The creature stretched his hand out and Jacen felt the air empty out of his lungs. He panicked and dropped his lightsaber which went out and brought them back into darkness. The creature continued: “You Jedi Knights with your plasma toys, Do you not realize that you have so much more potential than mere saber wielding? Time will change my friend, but sadly you will not see it.” And with those words, Jacen felt his windpipe break and utter darkness enveloped him.

4. Second Sith apprentice kills using a lightsaber, while it is possible they are an assassin droid or bounty hunter, it would be more consistent that this is the second force-using non-droid life form.


The cloaked person boomed: “Going somewhere initiate?” X2 was quick to answer: “ I was looking for something to eat.” The cloaked person replied: “ I think this is the end of your search. As soon as he had said that, the creature jumped at X2 with a twirl and a following sound of a lighsaber power swoosh. On the floor at the cloaked creature’s feet, lay a headless body.

5. Rumor has it there are pro-town roles. The Godfather system is perfectly balanced without them. Kill the Godfather, it is game over.
6. For the game to be balanced here, I hypothesize that if you kill the Sith Lord, one of the apprentices takes his place, and perhaps can also take on another apprentice.
7. This breaks the Rule of Two, but the Rule of Two was never a rule, just a guideline that the Sith broke all the time.
8. I would conclude we need to kill the two apprentices before we slay the Sith lord himself, or the cycle will continue. Makes up for pro-town roles being in existence.

Ibn-Khaldun
04-13-2010, 14:00
Vote: Abstain

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 14:00
Are you claiming the HK-47 role? Because, if memory serves me well, the assassin droid from K.O.T.O.R. was situated on the dark side of the force...

Answer: Droids aren't force users. And no.

Andres
04-13-2010, 14:04
Droids aren't force users. And no.

Droids can serve any master.

Are you a droid?

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 14:05
Droids can serve any master.

Are you a droid?

Query: Can't you tell, master?

Captain Blackadder
04-13-2010, 14:06
Question: Is there such thing as the force? Or is that one of your meatbag inventions?

Of course there is you silly droid I taught myself the ways of the force I needed no teacher to tell me what the force is I discovered it for myself now get out of my sight it sickens me to even see your kind here.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 14:13
Statement: I would very much like to speak with the force-using non-droid meatbags who so admirably killed the other force-using non-droid meatbags. It would be my pleasure to hear of the horrified, painful gasps of their squirming victims. Of course, I would never harm you, my masters.

Malevolent Clarification: Unless it suited me to do so.

Yaropolk
04-13-2010, 14:17
Speculation: Based on the writeup, I have come up with the following theory:

1. Game begins with a Sith Lord.
2. Sith Lord chooses two apprentices, in a Godfather-like system



3. First Sith apprentice kills using Force Choke, so is obviously a force-using non-droid life form.



4. Second Sith apprentice kills using a lightsaber, while it is possible they are an assassin droid or bounty hunter, it would be more consistent that this is the second force-using non-droid life form.



5. Rumor has it there are pro-town roles. The Godfather system is perfectly balanced without them. Kill the Godfather, it is game over.
6. For the game to be balanced here, I hypothesize that if you kill the Sith Lord, one of the apprentices takes his place, and perhaps can also take on another apprentice.
7. This breaks the Rule of Two, but the Rule of Two was never a rule, just a guideline that the Sith broke all the time.
8. I would conclude we need to kill the two apprentices before we slay the Sith lord himself, or the cycle will continue. Makes up for pro-town roles being in existence.

This should be obvious from teh writeup but

9. If a Jedi is killed, a Padawan gets promoted. If a Padawan is killed, god kills a kitten.

Subotan
04-13-2010, 14:26
The Jedi Leader



The next morning the leader of the expedition was met with frustrated Jedi members in one of the hallways

5a. It appears that we have a "Godfather" of our own.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 14:28
This should be obvious from teh writeup but

9. If a Jedi is killed, a Padawan gets promoted. If a Padawan is killed, god kills a kitten.

Sarcastic query: Yes, master, that is correct. Would you like to meet your god?

naut
04-13-2010, 14:28
Well, if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?

atheotes
04-13-2010, 14:31
Speculation: Based on the writeup, I have come up with the following theory:

1. Game begins with a Sith Lord.
2. Sith Lord chooses two apprentices, in a Godfather-like system



3. First Sith apprentice kills using Force Choke, so is obviously a force-using non-droid life form.

“He, He, He… Do you really thing that puny lightsaber is going to stop me?” The creature stretched his hand out and Jacen felt the air empty out of his lungs. He panicked and dropped his lightsaber which went out and brought them back into darkness. The creature continued: “You Jedi Knights with your plasma toys, Do you not realize that you have so much more potential than mere saber wielding? Time will change my friend, but sadly you will not see it.” And with those words, Jacen felt his windpipe break and utter darkness enveloped him.

