Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Visor]

Credit victory. Though, do chaotics get credits for lynching other chaotics, and/or town?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I apologise for my ignorance on this one, but how did 100 credits mean we'd all have died?

You guys were getting near the few/couple hundred credit mark. He could have won outright by credits with a single credit steal attempt either that round or the round after.

Holding more credits than the remaining evils is one way Chaotics can win automatically- it be in the rules.

Hence, you'd has been crushed by a giant flaming rock.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Credit victory. Though, do chaotics get credits for lynching other chaotics, and/or town?

They get their credits back for lynching chaotics/neutral/SK/good, but not evils. They operate under the same rules you do. It actually hurts them to lynch townies with too many of their own credits.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Also: Romanic is Black Wings and he's going to win. So here's a nice, early congratulations message for Romanic that can be seen by the remaining alive players and/or possibly acted upon if they are so inclined as to prevent Black Wings from winning.


Also: If he tries to pin it on me instead, it's not true. He said he was going to try. So don't let him. I'd like to think that Earthling at least can vouch for my innocence and cooperation on this one.

Also: If this backfires, you're all morons for not instantly believing me. Because it makes perfect sense to believe me. He's been in cahoots with Renata all along.

So yeah, Backwards Logic,, you're our only hope:
http://scienceinseconds.com/cmsFiles/pageImages/leiahologram.jpg

[Visor]

No Python Mafia scum have died AFAIK. YOu're blackwings. (Hopefully :D)

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

No Python Mafia scum have died AFAIK. YOu're blackwings. (Hopefully :D)

Now thats good reason to believe Romanic if i ever saw one. My gosh, the logic is undeniable!

[Diamondeye]

Well this is most unexpected. :smug:

[Backwards Logic]

Lol, I had an interesting contingency plan in place should the game continue into the night.

Except it didn't involve ACIN being alive. Hmmm...

[thefluffyone93]

https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/obama.png

Also, is it too late to ask for a revive?

[Winston Hughes]

Meh, I'm disappointed. False endings have got way too common now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Meh, I'm disappointed. False endings have got way too common now.

Sort of unavoidable in this case; the dude got lynched and then survived it.

Was I supposed to not make it even a little dramatic? :beam:

[thefluffyone93]

Was I supposed to not make it even a little dramatic? :beam:

Yep.

Just say he survived the lynch.


Edit: I say, where is Chuck Norris when we need him?
A single round-house kick and Seppy is done.

[[MAFIA] Fingers]

Oh for crying out loud.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fingers;2053327563']Oh for crying out loud.

You really have trouble with the whole dual account thing, don't ya?

:laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yep.

Just say he survived the lynch.

Storytelling at its finest.

I think I'll incorporate that idea into the final writeup. Here we go...











FINAL NIGHT






You Suffer
But Why?

-- Napalm Death






Image.


Stuff.




Escaped- (VICTORIOUS)

Renata- Mace Windu [Good] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia IV- Star Wars: The Fallen (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?116976-Mini-Mafia-IV-%28Concluded%29)) 7 of Spades
-------------Night Six


Alive Players- (1)

ArpeggiateTHIS2- The Knight Who Always Triumphs While Saying Ni at you Until You Buy Him A Shrubbery And Cut Down The Largest Tree In The Forest With A(n) Herring. [NI] Python Mafia (Ecky Ecky Ecky Ecky Pitang Zoom Goodem Olwi-Zhiv (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rP-8mWWeY)) The Hierophant


Deceased-

Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) Ace of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three
choxorn- Satanic Choir Director James Marshall [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Spades
Zack- Klingon Assassin [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia V- Star Trek (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Spades
-------------Night Three
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four
Beskar- Detective Psycho Andy [Neutral] Psychotic Mafia (Psycho Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 5 of Diamonds
Jolt- Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded [Neutral] Space Mafia (Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Clubs
Captain Blackadder2- Claire Raval [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 5 of Spades
-------------Night Four
(No one)
-------------Day Five
B_Ray2- Squirrely the Squirrel [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 3 of Hearts
Autolycus- Android Lore [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia VII- Star Trek TNG (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120373-Mini-Mafia-VII)) 4 of Diamonds
Ironside- Kansas C. Smith [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Resident Evil: Omega (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117441-Resident-Evil-Omega-%28Concluded%29)) Queen of Diamonds
-------------Night Five
(revived)
-------------Day Six
Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy [Evil] Cosa Nostra (The Golden Rule (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?110184-The-Golden-Rule-%28Concluded%29)) King of Diamonds
Death is yonder- Darth Kojiro, Dark Lord of the Sith [Evil] Space Mafia (Star Wars- Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Diamonds
-------------Night Six
Diamondeye- White_Eyes:D/CRAZED RABBIT [CHAOTIC] Cosa Nostra(CAPO DI TUTTI CAPI III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119802-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-III-%28Concluded%29)) 10 of Spades
-------------Day Seven
Believer- Waylon Smithers [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)) Queen of Spades
landlubber- Salvatore Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Diamonds
Bow-wow-wow- Beary the Bear [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 5 of Clubs
-------------Night Seven
Chaotix- Satan/KING DODONGO [CHAOTIC] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 2 of Hearts
Chaotix- King Dodongo/KAFEI [ANJU'S LOVER] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) King of Hearts
-------------Day Eight
Warman- Zapp Brannigan [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) Jack of Hearts
Crazed Rabbit- Vincenzo Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Clubs
dcmort93- Arnold "Colmillo" Grande [Evil]Dark Falls Mafia(Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Spades
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin[Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 2 of Spades
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin/ANJU[KAFEI'S LOVER] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Queen of Hearts
-------------Night Eight
God Emperor- YLC/REENKIS ROINKIS [CHAOTIC] Psychotic Mafia (SWORDS AND D20s (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120054-Swords-and-D20-s-Small-Mafia-Game-%28Concluded%29)) 10 of Diamonds
-------------Day Nine
Link- Monty Burns [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)) King of Spades
Subotan- Anthony Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 9 of Clubs
Skooma Addict- Fluffy Bunny [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (Speed Mafia!?! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?122738-SPEED-MAFIA%21-%21)) 4 of Hearts
TheFluffyOne93- Advice Dog [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (Speed Mafia! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119574-SPEED-MAFIA%21)) 5 of Hearts
-------------Night Nine
Psychonaut- Manbearpig [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 9 of Spades
-------------Day Ten
Visorslash- Saddam Hussein [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=233844)) 4 of Clubs
issaikhaan- Pyramid Head [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (Silent Hill (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=377137)) Ace of Spades
-------------Night Ten
Greyblades- The Snatcher [Evil] Space Mafia (The Snatcher (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119908-The-Snatcher-%28Concluded%29))3 of Clubs
-------------Day Eleven
Winston Hughes- Satanic Pastor Richard Bird [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 9 of Diamonds
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?108584-The-Full-Monty-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Hearts
-------------Night Eleven
Earthling- The Black Knight Who Always Triumphs [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) 10 of Hearts
-------------Day Twelve
shlin28- Boomerang Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Diamonds
Beefy187- Satanic Teacher Josh Timman [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Hearts
-------------Night Twelve
Askthepizzaguy- Cloud Strife [????] SUPER AWESOME PLOT DEVICE OF IMPARTIALLY DECIDED DESTINY (Askthepizzaguy Mafia II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread)) [no card]
-------------FINAL DAY
Is some people gonna die? - Probably guilty [GUILTY] Some Mafia (Some game I hosted (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) Please slide card now
-------------FINAL NIGHT




THE END



Somebody Won.
But Who?

[TheLastDays]

(Some game I hosted (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541))

a clue? :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is more likely to be a clue than that:

PRESS THIS LINK (http://tinyurl.com/3neltdn)

[thefluffyone93]

BEST.

STORY.

EVAR.

OF ALL TIME.




/sarcasm ftw

[Earthling]

Guys, Seon is Blackwings. It's pretty much the only reasonable conclusion unless somebody has had significant evidence they were hiding the whole time. As already pointed out, ACIN clearly tried to sell out Seon for another lynch to spare himself from being lynched. He knew Seon was Blackwings and that lynching a dead person would be allowed, and was hoping that lynch would make him look Innocent till the end. And it matches Seon's character. It's not possible for anyone living to be Blackwings if Blackwings is chaotic, they would have had credit victory long ago in that case, and if Blackwings is a serial killer it wouldn't matter either way but he's not, it should be Seon.

And, Roman, if you're even doing a revive (might be full on other actions but I don't know if you have the credits, and can only use one item ability) you should revive me. In fact it seems you already mentioned the reason in the rules on your own interesting quicktopic, why you can expect better odds for reviving me, plus what I said yesterday is true. It's the same answer though, you really shouldn't risk 40% odds with just any random person and you really, really, really have to revive someone not on your faction. It probably won't matter pof course, but you should still revive me if you're going to revive anyone.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Guys, Seon is Blackwings.



No, ROMANIC is Black Wings. For clarification, Black Wings is a good-aligned character tasked with the elimination of all evil characters. Romanic told me this himself in a moment of arrogance. Please guys, Romanic isn't actually going to be reviving anybody tonight; he'll actually be killing either me or Backwards Logic and I can do nothing about it because nobody gave me any items. Don't throw a town victory away, I don't want to have to say I told you so tomorrow morning.

EDIT: Sorry for the typos, the iPad keyboard is a heap of...well, you know.

[Diamondeye]

Seon is Blackwings.

:smug:

[autolycus]

No resurrect me, I still have lots of cash.

[Earthling]

:smug:

It's really the only palatable conclusion that doesn't involve the town having been more massively screwed over again by the setup and metagame decisions. Seon being dead but still able to kill which the town was unlikely to figure out for a long time if ever, and it apparently matches his character from a previous game, is bad enough. But it's just too much if Roman is Blackwings and his faction had two full-time killers, kept getting lucky, and still are allowed all their victories even when we have game events like Renata escaping alive which logically could have denied any other faction the victory for eliminating the Space Mafia. (and it's not like they didn't have chances to stop Renata, and it's not like the regular evil townies on Renata's Space faction weren't in a bad spot by losing any good chance for their faction victory when she just left). Arpegg should clearly be town with his actions and cooperation that we know of and been discussed too. But there's again the fact that it would be ridiculous to have disallowed reviving townies and manage replacements players only to be benefit one scum and severely hurt the town.

But what it comes down to is it really doesn't matter on Blackwings. He can't be a living player and chaotic, that much is sure, they would have already had credit victory if that's the case. If it's Seon not much to be done, still have to roleblock and kill ACIN, if you assume Blackwings is neutral or SK and a living player, still have to roleblock and kill ACIN, just no other choice for townie victory.

[Romanic]

No, ROMANIC is Black Wings. For clarification, Black Wings is a good-aligned character tasked with the elimination of all evil characters. Romanic told me this himself in a moment of arrogance.
What in the nine hells? I've never told you anything like this and I'm not Black Wings. Don't know what game you are playing here. If your reasoning is that I am necessarily Black Wings because BL and yourself can't be him, then I suggest you review your position. As Earthling said, acin "sold" Seon to save himself. No way he got that Seon was Black Wings, killing from the graveyard, unless it's true and PIS, or it could even be Earthling, cause did you see Black Wings being active last night? I didn't.

Also if I was BW, why would I have revived BL instead of killing someone anyway? You didn't think this through.


Meh, I'm disappointed. False endings have got way too common now.
Amen.

[Romanic]

Earthling is right about that - If Black Wings was a living player, and chaotic, we would have lost today because we were only four alive. Two chaotic, Sephiroth and Black Wings, would have been enough to win the game. Again either Black Wings is dead (Seon), or it was Earthling.


And, Roman, if you're even doing a revive (might be full on other actions but I don't know if you have the credits, and can only use one item ability) you should revive me. In fact it seems you already mentioned the reason in the rules on your own interesting quicktopic, why you can expect better odds for reviving me, plus what I said yesterday is true. It's the same answer though, you really shouldn't risk 40% odds with just any random person and you really, really, really have to revive someone not on your faction. It probably won't matter pof course, but you should still revive me if you're going to revive anyone.

I'm sorry Earthling, but I cannot revive you with the possibility that you were BW. I do think acin was right about Seon killing from the grave, and it makes a lot of sense when you look at BW's history: We didn't hear from him on N1, and he started killing on Night 2, after Seon died. But there's still a very small chance that you were him, and I can't take it.

Anyway, this is the final night, I'm not sure if a revive is worth it.

Quoting you again for emphasis:

And, Roman, if you're even doing a revive (might be full on other actions but I don't know if you have the credits, and can only use one item ability) you should revive me. In fact it seems you already mentioned the reason in the rules on your own interesting quicktopic, why you can expect better odds for reviving me, plus what I said yesterday is true. It's the same answer though, you really shouldn't risk 40% odds with just any random person and you really, really, really have to revive someone not on your faction. It probably won't matter pof course, but you should still revive me if you're going to revive anyone.
If anyone knows what Earthling is talking about, please let me know. I still don't get it.

Also I just realized that our QT is open to everyone and the game is still running. Brilliant.

[Backwards Logic]

Just have to say...

I'm a little peeved that 1) the writeup was not very clear that the game was going to continue (in fact, hinted strongly it was over with 'Evil Team Victory' and that 2) the Quicktopic with all of the info between the Evil Faction dudes is now public. There's a lot of info in there that shouldn't have been revealed until after the game was officially over. ATPG, you did a helluva job hosting this, but I'm incredibly disappointed at this false ending and the fallout from it. Orders for 'tonight' inbound.

[shlin28]

Sorry about revealing the QT, guess I jumped the gun a bit there :sweatdrop:

Arpeg: If your accusation re: Romanic is correct, you should have quoted something... Also, I stole from you because it was a convenient way of possibly finding out your role - imagine if you were Chaotic and I stole your auto-resurrection thingy!

I'll er go and do whatever it is the dead people do, feel free to ignore me now.

:embarassed:

[Romanic]

Sorry about revealing the QT, guess I jumped the gun a bit there :sweatdrop:

Arpeg: If your accusation re: Romanic is correct, you should have quoted something... Also, I stole from you because it was a convenient way of possibly finding out your role - imagine if you were Chaotic and I stole your auto-resurrection thingy!

I'll er go and do whatever it is the dead people do, feel free to ignore me now.

:embarassed:
You have nothing to be sorry about, shlin. The game was over, giving away the QT link is a normal thing to do. Don't worry about it brother.

[Backwards Logic]

Sorry about revealing the QT, guess I jumped the gun a bit there :sweatdrop:

Arpeg: If your accusation re: Romanic is correct, you should have quoted something... Also, I stole from you because it was a convenient way of possibly finding out your role - imagine if you were Chaotic and I stole your auto-resurrection thingy!

I'll er go and do whatever it is the dead people do, feel free to ignore me now.

:embarassed:

Not mad at you at all. We all thought the same thing, as in, game over. Don't be hard on yourself.

[Diamondeye]

Not mad at you at all. We all thought the same thing, as in, game over. Don't be hard on yourself.

I noticed none of the scum revealed the Scum QT :curtain: :tongue:

Though to be honest we'd probably not do that if we had lost, just to hint that the ending might be fake :laugh4:

[a completely inoffensive name]

It's ATPG, what did you guys expect? Don't take anything for granted. He didn't even give out numbers or any sort of wrap up. Oh, it says congrats Evil Faction, I guess the game is over. Yeeaaaah.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I noticed none of the scum revealed the Scum QT :curtain: :tongue:

Though to be honest we'd probably not do that if we had lost, just to hint that the ending might be fake :laugh4:

We can't post the chaotic quicktopic publicly because of all my swearing in it.

[Diamondeye]

We can't post the chaotic quicktopic publicly because of all my swearing in it.

True. I was trying to conceal that fact :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd accept any criticism over the false information that the game was over, leading to a quicktopic reveal. At the same time, I can say from a Host-eye view of the game, the QT information has no impact on the game or anyone's chances of winning. The only info which would make any difference at this point is the chaotic team knowing what actions you're performing, and I made a point of saying don't use the QT to discuss it. You'd have to be me to know for sure that it has zero impact on the game, but you have my assurances that the game remains fair and challenging to both sides. There were other examples of things which did impact the game on a far greater scale, but *shrug* I can't do much about them except implement imperfect solutions like using replacement players, or ignoring minor rulebreaks because WOGs would punish certain teams for one person's mistake, and effectively ruin the game.

More than any other game I've hosted, this game has been an absolute nightmare in terms of trying to apply the rules fairly and consistently, and rendering judgment calls on matters ranging from the absurdly irrelevant to massively game breaking. On the list of things that could have been improved, and there's a long list, the false ending/QT reveal ranks somewhere in the middle of page 27. More egregious was the fact that I didn't put in black and white that you could have traded items in the list of rules/how to play, and I had to decide midway through the game to scrap the mechanic altogether or allow it, in spite of the imperfect situation. That's probably my biggest failing.

Number two would probably be Earthling's complaint about using the dead as replacements, and that one stings particularly because my alternative at the time was to allow pretty much entire teams to just sit inactive and ruin other people's chances of having a shot at winning, including the folks who criticized the decision. A really imperfect solution to a problem that had no solution, yet criticism of the decision is certainly fair.

Those two examples alone are why this game ranks pretty low on my list of games I've hosted that I executed well. I remember in Fall of The Order, my mistake revealed that Captain Blackadder was not a Sith, and he was still alive. That's a gigantic error. And this game has had errors, judgment calls, or ambiguity and complexity that has made things even worse for some people in terms of fairness than that particular example.

Sometimes, when you're a game host, you're being put in the position of a 'god', and your responsibility is to ensure that everyone in your little garden of eden gets a fair shot at things. But you are also given all the tools of a busy mortal with a primate brain and all the awesome power that a keyboard provides. I can't perfectly solve drop outs, inactivity, rule breaks, nor can I erase a host error completely. All I can do is when something breaks the game, is adjust the balance of power again via penalties and benefits.

So far, in this game, the only things I adjusted was the credit-stealing mechanics, which allowed folks who were stolen from to at least be able to wager a little bit every day, and made it conform to the game description; the adjustment I made was to announce the change and replace people's credits. A nearly perfect solution.

The other thing I adjusted was replacing inactive folks with dead players and eventually, replacement players that had time to play. A quite imperfect solution, but WOGs would have been worse, and doing nothing would have been even worse.

Everything else, I just had to let sit on the table like a stinking turd. There's not a lot I could have done about illegal private information reveals, without it being an overreaction, given the nature of the infractions. There's not a lot I could have done about the rule ambiguity about item transfers except make a ruling one way or the other, do they happen or not, even though the rules don't say if they're allowed. There's not a lot I can do about moves which look almost completely game breaking "Hey guys, lynch so and so, I can't say why because I'm dead, just totally trust me on this" but are technically legal because I stupidly allowed it.

If I were actually a god, and this was my universe, I would be ashamed at how badly I/We have messed this game up.

And yet, my conscience is clean, because at the end of the day, this is just a game where you don't win anything and the points don't matter and the objective is to have fun, and my decisions have all been made for the purpose of making sure everyone is capable of having fun and the game is at least remotely fair. I also gave it my darndest effort in making sure every decision I made was for the best.

You can certainly critique my hosting this time. I gave it my best, and hopefully most of you had fun. If that's the case, and the game was winnable for all, then I have done my job well enough that I can sit here with turds on the table and still be able to look you guys in the face and say the table is not slanted.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I, for one, critique your use of retaliatory items and your use of random.org instead of just letting me win. Definite bad move there.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I, for one, critique your use of retaliatory items and your use of random.org instead of just letting me win. Definite bad move there.

I particularly dislike chance-based games. I'm not a fan of the percentage chance of whatnot that the items and skills and purchases provided.

I put a mechanic in place which prevented folks from being completely shafted by the dice, which I'll explain in detail after the game, but that doesn't prevent folks from being otherwise beaten by other people's good luck. But, if a game like Civilization IV can be fun, engaging, and popular with such completely asinine things as random events and goody huts, then this sort of game can still be fun when employing dice. And, pretty much Resident Evil: Dark Falls, one of my largest and most popular games, was almost entirely dice-based.

[Beefy187]

I'm gonna to dance around naked and screaming

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm gonna to dance around naked and screaming

Can we watch?

[Renata]

No. Get to work figuring out Music Mafia.

[Csargo]

Can we watch?

That's for my eyes only.

[thefluffyone93]

And yet, my conscience is clean, because at the end of the day, this is just a game where you don't win anything and the points don't matter and the objective is to have fun, and my decisions have all been made for the purpose of making sure everyone is capable of having fun and the game is at least remotely fair


and the objective is to have fun


have fun


fun


hmmmmm.......
I don't get it.......

[Choxorn]

I remember in Fall of The Order, my mistake revealed that Captain Blackadder was not a Sith, and he was still alive.

When? Or were you referring to when you accidentally said that robbiecon was dead when he wasn't, or something completely different?

[Captain Blackadder]

When? Or were you referring to when you accidentally said that robbiecon was dead when he wasn't, or something completely different?

It was when I "died" but in actual fact I did not because atpg missed out on some ability that I had. So as a result I was confirmed to be innocent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Actually it was because I was accepting orders from the quicktopic, and they had decided to kill Blackadder, and then I calculated the results.... but I didn't check the quicktopic again after I got their order, and I didn't see they changed their minds and attacked someone else.

That's why I made it a rule from that point onward, I wasn't going to accept orders from a quicktopic. I need a private message or it doesn't count. It wasn't their fault, it was mine, but I needed a solution that would prevent such errors in the future, and I always check all PMs right before I do the results.

[Diamondeye]

Hey Pizza, don't be hard on yourself. Hosting is hard, and this game is insanely complicated and immensely detailed. I think you're doing a fabulous piece of work.

Now please let my team win :evil:

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Hey Pizza, don't be hard on yourself. Hosting is hard, and this game is insanely complicated and immensely detailed. I think you're doing a fabulous piece of work.

Now please let my team lose :evil:

Seconded.

[Diamondeye]

Seconded.

I see what you did there :stare:

[autolycus]

Alright, askthepizzaguy, I'm ready for the shocking denouement now.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

The suspense is killing me :hide:

[Diamondeye]

The suspense is killing me :hide:

No no, that's ACIN's job :evil:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know y'all been patiently waiting. I have a quick work shift, and then I shall post the ending. Thanks everyone for playing, congratulations to the winners, well played to those who fell only slightly, slightly short of their goals.

I consider this endgame pretty much a stalemate, but it gets decided one way or the other by random.org. That means you all played well enough to be the champions, but there's not enough room in hell for two kings.

[Renata]

Ahem.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ahem.

You aren't even in hell. You're off being a mother-lovin' jedi grandmaster surrounded by mother-lovin' female jedi who all want to see your purple lightsaber in action.

[Renata]

I continue to deplore the lack of a Jedi smily around these parts.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, my quick shift turned into a closing shift because someone got sick and I had to close for them.

I've also got a nice headache. I will work on this, but no promises it gets done before I get sleep.

[Visor]

As long as it gets done, take as long as you need.

[Bow-wow-wow]

I can't wait!!! :inquisitive:

[Diamondeye]

As long as the Chaotics win, take as long as you need.

Seconded.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Doing Finale now. Thread locked until then, to prevent spoilers.

[Askthepizzaguy]

FINALE









Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
Go to a lake of fire and fry
See them again 'till the Fourth of July

I knew a lady who came from Duluth
Bitten by a dog with a rabid tooth
She went to her grave just a little too soon
flew away howling on the yellow moon

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
Go to a lake of fire and fry
See them again 'till the Fourth of July

People cry and people moan
Look for a dry place to call their home
Try to find some place to rest their bones
Of an angels and the devils try to make 'em their own

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
Go to a lake of fire and fry
See them again 'till the Fourth of July

-- Nirvana




















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The trio stood at the controls of the Super Vague Weapon of Ambiguously Decided Doom.


Lord of Annihilation: "So, how do we use this thing to get out of here? As I recall, that Jedi escaped...."


Fire Brother: "Yes, we could use this machine to get out of here. But we'd better do it quickly, I don't think Sephiroth is gone...."


The Knight Who Says Ni: "You two work on the machine. I'll deal with Sephiroth."


Fire Brother: "Don't even think about going out there alone! You'll need help to bring him down. Lord, keep working on it."


Lord of Annihilation: "I can do this."






_____________________






Seon, the Demon Vampire, also known as Screwtape, stalked ArpeggiateTHIS2, also known as The Knight Who Says Ni.




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SCREWTAPE: "You thought you had gotten rid of me.... but I've been here all this time, picking you off one-by-one. Your flesh feeds me, your blood sustains me. Now I will sacrifice you to the Great God Sephiroth."


The Knight Who Says NI: "Do not come any closer, or I will say Ni at you!"


SCREWTAPE: "Do your worst, mortal!"





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The Knight Who Says NI: "NI!"


SCREWTAPE: "Nothing."


The Knight Who Says NI: "NI!"


SCREWTAPE: "Ouch. Okay, that stings a bit."


The Knight Who Says NI: "NI!"


SCREWTAPE: "All right, that's enough. Shut your festering gob, or I'll carve open your skull!"


The Knight Who Says NI: "NI! NI NI!!! NI NI NI!!!"


SCREWTAPE: "That hurts! Oh, that hurts! Oh, the pain, the horrible, agonizing pain!"


The Knight Who Says NI: "PENG!!! NEE-WOM!"


SCREWTAPE: "That hurts slightly less, but is really quite painful still!"


The Knight Who Says NI: "Ecky Ecky Ecky Ecky zoom boing goodem olwi-zhiv!"


SCREWTAPE: "Stop it! Please stop it!"


The Knight Who Says NI: "Ow! Don't say that word!"


SCREWTAPE: "What, 'is'?"


