Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Visor]

Oh. Goody.

Then hopefully the real Anju shows up. I'm calling she's definitely a lurker. Probably Red_Spy or something. In which case I am screwed.

I never believed you for a second, Visorslash.

Then we both won't fufill our personal goal. At least I'll get team victory.

[thefluffyone93]

Aaahhhh.....
Let 'im live.
He's willing to backstab, so why are we stopping him?
If we kill the first of the players he listed as scum, and they are innocent, we kill him.
Plain and simple.

[Visor]

He might survive the lynch.

[Chaotix]

Then we both won't fufill our personal goal. At least I'll get team victory.

This is more aggravating that funny/pathetic at this point.

I got a scan result on you. I already know you're not Anju.

If you really were Anju- EVEN if I were to believe everything you said about not believing me at first- you wouldn't still be trying to lynch me at this point. That's all the proof I need.


EDIT: No, I'm not going to survive this lynch if you keep betting on me.

[Romanic]

You don't care who catches them, but when I offer them to you on a silver platter you turn me down?

Something is not adding up here.

Sure, I am untrustworthy. But look at it from my perspective: my personal goal is yet unfulfilled, my faction is dying out very quickly, and I have a choice between which team I want to win with. I just want to survive long enough to get my personal goal, switch my alignment, and be on the winning team.

And I am ready to betray my chaotic buddies to do it.

Because let's face it: I am the REAL Chaotic One here. It's even in my name.

You answered your own question. I don't trust you, and again, no deal with known scums. :grin2:

[thefluffyone93]

He might survive the lynch.
THEN WHY ARE WE LYNCHING HIM?
DUMMKOPFS, ALL OF YOU.

[Visor]

This is more aggravating that funny/pathetic at this point.

Not my fault I don't suck entirely. ;)


I got a scan result on you. I already know you're not Anju.

But you won't say who I am?


If you really were Anju- EVEN if I were to believe everything you said about not believing me at first- you wouldn't still be trying to lynch me at this point. That's all the proof I need.
Actually I would. Team victory and faction victory do not involve keeping you alive. Personal goal does. If you want the personal goal done, I'll be here. Otherwise, you will get not get a personal goal or a team victory, and if I have anything to say about it, a faction victory as well.


THEN WHY ARE WE LYNCHING HIM?
DUMMKOPFS, ALL OF YOU.

Because we will know for sure after the lynch, then we kill him tonight, without a lot of harm done. If we let him live today, we lynch an innocent, then he lies, and we fail to lynch, he survives another day tha we waste. We must kill him now.

[Chaotix]

You answered your own question. I don't trust you, and again, no deal with known scums. :grin2:

And is everyone taking their lead from Romanic suddenly?

Fine, town.

You want to throw away certain victory, go right ahead. Beskar was right; you are stubbornly determined to lose.

My offer stands for as long as I stand.

[Chaotix]

But you won't say who I am?


The results of my scan are unique. I can get one of two results: Anju or Not Anju.

You turned up Not Anju.

That's all I know, and all I need to know.

[Romanic]

Aaahhhh.....
Let 'im live.
He's willing to backstab, so why are we stopping him?
If we kill the first of the players he listed as scum, and they are innocent, we kill him.
Plain and simple.

No, it takes too long. We might lynch one of our own, and Chaotix will have one more night to do whatever he can do. In Zelda, once the lovers were united, they could protect each other, meaning we might not be able to vigkill him, so we'll lose a lynch on the next day. Or they might get any other cool power that ATPG's sick mind thought about (I'm he likes lovers team since he played Zelda, Ganondorf being Kafei proves it).

Not negociating with known anti-Towns should be a mafia golden rule.

And you have to trust your judgment and abilities to make the right decisions later in the game. We need need his 'help'.

[Visor]

Ah. :laugh4: It was worth a shot anyway. :P Well, at least one of us can achieve their personal victory.

[Chaotix]

No, it takes too long. We might lynch one of our own, and Chaotix will have one more night to do whatever he can do. In Zelda, once the lovers were united, they could protect each other, meaning we might not be able to vigkill him, so we'll lose a lynch on the next day. Or they might get any other cool power that ATPG's sick mind thought about (I'm he likes lovers team since he played Zelda, Ganondorf being Kafei proves it).

Not negociating with known anti-Towns should be a mafia golden rule.

And you have to trust your judgment and abilities to make the right decisions later in the game. We need need his 'help'.

Feh.

You need to look at this situation as analogous to my situation in Star Wars, except this time I don't have any godly attacks or defenses to kill you all with once I turn over your scums.

I am more or less entirely in your power. There is no disadvantage to you taking my offer.

[Romanic]

Did you scan me? I am Anju. :sweetheart:

[Romanic]

Feh.

You need to look at this situation as analogous to my situation in Star Wars, except this time I don't have any godly attacks or defenses to kill you all with once I turn over your scums.

I am more or less entirely in your power. There is no disadvantage to you taking my offer.

Of course there are disadvantages, and you know it. You give a name, we lynch that player if it's convincing, then you're free to perform any mischief at night that you would not have been able to do if we lynched you. It's big enough a disadvantage.

But you know, feel free to give us a name and we'll consider how reliable your information may be. :smug2:

[Chaotix]

Did you scan me? I am Anju. :sweetheart:

Sigh. Not fooling anyone, Romanic. I scanned you early on, too.

I am going to sleep now.

If I see any change in the tally, I'll give you all a scum to lynch in the morning.

[Romanic]

Oh come on, just give us Sephiroth. He attacked me twice, I'll convince everyone else that he's more important than you.

[thefluffyone93]

What is the tally anyway?

[Visor]

Well. I come out of this pretty good. I caught somebody. :P

[Chaotix]

Oh come on, just give us Sephiroth. He attacked me twice, I'll convince everyone else that he's more important than you.

Change of heart already?

The credits come off first or I give you nothing.

It serves me no good outing my partners if I'm just going to die anyway.

[Romanic]

I think it's...

185 Chaotix (BL 15, Greyblades 20, Romanic 10, Visorslash 50, Crazed Rabbit 20, Psychonaut 31, Yaseikhaan 39)
120 Visorslash (dcmort 40, Chaotic 80)
45 God Emperor (Arpeg 40, Beefy 5)
15 Fluffy (Kagemusha 10, shlin 5)

[Romanic]

Change of heart already?

The credits come off first or I give you nothing.

It serves me no good outing my partners if I'm just going to die anyway.

No deal, you give us Sephiroth and we'll decide if you're bsing us.

Unlike you, I don't care much about settling this deal, I'll get a Chaotic either way.

The longer you take, the harder it will be to reverse the votes on you. tick tack tick tack

[thefluffyone93]

No deal, you give us Sephiroth and we'll decide if you're bsing us.

Unlike you, I don't care much about settling this deal, I'll get a Chaotic either way.

The longer you take, the harder it will be to reverse the votes on you. tick tack tick tack

Psssst.....
Its tick tock.

[Visor]

120 Visorslash (dcmort 40, Chaotic 80)

Dcmort, why?

[Romanic]

Psssst.....
Its tick tock.

Right, it's tack in French. Who cares. :laugh4:

[thefluffyone93]

I am very tempted to actually bet this round.
But no, I'll just lose em.
Sorry Chaotix, I guess a team of backstabbers won't listen to a backstabber of the backstabbers who are trying to backstab the backstabbers.

[Visor]

Don't you remember Beskar saying how skilled he was?
Then he said he knew I was Anju?
Then it turns out, I'm not Anju after all?

What happened to your detective skills Beskar?


I am very tempted to actually bet this round.
But no, I'll just lose em.
Sorry Chaotix, I guess a team of backstabbers won't listen to a backstabber of the backstabbers who are trying to backstab the backstabbers.

What? Chaotix is a chaotic. If you vote for him, you lose NOTHING. SO why are you not voting?

[thefluffyone93]

What? Chaotix is a chaotic. If you vote for him, you lose NOTHING. SO why are you not voting?

:stare:

Bet: 97 credits on Visorslash

There.
I voted.
Happy?

NOW DON'T GIMME NO BACK-TALK!

[Kagemusha]

Blah, blah. Im hearing noice from a mouth of an Chaotic, nothing else. Fold and bet: 15 on Chaotix

[Kagemusha]

fluffy.If you dont want to loose all your credits.I would drop that bet on Visorslash.

[Visor]

Maximum wager for this round is 80 credits.
Bet don't count.

[thefluffyone93]

fluffy.If you dont want to loose all your credits.I would drop that bet on Visorslash.

Its a gamble I'm willing to take.
Its not like I was using them anyway.

[thefluffyone93]

And now I realize what the credit limit is.

Fold; Bet 80 credits on Visorslash

[Visor]

:laugh4:

Seriously, though. You people mind saving me? I'm all in on Chaotix.

[Kagemusha]

Fluffy this will only mean that you will not be around for long, if you are playing against the town. raise : 65 credits on Chaotix

[thefluffyone93]

Fluffy this will only mean that you will not be around for long, if you are playing against the town. raise : 65 credits on Chaotix

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/maradona.png?t=1306043778

[Visor]

:bow: Thanks.

[Kagemusha]

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/maradona.png?t=1306043778

:laugh4:

[thefluffyone93]

I go to bed now.
Reconsider killing off what is quite possibly the easiest way to win while I sleep.

[dcmort93]

I've been out all night so it looks like we found some scum. Fold; Bet 10 credits on Chaotix.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Luls

See the purple line in this man's signature? I wrote it for a reason.

[Kagemusha]

Gah my item voting format is wrong.

Vote: all items to Kagemusha.

Beskar. I for one think that your revival would be a good thing. Dont loose heart yet. I know you have been able to fish out valuable information before and i dont have a problem believing you have succeeded yet again.

[Visor]

Dcmort, care to raise your bid?

[Kagemusha]

Tally:

275 Chaotix (BL 15, Greyblades 20, Romanic 10, Visorslash 50, Crazed Rabbit 20, Psychonaut 31, Yaseikhaan 39,Kagemusha 80, dcmort93 10)
160 Visorslash (Chaotic 80,fluffy 80)
45 God Emperor (Arpeg 40, Beefy 5)
5 Fluffy (shlin 5)

There is no point in raising anymore.

[Visor]

You wanna bet some people are short?

Anyway, thanks for saving me for this day phase. I expect Chaotix's mafia buddies might want some revenge. If some has a protect power, if they don't have a better target, I would request they use it on me. But only if they don't have a better target.

[Skooma Addict]

Bet: 1 credit on Chaotix

Vote: Bear Claw to Mr. Beefy

Vote: All other items to Kage

[Death is yonder]

Blah blah blah.

You say that as if it means something.

I am a legendary double-crosser. You think I have any qualms about betraying my team if it brings me closer to winning? I've already told you I can change my alignment upon completion of my personal goal. I'll be a townie just like the rest of you, with knowledge of my partners in crime to sell, and night-kill immunity from them to boot.

You're gonna need me. Kills aren't going to reduce if I die.


I am a legendary double-crosser, having no qualms at all with lying to everyone with nonsense just to survive one more day and literally cause more chaos. I've already lied to everyone that I can change alignment upon completion of my daring scheme. I am a lying scum, with the knowledge of partners in crime which I'm dangling in front of your face just to help me live and more lies to boot.

You are going to need me dead, kills are going to reduce if I die.

That's what I read here :wink:


You shouldn't give out your alignment so readily, or you should consider renaming yourself "Death is over the Yonder"

You must really hate that I been striking nails on the head, I know why you been telling people not to listen to me, it is in my reply to Romanic. I am far too dangerous and if there is even the slightest remote chance I am scum, you would then kick yourself to losing to me again. So you go to the default position of "Beskar = Scum" which makes mafia games very boring for me, as I might as well just randomly post from memegenerator since no one would listen to what I have to say anyway, even if I am getting everything right and proven myself ten fold.

Infact, in this game, I did both randomly posting joke posts and telling you who the scum were. Next time, I just won't bother adding the part about who scum are, since it gets ignored anyway.



I beat them to that too, just ended up a little dead before I could cash in on that information.

Beskar in the first place, your joking posts are worth absolutely nothing. If you knew who they were you would have revealed it there and then because you knew they were chaotic. You may be telling the truth about something, but for all your bluster in public, you don't know half of what you say you do. Have you forgotten I'm confirmed evil and you are neutral? We don't know your agenda, you might even be able to swing the other way from what you've been replying to Chaotix, if you are on our side and "don't care" you would just leave the game and leave us to rot, you won't be saying "maybe Chaotix you should come and revive me".


I am tempted to turn leaf and going to start rooting for the Chaotics. The town are not even smart enough to revive their greatest asset which I would have gladly worked for to end up getting a victory.

So Chaotix, tell your masters for them to consider reviving me and I will work for them, I can greatly aid them, plus the town will keep wasting credits on lynching me giving them a free bus pass to victory.


Take your hustle and bustle elsewhere Beskar :grin:


You don't care who catches them, but when I offer them to you on a silver platter you turn me down?

Something is not adding up here.

Sure, I am untrustworthy. But look at it from my perspective: my personal goal is yet unfulfilled, my faction is dying out very quickly, and I have a choice between which team I want to win with. I just want to survive long enough to get my personal goal, switch my alignment, and be on the winning team.

And I am ready to betray my chaotic buddies to do it.

Because let's face it: I am the REAL Chaotic One here. It's even in my name.

You are talking as if we are turning down our greatest asset. You forgot to mention that you can and will willingly backstab us and its just a ploy to survive long enough to do so. Lets look at it this way, you've been caught, you've been exposed, and you are a squirming scumbag. You are in no position to bargain, we mightaswell revive Diamondeye if we want to know who the scums are [And he won't tell us obviously]. That's how credible you are. Zilch.


Aaahhhh.....
Let 'im live.
He's willing to backstab, so why are we stopping him?
If we kill the first of the players he listed as scum, and they are innocent, we kill him.
Plain and simple.

