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Earthling
05-08-2011, 05:59
Actually there's a possibility people betting on me don't have the full amount of credits they bet, and so it wouldn't add up. I don't have a full 50 either but it's worth a try to see how much this adds up to. Sorry mythmonster if this does work.
Fold;
Bet: 50 credits on mythmonster
have fun losing your credits dcmort and not voting at all B_Ray too, you know I'm a Python. Hanging around at the last minute and not giving an opinion, especially B_Ray with who knows what new factional vengeance he's after, way to go town, this is why the town will lose.
Earthling
05-08-2011, 06:07
Oh, this is crazy, I learned something that I didn't expect, promise I'll explain after the lynch if it matters or is possible for me to do so even if mythmonster did get lynched. Anyway all you people waiting around right before the deadline and folding to save credits and so on, we have to make a policy of not doing that or it'll destroy the town every time, still laughing at the scum who are losing credits on me regardless though.
Sorry Earthling if you are innocent. Like I said earlier, if there is no other clear target at the start of the round I would become too busy and not remember to check the thread until it is too late.
Regardless, I love the quote in your sig. Carl Sagan ftw.
thefluffyone93
05-08-2011, 06:15
Really people? Especially Roman, you could have just raised your own bet. Everybody else loses theirs either way as they are not getting credits back on me. I'd clearly say I prefer not to die, way to let the scum lynch an unnightkillable Innocent just like that, but hey. And on top of that everyone has another of not having a clue what Renata is up to or able to question her when we don't see the results of her attempted lynch. It still seems to me the entire real case she was after was that mythmonster didn't "obey" her orders to try to vigilante other people in private. I do think myth is Innocent too though and since it looks like he'll live today, good luck to you. If he wouldn't want to die tonight not really a good idea to force it on him instead of me, just not what an Englishman would do. I also question why fluffy and Visorslash are hanging around, were they waiting to try to swing the tally one way, neither of them have any substantial bets placed beforehand and while fluffy might want me dead for factional revenge if that's even true, Visor has no motive, should place a real bet and take a side.
Hmmm?
No, I just tend to leave this thread open on a tab in my internet browser, so I can refresh periodically, and then I go off and do other things, like Black Ops Call of the Dead.
So it may seem I have been watching this entire conversation for a majority of the day; I just never bothered to close the web browser.
Backwards Logic
05-08-2011, 06:17
Oh, this is crazy, I learned something that I didn't expect, promise I'll explain after the lynch if it matters or is possible for me to do so even if mythmonster did get lynched. Anyway all you people waiting around right before the deadline and folding to save credits and so on, we have to make a policy of not doing that or it'll destroy the town every time, still laughing at the scum who are losing credits on me regardless though.
How exactly will it 'destroy the town?' It's been pointed out numerous times that credits = options, and in the late game they'll mean being able to 1) buy an ability to get some answers on a solid lead or 2) actually have something to use against a possible/highly suspected Chaotic. Quite frankly, I'd frown upon those not folding and wasting all of their credits on basically nothing. Tell me, from an individual standpoint, what's the harm in me folding? What actually changed? As I understand it, folds = losing one credit, which is the same as an abstain/no vote...
Pizza, if you want to validate your tally, here's what I have:
122 mythmonster (DIY 3, GE 10, DE 4, Skooma 5, acin 15, Renata 4, Ironside 5, Greyblades 20, shlin 5, Romanic 1, Earthling 50)
120 Earthling (Visorslash 2, dcmort 40, Psychonaut 39, Crazed Rabbit 19, autolycus 20)
50 Skooma Addict (mythmonster 50)
20 Visorslash (Link 20)
3 Renata (Chaotix 3)
1 autolycus (Believer 1)
Maybe I missed something though.
Earthling
05-08-2011, 06:20
In your case as a revived Innocent suppose it's better you don't lose credits. In everybody else's case, no, because it's endorsing that behavior from everyone else too, and there needs to be a policy of universal punishment (like lynching the next day) from every other player for such shenanigans that we all agree on in advance, or the chaotics will escape any future lynch with last minute stuff. People who make big bets early and intend to fold last second are purposefully misleading the town and waste others' credits, for instance due to Roman inflating the tally others might have wagered more credits than they would have, yet he loses nothing.
edit @ Roman - that's not going to match ATPG's tally anyway because I don't have 50 credits, it will simply be all I have and show that I'm out otherwise, but that's already pretty well known as some (scum) stole a lot from me a couple nights back. The question is if dcmort or a couple others' max bets are also valid or if they don't really have that many credits either.
Really people? Especially Roman, you could have just raised your own bet.