The Knight Who Says NI: "No, not 'is'. You couldn't go very far in life without saying 'is'."


SCREWTAPE: "Well, if you tell me what it is, I won't say it again."


The Knight Who Says NI: "Ooooh! You said it, you said the word!"


SCREWTAPE: "What, 'it'???"


The Knight Who Says NI: "There, you just said it again! Oh no.... now I've said it! That's three its! OOOHH!"


SCREWTAPE: "You're a loony. Time to die."



Without further ado, Screwtape attacked the Knight Who Says Ni. However, at the last second, the Knight Who Says Ni tried to say some other sacred words, in an attempt to summon a protective shield!

However, he had trouble remembering the exact pronunciation.



The Knight Who Says NI: "N.... N..... newww..... new...... nih..... nih...."



And it was too late. Screwtape had already hacked off his gigantic legs using nothing more than a common herring. The towering figure fell deep into a carefully arranged nearby shrubbery. It was there that the Demon Vampire jumped atop the towering figure's back and began bashing the helpless giant with his spiked mace.

As the Knight lay screaming, Screwtape bared his fangs, and lowered them onto the tall one's tasty, tasty neck.....



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________________________





Lord of Annihilation: "I've nearly got it. The password seems to be based on those cards Sephiroth was using. He was the Jack of Diamonds.... now I just need to switch the mode from "DESTROY" to "GATEWAY".


Suddenly, a long metallic object embedded itself in the control panel, causing the panel to explode in a shower of sparks.


The Lord of Annihilation looked at the machine when the smoke cleared, and recognized the Masamune. The Super Vague Weapon had been destroyed.






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The entire building shuddered from the violent explosions outside, and the entire structure lifted up off of the ground and was sent hurtling at incredible speeds into the distance. The Lord of Annihilation turned and saw the source of the explosions, and moved out of the way as fast as his tall, powerful frame would allow.



Safer Sephiroth: "You cannot escape. I will exterminate you all....."




The Lord of Annihilation ran from Sephiroth, who continued pummeling the city with dark orbs and massive Flares.




________________________



Romanic, also known as the Lord of Annihilation, hurried to the body of the fallen shlin28, and prepared to speak the arcane words which would bring his friend back to life.



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Safer Sephiroth: "Mercy is for the weak. The weak shall be forgotten....."





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A massive Flare engulfed the body of shlin28 and the would-be reviver, Romanic.


Lord of Annihilation: "It's not over, Sephiroth.... HE is coming to destroy you..... And you no longer possess THE CARDS."


It was true. During the battle with Cloud, Sephiroth had been beaten, and the cards were knocked clear of his body by the METEOR.


Safer Sephiroth: "I never needed them.... I have always been far more powerful than these mortals."




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________________________




Backwards Logic, also known as the Fire Brother, approached Sephiroth, armed with a killer rabbit, a protective suit, a shield, and a chainsaw. He was a walking tank... and he also had in his possession the TRIFORCE.




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Fire Brother: "This is it. This is the end of the road for you. I'm going to turn you into a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken!"



And the final battle began....



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Safer Sephiroth: "Kneel before me. Beg for forgiveness. I want to watch you grovel. I want to see you suffer before you die."




Fire Brother: "It's not happening, Sephiroth! Prepare to taste the ultimate attack....."



Safer Sephiroth: "If you can destroy me, then do so. I will consume everything.... I will consume all life.... I will consume death itself.... I will remake this universe.... Nothing can stop me now."




Fire Brother: "TRIFORCE, I command you, destroy the 7-winged freak, once and for all!"





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After the massive explosion, the dust began to clear, and the Fire Brother looked to see if Sephiroth was annihilated.




But Sephiroth was still there..... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5st0b3ln5U&feature=player_detailpage#t=57s)




Safer Sephiroth: "The TRIFORCE contains the power of the three Goddesses.... But their reach extends only so far. This is not their world. This is not their realm.... this is not their creation.

This is my world. I made The Purgatory. I made all of you. I AM YOUR GOD. You all bow before me.... You all die before me."



Fire Brother: "This can't be happening.... I don't believe it...."



Safer Sephiroth: "I do not need your belief. I do not need your obedience. I do not need your surrender. I have become the GOD OF EVERYTHING.



Fire Brother: "I would never serve you, Sephiroth...."



Safer Sephiroth: "And so the Old Life will be purged, to make way for those who will serve...."



Fire Brother: "I made a mistake.... I made the wrong wish. With my final breath, I'll make a different one. TRIFORCE.... I wish for a HERO to rise from the ashes of the fallen.... someone capable of defeating Sephiroth, and reversing the damage he's done. I wish for there to be.... a HERO OF TIME."



Safer Sephiroth: "Perhaps you've forgotten, mortal one.... I AM THE HERO! Now feel the judgment of YOUR ALMIGHTY GOD!




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In an instant, the body of the Fire Brother was blown to smithereens.....



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Summary of events:





ArpeggiateTHIS2 has been murdered!

ArpeggiateTHIS2 was The Knight Who Says Ni, of the Python Mafia Faction!

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ArpeggiateTHIS2 was Evil!

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8 of Diamonds







Romanic has been murdered!

Romanic was the Lord of Annihilation, of the Evil Mafia Faction!

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Romanic was Evil!

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4 of Spades








Backwards Logic has been killed in retaliation!

Backwards Logic was the Fire Brother, of the Evil Mafia Faction!

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Backwards Logic was Evil!

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7 of Hearts












Escaped- (VICTORIOUS)

Renata- Mace Windu [Good] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia IV- Star Wars: The Fallen (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?116976-Mini-Mafia-IV-%28Concluded%29)) 7 of Spades
-------------Night Six


Survived- (VICTORIOUS)

A completely inoffensive name-
God of Destruction/SAFER SEPHIROTH [CHAOTIC] Evil Mafia (COUNCIL OF VILLAINS (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?115505-The-Council-of-Villains-Large-Mafia-Game-%28Concluded%29)) Jack of Diamonds


Deceased-

Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) Ace of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three
choxorn- Satanic Choir Director James Marshall [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Spades
Zack- Klingon Assassin [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia V- Star Trek (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Spades
-------------Night Three
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four
Beskar- Detective Psycho Andy [Neutral] Psychotic Mafia (Psycho Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 5 of Diamonds
Jolt- Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded [Neutral] Space Mafia (Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Clubs
Captain Blackadder2- Claire Raval [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 5 of Spades
-------------Night Four
(No one)
-------------Day Five
B_Ray2- Squirrely the Squirrel [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 3 of Hearts
Autolycus- Android Lore [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia VII- Star Trek TNG (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120373-Mini-Mafia-VII)) 4 of Diamonds
Ironside- Kansas C. Smith [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Resident Evil: Omega (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117441-Resident-Evil-Omega-%28Concluded%29)) Queen of Diamonds
-------------Night Five
(revived)
-------------Day Six
Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy [Evil] Cosa Nostra (The Golden Rule (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?110184-The-Golden-Rule-%28Concluded%29)) King of Diamonds
Death is yonder- Darth Kojiro, Dark Lord of the Sith [Evil] Space Mafia (Star Wars- Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Diamonds
-------------Night Six
Diamondeye- White_Eyes:D/CRAZED RABBIT [CHAOTIC] Cosa Nostra(CAPO DI TUTTI CAPI III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119802-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-III-%28Concluded%29)) 10 of Spades
-------------Day Seven
Believer- Waylon Smithers [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)) Queen of Spades
landlubber- Salvatore Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Diamonds
Bow-wow-wow- Beary the Bear [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 5 of Clubs
-------------Night Seven
Chaotix- Satan/KING DODONGO [CHAOTIC] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 2 of Hearts
Chaotix- King Dodongo/KAFEI [ANJU'S LOVER] South Park Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) King of Hearts
-------------Day Eight
Warman- Zapp Brannigan [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) Jack of Hearts
Crazed Rabbit- Vincenzo Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 6 of Clubs
dcmort93- Arnold "Colmillo" Grande [Evil]Dark Falls Mafia(Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Spades
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin[Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 2 of Spades
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin/ANJU[KAFEI'S LOVER] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Queen of Hearts
-------------Night Eight
God Emperor- YLC/REENKIS ROINKIS [CHAOTIC] Psychotic Mafia (SWORDS AND D20s (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120054-Swords-and-D20-s-Small-Mafia-Game-%28Concluded%29)) 10 of Diamonds
-------------Day Nine
Link- Monty Burns [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)) King of Spades
Subotan- Anthony Valerio [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Askthepizzaguy Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)) 9 of Clubs
Skooma Addict- Fluffy Bunny [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (Speed Mafia!?! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?122738-SPEED-MAFIA%21-%21)) 4 of Hearts
TheFluffyOne93- Advice Dog [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (Speed Mafia! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119574-SPEED-MAFIA%21)) 5 of Hearts
-------------Night Nine
Psychonaut- Manbearpig [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 9 of Spades
-------------Day Ten
Visorslash- Saddam Hussein [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=233844)) 4 of Clubs
issaikhaan- Pyramid Head [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (Silent Hill (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=377137)) Ace of Spades
-------------Night Ten
Greyblades- The Snatcher [Evil] Space Mafia (The Snatcher (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119908-The-Snatcher-%28Concluded%29))3 of Clubs
-------------Day Eleven
Winston Hughes- Satanic Pastor Richard Bird [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 9 of Diamonds
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?108584-The-Full-Monty-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Hearts
-------------Night Eleven
Earthling- The Black Knight Who Always Triumphs [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) 10 of Hearts
-------------Day Twelve
shlin28- Boomerang Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Diamonds
Beefy187- Satanic Teacher Josh Timman [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Hearts
-------------Night Twelve
Askthepizzaguy- Cloud Strife [????] SUPER AWESOME PLOT DEVICE OF IMPARTIALLY DECIDED DESTINY (Askthepizzaguy Mafia II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread)) [no card]
-------------FINAL DAY
ArpeggiateTHIS2- The Knight Who Says Ni [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) 8 of Diamonds
Backwards Logic- Fire Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Hearts
Romanic- Lord of Annihilation [Evil] Evil Mafia (Murder Manor II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114095-Mini-Game-II-%28Concluded%29)) 4 of Spades
-------------FINAL NIGHT






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The Python Mafia has been eliminated!

The EVIL TEAM has been eliminated!

The GOOD TEAM has prevailed!

The CHAOTIC TEAM has prevailed!






What happened on the final round:

The dice were not kind at all to the evil team. None of their actions succeeded except the one that really, really shouldn't have succeeded, which was the vig attempt on ACIN, which it so happens resulted in another retaliation.

And then, ACIN's murder attempt is 100% and so is Seon's, and the guy with 100% defenses was killed via retaliation.(30%)

You lost nobody and killed all three.

I took a screenshot of the random.org screen, though I'm not sure why. I suppose to show that either the result is legit or I re-rolled it until it got an absurdly perfect ending, which the odds are kind of against seeing as you'd need 8 numbers in a sequence randomly generated to mess with the result.


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92- ACIN's murder attempt at 100% plus override.
61- ACIN's vig attempt (FAIL, needed 10 or below)
55- Arpeg's self-protect attempt (FAIL, needed 50 or below)
99- Backwards Logic's vig attempt (Success, purchase plus items over 100% success rating)
63- Romanic's bus drive attempt, Seon with Backwards Logic [wouldn't have made a difference anyway due to your choices of murder] (FAIL, needed 40 or below)
45- Romanic's revive attempt on Shlin (FAIL, needed 40 or below)
70- Seon's murder attempt on Arpeg (100% before modifiers, no override)

Defenses and Retaliations:

16- ACIN is attacked, survives due to IMMUNE, retaliation at 30% (Success, needed 30 or below)



Anyway.... I am kind of disappointed. I wanted to see the evil team get rewarded for some of their more brilliant moves (such as those bus drive attempts on Seon). The random gods are out of my hands.


Congrats, ACIN/Chaotic team.





This is the real, final ending. Congratulations, winners, and well played, all.



Final scores and endgame commentary to come. I will also be posting everyone's role PMs and revealing all the hidden talents and information about the game, including the meaning of the cards and the songs, as well as offering my thoughts on what strategies would have been especially useful, and so forth.


Thank you everyone for playing. I truly hope you had fun.


If you want a link to the Chaotic quicktopic, send me a PM. It contains far, far too much naughty language to post here. (ACIN, obviously....)

[Visor]

Damn. Oh well. Well played to Romanic, Shlin, Backwards Logic and Renata and Arpeg ,the four finalists and our winner.

Well done ACIN and the scum team.

I'd like that link ATPG.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah. Total victory. GG to everyone.

EDIT: Grand Champion is such a sweet victory.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Special thanks to Chaotix, Diamondeye, God Emperor and especially Seon for being the best team I could have imagined.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Also, just so everyone knows...don't take anything I say in the chaotic quicktopic personally. I got very involved in this game mentally and I may have let my anger vent out in a way that was probably not entirely respectful....so yeah. Sorry about that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm going to begin showing role PMs. I'm sure folks are interested to see the Chaotic, Good, Neutral, and Serial Killer roles.


Standby while I dump them in the thread. I'll lock it temporarily while I dump them, so all the posts will be nice and consecutive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Psycho Andy- (NEUTRAL TRUE SCANNER)

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Psycho Andy





Team: Neutral
Team Victory: Survive. (Incomplete)
Faction: Psychotic Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Evil Mafia and the Cosa Nostra. (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Vote for yourself at least once during every voting phase. [Cover goal, not necessary to complete] (Incomplete)
True Goal: Locate an anti-mafioso using your special power, and get them to perform two kills of your choosing, and make sure you are never slain by the anti-mafia. (Incomplete)


Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:

Andy's Investigation. Once per night, you can choose someone and determine their true alignment.... be they mafia, anti-mafia, neutral, or whatever the case may be. But remember, your goal is survival. If you find an anti-mafioso and expose them, you could open yourself up for defeat. Be very careful who you choose to reveal your power to.... if the mafia catch wind of what you're up to, they will want to force you to work for them, and therefore, set you up for failure.



Take the Red Pill. If you take this medication, there's no going back.... Andy will be gone, and Psycho Andy will return. Your alignment will shift to Evil, and you will be unaligned no more. You will be able to win and lose with all the other Mafiosi. You cannot use this option after you locate an anti-mafioso.

Learned Abilities: None

Items:


Andy's Lucky Badge- 10% Bulletproof chance. This is the badge Andy wore as a detective. He was shot in the chest once, and this badge deflected the bullet and saved his life. (Bulletproof Item)



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Background Information:


You're a member of the Psychotic Mafia faction. Ever since your death and damnation into Hell, you've gone even more insane than you were before. But you're not alone... here in this insane place, there are others like you... crazy, demonic beings who are utterly deranged, dangerously psychotic. You've joined forces to wipe out the last remnants of sanity all around you, but there are two factions in particular who have your interest.

Your main rivals are the Evil Mafia and the Cosa Nostra, for a few very simple reasons: You're the most evil, baddest, most satanic mafia of them all, and no "Evil" mafia is going to outdo you in terms of utter evilness. And the Cosa Nostra are a joke, they think they're a mafia family? Hardly. At the same time, they do have guns and they're cutting in on your business of mayhem and destruction, so they gotta go. You don't like the competition, so it's time to put them all out of business. Those two factions are the largest direct threat to your return from Hell. Even if your faction does not survive, outlasting your rivals would make up for your previous failures, and allow you to go out with a bang. If you fail, your faction is utterly defeated and you earn no faction victory points.

But, there is a threat bigger than your rivals, one so great you might wish to set aside your differences for. There are utter madmen hiding amongst the villains, ones even more loony and disloyal than you... it's a shame you can't join forces with them, because they do what you do best, only more of it. If you can't join them, beat them. These loonies are simply bad news.... and they must be stopped, whatever the cost. There won't be any families left if those creatures get their way. That is the one thing all evil factions agree on... the anti-mafia must be destroyed.

Detective Andy/Psycho Andy was both an innocent patient AND the main villain of the first Psycho Mafia game. Unbeknownst to him, anyone that Andy investigated would wind up dead when his secondary personality took over his body at night, due to the side effects of the medication he was taking. As a result of this fact, and the fact that Detective Andy solved the case and figured out that he was guilty, he has been somewhat redeemed.... he's not quite evil, he's merely insane.

Because of this, Andy is in the unique position of not having any specific alignment. He could win with the Evil forces, or the Chaotic forces, or anyone else for that matter. His main goal is simply survival... he's a neutral party. However, because of the difficulty in survival, I will grant you a choice.... if you take the red pill, you will lose your sanity completely and turn evil, becoming a normal, ordinary member of the mafia you're a part of. Should this happen, you will fail if any faction besides the mafia team prevails.

However, you also have a mission.... you're a detective, Andy. And you feel that your skills should not go to waste, even here, even if you are neutral. You want to find the Anti-mafia.... and blackmail them into doing your bidding. You are a true detective, Andy. Don't let your talents go to waste.

There is one more thing: You are allowed to "take the red pill" anytime before you locate an anti-mafioso. Once you find one, you no longer have that choice.


Featured Games: Psycho Mafia I
(https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
Andy managed to defeat his psychotic half, killing himself in the process. What are you, Andy.... are you evil, or are you redeemable?

Theme Music: Coming Undone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pANa4UDccQ)


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Jerry Seinfeld (NEUTRAL ROLEBLOCKER)


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Jerry Seinfeld





Team: Neutral
[U]Team Victory: Survive. (Incomplete)
Faction: Bizarro Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Space Mafia and the Python Mafia. (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Wear the Puffy Shirt for the rest of your life. (Never give away or have the puffy shirt stolen from you) (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:



Master of your domain- You can trick someone into entering a contest wherein they try to outlast each other, in a certain way. But the best part is, they'll be too distracted doing that to bother with anything else that evening! (Roleblock ability)


Learned Abilities: None

Items:


The Puffy Shirt- 10% bulletproof chance. Allows you to make someone laugh at you instead of attacking you. It makes you look like a pirate, even if you don't want to be a pirate! (Bulletproof item)



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Background Information:


You're a member of the Bizarro Mafia faction. These evil villains are not "mafia" in the classical sense, but you all have one thing in common.... your characters were all attempts at humor, found in gag games and games with bizarre premises, hence the name "Bizarro" mafia. With your deaths, your attempts at evil (and bad humor) have been repaid with hellfire and eternal agony. Now, you've all been offered a chance to escape, and you've banded together with like-minded outcasts and wierdos to take on whatever dangers might thwart your plans. Standing in your way are your rivals in wierdness, the Space Mafia and the Python Mafia. If you can outlast them, you will have proven you are the most bizarre team of them all!

But, there is a bigger threat than your rivals, one so threatening you might wish to set aside your differences with the Space Mafia and the Python Mafia.... there are weirdos from another dimension hiding amongst your fellow villains. These creatures are too weird even for you bizarros, and they must be destroyed quickly. There won't be any laughter to be had if those goons get their way. That is the one thing all evil factions agree on... the anti-mafia must be destroyed.

Jerry Seinfeld is the most annoying, un-funny comedian of all time, in this humble host's opinion. He was sent to hell for telling jokes involving bad observational humor. Also, he was part of a contest to see which annoying character was the most annoying of all time, and he helped eliminate much of the competition. Clearly he's the most annoying.

But, he's been offered a chance to escape from hell and attempt to tell bad jokes once more, to torment the game host. This chance for a second life is a gift from heaven, surely.... so you had better take it and keep it, or forever be branded a re-gifter.

Featured Games: Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)
(https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
Jerry Seinfeld managed to annoy the game host so much due to his inactivity, that the game host wogged him, and he was the final mafioso. It's the only time a game has been won by WOG that I've been a part of.

Surely, you can do better this time. Please?


Theme Music: Limp Bizkit- My Way (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwh0bosIJrw)


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Bane Anded (NEUTRAL VIGILANTE)


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Bane Anded





Team: Neutral
[U]Team Victory: Survive. (Incomplete)
Faction: Space Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Evil Mafia and the Psychotic Mafia. (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Successfully learn how to perform two other abilities besides your natural vigilantism. (Learn to use the dark and light sides of the Force) (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:

Force Lightning- Every other night, you can tap into the Dark Side of the Force, and try to vigilante kill someone in the name of justice. But is it really justice you seek, or is it power for yourself? [Every other night vigilante kill]

Learned Abilities: None

Items:


Jedi Holocron- 10% investigatory chance. Can be used to learn more about someone. (FACTION SCANNING ITEM)
Security Forcefield Generator- 10% bulletproof chance. Can be used to generate a protective field around yourself. (Bulletproof item)



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Background Information:


You're a member of the Space Mafia faction. These are various scumbags and dangerous beings from the world of science fiction, come to life. Although you've all been destroyed somehow, and you find yourself in another, hellish dimension, you've retained memories and powers from your previous lives, and are determined to get back to your correct universe. Standing in your way are your rivals, the Evil Mafia and the Psychotic Mafia. Although you were considered quite badass in your respective dimensions, these particular scumbags are extremely dangerous and a threat to your existence. If you can outlast them, then you will have prevented those dangers from infecting your dimension. If you fail, your faction is utterly defeated and you earn no faction victory points.

But, there is a threat bigger than your rivals, one so great you might wish to set aside your differences for. There are alien visitors hiding amongst the villains, ones that are quite dissimilar from all other beings here. What sorts of aliens they are, you do not know; but they don't belong here. If the other scumbags here are from different universes, then these visitor beings are from a different reality altogether, and they must be stopped, whatever the cost. There won't be any families left if those creatures get their way. That is the one thing all evil factions agree on... the anti-mafia must be destroyed.

Bane Anded was the most powerful Jedi that ever existed. He gained such a mastery of the Dark Side and Light Side that the entire Jedi Order and even the Sith were not enough to bring him down. However, he finds himself disconnected from his former life, and is somehow trapped between dimensions.

Anded must find a way to escape the netherworld of the Force... or whatever this place is. He might find some unlikely allies among the Jedi, or the Sith, or even some other spacefaring creatures. He'll destroy them later, obviously, but for now, they could be useful puppets.

Bane, you're not evil, and you're not good either. You're only concerned with power for yourself.... try to survive this debacle. That is how you will win; with the evil, with the good, or with the crazy. It doesn't matter, just win it, Bane.

Featured Games: Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)
(https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
The Light Side of the Force will be with you.... always.
-Nomi Sunrider
Theme Music: Preliator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q6skxRLnsI)


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Mace Windu - "The only townie"


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Mace Windu





Team: Town [Good]

Team Victory: MISSION: Successfully steal an item from every faction in the game besides your own, and one item which serves to incriminate the anti-mafia as well, then escape from this hell with the necessary evidence to lynch all mafia families, winning the game for the TOWN FACTION! (Incomplete)

Faction: Space Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Evil Mafia and the Psychotic Mafia. (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Successfully steal at least 7 items. (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities: None
Learned Abilities: None

Items:


Purple Lightsaber- 10% defender power. Can be used to defend someone. (Defender Item)
Blaster- 80% chance of theft. Can be used to stun someone and steal one of their items. (THIEF ITEM)



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Background Information:


You're a member of the Space Mafia faction. These are various scumbags and dangerous beings from the world of science fiction, come to life. Although you've all been destroyed somehow, and you find yourself in another, hellish dimension, you've retained memories and powers from your previous lives, and are determined to get back to your correct universe. Standing in your way are your rivals, the Evil Mafia and the Psychotic Mafia. Although you were considered quite badass in your respective dimensions, these particular scumbags are extremely dangerous and a threat to your existence. If you can outlast them, then you will have prevented those dangers from infecting your dimension. If you fail, your faction is utterly defeated and you earn no faction victory points.

But, there is a threat bigger than your rivals, one so great you might wish to set aside your differences for. There are alien visitors hiding amongst the villains, ones that are quite dissimilar from all other beings here. What sorts of aliens they are, you do not know; but they don't belong here. If the other scumbags here are from different universes, then these visitor beings are from a different reality altogether, and they must be stopped, whatever the cost. There won't be any families left if those creatures get their way. That is the one thing all evil factions agree on... the anti-mafia must be destroyed.

Mace Windu was once Grandmaster of the Jedi Order, among the most powerful Jedi of all time. When he rejoined the Force, he was able to retain part of himself, and there, he was forced to fight against Sith in a strange alternate reality. Oddly enough, in that particular reality, the Jedi were the antagonists (mafia) and the Sith were the targets. Indeed, in this nightmarish place, Mace Windu might find common cause with some of the galaxy's scummiest and most villainous; they all want to return to their proper worlds, after all. These other beings familiar with the Force, or at least advanced technology, will be easier for Master Windu to relate to as he tries to escape this hell and return from the netherworld.

Featured Games: Mini Mafia IV- (Star Wars: The Fallen)
(https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
Mace Windu is back. Time to teach some mother-lovin' scumbags the meaning of mother-lovin' pain.

Theme Music: Justice (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANuVyfJNKPI)


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Ganondorf- The Anti-Lover Serial Killer


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GANONDORF




Team: SERIAL KILLER [Ganon]

Team Victory: Personally kill both Lovers. Alternatively, kill one member of each mafia faction, or outlive that faction, for all factions. (Incomplete)

Faction: Springfield Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the South Park Mafia and the Python Mafia (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: See Team Victory condition.