Because that wastes time we don't have fluffy. Its that plain and simple. If we let him survive one lynch and he causes more chaos tonight, not only does he wastes credits in the day phase, he wastes actions on him.


Don't you remember Beskar saying how skilled he was?
Then he said he knew I was Anju?
Then it turns out, I'm not Anju after all?

What happened to your detective skills Beskar?



What? Chaotix is a chaotic. If you vote for him, you lose NOTHING. SO why are you not voting?

QFT


I go to bed now.
Reconsider killing off what is quite possibly the easiest way to win while I sleep.

Its also the easiest way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

[Death is yonder]

Summary for why Chaotix should be lynched:

Pros
-Get rid of a confirmed scum
-Even if he says that killing him won't reduce the night kills, he can and WILL replace them once the number of scummers drop
-He might not be telling us the truth
-Killing him would save us a lot of headache if he's lying, which he almost definitely is
-If he survives he will waste credits of those trying to lynch him, and also cause trouble at night, and tie up night actions, you call that progress fluffy??

Cons
He might tell us who the chaotics are

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But lets face it, he isn't going to backstab his chaotic members. If he was such a legendary backstabber as he claims and so willing to backstab them, he would reveal their names now as a show of faith which would ensure his own victory. He has nothing to lose if he was telling the truth. He would tell us upfront if he was telling the truth.

And lets face it, pizza is not going to allow somebody on the chaotic team to just claim all their names and switch trains to instant "victory" the moment he is caught. That's just utter nonsense.

Bye Chaotix! ~:wave:

[Ironside]

Woot, scummy tell on 2 people in the same post. :birthday2: Wrong day for it, but you can't have it all.
And I didn't dismiss your comments in that post Beskar. Part of the reason for my focus on him.

Chaotix might very well be on yet another third faction and we all knows what happened with the last one.

If that's the case, we probably have few more days (I don't think they only need to find eachother to win), should he decide to give up other chaotics, but he'll hardly convert to townie. That would mean possible full Chaotic exposure on day 2.

Chaotix, are you willing to divulge us on what you did as a chaotic? Since you didn't kill and they already had a scanner, you're a bit redundant.


It's not confusiong. Here's the order of how it happened, assuming Visor is telling the truth:

1) Night started - Visor has 10 credits
2) He sent an order to steal 40 credits. Cost is 10 credits, deducted from his account. Balance: 0 credit.
3) Night actions resolve, they all happen at the same time.
--- 3a) khaan steal from Visor, his balance is 0 credit. Fail.
--- 3b) Visor steal 40 credits. Balance: 40 credits.
4) End of the night, income steps in, +10 creidts to each player. Balance: 50 credits.

I would recommend to check this with ATPG, I'm very certain the order is:

1) Night started - Visor has 10 credits
2) He sent an order to steal 40 credits. Cost is 10 credits, deducted from his account. Balance: 0 credit.
3) Night actions resolve, they all happen at the same time.
--- 3a) Visor steal 40 credits. Balance: 40 credits.
--- 3a) khaan steal from Visor, his balance is 40 credits. Success.
4) End of the night, income steps in, +10 credits to each player. Balance: 10 credits.

[Visor]

But Khaan would steal from me while I was stealing from RS, so he would get nothing while I was gettins something....?

Unless Khaan is lying about stealing.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Woah, I come back from my uni festival with cotton candy in my hand and a chaotic exposed. Like kage said, no point in raising anymore.

If Chaotix gives us some names, that would be great though. Just so I don't lose that one point for no reason, Imma Bet: 1 cred on Chaotix

[Winston Hughes]

Bet 10 credits on Chaotix

[Ironside]

But Khaan would steal from me while I was stealing from RS, so he would get nothing while I was gettins something....?

Unless Khaan is lying about stealing.

You would be getting something stealing from RS, while Khaan would be getting it from you afterwards. Let me put it this way, before the rule change, a thief would steal the credits you got in the morning. And AFAIK, the order of thefts haven't changed.
Not sure what happens if two theives steals from eachoher on the same night though.

[Visor]

What about if Khaan failed at stealing in the first place?

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Also ArpeggiateTHIS (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?59762-ArpeggiateTHIS) . What have you been doing as of late? 40 Bet on a hunch seems like a bit big one. I have gone through your posts in this game and so far you have dodged any situations which might have told anything about you. To the other people. As most must know i am Itchy and Scratchy from South Park Mafia.
If there is anything you would like to tell me so we can get properly organised, please drop me a pm. It would be really nice if i could get those items i voted for as i dont have anything right now, just for self preservation, so my resurrection will not be in vain.

Kage, I'll drop you a PM.

Fold; Vote all items to Kagemusha

It seems that my choices are either Chaotix or Visor. Visor seems to be an obvious townie. Therefore, looks like I'll waste a measly credit on Chaotix

Fold; Bet 1 credit: Chaotix.

[shlin28]

Why is a wager on Chaotix a waste? You will get your credits back...

Fold, Bet: 20 credits on Chaotix

[Visor]

I tried telling him that, but it seems he wants to waste his credits.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Why is a wager on Chaotix a waste? You will get your credits back...

Fold, Bet: 20 credits on Chaotix

He isn't scum yet though, is he? Or do we get credits returned on a neutral/good alignment too? If so, I see no harm in Fold; Bet One Bazillion Credits on Chaotix

[Visor]

He IS chaotic. IS as in right now.

You can only bet a max of 80 today, one bazillion is over and won't be counted.

My sig kinda proves that. :smug2:


and Beskar beat punchline already, another +1 to Beskar.

I saw this coming a mile away, how many posts did you take you, dear reader?

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

He IS chaotic. IS as in right now.

You can only bet a max of 80 today, one bazillion is over and won't be counted.


I don't have a bazillion credits anyway, nor do I have 80. In that case Fold; Bet 40 credits on Chaotix

[Greyblades]

Wow, theres been alot of stuff happening last night.

Idiots.

I can give you all of the chaotics and win as a regular mafia with my personal goal of finding Anju fulfilled.

I was lying, of course, about being a regular townie. I was not lying about my personal goal. That's what it is. Finding Anju is one point. And once that's done, I get the option to change my alignment and go mafia instead of chaotic, if it's more convenient for me.

And you know what? It's certainly more convenient for me now.

But instead, you're going to lynch me and throw away your chance. Brilliant. You guys are just brilliant.

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Beskar, you have been awesome, and it wasn't my choice to kill you. I would've kept you along as a neutral assistant. Maybe if you got less convenient later I might've had you killed off, but I think we really could have been allies.

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So you guys have basically two options right now.

1. You lynch me now, and hope that you can find the other chaotics before they kill the rest of you. I find this unlikely, but you're free to take your chances and whatnot.

2. You take your votes off me and let me survive the day. In return, I give you the names of my scum partners (you can lynch one of them today if the votes come off quickly enough), and I become a townie once I find Anju during the night phase. My special ability is nightkill immunity, so I don't need you to protect me or anything. We kill off the mafia in 3 rounds or less, everybody lives happily ever after.

I'm NOT going to give you their names until I see the tides changing. If I die today, I am irrevocably a mafioso and would be screwing over my own chances of victory. I need to find Anju and give her my special item before I can change alignment.

Speaking of which: ANJU SHOULD REVEAL IN THE THREAD NOW. She is, as usual, a townie and has nothing to fear now that Ganondorf is dead.


So... anybody want to make a deal with the Devil? I am, after all, the Angel's worst enemy, working under his nose the entire time.
...No.

The Pendant of Memories, when transferred to Anju, gives us both a personal victory point. I can use it to scan for her, but once it's transferred its use has been fulfilled. No other special abilities attached.
...

Well isn't that a pity, because the only way I can give that Pendant of Memories to you is if I survive the day phase and transfer it to you tonight.

Decisions, decisions...
...We could always just get it off his bloated corpse and vote it to this anju person next turn, simple, effective and we dont have to put up with your whining for the next night phase, just saying.

PHEH I SAY.

PHEH.

LOOK UPON MY FACE OF DISAPPROVAL.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/tom_delay.jpg?t=1306039128

Fold

I could care less for a team victory right now, as the town is so inept.
I can win my personal victory whether I'm alive or dead, so I DON'T CARE.
...Mate this guy isnt even trying to deny he's a chaotic, you know the guys every townie team is trying to kill, whats the problem?

:stare:

Bet: 97 credits on Visorslash

There.
I voted.
Happy?

NOW DON'T GIMME NO BACK-TALK!
Unless there's some great explanation for his actions I suggest we lynch fluffy next, unless BL wants to use that investgatory item on him.
[Edit:] oh wait that vote is invalid because its over 80 credits... I still say we at least have a look at him next turn.

[Visor]

[Edit:] oh wait that vote is invalid because its over 80 credits... I still say we at least have a look at him next turn.
He fixed it.

BL I suggest either God Emperor or Romanic for scans. Romanic so to ease all our minds.

[Beskar]

Beskar in the first place, your joking posts are worth absolutely nothing. If you knew who they were you would have revealed it there and then because you knew they were chaotic.

Why would I? Wouldn't that just get me killed and what do I gain by revealing, getting killed while the town choose to work with the scum opposed to against it because they are unable to read basic scum signs?


You may be telling the truth about something, but for all your bluster in public, you don't know half of what you say you do. Have you forgotten I'm confirmed evil and you are neutral? We don't know your agenda

Since it has been mentioned tons of time before within the thread, or you can simply ask another neutral, then it is pretty obvious why I done certain things in a certain way. Or have you been post skimming again when you do a big wall of text three 5 pages have it has already been brought up.

Since my agenda is obviously is winning and I can win with the mafia/'town' there is pretty much no reason not to revive me :juggle: or unless... reviving me goes against one of your win conditions, then obviously you are not placing every ones best interests at heart.

Also, you are confirmed nothing. First rule of mafia.

[Visor]

I don't think the town is doing so badly. Please elaborate why we are Beskar?

[Death is yonder]

Why would I? Wouldn't that just get me killed and what do I gain by revealing, getting killed while the town choose to work with the scum opposed to against it because they are unable to read basic scum signs?

Oh yes because that is without a shadow of a doubt why Backwards Logic is getting lynched now. Because he revealed a Chaotix to be a Chaotic and we're going to work with the Chaotics because nobody other than Beskar can read basic scum signs :rolleyes2:

:beam:


Since it has been mentioned tons of time before within the thread, or you can simply ask another neutral

So because you are a neutral you have the exact same characteristics as every other neutral? Nonsense.


it is pretty obvious why I done certain things in a certain way

Well you are the author of your actions after all. Do tell beskie :tongue:


Or have you been post skimming again when you do a big wall of text three 5 pages have it has already been brought up.

Well we are approaching 80 pages right now for me on 30 posts a page, perhaps you would care to quote them again since they are so "blatantly obvious" which should be "self-evident to all".

Give it a rest Beskar, if you are talking about your "jokey posts" and how you highlighted Chaotix from ages ago, those were clearly very vague posts that proved nothing. Absolutely nothing except that coincidentally you interacted with Chaotix.


Since my agenda is obviously is winning and I can win with the mafia/'town' there is pretty much no reason not to revive me or unless... reviving me goes against one of your win conditions, then obviously you are not placing every ones best interests at heart.

Lets put it this way Beskar, you have explicitly stated how the town is frustrating you because we are "not listening to the awesome and limitless wisdom that Beskar provides" that will "catch every scum". If you want to stop caring about the town's game, then do so and "let us rot" because we've "only" caught 3 chaotics so far.



Also, you are confirmed nothing. First rule of mafia.

How much more explicit can it get than being night killed by the chaotics and proven by the host himself to be evil aligned?

Also, talk about yourself. Your case is confirmed nothing. You have no proof except some vague jokey posts that you've warped to cast yourself in a better light in typical Beskar fashion.

[Beskar]

because we've "only" caught 3 chaotics so far.

No you didn't...

1 was random chance, the 2nd was Renata, and the 3rd was some one I already said was chaotic two weeks earlier.

[Kagemusha]

How many hours we have until deadline?

[dcmort93]

Dcmort, care to raise your bid?

Because there is no point.

[Death is yonder]

No you didn't...

1 was random chance, the 2nd was Renata, and the 3rd was some one I already said was chaotic two weeks earlier.

Oh yes, because Diamondeye isn't scum hmm Beskar? :tongue:

[thefluffyone93]

Gah, screw it.
I'm not wasting credits on this.
Fold

[Beskar]

Oh yes, because Diamondeye isn't scum hmm Beskar? :tongue:

It was Renata who got him lynched, or you counting the 're-lynch' because Team Romanic decided to revive Diamondeye as part of a personal victory?

[Chaotix]

Well, I hate to go out like this.

Here are the remaining Chaotics:

Sephiroth - Beefy, aka Satanic Teacher Josh Timman of the Psycho Mafia.
Reenkis Roinkis - Fluffy, aka Advice Dog of the Bizarro Mafia.

Now change your votes already. Sephiroth has been killing every night and Reenkis Roinkis is the reviver. Me, I did a vig-kill on night 1 (Kagemusha), and ever since I have only been stealing credits and scanning to find Anju.

I'm still annoyed that I haven't even gotten so much as a PM from the real Anju. Definitely inactive. Bummer.

[Chaotix]

Fold, Bet: 80 credits on Beefy

[thefluffyone93]

....................
You got one part right.
I be Advice Dog.

I thought that part was obvious since I ALREADY ROLECLAIMED.
DUMMKOPF.

However, I don't know anything about Beefy.

[Chaotix]

....................
You got one part right.
I be Advice Dog.

I thought that part was obvious since I ALREADY ROLECLAIMED.
DUMMKOPF.

However, I don't know anything about Beefy.

Yeah, yeah.

You were all ready to support me before, because I told you in the quicktopic I was only bluffing.

Now, however, you see that Chaotix was telling the truth. The chaotics know it now. I wonder when the evil team will figure it out.

Time to die, scum, I'm changing sides.