<snip>
Yeah, well... At the time I reduced my bet, you were about 40 credits behind, with 15 mins to go. Even though I preferred a mythmonster lynch, I wasn't going to save you near the deadline, with a large bet. It's one thing to think someone else is a better lynch, but entirely another to strongly vouch for you like you said I should have. Any better lower than 40 credits (or so) would had me losing these credits, and any higher bet is way too much a commitment to your innocence, something that I am really not sure about.
Ugh.... Betting more credits than you actually have, should not be allowed. It's similar to tally manipulation, which is frowned upon. I can see how players can take advantage of this, placing large bets, making it look like someone is ahead of the tally when he isn't, inciting players voting for the real tally leader, to unvote.
ATPG, you should have a ruling against people making illegal votes. My opinion anyway.
Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 06:47
Ugh.... Betting more credits than you actually have, should not be allowed. It's similar to tally manipulation, which is frowned upon. I can see how players can take advantage of this, placing large bets, making it look like someone is ahead of the tally when he isn't, inciting players voting for the real tally leader, to unvote.
ATPG, you should have a ruling against people making illegal votes. My opinion anyway.
If you check the rules, such "bluff" wagers are in fact legal. They will simply not be counted as what they're written as, and the true amount will be revealed in the tally.
Earthling
05-08-2011, 06:49
That part at least has been in the rules the whole time since the start though, you can bet more than you have as long as it's under the "Day's maximum". Perhaps enough people didn't read them and realize why these max/near max bets continue to be totally against the town no matter who is bet on or who gets lynched, but I for one have said it over and over again. We'll have to actually see if dcmort or a couple of those others did really have all those credits available to wager too though, I'll be out no matter what happens and might have more to say.
edit - xpost
Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 06:51
This is what I have for the tally. Spot an error, speak now.
(SANTA'S VODKA)
Visorslash: Visorslash, DE, Believer
Greyblades: Greyblades
Backwards Logic: Renata, BL, Fluffy, Autolycus, DIY, shlin, Skooma, Earthling, Ironside
Renata: Mythmonster, Beefy
(GAG)
Renata: Renata, Mythmonster, Beefy, shlin28
Shlin: Earthling
(TANOOKI SUIT)
Visorslash: Visorslash
Greyblades: Greyblades, Diamondeye
shlin: Renata, Skooma, shlin, Ironside
Backwards Logic: BL, Fluffy, Autolycus, DIY, Earthling
Renata: Mythmonster, Beefy
(LUCKY BADGE)
Visorslash: Visorslash, Psychonaut, Greyblades
Renata: Renata, Myth, Believer, Beefy
Backwards Logic: BL, Fluffy, Autolycus, DIY, shlin, Skooma, Ironside
shlin: Earthling
(OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE)
Psychonaut: Psychonaut, Visorslash, Diamondeye,
Backwards Logic: Renata, shlin, Skooma, DIY
Renata: Mythmonster, Beefy
Shlin: Earthling
(CUSTOM BERETTA)
DIY: DIY
Renata: Mythmonster, Beefy
Backwards Logic: Earthling, BL, shlin, Ironside
(JEDI HOLOCRON)
Diamondeye: DE, Visorslash, Renata, Psychonaut, shlin, Believer
BL: Earthling
Chaotix: Chaotix
Myth: Myth
Renata: Beefy
(KILLER RABBIT)
Renata: Mythmonster, Beefy
Backwards Logic: Earthling, BL, shlin, Ironside
(SECURITY FORCEFIELD)
Believer: Believer, Visorslash, DE, Renata
Visorslash: Psychonaut, Greyblades
Backwards Logic: BL, DIY, shlin, Skooma, Earthling, Ironside
Renata: Mythmonster, Beefy
B_Ray: B_Ray
LYNCH
Earthling: 120 (2 Visorslash, 40 dcmort, 39 Psychonaut, 19 CR, 20 Autolycus :skull:
Mythmonster: 87 (4 Renata, 10 GE, 1 Romanic, 4 DE, 5 Skooma, 15 ACIN, 5 Ironside
20 Greyblades, 5 Shlin, 13 Earthling) 3 DIY
Renata: (3 Chaotix)
Visorslash: (20 Link)
Skooma Addict: (50 Mythmonster,
Autolycus: (1 believer
If you check the rules, such "bluff" wagers are in fact legal. They will simply not be counted as what they're written as, and the true amount will be revealed in the tally.