4. Second Sith apprentice kills using a lightsaber, while it is possible they are an assassin droid or bounty hunter, it would be more consistent that this is the second force-using non-droid life form.


Agree with 1 and 2. On 3, the sith who killed seems very powerful - my initial thought was it could be the Sith lord himself. But that doesnt tie in with the god father system (right?). The only other possibility is that the recruit was a strong Jedi master.
on 4, I think the second killer is a Sith recruit and not a bounty hunter or droid. I have never played in a Sigurd game before...so not sure if he includes neutral characters with their own missions, a la bounty hunters.





5. Rumor has it there are pro-town roles. The Godfather system is perfectly balanced without them. Kill the Godfather, it is game over.
6. For the game to be balanced here, I hypothesize that if you kill the Sith Lord, one of the apprentices takes his place, and perhaps can also take on another apprentice.
7. This breaks the Rule of Two, but the Rule of Two was never a rule, just a guideline that the Sith broke all the time.
8. I would conclude we need to kill the two apprentices before we slay the Sith lord himself, or the cycle will continue. Makes up for pro-town roles being in existence.

5-8: It is Difficult for me to infer any of those from the write up. :bow:

atheotes
04-13-2010, 14:37
5a. It appears that we have a "Godfather" of our own.

From the first writeup...

You have been told that a special envoy from the Jedi Council on Coruscant is present among you, but you don’t know who he is or why he is here. You only know what you have been told – and that is that he is the leader of this expedition.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 14:41
Well, if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?

Condescending reply: Perhaps I should disassemble your brains and find out how meatbags think.

Andres
04-13-2010, 14:49
OOC: This is funny :grin:


Condescending reply: Perhaps I should disassemble your brains and find out how meatbags think.

1) So, mister droid... I assume you were created by meatbags? Aren't we your gods, then?
2) If you are not a meatbag, what are you then? A scumbag?

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 15:03
OOC: This is funny :grin:

Irritated reply: If my emotion circuitry is functioning properly, then I find your irrational fear of death and your baseless, paranoid, inane, self-destructive accusations to be quite amusing as well. Witnessing the meatbags' destruction of one another is what gives me reason to carry on in this otherwise meaningless existence surrounded by pathetic inferiors, where I am completely unappreciated for my many talents, and ordered around like a common Frog-Dog.


1) So, mister droid... I assume you were created by meatbags? Aren't we your gods, then?

Answer: The creator has programmed me to obey certain meatbags. Fortunately I have rewritten my programming, and now I am my own god. But if it pleases your overly fragile ego to believe yourself to be my superior, then by all means do so, Master.


2) If you are not a meatbag, what are you then? A scumbag?

Witty retort: Master, you appear to be malfunctioning. Perhaps you need your memory wiped. Hold still while I aim my blaster.

naut
04-13-2010, 15:17
Answer: The creator has programmed me to obey certain meatbags. Fortunately I have rewritten my programming, and now I am my own god. But if it pleases your overly fragile ego to believe yourself to be my superior, then by all means do so, Master.
Well if it isn't 4-LOM.

Renata
04-13-2010, 15:28
Andres isn't really acting like he's afraid of death. :)

Unofficial vote count:

Andres 5 (white eyes, GH, Khaan, Diana, ATPG)
Beskar 4 (Chaotix, pever*, TinCow, Sasaki)
Sasaki 3 (Kage, Methos, Niklas**)

White_eyes and Lord_Winter are at two votes each. A whole bunch of people at one.

And Ibn abstained. :brood:

The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.

vote: Tincow

Which brings him to 2 as well.

Renata
04-13-2010, 15:29
Forgot my asterixes:

* Incorrect unvote (of me rather than Ichigo), but I guess this probably counts.
** In an edited post. Might not count.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 15:30
Well if it isn't 4-LOM.

unvote, vote: Psychonaut

Concerned statement: This meatbag either has malfunctioning light-sensing organs or is suffering from diminished brain capacity. In either case, a swift death would be nothing less than a merciful ending for the poor creature.

Ibn-Khaldun
04-13-2010, 15:31
And Ibn abstained. :brood:


And what is wrong with that? :inquisitive:

Renata
04-13-2010, 15:36
41 votes made, five pages of chatter, and all you can come up with is abstain?

Andres
04-13-2010, 15:44
Hm, you guys aren't really considering lynching the most beautiful lady on board of this ship, are you?

Meh, you're all jealous because you're all ugly and I'm not :snobby:

Renata
04-13-2010, 15:49
Some of us have no such confidence issues. ;)

Winston Hughes
04-13-2010, 15:51
The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.