[thefluffyone93]

You sneaky dingo you!
Backstabbing the one townie who was trying to save a chaotic backstabber!
I applaud you, Chaotix!
Well played!

[Kagemusha]

Thank you very much for this information Chaotix. Do you have something on the green eyed killer?

[thefluffyone93]

Yeah, yeah.

You were all ready to support me before, because I told you in the quicktopic I was only bluffing.

Now, however, you see that Chaotix was telling the truth. The chaotics know it now. I wonder when the evil team will figure it out.

Time to die, scum, I'm changing sides.

You mean this quicktopic?
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/wir45gHgQPKk9 (http://nyan.cat/)

[God Emperor]

Bet: 20 credit on chaotix
So I am finally here. My inactivity will still be low the following next days due to exams. Lynch me if you must.


Actually God Emperor is a good bet, here's why.

First, he was one of the four players who learned that I was the reviver, before I claimed in the thread. Renata told him on Day 5, the day after I revived Backwards Logic. The other four players were: Renata, Backwards and [someone I don't want to name, but I trust]. Me being attacked twice implies that the chaotics knew I was an important target, so my guess is that they indeed knew, and it could only be God Emperor.

That you are being attacked is not related to me Romanic. Are you even forgetting I am the one who were asking in the first place for you to become a reviver, so that you did not sit back with loads of gold? :s I don't see how this can make sense in your head.



Second, GE claims that most of his night actions failed. Most of the time, he's been trying to steal, but failed, failed, failed. At 50% success, a purchase steal credits shouldn't fail so often because of this ruling:


Yet GE failed 4 times to steal, out of 5. I don't believe him, failed attempts are a perfect cover to disguise your night actions in this game.[/QUOTE]

As for this part.. I dont' think there is a way where I can show you that I am not lying, but I can at least tell you that it is not a good idea to have results that stick out if you intend to hide. . Anyway I would recomend you talked with ATPG about his rules before you claim that my results are hardly possible. I can't say I aprove with the results, but I can hardly change them either.

(sorry if I sound harsh =/ I am a little stressed right now)

[thefluffyone93]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29RE0blCV84

[Chaotix]

Thank you very much for this information Chaotix. Do you have something on the green eyed killer?

The green-eyed killer is Sephiroth.

You guys aren't very good at reading write-ups.

Now how about you take those votes off me?

[Kagemusha]

The green-eyed killer is Sephiroth.

You guys aren't very good at reading write-ups.

Now how about you take those votes off me?

Thank you for clarifying this. And what about the winged beast who have been attacking each turn someone?

[Chaotix]

Thank you for clarifying this. And what about the winged beast who have been attacking each turn someone?

That's not us.

You guys have another serial killer to deal with.

[Kagemusha]

That's not us.

You guys have another serial killer to deal with.

That is quite strange as Seon was Screwtape and this other one seems awfully like Wormfood from CR´s game. Are you absolutely sure you are not forgetting anything as right now your credibility seems awfully low. Maybe we should give you some time towards the end of the day to think about if you have told us everything? We are in no hurry.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wormfood? :laugh4:

[Romanic]

It was Renata who got him lynched, or you counting the 're-lynch' because Team Romanic decided to revive Diamondeye as part of a personal victory?

Nice try, but the writeups show that the person who revived Backwards Logic and Kagemusha is different than the one who revived Diamondeye, Blue vs Red text, one is referred as a "tall, powerful figure" (same guy who was attacked by Sephiroth on N5 & N6 - that's me). The other reviver is referred to as "a necromancer" and is using a urn to revive, clear differences.

[Kagemusha]

Wormfood? :laugh4: Wormwood,wood could be food of worm, so why not wormfood?:martass: Alright, aaaalright i try to come up with a less ridiculous explanation for typo next time.:embarassed:

[Romanic]

Bet: 20 credit on chaotix
So I am finally here. My inactivity will still be low the following next days due to exams. Lynch me if you must.

That you are being attacked is not related to me Romanic. Are you even forgetting I am the one who were asking in the first place for you to become a reviver, so that you did not sit back with loads of gold? :s I don't see how this can make sense in your head.

I'm sorry to disappoint but it was my plan all along to become a reviver, it didn't come from you. I just didn't want to tell you that part.



As for this part.. I dont' think there is a way where I can show you that I am not lying, but I can at least tell you that it is not a good idea to have results that stick out if you intend to hide. . Anyway I would recomend you talked with ATPG about his rules before you claim that my results are hardly possible. I can't say I aprove with the results, but I can hardly change them either.
You intended to hide? :smug2:



(sorry if I sound harsh =/ I am a little stressed right now)
No worries, it will all be over soon. You're on a shortlist of 4 players - you will either be scanned, or vig/lynched soon.

I'll drop a bigger case on your head later.

[Romanic]

Well, I hate to go out like this.

Here are the remaining Chaotics:

Sephiroth - Beefy, aka Satanic Teacher Josh Timman of the Psycho Mafia.
Reenkis Roinkis - Fluffy, aka Advice Dog of the Bizarro Mafia.

Now change your votes already. Sephiroth has been killing every night and Reenkis Roinkis is the reviver. Me, I did a vig-kill on night 1 (Kagemusha), and ever since I have only been stealing credits and scanning to find Anju.

I'm still annoyed that I haven't even gotten so much as a PM from the real Anju. Definitely inactive. Bummer.

Sorry but you're lying at least about Beefy. He's Josh Timman, yes, but he can't be Sephiroth because Timman killed on Night 1 (Classical_Hero) and on Night 4 (Captain Blackadder 2). This second kill makes it difficult for him to be Sephiroth, because Sephiroth killed Beskar on the same night.

I think Beefy is just an easy pick for you because you know his rolename, from Diamondeye's scan.

[Seon]

:curtain:

[Renata]

Having fun yet, Seon?

[Seon]

Having a blast here, Renata. Backstabbing, surprises, and guillable townies galore and all.

[thefluffyone93]

Having fun yet, Seon?
Fun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfEfM-MnTGc

[Renata]

Hey now, I'm the only townie here, gullible or otherwise.

(You'd think my user title might have been a sign ...)

[Romanic]

Hey! This isn't a chatroom for dead, anti-Evil, players.

Out! Out! Out!

[Renata]

:flybye:

Is there a Jedi smily?

[Diamondeye]

Hey now, I'm the only townie here, gullible or otherwise.

(You'd think my user title might have been a sign ...)

Yeah what about my user title? Nobody believes it anyway.

Also, bad Chaotix :stare:

[thefluffyone93]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE

[Seon]

Yeah, Chaotix, way to out all our secrets. We're all totally gonna die now because of you. Prisoner's dillemma sucks.

[Earthling]

On that topic I should answer ACIN's question from way back. I was going to say "blueberry, I mean yellllooowww"

Now for the rest of things here, I'll bold player names I'm addressing, most of some things some of you won't care about. Also, seems obvious that Chaotix should be lynched, so bet: 5 credits on Chaotix

Beskar, you're not helping the evils here and never were, and while pushing at what you can reveal while dead you can't really make things happen any quicker, sorry. Really I was one of the people advocating we get you revived when we can and your complaining isn't encouraging me to push that anymore. You're simply not realizing that we're trying to do all we can anyway and some of us even did want to help you, including me, just we can't do everything. Half the town still doesn't seem like they'd want to cooperate with BL or me and our Innocent group here despite knowing we're not chaotics. And then for us to actually get night actions done, the scum stole credits from various members of our group, we have to use credits on lynches too, they can outright kill townies and continue to do so, and reviving is really expensive. It's not like we simply had a choice and are not reviving you, unless you're really mad we went with Kage first, it simply couldn't be done, nobody I know of had reached enough credits for a second revive. There's still a chance for you down the line if you're just patient, rather than this incessant look-at-me business. And now if we really do have a solid chance of truescanning plus another chaotic caught I'm leaning towards agreement that reviving an uncooperative neutral wouldn't be worth it anyway at that point, Bow-wow-wow or choxorn sound like the answer to me.

Visorslash - I'd like an explanation as to how you learned of the "Lovers" situation and the mysterious information/informant you've mentioned before that makes you know Warman or fluffy or whomever is Innocent. Your claim to actually be one of these Lovers yourself is bad and you need to drop it, if you're lying or joking, too much confusion. If it's true, that makes you look like some neutral or third party at best and I still don't believe you're evil at all. It also really begs the question why you killed Believer if you were the other "Lover" yourself.

This is for others to discuss too but regarding Beefy - now that it's public he's supposedly a vigilante we should talk about that. Obviously it's not great how he's only killed two Evil-aligned townies. Plus, if he's an Innocent vig, he must have "levelled-up" his vig skills or something by now or maybe has more credits to spend, anyway, if he is Innocent we really need him to follow orders on a vig hit on an actual suspect, see that in the write-up and make sure Beefy isn't hiding something. A scan from BL with his new scan powers isn't a bad call to me either but if we could get Beefy to cooperate or demonstrate he's non-chaotic through other means we can scan another person. Right now, to me, what's been claimed about him doesn't rule out also being a chaotic if he did "vig-kills" with credits. But it does look like his attempts have not been in sync with the chaotics. I will also note it's odd that mythmonster (now Khaan) was a second supposed vigilante on the same Psychotic faction, plus Beskar the neutral was whatever he was, no actual scum cover roles on the psychotics yet. Would be doubly great if we could get the faction enemies of the Psychotics revealed in public by one of those guys...

Similar observation on thefluffyone - As I said before, it's extremely clear he is Bizarro and has been acting to help the Bizarro faction (plus stay out of the way/keep himself alive or whatever, but that could be normal townie) this whole time. Both early posts and his actions through the MRD scenario add up in light of that as possibly town. The other thing here though, is that the Bizarro faction victory is possibly unattainable as they said they needed to wipe out Renata's faction (Space) and she's gone. I've pointed this out to fluffy and Skooma, our two known Bizarros (as well I tried to warn them about Renata a lot way long ago, to no effect it seems). But anyway, if they are townies they simply need to step up cooperation is my answer, they'd have to have evil victorious over the chaotics to achieve victory points and if you guys don't like me simply work with BL. The open question we might want to look into is if somebody knows of a SIXTH Bizarro member (three dead plus these two makes five) because then I'd worry about more cover roles or something on that faction.

All together the above and other reasons lead me to conclude Chaotix is lying through his teeth of course about actually selling out his teammates, so we're ignoring him on that. Lynch today hopefully clears some things up, Backwards Logic having that scan is just amazing news otherwise and our Innocent group is still alive and strong, I'm liking our chances if the rest of you townies who should just step up and work with BL/Kage/me would do so. Visorslash may have some explanations out of this whole mess, or be a silly neutral or something, however I would NOT drop our other suspects like Greyblades anyway looking ahead to tomorrow.

[Romanic]

Who attacked when.


Anti Town

Sephiroth (aka green eyes killer)
N1 : ???
N2: Killed Diana [Evil] (Evil Mafia - Andross)
N3: Killed Zack [Evil] (Space Mafia - Klingon Assassin)
N4: Killed Beskar [Neutral] (Psychotic Mafia - Psycho Andy)
N5: Attacked Romanic, redirected on, and killed Ironside [Evil] (Cosa Nostra - Kansais C.)
N6: Attacked Romanic, redirected on but failed to kill, Skooma Addict.
N7: Killed Bow-wow-wow [Evil] (South Park Mafia - Beary the Bear)
Status: He's still alive

Unnamed killer (aka black wings killer)
N1: ???
N2: Killed Csargo [Evil] (South Park Mafia - Porcupiney)
N3: Killed choxorn [Evil] (Psychotic Mafia - J. Marshall)
N4: Attacked a woman, but she got away.
N5: Killed B_ray2 [Evil] (South Park Mafia - Squirrely)
N6: Killed Death is yonder [Evil] (Space Mafia - Darth Kojiro)
N7: Killed landlubber [Evil] (Cosa Nostra - S. Valerio)
Status: He's still alive

Seon CHAOTIC
N1: Killed ByzantineKnight [Evil] (Dark Falls - El Gigante)
Status: He's dead. Was killed in retaliation by ByzantineKnight. Good riddance. :smug2:

ArpegiatteTHIS SERIAL KILLER, Ganondorf
N1: Killed TheFlax [Evil] (Bizarro Mafia - Blitzen)
N2: Killed Backwards Logic [Evil] (Evil Mafia - Fire Brother)
Status: He's dead. Was killed in retaliation by Backwards Logic. Good riddance. :smug2:

Satan (massive figure, fireball killer, claimed by Chaotix CHAOTICLOVER)
N1: Killed Kagemusha [Evil] (Springfield Mafia - Itchy & Scratchy)
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: He's still alive. Not for long, hopefully. :smug2:


Unclear

Josh Timman (masked figure, chainsaw killer, claimed by Beefy)
N1: Killed classical_hero [Evil] (Python Mafia - Black Beast)
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: Killed Captain Blackadder2 [Evil] (Dark Falls - Claire Raval)
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: He's still alive

Vigilantes

*Known killer* Likely [Evil]
N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???
N6: Killed robbiecon [Evil] (Cosa Nostra - ATPG)
N7: ???
Status: Alive.

Unknown killers

Unknown killer (dark figure, energy bolt killer)
N1: Killed B_Ray [Evil] (Python Mafia - Killer Rabbit)
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: Unknown. If you are still alive and in the Evil Team, I would appreciate hearing from you, privately.

Unknown killer (strange being)
N1: ???
N2: Attacked, but failed to kill Earthling [Evil] (Python Mafia - The Black Knight)
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: Unknown. If you are still alive and in the Evil Team, I would appreciate hearing from you, privately.

Unknown killer (cloaked figure, electricity blast)
N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: Attacked, but failed to kill Earthling [Evil] (Python Mafia - The Black Knight)
N4: ???
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: Unknown. If you are still alive and in the Evil Team, I would appreciate hearing from you, privately.