Okay, I missed that rule apparently. :embarassed:
Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 07:17
DAY FIVE
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And so it was, on the 18th hour of the fifth day since they traveled to The Purgatory, that the one known as Earthling would finally receive the justice he so richly deserved, or at least that is what most everyone thought. And spotteth twice they the camels before the third hour. And so the Midianites went forth to Ram Gilead in Kadesh Bilgemath by Shor Ethra Regalion, to the house of Gash-Bil-Betheul-Bazda, he who brought the butter dish to Balshazar and the tent peg to the house of Rashomon, and there slew they the goats, yea, and placed they the bits in little pots.
Angelic One: "Who is it you have determined through logic and reason to be guilty?"
And so the peasants pointed to the one known as Earthling that is called Earthling.
But Earthling was not amused, and he shouted out at them, and called them all silly Kniggits. This did not persuade the crowd to spare his life, and so they advanced. He stood his ground.
Angelic One: "Earthling, you have been judged to be a criminally psychotic chaotic, and also a witch. How do you plead?"
Earthling just stared back in silence.
Angelic One: "I said, how do you plead?"
More silence.
Angelic One: "You are indeed brave, sir Knight, but I must inform you that you're going to die."
Earthling stared off, not even acknowledging the Angelic One.
Angelic One: "Do you have any last words?"
Earthling: None shall pass.
Angelic One: "What?"
Earthling: None shall pass!
Angelic One: "Interesting. Very well, seize him."
And so the entire mob descended upon Earthling, bashing him with clubs, slashing him with claws, firing bullets at him, but nothing seemed to faze the Knight. Finally, the Angelic One unsheathed a gigantic blade, and prepared to cleave the Knight into pieces.
The Angel slashed at Earthling, cutting off his remaining arm. The Angel sheathed his sword again, and stood victorious. But Earthling kicked him in the head, sending him sprawling to the ground.
Angelic One: "The battle is mine. Stop this foolishness."
Earthling: "Ooooh, had enough eh?"
Angelic One: "Stop that."
Earthling: "Chicken! CHICKEN!!! BRAWWKKK BUCK BUCK BUCK BRAWWWK!"
Angelic One: "It's over, I've won."
Earthling: "No you haven't."
Angelic One: "Look you stupid idiot, you've got no arms left!"
Earthling: "Yes I have!"
Angelic One: "LOOK!!!"
Earthling: "It's just a flesh wound. Come on, ya pansy!"
And so the Angelic one unsheathed his sword and cleaved off Earthling's leg.
Angelic One: "There. Now, do you yield?"
Earthling: "I'M INVINCIBLE!!!"
Angelic One: "Right. I'll have your other leg."
And so the Angelic one cleaved off Earthling's other leg.
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Earthling: "What do you say we call it a draw?"
The Angelic One just walked away, completely annoyed.
______________________________
Summary of events:
Earthling has been lynched!
Earthling is The Black Knight Who Always Triumphs, of the Python Mafia Faction!
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Earthling is Evil!
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10 of Hearts
Earthling has survived the lynch!
Alive Players- (32/50)
A completely inoffensive name
Autolycus
B_Ray2 (Replacing Methos)
Backwards Logic (revived)
Beefy187
Believer
Bow-wow-wow
Chaotix
classical_hero2 (Replacing El Barto)
Crazed Rabbit
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Earthling (Survived Lynch!)
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
landlubber
Link
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Warman
Deceased-
Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?108584-The-Full-Monty-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Hearts
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) Ace of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three
choxorn- Satanic Choir Director James Marshall [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Spades
Zack- Klingon Assassin [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia V- Star Trek (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Spades
-------------Night Three
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four
Beskar- Detective Psycho Andy [Neutral] Psychotic Mafia (Psycho Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 5 of Diamonds
Jolt- Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded [Neutral] Space Mafia (Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Clubs
Captain Blackadder2- Claire Raval [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 5 of Spades
-------------Night Four
(No one)
-------------Day Five
Earthling was successfully lynched, but was of Evil alignment. Everyone who wagered this round lost their wagers. Anyone who did not wager lost 1 credit.
Even if Earthling did not survive the lynch, you would have lost the credits anyway due to his alignment.
Begin Night Five.
Earthling
05-08-2011, 07:21
Hot dang, that's even better than I thought. This is madness though, I really didn't know my survival talent could apply to the lynch too before just tonight. However I still owe you all this, obviously some of it doesn't quite apply, willing to talk more on whatever later. I am honestly down to my last mans though.
All right, so here’s what I have to explain, and read closely or don’t bother to read and respond at all.
Apparently my overall survivability talent gives me a chance of surviving lynches as well. I literally didn’t think that was true at all till getting a message just before the end of this Day Five. Now I know lots of people won’t believe this and that’s fine, I realize the town is going to need me dead now too in all likelihood.