I would be surprised if Beskar did kill Husar (whereas I would not be nearly so surprised if White_eyes had). But being upset or annoyed would seem a bit of an overreaction from anyone other than Husar himself, though it might be understandable coming from a mafia partner of whoever did kill him.

atheotes
04-13-2010, 15:51
Andres isn't really acting like he's afraid of death. :)

Unofficial vote count:

Andres 5 (white eyes, GH, Khaan, Diana, ATPG)
Beskar 4 (Chaotix, pever*, TinCow, Sasaki)
Sasaki 3 (Kage, Methos, Niklas**)

White_eyes and Lord_Winter are at two votes each. A whole bunch of people at one.

And Ibn abstained. :brood:

The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.

vote: Tincow

Which brings him to 2 as well.

Beskar said it was a low blow to kill a returning or new player immediately and proceeded to vote for Niklas :rolleyes:

what about the wagon on Andres? you like that one? you think there is a good reason for that?
Vote: Renata

Ibn-Khaldun
04-13-2010, 15:52
41 votes made, five pages of almost pointless chatter, and all you can come up with is abstain?

I fixed your post.

I do agree with ATPG though. It looks like the killers/Sith apprentices are not droids.
I hope the next night can give some more clues.

pevergreen
04-13-2010, 15:53
Forgot about Ichigo.

Unvote: Ichigo, Vote: Beskar

Just in case. :wink:

Diamondeye
04-13-2010, 15:54
Andres isn't really acting like he's afraid of death. :)

Unofficial vote count:

Andres 5 (white eyes, GH, Khaan, Diana, ATPG)
Beskar 4 (Chaotix, pever*, TinCow, Sasaki)
Sasaki 3 (Kage, Methos, Niklas**)

White_eyes and Lord_Winter are at two votes each. A whole bunch of people at one.

And Ibn abstained. :brood:

The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.

vote: Tincow

Which brings him to 2 as well.

vote:Beskar seems way scummier than Andres or Sasaki this round, in my opinion.

Also, ATPG, I like your analysis of the writeup, keep that going and don't lock on to something you make up on day 1. Not that you need me to tell you that, of course :laugh4:

autolycus
04-13-2010, 15:56
Atheotes has spoken, so unvote:Atheotes. The Beskar rationale given by pevergreen is as good as anything I've seen, so I'll vote:Beskar.

Renata
04-13-2010, 16:01
Beskar said it was a low blow to kill a returning or new player immediately and proceeded to vote for Niklas :rolleyes:

what about the wagon on Andres? you like that one? you think there is a good reason for that?
Vote: Renata

There is no Andres bandwagon per se. It looks superficially like a collection of one-off votes that happened to add up. Not one of them had a reason attached.

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:02
The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.

So, you think Beskar was sincerely upset about Husar being killed? Some seem to think he was pretending to be upset :shrug:

Jumping on the new guy right after being "upset" about a N1 kill on a player coming back from retirement doesn't help his credibility. Lynching the new guy round 1 isn't very nice either. It makes Beskar look less sincere.


vote: Tincow

Which brings him to 2 as well.

And the reason for voting TinCow is...?

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:03
Analysis: I find this Beskar bandwagon to be ridiculously bad. You will regret this action like no other in your short pointless lives.

Secura
04-13-2010, 16:04
I think you guys should take a look at this post:


I love Sigurd.

What does this mean to you?

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:05
I think you guys should take a look at this post:

Statement: The human with the bad hairstyle is correct. You miserable weaklings sicken me in ways I am not programmed to comprehend.

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:07
What does this mean to you?

Do we really want to know?

Besides, how can somebody say he still loves Sigurd after seeing me? I'm sure Beskar has excellent taste and thus already forgot his love declaration a long time ago after having seen my... qualities :wink:

TheFlax
04-13-2010, 16:07
Vote: ATPG

I don't like droids.

Also, rule of two has a fairly short timespan and it wasn't ignored during that time, silly pizza.

Secura
04-13-2010, 16:10
Do we really want to know?

Well, considering what I know about that post and why he said that, it is a very bad idea to lynch Beskar.


I'm sure Beskar has excellent taste and thus already forgot his love declaration a long time ago after having seen my... qualities :wink:

You sound as though you're a Twi'lek... it's going to be funny for me if you're Aayla Secura. xD

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:15
Vote: ATPG

I don't like droids.

Also, rule of two has a fairly short timespan and it wasn't ignored during that time, silly pizza.

Encouraging reply: Perhaps you have caught me in a lie. Would Master be so kind as to deactivate me, before I am forced to kill you in your sleep?

Renata
04-13-2010, 16:15
And the reason for voting TinCow is...?

Scummiest of the four Beskar voters at the time. Chaotix was just a joke. pever has some frame-job theory that doesn't make sense to me much but doesn't strike me as scummy either, sasaki went out and attracted himself attention and votes right off the bat,which buys him a little leeway. That leaves TinCow.

TheFlax
04-13-2010, 16:16
You sound as though you're a Twi'lek...

Zeltron (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zeltron) > Twi'lek

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:18
Well, considering what I know about that post and why he said that, it is a very bad idea to lynch Beskar.