Unknown killer (creature so dangerous, staring in the soul)
N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: Killed Jolt [Neutral] (Space Mafia - Bane Anded)
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: Unknown. If you are still alive and in the Evil Team, I would appreciate hearing from you, privately.

Unknown killer (figure using a bullet gun)
N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: Killed Autolycus [Evil] (Space Mafia - Lore)
N6: ???
N7: ???
Status: Unknown. If you are still alive and in the Evil Team, I would appreciate hearing from you, privately.

Unknown killer (lone figure, tearing people in half
N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???
N6: ???
N7: Killed Believer [Evil] (Springfield Mafia - Smithers)
Status: Unknown. If you are still alive and in the Evil Team, I would appreciate hearing from you, privately.


****
If you are one of the unknown killers, please claim your kill privately to me and I won't get your name out publicly. Alternatively you can speak with Backwards Logic, if you don't trust me.

Claiming your vigilante kill attempts will help us figure who the real suspects are. :bow:

[Diamondeye]

Sorry Romanic I can't claim to you in private (or at all) before I've been revived :tongue:

[Earthling]

Thanks for putting that list together, it's helpful.

A couple things I believe should be right:

The black wings killer on N4 seems to have attacked Blackadder, who got away from one attack, but then was killed by Beefy.

I am really pretty sure it was Jolt who attacked me. It explains Jolt's reaction and lies, Renata said both in private and in public that she thought Jolt had/continued to try and kill me (because she was trying to get Jolt to attack mythmonster instead). And he was obviously a Jedi/Sith hybrid guy throwing around force lightning.

I would speculate - and this is only speculation, that Diamondeye might have tried a vig-kill, maybe purchased, when Jolt was killed, the "White Eyes" and "staring" bit might add up, plus if an Innocent vig killed Jolt you'd think someone might have heard from them by now.

We should also add to the list people who claimed to have been attacked but are NOT IN THE WRITEUPS. (in other words, right now the list lists events in the writeups where we don't necessarily know the people, but there may be people who claim stuff that isn't in the writeups). Determining which of those were for real and if anyone claims responsibility for extra vig hits would help figure out total number of kills. For instance, Ironside said he was attacked Night One and since he is a dead Innocent that must've happened. Some people, like MRD, were needlessly lying, and I'm still not sure if I believe, say, Greyblades or Visorslash (both claiming they were attacked or at least feared attack from Renata) that somebody succeeded in a vig-hit on him that he also defended, all not happening in the writeup.

[Romanic]

Sorry Romanic I can't claim to you in private (or at all) before I've been revived :tongue:
Hang on, I'll see what I can do. :laugh4:


We should also add to the list people who claimed to have been attacked but are NOT IN THE WRITEUPS. (in other words, right now the list lists events in the writeups where we don't necessarily know the people, but there may be people who claim stuff that isn't in the writeups). Determining which of those were for real and if anyone claims responsibility for extra vig hits would help figure out total number of kills. For instance, Ironside said he was attacked Night One and since he is a dead Innocent that must've happened. Some people, like MRD, were needlessly lying, and I'm still not sure if I believe, say, Greyblades or Visorslash (both claiming they were attacked or at least feared attack from Renata) that somebody succeeded in a vig-hit on him that he also defended, all not happening in the writeup.
Hrm, do we really have people who claimed to have been attacked and it didn't show in the writeups?

I'll have to check that, but if you have a post number it would help. I would find it hard to believe someone was attacked and it's not reported in a writeup since we've seen many failed attempt being written.

Thanks for your other comments on night kills. I'll reread the writeups.

[Romanic]

I've been considering the possibility that Chaotic players don't get their credits back for lynching one of their own. It would make sense in my opinion.

If we believe this theory, there's interesting bets to look for.

Yaseikhaan
D6, #1447 Yaseikhaan bets 40 credits on Renata.
D6, #1640 Yaseikhaan moves his bet to Diamondeye but only bet 10 credits.

First, this has all the looks of bussing his teammate. When khaan moves his credits to DE, it was clear that he would get lynched anyway. Second, the difference in betting is interesting to note.

D7, #1820 Yaseikhaan bet 29 credits on Romanic, pushing me ahead of Diamondeye.
D7, #1903 Khaan fold, and vote 1 credit on Diamondeye.

Again, when khaan moves his credits, it's clear that Diamondeye will be lynched. Worse, it's clear that he will get all his credits back since we know that Diamondeye is Chaotic. Why bet only one credit on a known chaotic when *I*, a claimed reviver, was worth 29? Hrm.

[Romanic]

In blue, or it might not count.

Vote: Magnum to Romanic
Vote: all other items to Kagemusha

Can I get the Magnum? I already learned defensive abilities and wouldn't mind an extra 20%, if I'm going to be defending again. :beam:

Hey, bump this.

I want that Magnum for my protection. Current tally for this item is Kage 6, Romanic 2.

Not happy about being denied this request after being attacked twice by Sephiroth, and reviving two Evil players. :furious3:

[Earthling]

@Roman

Greyblades claimed he was attacked in post 856. I pointed out both Greyblades and Ironsides' claims (Ironside said something Day Two, could find it) in post #861.

Major Robert Dump admitted he was purposefully lying the first few days and was not attacked so we ignore that. Other than these cases, not sure I remember anyone else claiming they were attacked and it didn't appear in the writeup. With Greyblades/Visorslash more recently I'm not sure what they are claiming, all the "waah Renata had someone attack me" that's gone on I'm not sure what they're trying to imply, just that Renata wanted them dead or claiming some other character actually succeeded in an attack effort against them.

For Ironside, he claimed he was attacked at the very start and it activated a self-protection hidden talent for him, and he was consistent in that claim, and since he died and turned up evil, seems like it was true. No clue who attacked him N1 though.

Regarding Yaseikhaan - the thing is in what you quoted he had just joined as a replacement, mythmonster struck me as strongly Innocent and Renata stole that character's item proving he did have a vigilante item. mythmonster obviously was antagonistic with Renata; Yaseikhaan might not have had all the private communications or same thoughts mythmonster had and ended up changing his mind. I can't take that alone as good evidence of scumminess. What I do question is why there were two vigilantes (both him and Beefy) on the Psychotic Mafia and while mythmonster refused to it would be nice if Yaseikhaan talked a little bit more about his role or faction.

I also still haven't heard anything about Winston lately (replaced GamezRule, been quiet since he was a replacement). If this "Lover" business was meant to be resolved I'd perhaps look at these replacements, again I don't believe Visorslash is being honest about his role's relation to the whole lover problem but it has to be someone. (or if it's a real inactive like Red_Spy we'll never find out but oh well). For being completely inactive just like these other replacements I don't think Winston is one of the main killers though.

[Romanic]

Indeed Greyblades did claim having been attacked on N3,


Ok, which one of you mooks tried to kill me last night?

But the only attack we've seen in the writeup is a failed attack on the Black Knight, claimed by Earthling. Hrm, hrm...

His explanation in the thread was the following:

I'm not the Black knight, but I wish I was, I've just got a bullet-proof ability that was activated by the attempt last night. I'm not fully sure it was a kill attempt though; my results just said someone tried to attack me so it could have been some sort of roleblock ability that includes knocking me out or something.

@Greyblades: Can you paraphrase the result PM you got on Night 3, or even better quote it? [it's not forbidden by the ruiles to quote a PM, unless it's your role PM]

I'd like to believe you, and this is suspicious. Convince me.

[seireikhaan]

I've been considering the possibility that Chaotic players don't get their credits back for lynching one of their own. It would make sense in my opinion.

If we believe this theory, there's interesting bets to look for.

Yaseikhaan
D6, #1447 Yaseikhaan bets 40 credits on Renata.
D6, #1640 Yaseikhaan moves his bet to Diamondeye but only bet 10 credits.

First, this has all the looks of bussing his teammate. When khaan moves his credits to DE, it was clear that he would get lynched anyway. Second, the difference in betting is interesting to note.

D7, #1820 Yaseikhaan bet 29 credits on Romanic, pushing me ahead of Diamondeye.
D7, #1903 Khaan fold, and vote 1 credit on Diamondeye.

Again, when khaan moves his credits, it's clear that Diamondeye will be lynched. Worse, it's clear that he will get all his credits back since we know that Diamondeye is Chaotic. Why bet only one credit on a known chaotic when *I*, a claimed reviver, was worth 29? Hrm.
We'll see if that holds up when Chaotix is lynched. :wink:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Round ended at 0100


Need to do a tally.

[Romanic]

We'll see if that holds up when Chaotix is lynched. :wink:

I don't know what you mean by that. Chaotix will turn up Scum, it's a gimme, and it doesn't change the fact that you've bet high on the alternative bandwagons to Diamondeye, and consequently bet small on Diamondeye when he became a clear lynch. The lynch result won't change anything to my accusation against you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Chaotix is lynched, all items to Kage, as expected.

Writeup to follow.

(Tommy gun)

Kage- Visor, Earthling, Romanic, shlin, Psychonaut, Kage, Skooma, Arpeg


(Magnum)

Kage- Visor, Earthling, shlin, Kage, Skooma, Arpeg
Romanic- Romanic, Psychonaut



(Wolfen Fighter)


Kage- Visor, Earthling, Romanic, shlin, Psychonaut, Kage, Skooma, Arpeg




(Bear claw)

Kage- Visor, Earthling, Romanic, shlin, Psychonaut, Kage, Skooma, Arpeg
Beefy- Beefy, Skooma




. (Traitorous elf)

Kage- Visor, Earthling, Romanic, shlin, Psychonaut, Kage, Skooma, Arpeg









LYNCH

Chaotix (BL 15, Greyblades 20, Romanic 10, Visor 50, CR 20, Psychonaut 31, Yasei 39, Kage 75, dcmort 10, Skooma 1, ACIN 1, Winston 10, shlin 20, Arpeg 40, GE 20, Earthling 5, :skull:

God Emperor (Beefy 5
Beefy (Chaotix 44

[Visor]

I was never attacked. People tried to attack me, but failed. I was never informed by ATPG of an attack on my person.

[Winston Hughes]

I also still haven't heard anything about Winston lately

~:wave:

[Choxorn]

Sephiroth - Beefy, aka Satanic Teacher Josh Timman of the Psycho Mafia.
Reenkis Roinkis - Fluffy, aka Advice Dog of the Bizarro Mafia.


I've said it before, I'll say it again: Cool story bro.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY EIGHT




In this life I'm me just sitting here alone
By the way I tried to say I'd be there for you
Walk the silent emptiness that leads me by my hands
And throw away what I don't understand, as a man

Love Hate
Sex Pain
It's complicating me sometimes
This Love Hate
Sex Pain
it's underestimated lies

And I wonder as I tear away my skin
It's taken me so long to stitch
These wounds from where I've been
And mother please don't bury me
I'm begging for my life
It's hard to say that I will be complete
Before I die

Love Hate
Sex Pain
It's complicating me sometimes
This Love Hate
Sex Pain
it's underestimated lies

Don't you worry please
Don't you leave me
Because I surely slip away
Though love, hate, sex, and pain
I fall away into
Love, hate sex, and pain


-- Godsmack



https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/hell.jpg



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The crowd gathered together in the center of the burning city. The Angel was waiting for them.



Angel: "Who is it this time?"



The crowd had decided almost unanimously, that it had to be Chaotix who was the Chaotic one among them. It was even in his name, for the love of snakes.


Angel: "Do you have any last words?"



Chaotix: "All will bow down before me, for I am the ruler of all that is evil... I am the King of Evil! Satan incarnate!"



Angel: "Nobody here believes that."



Chaotix: "Very well.... then I shall show you my TRUE FORM. Look upon me, and fear me...."





https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Dodongo.png


INFERNAL DINOSAUR
KING DODONGO



The gigantic body of Satan transformed into the even more gigantic body of King Dodongo, which transformed into a ball and began rolling around the burning city, totally immune to the effects of the fire and the magma.... in fact it seemed to prefer it that way. The other evil creatures dove for cover, trying to hide behind burning buildings, piles of concrete, anything they could find.


The one who was leading the charge against Dodongo, the Fire Brother, fired as many fireballs as he could, but they just bounced off the creature's rocky shell. The rest of the creatures opened fire, but none of their weapons had any effect on the creature. It was as if the shell was indestructible.



Angel: "This ends now."


The Angel cast a powerful black magic spell upon King Dodongo, reducing him in strength to a massive degree, leaving him with a single hit point remaining.


King Dodongo roared, and doused The Angel with a torrent of fire. The Angel emerged unscathed. However, King Dodongo had followed up with a roll, and before The Angel could move out of the way, Dodongo crushed the figure beneath its massive frame, and continued rolling.


As the Angel stood, it shed a broken wing. The scarred figure looked at King Dodongo with fury in its green eye, and made a long, slender blade materialize. With his primary weapon in hand, the angel ran up to King Dodongo and unleashed a devastating multi-stike. The blade easily pierced through the armor of King Dodongo, mortally wounding the creature.


Chaotix: "No..... no..... I'm not finished...... not yet...."




The gigantic armored form of King Dodongo began to vanish, leaving behind a small human figure.




https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Kafei.jpg



Chaotix: "Anju, where are you? Our love has conquered all before, and it could happen again.... please, reveal yourself to me...."



Angel: "How weak and pathetic you are. Feel the desperation in your heart.... know that death awaits you. Know that the darkness will claim the light of your soul. Shall I give you pain? Or is the knowledge of your eternal separation from your beloved enough to make you beg for merciful destruction?"



Chaotix: "Anju.... why did you not come back for me?"



With a quick thrust, the Angel impaled Chaotix through the heart, spilling his blood down his tiny frame.



Angel: "Now die alone, wretched mortal."



The crowd had already left. The center of the city was not a safe place for anyone to gather.




______________________________




Summary of events:





Chaotix has been lynched!