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities: None
Learned Abilities: None

Items:


Rope- 10% bus driver chance. Can be used to tie up someone and replace them with someone else. (Bus driver item)
Gag- 50% silencer chance. Can be used to silence someone for an entire day and night phase (Silencer item)
Tactical Nuke- 20% Override. Can be used to break through protection... if it successfully detonates, that is.... (Override item)



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Background Information:


You're a member of the Springfield Mafia faction. This group is made up of mafia and serial killers from the Simpsons and Futurama games, with shared interests. You all wish to see your faction as the last one standing. Even if you die, as long as someone else from your faction survives the ordeal, the Springfield Mafia will prevail. However, you have a particular rivalry with the South Park Mafia and the Python Mafia. The Springfield Mafia is funny.... even considered "ha-ha" funny. But South Park and Monty Python are trying to take over the humor game. That's YOUR business. So now it is your business to teach those punks a lesson they ain't never gonna forgets. Even if your faction does not survive, you must ensure that the South Park Mafia and the Python Mafia are destroyed before your faction is eliminated, proving once and for all that youse guys are the masters of comedy. If you fail, you faction is utterly defeated and you earn no faction victory points.

But, there is a threat bigger than the South Park Mafia and the Python Mafia, one so great you might wish to set aside your differences for. There are freaks hiding amongst the mafia scums, ones without any sense of honor or loyalty to any family, and they do not belong here at all. These goons ain't no heroes, and they ain't no townies. They are simply bad news.... and they must be stopped, whatever the cost. There won't be any families left if those goons get their way. That is the one thing all youse scumbags agree on... [U]the anti-mafia must be destroyed.

Ganondorf has come from another dimension seeking vengeance against the one who ruined his evil plans to conquer Hyrule. He was banished to the Sacred Realm, and sealed by the Sages. But somehow, he managed to find a way into the Hell dimension. He will kill everyone standing in his way, in his mad, insatiable quest to destroy the TWO who opposed him.
Failing that, Ganondorf can choose to go for a Faction Victory, and blend in with the other villains, hoping not to be caught.

Featured Games: Legend of Zelda- War in Hyrule (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005), hosted by wideyedwanderer and remake20


Only Ganondorf would be evil enough to go it alone in a place like this, but he's learned to be distrustful of his so-called teammates. Now, the time has come for GANON'S REVENGENING.




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Theme Music: Ganondorf's theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1EAFaro95g)


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[Askthepizzaguy]

CRAZED RABBIT


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CRAZED RABBIT





Team: Anti-Mafia [chaotic]
Team Victory: Eliminate the Mafia [evil] faction. (Incomplete)
Faction: Cosa Nostra
Faction Goal: Outlast the Springfield Mafia and the South Park Mafia. (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Personally rack up the most kills by a single individual in the game. (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:



IMMUNE TO SCAN- You may be faction-scanned, but nothing more can be learned about you.



Learned Abilities:



MURDER (innate power) - You do not need to spend credits to have a base 100% chance of killing someone. However, only one member of your gang may murder, other than Sephiroth. Therefore, you must decide who murders whom every night.


Items:


SkyNet Database- 10% Investigatory chance. Can be used to detect scum. (FACTION SCANNING item)
Golden Powder- 10% bus driver chance. Can be used to create short, bright explosions which disorient two targets and makes them end up in the wrong place. (Bus driver item)
White Eyes- 100% True Scan chance, when a Faction Scanning Item is also in your possession. Can penetrate cover roles and see into your soul, reveals alignment. (TRUE SCAN ITEM)



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Background Information:



You're a member of the Anti-mafia, a gang of assorted criminal masterminds and professional assassins that are from alternate dimensions, summoned by the Angelic One himself: Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was once a mortal being, albeit a very powerful one. He was once considered a hero, and he still considers himself a savior and bringer of justice. But in his twisted vision, he makes himself the most powerful god that ever existed, and destroys all who oppose his version of justice. Sephiroth is considered by many to be utterly mad.

Sephiroth has gathered together other creatures who share his ruthlessness, his madness, and his lust for power. As his second in command, Sephiroth has summoned King Dodongo, the one-time right hand of Ganondorf from the Zelda universe, and current commander of the armies of Ganon. This infernal creature managed to obtain the Triforce of Power from Ganon, the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda, and the Triforce of Courage from the Hero of Time himself, and was able to re-make the lands of Hyrule and Termina as he saw fit, crowing himself King of Hyrule.

Next, Sephiroth summoned Screwtape, the Demon Vampire master from the Shadow Fort, who survived death at the hands of the innocents in the fort and continued to kill them at night, and pose as a corpse during the day. His apprentice, Wormwood, would go on to slay everyone except for the final Hungarian spy. Although they did not survive, the destructive power they unleashed greatly impressed Sephiroth, who summoned the Master Vampire from beyond death itself.

The Angelic One then summoned a being of immense power from the void between Nowhere and Anywhere at all, the Demonic Necromancer known as Reenkis Roinkis. This being was so powerful that it had been defeated over and over again, and refused to die or become extinguished. With power over life and death, this evil master of magic would become a fine addition to Sephiroth's chaotic Anti-mafia gang.

Finally, the great god Sephiroth summoned a creature so foul, so cruel.... that it went on a nearly unstoppable rampage through the streets of Fatlington, New Jersey, wearing a rabbit costume and wielding a shotgun: The deranged and deady assassin known as the Crazed Rabbit. The slippery criminal was able to evade police investigation and identification as a mafia scumbag, while at the same time continually picking off civilians and policemen alike with ease. As one of the most dangerous and unstable gangsters ever to have lived, Sephiroth saw great potential in adding this psychopath to his team.

Sephiroth's gang was forged from chaos and almost limitless power. Their objective: becoming the sole rulers of all dimensions, by removing all the other beings which could pose a threat to their rule... starting with this group of the most violent and dangerous criminals in hell. Should they be unleashed from the underworld, they could gain enough power to challenge Sephiroth's rule. There are also neutrals and weakling innocents, but they were never powerful and will never be powerful enough to defeat Sephiroth.

What Sephiroth has done is something only a truly insane god could envision: having promised these assembled criminals a way out of hell, Sephiroth has led them into a part of hell which has fallen under his godly influence... a dimensional fold where he is able to control time and space, a place where he has nearly limitless power. A place where even immortal souls cannot escape permanent destruction. Sephiroth's plan is to cause them to murder each other in their zeal to destroy him, and then collapse this dimensional fold, utterly annihilating anything "immortal" that existed within this fold. This place is called The Purgatory. Here, the villains will be judged and found guilty of their inferiority, and will be destroyed forever.

Once Sephiroth's plan succeeds, there will be no beings left in all of existence capable of resisting him, and he will become God of Everything. Should Sephiroth personally fall during this battle, his second in command will take his place, and so on, so that Chaos will triumph over Evil, and will forever reign supreme. The desire for power and the tendency to destroy is the tie that binds them all together, even if they have their own objectives.

The Purgatory, wherein the condemned souls will be judged and doomed, is also an arena where they will fight their final battle. But this is a fight where Sephiroth holds all the cards. The chaotic god could destroy them all by himself, but he wishes to watch them struggle for his own sick amusement, in this most dangerous game... a high-risk game that he has allowed himself to play. Since the only thing that stands between Sephiroth and eternal rule of all the universe is his own death, that is the only enemy he faces, and the only challenge remaining, Sephiroth has chosen not to deny himself his only challenge. Let's see if these villains have what it takes to bring him down for good.

Since the stakes are eternal rule of the cosmos, omnipotence and immortality, and the risk is total defeat, eternal death, and powerlessness, this is a game that Sephiroth finds interesting. And his allies have also gone all-in. Let the Chaos begin!


Featured Games: Capo di Tutti Capo III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119802-Capo-di-Tutti-Capi-III-%28Concluded%29), hosted by Seamus Fermanagh

He's just a harmless little bunny, isn't it? Who's a cute widdle bunny wabbit? Who's a cute widdle bunny? ....Why are you pointing a shotgun at my face?

Theme Music: Wherever I may roam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU9XrnF7mnc&feature=related)



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SCREWTAPE


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SCREWTAPE




Team: Anti-Mafia [chaotic]
Team Victory: Eliminate the Mafia [evil] faction. (Incomplete)
Faction: Dark Falls Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Psychotic Mafia and the Bizarro Mafia (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Perform a successful conversion. (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:



NECROHOMICIDE- Can continue to murder even after your own death, so long as one other anti-mafia survives.


Learned Abilities:



MURDER (innate power) - You do not need to spend credits to have a base 100% chance of killing someone. However, only one member of your gang may murder, other than Sephiroth. Therefore, you must decide who murders whom every night.



Items:


Branagh's Custom Desert Eagle- 10% Retaliatory chance, allows you to shoot back when attacked. (Retaliatory item)
Vampire Blood- 100% conversion chance. Can be used twice, but only when all other allies are destroyed. (CONVERSION ITEM)





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Background Information:



You're a member of the Anti-mafia, a gang of assorted criminal masterminds and professional assassins that are from alternate dimensions, summoned by the Angelic One himself: Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was once a mortal being, albeit a very powerful one. He was once considered a hero, and he still considers himself a savior and bringer of justice. But in his twisted vision, he makes himself the most powerful god that ever existed, and destroys all who oppose his version of justice. Sephiroth is considered by many to be utterly mad.

Sephiroth has gathered together other creatures who share his ruthlessness, his madness, and his lust for power. As his second in command, Sephiroth has summoned King Dodongo, the one-time right hand of Ganondorf from the Zelda universe, and current commander of the armies of Ganon. This infernal creature managed to obtain the Triforce of Power from Ganon, the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda, and the Triforce of Courage from the Hero of Time himself, and was able to re-make the lands of Hyrule and Termina as he saw fit, crowing himself King of Hyrule.

Next, Sephiroth summoned Screwtape, the Demon Vampire master from the Shadow Fort, who survived death at the hands of the innocents in the fort and continued to kill them at night, and pose as a corpse during the day. His apprentice, Wormwood, would go on to slay everyone except for the final Hungarian spy. Although they did not survive, the destructive power they unleashed greatly impressed Sephiroth, who summoned the Master Vampire from beyond death itself.

The Angelic One then summoned a being of immense power from the void between Nowhere and Anywhere at all, the Demonic Necromancer known as Reenkis Roinkis. This being was so powerful that it had been defeated over and over again, and refused to die or become extinguished. With power over life and death, this evil master of magic would become a fine addition to Sephiroth's chaotic Anti-mafia gang.

Finally, the great god Sephiroth summoned a creature so foul, so cruel.... that it went on a nearly unstoppable rampage through the streets of Fatlington, New Jersey, wearing a rabbit costume and wielding a shotgun: The deranged and deady assassin known as the Crazed Rabbit. The slippery criminal was able to evade police investigation and identification as a mafia scumbag, while at the same time continually picking off civilians and policemen alike with ease. As one of the most dangerous and unstable gangsters ever to have lived, Sephiroth saw great potential in adding this psychopath to his team.

Sephiroth's gang was forged from chaos and almost limitless power. Their objective: becoming the sole rulers of all dimensions, by removing all the other beings which could pose a threat to their rule... starting with this group of the most violent and dangerous criminals in hell. Should they be unleashed from the underworld, they could gain enough power to challenge Sephiroth's rule. There are also neutrals and weakling innocents, but they were never powerful and will never be powerful enough to defeat Sephiroth.

What Sephiroth has done is something only a truly insane god could envision: having promised these assembled criminals a way out of hell, Sephiroth has led them into a part of hell which has fallen under his godly influence... a dimensional fold where he is able to control time and space, a place where he has nearly limitless power. A place where even immortal souls cannot escape permanent destruction. Sephiroth's plan is to cause them to murder each other in their zeal to destroy him, and then collapse this dimensional fold, utterly annihilating anything "immortal" that existed within this fold. This place is called The Purgatory. Here, the villains will be judged and found guilty of their inferiority, and will be destroyed forever.

Once Sephiroth's plan succeeds, there will be no beings left in all of existence capable of resisting him, and he will become God of Everything. Should Sephiroth personally fall during this battle, his second in command will take his place, and so on, so that Chaos will triumph over Evil, and will forever reign supreme. The desire for power and the tendency to destroy is the tie that binds them all together, even if they have their own objectives.

The Purgatory, wherein the condemned souls will be judged and doomed, is also an arena where they will fight their final battle. But this is a fight where Sephiroth holds all the cards. The chaotic god could destroy them all by himself, but he wishes to watch them struggle for his own sick amusement, in this most dangerous game... a high-risk game that he has allowed himself to play. Since the only thing that stands between Sephiroth and eternal rule of all the universe is his own death, that is the only enemy he faces, and the only challenge remaining, Sephiroth has chosen not to deny himself his only challenge. Let's see if these villains have what it takes to bring him down for good.

Since the stakes are eternal rule of the cosmos, omnipotence and immortality, and the risk is total defeat, eternal death, and powerlessness, this is a game that Sephiroth finds interesting. And his allies have also gone all-in. Let the Chaos begin!


Featured Games: The Shadow Fort (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded), hosted by Crazed Rabbit

You didn't really want to be someone else's minion, did you? You'd prefer to see these others destroyed, so you can start your own Vampire cult, with yourself as the sole leader. This can only be accomplished when all your teammates besides yourself are dead.

Theme Music: Dragula (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Z1Zrot-go) (what else?)


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REENKIS ROINKIS


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REENKIS ROINKIS





Team: Anti-Mafia [chaotic]
Team Victory: Eliminate the Mafia [evil] faction. (Incomplete)
Faction: Psychotic Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Evil Mafia and the Cosa Nostra. (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Revive twice during the game, or be the last anti-mafia standing. (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:



IMMUNE TO ROLEBLOCK (innate power) - You can never be roleblocked, ever.

Learned Abilities:



MURDER (innate power) - You do not need to spend credits to have a base 100% chance of killing someone. This combines automatically with your override item, but not with your Rite of Destruction item or similar (vigilantism) items.


Items:


Porcelain Doll-10% Roleblock chance. Evil porcelain doll, causes madness (Roleblock Item)
Utility Flashlight- 10% Bulletproof chance. Can shine in someone's eyes, causing temporary blindness. (Bulletproof item)
Unholy Urn- 100% Revive chance, one-time use. Can be used to restore the life of one character once. (REVIVE ITEM)



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Background Information:



You're a member of the Anti-mafia, a gang of assorted criminal masterminds and professional assassins that are from alternate dimensions, summoned by the Angelic One himself: Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was once a mortal being, albeit a very powerful one. He was once considered a hero, and he still considers himself a savior and bringer of justice. But in his twisted vision, he makes himself the most powerful god that ever existed, and destroys all who oppose his version of justice. Sephiroth is considered by many to be utterly mad.

Sephiroth has gathered together other creatures who share his ruthlessness, his madness, and his lust for power. As his second in command, Sephiroth has summoned King Dodongo, the one-time right hand of Ganondorf from the Zelda universe, and current commander of the armies of Ganon. This infernal creature managed to obtain the Triforce of Power from Ganon, the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda, and the Triforce of Courage from the Hero of Time himself, and was able to re-make the lands of Hyrule and Termina as he saw fit, crowing himself King of Hyrule.

Next, Sephiroth summoned Screwtape, the Demon Vampire master from the Shadow Fort, who survived death at the hands of the innocents in the fort and continued to kill them at night, and pose as a corpse during the day. His apprentice, Wormwood, would go on to slay everyone except for the final Hungarian spy. Although they did not survive, the destructive power they unleashed greatly impressed Sephiroth, who summoned the Master Vampire from beyond death itself.

The Angelic One then summoned a being of immense power from the void between Nowhere and Anywhere at all, the Demonic Necromancer known as Reenkis Roinkis. This being was so powerful that it had been defeated over and over again, and refused to die or become extinguished. With power over life and death, this evil master of magic would become a fine addition to Sephiroth's chaotic Anti-mafia gang.

Finally, the great god Sephiroth summoned a creature so foul, so cruel.... that it went on a nearly unstoppable rampage through the streets of Fatlington, New Jersey, wearing a rabbit costume and wielding a shotgun: The deranged and deady assassin known as the Crazed Rabbit. The slippery criminal was able to evade police investigation and identification as a mafia scumbag, while at the same time continually picking off civilians and policemen alike with ease. As one of the most dangerous and unstable gangsters ever to have lived, Sephiroth saw great potential in adding this psychopath to his team.

Sephiroth's gang was forged from chaos and almost limitless power. Their objective: becoming the sole rulers of all dimensions, by removing all the other beings which could pose a threat to their rule... starting with this group of the most violent and dangerous criminals in hell. Should they be unleashed from the underworld, they could gain enough power to challenge Sephiroth's rule. There are also neutrals and weakling innocents, but they were never powerful and will never be powerful enough to defeat Sephiroth.

What Sephiroth has done is something only a truly insane god could envision: having promised these assembled criminals a way out of hell, Sephiroth has led them into a part of hell which has fallen under his godly influence... a dimensional fold where he is able to control time and space, a place where he has nearly limitless power. A place where even immortal souls cannot escape permanent destruction. Sephiroth's plan is to cause them to murder each other in their zeal to destroy him, and then collapse this dimensional fold, utterly annihilating anything "immortal" that existed within this fold. This place is called The Purgatory. Here, the villains will be judged and found guilty of their inferiority, and will be destroyed forever.

Once Sephiroth's plan succeeds, there will be no beings left in all of existence capable of resisting him, and he will become God of Everything. Should Sephiroth personally fall during this battle, his second in command will take his place, and so on, so that Chaos will triumph over Evil, and will forever reign supreme. The desire for power and the tendency to destroy is the tie that binds them all together, even if they have their own objectives.

The Purgatory, wherein the condemned souls will be judged and doomed, is also an arena where they will fight their final battle. But this is a fight where Sephiroth holds all the cards. The chaotic god could destroy them all by himself, but he wishes to watch them struggle for his own sick amusement, in this most dangerous game... a high-risk game that he has allowed himself to play. Since the only thing that stands between Sephiroth and eternal rule of all the universe is his own death, that is the only enemy he faces, and the only challenge remaining, Sephiroth has chosen not to deny himself his only challenge. Let's see if these villains have what it takes to bring him down for good.

Since the stakes are eternal rule of the cosmos, omnipotence and immortality, and the risk is total defeat, eternal death, and powerlessness, this is a game that Sephiroth finds interesting. And his allies have also gone all-in. Let the Chaos begin!


Featured Games: Swords and D20's (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120054-Swords-and-D20-s-Small-Mafia-Game-%28Concluded%29), hosted by Cultured Drizzt Fan
(https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
Defeated twice? Three times? How many times have you been defeated, Reenkis? Does it matter? You're bloody immortal and you're a master of life and death. You'll never die. But your enemies will. :evil:

You'd prefer to show off your incredible command of life and death, if you can. Failing that, you're not interested in being anyone's minion. You'd prefer to be the last anti-mafioso standing, and rule the universe yourself. Reenkis Roinkis is no one's second banana.

Theme Music: Final Battle theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJvz7mekv7c&feature=player_embedded)


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KING DODONGO / KAFEI


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KING DODONGO




Team: Anti-Mafia [chaotic]
Team Victory: Eliminate the Mafia [evil] faction. (Incomplete)
Faction: South Park Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Springfield Mafia and the Dark Falls Mafia (Incomplete)
Personal Goal: Locate Anju using the Pendant of Memories, then give her the item. (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:



PARTLY IMMUNE TO NIGHT KILL- You cannot be destroyed at night, except by your own allies or by an OVERRIDE ability.



Learned Abilities:



MURDER (innate power) - You do not need to spend credits to have a base 100% chance of killing someone. However, only one member of your gang may murder, other than Sephiroth. Therefore, you must decide who murders whom every night.


Items:


Winged Demons- 10% Bus Driver. Sometimes allows you to abduct two targets and force them to switch places. (Bus Driver item)
Mirror Shield- 10% Retaliatory chance. Allows you to redirect fire back at your opponent. (Retaliatory Item)
Pendant of Memories (Allows you to scan for your TRUE LOVE. Find her and give her this item) (Special Scanning item)



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Background Information:



You're a member of the Anti-mafia, a gang of assorted criminal masterminds and professional assassins that are from alternate dimensions, summoned by the Angelic One himself: Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was once a mortal being, albeit a very powerful one. He was once considered a hero, and he still considers himself a savior and bringer of justice. But in his twisted vision, he makes himself the most powerful god that ever existed, and destroys all who oppose his version of justice. Sephiroth is considered by many to be utterly mad.

Sephiroth has gathered together other creatures who share his ruthlessness, his madness, and his lust for power. As his second in command, Sephiroth has summoned King Dodongo, the one-time right hand of Ganondorf from the Zelda universe, and current commander of the armies of Ganon. This infernal creature managed to obtain the Triforce of Power from Ganon, the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda, and the Triforce of Courage from the Hero of Time himself, and was able to re-make the lands of Hyrule and Termina as he saw fit, crowing himself King of Hyrule.

Next, Sephiroth summoned Screwtape, the Demon Vampire master from the Shadow Fort, who survived death at the hands of the innocents in the fort and continued to kill them at night, and pose as a corpse during the day. His apprentice, Wormwood, would go on to slay everyone except for the final Hungarian spy. Although they did not survive, the destructive power they unleashed greatly impressed Sephiroth, who summoned the Master Vampire from beyond death itself.

The Angelic One then summoned a being of immense power from the void between Nowhere and Anywhere at all, the Demonic Necromancer known as Reenkis Roinkis. This being was so powerful that it had been defeated over and over again, and refused to die or become extinguished. With power over life and death, this evil master of magic would become a fine addition to Sephiroth's chaotic Anti-mafia gang.

Finally, the great god Sephiroth summoned a creature so foul, so cruel.... that it went on a nearly unstoppable rampage through the streets of Fatlington, New Jersey, wearing a rabbit costume and wielding a shotgun: The deranged and deady assassin known as the Crazed Rabbit. The slippery criminal was able to evade police investigation and identification as a mafia scumbag, while at the same time continually picking off civilians and policemen alike with ease. As one of the most dangerous and unstable gangsters ever to have lived, Sephiroth saw great potential in adding this psychopath to his team.

Sephiroth's gang was forged from chaos and almost limitless power. Their objective: becoming the sole rulers of all dimensions, by removing all the other beings which could pose a threat to their rule... starting with this group of the most violent and dangerous criminals in hell. Should they be unleashed from the underworld, they could gain enough power to challenge Sephiroth's rule. There are also neutrals and weakling innocents, but they were never powerful and will never be powerful enough to defeat Sephiroth.

What Sephiroth has done is something only a truly insane god could envision: having promised these assembled criminals a way out of hell, Sephiroth has led them into a part of hell which has fallen under his godly influence... a dimensional fold where he is able to control time and space, a place where he has nearly limitless power. A place where even immortal souls cannot escape permanent destruction. Sephiroth's plan is to cause them to murder each other in their zeal to destroy him, and then collapse this dimensional fold, utterly annihilating anything "immortal" that existed within this fold. This place is called The Purgatory. Here, the villains will be judged and found guilty of their inferiority, and will be destroyed forever.

Once Sephiroth's plan succeeds, there will be no beings left in all of existence capable of resisting him, and he will become God of Everything. Should Sephiroth personally fall during this battle, his second in command will take his place, and so on, so that Chaos will triumph over Evil, and will forever reign supreme. The desire for power and the tendency to destroy is the tie that binds them all together, even if they have their own objectives.

The Purgatory, wherein the condemned souls will be judged and doomed, is also an arena where they will fight their final battle. But this is a fight where Sephiroth holds all the cards. The chaotic god could destroy them all by himself, but he wishes to watch them struggle for his own sick amusement, in this most dangerous game... a high-risk game that he has allowed himself to play. Since the only thing that stands between Sephiroth and eternal rule of all the universe is his own death, that is the only enemy he faces, and the only challenge remaining, Sephiroth has chosen not to deny himself his only challenge. Let's see if these villains have what it takes to bring him down for good.

Since the stakes are eternal rule of the cosmos, omnipotence and immortality, and the risk is total defeat, eternal death, and powerlessness, this is a game that Sephiroth finds interesting. And his allies have also gone all-in. Let the Chaos begin!


Featured Games: The Legend of Zelda, War in Hyrule (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005) hosted by wideyedwanderer and remake20

King Dodongo has a terrible secret that you do not want to share with the other members of your gang. You are really Kafei (http://www.zeldawiki.org/Kafei) in disguise, and your main objective is to reunite with Anju (http://www.zeldawiki.org/Anju) and save her from death. You're not as interested in conquering the cosmos.

If you fail in this task, however, the young man Kafei will die, and be replaced by a cold, heartless KING DODONGO.

Please note: Informing your allies that you're really Kafei, and that you have the Pendant of Memories and that you're looking for Anju, will be quite dangerous.

Also please note: There is someone out there on a mission to destroy both you and Anju. Revealing yourself publicly will likely end your mission in DEFEAT.

Theme Music: Dodongo's Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKWOb5PMY4)


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SEPHIROTH


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SEPHIROTH





Team: Anti-Mafia [CHAOTIC]
Team Victory: Eliminate the Mafia [evil] faction. (Incomplete)
Faction: Evil Mafia faction
Faction Goal: Outlast the Space Mafia and the Cosa Nostra. (Incomplete)
REAL Personal Goal: Be the last anti-mafioso left standing, or slay at least one member of every mafia faction before you die. (Incomplete)



Credits: 100



Secret Ability: (Unknown to you at the start)
Additional Abilities:


IMMUNE TO SCAN (innate power) - People can only tell what faction you're on.

IMMUNE TO ROLEBLOCK (innate power) - You can never be roleblocked, ever.

IMMUNE TO VIGILANTE ATTACK (innate power) - You can never be vigilante killed, ever.

IMMUNE TO RETALIATION (innate power) - You cannot be killed via retaliation, ever.


Learned Abilities:


MURDER (innate power) - You do not need to spend credits to have a base 100% chance of killing someone. This combines automatically with your override item, but not with your Rite of Destruction item or similar (vigilantism) items.