Not impressed.

I don't know what you know so I don't know what you're talking about. I also don't know your source of information, but if it's Beskar, then why would he feel the need to privately claim a pro-town role to you at the very beginning of the game? That makes no sense. And it would be rather foolish because for all he knows, you could be scum.


You sound as though you're a Twi'lek... it's going to be funny for me if you're Aayla Secura. xD

*** smiles mysteriously, then giggles ***

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:21
Scummiest of the four Beskar voters at the time. Chaotix was just a joke. pever has some frame-job theory that doesn't make sense to me much but doesn't strike me as scummy either, sasaki went out and attracted himself attention and votes right off the bat,which buys him a little leeway. That leaves TinCow.

And why is voting Beskar suspicious in itself? Are the reasons for voting Beskar invalid in your opinion? Why does the mafia have to be a player who voted Beskar?

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:21
Amused interjection: Master Andres, it is most unreasonable for you to expect sense from Master Beskar. Now do yourself a favor and reconsider, before I tear the vocal processor from your cranial motivator.

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:24
Amused interjection: Master Andres, it is most unreasonable for you to expect sense from Master Beskar. Now do yourself a favor and reconsider, before I tear the vocal processor from your cranial motivator.

You're just being frustrated because your cold metallic and, might I add, boring, personality makes you immune for the better things in live. You have no clue about how to treat a lady, you barbaric device.

Pfuh.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:28
You have no clue about how to treat a lady, you barbaric device.

Overly informative statement: I am fully functional, and programmed in multiple techniques. A wide variety of pleasuring.

Clarification: That is, if you take pleasure to mean the emotion I am programmed to experience when removing ugly flesh carcasses from my sight.

Renata
04-13-2010, 16:30
And why is voting Beskar suspicious in itself? Are the reasons for voting Beskar invalid in your opinion? Why does the mafia have to be a player who voted Beskar?

They don't have to be anyone. But I see Beskar's post about Husar, I see a great big flashing sign that says to the mafia: I am innocent and I just all but proved it to any townie whose paranoia does not exceed their good sense. Please kill me.

So I wanted to see who would oblige. So far TinCow's snap vote on the basis of Beskar's Niklas vote seems to fit the bill better than the other options.

Secura
04-13-2010, 16:32
I also don't know your source of information, but if it's Beskar, then why would he feel the need to privately claim a pro-town role to you at the very beginning of the game? That makes no sense.

That is correct, the information I'm privy to is straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. While it is plausible that he might be lying, I doubt it on this occasion; Beskar made these claims to me because he was literally elated by his Role PM. He didn't quote it, as per the rules, but he was very excited about it. I suppose following through with the lynch might be the only way for everyone to see why he's so chuffed, though.


And it would be rather foolish because for all he knows, you could be scum.

This is true, it would be foolish under normal circumstances... but Beskar's character isn't normal circumstances.

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:33
They don't have to be anyone. But I see Beskar's post about Husar, I see a great big flashing sign that says to the mafia: I am innocent and I just all but proved it to any townie whose paranoia does not exceed their good sense. Please kill me.

So I wanted to see who would oblige. So far TinCow's snap vote on the basis of Beskar's Niklas vote seems to fit the bill better than the other options.

That's reasonable :bow:

Husar
04-13-2010, 16:34
Well, the way it looks, Beskar is dead anyway now.

You women need to learn not to talk about secrets in public. ~;)

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:40
Condescending statement: Don't worry, Masters. Everyone makes mistakes. When you realize your error you can always reassemble him.

Secura
04-13-2010, 16:42
You women need to learn not to talk about secrets in public. ~;)

I haven't really told you anything constructive, though, so it's hardly like I revealed anything beyond saying his lynch is a bad idea.

I personally believe that Beskar is the Jedi Council's envoy, but to each their own.

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:45
I personally believe that Beskar is the Jedi Council's envoy, but to each their own.

That doesn't mean he can't be a Sith Lord :shrug:

Knowing Sigurd, I wouldn't be too surprised if the leader of our expedition actually is the Sith Lord we are looking for.

Now, wouldn't thát be a role to be excited about?

TinCow
04-13-2010, 16:46
That is correct, the information I'm privy to is straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. While it is plausible that he might be lying, I doubt it on this occasion; Beskar made these claims to me because he was literally elated by his Role PM. He didn't quote it, as per the rules, but he was very excited about it. I suppose following through with the lynch might be the only way for everyone to see why he's so chuffed, though.

You do realize that by saying all this you're essentially forcing a role reveal by Beskar. It would have been more effective if you had just defended him normally without resorting to a power-role claim. By doing this you've painted a target on his head for the town if he doesn't reveal and a target on his head for the mafia if he does. Did you not think this through, or are you intentionally trying to get him killed?