Chaotix was Satan, of the South Park Mafia Faction!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Satan.png

Chaotix was KING DODONGO, of ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Dodongo.png

Chaotix was CHAOTIC!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/51.png

2 of Hearts

Chaotix was KAFEI, of ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Kafei.jpg

Chaotix was ANJU'S LOVER!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/7.png

King of Hearts















Escaped- (VICTORIOUS)

Renata- Mace Windu [Good] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia IV- Star Wars: The Fallen (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?116976-Mini-Mafia-IV-%28Concluded%29)) 7 of Spades
-------------Night Six


Alive Players- (22/50)

A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS2 (Replacing Classical_Hero2)
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Crazed Rabbit
dcmort93
Earthling
Fluffyone
God Emperor
Greyblades
Link
Kagemusha
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Warman
Winston Hughes (Replacing GamezRule)
Yaseikhaan (Replacing Mythmonster2)

Deceased-

Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) Ace of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three
choxorn- Satanic Choir Director James Marshall [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Spades
Zack- Klingon Assassin [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia V- Star Trek (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Spades
-------------Night Three
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four
Beskar- Detective Psycho Andy [Neutral] Psychotic Mafia (Psycho Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 5 of Diamonds
Jolt- Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded [Neutral] Space Mafia (Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Clubs
Captain Blackadder2- Claire Raval [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 5 of Spades
-------------Night Four
(No one)
-------------Day Five
B_Ray2- Squirrely the Squirrel [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 3 of Hearts
Autolycus- Android Lore [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia VII- Star Trek TNG (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120373-Mini-Mafia-VII)) 4 of Diamonds
Ironside- Kansas C. Smith [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Resident Evil: Omega (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117441-Resident-Evil-Omega-%28Concluded%29)) Queen of Diamonds
-------------Night Five
(revived)
-------------Day Six
Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy [Evil] Cosa Nostra (The Golden Rule (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?110184-The-Golden-Rule-%28Concluded%29)) King of Diamonds
Death is yonder- Darth Kojiro, Dark Lord of the Sith [Evil] Space Mafia (Star Wars- Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Diamonds
-------------Night Six
Diamondeye- White_Eyes:D/CRAZED RABBIT [CHAOTIC] Cosa Nostra(CAPO DI TUTTI CAPI III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119802-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-III-%28Concluded%29)) 10 of Spades
-------------Day Seven
Believer- Waylon Smithers [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)) Queen of Spades
landlubber- Salvatore Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Diamonds
Bow-wow-wow- Beary the Bear [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 5 of Clubs
-------------Night Seven
Chaotix- Satan/KING DODONGO [CHAOTIC] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 2 of Hearts
Chaotix- King Dodongo/KAFEI [ANJU'S LOVER] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) King of Hearts
-------------Day Eight




All items to Kagemusha.

All wagers on Chaotix were successful.


BEGIN NIGHT EIGHT.

[Visor]

:D

Looks like I'm still kicking Chaotix. :P

For how long though? :(

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally fixed for over-betting.

[Visor]

Visorslash - I'd like an explanation as to how you learned of the "Lovers" situation and the mysterious information/informant you've mentioned before that makes you know Warman or fluffy or whomever is Innocent. Your claim to actually be one of these Lovers yourself is bad and you need to drop it, if you're lying or joking, too much confusion. If it's true, that makes you look like some neutral or third party at best and I still don't believe you're evil at all. It also really begs the question why you killed Believer if you were the other "Lover" yourself.

I have no informant. I have based everything of my own ideas and knowledge. I was lying to Chaotix to get the item off him. I didn't kill Believer. I asked for him to be killed. And roleblocked as well. I did the same for Chaotix. I was wrong about one, but right about the other. So very right.

[Visor]

As the Angel stood, it shed a broken wing. The scarred figure looked at King Dodongo with fury in its green eye, and made a long, slender blade materialize. With his primary weapon in hand, the angel ran up to King Dodongo and unleashed a devastating multi-stike. The blade easily pierced through the armor of King Dodongo, mortally wounding the creature.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like Sephiroth, or whatever his name is?

[Diamondeye]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like Sephiroth, or whatever his name is?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_MW65XxS7s

[Greyblades]

But the only attack we've seen in the writeup is a failed attack on the Black Knight, claimed by Earthling. Hrm, hrm...

His explanation in the thread was the following:


@Greyblades: Can you paraphrase the result PM you got on Night 3, or even better quote it? [it's not forbidden by the ruiles to quote a PM, unless it's your role PM]

I'd like to believe you, and this is suspicious. Convince me.
You find wanting to believe me suspicious? God, theres no convincing people.

Someone tried to attack you during the night, but they failed. It activated your hidden talent:
Thats it.

[Visor]

I assume you want me to watch that?

Can't you just say yes or no?


Someone tried to attack you during the night, but they failed. It activated your hidden talent:

I'd say...... bulletproof? Or retaliation?

[Diamondeye]

Can't you just say yes or no?

Probably, if I were alive. Hint hint.

[Greyblades]

Bulletproof, and no I'm not giving more details on that.

[Visor]

Right... so either the Angel itself is a chaotic, or it is masquerading as chaotic.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.


Bulletproof, and no I'm not giving more details on that.

I know all the details. It's earlier in the thread.

[Greyblades]

No, you dont knw the name or the percentage of it. I'm keeping those to myself thanks.

[Jolt]

I am really pretty sure it was Jolt who attacked me. It explains Jolt's reaction and lies, Renata said both in private and in public that she thought Jolt had/continued to try and kill me (because she was trying to get Jolt to attack mythmonster instead). And he was obviously a Jedi/Sith hybrid guy throwing around force lightning.

I have already disproved your theories about me attacking you and my "reaction" (To which I did insist very much for you to explain how my "reaction" was scummy, which you did not, but since you're a joker, I won't ask you to again.) and "lies", so I'm grabbing this post for the bolded part.

Where did Renata publicly state this?

[thefluffyone93]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAm5UCJ9vA

[Earthling]

Jolt, you should stop pretending you can't read and go read the thread. You have not provided any alternative thoughts or evidence and it's very obvious that your character is almost certainly responsible for attacking me. If you intend to purposefully break the rules and claim something while dead that you're not allowed to reveal, do so, and then get yourself banned from speaking in the thread again, and we're all happy.

Visorslash you need to stop lying. You've been claiming for several days that someone else was giving you information, including why you think some people were Innocent, made your big list etc., and also why you went after this Lovers business.


Thanks to information from a new friend, we should NOT lynch Diamondeye. Otherwise they will keep reviving him or Seon every night phase and keep killing us as well. We NEED to find the reviver badly.

I can claim for sure it isn't Warman and that he is town. I'm willing to bet that Greyblades is town considering recent actions. I am not like Romanic's actions at the moment, or the fact that Red SPy has't been replaced. Either he is away, which I doubt, or he is lurking. (Most likely as mafia.)

Either way, Fold; Bet: 5 Red Spy


Well I only learnt it recently, around six hours ago. Only around four people have recieved it, one of which is Greyblades, who has not vouched, but has not been against me either.

Another is Romanic, who has not been online yet I believe, Psychonaut has also recieved it, and commented.

So you've been consistently claiming someone else has been giving you information, which if true should be shared with the rest of us. It's especially unexplained where you got this idea about the Lovers in the first place, it's suspicious and you haven't provided us a lead on the other Lover after all, who it seems won't be evil aligned either.

Here's the to-do list otherwise:

Beefy vigilante kills Greyblades. I strongly think this should be Beefy's mission without a very good reason why not, because Greyblades is our strongest chaotic candidate right now and Beefy killing a chaotic is the best way to prove he's a legitimate non-chaotic vigilante.
Anyone else willing to cooperate vig kills other lurker-scum from the rough list of Warman, Rabbit, Psychonaut, Subotan unless they give us a public reason why not.

We have about a dozen people who are basically impossible to be the chaotic killers, and while I wouldn't mind if any other neutrals/non-evils also bit the bullet we don't need to waste time on purpose, and inactives I'd put lower priority to vig-kill, so really we can wrap this up. Obviously any scans/roleblocks should be coordinated to not overlap wastefully with vig kills either.

[Greyblades]

Beefy vigilante kills Greyblades. I strongly think this should be Beefy's mission without a very good reason why not, because Greyblades is our strongest chaotic candidate right now and Beefy killing a chaotic is the best way to prove he's a legitimate non-chaotic vigilante.Ok, firstly, who voted you town leader?
Secondly have I said go to hell recently Earthling? I'm not chaotic [Insert derogative noun here] that won't work in proving he's town, the only one saying I'm scum is you and a disgruntled neutral, your case is flimsy, your instincts are sloppy and you have quite afew people more likely to be chaotic than me, every lurker for a start. I'm town I have acted for town, maybe exactly to the best effect but I'm trying, and to be frank if I have to move heaven and earth I am not going to die just because a [Insert derogative noun here] like you says so.

[Earthling]

If you're town then you should go kill one of the lurkers yourself, take out Rabbit or Warman or Skooma or someone already listed as a scum suspect by your own efforts, and like I said before, new character in the writeup vig-kills a chaotic and they are in the clear. Even if you, or Beefy, or whomever kill someone not chaotic it could still be a neutral and at worst a lurker who is doing no good for the town anyway. You continue to claim and do nothing that actually indicates you are evil-aligned so it's your own fault that your remain on the suspect list. Complete inactives and people already proven Innocent are not going to be the green-eyes or black-wings killer. It's really pretty simple, and impossible for us to lose if we follow through, everyone with BL/Kage/me/Roman is Innocent and we simply need to get rid of all the remaining chaotics, I'm going to work to kill as many of you people as possible until the chaotics are dead.

[Romanic]

I don't know what you mean by that. Chaotix will turn up Scum, it's a gimme, and it doesn't change the fact that you've bet high on the alternative bandwagons to Diamondeye, and consequently bet small on Diamondeye when he became a clear lynch. The lynch result won't change anything to my accusation against you.
(following my reply to khaan)

Alright, I get what you meant. You bet 39 credits on Chaotix this day phase, destroying my theory that you are betting low because you're not getting your credit back.

Fine, fine, great Khan. I'll find some other dirt to accuse you with. :beam:

[Romanic]

You find wanting to believe me suspicious? God, theres no convincing people.


Someone tried to attack you during the night, but they failed. It activated your hidden talent:

Thats it.
Alright Greyblades.

If someone received a similar PM from ATPG ("someone failed against you, and it activated your hidden talent"), I'd like to confirm that the format was similar to what Greyblades just posted.

Anyway, I'm tempted to believe Greyblades, mostly for his D6 bet on Diamondeye, thus I don't think he should be a vigilante target tonight.

[Greyblades]

If you're town then you should go kill one of the lurkers yourself, take out Rabbit or Warman or Skooma or someone already listed as a scum suspect by your own efforts, and like I said before, new character in the writeup vig-kills a chaotic and they are in the clear. Even if you, or Beefy, or whomever kill someone not chaotic it could still be a neutral and at worst a lurker who is doing no good for the town anyway. You continue to claim and do nothing that actually indicates you are evil-aligned so it's your own fault that your remain on the suspect list. Complete inactives and people already proven Innocent are not going to be the green-eyes or black-wings killer. It's really pretty simple, and impossible for us to lose if we follow through, everyone with BL/Kage/me/Roman is Innocent and we simply need to get rid of all the remaining chaotics, I'm going to work to kill as many of you people as possible until the chaotics are dead.

Then you are not doing a very good job at it. God you are the most scumtastic townie I have ever met... Save fluffy anyway. You would have been lynched days ago if you werent a confirmed townie, heck you were lynched days ago.
And no I'm not going to kill for you do it yourself and stop hiding behind vigilantes, you're coming off as a less subtle reneta.

[Jolt]

Jolt, you should stop pretending you can't read and go read the thread. You have not provided any alternative thoughts or evidence and it's very obvious that your character is almost certainly responsible for attacking me. If you intend to purposefully break the rules and claim something while dead that you're not allowed to reveal, do so, and then get yourself banned from speaking in the thread again, and we're all happy.

So, you were lying yet again, as Renata's statement that I was trying to attack you, doesn't exist. I thought as much.

[Jolt]

Alright Greyblades.

If someone received a similar PM from ATPG ("someone failed against you, and it activated your hidden talent"), I'd like to confirm that the format was similar to what Greyblades just posted.

Anyway, I'm tempted to believe Greyblades, mostly for his D6 bet on Diamondeye, thus I don't think he should be a vigilante target tonight.

I'll remind you that him being attack doesn't mean that he isn't mafia. The hit wasn't reported in the write-up and even being true, it could very well had been a attempt vig hit or attempt from someone to uncover a hidden ability.

[Earthling]

No, Jolt, Renata publicly said she was trying to get you to attack mythmonster instead of me. You just can't read.

[Winston Hughes]

To whom it concerns: the item in question gives a 10% chance of protecting someone against attack.

[Romanic]

I'll remind you that him being attack doesn't mean that he isn't mafia. The hit wasn't reported in the write-up and even being true, it could very well had been a attempt vig hit or attempt from someone to uncover a hidden ability.
Yes I'm aware of that Jolt. Being attacked doesn't prove much, unless you've been attacked by the two main killers (Sephiroth and "black wings") who are likely chaotics. Any other attacker doesn't mean much, as it could be a vigilante attempt.

My main reason to think Greyblades is Evil, is his D6 voting, and some thread behavior.

[Earthling]

Actually a discovery from this deal of Jolt being an annoying liar again, brought me to look at some of Renata's and Greyblades posts:

In particular, the continuing nonsense claims of Greyblades vs. Renata on vigilante attacks, some other posts are worth reading but in particular I'd mention

posts 1332 and 1333.

Now, YASEIKHAAN, Can you confirm whether you actually carried out an attack order on Greyblades on Night Three? If you didn't, and certainly nobody else probably vig-targeted Greyblades the same night, this is pretty much over and Greyblades is a liar who has to die. Renata/former mythmonster made a big deal of this whole thing before but if we really want to figure out the answer for Greyblades people should read over this again and get an answer from him, sounds like he is lying obviously as things stand now.