Items:


Ritual of Destruction Ceremonial Knife- 10% vigilante chance. Allows you to kill someone in a horrible, horrible manner. (Vigilante item)
Masamune- 40% OVERRIDE chance. Automatically combines with any vigilante item to attempt a kill through protection. (OVERRIDE item)
Petrify Spell- 50% SILENCER chance. Use this item on a target, and they will be unable to speak or vote for one day phase. (Silencer item)
Phoenix Down- 100% SELF-REVIVE chance, single use only. Should you be lynched, you will be able to revive yourself that night and will be alive the next day. This item is not transferable unless it is stolen from you. You're not a giving person. (SELF-REVIVE ITEM)




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Background Information:


You're a member of the Anti-mafia, a gang of assorted criminal masterminds and professional assassins that are from alternate dimensions, summoned by the Angelic One himself: Sephiroth.

Sephiroth was once a mortal being, albeit a very powerful one. He was once considered a hero, and he still considers himself a savior and bringer of justice. But in his twisted vision, he makes himself the most powerful god that ever existed, and destroys all who oppose his version of justice. Sephiroth is considered by many to be utterly mad.

Sephiroth has gathered together other creatures who share his ruthlessness, his madness, and his lust for power. As his second in command, Sephiroth has summoned King Dodongo, the one-time right hand of Ganondorf from the Zelda universe, and current commander of the armies of Ganon. This infernal creature managed to obtain the Triforce of Power from Ganon, the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda, and the Triforce of Courage from the Hero of Time himself, and was able to re-make the lands of Hyrule and Termina as he saw fit, crowing himself King of Hyrule.

Next, Sephiroth summoned Screwtape, the Demon Vampire master from the Shadow Fort, who survived death at the hands of the innocents in the fort and continued to kill them at night, and pose as a corpse during the day. His apprentice, Wormwood, would go on to slay everyone except for the final Hungarian spy. Although they did not survive, the destructive power they unleashed greatly impressed Sephiroth, who summoned the Master Vampire from beyond death itself.

The Angelic One then summoned a being of immense power from the void between Nowhere and Anywhere at all, the Demonic Necromancer known as Reenkis Roinkis. This being was so powerful that it had been defeated over and over again, and refused to die or become extinguished. With power over life and death, this evil master of magic would become a fine addition to Sephiroth's chaotic Anti-mafia gang.

Finally, the great god Sephiroth summoned a creature so foul, so cruel.... that it went on a nearly unstoppable rampage through the streets of Fatlington, New Jersey, wearing a rabbit costume and wielding a shotgun: The deranged and deady assassin known as the Crazed Rabbit. The slippery criminal was able to evade police investigation and identification as a mafia scumbag, while at the same time continually picking off civilians and policemen alike with ease. As one of the most dangerous and unstable gangsters ever to have lived, Sephiroth saw great potential in adding this psychopath to his team.

Sephiroth's gang was forged from chaos and almost limitless power. Their objective: becoming the sole rulers of all dimensions, by removing all the other beings which could pose a threat to their rule... starting with this group of the most violent and dangerous criminals in hell. Should they be unleashed from the underworld, they could gain enough power to challenge Sephiroth's rule. There are also neutrals and weakling innocents, but they were never powerful and will never be powerful enough to defeat Sephiroth.

What Sephiroth has done is something only a truly insane god could envision: having promised these assembled criminals a way out of hell, Sephiroth has led them into a part of hell which has fallen under his godly influence... a dimensional fold where he is able to control time and space, a place where he has nearly limitless power. A place where even immortal souls cannot escape permanent destruction. Sephiroth's plan is to cause them to murder each other in their zeal to destroy him, and then collapse this dimensional fold, utterly annihilating anything "immortal" that existed within this fold. This place is called The Purgatory. Here, the villains will be judged and found guilty of their inferiority, and will be destroyed forever.

Once Sephiroth's plan succeeds, there will be no beings left in all of existence capable of resisting him, and he will become God of Everything. Should Sephiroth personally fall during this battle, his second in command will take his place, and so on, so that Chaos will triumph over Evil, and will forever reign supreme. The desire for power and the tendency to destroy is the tie that binds them all together, even if they have their own objectives.

The Purgatory, wherein the condemned souls will be judged and doomed, is also an arena where they will fight their final battle. But this is a fight where Sephiroth holds all the cards. The chaotic god could destroy them all by himself, but he wishes to watch them struggle for his own sick amusement, in this most dangerous game... a high-risk game that he has allowed himself to play. Since the only thing that stands between Sephiroth and eternal rule of all the universe is his own death, that is the only enemy he faces, and the only challenge remaining, Sephiroth has chosen not to deny himself his only challenge. Let's see if these villains have what it takes to bring him down for good.

Since the stakes are eternal rule of the cosmos, omnipotence and immortality, and the risk is total defeat, eternal death, and powerlessness, this is a game that Sephiroth finds interesting. And his allies have also gone all-in. Let the Chaos begin!



Featured Games: The Council of Villains (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?115505-The-Council-of-Villains-Large-Mafia-Game-%28Concluded%29), hosted by Chaotix

You are the Chosen One. You will bring chaos and destruction to them all.... to destroy them.... to.... SAVE them from their meaningless existence. You will be all that remains of the old world.

Theme Music: One Winged Angel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5st0b3ln5U)


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Thread re-opened.

[shlin28]

Awesome ending! Congrats to Renata the Chaotics, very well played! Special mention to my Evil team-mates of course :smoking:

Can't wait to read the commentaries - Chaotic QT is hilarious! :laugh4:

[Visor]

Pity the only good contribution I made was kinda exposing Chaotix.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Great ending. Only question I have is for Romanic - what the heck were those rants down Steam chat for? You turned up completely innocent and I bought everything you said.

[shlin28]

According to the Chaotic QT, it was ACIN pretending to be Romanic - it was probably one of the most outrageous and daring moves attempted by a mafia player ever!

[Askthepizzaguy]

This quicktopic has the dubious distinction of having the most F-bombs dropped in it of all time.

That was on post 266. Of 733.

There was MUCH more swearing afterward. You really probably want to read this quicktopic. It's um..... colorful.



According to the Chaotic QT, it was ACIN pretending to be Romanic - it was probably one of the most outrageous and daring moves attempted by a mafia player ever!

THAT was pretty gosh-danged genius. I'm sorry, but that's completely legal and I applaud the creativity.

[Diamondeye]

Special thanks to Chaotix, Diamondeye, God Emperor and especially Seon for being the best team I could have imagined.

You picked your team well, Cap'n :wink:


According to the Chaotic QT, it was ACIN pretending to be Romanic - it was probably one of the most outrageous and daring moves attempted by a mafia player ever!

Indeed. I would like to re-iterate what I said somewhere in the QT, to ATPG. No-one can say there weren't any diamonds involved in our play.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed. I would like to re-iterate what I said somewhere in the QT, to ATPG. No-one can say there weren't any diamonds involved in our play.

Yeah, the Chaotic team had a pair of diamonds. 10 and Jack, right next to each other, nestled snugly between the rest of the cards.

I wonder what the Freudian interpretation of THAT could possibly be....

[Visor]

They had hearts?

[Askthepizzaguy]

SECRET ABILITIES AND STARTING ITEMS


ACIN- God of Destruction / Sephiroth Secret ability- Berserker- natural 10% chance of retaliation
SEPHIROTH: Immune to scan, Immune to roleblock, Immune to night kill, Immune to retaliation
40% override, kill through protection (Masamune- Allows for total pwnage)
50% silencer chance. (Petrify Spell, allows you to turn someone into solid stone for 24 hours)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Ritual of Destruction ceremonial knife)
100% survive a lynch (Phoenix Down, allows you to survive one lynch attempt)

ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob / Ganondorf Secret ability- Disguises- natural 20% chance of false scan results.
10% bus driver chance. (Rope, can be used to tie up someone and replace them with someone else)
50% silencer chance. (Gag, can be used to silence someone for an entire day and night phase)
20% Override (stolen tactical nuke, can be used to break through protection... if it successfully detonates, that is....)

Autolycus- Lore Secret ability- Encrypted- resistance to theft (20%)
10% bus driver chance. (Mobile hologram emitter, can cause confused identities)

Backwards Logic- Fire Brother Secret ability- Red Shells- natural vigilante talent (10%)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Fireball)

Beefy187- Teacher Josh Timman Secret ability- Bloodthirsty- any vigilantism will have a bonus 10%
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Chainsaw, can cause mayhem if you get too close...)

Believer- Waylon Smithers Secret ability- Security Cameras- any investigation has better chance of success.
10% defender chance. (Revolver, can be used to shoot drunkenly at assassins)

Beskar- Psycho Andy Secret ability- Provider- Able to detect Secret abilities.
10% bulletproof chance. (Andy's lucky badge, once stopped a bullet)

Bow-wow-wow- Beary Secret ability- Blood Orgy- natural 10% chance of roleblock
10% vigilante kill chance. (Bear claw, can be used to maul someone)

ByzantineKnight- El Gigante Secret ability- Toughness- natural 10% chance of bulletproof.
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Omega virus sample, causes violent transformations)

B_Ray- Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog Secret ability- Unstoppable- natural 20% chance of anti-roleblock
10% vigilante kill chance. (Killer Rabbit, has teeth the size of.... well, he can leap about.... just look at the bones!!!)

Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld Secret ability- Peanuts on a plane- Natural bus driver talent (20%)
10% bulletproof chance. (The Puffy Shirt, allows you to make someone laugh at you instead of attacking you. It makes you look like a pirate, even if you don't want to be a pirate.)

Chaotix- Satan / Dodongo / Kafei Secret ability- Ambiguously evil- natural 20% chance of false scan results. (Secret
ability cannot be detected)
KING DODONGO: Immune to night kill
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Mirror Shield, allows you to kill your attacker)
10% bus driver chance. (Winged Demons, can be used to force two people to switch places)
100% ????? (Pendant of Memories, unknown effects)

choxorn- Choir Director James Marshall Secret ability- Bloodthirsty- any vigilantism will have a bonus 10%
10% bus driver chance. (Actual bus. Yes, there was a bus in that story, so he's got a real bus.)

civplayah- Professor Farnsworth Secret ability- Cloning machine- any revive has better chance of success.
10% investigatory chance. (Extra-thick glasses, can be used to see things that others cannot see)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Classical_hero- Black Beast of Arrrgghhhh Secret ability- Unstoppable- natural 20% chance of anti-roleblock
10% retaliatory kill chance. (The animator Terry Gilliam, who suffers a fatal heart attack when you die....)

Crazed Rabbit- Vincenzo Valerio Secret ability- Whacking day- natural vigilante talent (10%)
10% defender chance. (Brass knuckles, can be used to engage in a brawl)

Csargo- Porcupiney Secret ability- Satanic ritual- any revive has better chance of success.
10% defender chance. (Porcupine spines, can be used to stun an attacker)

dcmort93- Arnold Grande Secret ability- Retaliation- natural 10% chance of retaliation
10% vigilante kill chance. (Golden Luger, can be used to sometimes perform a kill)

Death is Yonder- Darth Kojiro Secret ability- Morichro- roleblock specialist (20%)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Red lightsaber, can be used to attack someone)

Diamondeye- White_eyes / Crazed Rabbit Secret ability- Lucky!- natural evasion of murder, roleblock, bus driver (20%)
CRAZED RABBIT: Immune to scan
10% bus driver chance. (golden powder, can cause exposions and disorientation)
10% investigatory chance. (SkyNet analysis database, can be used to detect scum)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
100% True Scan (White Eyes, can penetrate cover roles and see into your soul, but only when combined with a Faction Scanning Item)

Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny Secret ability- Wormhole- natural bus driver talent (20%)
10% investigatory chance. (Wolfen Fighter, piloted by Wolf O'Donnell. Can be used to scan others with its sensors)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Double A- Claire Raval Secret ability- Retaliation- natural 10% chance of retaliation
10% vigilante kill chance. (Custom Beretta)

Earthling- Black Knight who always Triumphs Secret ability- Invincible- natural 3 lives.
10% bulletproof chance. (King Arthur's shield, can protect one from attack. Or is it five?)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Excalibur, can be used to defeat the mightiest foe, maybe.)
10% investigatory chance. (Unladen swallow, can be trained to gather information, and coconuts.)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

El Barto- Head Knight who says Ni Secret ability- Defender- natural 10% chance of defenses.
10% roleblock chance. (The sacred words Ni, Peng, and Nee-wom. Can melt the brain of all those who are not ready to hear them)

Fluffyone- Advice Dog Secret ability- Spam- able to spam someone into submission, roleblock 10%
10% bus driver chance. (Advice Dog Meme, can be used to give bad advice to someone)

GamezRule- Pastor Richard Bird Secret ability- Bloodthirsty- any vigilantism will have a bonus 10%
10% defender chance. (Prayer book, can invoke divine intervention)

God Emperor- YLC / Reenkis Roinkis Secret ability- Toughness- natural 10% chance of bulletproof.
REENKIS ROINKIS: Immune to roleblock
10% roleblock chance. (Evil porcelain doll, causes madness)
10% bulletproof chance. (Utility flashlight, can shine in someone's eyes, causing temporary blindness)
100% Revive one time (Unholy urn, can restore life to one person, once)

Greyblades- The Snatcher Secret ability- Swarm- they just keep coming! 10% bulletproof
10% roleblock chance. (Parasite swarm, can severely impair someone's movements)

Ironside- Kansas C. Smith Secret ability- Combat veteran- natural defensive talent (10%)
40% override, kill through protection (Experimental Virus, may cause a Tyrant to appear)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Silenced handgun)

Jolt- Bane Anded Secret ability- Morichro- roleblock specialist (20%)
10% investigatory chance. (Jedi Holocron, allows you to learn more about someone)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% bulletproof chance. (Security forcefield, allows you to generate a personal protection shield)

Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy Secret ability- Veteran of Violence- any vigilantism has better chance of success.
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Giant cartoon mallet)

landlubber- Salvatore Valerio Secret ability- Counterfeit money- any credits stolen from you will re-appear. (100%)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Tommy gun, can be used to whack someone what don't pay da boss his money)

Link- Mr Burns Secret ability- Sticky fingers- steal has better chance of success.
10% bulletproof chance. (Gorilla Vest, made of real gorilla chest)

Major Robert Dump- Rudolph Secret ability- Greedy- bonus to theft (10%)
10% bulletproof chance. (Santa's Vodka, can be used to distract someone)

B_Ray2- Squirrely Secret ability- Gathering- any steal has a better chance of success (10%)
10% investigatory chance. (Rabbity the Rabbit, can distract someone with his cuteness)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Mythmonster2- Pyramid Head Secret ability- Regeneration- any stolen credits will regenerate after one day/night cycle (100%)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Giant psychotic sword of doom)

Psychonaut- Manbearpig Secret ability- Enraged- any vigilante attempt has a better chance of success
10% bulletproof chance. (Super Cereal- gives you enough strength to cheat death, maybe. I'm totally cereal!)

Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin / Anju Secret ability- Regeneration- any stolen credits will regenerate after one day/night cycle (100%)
10% investigatory chance. (Las Plagas Parasite, causes enhanced senses...)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Renata- Mace Windu Secret ability- Force Sense- able to detect secret abilities and faction through scan. (99%)
10% defender chance. (Purple lightsaber, can be used to defend someone)
80% chance of theft (Blaster, can be used to stun someone and take their things)

Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy Secret ability- Analysis- natural scanning talent (10%)
10% bulletproof chance. (blue Jaguar XK 120, allows for a quick escape)

Romanic- Lord of Annihilation Secret ability- Regeneration- any stolen credits will regenerate after one day/night cycle (100%)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Demon Kobe rats, allows you to kill someone in a horrible, horrible manner.)

Seon- Alfred Branagh / Screwtape Secret ability- Toughness- natural 10% chance of bulletproof.
SCREWTAPE: Can continue killing even after his own death
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Branagh's Custom Desert Eagle)
100% conversion chance. (Vampire blood- can only be used twice when all allies are destroyed)

shlin28- Boomerang Brother Secret ability- Ghost- natural stealing talent (10%)
20% bulletproof chance. (Starman)

Skooma Addict- Fluffy Bunny Secret ability- Undetectable- Scans, roleblocks, retaliations, defenses fail (75%)
10% roleblock chance. (Cute little bunny, causes someone to awwwww instead of their intended action).

Subotan- Tony Valerio Secret ability- Taxi ride- natural bus driver talent (20%)
10% roleblock chance. (Cement shoes, can be used to stop someone from acting)

TheFlax- Blitzen Secret ability- Greedy- bonus to theft (10%)
10% investigatory chance. (Traitorous elf, can be used to snoop around)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Visorslash- Saddam Hussein Secret ability- Where was I gonna go, Detroit? - natural 10% bulletproof chance
10% roleblock chance. (14 bottles of vegetable oil, can be used to keep someone "busy" all night)

Warman- Zapp Brannigan Secret ability- Animal instincts- any investigation has better chance of success.
10% roleblock chance. (Torn shirt, allows you to engage in an uneccessary and cheesy brawl with someone, possibly preventing them from taking any action)

YLC- Hammer Brother Secret ability- Green Shells- natural defender talent (10%)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Red Shell)

Zack- Klingon Assassin Secret ability- Pain sticks- able to block someone more effectively 10%
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Bat'leth, weapon of klingon warriors)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Here are the items by category; added together, they would equal the following item {maximum power}

10% bulletproof chance. (Gorilla Vest, made of real gorilla chest)
10% bulletproof chance. (Bulletproof vest, can be used to help stop lethal blows)
10% bulletproof chance. (Super Cereal- gives you enough strength to cheat death, maybe. I'm totally cereal!)
10% bulletproof chance. (King Arthur's shield, can protect one from attack. Or is it five?)
10% bulletproof chance. (Andy's lucky badge, once stopped a bullet)
10% bulletproof chance. (Utility flashlight, can shine in someone's eyes, causing temporary blindness)
10% bulletproof chance. (Security forcefield, allows you to generate a personal protection shield)
10% bulletproof chance. (Santa's Vodka, can be used to distract someone)
10% bulletproof chance. (The Puffy Shirt, allows you to make someone laugh at you instead of attacking you. It makes you look like a pirate, even if you don't want to be a pirate.)
20% bulletproof chance. (Starman)
10% bulletproof chance. (blue Jaguar XK 120, allows for a quick escape)
========================================================
120% bulletproof in total. (TANOOKI SUIT)

10% defender chance. (Revolver, can be used to shoot drunkenly at assassins)
10% defender chance. (Porcupine spines, can be used to stun an attacker)
10% defender chance. (Pendant of Memories, can be used to save someone else from death)
10% defender chance. (Prayer book, can invoke divine intervention)
10% defender chance. (Purple lightsaber, can be used to defend someone)
10% defender chance. (Brass knuckles, can be used to engage in a brawl)
========================================================
60% defender in total. (MAGNUM)

10% vigilante kill chance. (Golden Luger, can be used to sometimes perform a kill)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Custom Beretta)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Bear claw, can be used to maul someone)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Killer Rabbit, has teeth the size of.... well, he can leap about.... just look at the bones!!!)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Giant psychotic sword of doom)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Red lightsaber, can be used to attack someone)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Demon Kobe rats, allows you to kill someone in a horrible, horrible manner.)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Ritual of Destruction ceremonial knife)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Red Shell)
10% vigilante kill chance. (Silenced handgun)
=========================================
100% vigilante chance in total. (KILLER RABBIT)

10% investigatory chance. (Extra-thick glasses, can be used to see things that others cannot see)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (Las Plagas Parasite, causes enhanced senses, among other things)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (Rabbity the Rabbit, can distract someone with his cuteness)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (Unladen swallow, can be trained to gather information, and coconuts.)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (Jedi Holocron, allows you to learn more about someone)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (Traitorous elf, can be used to snoop around)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (Wolfen Fighter, piloted by Wolf O'Donnell. Can be used to scan others with its sensors)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
10% investigatory chance. (SkyNet analysis database, can be used to detect scum)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
===============================
80% investigatory chance in total. (SKYNET ANALYSIS DATABASE)

10% roleblock chance. (Torn shirt, allows you to engage in an uneccessary and cheesy brawl with someone, possibly preventing them from taking any action)
10% roleblock chance. (14 bottles of vegetable oil, can be used to keep someone "busy" all night)
10% roleblock chance. (The sacred words Ni, Peng, and Nee-wom. Can melt the brain of all those who are not ready to hear them)
10% roleblock chance. (Evil porcelain doll, causes madness)
10% roleblock chance. (Parasite swarm, can severely impair someone's movements)
10% roleblock chance. (Cute little bunny, causes someone to awwwww instead of their intended action).
10% roleblock chance. (Cement shoes, can be used to stop someone from acting)
==============================
70% roleblock chance in total. (CEMENT SHOES)

10% retaliatory kill chance. (Giant cartoon mallet)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Branagh's Custom Desert Eagle)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Omega virus sample, causes violent transformations)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Mirror Shield, allows you to kill your attacker)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Excalibur, can be used to defeat the mightiest foe, maybe.)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (The animator Terry Gilliam, who suffers a fatal heart attack when you die....)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Chainsaw, can cause mayhem if you get too close...)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Bat'leth, weapon of klingon warriors)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Fireball)
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Tommy gun, can be used to whack someone what don't pay da boss his money)
====================================
100% retaliatory kill chance in total. (MIRROR SHIELD)

10% bus driver chance. (Rope, can be used to tie up someone and replace them with someone else)
10% bus driver chance. (Winged Demons, can be used to force two people to switch places)
10% bus driver chance. (Actual bus. Yes, there was a bus in that story, so he's got a real bus.)
10% bus driver chance. (Mobile hologram emitter, can cause confused identities)
10% bus driver chance. (Advice Dog Meme, can be used to give bad advice to someone)
10% bus driver chance. (golden powder, can cause exposions and disorientation)
================================
60% bus driver chance in total. (TRANSPORTER PAD)

50% silencer chance. (Gag, can be used to silence someone for an entire day and night phase)
50% silencer chance. (Petrify Spell, allows you to turn someone into solid stone for 24 hours)
=========================
100% silence chance in total. (ZOMBIE SPELL)

20% Override (stolen tactical nuke, can be used to break through protection... if it successfully detonates, that is....)
40% override, kill through protection (Masamune- Allows for total pwnage)
40% override, kill through protection (Experimental Virus, may cause a Tyrant to appear)
=========================
100% override chance in total. (TRIFORCE)

100% conversion chance. (Vampire blood- can only be used when all allies are destroyed)
====================================================
100% conversion chance in total. Can convert up to 2 victims total.

80% chance of theft (Blaster, can be used to stun someone and take their things)
==============
80% theft in total.

[Seon]

Being under an El gigante sure gave me a cramp :p

[Askthepizzaguy]

Super Tough Guys: (INVINCIBLE EVIL)
Earthling- Black Knight who always Triumphs Secret ability- Invincible- natural 3 lives.
Tough guys: (BULLETPROOF EVIL)
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante Secret ability- Toughness- natural 10% chance of bulletproof.
Greyblades- The Snatcher Secret ability- Swarm- they just keep coming! 10% bulletproof
Ironside- Kansas C. Smith Secret ability- Combat veteran- natural defensive talent (10%)
Visorslash- Saddam Hussein Secret ability- Where was I gonna go, Detroit? - natural 10% bulletproof chance

shlin28- Boomerang Brother
20% bulletproof chance. (Starman)

Link- Mr Burns
10% bulletproof chance. (Gorilla Vest, made of real gorilla chest)

Major Robert Dump- Rudolph
10% bulletproof chance. (Santa's Vodka, can be used to distract someone)

Psychonaut- Manbearpig
10% bulletproof chance. (Super Cereal- gives you enough strength to cheat death, maybe. I'm totally cereal!)

Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy
10% bulletproof chance. (blue Jaguar XK 120, allows for a quick escape)
Vengeful Guys: (RETALIATORY EVIL)
Double A- Claire Raval Secret ability- Retaliation- natural 10% chance of retaliation
dcmort93- Arnold Grande Secret ability- Retaliation- natural 10% chance of retaliation

Backwards Logic- Fire Brother
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Fireball)

Beefy187- Teacher Josh Timman
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Chainsaw, can cause mayhem if you get too close...)

ByzantineKnight- El Gigante
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Omega virus sample, causes violent transformations)

Classical_hero- Black Beast of Arrrgghhhh
10% retaliatory kill chance. (The animator Terry Gilliam, who suffers a fatal heart attack when you die....)

Earthling- Black Knight who always Triumphs
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Excalibur, can be used to defeat the mightiest foe, maybe.)

Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Giant cartoon mallet)

landlubber- Salvatore Valerio
10% retaliatory kill chance. (Tommy gun, can be used to whack someone what don't pay da boss his money)
Aggressive Guys: (VIGILANTE EVIL)
Psychonaut- Manbearpig Secret ability- Enraged- any vigilante attempt has a better chance of success (20%)
Backwards Logic- Fire Brother Secret ability- Red Shells- natural vigilante talent (10%)
Beefy187- Teacher Josh Timman Secret ability- Bloodthirsty- any vigilantism will have a bonus 10%
choxorn- Choir Director James Marshall Secret ability- Bloodthirsty- any vigilantism will have a bonus 10%
Crazed Rabbit- Vincenzo Valerio Secret ability- Whacking day- natural vigilante talent (10%)
GamezRule- Pastor Richard Bird Secret ability- Bloodthirsty- any vigilantism will have a bonus 10%
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy Secret ability- Veteran of Violence- any vigilantism has better chance of success.