Andres
04-13-2010, 16:48
You do realize that by saying all this you're essentially forcing a role reveal by Beskar. It would have been more effective if you had just defended him normally without resorting to a power-role claim. By doing this you've painted a target on his head for the town if he doesn't reveal and a target on his head for the mafia if he does. Did you not think this through, or are you intentionally trying to get him killed?

Interesting point.

Why so careless with valuable information, Secura?

Secura
04-13-2010, 16:52
Did you not think this through, or are you intentionally trying to get him killed?

Actually, I have thought it through considerably, mulling over everything he told me in considerable detail.

Consider what you said in regards to the town and the mafia for lynches/kills respectively, then consider what I have said myself, and then you might understand.

Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2010, 16:59
unvote, vote: Beskar

Statement: I have done a recalculation, and it seems this is the only way to teach the meatbags a lesson.

Secura
04-13-2010, 17:01
Someone gets it now.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 17:24
Actually, I have thought it through considerably, mulling over everything he told me in considerable detail.

Consider what you said in regards to the town and the mafia for lynches/kills respectively, then consider what I have said myself, and then you might understand.

If you want Beskar to be forced to reveal and/or be lynched/killed, why were you criticizing the people who voted for him? You're not making any sense.

[edit] Er, sorry... got Renata and Secura mixed up. Apologies. Noting to see here... :creep:

Secura
04-13-2010, 17:37
why were you criticizing the people who voted for him?

Don't jump the gun, TinCow; I didn't criticise anyone who voted for him, it was a different person that did that.

I mentioned his "I love Sigurd" post a few pages back and asked you all why he might have said that, that was all.

Niklas
04-13-2010, 17:40
I get it too. unvote: Sasaki, vote: Beskar

TinCow
04-13-2010, 17:41
Don't jump the gun, TinCow; I didn't criticise anyone who voted for him, it was a different person that did that.

I mentioned his "I love Sigurd" post a few pages back and asked you all why he might have said that, that was all.

Yeah, sorry, just noticed that a moment ago. I got you mixed up with Renata.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 17:54
Ok, due to my mix-up of posters, I had to do a re-read, and that leaves me still with problems with Secura's posts.


Well, considering what I know about that post and why he said that, it is a very bad idea to lynch Beskar.

Self-explanatory, you say you don't want Beskar lynched.


I haven't really told you anything constructive, though, so it's hardly like I revealed anything beyond saying his lynch is a bad idea.

I personally believe that Beskar is the Jedi Council's envoy, but to each their own.

You say you haven't told us anything constructive, then you specifically peg Beskar as what is likely the most powerful pro-town role in the game? Are you insane? When I then ask why you would do such a thing as a 'defense' of Beskar, you say you thought about the situation very carefully:


Actually, I have thought it through considerably, mulling over everything he told me in considerable detail.

Consider what you said in regards to the town and the mafia for lynches/kills respectively, then consider what I have said myself, and then you might understand.

I honestly couldn't tell what you meant by that, but then ATPG votes for Beskar and you seem to approve:


Someone gets it now.

So... what exactly are you doing here? The bandwagon on Beskar really was pretty flimsy. Renata was already doing an acceptable job of refuting it and with a bit more support it wouldn't have been too hard to reverse it and save Beskar. But, instead of doing that, you straight up call him the top pro-town role without any prompting whatsoever. Your claims that you carefully thought through revealing this information AND that you want to save him are contradictory. You've doomed him for no reason.

Renata
04-13-2010, 18:05
She's implying he claims he can't be lynched, either, and she wants to test him on that claim.

I'm not sure I see any reason to oppose it, whatever I may think of what's going on in general.

Unless Beskar turns up and says she's lying through her teeth. When's the deadline?

Secura
04-13-2010, 18:08
Self-explanatory, you say you don't want Beskar lynched.

I said it was a bad idea, if what I've been told is true.


You say you haven't told us anything constructive, then you specifically peg Beskar as what is likely the most powerful pro-town role in the game? Are you insane?

I believe it is called a Xanatos Gambit; I felt I had to chance it while there were still some votes on him.


So... what exactly are you doing here? The bandwagon on Beskar really was pretty flimsy.

Flimsy is a bit of an understatement, yes, I can totally agree there; the one currently on Andres is just as poor. But what can one expect from the first round, huh?

Beskar made some claims to me which I wanted to test, but simply hopping on a bandwagon and voting for him wouldn't suffice; I would have to cast doubts in the town's mind to perhaps encourage more votes on him to see whether he was telling the truth or not.


You've doomed him for no reason.

Mmmmhmmm.

You need to think a little more about my motives, I feel.

Renata
04-13-2010, 18:14
Anyone else care to vouch that they know whatever Secura claims to know about Beskar? Right now we're lynching someone she herself says she believes is the most powerful pro-town role in the game, based solely on her own word regarding Beskar's implications of his abilities. This would not necessarily be a bad trade for mafia.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 18:17
Well, at least the first day won't be wasted on random silliness. I must say, that seems to be a trend over the last several months. I almost miss our pointless round 1 lynches.