[Greyblades]

So if Yaseikhaan says he didnt do it, your argument over my word that I was attacked is... Mythmonster's word that he didn't manage to do it? That's it?

[thefluffyone93]

Then you are not doing a very good job at it. God you are the most scumtastic townie I have ever met... Save fluffy anyway. You would have been lynched days ago if you werent a confirmed townie, heck you were lynched days ago.
And no I'm not going to kill for you do it yourself and stop hiding behind vigilantes, you're coming off as a less subtle reneta.


...Save fluffy anyway.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/dosequis.png?t=1306194943

[Greyblades]

Considering I have you as a teacher, I will have no trouble doing so if I so wished.

[Jolt]

No, Jolt, Renata publicly said she was trying to get you to attack mythmonster instead of me. You just can't read.

Quote the post then. :laugh4:

Though I'm sure that won't happen.

[seireikhaan]

Actually a discovery from this deal of Jolt being an annoying liar again, brought me to look at some of Renata's and Greyblades posts:

In particular, the continuing nonsense claims of Greyblades vs. Renata on vigilante attacks, some other posts are worth reading but in particular I'd mention

posts 1332 and 1333.

Now, YASEIKHAAN, Can you confirm whether you actually carried out an attack order on Greyblades on Night Three? If you didn't, and certainly nobody else probably vig-targeted Greyblades the same night, this is pretty much over and Greyblades is a liar who has to die. Renata/former mythmonster made a big deal of this whole thing before but if we really want to figure out the answer for Greyblades people should read over this again and get an answer from him, sounds like he is lying obviously as things stand now.
As far as I know, I/Mythmonster never attacked him. However, I've no idea what my previous night actions were, so its a bit hard to tell. I did have a sword, which was present in the N3 writeup, but that's about the only connection I can draw.

[Greyblades]

Now, YASEIKHAAN, Can you confirm whether you actually carried out an attack order on Greyblades on Night Three? If you didn't, and certainly nobody else probably vig-targeted Greyblades the same night, this is pretty much over and Greyblades is a liar who has to die. Renata/former mythmonster made a big deal of this whole thing before but if we really want to figure out the answer for Greyblades people should read over this again and get an answer from him, sounds like he is lying obviously as things stand now.Ok I'm going over this again, why are you so sure that Khaan and mythmonster could be the only ones who could attack me when vigilante actions are free?

[Earthling]

Because that's a lie, vigilante actions aren't free for everyone without special items or abilities, neither are roleblocks as you claimed earlier, and nobody else had motivation to attack you or has claimed to do so. Your claim also directly contradicts Ironsides' claim, the other guy who claimed to be attack when we didn't see it in the writeup, but he said ATPG told him only a successful attempt against him would activate his hidden talent (and it did). Your claim that a completely failed attack activated your hidden talent and you were told about it is unreasonable and scummy given that nothing you've ever done has otherwise been accounted for.

Yaseikhaan you should surely be able to ask the host about your previous actions, get things confirmed for sure, it would be nice to know who mythmonster actually attacked.

Jolt, it's 1377, now would you please stop lying and leave the thread alone.

I'd like to ask Visorslash again to present his evidence on why Warman and fluffy are Innocent.

[Greyblades]

Because that's a lie, vigilante actions aren't free for everyone without special items or abilities, neither are roleblocks as you claimed earlier
And now you are lying:


Answer: Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.

1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vig-kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver

(switch two players so the effects applied to each will apply to the other... useful as a defensive or offensive weapon)

12. Steal item
13. Steal credits Derp. Dunno what I was thinking. You always have to spend credits to steal credits.
Or your just irreversably stupid, I'm not going to bet on the former.

and nobody else had motivation to attack you or has claimed to do so.
I believe that was the entire reason I was peed off about it: someone was killing indiscriminately and they went after me

[thefluffyone93]

Now for a completely irrelevant meme.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/sagan.png?t=1306259063

[Diamondeye]

Now for a completely irrelevant meme.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/sagan.png?t=1306259063

See this is just wicked. Wicked awesome.

I agree with the purple Pizza quote.

[Earthling]

Greyblades I'm assuming you're not incapable of understanding the rules at this point so you are lying. Renata and everybody else pointed out you were wrong about claiming this before about roleblocks or whatever too. Everybody doesn't get to perform those actions for free. If you don't have a talent you perform those actions at 0% chance of success. Doesn't happen. Doesn't work. And again, Ironsides' claim about himself being attacked said that his hidden talent wouldn't have been activated if it wasn't a real attack against him. Somebody trying a freebie and failing does not seem like a possible explanation for your claim.

[Greyblades]

Oh yeah, Except no, you can use one item and one action each night if you so choose, my roleblock is an item and protecting myself is an unpaid yet money based action. Quid quo frigging pro. Now go away.
Proof:

12. Night- Actions

Every player can perform either zero, one, or two actions every night, and no more than that. These actions are often less than 100% effective. Failed actions will usually not be reported in the public writeups.

Players can choose one action apiece from a maximum of two of the following categories:


1. Item-based actions. Example: "I use my gun to shoot Seamus Fermanagh"
2. Money-based actions. Example: "I spend 50 credits to protect Seamus Fermanagh"
3. Skill-based actions. Example: "I roleblock Seamus Fermanagh." (note, no items or money indicated here, so neither will be used in this action)


Skill-based actions are useful in determining if you have hidden, innate abilities to perform certain tasks. Every character in the game has one hidden talent, and some can be found via this method.
Some characters begin the game with an already learned ability that requires no items or credits to perform, and they will execute such actions with a great degree of skill. Other characters can learn such skills from repeated attempts at performing that task, especially if they are done successfully.
No matter what, only a maximum of two actions allowed per player per night phase.


Example: "Tonight I protect Sasaki Kojiro with my magic shield. I also spend 25 credits scanning Seamus Fermanagh with a faction scan." (bolded parts are the key bits of information I need. You do not need to bold these. Send orders via private message only.)
Edit: oh look at that another point of yours shot down:

Failed actions will usually not be reported in the public writeups. Seeing as it was a failed attempt to kill me it didnt show up on the writeup, sorry to dissapoi- Oh wait. No I'm not.

[Earthling]

No, you are still lying and didn't address anything I said. A person who does NOT have an item or talent cannot perform an action like a vig kill, roleblock, whatever for free. There is 0% chance of success without an item or talent.

There is still no indication you were attacked or performed a single night action you ever claimed to perform. Even if you were attacked you were not attacked by scum, at best some lazy vigilante, so it doesn't indicate you are not chaotic either. And your statement that your hidden talent was activated by a failed freebie attempt directly contradicts what another proven Innocent player said. You've got to have some more useful evidence to prove you're not completely lying, and you already have been scummy this whole time, fighting with Renata, lying about your votes and actions back on mythmonster, editing your post to lie to Renata, and more.

as for Visorslash, if you are town you've still gotta share more, so...


There are other people worth entrusting it to, you do realise that? I don't trust you, Renata or ACIN. I trusted Autolycus and Backwards Logic.

Believer also has my trust.

What happened to this by the way? And back then, around Night Five, you said you were informing "people you trust" of important information, whatever happened to that.

[Greyblades]

Read the edited version, I wasnt done.

[Greyblades]

Blasted internet, double posted, pizza could you delete this one.

[Earthling]

Also we have another extremely important reason to kill Greyblades, from earlier in the thread.


If Greyblades is not Mafia, then I won't say another word in this game.

[Greyblades]

Heh, didn't think he had a sense of humor.

[Earthling]

Yeah it's easy to miss Jolt actually saying anything useful or constructive or funny amidst his constant lies.

[Jolt]

Jolt, it's 1377, now would you please stop lying and leave the thread alone.

*facepalm*

As you can read from that post, she is saying that because obviously in that turn you were calling me and CR out to attack you (Curious dare, coming from a Joker role :laugh4:). It was equally obvious you stinked too much of being scummy and that you were either going to be vig killed that night or lynched the next day. I was going to attack you that turn, using my Killer Rabbit item. So Renata approached me did say that since you have that magical shield of yours and my Killer Rabbit had so little success chance, she gave arguments as to why mythmonster was a much more viable target than you. As I knew success against your protection item was nigh impossible with a 10% chance item, I just figured you'd be lynched the next day (As you were), so I went with Renata's recommendation.

So she isn't saying that I was the one behind your previous attacks. She was merely trying to steer me away from attacking you that turn. So I believe this is my turn to say "Read the goddamn thread." :grin:

EDIT: We shall see in the end about Greyblades.

[Earthling]

Renata had been organizing vigilante-ing before that and we have no evidence at all you ever did anything else, certainly you didn't protect/roleblock/help anyone else as a neutral. Plus, again, the writeup matches your character several times. Jolt, you have two options again - how about you read the thread and name the Star Wars character, who is not Renata or Death is Yonder, who attacked me. Or, if you're trying to break the rules and lie, just go ahead and claim "these were my actions Night whatever," doesn't even matter if you lie because then you've broken the rules about revealing stuff while you are dead and shouldn't be allowed to mess around on the thread again. Given that you were willing to go attack people at night and others like Renata openly knew about this, and your role matches the writeup, and nobody else does, and your night actions are entirely unaccounted for, there's no other conclusion we can draw.

By the way, again, I'm not a Joker role, you keep lying about that but it's not true. I have the standard evil-aligned mafia team victory and I've been working towards that this entire game. And nor do I have a protection item, a protection item also did not protect me from any prior attacks, but you can keep on lying about that too, your own problem, it's incredibly obvious by now in the writeups that all "magical shields" indicate protection abilities.

[Greyblades]

I dont realy understand why he would think you are a joker, jokers are useless if they cant die.

[Earthling]

Because he's been lying about everything he possibly can, both when alive and now that he's dead. We also don't even know his victory conditions, not even the Space mafia faction victory, so he has possibly been trying to get certain living players killed for that faction victory. He even got into irrelevant nonsense trying to say we shouldn't revive Beskar, as if another dead neutral really matters to that situation at all, he's just in the way.

That doesn't mean he's not right about you though, you've been lying, crazy defensive, edited your posts to lie or encourage further conflict, etc. If you're not dead in the morning and we don't have another perfect lead like the last scan on Chaotix you're probably my top candidate to lynch.

[Greyblades]

Heh, I'm glad your not the only confirmed townie.

[Earthling]

Well sure the chaotics are glad for that, because if it wasn't for Backwards Logic and several days of failure on trusting Renata and vigilante-ing the wrong people we would be a lot better off against them.

[Greyblades]

...We killed off 3 chaotics I dont think we're in dire straits exactly.

[Jolt]

Renata had been organizing vigilante-ing before that and we have no evidence at all you ever did anything else, certainly you didn't protect/roleblock/help anyone else as a neutral.

Once again your "facts". How do you know for certain that I haven't roleblocked or protect someone else? Is it the same certainty that you knew you were right about MRD being Mafia?


Plus, again, the writeup matches your character several times. Jolt, you have two options again - how about you read the thread and name the Star Wars character, who is not Renata or Death is Yonder, who attacked me.

Here's a tip. Star Wars evil very usually means a Sith. To my best knowledge, Siths also use cowls and use Force Lightning. But I'll reask the same question, I asked a while ago that you ignored: If I did attack you, why the hell would I have gone and started asking about my own attack, including asking about Greyblades if he was the Black Knight when, if I had really attacked you, I knew he wasn't. It's stupid and attracts attention to myself, and if I wanted to keep killing and keeping a low profile (Since I'm not Mafia and thus wouldn't be a mafioso target, as you can see by all the lurkers who aren't being attacked) I wouldn't have said anything. In fact, the fact that I went and inquired into who was attacked and successfully defended itself actually shows a townie behaviour rather than a mafioso one. But please, do explain why the hell did I go out and started a public discussion into my "own" attack on you.


Or, if you're trying to break the rules and lie, just go ahead and claim "these were my actions Night whatever," doesn't even matter if you lie because then you've broken the rules about revealing stuff while you are dead and shouldn't be allowed to mess around on the thread again.

Something that is bugging me: Why do you keep asking me to try and break the rules?


By the way, again, I'm not a Joker role.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

But I'm glad you acknowledged that you were actually wrong in saying that Renata publicly said I was the one behind your attempted attacks. I thought as much.

[Greyblades]

Here's a tip. Star Wars evil very usually means a Sith. To my best knowledge, Siths also use cowls and use Force Lightning. But I'll reask the same question, I asked a while ago that you ignored: If I did attack you, why the hell would I have gone and started asking about my own attack, including asking about Greyblades if he was the Black Knight when, if I had really attacked you, I knew he wasn't. It's stupid and attracts attention to myself, and if I wanted to keep killing and keeping a low profile (Since I'm not Mafia and thus wouldn't be a mafioso target, as you can see by all the lurkers who aren't being attacked) I wouldn't have said anything. In fact, the fact that I went and inquired into who was attacked and successfully defended itself actually shows a townie behaviour rather than a mafioso one. But please, do explain why the hell did I go out and started a public discussion into my "own" attack on you.
Jolt, the "why would I if I were guilty" argument doesnt realy fly well with earthling, or with anyone realy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Even I can't read all this.

[thefluffyone93]

Even I can't read all this.

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/troll.png?t=1306276459

[seireikhaan]

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/troll.png?t=1306276459
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: I love you, Fluffy.

Ok, so I think I've gotten a grasp on previous night actions. Here we go for y'all.

Night one, tried using sword to vig CR, as well as vig Jolt, through pure skill.
Night two, tried using sword to vig renata, as well as spending 25 credits to scan B-Ray.
Night five, tried using sword to vig Visorlash, as well as protecting self, through skill.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you guys aren't on the Fluffy fanwagon, what in the blue heck are you waiting for?

[Subotan]

So I'm just going to blatantly ignore the 800 posts of dialogue that I've been unable to read due to my high IRL workload and make a gutsy call based on the last five posts:

Bet:70 Credits on Fluffy

Anything that can be voted to me, vote it to me.