Bow-wow-wow- Beary
10% vigilante kill chance. (Bear claw, can be used to maul someone)

B_Ray- Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog
10% vigilante kill chance. (Killer Rabbit, has teeth the size of.... well, he can leap about.... just look at the bones!!!)

dcmort93- Arnold Grande
10% vigilante kill chance. (Golden Luger, can be used to sometimes perform a kill)

Death is Yonder- Darth Kojiro
10% vigilante kill chance. (Red lightsaber, can be used to attack someone)

Double A- Claire Raval
10% vigilante kill chance. (Custom Beretta)

Ironside- Kansas C. Smith
10% vigilante kill chance. (Silenced handgun)

Romanic- Lord of Annihilation
10% vigilante kill chance. (Demon Kobe rats, allows you to kill someone in a horrible, horrible manner.)

YLC- Hammer Brother
10% vigilante kill chance. (Red Shell)
Protective Guys: (DEFENDER EVIL)
El Barto- Head Knight who says Ni Secret ability- Defender- natural 10% chance of defenses.
YLC- Hammer Brother Secret ability- Green Shells- natural defender talent (10%)

Believer- Waylon Smithers Secret ability-
10% defender chance. (Revolver, can be used to shoot drunkenly at assassins)

Crazed Rabbit- Vincenzo Valerio
10% defender chance. (Brass knuckles, can be used to engage in a brawl)

Csargo- Porcupiney
10% defender chance. (Porcupine spines, can be used to stun an attacker)

GamezRule- Pastor Richard Bird
10% defender chance. (Prayer book, can invoke divine intervention)
Detective Guys: (INVESTIGATOR EVIL)
Believer- Waylon Smithers Security Cameras- any investigation has better chance of success.
Robbiecon- Askthepizzaguy Secret ability- Analysis- natural scanning talent (10%)
Warman- Zapp Brannigan Secret ability- Animal instincts- any investigation has better chance of success.

civplayah- Professor Farnsworth
10% investigatory chance. (Extra-thick glasses, can be used to see things that others cannot see)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny
10% investigatory chance. (Wolfen Fighter, piloted by Wolf O'Donnell. Can be used to scan others with its sensors)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Earthling- Black Knight who always Triumphs
10% investigatory chance. (Unladen swallow, can be trained to gather information, and coconuts.)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

B_Ray2- Squirrely
10% investigatory chance. (Rabbity the Rabbit, can distract someone with his cuteness)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin / Anju
10% investigatory chance. (Las Plagas Parasite, causes enhanced senses...)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM

TheFlax- Blitzen
10% investigatory chance. (Traitorous elf, can be used to snoop around)
FACTION SCANNING ITEM
Blocker Guys: (ROLEBLOCK EVIL)
Death is Yonder- Darth Kojiro Secret ability- Morichro- roleblock specialist (20%)
Bow-wow-wow- Beary Secret ability- Blood Orgy- natural 10% chance of roleblock
Fluffyone- Advice Dog Secret ability- Spam- able to spam someone into submission, roleblock 10%
Zack- Klingon Assassin Secret ability- Pain sticks- able to block someone more effectively 10%

El Barto- Head Knight who says Ni
10% roleblock chance. (The sacred words Ni, Peng, and Nee-wom. Can melt the brain of all those who are not ready to hear them)

Greyblades- The Snatcher
10% roleblock chance. (Parasite swarm, can severely impair someone's movements)

Skooma Addict- Fluffy Bunny
10% roleblock chance. (Cute little bunny, causes someone to awwwww instead of their intended action).

Subotan- Tony Valerio
10% roleblock chance. (Cement shoes, can be used to stop someone from acting)

Visorslash- Saddam Hussein
10% roleblock chance. (14 bottles of vegetable oil, can be used to keep someone "busy" all night)

Warman- Zapp Brannigan
10% roleblock chance. (Torn shirt, allows you to engage in an uneccessary and cheesy brawl with someone, possibly preventing them from taking any action)

Greedy Guys: (THIEF EVIL)
Link- Mr Burns Secret ability- Sticky fingers- steal has better chance of success.
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph Secret ability- Greedy- bonus to theft (10%)
B_Ray2- Squirrely Secret ability- Gathering- any steal has a better chance of success (10%)
shlin28- Boomerang Brother Secret ability- Ghost- natural stealing talent (10%)
TheFlax- Blitzen Secret ability- Greedy- bonus to theft (10%)
Secure Guys: (ANTI-THEFT EVIL)
Autolycus- Lore Secret ability- Encrypted- resistance to theft (20%)
landlubber- Salvatore Valerio Secret ability- Counterfeit money- any credits stolen from you will re-appear. (100%)
Mythmonster2- Pyramid Head Secret ability- Regeneration- any stolen credits will regenerate after one day/night cycle (100%)
Red_Spy- Alyssa Martin / Anju Secret ability- Regeneration- any stolen credits will regenerate after one day/night cycle (100%)
Romanic- Lord of Annihilation Secret ability- Regeneration- any stolen credits will regenerate after one day/night cycle (100%)
Transporter Guys: (BUS DRIVER EVIL)
Subotan- Tony Valerio Secret ability- Taxi ride- natural bus driver talent (20%)
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny Secret ability- Wormhole- natural bus driver talent (20%)

Autolycus- Lore
10% bus driver chance. (Mobile hologram emitter, can cause confused identities)

choxorn- Choir Director James Marshall
10% bus driver chance. (Actual bus. Yes, there was a bus in that story, so he's got a real bus.)

Fluffyone- Advice Dog
10% bus driver chance. (Advice Dog Meme, can be used to give bad advice to someone)
Immunity Guys: (Anti-block, Anti-scan)
Skooma Addict- Fluffy Bunny Secret ability- Undetectable- Scans, roleblocks, retaliations, defenses fail (75%)
B_Ray- Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog Secret ability- Unstoppable- natural 20% chance of anti-roleblock
Classical_hero- Black Beast of Arrrgghhhh Secret ability- Unstoppable- natural 20% chance of anti-roleblock

Revive Guys: (Resurrection power)
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth Secret ability- Cloning machine- any revive has better chance of success.
Csargo- Porcupiney Secret ability- Satanic ritual- any revive has better chance of success.

[Renata]

I have to admit I wanted the evil team to prevail. You chaotics were ... not nice to me, and losing outright as a partial consequence of that would have been sweet. :bow:

I'm sort of afraid to read your QT.

You sure did pick a dream team, though, ACIN. If you wanted ballsy play to go along with yours, you could hardly have picked a better bunch. Probably the only mistake at all in that regard was Diamondeye not going all in against me from the outset. He played it too coy, probably the only thing that saved me.

Congrats to all the winners, and thanks immensely to ATPG for this role. One of my favorites, ever, for a lot of reasons.

[Kagemusha]

Thanks for the game everyone and Congrats to Chaotics and Renata for pulling the victory! It was great to play town after a long streak of mafia characters and it was great to be revived, while i could not help enough to secure a town victory.

[Jolt]

Well done to ACIN and the Chaotics. It was fun to see Earthling being spot on as to who were the chaotics so many turns away from the end, but well his credibility was already none so its a pity nobody would listen to him.

Though I was surprised how the hell did town actually went ahead with lynching Earthling when we already knew he was evil.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thoughts on Basic Strategy in this game:


Bulletproof

One of the easiest to achieve, straightforward tactics in the game. Many people were naturally bulletproof, many people had bulletproof items, and self-defense actions were immediately available and relatively cheap at 50 credits for 50% chance of success.

Best idea:
Load bulletproof items onto people who were likely to be attacked, or folks who were already naturally bulletproof, or give these items to people who were massing credits. Bulletproof is a passive item or natural talent, and requires no credits or actions, so when someone is massing credits, they don't want to spend credits, but still want to have some kind of benefit going for them. Bulletproof is a good match for that. Those with lots of credits are likely to be attacked anyway, or stolen from.

Best combinations:
Bulletproof + retaliation (retaliation person survives while counterattacking)
Bulletproof + anti-Theft (Person massing credits is hard to steal from, and hard to destroy)

Counters:
Sephiroth, Kansas C. Smith, and Ganondorf all have OVERRIDE items, which can break through protection. A 100% OVERRIDE item is possible in this game, rendering bulletproof absolutely useless against such an ability.
The action can be roleblocked or bus driven away.

Defender

Definitely much harder to achieve, as this action has no immediate benefit to oneself, and it has all the same pitfalls that self-defense has. The action can be roleblocked or bus driven away. Fewer people had this ability naturally, and fewer people had items that could perform this action. However, there were a few who could naturally perform this action, and they could quietly protect anyone in the game at 10% effectiveness every night. If they protect someone, they would show up in the writeup projecting a magical shield around someone.... almost certainly a pro-town action which would lead people to conclude that not only were you not murdering, you were busy being a good townie. The benefits make this an obviously good idea.

Best idea:

Combine all Defender items in the game, and pass the item to someone anonymous, cross your fingers and hope they're evil. Have them protect whoever is likely to be attacked.

Best combinations:
Bulletproof + Defender (Defend people, and try not to die yourself)
Bus Driver + Defender (Not only defend someone, but switch out another target entirely to ensure that override doesn't hurt them either)

Counters:

Sephiroth, Kansas C. Smith, and Ganondorf all have OVERRIDE items, which
can break through protection. A 100% OVERRIDE item is possible in this
game, rendering bulletproof absolutely useless against such an ability.

The action can be roleblocked or bus driven away.

Retaliation

A rare natural talent, but very very useful in this game, as Serial Killers and Chaotics were likely to be killing every single night, and evil vigilantes were likely to be not of your faction. Score defensive kills and likely remove someone you don't want in the game anyway. This action cannot be purchased!

Best idea:

Combine all Retaliation items in the game, and pass them quietly to someone you think is going to be attacked, or someone who is already a natural retaliation person.

Best combinations:

Bulletproof + Retaliation (Obvious reasons)

Counters:

Sephiroth is IMMUNE to Retaliation.
This talent can be blocked, thus bypassing it.

Vigilantism

A very common talent, but quite useful in eliminating Chaotics, Neutrals, Serial Killers, Goody Two-Shoes-es, and Mafia Rivals. Items are also commonplace, and vigilante attempts are viable right from the start at 70 credits. A bit expensive, but when combined with items, it's powerful.

Best idea:

Combine a vigilante item with a natural vigilante, have them purchase a vigilante action, which succeeds..... steal some credits, then perform another. Soon you will be able to vigilante kill FOR FREE every night. Load a few vigilante items onto this person and eventually they will take out some Chaotics or other undesirables. Make sure this person is a member of your mafia faction for bonus points. This move is desirable when trying to eliminate Screwtape without wasting another lynch. It will also prove that someone is doing something that night with their action. Go for the Vigilante + Roleblock combo.

Best combinations:

Vigilante attack + Roleblock (Bypass Self-defense action, Bypass Retaliation)
Vigilante attack + Bus Drive (Gain the initiative against Bus Drive actions by bus driving first, then killing your target before someone else can bus drive them away.)

Counters:

Sephiroth is completely IMMUNE to Vigilantism.
King Dodongo is largely IMMUNE to Vigilantism.
This talent can be blocked, defended against, or bus driven away.


Investigation

A rare talent, but commonplace item and very inexpensive action (faction scan-wise). It is a simple matter to turn someone into a faction scanner, just purchase 3 faction scans at 25 credits apiece. You could also load up a bunch of faction scan/investigation items onto one person and have them perform free almost-always-effective detective scans, which reveal Faction, Claimed Role, and Activity (active or not), which is very useful information to gain FOR FREE. Someone should train up to be a natural investigator.

Best idea:
The faction scanner of a mafia faction should investigate with their item, and then purchase a faction scan, so they get 2 scans. locate as many allies as possible as fast as possible while training to be a free faction scanner. Once you can scan for free, do that and use the item for 2 free scans. Once all your allies and all your rivals are found, eliminate your rivals and win the game. Easiest victory ever?

Best combinations:
Faction Scan + Purchased Faction Scan on someone else (twice as many scans, train up to be a faction scanner)
Natural Scanning power + Several Items + Purchase scans (train up to be a full scanner)

Counters:
Sephiroth is completely IMMUNE to Detective Scans.

King Dodongo is resistant to scan.
Ganondorf is resistant to scan.
Crazed Rabbit is completely IMMUNE to Detective Scans.
This talent can be blocked, bus driven away, or fooled completely.


Roleblocking

Some folks were excellent natural roleblockers. Those with Morichro should have been given more roleblock items so they could roleblock players for free every night. Block an action was relatively cheap, and 2 successful roleblocks made you a natural 75% roleblocker. All it takes is 120 credits. Anybody could easily train up to be a natural roleblocker within just a few rounds of play!

Best idea:
Purchase a roleblock, Purchase a roleblock, then gain a couple roleblock items. Boom, free 95% roleblock action every single night.

Best combinations:
Vigilante + roleblock (Bypass defenses)
Roleblock + Defend (Remove someone from suspicion of being a certain murderer by blocking them that night. Then, defend them as well, so your non-suspect is still alive in the morning)

Counters:
Sephiroth is completely IMMUNE to roleblock
Reenkis Roinkis is completely IMMUNE to roleblock
This talent can be blocked or bus driven away.

Stealing

Many people were naturally good thieves, and although there was only one thief item in the game, being a credit hog or item thief was probably one of the most powerful actions in the game. You could drain the chaotic members of vital credits, or even find incriminating items in their possession, and none of them were immune to such an action!

Best idea:
Steal credits, steal credits, steal credits, all of a sudden you can steal credits at 80% without any other boosts.
Item steal is relatively cheap at 70 credits, if you're a natural thief, give this a try... 2 successful item steals turns you into a 75% item thief, plus your 10% bonus makes you an 85% thief.
Steal credits is a purchased action, steal items is a skill action at that point, do both to amass as many items and credits as possible, denying them to your mafia rivals, and even find incriminating evidence that someone is a Chaotic by stealing their Chaotic-Only items!

Best combinations:
Purchase Steal Credits + Skill-based item steal (Steal + Steal = More steal!)
Bulletproof + Steal (Don't die while you're stealing)
Bus Drive self + Steal (Deflect steals, blocks, murders on yourself, while stealing!)
Steal Credits from someone with REGENERATION (You get credits, they get those credits back.... you can both get rich! It's a money-making scheme!)

Counters:
Some people are resistant to steal, but all of the guilty parties are not.... :idea2:

Bus Driving

You couldn't purchase this action, so being naturally gifted at bus driving was something you wanted to know if you were or not. Some people had a natural 20% gift at bus driving. They needed to be given the bus driver items.

Best idea:
Bus Drive yourself to avoid being hit by Overdrive! Bus drive people you don't want to die, hope for the best.

Best combinations:
Bus Drive + Defend (Prove that you're too busy that night to be performing any murders, while protecting someone from murder!)
Bus Drive Self + Revive (can't hit me while I'm making more evil people return from the dead... :laugh4:)

Counters:
You can be roleblocked, but otherwise, this is one of the strongest tactics in the game. No one is immune to bus driver. You can be bus driver'd right back, though.

[Subotan]

In a game designed to be chaotic, I'm pleased that I was able to make my own small contribution.


“Well… I was thinkin’ of gettin’ our own ship, to be honest. We can afford a small one, but who needs size when ye have the bravest crew in existence? And besides, we’ll get Able Seamen of our own, especially when they find out the ship’s run by three of the Four Horsemen!” said AVSM.

“That sounds splendid!” said Subotan. “But which of us’ll be the Captain?”

“That’ll be me,” miotas interjected, “Seeing as how I have the most gold.”

The two others grumbled, then laughed good-naturedly. And so it was. In less than a week, the sloop a completely inoffensive name was christened, captained by miotas, with Subotan as First Mate and A Very Super Market as Quartermaster, with a willing crew ready to plunder to their hearts’ content.

Once a Horseman, always a Horseman.

[Zack]

According to the Chaotic QT, it was ACIN pretending to be Romanic - it was probably one of the most outrageous and daring moves attempted by a mafia player ever!

I can't seem to find the link to the Chaotic QT... am I missing something?

[Renata]

No -- Pizza didn't include it due to all the swearing. He says he'll give it if you PM him.

[Diamondeye]

Well done to ACIN and the Chaotics. It was fun to see Earthling being spot on as to who were the chaotics so many turns away from the end, but well his credibility was already none so its a pity nobody would listen to him.

Though I was surprised how the hell did town actually went ahead with lynching Earthling when we already knew he was evil.

I kind of pitied Earthling there, even though the walls-of-text were wearing down my nerves. It seemed like his text passed "critical mass" at some point and became pure gold. But everyone had stopped caring.


I can't seem to find the link to the Chaotic QT... am I missing something?

No -- Pizza didn't include it due to all the swearing. He says he'll give it if you PM him.

Yeah, ask and thou shalt receive. But there is a :daisy:load of swearing in there :tongue:

[Romanic]

Great ending. Only question I have is for Romanic - what the heck were those rants down Steam chat for? You turned up completely innocent and I bought everything you said.
:laugh4:

Someone claims he's Romanic over Steam and you believe him? Even when we've been speaking together through MSN in the past and never on Steam?

*slaps* Arpeg!!! :furious3: :grin:

[Earthling]

I had the most frustrating non-accomplishment of a personal goal ever. All that had to happen was for me not to get lynched there.

Turns out Roman's betraying the town antics did cost us the game, so many folks murdered and lynched just for their personal victories, which isn't too happy given the fake ending and all, though Sephiroth being immune to pretty much everything is still pretty insane, didn't have enough left to survive that contigency.

edit - the credit regenerating people is a huge surprise. I was wondering the whole time why the Chaotics weren't stealing more, would have led to a quicker victory given all the town's failings, but there was something in place that significantly benefitted the town if that were to happen. Could have been insanely useful for townies to steal from their fellow townies as well, too bad we never found any of that out as most of those guys were inactive.

[Romanic]

If by betraying town antics, you mean switching my vote to you from acin, even though I felt acin was the best candidate, I've already explained how I felt about that.

I'm being honest. acin is suspect #1 and Arpeg is #2, but as I said, I already won, unlike other players, so I don't feel it's right for me to dictate the lynch when most of the other players want to lynch you. They're trying to win, I'll let them control their destiny. What I'm certainly not gonna do is act selfishly to prove that I'm right and possibly screw their victory when there's nothing in the balance for me. Should be easy to understand.

Now drop it.

[Earthling]

No, you purposefully killed Subotan and Greyblades when we knew they were Innocents and had night actions and credits accounted for at that point, just for your own goals. You even admit it in your quicktopic. It's not that it's a bad play by you as it helped your own goals (though imo Renata's faction should have had auto-survival and couldn't be eliminated, but that decision was made long ago and wouldn't be taken back) but you knew you were hurting the town's chances of victory. Way, way too many townies were vig-killed and all, but even with some of the calls by, say, Beefy that we didn't all agree on at least actual suspects were being targeted. You killed off other townies for your own goals only and it did cost us in the end as we didn't have enough townies alive (not to mention only reviving your faction members which you knew could easily cost the town victory).

[God Emperor]

Naturally a gratulation to ACIN :bow:

[Romanic]

No, you purposefully killed Subotan and Greyblades when we knew they were Innocents and had night actions and credits accounted for at that point, just for your own goals. You even admit it in your quicktopic. It's not that it's a bad play by you as it helped your own goals (though imo Renata's faction should have had auto-survival and couldn't be eliminated, but that decision was made long ago and wouldn't be taken back) but you knew you were hurting the town's chances of victory.

Subotan was hit by a 10% vig attempt that I didn't expect to work. he was inactive for a while, and also the remaining Cosa Nostra, our faction enemy. Things would have been different if he was active.

As for lynching Greyblades, it's not true that "we knew he was innocent". I didn't want to lynch Greyblades on that day, but Kage convinced me to (I was going for Beefy, still a bad choice). Sure I was glad to get rid of the last Space Mafia, but if it had been my choice, it wouldn't have happened at that time. I'm saying this in the QT


Bah, Kage is insisting that we cannot kill Beefy because he's our vigilante. He wants to lynch Greyblades instead :P

I told him the truth: That I won't be hard to convince since lynching Greyblades lands me a win, and one also for BL. Not sure about you shlin, since you may not have completed your PG, but I will still try to revive you tomorrow so don't despair.
And I could show you the PMs of Kage about lynching Greyblades, but whatever. This is just to point that we weren't purposely killing and lynching to fulfill our own goals.

Sure we were somwhat chasing points to ensure ourselves a win, it's a collateral effect to Renata's win, making the Team victory not enough to win in itself, but we were not really putting our own goals (PG or faction) before the Team goal. Players are expected to play to win, and in this case we had to look for our other goals because of the setup. We were still working more toward the Team win than anything else, and the QT doesn't reflect everything as BL and I had long chats about the game. We could have secured our personal wins much quicker, by vigging Greyblades and Subotan (with real odds, not the lucky 10% I rolled on Subotan), but we didn't.

My conscience is clear about this game. I revived four Evil players and I actively contributed to find the chaotics with shlin, Kage and BL. I didn't betray my team, so don't try to paint me as a backstabber please.

[a completely inoffensive name]

:laugh4:

Someone claims he's Romanic over Steam and you believe him? Even when we've been speaking together through MSN in the past and never on Steam?

*slaps* Arpeg!!! :furious3: :grin:

lol, I wonder if the tactic would have worked on you....

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am off to work yet again, so if peeps want the QT link, perhaps some of our esteemed chaotic peoples would be able to give folks the link while I'm away.

[Diamondeye]

I am off to work yet again, so if peeps want the QT link, perhaps some of our esteemed chaotic peoples would be able to give folks the link while I'm away.

Of course :bow: Already gave Renata it.

[Greyblades]

Sure we were somwhat chasing points to ensure ourselves a win, it's a collateral effect to Renata's win, making the Team victory not enough to win in itself, but we were not really putting our own goals (PG or faction) before the Team goal. Players are expected to play to win, and in this case we had to look for our other goals because of the setup. We were still working more toward the Team win than anything else, and the QT doesn't reflect everything as BL and I had long chats about the game. We could have secured our personal wins much quicker, by vigging Greyblades and Subotan (with real odds, not the lucky 10% I rolled on Subotan), but we didn't.

My conscience is clear about this game. I revived four Evil players and I actively contributed to find the chaotics with shlin, Kage and BL. I didn't betray my team, so don't try to paint me as a backstabber please.

You shouldn't have been trying to kill me to begin with and earthlings lynch was just plain and utterly dumb. I have nothing more to say.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

:laugh4:

Someone claims he's Romanic over Steam and you believe him? Even when we've been speaking together through MSN in the past and never on Steam?

*slaps* Arpeg!!! :furious3: :grin:

In mitigation Subo did encourage me to 'add romanic' (i think, maybe he didn't mention romanic by name), and i was slightly busy writing a cv at the time so my suspicions were left in a dark corner of my mind. How was i to know i'd be meddled with in such a way?

[Chaotix]

Awesome game ATPG, had a load of fun with it.

Our mafia team truly was assembled from among the best and brightest, with ACIN as the brilliant centerpiece.

ACIN had a great strategy and we rolled with it the whole time. He deserves major props for all the effort he put in.

Also good job to Renata. If you check the quicktopic, I believe we discussed killing you nightly but never quite got around to it until it was too late. Kinda the same with Romanic (who proved a formidable enemy), but that time we managed to luck our way out of it.

[Choxorn]

Well done to ACIN and the Chaotics. It was fun to see Earthling being spot on as to who were the chaotics so many turns away from the end, but well his credibility was already none so its a pity nobody would listen to him.

Though I was surprised how the hell did town actually went ahead with lynching Earthling when we already knew he was evil.

It's the strange thing about Earthling: He's always right about who the scum are, once he's exhausted every other possibility.

But yeah, you shouldn't have lynched him. The same thing happened in the LOTR Mafia over at CFC towards the end, in which he annoyed people for basically the entire game and eventually got lynched for it. In all fairness, we also lost that because the Isengard mafia leader, Saruman was so amazingly good at hiding that almost nobody supected he was Saruman until the end of the game, and because of general random luck and unintentional host bias, but still.

[Renata]

Awesome game ATPG, had a load of fun with it.

Our mafia team truly was assembled from among the best and brightest, with ACIN as the brilliant centerpiece.

ACIN had a great strategy and we rolled with it the whole time. He deserves major props for all the effort he put in.

He does indeed. I just kinda want to give him a wedgie or something. :)


Also good job to Renata. If you check the quicktopic, I believe we discussed killing you nightly

I think you did, quite literally. :laugh4: I do appreciate that you felt bad about the prospect. :curtain:


but never quite got around to it until it was too late. Kinda the same with Romanic (who proved a formidable enemy), but that time we managed to luck our way out of it.

All those failed attacks against Romanic were a thing to behold.

[naut]

The one time ACIN is scum y'all give him a free ride. Well played sir.

I'm not going to lie, I didn't enjoy the set-up of this game, and it showed in my play style = kill regardless, I felt the balance was a little off. :shrug:

[thefluffyone93]

I have conflicting emotions......

First....
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/congrats.jpg

To ATPG for a great game, as well as the Chaotic team for being such good players.

of course, I'm also
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/Intense-Rage-Guy.jpg
because we lost....
AND because Renata stole my item!



EDIT
OI! When did I pass 1000 posts?!?

[Askthepizzaguy]

The one time ACIN is scum y'all give him a free ride. Well played sir.

About that:


BTW, ACIN, I was reading over the Star Wars commentary, and there are several lines that made me crack up. There's one part where ATPG says something along the lines of "ACIN is impossible to read, if he gets to be mafia in a game he will make it all the way to the end".

And then in the thread you say "One day, I will be the mafia and finally have my lulz". Hilarious that it happens to be the next ATPG Huge Game that you get the role. And the big one at that.


It's called foreshadowing...


Oh yeah, what a coincidence that was.

At the time, ACIN had zero games as mafia under his belt. Then he was mafia for a whole half a day and he ends up dead (by my hands, iirc). I wanted to see what he would do if he actually got a scum role, because people seem to ignore ACIN as a threat.