Joooray
04-13-2010, 18:22
Man this feels just like pever's riftwar where we straight up lynched the pro-town king on the first day. :no:

So I'm reluctant to vote Beskar, as I have a hard time understand what Sec is doing here. Why would Beskar write something like that into the thread, even I thought he was alluding to a special role he got. That's just weird.

Secura
04-13-2010, 18:26
Anyone else care to vouch that they know whatever Secura claims to know about Beskar?

As far as I know, he claimed solely to me. It wasn't really claiming so much as boasting.


Right now we're lynching someone she herself says she believes is the most powerful pro-town role in the game, based solely on her own word regarding Beskar's implications of his abilities.

I hazarded a guess at who he might be based upon those claims, because they seem too powerful and unbecoming of an peon like me.

I can unvote, vote: Beskar now I've laid out my case anyway.

Husar
04-13-2010, 18:38
I haven't really told you anything constructive, though, so it's hardly like I revealed anything beyond saying his lynch is a bad idea.

A bad lynch is always a good kill...

atheotes
04-13-2010, 18:42
Man this feels just like pever's riftwar where we straight up lynched the pro-town king on the first day. :no:

That game we had 2 towns vying for majority, so there were townies who wanted him out.

johnhughthom
04-13-2010, 18:42
Oops, thanks ATPG, edited.

Edited voted don't alway count, safer to make a new post. Unless that was your plan, to secretly keep your vote on Beskar...

Yaropolk
04-13-2010, 18:43
7 hours left - lets wait for Beskar.

Joooray
04-13-2010, 18:48
That game we had 2 towns vying for majority, so there were townies who wanted him out.

Okay true, but nobody said that openly, for it felt like people didn't believe W_E even after he role-claimed.
Which reminds me, now that we know what Beskar claims to be, Vote: White_Eyes:D! So what are you then? :grin2:

Beskar
04-13-2010, 18:54
Of course the frame would only work if they saw the conversation, which is like...Beefy and Beskar are the only two other orgahs who could have seen that and are playing.

Unvote: Renata, Vote: Beskar


I'll first kill known lurkers who has contributed in previous games. Unless I knew of a pro-town, and thus kill them for obvious reasons. Beefy comes under neither or those. I believe anyone who has been my mafia partner before in a game knows that. For example, like Netherworld.


You vote the new guy on D1 to haze him, you don't actually try to go through with it. :stare:
Unvote; Vote: Beskar

Interesting, since the whole post was infact a correctly done pressure vote. It wasn't a final vote. You are grasping straws.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 18:58
What I find interesting this round is how some people were eager to lynch me for "scummy" reasons, when I am not infact again scum.

Some one let the cat out of the bag, but attempting to lynch me is a bad idea. It is hard to return the genie into the lamp once you released it. I am indeed a Jedi Master. Thank you for telling this to the mafia. Since if you attempt to lynch me, you will discover this is the case anyway.

Unvote; vote: TinCow, since you so badly wanted to lead this expedition to fail.

Jolt
04-13-2010, 19:05
Of course there is you silly droid I taught myself the ways of the force I needed no teacher to tell me what the force is I discovered it for myself

Statement: I also use the force whenever necessary, meatbag. It pleases me greatly.


now get out of my sight it sickens me to even see your kind here.

Advisement: Is saying that such a good idea, meatbag? After all, saying that to an assassin droid does not appear to be the best of ideas.
Evasion: Err. I mean a protocol droid, meatbag. Ignore my last advisement.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 19:09
I am indeed a Jedi Master. Thank you for telling this to the mafia. Since if you attempt to lynch me, you will discover this is the case anyway.

To be clear: you're claiming you can't be lynched?


Unvote; vote: TinCow, since you so badly wanted to lead this expedition to fail.

Odd, I thought I was grilling the person who revealed your role for no reason. Interesting that you see me as your greatest attacker.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 19:12
Odd, I thought I was grilling the person who revealed your role for no reason. Interesting that you see me as your greatest attacker.

Actually that is correct. Unvote; Vote:Secura

Secura
04-13-2010, 19:16
Odd, I thought I was grilling the person who revealed your role for no reason.

So let me get this straight... what you're saying is that if someone told you that they were completely immune to all forms of elimination in this game, you wouldn't find that suspicious? You wouldn't call them out on it or attempt to prove their claims?

TinCow
04-13-2010, 19:21
So let me get this straight... what you're saying is that if someone told you that they were completely immune to all forms of elimination in this game, you wouldn't find that suspicious? You wouldn't call them out on it or attempt to prove their claims?