SOMETIMES YOU'VE JUST GOTTA ROLL THE HARD SIX

EDIT: Jokers are, um, to use a technical term, bastard hosting. I don't think ATPG would have included them in any of his games without informing us at the start that there were some in-game.

[Greyblades]

Anyone want to tell him its night or should I?

[Romanic]

So I'm just going to blatantly ignore the 800 posts of dialogue that I've been unable to read due to my high IRL workload and make a gutsy call based on the last five posts:

Bet:70 Credits on Fluffy

Anything that can be voted to me, vote it to me.

SOMETIMES YOU'VE JUST GOTTA ROLL THE HARD SIX

EDIT: Jokers are, um, to use a technical term, bastard hosting. I don't think ATPG would have included them in any of his games without informing us at the start that there were some in-game.

We're night Subotan! :furious3:

[Subotan]

...And that's how far out of the loop I am. My bad :shame:

[Jolt]

Jolt, the "why would I if I were guilty" argument doesnt realy fly well with earthling, or with anyone realy.

Nothing flies well with Earthling. And I don't certainly care if it flies well with you either. I had already explained that I'm not the only Jedi/Sith. Since that has already been said, I simply showed why if I was scum, doing what I did would be stupid. The fact that I was murdered by the Mafia shows that I was being a good townie thus far. And being a good townie, I want you lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't think ATPG would have included them in any of his games without informing us at the start that there were some in-game.

The Joker role is banned forever. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100312-Mafia-rules&p=2382354&viewfull=1#post2382354)

I repeat, the Joker role is banned forever. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100312-Mafia-rules&p=2382357&viewfull=1#post2382357)

[johnhughthom]

The Joker role is banned forever. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100312-Mafia-rules&p=2382354&viewfull=1#post2382354)

I repeat, the Joker role is banned forever. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100312-Mafia-rules&p=2382357&viewfull=1#post2382357)

Jokers suck. Askthepizzaguy makes great games. Work it out.

[thefluffyone93]

The Joker role is banned forever. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100312-Mafia-rules&p=2382354&viewfull=1#post2382354)

I repeat, the Joker role is banned forever. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100312-Mafia-rules&p=2382357&viewfull=1#post2382357)

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/sadz.png?t=1306279015

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/sadz.png?t=1306279015

LMAO doesn't quite sum up how much I just laughed.

[thefluffyone93]

Justin Bieber made a cover of this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbNwvQXkYrY

[thefluffyone93]

What, is everyone speechless from the song I posted?
If you want, I can just have an argument with myself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

They're just overloaded from the spamgasm.

[thefluffyone93]

They're just overloaded from the spamgasm.
.............
Another sig quote.

[Earthling]

Jolt I did not "admit" I was wrong about anything about you and you're still a liar. If you're going to bother to post while dead come up with something that is actually plausible, instead of keeping on insisting on things that aren't true because you didn't read the rules or the write ups.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Round ended at 0100. I'm working on this.

EDIT: I have to be up for an early shift in 6 hours. I still have about 2 hours worth of work for this writeup, as it is a big one.

I can't be falling asleep behind the wheel, so I have to delay until I get home from work.

[Romanic]

I demand a writeup!!! :couch:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok here I go. Let's do this thing.

Stupid 10 hour shifts.

[Askthepizzaguy]

NIGHT EIGHT




See The Sunlight
We Ain't Stoppin’
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
If You Feel It
Let It Happen
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends

See The Sunlight
We Ain't Stoppin’
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
If You Feel It
Let It Happen
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends


-- Britney Spears






https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/hell.jpg








Crazed Rabbit was standing by a street lamp, itching for a fight. His brass knuckles shone in the darkness. He obviously wasn't looking to fight fair.

Nor were his assailants, who approached from both ends of the street.

By the time Crazed Rabbit noticed them, they were almost on top of him. But the man in the fedora would not go down without a fight. He saw the golden luger gleaming in the shadows, and dove behind a nearby vehicle. He was not quite fast enough, as he felt a bullet strike him in the shoulder. Certain he could pull through, he scurried around to the other side of the vehicle to avoid the hail of golden bullets.

Just then, he heard the dreadful sound of a chainsaw roaring to life. A masked figure was just behind him, about to saw him to pieces! Thinking quickly, the Crazed Rabbit tossed his fedora at the chainsaw figure's face, and jumped to the side to avoid a lethal-looking swing. He balled up his fist and punched the crazed killer in the face, and the maniac went down.

He felt the sting of another golden bullet impact him in the back, and he felt fear... this was really it. The bullet wound was bleeding quite profusely, and there was going to be no surviving this time. He went mad, and charged toward his attacker, determined to slay whoever it was. He felt the impact of more bullets in the stomach and shoulder, and he nearly fell to the ground... but out of pure rage, he continued onward, and punched his attacker in the face. The figure with the golden luger went down.

Crazed Rabbit dropped to his knees from the pain. There was no more fight left in him. When he heard the sound of the chainsaw buzzing through his neck, he gave no further resistance.





______________________________





dcmort93 was still a bit shaken up from earlier events. He seemed to be paranoid, in fact... as he wiped the blood from his busted lip, he thought he heard the sounds of breathing.... or snorting.... or something.


Then he saw the creature, as it lunged from the darkness. Its golden eyes gleamed. dcmort raised his weapon, but it was already too late. Whatever it was wasted no time tearing dcmort limb from limb, and leaving his corpse in tattered pieces in the middle of the street.






______________________________





Red_Spy could sense her attacker approaching. And she knew this was coming. The Plagas Queen prepared her deadly tentacles and began to transform.....


The masked figure held a ceremonial knife, and brazenly attacked the huge, hideous beast without fear, stabbing her in the heart.


The Plagas queen was mortally wounded, and it seemed all the fight had gone out of her. Her tentacles began to disintegrate, and her cruel, twisted face melted away to reveal....




https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/Anju.jpg



A slender, heartbroken young woman. She provided absolutely no resistance as the masked figure stabbed her in the heart once more, ending her life.







______________________________






Kagemusha suspected an attack, and raised a magical shield around himself. From the shadows, a lean, powerful figure brandishing a pair of long medieval swords attacked. The swords could not penetrate the magical shield.

The figure bared its fangs and hissed cruelly, and Kagemusha looked on the creature, and could tell that this was no ordinary figure. It was something supernatural.

The wounded figure spread its massive, black wings, and escaped back into the darkness. The stench permeated the air long afterward.








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The tall, powerful figure suspected he would be attacked again, and was prepared. He prepared to defend himself, but noticed that the magic he would summon wasn't working.

Within moments, the vulnerability of the powerful figure became apparent, and from the shadows came a figure with one wing, and a green eye. Just before the tall figure was cleaved in two by a gigantic, slender sword, it disappeared in a bright blue flash.


In his place, there stood another figure, who seemed very lost and confused.


The green-eyed assailant swung the giant slender blade, and it made contact.... with a magical shield of some kind.


Zapp Brannigan: "Aha, foul evildoer, it seems your primitive weapons are no match for standard force-field technology. It seems I've outsmarted you by activating my personal shield without even remembering to do so. As a matter of fact, I don't recall ever owning a personal shield generator. But somehow, I've won, due to my superior manly awesomeness."








https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Sephiroth.png





The green-eyed figure looked at the shielded Brannigan with pure, unfiltered rage. The figure stood back, and unleashed a powerful spell....



Brannigan and the miraculous shield around him were lifted high into the hellish sky, where the heavens themselves began to swirl around the spherical form. They were drawn in by awesome, terrifying power, until Brannigan and his shield were encased in a cloud of burning, superheated gas. In an instant, there was a massive burst of power, as the gasses ignited in a fusion reaction. The shield began to buckle, as the material in the sky collapsed in on the shield, shattering it, and causing the heavens to erupt in a massive SUPERNOVA.


The one-winged angel flew toward the prone Brannigan, and delivered a devastating combination of slashes with its gigantic blade, dicing the foolish one to tiny pieces.


The angelic figure stayed aloft in the sky, as bloody fragments of Warman rained down from the heavens.









______________________________




Summary of events:






Warman has been murdered!

Warman was Zapp Brannigan, of the Springfield Mafia Faction!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/ZappBrannigan.png

Warman was Evil!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/15.png

Jack of Hearts






Crazed Rabbit has been murdered!

Crazed Rabbit was Vincenzo Valerio, of the Cosa Nostra Faction!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Vinnie.png

Crazed Rabbit was Evil!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/33.png

6 of Clubs







dcmort93 has been murdered!

dcmort93 was Arnold Grande, of the Dark Falls Mafia Faction!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Colmillo.png

dcmort93 was Evil!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/14.png

Jack of Spades








Red_Spy has been murdered!

Red_Spy was Alyssa Martin, of the Dark Falls Mafia Faction!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/AlyssaMartin.png

Red_Spy was Evil!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/50.png

2 of Spades

Red_Spy was Anju!


https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/Anju.jpg


Red_Spy was KAFEI'S LOVER!



https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/11.png

Queen of Hearts

























Escaped- (VICTORIOUS)

Renata- Mace Windu [Good] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia IV- Star Wars: The Fallen (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?116976-Mini-Mafia-IV-%28Concluded%29)) 7 of Spades
-------------Night Six


Alive Players- (18/50)

A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS2 (Replacing Classical_Hero2)
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Earthling
Fluffyone
God Emperor
Greyblades
Link
Kagemusha
Psychonaut
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Winston Hughes (Replacing GamezRule)
Yaseikhaan (Replacing Mythmonster2)

Deceased-

Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) Ace of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three
choxorn- Satanic Choir Director James Marshall [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Spades
Zack- Klingon Assassin [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia V- Star Trek (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Spades
-------------Night Three
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four
Beskar- Detective Psycho Andy [Neutral] Psychotic Mafia (Psycho Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 5 of Diamonds
Jolt- Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded [Neutral] Space Mafia (Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Clubs
Captain Blackadder2- Claire Raval [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 5 of Spades
-------------Night Four
(No one)
-------------Day Five
B_Ray2- Squirrely the Squirrel [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 3 of Hearts
Autolycus- Android Lore [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia VII- Star Trek TNG (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120373-Mini-Mafia-VII)) 4 of Diamonds
Ironside- Kansas C. Smith [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Resident Evil: Omega (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117441-Resident-Evil-Omega-%28Concluded%29)) Queen of Diamonds
-------------Night Five
(revived)
-------------Day Six
Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy [Evil] Cosa Nostra (The Golden Rule (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?110184-The-Golden-Rule-%28Concluded%29)) King of Diamonds
Death is yonder- Darth Kojiro, Dark Lord of the Sith [Evil] Space Mafia (Star Wars- Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Diamonds
-------------Night Six
Diamondeye- White_Eyes:D/CRAZED RABBIT [CHAOTIC] Cosa Nostra(CAPO DI TUTTI CAPI III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119802-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-III-%28Concluded%29)) 10 of Spades
-------------Day Seven
Believer- Waylon Smithers [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)) Queen of Spades
landlubber- Salvatore Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Diamonds
Bow-wow-wow- Beary the Bear [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 5 of Clubs
-------------Night Seven
Chaotix- Satan/KING DODONGO [CHAOTIC] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 2 of Hearts
Chaotix- King Dodongo/KAFEI [ANJU'S LOVER] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) King of Hearts
-------------Day Eight
Warman- Zapp Brannigan [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) Jack of Hearts
Crazed Rabbit- Vincenzo Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Clubs
dcmort93- Arnold "Colmillo" Grande [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Spades
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin[Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 2 of Spades
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin/ANJU[KAFEI'S LOVER] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Queen of Hearts
-------------Night Eight






Items to be voted on:


10% retaliatory kill chance. (Mirror Shield, allows you to kill your attacker)
100% ????? (Pendant of Memories, unknown effects)
10% defender chance. (Brass knuckles, can be used to engage in a brawl)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Golden Luger, can be used to sometimes perform a kill)
10% investigatory chance. (Las Plagas Parasite, causes enhanced senses...) FACTION SCANNING ITEM






BEGIN DAY NINE.

[Askthepizzaguy]

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The Dark Falls Mafia Faction has been ELIMINATED!!!

[thefluffyone93]

So Red_Spy is dead.
Was he even active?

[Romanic]

I want to know who protected me last night (not the busdrive, but the magical shield that ended targeting Warman instead of me). Contact me privately.

[Askthepizzaguy]

PM results are out.

If you're missing information or think you have incorrect information, let me know.

[thefluffyone93]

60 of my credits got stolen?

.......................

Well then......

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/fuuu.png?t=1306379439

[Kagemusha]

Frustrated are we Chaotics? You quite didnt get poor old Kage and now you never will. vote:all items to Kagemusha.

[Jolt]

I'm gonna grin when Greyblades dies.

[Beefy187]

Golden Lugar to Beefy

Just so I can be super powerful vigilante

[a completely inoffensive name]

Ummm can I just make an observation here?

Since Kage, Romanic and BL seem to be immune to any sort of chaotic attack, is the game pretty much over? All we need is for those three to survive and just kill off everyone else. Guaranteed win.

[Beefy187]

Actually. Good idea.

Unvote, Give all items including the golden Lugar to Kage

[Earthling]

Ummm can I just make an observation here?

Since Kage, Romanic and BL seem to be immune to any sort of chaotic attack, is the game pretty much over? All we need is for those three to survive and just kill off everyone else. Guaranteed win.

I've been saying that for days, but basically yes. As long as we're careful that a townie coalition of at least two factions is around the chaotics are dead, sounds like victory. And so last night was of course great news in that only lurkers, inactives, or suspects got killed off. I have no clue who several of those vigilantes were, if they coordinated or cooperated with anyone else or acted alone, and why. (well, dcmort seems to be one and responsible for a prior kill of his own too, but don't know who killed him in turn last night, or Red_Spy) So a little worrisome but the noose seems to really be narrowing on the chaotics.