It's like pevergreen; he hadn't been scum in a while and I said if he was ever scum, he'd be able to make it almost all the way through a game untouched. A couple months later, it's the Council of Villains game where he ends up being the last scum standing and finally gets taken down after umpteen rounds.

Some people would be really really dangerous as mafia because y'all ignore them and write off their odd behavior as them being their usual odd selves.



I'm not going to lie, I didn't enjoy the set-up of this game, and it showed in my play style = kill regardless, I felt the balance was a little off. :shrug:

I would be delighted to talk balance with peeps, and find out what people liked and didn't like about the game. I noticed several players didn't seem to enjoy themselves. I feel the concept is worthy, perhaps the execution not so much. If I do another one like this, I want to eliminate the less fun aspects.

Unfortunately I am really busy atm, I will have to put this off for a day or two.

But I am sad to see some people not enjoying the game. Complex games aren't everyone's cup of tea. Balance, though; I thought it was very well balanced, given how every single mafia team survived a long, long time, and the game came down to what was basically a draw decided by dice rolls. I would like to hear where the balancing issues were.

[Zack]

Can someone give me the link to the scum QT?

[Beefy187]

Bad performance by me as a town. I owe some people apologies for killing them.
But I have to admit, I rather enjoyed killing people

Congratulations Renata and Chaotics. Well played:bow:

[Choxorn]

I wish you'd found me at some point- I could have used that chainsaw to complete my PG and hack everyone to pieces not kill people randomly.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Wow, what a game.

Congrats Renata and the Chaotics.

WWBAGNFARB

CR

[Romanic]

lol, I wonder if the tactic would have worked on you....
I doubt it very much. :smug2:


[...]
Also good job to Renata. If you check the quicktopic, I believe we discussed killing you nightly but never quite got around to it until it was too late. Kinda the same with Romanic (who proved a formidable enemy), but that time we managed to luck our way out of it.
Yeah, yeah... Congrats to you also, formidable opponents, all of you chaotics, but hey, even if ATPG hasn't confirmed it yet, I'm also a winner, for completing my PG and FG. I'm a winner with you, I was *not* defeated so let's hug and dance all together, with Renata and BL. ~:grouphug:

:laugh4:

[Ironside]

Congratulations and well played ACIN, :applause: and the rest of the Chaotic team, even if I'm unsure of how many of you who did actually win.

Looks like I had you pinned as a suspect at the point of my death already, although I didn't write it out properly. Three people would find busdriving unusually good at that point. The killer, the busdriver and the one protected.

It evens out on my successful 6% survival chance on the first round I suppose.

qt link please. That one is going to be interesting.

And time for a proper congratulation to Renata as well, my brooding for that is over. :applause:

Edit: Link given. Thank you ATPG.

Second Edit: What, I survived 2 attacks on a 10% chance of survival? Did you forget to mention that second attack ATPG? Didn't get a pm about it.

[Diamondeye]

Sent Zack and Ironside the QT Link.

[Death is yonder]

Well congratulations to the mafia team for their hard fought nail biting victory, and also to Renata for her sneaky yet fantastic victory that came out of nowhere :bow:

And to Romanic/BL/Kage and everyone else who almost pulled it off.

A wonderful game to read and think about, even though I died without doing too much.

And thanks to ATPG for hosting the game, it can't be perfect, but pretty darned good is all that's enough for me :bow:

Edit: Oh, QT link please :smile:

[Captain Blackadder]

Qt link thank you.

[autolycus]

What were the credit counts for those alive on the final night? I'm curious just how many random numbers would have had to break the other way for evil to win. Also, for this game, as a credit game, could evil win one-on-one if it was day and evil was richer?
Edit: And I'll take a QT link as well.
Edit Round 2: Just out of curiosity, who vigged me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

ACIN had 9 credits going into the evening, for a possible 19 afterward. If there were 2 players besides him remaining, they would have needed 19 credits to defeat him, which they easily could have scraped together. Romanic alone had 19.

ACIN 9
versus 162
Romanic 19
ArpeggiateTHIS2 57
Backwards Logic 86


Here's what should have happened:

1) Backwards Logic should have realized that Beefy's vigilantism + override (both of which shown in his writeup) were ineffective against ACIN. In fact during the night, he asked me a question about the vigilantism and the override and I stated this:


If someone could survive 100% chance of death, then additional percentage won't matter.

At that point, they're either protected or immune. The only way to beat protection is through Override, which you have (60%) through the Triforce.

I mentioned that there was a chance people were immune from vigilantism, and mentioned that override beats protection, but I didn't say it beats immunity. Then if you look you see that Beefy attacked ACIN with his normal attack, and then it turned into the Triforce-based attack when that failed, and it still failed to function, and ACIN counterattacked and defeated him. In an ordinary game his moves made sense, here there was some dark foreshadowing that his attempt on ACIN's life was doomed before he even tried it. So the first thing that should have happened is BL shouldn't have attacked ACIN, a bit counterintuitive but there it is.

But it wasn't all on BL's shoulder, in fact, given the other events of the evening, it made no difference what he did. So other things needed to change as well.


2) Romanic's bus driver should have worked (a better roll would have helped there) but he should have switched himself with Seon as he originally intended. If he had done that, ACIN's override attack would have been bus driven onto Seon, killing Seon (with finality, he'd be dead dead dead) and sparing an evil's life. That would have reduced the number of deaths to 1, for the victory.

OR

3) Arpeg's self-defense should have worked (Better roll)

OR

4) Romanic's revive should have worked (Better roll)



Any two of those would have given a victory. Unfotunately, all 4 didn't go the way you guys would have wanted. In truth, if the evil team had done everything right, the odds of their success were greater than that of ACIN's, due to the number of rolls he needed to go his way, when a single mistake would have cost him the victory, or a single revive would have. Basically, ACIN was in a slightly disadvantageous position, but random.org smiled on the chaotic one.

As I mention in the QT, it would not have ever been up to the dice at all if in fact ACIN had been lynched the round prior, when Earthling was lynched. Or any of the 12 rounds before that, and he came close early on. This game was very winnable without any successful dice rolls at all, they only come into play when the game is soooo close that it requires what amounts to a tie-breaker.

ACIN threatened to drop out of the game or whatever, but he did not, and he did so under pressure. While people do become hot-headed at times, or have RL issues, you should be skeptical of people's claims that they'll leave the game or be unable to play, especially when they make such claims under pressure. You guys had him sweating bullets and near death, but like a slippery greased-up inoffensive name, he got away.

I realize how crushingly disappointing the ending was for people; all I can say is that after a run of extraordinary luck, one chaotic dead after another, you had several shots to lynch ACIN and they all failed until it was basically too late. It happens.




There will be some more endgame stuff today and I'll do the scoring. I have a day off, but first I have a meeting with my boss about a raise and a promotion, which I've very much earned.

[Diamondeye]

Sent out the QT to people asking for it :beam:

[Askthepizzaguy]

SCORING:



Team Victory:

TEAM VICTORY (1st Place)
-Renata- 5 points

TEAM VICTORY (2nd Place)
-ACIN- 3 points
-Diamondeye- 3 points
-God Emperor- 3 points
-Chaotix- 3 points
-Seon- 3 points


__________________________________


Faction Goals:


Faction Rankings

Evil Mafia-
Last one standing, outlasted all rivals (Space and Cosa Nostra)
Python Mafia-
Survived until the very end, outlasting all rivals (Dark Falls and Bizarro)
Psychotic Mafia
Outlasted the Cosa Nostra, but did not outlast the Evil Mafia.
Springfield Mafia
Outlasted the South Park Mafia, but did not outlast the Python Mafia.
South Park Mafia
Outlasted the Dark Falls Mafia, but did not outlast the Springfield Mafia.
Space Mafia
Did not outlast the Psychotic or the Evil Mafia.
Bizarro Mafia / Cosa Nostra
Bizarro did not outlast the Space or Python Mafia.
Cosa Nostra did not outlast the Springfield or South Park Mafia.
Dark Falls Mafia
Did not outlast anyone, first elimination.

Springfield Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the South Park Mafia and the Python Mafia
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

Dark Falls Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Psychotic Mafia and the Bizarro Mafia
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

South Park Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Springfield Mafia and the Dark Falls Mafia
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

Python Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Dark Falls Mafia and the Bizarro Mafia- COMPLETED
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

Psycho Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Evil Mafia and the Cosa Nostra
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

Space Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Evil Mafia and the Psychotic Mafia
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

Bizarro Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Space Mafia and the Python Mafia
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing

Evil Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Space Mafia and the Cosa Nostra- COMPLETED
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing- usurped by Chaotic Team victory with no Evil Team remaining.

Cosa Nostra Mafia-
Faction Goals: Outlast the Springfield Mafia and the South Park Mafia
Total Victory: Be the last faction standing


Faction Goals Completed:

-B_Ray- 3 points
-Earthling- 3 points
-Classical_Hero- 3 points
-ArpeggiateTHIS2- 3 points
-ACIN- 3 points
-Romanic- 3 points
-Diana Abnoba- 3 points
-Backwards Logic- 3 points
-YLC- 3 points
-shlin28- 3 points




__________________________________




Survival:

-ACIN- 1 point
-Renata- 1 point




__________________________________




Personal Goals:


MONTY BURNS
Goal: Successfully withstand one night attack that would have otherwise been successful, if not for your self-defense.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

WAYLON SMITHERS
Goal: Successfully defend two individuals that would have died without your protection, or successfully defend Mister Burns at least once.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

FARNSWORTH
Goal: Successfully identify all remaining members of your mafia team through faction scan, or, identify all remaining mafia factions by scanning one member each.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

ZAPP BRANNIGAN
Goal: Successfully roleblock an anti-mafioso. (You will not be informed that you have succeeded until the game is over.)
FAILURE
Condition not met.

ITCHY AND SCRATCHY
Goal: Successfully perform a retaliatory kill. Vengeance must be yours!
FAILURE
Condition not met.

SERIAL KILLER- SIDESHOW BOB
Goal: Kill at least one member from every single mafia faction remaining, and one anti-mafioso. If a faction is destroyed before you can defeat them personally, but you outlast them, this counts as well.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

COLMILLO
Goal: Successfully perform a vigilante kill against an anti-mafioso, or one member of each of the two rival mafia factions outlined in your faction goals section.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

BRANAGH/SCREWTAPE
Goal: Perform a successful conversion.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

EL GIGANTE
Goal: Successfully perform three vigilante kills against members not of your faction, or successfully kill someone in retaliation, not of your faction.
POINT AWARDED
Although Branagh was a member of the Dark Falls Mafia Faction, he was technically also a member of the Chaotic faction. I'll be nice.

CLAIRE RAVAL
Goal: Outlive Alfred Branagh
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Condition not met.

ALYSSA MARTIN
Goal: Locate the Groom Creature using a scanning item, then give him the scanning item.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

BEARY THE BEAR:
Goal: Kill any member of the Bizarro Mafia.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

PORCUPINEY THE PORCUPINE
Goal: Learn how to use "defend other".
FAILURE
Condition not met.

SQUIRRELY THE SQUIRREL
Goal: Locate all living members of the South Park Mafia faction using your faction scanner.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

MANBEARPIG
Goal: Successfully kill three others.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Condition met.
PLEASE NOTE: Role PM read an obviously incorrect faction goal which was copy/pasted in error.
"Locate all living members of the South Park Mafia faction using your faction scanner."
This goal was incorrect, the original goal (As Johnhughthom can testify) was to kill 3 people.
I would have awarded the point regardless due to the mistake, but Psychonaut met the condition as well.

SATAN/DODONGO
Goal: Locate Anju using the Pendant of Memories, then give her the item.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

SADDAM HUSSEIN
Goal: Learn how to use the ability "roleblock"
FAILURE
Condition not met.

KILLER RABBIT
Goal: Learn how to use the ability "vigilante kill"
FAILURE
Condition not met.

THE BLACK KNIGHT
Goal: Die in GLORIOUS battle, or survive the entire game.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

LEGENDARY BLACK BEAST OF ARGH
Goal: All living members of the Monty Python Mafia are reunited.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Black Knight and Knight who Says Ni found each other by faction scan and were the remaining living members of Python Faction.

KNIGHT WHO SAYS NI
Goal: You must use the sacred words to melt someone's brain three times. (perform three successful roleblocks using your item)
FAILURE
Condition not met.

PSYCHO ANDY- NEUTRAL/SURVIVOR
Goal: Locate an anti-mafioso using your special power, and get them to perform two kills of your choosing, and make sure you are never slain by the anti-mafia.
FAILURE
All conditions not met.

PYRAMID HEAD
Goal: Kill at least two with your Giant Psychotic Sword of Doom.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

RICHARD BIRD
Goal: Successfully defend someone using your prayer book, or gain the chainsaw from someone else and successfully retaliate against an attack using the chainsaw.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Defense was successful, but it was overridden.

JOSH TIMMAN
Goal: Successfully retaliate against an attack using your chainsaw.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

JAMES MARSHALL
Goal: Successfully perform three bus driving actions, or gain the chainsaw from someone else and successfully retaliate against an attack using the chainsaw.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

YEQON LUCIFUGE CAACRINOLAAS/REENK ROINK
Goal: Revive twice during the game, or be the last anti-mafia standing.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

MACE WINDU- TOWNIE
Goal: Successfully steal at least 7 items.
FAILURE
There were not 7 successful steal attempts.

KLINGON ASSASSIN
Goal: Successfully kill a member of the Evil Mafia or Psychotic Mafia, with your Batleth, and then die in glorious battle, not by the lynch.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

THE SNATCHER
Goal: Reach a point where the parasite swarm has been used (successfully or unsuccessfully) on every single remaining player besides yourself, infecting them all with SNATCHER PARASITES.
If you can do this, you have achieved your primary objective.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

ANDROID LORE
Goal: Gain the SkyNet Analysis Database, either through stealing it, being handed the item, or being voted the item upon its owner's death. If you do this, you will become a true investigator.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

DARTH KOJIRO
Goal: Successfully learn how to perform vigilante killings without the use of items.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

BANE ANDED
Goal: Successfully learn how to perform two other abilities besides your natural vigilantism. (Learn to use the dark and light sides of the Force)
FAILURE
Condition not met.

BLITZEN
Goal: Locate all members of the Bizarro Mafia, or all members of the Python Mafia.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

RUDOLPH
Goal: Learn how to perform "steal item"
FAILURE
Condition not met.

ADVICE DOG
Goal: Use a Meme in one of your posts, during every day phase of the game, even past your own death. You must additionally perform a successful bus driving action
FAILURE
No successful bus drive.

FLUFFY BUNNY
Goal: Outlive all Rabbits, or personally roleblock a Rabbit.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Outlived Crazed Rabbit and Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

JERRY SEINFELD
Goal: Wear the Puffy Shirt for the rest of your life. (Never give away or have the puffy shirt stolen from you)
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Died immediately, so condition fulfilled!

LORD OF ANNIHILATION
Goal: Kill someone using only the Demon Kobe rats, and no other items.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Condition met.

GOD OF DESTRUCTION/SEPHIROTH
Goal: Be the last anti-mafioso left standing, or slay at least one member of every mafia faction before you die.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Condition met.

ANDROSS OIKONNY
Goal: Locate a member of every opposing mafia faction via scan.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

HAMMER BROS
Goal: Successfully kill someone using the Red Shell only.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

FIRE BROS
Goal: Successfully use the Fireball against someone.
SUCCESS, POINT AWARDED
Condition met.

BOOMERANG BROS
Goal: Combine the Starman with at least two other bulletproof items.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

ASKTHEPIZZAGUY
Goal: Be converted by another faction, or survive at least one night attack.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

WHITE_EYES/CRAZED RABBIT
Goal: Personally rack up the most kills by a single individual in the game.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

KANSAS C SMITH
Goal: Learn how to "vigilante" someone and also kill through protection at least once, using the Tyrant.
FAILURE

TONY VALERIO
Goal: Combine cement shoes with two other roleblock items, and roleblock successfully.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

VINNIE VALERIO
Goal: Learn how to "steal items", and then do it successfully.
FAILURE
Condition not met.

SAL VALERIO
Goal: Have at least 200 credits in your possession at any point in the game, so you can retire a rich man.
FAILURE
Condition not met.



Personal Goals Completed:

-Double A- 1 point
-ByzantineKnight- 1 point
-Psychonaut- 1 point
-Classical_Hero- 1 point
-Winston Hughes- 1 point
-Skooma Addict- 1 point
-Captain Blackadder- 1 point
-Romanic- 1 point
-A completely inoffensive name- 1 point
-Backwards Logic- 1 point



____________________________

TEAM VICTORY (1st Place)

-Renata- 5 points

TEAM VICTORY (2nd Place)

-ACIN- 3 points
-Diamondeye- 3 points
-God Emperor- 3 points
-Chaotix- 3 points
-Seon- 3 points

Faction Goals Completed:

-B_Ray- 3 points
-Earthling- 3 points
-Classical_Hero- 3 points
-ArpeggiateTHIS2- 3 points
-ACIN- 3 points
-Romanic- 3 points
-Diana Abnoba- 3 points
-Backwards Logic- 3 points
-YLC- 3 points
-shlin28- 3 points

Survival:

-ACIN- 1 point
-Renata- 1 point

Personal Goals Completed:

-Double A- 1 point
-ByzantineKnight- 1 point
-Psychonaut- 1 point
-Classical_Hero- 1 point
-Winston Hughes- 1 point
-Skooma Addict- 1 point
-Captain Blackadder- 1 point
-Romanic- 1 point
-A completely inoffensive name- 1 point
-Backwards Logic- 1 point






FINAL STANDINGS




ACIN: 8 points (Grand Champion)
Sephiroth

Renata: 6 points (Champion)
Mace Windu

Romanic: 4 points (Winner)
Lord of Annihilation

Backwards Logic: 4 points (Winner)
Fire Brother

Classical_Hero: 4 points (Winner)
Legendary Black Beast of Arrgghh

Diamondeye: 3 points (Runner-up)
God Emperor: 3 points (Runner-up)
Chaotix: 3 points (Runner-up)
Seon: 3 points (Runner-up)

B_Ray: 3 points (Runner-up)
Earthling: 3 points (Runner-up)
ArpeggiateTHIS2: 3 points (Runner-up)
Diana Abnoba: 3 points (Runner-up)
YLC: 3 points (Runner-up)
shlin28: 3 points (Runner-up)

Double A: 1 point (Honorable Mention)
ByzantineKnight: 1 point (Honorable Mention)
Psychonaut: 1 point (Honorable Mention)
Winston Hughes: 1 point (Honorable Mention)
Skooma Addict: 1 point (Honorable Mention)
Captain Blackadder: 1 point (Honorable Mention)



Decisive [Good] Victory
Marginal [Chaotic] Victory
-
Marginal [Evil] Defeat
Decisive [Serial Killer] Defeat
Decisive [Neutral] Defeat





For Gameroom Statistics purposes, please include the Chaotic team members with 3 points as being victorious with a 2nd place Team victory, as well as everyone with 4 or more points.

Don't take these scores too seriously. The scoring system probably needs an overhaul as well.

Spot an error? Wouldn't surprise me. Contact me.

[Backwards Logic]

I vaguely remember a conversation a while back where I asked if being bulletproof could negate retaliation. You said something along the lines of 'it's complicated, but yea.' So, was that possibility ever rolled?

[seireikhaan]

Well, congratulations to the victor. Quite a hard fought game.

[classical_hero]

Equal third despite being out of the game for so long. This was an extraordinarily complex game. What did the cards mean? Also i would like the Chaotix QT, to see why I was attacked so early.

[Diamondeye]

Equal third despite being out of the game for so long. This was an extraordinarily complex game. What did the cards mean? Also i would like the Chaotix QT, to see why I was attacked so early.

Sent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hi everyone.

Sorry once again for my absence, my roommate has yet again allowed the internet to go off without telling me about the situation.

I am getting seriously tired of this. I have a work shift but if the internet is still ON when I get back, we can pick up where I left off.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I vaguely remember a conversation a while back where I asked if being bulletproof could negate retaliation. You said something along the lines of 'it's complicated, but yea.' So, was that possibility ever rolled?

I looked and looked through my IM logs and PMs, and I couldn't find it. I do know that during the design phase of the game, some ideas were phased out completely. However, it should be noted, during the entire game, bulletproof has never been a factor during retaliation; retaliation always bypasses bulletproof. So you weren't treated any differently.

Also, had you 'survived' that night you'd have still died due to ACIN meeting your numbers or outnumbering you in the lynch phase, as a standard mafia game allows. So the only thing affecting victory was the rolls for Arpeg's self-defense and Romanic's revive. Not even in your hands, my friend.

[classical_hero]

It is going to be interesting seeing the night actions for this one.

[Earthling]

As far as I'm concerned the best little touch I saw was when I sent in an order to do nothing on purpose and got back "SUCCESS" appended to it, that was funny.

And it turns out Jolt's behavior is a little more forgivable, I forgot Hanlon's Razor, as in the end it seems he didn't send in orders to attack me, he attacked MRD and just never realized he got busdrivered.

I really wish I'd been allowed to revive you though. However I'll ultimately still blame it on Takhisis, who was "too busy" to be an Innocent in this game while he was a scum in another one, such wasted potential as we would have been a great team.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Should have realized that Screwtape was killing from beyond.

Also, QT link please!

Congrats to the victors, and thanks again to ATPG for a very in depth game.

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

Should have realized that Screwtape was killing from beyond.

Also, QT link please!

Congrats to the victors, and thanks again to ATPG for a very in depth game.

CR

I honestly thought you did realize that at one point later in the game, where you mentioned a description of the spiked mace kills matched another previous game, and I thought you were referring to the Shadow Fort.

Or am I misreading you now, and you mean to say they should have known?

Either way, when Screwtape died, and a picture was shown, and a black wings, fangs, and medieval weaponry killer attacked basically every night, I thought it became increasingly obvious to folks who played in the Shadow Fort that it was a repeat of another game; a theme common to this game. Several folks had things that related to their actions or abilities in previous games.

I will admit that killing from beyond the grave, I've only ever seen in the Shadow Fort. But, a careful reading of rule number 13 shows that the actions of the dead aren't necessarily limited to doing nothing; it simply mentions they can't wager and can't talk about certain things.

Yeah yeah pizza, bury oddness in your monster-sized rulebook and wonder why people don't notice it. Of course they won't, that's the whole point.

[Diamondeye]

Should have realized that Screwtape was killing from beyond.

Also, QT link please!

Congrats to the victors, and thanks again to ATPG for a very in depth game.

CR

Sent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Endgame Commentary Part One- The Songs



The Songs usually did not match the youtube-linked song that played that evening.



Furthermore, the songs were laid out in front of the writeup in the exact same manner, font, and style as the songs and poems that came before each writeup in Capo di Tutti Capo III, which vaguely expressed Seamus' perspective on the game.



The Songs were clues which incriminated all 5 members of the Chaotic team. However, Seon died really early, and some others only got a mention or two before they were eliminated. The clue songs then focused on Sephiroth.


PROLOGUE-
No stop signs
Speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel
Gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me around
Hey Satan
Payin' my dues
Playin' in a rockin' band
Hey momma
Look at me
I'm on the way to the promised land
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Don't stop me

I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
(highway to hell) I'm on the highway to hell
(highway to hell) highway to hell
(highway to hell) highway to hell
(highway to hell)
And I'm goin' down
All the way
I'm on the highway to hell

-- AC/DC


Satan = Chaotix' cover role.
NIGHT ONE
Define your meaning of war
To me it's what we do when we're bored
I feel the heat coming off of the blacktop
And it makes me want it more
Because I'm hyped up, outta control
If it's a fight I'm ready to go
I wouldn't put my money on the other guy
If you know what I know that I know

It's been a long time coming
And the tables' turned around
Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
I'm not running, it's a little different now
Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down


-- Sick Puppies


Seon died that night. "one of us is going down". I felt they deserved a break after that loss, so no hint there other than the obvious.
NIGHT TWO
She lays down on the sidewalk
Never very analytical
She is something simply beautiful
Re-appear when you feel magical
To back in the days when we were young
When everything was like a loaded gun
Ready to go off at any minute
Yeah you know we're gonna win again

Maybe I'm the one
Maybe I'm the one
who is the schizophrenic psycho
Maybe I'm the one
Maybe I'm the one
who is the paranoid Flake-oh


-- Puddle of Mudd


God of Destruction (Sephiroth) = Psycho Mafia II (game of origin)
YLC (Reenkis Roinkis) = Psychotic Mafia faction (Faction containing a Chaotic)
NIGHT THREE
Dragged you down below
Down to the Devil's show
To be his guest forever
Peace of mind is less than never
Hate to twist your mind
but God ain't on your side
An old acquaintance severed
Render of your last endeavor

Ashes burning, you can smell it in the air
Cause men like you have such an easy soul to steal
So stand in line while banging numbers in your head
You're now a slave until the end of time
And nothing stops the madness turning
haunting, yearning, pull the trigger!