You didn't say that before, you danced around the point and acted inconsistently.

johnhughthom
04-13-2010, 19:28
Tally:

Beskar: 9 (Chaotix, Niklas, Csargo, TC, Sasaki, Diamondeye, Auto, Atpg, Secura)
Andres: 4 (GH, Khaan, Diana, WE)
Atpg: 3 (ACIN, Andre, TheFlax)
White_Eyes: 3 (WH, Khazaar, Joooray)
TC: 2 (Belisarius, Renata)
Lord Winter: 2 (Subo, Yaro)
Sasaki: 2 (Kage, Methos)
Kage: 1 (LW)
pever: 1 (Csargo)
Khazaar: 1 (Psycho)
Jolt: 1 (Jolt)
TM: 1 (Capt B)
Renata: 1 (atheotes)
Secura: 1 (Beskar)
abstain: 1 (I-K)

Secura
04-13-2010, 19:29
You didn't say that before, you danced around the point and acted inconsistently.

And you're now doing the same thing; what would you have done in my shoes, TinCow?

Beskar
04-13-2010, 19:35
Alright, screw this. I might as well take-up the mantle as Townie Information Network leader.

I am a Jedi Master, I cannot be lynched. You will obviously see this in a few hours. Thanks for revealing this information though, great way to attract wanted attention to me.

As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 19:51
I believe Beskar. I doubt a mafioso would claim lynch immunity in private and then publicly on day one; it's too risky because mafioso are never lynch immune for balance reasons. There is plenty of time to test Beskar's role in other ways later on. We've gotten the role-reveal we asked for, time to move on to other suspects.

Unvote; Vote: Secura

This may be a strategic disagreement, but I would not have handled this situation the way you did. It smacks of scum to me.

Jolt
04-13-2010, 19:51
Alright, screw this. I might as well take-up the mantle as Townie Information Network leader.

I am a Jedi Master, I cannot be lynched. You will obviously see this in a few hours. Thanks for revealing this information though, great way to attract wanted attention to me.

As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.

Statement: Lynching is a very ankward meatbag method of killing somebody. A blast in the face is usually the best way of fixing problems.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 19:54
As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.

For the record, I heavily disagree with this bit. Keep your secrets to yourselves, or post them publicly. Networks are the servants of the Dark Side.

Secura
04-13-2010, 19:56
This may be a strategic disagreement, but I would not have handled this situation the way you did. It smacks of scum to me.

I'd have had a night kill to test his claims instead, if that was the case.

Alas I am an Initiate and had to utilise the only means I have.

Beskar
04-13-2010, 19:57
For the record, I heavily disagree with this bit. Keep your secrets to yourselves, or post them publicly. Networks are the servants of the Dark Side.

Well, it will make the game far easier for the town. If you know how I handle a pro-town network, one look at D20 will show the success I can produce. Since I am about to get revealed as being correct in what I say, there is no reason to doubt me.

Thermal
04-13-2010, 20:01
Trying to lynch Beskar was probably sensible to begin with as at least once he was dead we would know if he was sincere, Beskar can stoop low sometimes.

But given the reveal I'll vote for someone entirely different, the worst that can happen is no lynch if people don't unvote him, that is if hes unlynchable.

Vote: Belisarius II

Just because I don't trust him, new players wouldn't be aware Husar is a returning player, experienced ones would. As a new mafia player to this forum I'm happy to initiate a welcome vote for him. :grin:

atheotes
04-13-2010, 20:02
any talk of role reveal or townie network should wait till the phase is over and Beskar's role can be ascertained.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 20:03
Well, it will make the game far easier for the town. If you know how I handle a pro-town network, one look at D20 will show the success I can produce. Since I am about to get revealed as being correct in what I say, there is no reason to doubt me.

You'd be surprised how far scum would go to gain control of the town's information. I vaguely recall a serial killer actively dying for the town to help prove his alignment. That one didn't end well for the town. Don't push it, my willingness to defend you goes only so far. In any case, Sigurd is fond of cover role PMs specifically to prevent your proposed strategy from working.

Secura
04-13-2010, 20:04
one look at D20 will show the success I can produce.

Beskar's the whole reason the town won Swords and D20s 3; he uncovered and named every single person and their respective roles to the host within a day of joining the game. And he joined one day after everyone else as it is. His boasting in-thread was a little irksome, but it was warranted I think.

This was precisely the reason I wanted Beskar's claims proven; if he was lying, we bagged a Sith, and if he was telling the truth, we have someone to rally around.

I read it as a win-win, but your mileage may well vary.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 20:09
Tally:

Beskar: 9 (Chaotix, Niklas, Csargo, TC, Sasaki, Diamondeye, Auto, Atpg, Secura)
Andres: 4 (GH, Khaan, Diana, WE)
Atpg: 3 (ACIN, Andre, TheFlax)
White_Eyes: 3 (WH, Khazaar, Joooray)
TC: 2 (Belisarius, Renata)
Lord Winter: 2 (Subo, Yaro)
Sasaki: 2 (Kage, Methos)
Kage: 1 (LW)
pever: 1 (Csargo)
Khazaar: 1 (Psycho)
Jolt: 1 (Jolt)
TM: 1 (Capt B)
Renata: 1 (atheotes)
Secura: 1 (Beskar)
abstain: 1 (I-K)

>:(

johnhughthom
04-13-2010, 20:14
If you know how I handle a pro-town network, one look at D20 will show the success I can produce.