My guess is that we look at the Psychotics for a chaotic cover role, especially unknown Psychotics (we know about Yaseikhaan and Beefy). A fifth chaotic could be somewhere else with a few choices, if there are six Bizarros or Evil mafia (the three Evil mafia we know about are townies) then they are worth a solid look.

[dcmort93]

You know, I have pretty decent reason to believe that the townie coalition may have a mole.

[dcmort93]

oh and a revival would be much appreciated

[Earthling]

Is there a case you can make public on that or only info you have and can't reveal?

I unfortunately have little clue who was acting on what orders in the townie coalition anyway. Didn't know you were a vigilante and had killed someone before until you died here, and still don't know who a couple of these other vigilantes are. Certainly I doubt the group decided on a vig-hit on the wholly inactive Red_Spy unless there was known information about him as a lover but dunno.

On the other hand the chaotics seem to have entirely failed at their attacks again and we really must be close to wiping them out anyway, list of suspects gets smaller and smaller, I'm optimistic here.

[Backwards Logic]

Hey God Emperor, I hear you're Chaotic. And also the dude who revived Diamondeye, oh Mr. Demon Necromancer, or should I say Reenkis Roinkis. Don't tell me you're Yeqon Lucifuge Caacrinolaas of Murder Manor III fame. I ain't gonna believe it. Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Bet: 15 credits on God Emperor

EDIT: Forgot to add: He's our Psychotic Mafia Faction Chaotic we've been looking for too.

[Earthling]

Sounds like a really good lead then. Amazing, last night came together quite well. Bet: 10 credits on God Emperor.

Everybody else, especially those of you who know you haven't done anything Innocent, how about some faction reveals, know who has been trying to kill off whom among the vigs too. Also, continuing to look at writeups, it seems the ceremonial knife killer also attacked at least once before, Night Six, and is "masked" just like Beefy, that strikes me as quite odd and I still wonder who it is.

[Backwards Logic]

I know who it is. Not important overall. What does interest me is the one who killed Dcmort... Contact me privately please.

[thefluffyone93]

Oops.
Forgot to add in my rage post that I faction scanned Winston.
He be Psychotic as well, but I don't recall if he mentioned it before.
Just food for thought I guess.
I just wanna know who robbed me.

[Earthling]

With what, a credit scan, or did you get an item, but I don't remember that you did?

Also I forgot how blatantly God Emperor had lied to try to get me lynched but the pieces are really coming together now and he needs to go.

I'll vote all items to Kagemusha, that sounds reasonable. Though with my understanding of the defender item and if people have already slotted two night actions so they won't be using it for 10% stuff I would propose I'm a good choice to be voted it, or there's one other trustworthy protector we could give it to in private (due to using self-defense or protect other anyway, so the item would actually be used in a night action and not go to waste, I believe a few people said these defender items are not the same as passive bulletproof)

[thefluffyone93]

I used my Extra-Thick Glasses.

[Earthling]

Ok, guess you did get those a while back, I must have forgotten with pressuring Bow-wow-wow and Believer who refused to ever reveal their scan results to the ultimate detriment of the town. Could you reveal who else you've scanned in the meantime? Especially looking for sixth members of factions here.

[thefluffyone93]

Ach.
I'll tell you tomorrow.
I got a history final in the morning.
And its already 1 am.
Good night.

[Visor]

Bah. Lost all my credits to stealers. :(

[Visor]

Bet: 10 credits on God Emperor

[naut]

Bah. Lost all my credits to stealers. :(
I lost most of mine too.

Bet: 15 credits on God Emperor

[Skooma Addict]

Bet: 15 credits on God Emperor

Vote: All items to Kage

[Beefy187]

Bet:10 Credits on God Emperor

[Winston Hughes]

Bet: 10 credits on God Emperor

[Diamondeye]

:laugh4:

:curtain:

[shlin28]

Yay!

Bet: 9 Credits on GE

Great job infiltrating the Renata network though!

[God Emperor]

Don't hurt me !

How could I know that DE was scum when I revived him ?:bigcry:

[Subotan]

Lost all but ten of my credits. Bluh.

Bet: 10 credits on Fluffy

Vote: all items, except the Pendant of Memories, to Kage
Vote: Pendant of Memories to Subotan

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Bet: 40 credits on GE (P.S: told you he was acting significantly differently in this game, seems my hunch was a good call).

Vote all items: Kage

I assume the pendant of memories is just a "scan for the other lover" style item, so there really shouldn't be any hype around it, especially since Chaotix is already dead.

[Kagemusha]

Bet 10 credits on GE. Hopefully GE only had two kill attempts last night, or we have still one to catch.

[Visor]

With what, a credit scan, or did you get an item, but I don't remember that you did?

Also I forgot how blatantly God Emperor had lied to try to get me lynched but the pieces are really coming together now and he needs to go.

I'll vote all items to Kagemusha, that sounds reasonable. Though with my understanding of the defender item and if people have already slotted two night actions so they won't be using it for 10% stuff I would propose I'm a good choice to be voted it, or there's one other trustworthy protector we could give it to in private (due to using self-defense or protect other anyway, so the item would actually be used in a night action and not go to waste, I believe a few people said these defender items are not the same as passive bulletproof)

No point sending you items. No scum is gonna kill you, because you're distracting the town too much.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Well, at least I died in a cool battle :laugh:!

[Greyblades]

Bet 10 credits on GE. Hopefully GE only had two kill attempts last night, or we have still one to catch.

He didn't, I got him with a roleblock last night. He's still scum but he wasnt active.

[Romanic]

Not having much time today but,

bet 25 credits on God Emperor

Bad boy, tsk tsk tsk.

When Chaotix mentioned Reenkis Roinkis I searched the Org to see how this character was described and iirc it was a winged demon, so GE is possibly the Black Wings killer. Will need to verify, or if someone else has more time than me today, feel free to do it.

[thefluffyone93]

As promised, my scan results.

Got the Extra-Thick glasses on Night 4.
Did not perform any actions on night 5.
Used my glasses on ACIN to see how they worked on Night 6; showed up as evil.
And on night 7 I used them on Chaotix, and got back South Park Mafia Faction.
Night 8 I scanned Winston; he came up as Psychotic Mafia

[Winston Hughes]

Why did you scan me?

[thefluffyone93]

Just choosing at random for the moment.
No one gave me any suggestions.

[shlin28]

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2H - Chaotix - CHAOTIC SOUTH PARK
3H - B_ray2 SOUTH PARK
4H -
5H - fluffy BIZZARO
6H -
7H - Backwards Logic EVIL
8H - Kage SPRINGFIELD
9H - Civplayah SPRINGFIELD
10H - Earthling PYTHON
JH - Warman SPRINGFIELD
QH - Red_Spy ANJU DARK FALLS
KH - Chaotix KAFEI SOUTH PARK

AD - DiY SPACE
2D - MRD BIZZARO
3D - Diana EVIL
4D - Autolycus SPACE
5D - Beskar NEUTRAL PSYCHOTIC
6D - Landlubber COSA NOSTRA
7D - shlin28 EVIL
8D -
9D -
10D -
JD -
QD - Ironside COSA NOSTRA
KD - robbiecon COSA NOSTRA

AC - Jolt NEUTRAL SPACE
2C - Captain Blackadder BIZZARO
3C - Greyblades ???
4C -
5C - Bow-wow-wow SOUTH PARK
6C - Crazed Rabbit COSA NOSTRA
7C - YLC EVIL
8C - Seon CHAOTIC DARK FALLS
9C -
10C - Arpeg SK SPRINGFIELD
JC - ByzKnight DARK FALLS
QC - Classical PYTHON
KC - B_Ray PYTHON

AS -
2S - Red_Spy DARK FALLS
3S - TheFlax BIZZARO
4S -
5S - Captain Blackadder2 DARK FALLS
6S - Choxorn PSYCHOTIC
7S - Renata GOOD SPACE
8S - Zack SPACE
9S -
10S - Diamondeye CHAOTIC COSA NOSTRA
JS - Dcmort DARK FALLS
QS - Believer SPRINGFIELD
KS -

Based on this, I got several ideas to throw out:


Chaotics' cards may all be even numbers. Seon, DE and Chaotix covered 8, 10 and 2, so that leaves 4 and 6. We'll see when GE gets lynched if this is correct.
It may be possible that for each number, there are 3 standard evil roles and 1 special neutral/chaotic player. The only exception so far is the serial killer, but it could be possible that the SK is chosen from a list of townies, but I wouldn't place much hope in this.
All of the queens and kings of each suit has been on the same faction so far (if you count Anju and Kafei as one faction), so the King of Spades could be a Springfield mafia. Not sure how this helps us though.

I think with a few more people revealing their cards, we could definitely crack this puzzle!

[Winston Hughes]

I'm going away for a few days, during which time it's unlikely I'll be able to post at all. Apologies.

[Chaotix]

Oh. Goody.

Then hopefully the real Anju shows up. I'm calling she's definitely a lurker. Probably Red_Spy or something. In which case I am screwed.

I never believed you for a second, Visorslash.

OMG. THIS POST IS GOLD.

I didn't actually know Anju was Red_Spy. This was a total guess.

My life is complete.

[Chaotix]

All of the queens and kings of each suit has been on the same faction so far (if you count Anju and Kafei as one faction), so the King of Spades could be a Springfield mafia. Not sure how this helps us though.


Oh, btw, all of the Kings and Queens are romantic pairings.

Kafei and Anju.
Killer Rabbit and Black Beast.
ATPG and Kansas. (obviously in ATPG's dreams :clown:)

So the King of Spades is obviously Mr. Burns.

[Kagemusha]

Love is dead. All that matters is to crush the Chaotics. So the evil can reign supreme.:devil: Except the bloody good already took the cake and run with it!~:mecry:

[Askthepizzaguy]

King of DIAMONDS??? Really? Fine. I'll just spell it out for you.

Diamond. Junk.

[thefluffyone93]

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/diamond.png?t=1306429635

[Earthling]

Visorslash again I doubt people are going to be revealing their cards. But we have figured out how the Lovers with extra cards added up to the number of roles per faction and that's about all we need right now.

So we can just about solve the faction puzzle. Here's what I need to know, if anybody knows any of this. Now BL or Roman may even know all of this in private and hence the factions of all players but the unknowns I've got are:

ACIN, Psychonaut, Subotan, and Greyblades.

One of these is Bizarro, one Evil, one Space, and one Cosa Nostra.

I'm not really against making a public list of everyone and their faction, at any rate if I'm not given disapproval in private I would if I could learn who these guys are too, over half the players are known regardless and the scum probably know everything that matters about the rest too.

To be clear, not knowing these guys' factions is not an indication of scumminess, a couple I'd believe are not scum anyway for various reasons, the others already quite possible scum, if they match a suspected faction, are good leads to follow. In particular if there is a sixth Bizarro player then one of the Bizarros, not necessarily the one listed here as it could be, say, Skooma, is almost certainly a chaotic cover role. On the other hand the remaining Space Mafia player should not be chaotic, same probably goes for Cosa Nostra. In particular I'd especially like to hear if anyone knows the factions of Psychonaut or Greyblades.

Anyone who feels like revealing faction goals go right ahead too, I would place a guess that dcmort or Red_Spy might have been killed because of that and several factions we don't know their rivals still.

Of course, there's also the part where I simply don't care about some of you, if the two other rival teams of South Park want to finish off Visorslash or someone finish off Space or Cosa Nostra I couldn't really stop that from happening especially when I don't even know who some of them are.

[Subotan]

One of these is Bizarro, one Evil, one Space, and one Cosa Nostra.
Two of these are applicable to me.

[Earthling]

Yes very clever, I'd agree you are probably evil-aligned too. You're probably one of the stragglers of the Space or Cosa factions but I'd still like to find out who. Though again, Greyblades and Psychonaut are who I'd really like to know because they have been lurking or scummy already and the right faction in the mix would just add to a solid case.

[thefluffyone93]

IGNORE THIS BLATANT EDIT.

[Diamondeye]

Well, if it makes anyone feel better, I be the Five of Hearts.

It makes me feel better!
:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

[Greyblades]

I'm the three of clubs.

@ Earthling; If you are so interested in who I am persuade backwardslogic to scan me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No images from your role PM. For your eyes only.



6. Don't Quote Your Role PM

You may never quote your role PM, either publicly OR privately. I provide cover roles for my players, and they're all made in a certain style, and if my players wish to create their own backstory, it would be difficult to forge a role PM for that. Therefore, quoting from your role PM, in whole or in part, is forbidden. It shall not be done, with the following exception:

* You are allowed to discuss the data content of the role PM, such as what your faction is, what your character's name is, what items you have, and how much money you have. Because these are sets of data, they can be repeated. Do not discuss the formatting of the role PM, do not discuss when the role PM was sent, and do not post screenshots of it, or otherwise attempt to circumvent this rule in any way shape or form. If you need further instruction on this point, contact me. But the general idea is, no copy and pasting your role PM, and that includes nearly perfect paraphrasing by changing a word or two. Don't try to loophole your way out of this. Additionally, images contained within your role PM are FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. They shall not be made public unless the game host has made it public.

[shlin28]

Hmm... I think it would be a good idea for everyone to reveal their cards now, since we are bound to find a pattern in the cards soon, which could really help with finding the (hopefully) only Chaotic left.

I'll add the various new cards onto my list.

[thefluffyone93]

GAIS!!!
HAY GAIS!!
HAVE YOU HEARD?!?
HAVE YOU?!?

[Greyblades]

Green letters and a happy fluffy... oh god, they haven't made you a mod have they?

[thefluffyone93]

Green letters and a happy fluffy... oh god, they haven't made you a mod have they?

No......
but have you heard anyways?
HMMMMM?

[Greyblades]

No... has it been revealed that Michael jackson's not dead?

[thefluffyone93]

NO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXLqMB6vBic