You should have known
The price of evil
And it hurts to know that you belong here


-- Avenged Sevenfold


Devil = Satan = Chaotix's cover role
God ain't on your side = God Emperor (org handle)
God ain't on your side = God of Destruction = Sephiroth's cover role
The price of Evil = Evil Mafia Faction = Sephiroth's faction
NIGHT FOUR
Hey, why won't you listen?
Can't help the people you're missing
It's been done, a casualty re-run
Welcome to the family
I try and help you with the things that can't be justified
I need to warn you that there is no way to rationalize
So have you figured it out now?
So have you figured it out?
You can't win this fight

And in a way it seems there's no one to call
When our thoughts are so numb and our feelings unsure
We all have emptiness inside
We all have answers to find
But you can't win this fight
Gunning for you and all mankind
I've lost my mind
Psychotic rabid dementia
I won't be fine

I see you're a king who's been dethroned
Cast out in a world you've never known
Stand down, place your weapons by your side
It's our war, in the end we'll surely lose but that's alright
So have you figured it out now?
So have you figured it out?
And in a way it seems there's no one to call
When our thoughts are so numb and our feelings unsure
We all have emptiness inside
We all have answers to find
But you can't win this fight

Deep inside where nothing's fine
I've lost my mind
You're not invited, so step aside
I've lost my mind


-- Avenged Sevenfold

The Family = Cosa Nostra = CRAZED RABBIT's faction
Psychotic = Psychotic Mafia = REENKIS ROINKIS' faction
Psychotic = Psycho Mafia II = God of Destruction (Seph's cover role)
NIGHT FIVE
Wish I may
Wish I might
Have this I wish tonight
Are you satisfied?
Dig for gold
Dig for fame
You dig to make your name
Are you pacified?

All the wants you waste
All the things you've chased

Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around

Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name

Where's your crown, King Nothing?
Where's your crown?

Hot and cold
Bought and Sold
A heart as hard as gold
Yeah! Are you satisfied?

Wish I might
Wish I may
You wish your life away
Are you pacified?

All the wants you waste
All the things you chased

Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around

Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name

Where's your crown, King Nothing?
Where's your crown?

I wish I may
I wish I might
Have this wish I wish tonight
I want that star
I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how

Careful what you wish
Careful what you say
Careful what you wish
You may regret it
Careful what you wish
You just might get it

Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around

Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name
Where's your crown, King Nothing?

-- Metallica

Name = A completely inoffensive name (org handle)
DAY SIX
I am the shadow, and the smoke in your eyes
I am the ghost, that hides in the night

Boom-lay boom-lay, boom! (repeat)

Wait, wait a minute take a step back,
Gotta think twice before you react.
So stay, stay a little while cause a promise
Not kept is the road to exile
Hey, what's the circumstance
You'll never be great without taking a chance
So, wait you waited too long
Had your hands in your pocket
When you should've been gone.

(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
One push is all you need
(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
A fist-first philosophy
(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
We watch with wounded eyes.
(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
So I hope you recognize.

Out on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
I say goodbye to my weakness, so long to the regrets
And now I see the world through diamond eyes

Damn, damn it all down
Took one to the chest without even a sound
so, what, what do you want
The things you love or the people you hurt
Hey, it's like deja vu suicidal maniac with nothing to lose
So wait, it's the exception to the rule
Everyone of us is expendable

(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
One push is all you need
(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
This is philosophy.
(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
We watch with wounded eyes.
(Boom-lay boom-lay boom)
So I hope you recognize.

Out on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
I say goodbye to my weakness,
So long to the regrets
And now I know that I'm alive

Out on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
I say goodbye to my weakness so long to the regrets
And now I see the world through
Diamond Eyes

Every night of my life I watch angels fall from the sky
Every time that the sun still sets
I pray they don't take mine

I'm on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
I say goodbye to my weakness so long to regrets

Out on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
I say goodbye to my weakness so long to the regrets
And now I know that I'm alive

Out on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
I say goodbye to my weakness, so long to the regrets
And now I see the world through diamond eyes

Out on the front line, don't worry I'll be fine
The story is just beginning
(The story is just beginning)
I say goodbye to my weakness,
So long to the regrets
And now i see the world through
Diamond eyes

-- Shinedown



Diamond eyes = Diamondeye, obviously. This was more a hint that the songs are hints, than a hint about Diamondeye.
NIGHT SIX
Another day in this carnival of souls
Another night settles in as quickly as it goes
The memories are shadows; ink on the page
And I can't seem to find my way home

And it's almost like
Your heaven's trying everything
Your heaven's trying everything
To keep me out

All the places I've been and things I've seen
A million stories that made up a million shattered dreams
The faces of people I'll never see again
And I can't seem to find my way home

Cause it's almost like
Your heaven's trying everything
To break me down
Cause it's almost like
Your heaven's trying everything
To keep me out


-- Five Finger Death Punch

Heaven = God = God Emperor
Heaven = God = God of Destruction/Sephiroth
NIGHT SEVEN
Decisions made from desperation
No way to go
Internal instincts craving isolation
For me to grow

My fears come alive
In this place where I once died
Demons dreaming
Knowing I... I just needed to realign

Fell in a river of illusion
And apathy
Drowning in a self-induced confusion
I'd rather be

My fears come alive
In this place where I once died
Demons dreaming
Knowing I... I just needed to realign

-- Godsmack


Demons dreaming = The demon (Yeqon Lucifuge Caacrinolaas) / Reenkis Roinkis
Godsmack = God Emperor
Godsmack = God of Destruction = Sephiroth
DAY EIGHT
In this life I'm me just sitting here alone
By the way I tried to say I'd be there for you
Walk the silent emptiness that leads me by my hands
And throw away what I don't understand, as a man

Love Hate
Sex Pain
It's complicating me sometimes
This Love Hate
Sex Pain
it's underestimated lies

And I wonder as I tear away my skin
It's taken me so long to stitch
These wounds from where I've been
And mother please don't bury me
I'm begging for my life
It's hard to say that I will be complete
Before I die

Love Hate
Sex Pain
It's complicating me sometimes
This Love Hate
Sex Pain
it's underestimated lies

Don't you worry please
Don't you leave me
Because I surely slip away
Though love, hate, sex, and pain
I fall away into
Love, hate sex, and pain


-- Godsmack

Love = Lover = Kafei, who was being lynched that day.
Godsmack = See above.
NIGHT EIGHT
See The Sunlight
We Ain't Stoppin’
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
If You Feel It
Let It Happen
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends

See The Sunlight
We Ain't Stoppin’
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends
If You Feel It
Let It Happen
Keep On Dancing Till The World Ends

-- Britney Spears

The world ending = destruction = God of Destruction
Also a reference to the evil aligned people killing off Chaotics one after another.... "keep on going" is the theme of this song.
DAY NINE
And the road becomes my bride
I have stripped of all but pride
So in her I do confide
And she keeps me satisfied
Gives me all I need
And with dust in throat I crave
Only knowledge will I save
To the game you stay a slave
Rover, wanderer
Nomad, vagabond
Call me what you will

But I'll take my time anywhere
Free to speak my mind anywhere
And I'll redefine anywhere
Anywhere I roam
Where I lay my head is home

And the earth becomes my throne
I adapt to the unknown
Under wandering stars I've grown
By myself but not alone
I ask no one
And my ties are severed clean
Less I have the more I gain
Off the beaten path I reign
Rover, wanderer
Nomad, vagabond
Call me what you will
Yeah, you will

But I'll take my time anywhere
I'm free to speak my mind anywhere
and I'll take my time anywhere
Anywhere I roam
Where I lay my head is home


-- Metallica

"By myself but not alone" = a reference to Sephiroth being the last Chaotic alive, but not the last one standing.... Seon is still murdering.
"Call me what you will".... What do you call someone? A name perhaps?
A completely inoffensive name, perhaps.
NIGHT NINE
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi.
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi.
Sephiroth!
Sephiroth!

Estuans interius
Ira vehementi.
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi.
Sephiroth!
Sephiroth!

Sors immanis-
Et inanis.
Sors immanis-
Et inanis.
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi.
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi.
Sephiroth!
Sephiroth!

Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias.
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias.
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias.
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias.

Gloriosa Generosa...
Gloriosa Generosa...
Gloriosa Generosa...
Gloriosa Generosa...

SEPHIROTH!

-- Nobuo Uematsu

Sephiroth is the one who needs to be lynched for a victory.
Love your neighbor; sleep with his wife
Grab a pencil; show yourself a magic trick
It's terrible to be alive
If you drink bleach you'll live forever
Go to jail and make new friends
If you eat nails you'll die a winner

Advice Dog
You found God
For better
You'll live forever if you
Kill God
Be a Good dog
Your power
Will let you die a winner

Play warcraft and die alone
Eat 20 big macs; don't work out
Move to Florida; drill for oil
You should totally; a coca cola bottle
Gasoline tastes like happiness
Trust Al Gore and Drive a Hybrid

It's terrible to be alive
If you drink bleach you'll live forever
Go to jail and make new friends
If you eat nails you'll die a winner

Live forever
Die a Winner
Live forever.
Die a winner.
Live Forever.
Die a winner.


Advice dog told you to "kill God"

God of Destruction = ACIN.
DAY TEN
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
Eyes burn with stinging sweat
Seems every path leads me to nowhere
Wife and kids household pet
Army green was no safe bet
The bullets scream to me from somewhere

Here they come to snuff the rooster, aww yeah, hey yeah
Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
You know he ain't gonna die
No, no, no, ya know he ain't gonna die

Walkin' tall machine gun man
They spit on me in my home land
Gloria sent me pictures of my boy
Got my pills 'gainst mosquito death
My Buddy's breathin' his dyin' breath
Oh god please won't you help me make it through

Here they come to snuff the rooster, aww yeah
Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
You know he ain't gonna die
No, no, no ya know he ain't gonna die

-- Alice in Chains


God = God of Destruction = Sephiroth.

When they come to snuff the Angel, you know he ain't gonna die....

He can survive a lynch!
NIGHT TEN
I can feel the animal inside
My resolve is weakening
Pounding on the doors of my mind
Its nearly overpowering
I cannot begin to describe
The hunger that I feel again
Run if you intend to survive
For the beast is coming to life

Taking more than a glimmer of this tainted moonlight
Death approaches on this night

For the animals soul is mine
We will be completed right before your eyes
I have no control this time
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

I can feel the calling again
The primal need is filling me
Changes are about to begin
And now my blood is boiling
I can see the fear in your eyes
But you cant bring yourself to scream
Time to shed the mortal disguise
The beast is coming to life
Taking more than a glimmer of this tainted moonlight
Death approaches on this night

For the animals soul is mine
We will be completed right before your eyes
I have no control this time
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

We begin the hunt tonight
Til the power courses the creatures take flight
When the kill is close and I will be satisfied
For the smell of fear tonight
Wakes an ancient lust that will not be denied
You're mine

For the animals soul is mine
We will be completed right before your eyes
I have no control this time
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

For the animals soul is mine
And the world around will never hear your cries
An unholy crime
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

-- Disturbed


Completed = a COMPLETELY inoffensive name.
DAY ELEVEN
In my eyes, indisposed
In disguises no one knows
Hides the face, lies the snake
The sun in my disgrace
Boiling heat, summer stench
'Neath the black the sky looks dead
Call my name through the cream
And I'll hear you scream again

Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain?
Black hole sun
Won't you come?
Won't you come?

Stuttering, cold and damp
Steal the warm wind tired friend
Times are gone for honest men
And sometimes far too long for snakes
In my shoes, a walking sleep
And my youth I pray to keep
Heaven send Hell away
No one sings like you anymore

Hang my head, drown my fear
Till you all just disappear

-- Soundgarden

Heaven and hell = God of Destruction.... Sephiroth.
NIGHT ELEVEN
Another mission
The powers have called me away
Another time
To carry the colors again
My motivation
An oath I've sworn to defend
To win the honor
Of coming back home again
No explanation
Will matter after we begin
Unlock the dark destroyer that's buried in me
My true vocation
And now my unfortunate friend
You will discover
A war you're unable to win

I'll have you know
That I've become

Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side
A terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while you're alive
I'm an indestructible master of war

Another reason
Another cause for me to fight
Another fuse uncovered
Now, for me to light
My dedication
To all that I've sworn to protect
I carry out my orders
With not a regret
A declaration
Embedded deep under my skin
A permanent reminder
Of how we began
No hesitation
When I am commanding the strike
You need to know
That you're in for the fight of your life

You will be shown
How I've become

Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side
A terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while you're alive
I'm an indestructible master of war

-- Disturbed


Indestructible = god of DESTRUCTION.

ACIN is also fairly indestructible. He can't be vig-killed or retaliatory killed or roleblocked and he doesn't die from the first lynch. Had ACIN ever been attacked successfully.... this clue would have pointed at him. Now, it's misleading, and can point at Earthling.

And so on. At this point there are plenty of hints that it is ACIN, including the writeup where ACIN nearly got lynched but Psychonaut did instead; the Angel doesn't appear while ACIN's character is present.

Other characters appear in the writeup, with the Angel present, thus hinting they were not the Angel.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Endgame Commentary Part Two- The Cards


The cards contained subtle patterns which emerged only after prolonged play. The most meaningful of which were:

1. There is at least one Chaotic of every suit.
2. There is at least one additional non-Evil of every suit. (Lover, Serial Killer, Neutral, Townie)
3. King and Queen of every suit are always pairs.
4. Seven of every suit had a meaning.
5. 10 of every suit had a meaning.

There were a few triplets who could find each other via their card number. Sixes, Sevens, Nines.

Hearts
A South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Porcupiney the Porcupine)
K (King Dodongo) Kafei- Lover
Q (Queen Parasite) Anju- Lover
J Futurama Drama Mafiama: (Zapp Brannigan)
10 Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Black Knight who always Triumphs)
9 Futurama Drama Mafiama: (Professor Farnsworth)
8 The Full Monty: (Itchy and Scratchy)
7 MarioKart Madness @ TWC: (Fire Brothers)
6 The Chainsaw Gang @ CFC (Josh Timman- The Satanic Teacher)
5 Speed Mafia: (Advice Dog- The evil meme)
4 Speed Mafia II: (Fluffy Bunny- The cute bunny)
3 South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Squrrely the Squirrel)
2 South Park Mafia @ TWC: (Satan) King Dodongo

Clubs
A Star Wars: Fall of the Order: (Bane Anded- Supreme Grandmaster) Neutral
K Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog)
Q Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Legendary Black Beast of ARRRRGGHH)
J Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (El Gigante- Richard Bauer Transformation)
10 Treehouse of Horror: (Sideshow Bob- Serial Killer) Serial Killer
9 Askthepizzaguy Mafia: (Anthony "Tony" Valerio)
8 Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Alfred Branagh- SynTech Assassin) Screwtape
7 MarioKart Madness @ TWC: (Hammer Brothers)
6 Askthepizzaguy Mafia: (Vincenzo "Vinnie" Valerio)
5 South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Beary the Bear)
4 South Park Mafia @ TWC: (Saddam Hussein)
3 The Snatcher: (The Snatcher- Alien Parasite)
2 Vexing Mafia @ TWC: (Jerry Seinfeld- The unfunny comedian) Neutral

Diamonds
A Star Wars: Fall of the Order: (Darth Kojiro- Dark Lord of the Sith)
K The Golden Rule: (Askthepizzaguy- The FBI agent)
Q Resident Evil Omega: (Kansas C. Smith- Umbrella Agent)
J Psycho Mafia II: (God Of Destruction) Sephiroth
10 Murder Manor III: (Yeqon Lucifuge Caacrinolaas- The Demon) Reenkis Roinkis
9 The Chainsaw Gang @ CFC (Richard Bird- The Satanic Pastor)
8 Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Head Knight who says Ni)
7 MarioKart Madness @ TWC: (Boomerang Brothers)
6 Askthepizzaguy Mafia: (Salvatore "Sal" Valerio)
5 Psycho Mafia: (Andy- the Psycho Detective) Neutral
4 Mini Mafia VII: (Lore- The Evil Android)
3 Star Fox: Lylat Wars (Andross Oikonny- The Big Bad)
2 The Night Santa Went Crazy: (Rudolph the Disobedient Reindeer)

Spades
A Silent Hill Mafia @ TWC: (Alessa's Wrath)
K Mini Simpsons Mafia: (Monty Burns)
Q Mini Simpsons Mafia: (Wayland Smithers)
J Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Arnold "Colmillo" Grande- The Spanish Assassin)
10 Murder Manor I: (White Eyes- The Assassin) Crazed Rabbit
9 South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Manbearpig)
8 Mini Mafia V: (Uhura- the Klingon Assassin)
7 Mini Mafia IV: (Mace Windu- Jedi Master) Townie
6 The Chainsaw Gang @ CFC (James Marshall- The Satanic Choir Director)
5 Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Claire Raval- Umbrella Assassin)
4 Murder Manor II: (Yoyoma1910- The Lord of Annihilation)
3 The Night Santa Went Crazy: (Blitzen the Disobedient Reindeer)
2 Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Alyssa Martin- Parasite Queen)


Hearts Theme:

Ace of Hearts was an evil-aligned natural reviver AND defender (Hearts = lives)
King and Queen of Hearts were the Lovers. (King and Queen form a couple)
Jack of Hearts was a character who fancied himself a ladies' man (Zapp Brannigan, investigator/blocker)
10 of Hearts was the character with extra lives (3 lives, plus bulletproof)
9 of Hearts was an evil-aligned natural reviver and investigator. (Hearts = lives)
8 of Hearts was a vigilante/retaliation expert, but also a duo (Hearts imply pairing)

The major cards in the Hearts suit were lovers, defenders, bulletproofs, revivers, blockers, or couples. All the evil-aligned revivers in the game were Hearts. The Lovers were Hearts. The Chaotic-aligned lover was 2 of hearts and King of Hearts. Hearts also contained lots of "cute little critters"; Porcupiney, Squirrely, Cute Little Bunny, Advice Dog, A cat and dog team, and a turtle.

Hearts was non-aggressive, supportive, and defensive. The theme was "supportive".

Clubs Theme:

Ace of Clubs was Bane Anded, a Vigilante/roleblock specialist. The only true vigilante in the game.
King and Queen of Clubs were the Killer Rabbit and Black Beast pair, from the Python Mafia who had vigilante and retaliatory powers, both "unstoppable" with anti-roleblock powers.
Jack of Clubs was a bulletproof/retaliatory character, El Gigante.
10 of Clubs was the Serial Killer, Sideshow Bob.
9 of Clubs was a bus driver/roleblocker, the gangster Tony Valerio
8 of Clubs was the assassin Alfred Branagh, another ultra-violent character.

The major cards in the Clubs suit were vigilantes, retaliation specialists, or blockers. The only true vigilante and the only true serial killer were both Clubs. There were several gangsters and other ultra-violent characters.

Clubs was aggressive, retaliatory, and roleblocking. The theme was "ultra-violent".

Diamonds theme:

Ace of Diamonds was Darth Kojiro, A Vigilante/roleblock specialist. The counterpart to Bane Anded. (Ace of Clubs)
King and Queen of Diamonds were Askthepizzaguy and Kansas C. Smith, male and female of the Cosa Nostra. Smith had an override, Pizza had bulletproof, Smith had bulletproof.
Jack of Diamonds was Sephiroth. He couldn't be scanned properly, blocked, vig-killed, or retaliated against, and had an override.
10 of Diamonds was Reenkis Roinkis, who couldn't be blocked, and could revive Chaotic characters! He also had bulletproof.
9 of Diamonds was Richard Bird, a natural vigilante and defender.
8 of Diamonds was the Knight of Ni, a defender/blocker.

The major cards in the Diamonds suit were bulletproof, defenders, overriders, or held immunities. The Diamonds suit was the only suit with two Chaotic characters, side-by-side. The Diamonds suit also contained the only true natural detective in the game, Psycho Andy, who could perform true alignment scans, successful against all but Sephiroth and the Crazed Rabbit.

Diamonds was immune, defensive, and override-capable. The theme was "overpowering".


Spades Theme:

Ace of Spades was Pyramid Head, the character with the most gigantic blade I've ever seen. (Giant Spade) A credit-regenerating vigilante.
King and Queen of Spades were Monty Burns and Waylon Smithers, a "pair" from the Springfield Mafia, one with the goal to defend the other. A bulletproof thief, and a defender investigator.
Jack of Spades was Colmillo, the Spanish Assassin. A retaliating vigilante.
10 of Spades was the assassin White Eyes / the gangster Crazed Rabbit, a scanproof Chaotic with evasion powers.
9 of Spades was Manbearpig, the second strongest natural vigilante in the game.
8 of Spades was the Klingon Assassin, a blocker/retaliator.

The major cards in the Spades suit were professional assassins and vigilantes, excepting the King and Queen. Many other characters in the Spades suit were also assassins or vigilantes. The idea of a spade being like a dagger is the main theme; all of the "assassin" characters in the game (excepting the CIA assassin Alfred Branagh, which was only a cover role anyway) were Spades, or "Daggers".

Spades were retaliatory, vigilant, and mostly assassins. The theme was "daggers".



Patterns:

Pairs
King and Queen of all suits were always paired, either as Lovers, or in the Same Faction.
Ace of Clubs and Ace of Diamonds were counterparts, in the Same Faction.
8 and 9 of Hearts were paired together in the Same Faction.
5 and 4 of Hearts were paried together in the Same Faction.
5 and 4 of Clubs were paired together in the Same Faction.
10 and 9 of Diamonds were paired together in the Same Faction
J and 10 of Diamonds were paired together as Chaotic.

Tens
10 of Hearts had 3 lives. One for each life the other 10s could take away....
10 of Clubs was the Serial Killer.
10 of Diamonds was Chaotic.
10 of Spades was Chaotic.
10, 10, 10 = Guilty, Guilty, Guilty (GUILTY TRIO)

Sixes and Nines
6, 6, 9 = Sal Valerio, Vinnie Valerio, Tony Valerio (VALERIO TRIO) [Think 666 with an inverted 6 at the end]
6, 6, 9 = James Marshall, Josh Timman, Richard Bird (SATANIC TRIO) [Think 666 with an inverted 6 at the end]

Sevens
7, 7, 7 = Hammer Bros, Fire Bros, Boomerang Bros (HAMMER BROS TRIO)
The remaining 7 was a Goody-Goody TOWNIE

Twos
2 of hearts, 2 of spades = Lovers. An inverted heart looks like a Spade. 2 implies a couple.

The rest of the numbers didn't have much meaning. Although sometimes I took a vague meaning from the card, example being Ace of Spades being the character with the largest blade in the game, as the Ace of Spades contains an image of the largest Spade.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Endgame Commentary Part Three- Balance


In designing such a complicated game, game balance is highly important. I've noted at least one player so far seems to think the game was woefully imbalanced. So let's take a look at the game balance.


Evil Team:


Contained 40 participants, versus 5 chaotics, 1 serial killer, 1 "good" townie, and 3 neutrals. A massive numbers advantage.



Each individual evil participant had a chance to SINGLE-HANDEDLY destroy any of 3 chaotics, the serial killer, the townie, or any of the neutrals, on the very first night of the game, using the 70-credit vigilante attempt. So, quite frankly, the only reason that so many of the non-evils survived well into the game is because people didn't want to take big risks with their money. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.



Each individual evil participant had a chance to steal an item from any of the guilty parties on the first night of the game. Many of their items were incriminating. None of the guilty parties could prevent item theft. Imagine if Sephiroth's Masamune, Petrify Spell, or Phoenix Down got stolen. He would have lost the game, because any of those items would have immediately incriminated him.



Each individual evil participant had the ability to self-defend on N1 for 50 credits. The only reason anyone died on N1 was because people decided to conserve their credits. Even Sephiroth's override didn't function on the first night, so no one needed to die, and yet that was the most violent night of the game....



Each individual participant could eventually revive someone, given enough credits.



There were enough items in the game to ensure that some member of their team could not die except by override (bus drive that person for maximum effect!), some member of their team could protect at a very high level of effectiveness, someone could always vig-kill, someone could always investigate, someone could roleblock at a very high level of effectiveness, someone could always retaliate, someone could always override, someone could bus drive at a high level of effectiveness....



And because these were items that remained when their owners died, these were like pro-town roles that could never be killed off.



Every individual could steal credits. Then, you could simply out-bid the chaotics and more or less single-handedly take down any one scumbag in the game, forcing them to match your bid, which they would lose credits on, and possibly have a teammate intervene to help them. In no other game, except Askthepizzaguy Mafia I, was the scum team so vulnerable to a single participant's vote. Note Earthling's 75-credit wager on ACIN which nearly single-handedly won the game for you.

I rest my case, guys. You cannot say the Evil Team didn't have the tools to do the job. They had those tools and thensome, and thensome. You never, ever, ever needed to rely on the dice, and then you had the dice too. A small percent chance of effectiveness is ALWAYS better than zero, and zero is what you would have gotten in any other game as a vanilla townie. So, basically, it's not the dice's fault, because the dice were always a positive thing for the Evil Team. Anything was better than zero percent effectiveness.

Negatives? The Evil Team did have goals to eliminate each other. But those goals could also win the game for you regardless, as Romanic and Backwards Logic saw. So there was an additional way to win the game.... it was a double-edged sword, but at least it was a sword. Note also, that at least two factions had goals to eliminate every member of every faction that had Chaotics as a team member. If you folks were just trying to accomplish your faction goals, you would have also eliminated most of the Chaotics, the Serial Killer, and the Townie, because you would eventually have to target said person. And even if your faction got eliminated, another faction wanted to do the same thing. Every Chaotic not only had every Evil targeting them, but also two factions specifically out to get them. And the end result was a second path to victory, not just the incentive to kill off Chaotics.

Even their handicap of faction rivalries had positives associated with it.


Chaotic Team:


Began with 5 members who knew each other, which is an absolute necessity given the amount of murderous crossfire there would be in this game, with a Serial Killer, a true vigilante, a true detective, and evils just sitting around with weapons and credits to use for violent means.



Most of these Chaotics had similar goals that the Evil characters did, to outlast their own teammates, or win with their faction rather than their team. So they couldn't necessarily trust each other either.



One member was scan-immune and a detective, which is a powerful solo role.



One member was able to kill even past his own death, and had the ability to convert 2 people if the opposite outcome happened (him being the last chaotic standing), which is a powerful solo role.