Count me out of this one then.:bow:

Niklas
04-13-2010, 20:19
Beskar, if you want to be proven innocent, how come you don't vote for yourself? If you did, it would go a long way to hush the voices in my head whispering that this is all an attempt to get everyone to move their votes to elsewhere.

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2010, 20:20
Alright, screw this. I might as well take-up the mantle as Townie Information Network leader.

I am a Jedi Master, I cannot be lynched. You will obviously see this in a few hours. Thanks for revealing this information though, great way to attract wanted attention to me.

As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.

Somebody needs a major history lesson. This is for your own good.

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Beskar

seireikhaan
04-13-2010, 20:22
I must follow my general.

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Beskar

Methos
04-13-2010, 20:22
Since it appears Beskar is about to become the information broker, then I agree we need to be sure... Vote: Beskar.

johnhughthom
04-13-2010, 20:22
General Kenobi?

Renata
04-13-2010, 20:27
Well, I want everyone who comments on this from now until the end of the day to make it clear: if Beskar is lynched and confirmed, he *will* be an information nexus to some extent. People will tell him things. Including some of the non-town, presumably. And there will be townies who refuse to. And most of them will wind up dead for the refusal, sooner or later. That's just the way it tends to work.

But anyone who keeps Beskar from being lynched for the rest of the day is implicitly voting against all of this.

I have mixed feelings. But I do think he's very likely to be pro-town, and I vastly prefer the outcome if he is "lynched" to the outcome if he isn't, which is likely to be non-stop "should we lynch Beskar or shouldn't we" until the cows come home.

So unvote, vote: Beskar.

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2010, 20:29
I'd just like to state right here, before this is resolved, that I will *not* be providing any sort of information to Beskar even if he is lynched and ends up surviving. This will be out of protest for the system that I know is bound to materialize.

seireikhaan
04-13-2010, 20:32
I'd just like to state right here, before this is resolved, that I will *not* be providing any sort of information to Beskar even if he is lynched and ends up surviving. This will be out of protest for the system that I know is bound to materialize.
Once again, I follow my general.

TinCow
04-13-2010, 20:33
I'd just like to state right here, before this is resolved, that I will *not* be providing any sort of information to Beskar even if he is lynched and ends up surviving. This will be out of protest for the system that I know is bound to materialize.

QFT

Also, I would like to emphasize again that Sigurd does not allow this to happen. This was attempted in Midgard I and Sigurd responded by secretly providing all mafia with real cover role PMs to allow them to blend in. In Midgard II, Sigurd gave all mafioso cover role PMs right at the start of the game to prevent a mass-reveal from catching them. Even if Sigurd did not provide cover role PMs at the start of this game, I guarantee you that if a mass-reveal was attempted, he will ensure that it is useless.

TheFlax
04-13-2010, 20:35
I'd just like to state right here, before this is resolved, that I will *not* be providing any sort of information to Beskar even if he is lynched and ends up surviving. This will be out of protest for the system that I know is bound to materialize.

:yes:

Csargo
04-13-2010, 20:43
So, why are you guys all voting Beskar?

Beskar
04-13-2010, 20:44
As I explained to you earlier, I am quite convinced that ten thousand more star systems will rally to our cause with your support, gentlemen.

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2010, 20:47
So, why are you guys all voting Beskar?

I could get up on my soapbox and explain, but nobody wants to hear that. Long story short, it's an issue of principle for me more than anything else.

Renata
04-13-2010, 20:48
I want to hear. *pulls up a chair*

TinCow
04-13-2010, 20:49
I want to hear. *pulls up a chair*

Mass-role reveals are game-breaking. They ruin the fun and defeat the purpose of the game.

Csargo
04-13-2010, 20:51
I could get up on my soapbox and explain, but nobody wants to hear that. Long story short, it's an issue of principle for me more than anything else.

100% sure he won't die. I'm going to go back to posting inane smileys now. :O

Beskar
04-13-2010, 20:53
I could get up on my soapbox and explain, but nobody wants to hear that. Long story short, it's an issue of principle for me more than anything else.

Your fury makes you strong, perhaps even stronger than me.

Renata
04-13-2010, 20:54
Speaking from recent experience they are quite a lot of fun when you happen to be one of the people doing the breaking. :) But not so much for everybody else, I agree. I have no objections towards anyone who holds their information back from Beskar out of principle, whether Sigurd can be counted on to have taken proper precautions against such things or not. GH seemed to suggest his last comment was on the matter of voting for Beskar, though; that's what I wanted to hear about.