One member could revive anyone he wanted without using credits, and eventually stole enough credits to revive someone else, too, thus accomplishing his goal of reviving two people. He was also roleblock immune, so no one could stop him from reviving every night if he did it successfully.... unless he died. A powerful solo role.



One member could locate an ally which he could then protect, and this ally would protect him from scan. And he was already semi-immune to vigilantism. A powerful solo role.



One member who could murder every night, unafraid of roleblocks, scans, vigilantes, retaliation, and could penetrate defenses. Basically, he was the only member who could single-handedly take on the entire Evil Team and somehow make it, as long as he wasn't lynched. A necessary role, in a game where his entire team was likely to be killed off by accident or on purpose.



They started with only 500 credits to your 4000. Their main threat was winning by credits: If they could steal enough credits, they would win. You needed to steal those credits back or eliminate them before they got too powerful. Neither team was very successful here; they didn't bother hoarding credits as a main strategy, and very few people ever made a point of trying to prevent Chaotic credit victory by trying to steal credits from everyone.



They all started with incriminating items. And there was a thief in the game who managed to steal at least one of those items. None had the ability to prevent item or credit theft, which was the best way to disarm, disable, and uncover all of the guilty parties.



There were clues embedded in the songs and in the cards which would have neutered them entirely if the clues were decoded.



They suffered the same penalties as the others when their wagers proved ineffective or inaccurate. The Chaotic team would rarely get their credits back from wagering on anyone, unless they killed off their own partners. This made them weaker, man for man, than the Evil team who did not suffer that penalty.



Although they were very, very powerful, they had to be to counter the Evil Team's immense power alone, never mind hostile neutrals, serial killer, and thief townie. And as you saw, once the True Scanner item fell into Evil hands, Chaotics quickly went on the chopping block as their own items were turned against them. The game came down to a virtual tie between the Chaotic and Evil Teams.

All of this tells me the balance of power between Evil and Chaotic was precisely balanced, not imbalanced at all.


Neutral:


These were the power roles "True Detective", "Roleblocker", "Vigilante". The downside, is that they lose their team victory upon death. They can win with the Evil, they can win with the Chaotic, they can win with the Serial Killer. So, whoever is willing to not kill them, and protect them, they will ally with and help you out. The risk is, can you trust them? They are neutral after all.



The roleblocker could actively stop murders from happening, by blocking people. This ability would be valuable enough to use bus drivers or defenders to keep this role alive, in exchange for being hired out as the town roleblocker. The chaotics, of course, have some anti-roleblock powers and won't see the neutral as much of a threat. They could ignore the blocker and possibly ally with the blocker later, as the blocker feels exposed.



The vigilante could single-handedly destroy most of the more prominent threats against his life, the serial killer, several chaotics, and mafia rivals who want him dead for factional reasons. So he had tools to achieve his team goal of survival.



The true detective, while the most defenseless, was also given an option right at the start of the game to switch teams and become the Evil Team's true detective, or accept the more ballsy and risky and fun mission I gave him, which I am delighted to say he chose. But you can't say I didn't offer him an easier mission....



While survival in this game is perhaps the hardest team victory condition of all, it's also fairly easy to accomplish your factional goals with a true scanner, blocker, or vigilante on your side. And since Team Victory isn't the only way to win, they didn't have an impossible mission. Plus they had the same powers everyone else had, only more of them.

I rate these roles as very hard, but still capable of being played.


Good:



Given a very difficult solo mission to complete, but one that can be committed stealthily.



Given the tools to complete the mission.



Risks being blocked, silenced, lynched, murdered, scanned, etc.... any one of those things virtually ends all counter-play.



Is capable of winning the game outright within a half-dozen rounds or more.


Since this role could also win via factional means and by stealing just 7 items, it wasn't an impossible role. And since this role did complete the assigned mission, in spite of massive crossfire, being scanned as "good" twice, and nearly lynched twice, I have to say that the role was obviously capable of being played, and the only reason this role won the game was because people allowed it to happen. Case closed, yes?



Serial Killer:



Only needs to kill 2 people to win the game outright, but they are specific people. Or, could kill one member of every faction or outlast that faction. This is a relatively easy mission, the challenge is surviving, as we all saw.



Has some factional allies, but is otherwise alone on this mission.



Is the only non-chaotic who can kill every night without assistance.



Can kill through protection with the "tactical nuke"/Triforce item.



Survival is unlikely, but survival isn't the goal. The goal is finding and eliminating the two lovers. He could even PRETEND TO BE one of the lovers to try to prompt the others into claiming...



Since he has the same means of a secondary victory as everyone else, simply eliminating his mafia faction rivals using his massively powerful every-night free murder weapon, his secondary mission of wiping out faction rivals was the easiest to complete out of anyone in the game, chaotics included, because their factional rivals often included chaotic teammates.


So, although his primary mission is easy or hard, depending on how lucky he is, his secondary mission is the easiest of all participants. The main challenge was living long enough to see his evil dreams come true. So, that was the way his role was balanced. That's the challenge every serial killer faces, yet in this game, the serial killer didn't have to be the last one standing, by himself, and had several ways to win faster. So I say it was the easiest serial killer role of all time, even if it was a hard role. And he lost immediately....



Summary

Given the chaotic nature of the game, the unpredictable nature of the lynch, the violent nature of the night phases, and the tools which can easily take down anyone in the game, including the hardest nuts to crack, coming up with an equation of balance is difficult. Luck is a major factor here, but then again, skill doesn't hurt either and is often necessary for fast wins.

I have to disagree with some folks who say the game wasn't balanced. In spite of chronic inactivity, replacement players, and even some bad rules which need to be changed for next time (Lynch player X, can't say why, but we all know why. Wink wink) it was possible for anyone to win this game.

And unlike some complex games where everyone can perform actions, this game was very, very difficult to solve by spreadsheet, due to the lack of information in the writeups and in your results as to whether actions happened, or why they failed, and the fact that everyone can perform two actions. So solving the game by spreadsheet was not as easy as Capo III, Pirate Ship, Rubicon, and other similar games, which was the main obstacle in designing such games, because they're inherently unfair on the mafia.

I believe I've accomplished something which broke through that barrier with this game design.

I'm certainly open to criticism, but I'd like to note that there are strong reasons to consider this game balanced, and also worthy of a sequel, and it did offer something that no other game before it was able to offer, in terms of having to rely on guesses still, even with all the information present. I broke the spreadsheet barrier, so to speak.

Those are my thoughts on balance. Go ahead, hit me with why I'm wrong. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

How "unrealistic" Bad Luck was thwarted: The Hidden Rule


No matter what your percentage chance of success on any action was, if you performed it enough times in a row, it would succeed. This was the thing I promised at the beginning of the game which would thwart unrealistic bad luck, or lessen luck as a factor.


10% chance of vigilantism would work at 100% effectiveness after 9 failed attempts.

20% chance of roleblock would work at 100% effectiveness after 5 failed attempts.

40% chance of revive would work at 100% effectiveness after 2 failed attempts.

50% chance of self-defense, or defense, or whatever.... would work after a failed attempt.

Combine items together, and you get an item which is effective every night, every other night, or every other-other night. Spend credits on self-defense and it fails? Your next chance won't fail.


That's how the game couldn't be ruined for any one player because of bad rolls over and over. Now, if you wager all your credits on an expensive action and it fails, those are the breaks. Steal and save up, and try it again; it will likely work.


That was my solution to bad dice rolls. It doesn't negate the bad luck of bad luck, but it means there is always hope, and there is a non-luck based way of success even with less than 100% chance of effective action.

These are all base numbers, and don't take into account being roleblocked (too bad) or if you hit someone who is immune (too bad). Otherwise, your action would work. If you performed other actions in between your run of bad luck, the numbers would reset. You had to be persistent.





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EDIT: Theme Songs




Theme Songs.... well, these were to play if and when your character won the game. Example: Renata's "Justice" played when she won. And Sephiroth's theme was heard all over the place while he was winning and when he won.

I may have edited this list, it may not be the final draft, but it was in my notes.

Caution: I did use the censored versions of these songs in writeups, I may not have included the censored versions in this list. I think most of them are the censored version, though.

Springfield Mafia Faction (6)

Mini Simpsons Mafia: (Monty Burns)
Mr Burns See my Vest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYbKipNtac

Mini Simpsons Mafia: (Wayland Smithers)
Simpsons Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOhUtrDmB34&feature=related

Futurama Drama Mafiama: (Professor Farnsworth)
Weird Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0dISPPNrqQ&feature=fvst

Futurama Drama Mafiama: (Zapp Brannigan)
Womanizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqgy9hSqk0A

The Full Monty: (Itchy and Scratchy)
Rat in a Cage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSy8NWhykxw&feature=related

Treehouse of Horror: (Sideshow Bob- Serial Killer) GANONDORF
Getting Away with Murder (Sideshow Bob)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKVpLL3EJq0
Ganondorf (Ganondorf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1EAFaro95g
Ganon (Ganon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpIn2xMJyv4


Dark Falls Mafia Faction (5)

Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Arnold "Colmillo" Grande- The Spanish Assassin)
Take back the fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8QEelJ-pmw

Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Alfred Branagh- SynTech Assassin) SCREWTAPE
Don't Tread on Me (Branagh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1s-eV-Bd0

Dragula (Screwtape)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Z1Zrot-go

Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (El Gigante- Richard Bauer Transformation)
Lullaby for a dead man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHXlTnOdpbs&feature=related

Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Claire Raval- Umbrella Assassin)
Beauty of Annihilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngm2nAzBZa4&feature=related

Resident Evil: Dark Falls: (Alyssa Martin- Novia Mortal, the Deadly Bride) ANJU
Manson RE movie theme (Alyssa)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGvtkVVas0&feature=related

Skillet Awake and Alive (Anju)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXE0MOzI-vQ



South Park Mafia Faction (6)

South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Beary the Bear)
Seek and Destroy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAdgt5Glk0

South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Porcupiney the Porcupine)
The God that Failed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgrxgp2Jp94&feature=related

South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Squrrely the Squirrel)
Of Wolf and Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SefZtDtTYHk

South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (Manbearpig)
Slayer Reign in Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KsPZ1f7MDs

South Park Mafia @ TWC: (Satan) KING DODONGO - KAFEI
Metallica- Am I evil? (Satan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB6Fa_pJqRQ
Dodongo (Dodongo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKWOb5PMY4
Love Hate Sex Pain (Kafei)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzpx-s0X3Rk&feature=related

South Park Mafia @ TWC: (Saddam Hussein)
Rob Zombie Red Red Kroovy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtV8UsqIHg8




Pythonian Mafia Faction (4)

Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog)
Beast Inside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zukrMuxKdWE

Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Black Knight who always Triumphs)
Madonna- Die another Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8oIwlL1DC8

Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Legendary Black Beast of ARRRRGGHH)
Isolation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Re4qllZ32E

Monty Python and the Holy Grail @ CFC (The Head Knight who says Ni)
Camelot Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXf96RWdwQ


Psychotic Mafia Faction (6)

Psycho Mafia: (Andy- the Psycho Detective) NEUTRAL DETECTIVE
Coming Undone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pANa4UDccQ

Silent Hill Mafia @ TWC: (Alessa's Wrath)
Drowning Pool Bodies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4

The Chainsaw Gang @ CFC (Richard Bird- The Satanic Pastor)
Ozzy Let it Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf8ondIvlRg&feature=related

The Chainsaw Gang @ CFC (Josh Timman- The Satanic Teacher)
Marilyn Manson- Personal Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxyhHDhzcd8&feature=related

The Chainsaw Gang @ CFC (James Marshall- The Satanic Choir Director)
Bowser Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCZ-TDy1gP0&feature=related

Murder Manor III: (Yeqon Lucifuge Caacrinolaas- The Demon) REENKIS ROINKIS
Disturbed Down with the Sickness (YLC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6-v3zSTKtk

Matrix Finale Theme (Reenkis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJvz7mekv7c&feature=player_embedded



Space Mafia Faction (6)

Mini Mafia IV: (Mace Windu- Jedi Master)
Rev Theory Justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANuVyfJNKPI

Mini Mafia V: (Uhura- the Klingon Assassin)
Pantera Walk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_huqm7usE

The Snatcher: (The Snatcher- Alien Parasite)
Closer (Censored) NIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8F_KaILW6g

Mini Mafia VII: (Lore- The Evil Android)
Machinehead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIF_b4WIlCQ

Star Wars: Fall of the Order: (Darth Kojiro- Dark Lord of the Sith)
Last Man Standing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB6H5q_gyU

Star Wars: Fall of the Order: (Bane Anded- Supreme Grandmaster) NEUTRAL VIG
Globus- Preliator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q6skxRLnsI


Bizarro Mafia Faction (5)

The Night Santa Went Crazy: (Blitzen the Disobedient Reindeer)
Breaking Benjamin So Cold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA_suck5MTg

The Night Santa Went Crazy: (Rudolph the Disobedient Reindeer)
NIN The hand that feeds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qspWU4OMZL0

Speed Mafia: (Advice Dog- The evil meme)
Heroism (Advice Dog Song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR6WemvE9Pk

Speed Mafia II: (Fluffy Bunny- The cute bunny)
Animal I have become
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE0-_2n1Vh8

Vexing Mafia @ TWC: (Jerry Seinfeld- The unfunny comedian) NEUTRAL ROLEBLOCKER
Limp Bizkit My Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwh0bosIJrw


Evil Mafia Faction (6)

Murder Manor II: (Yoyoma1910- The Lord of Annihilation)
Powerman 5000 worlds collide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN4IuLuL7N4

Psycho Mafia II: (God Of Destruction) SEPHIROTH
Avenged Sevenfold- Nightmare- (God of Destruction/Sephiroth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dR-9ytZpMk

One Winged Angel- (SEPHIROTH)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5st0b3ln5U

Star Fox: lylat Wars (Andross Oikonny- The Big Bad)
Master of Puppets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-hEyVQDRA

MarioKart Madness @ TWC: (Hammer Brothers)
MarioKart- Castle Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqFtW92WUaI

MarioKart Madness @ TWC: (Fire Brothers)
Ring of Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QveAv4dNes0

MarioKart Madness @ TWC: (Boomerang Brothers)
MarioKart- Rainbow Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5xdue7GFcc



Cosa Nostra Mafia Faction (6)

The Golden Rule: (Askthepizzaguy- The FBI agent)
All American Nightmare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI9UGquolgM

Murder Manor I: (White Eyes- The Assassin) CRAZED RABBIT
Shinedown Diamondeyes (W-E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4-MqrWoRIg

Metallica Wherever I may Roam (C R)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU9XrnF7mnc&feature=related

Resident Evil Omega: (Kansas C. Smith- Umbrella Agent)
Machine Gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

Askthepizzaguy Mafia: (Anthony "Tony" Valerio)
Three Days Grace- The Good life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOHOCBEVKOI

Askthepizzaguy Mafia: (Vincenzo "Vinnie" Valerio)
Cypress Hill Rock Superstar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gSnVK_bAsk

Askthepizzaguy Mafia: (Salvatore "Sal" Valerio)
Live to Win
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYaQgp8DFCk



Some of the songs make sense for the character. Others I just included because they're fun to listen to and everyone needed a theme song. :book:

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

And he lost immediately....




You say it like it was my fault *shrugs*.

In fact, I lost on a 10% retaliation, failed an 80% vig attempt and a 50% self-protect this game. I now hate random.org.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You say it like it was my fault *shrugs*.

Not at all. You got taken down by bad, bad, bad luck. :embarassed:

After I designed that role, I was at least as disappointed as you were when you died, if not more. I was howling at my random.org screen, saying that it was a liar.

But, I am the plot device of impartially decided destiny. Unfortunately, you went.... and I wept.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Not at all. You got taken down by bad, bad, bad luck. :embarassed:

After I designed that role, I was at least as disappointed as you were when you died, if not more. I was howling at my random.org screen, saying that it was a liar.

But, I am the plot device of impartially decided destiny. Unfortunately, you went.... and I wept.

I was just gutted that quite possibly the best role I had ever had and will ever have got snatched away from me like that. Even more so that at first I was hesitant to make an uneducated night kill in fear of such retaliation (if I recall, my decision to kill Backwards Logic was sent in an amended order PM).

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was just gutted that quite possibly the best role I had ever had and will ever have got snatched away from me like that. Even more so that at first I was hesitant to make an uneducated night kill in fear of such retaliation (if I recall, my decision to kill Backwards Logic was sent in an amended order PM).

I hate to mention this, but in an early design of this game, your character was retaliation immune. I really, really should have left that in.

I removed it because if you had been lucky, your character had the easiest team victory in the game. And it was among the easiest even so. I thought retaliation would have made it harder....

I'm a stupid.

[Diamondeye]

Womanizer Womanizer Womanizer...

Sorry, back on track... I think the game was fairly balanced, ATPG! You did a good job! I was sad that Renata snatched the win, but it was by the narrowest of marginals, so I won't call it imbalanced.

In fact, the thing I (now) think would imbalanced, if any, was Romanic's secret ability to regenerate stolen credits (that was Romanic, right?). But we made it anyway, phew!

[Renata]

The thing that I think was imbalanced despite it not coming into play was the ability to steal items based on name. For the rest of the players that may have been fine (or not; haven't really thought about it). For me, it could have been game-decisive. I got three of my theft targets from faction reveals that were made to me in private by Believer and Earthling; I couldn't have gotten all necessary factions from what was said in public alone (or at least not so fast). That feels right to me: if the rules had restricted me to what I actually did, then my activity behind the scenes would have been necessary to my victory coming so fast. As the rules actually stood, I could have dispensed with all of that and simply stolen items that had come up for vote already. Much, MUCH easier, perhaps too easy.

The 80% theft odds were just about right I think; as it turns out my odds of being successful six times in a row were almost exactly 50%, and that feels appropriate odds for a victory that required perfect intelligence as well as two voted-to-me (or gifted-to-me, though that didn't happen either) items to complete in addition to the six stolen.

I don't think the townies should feel they should have had an reason or obligation to prevent my victory. It was one that was not intended to be foreseen; Diamondeye didn't play his cards correctly; and after I did make it through that day, there wasn't much time left for townies to get paranoid. The way I see it, the most effective way to complete my goal (and the one I chose) was to infiltrate and work with the town; that left me wide open to the chaotics, but due to a lot of stuff they never pulled the trigger.

[Believer]

I got three of my theft targets from faction reveals that were made to me in private by Believer and Earthling; I couldn't have gotten all necessary factions from what was said in public alone (or at least not so fast).

You... You used me? In a mafia game? After all we've been through?
I never thought you'd go so low. My heart is in pieces. :(


Seriously though, well played. The only sad part was for me when I realized that I had depended way too much on our communication to get intel. Important lesson learned, always have a plan B.

[Ironside]

You say it like it was my fault *shrugs*.

In fact, I lost on a 10% retaliation, failed an 80% vig attempt and a 50% self-protect this game. I now hate random.org.

Meh, it went like this for me.
*Reads PM*
You stole Sideshows Bob's nuke and it just transformed into the Triforce.
"Hey ATPG, was this a cover role for the item or something else?"
"ATPG: Cover role for the item."
OMG, my steal plan worked perfectly on first try, I guessed right on a cover role on first steal and got an incriminating item! Hmm, I wonder if I should kill Arpeg by night for personal objective or give him up to town?
ATPG: He's dead.
Me: ... :daisy::furious3:.

Short version. You would be dead anyway Arpeg.

Had that kind of big good luck/bad luck combo all the game it seems.

Survived two attacks (even if ATPG forgot to mention the second one for me and didn't show the first one in the writeup), a total of 0.6% odds of that. Not sure how much giving me that info would've changed things in the end. Couldn't self-defend, so only public statements could've made a difference.
Worst case, the Chaotics steals my Tyrant/Triforce, giving Seph 100% override. Possibly countered by ACIN being too smug after that. :book:

Died due to a busdrive (was that partially by the Chaotics? I can read that they knew that beforehand, in the qt).

100% theft success until the night I died, but stolen of all my credits on night 3, ruining my game and not given enough time to recover.

Got DE -> leading to 2 other Chaotics taken down, but on the wrong critical day, paving for Renata to win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In fact, the thing I (now) think would imbalanced, if any, was Romanic's secret ability to regenerate stolen credits (that was Romanic, right?). But we made it anyway, phew!

I think at least 4 or 5 characters had such an ability. I think the only person who found out they had such a power in time for it to actually matter was Red_Spy;

If Red knew his credits could regenerate, and he also located Chaotix, he could tell Chaotix to steal from him every night, and the two of them would grow powerful in credits together. But Red_Spy went inactive about a round or two before he and Chaotix were killed off, and no one ever utilized their regenerative power.

It would have been very useful, as it was the only way that people could actually create new money besides their 10 credit income per night. It could have been very, very powerful.... and it wasn't used.

Stealing in general was under-utilized until the final rounds.


Also, :laugh4: @ Womanizer womanizer womanizer.

[shlin28]

Died due to a busdrive (was that partially by the Chaotics? I can read that they knew that beforehand, in the qt).


Ooops. I think it was Renata who suggested a couple of people to bus driver, and I chose you. :sweatdrop: The Chaotics knew it because God Emperor infiltrated the townie group.

Regarding dice rolls - On the one hand, my 30% bus driving item succeeded four times in a row, on the other I failed to steal (10%) for 8 rounds. It all balances out I guess!

[Renata]

Died due to a busdrive (was that partially by the Chaotics? I can read that they knew that beforehand, in the qt).

It was my fault, though it wasn't intentional. I can't remember exactly why anymore, but I really wanted you alive. I had some weird blind spots from time to time, trying to keep so many balls in the air. The bus drive was intended to protect Romanic; as a quiet player whom Romanic was more-or-less vouching for I was quite confident you would be neither vigged nor attacked by the mafia: you were perfect! For protecting Romanic. Romanic, on the other hand, was pretty much the worst possible switch for you. And I never saw it, until you died. Biggest WT:daisy: did I just DO moment of the game.

GE did quite well to disguise his pleasure with this idiotic plan, I'm sure (though my other option for the switch was Psychonaut, who was also Evil).

[Renata]

Ooops. I think it was Renata who suggested a couple of people to bus driver, and I chose you. :sweatdrop: The Chaotics knew it because God Emperor infiltrated the townie group.

Oh, that's right, the final decision was yours, I forgot. And GE didn't actually know who you'd chosen until after the fact, I think (though he'd been exposed to the reasoning and the top candidates). Still, Ironside was my idea.

The Chaotics must have been thinking Romanic was passing ATPG fivers under the table for a while there.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did God Emperor "infiltrate" the townie group, or was he just randomly invited?

[Renata]

Better, he pretty much started it. We were talking about people who were likely town and not so much around about the time of the ACIN bandwagon; his vote there had curried considerable favor with me. We mentioned Shlin, Zack, a few others. I wanted to try to create effective protectors. And unless I completely misremember, it was GE who suggested that I get in contact with the people we'd discussed. (As an aside, this was the actual reason I first called for vigs, not because I actually wanted to kill anyone. It converted to trying to kill suspects outright once the protection ideas kept consistently not working out.)

Of course, GE was happy enough for me to do all the leg work and get all the flak. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Smart managers delegate responsibility.

Then they build up a nice nest egg and prepare their golden parachute.

[Renata]

The Chaotic team worked me over something fierce. Getting my own back with that victory was rather sweet. :beam:

[Diamondeye]

Of course, GE was happy enough for me to do all the leg work and get all the flak. :laugh4:

I giggled so much over this. I know GE in real life, so a couple of his talks with you and Romanic (and shlin, I think) took place with me sitting in the same room. He laughs when his manipulations pay off :tongue:

[TheLastDays]

The more I read of this thread and the QTs the more I regret not having participated... So from an outsider view it looks like people had a lot of fun with this!

[Renata]

Oh GOD I didn't even think of that. You two must have had a blast.

[Zack]

We were talking about people who were likely town and not so much around about the time of the ACIN bandwagon; his vote there had curried considerable favor with me. We mentioned Shlin, Zack, a few others.
Heh, you always seem to think I'm likely town. :clown:

[thefluffyone93]

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For everything.

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[Earthling]

There's a lot of things we could discuss about balance but I won't if no one cares to here, and I don't know who ATPG's prior extensive posts were even addressed at, but I'm assuming it's not me since I hadn't really commented on much yet.

I agree that the team victory's worked out pretty well. My comments on balance and suggestions for the future would have little of it about "paper balance," which mostly was good, I'd agree, but other things that made for frustrating or unfair gameplay for many if not most players, even though, yes, some of it was ultimately leading to a closer conclusion of the game which maintained more chances of different victories.

[Renata]

Heh, you always seem to think I'm likely town. :clown:

I do, don't I. Usually I'm right. :beam: Seriously though I should probably lynch you whenever I *don't* get a strong town feeling from you by about day three. It's probably the only chance I have.

[B-Wing]

I agree that the team victory's worked out pretty well.

I seem to remember you vehemently criticizing me for supporting the pursuit of team victories...

But as for the balance of the game's design, I agree that for such an extremely complex game with so many players, you thought it out exceptionally well, ATPG. I think one benefit of the multiple faction set-up, which I didn't see mentioned already, was that it gave Evil players (townies) motivation to kill off certain players before they could actually deduce who the ultimate threats (Chaotics, etc) were. I liked the bloodthirsty nature of the game, and was even a bit shocked at the number of deaths of Night 1. Very entertaining! I don't think there's many players here capable or willing to host such an extravagant game. :2thumbsup:

[Earthling]

team victory means Chaotic, Evil, Good, Neutral, and Serial Killer, not the other secondary victories and goals players had.

[B-Wing]

Ah, I see. I forgot the distinction between Team and Faction.