So there’s only two possible ways the town can possibly get out of this and move on, because lynching me tomorrow would be such a horrible waste of time that it can’t be allowed it to happen, and I realize that too. The first possibility is if we somehow have near universal agreement (like 15+ players giving their word) that you won’t try to lynch me tomorrow because you don’t believe I’m chaotic. That’d be great, I’m still quite clearly not a chaotic. Possibility two is also clear- someone kills me tonight.
I highly doubt the former is going to happen, obviously. So please, somebody manage to kill me tonight, I’m encouraging even any evil player to do so and the scum get a free shot at me now if they want to take it. As you can see I’m even out of credits and any dinky (hooves) little hope that the Python faction still has is not going to rest with me, there’s not been much good for a couple days when the scum have stolen my stuff and all I can do is self-defend myself. Then there’s far less good if this continues to be a distraction for the town and waste of credits. So we have to do what’s right for the anti-chaotic cause as the whole.
As such I’m not even going to use my active self-protection ability, and then anyone out there should have a very good chance of killing me. Scum can come at me too and I’ll soak up another of their nightkills just as I’ve been happy to do this whole time. (Unless the first option above becomes feasible for some reason and then of course I’d try to stay alive). If I die I will be an evil Python mafia, I’m not denying that as it’s been true this whole time, but that can happen at this point and it’s important to have that info verified for everyone, it has to be this way.
I especially encourage Renata & co. to try to be the one who kills me, prove they’re in it for the townie good and you know, because I move for no man.
Also, I don’t see a reason I should be saying anything more to random people with worthless vague statements tonight, so I won’t, except to people making reasonable responses to this post.
I really didn't know my survival talent could apply to the lynch too before just tonight.
Implying the same talent is helping you survive lynches and night attacks (?).
As such I’m not even going to use my active self-protection ability
And now you're saying that a self-protection ability is helping you survive at night, clearly this cannot be the same talent that helped you survive the lynch.
Can you be clear on your talents? And don't lie this time, please :beam:
Earthling
05-08-2011, 07:36
I didn't even know how things worked myself, apparently.
https://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8454/shrug.jpg (https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/shrug.jpg/)
Is this your answer to my request to be clearer about your talents?
Earthling
05-08-2011, 07:49
No, that was more just I gotta go now (my planet needs me) and coincidentally found a funny image, and a bunch of other people may have honest stuff to ask later that I might as well manage it all later, let everyone respond. I can say two things to you though - one, as I explained way earlier, I spent credits on extra protection through the regular purchase abilities, see the opening page, and "levelled up" that skill too as you'll read in the rules. Secondly, the part about me not knowing anything about what would happen when I was lynched I'll reiterate, surprised me. Otherwise, obviously due to the writeup info there's a change of plans and I might as well try to protect myself and remain alive now, and won't be answering anything that helps the scum in that way if I can avoid it, just in general on that too since I think that addresses your question
Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 08:25
an error in the item vote tally has been ID'ed.
Fixing.
EDIT: FIXED. Backwards Logic rightfully owns the Omega Virus Sample, not Psychonaut, due to a misplaced DIY vote.
Believer
05-08-2011, 09:51
I never thought I could be unhappy with a town surviving a lynch.
There is a time for everything.
I thought the writeup was hilarious. Kudos ATPG.
Lol @ Believer.
May I ask that I am not targeted by vigs tonight. And I ask whether someone could kindly hand me a bulletproof item?
Ooh, so asking for item works? :laugh4:
May I have a bulletproof item to augment my self-protect tonight? Pretty sure I am Target No. 2 for the chaotics now...
God Emperor
05-08-2011, 11:23
You are lying through your teeth Earthling.
Who cares. He's town ain't he?
God Emperor
05-08-2011, 11:27
No that is my point.. I really doubt now that he is town.. We lynch a guy, he survives, and we get his role.. This guy we apparently won't die from night attacks either. The obvious conclusion is that what we have been given is his cover role. Lynch him again, and we should have his real role.
Death is yonder
05-08-2011, 11:37
Earthling was successfully lynched, but was of Evil alignment. Everyone who wagered this round lost their wagers. Anyone who did not wager lost 1 credit.
Even if Earthling did not survive the lynch, you would have lost the credits anyway due to his alignment.
Major. Distraction.
Death is yonder
05-08-2011, 11:42
In any case, its time to move on and start hunting actual suspects rather than trying to clear up the fall out from previous rounds, which will just end up helping chaotic scums to blend in easily.
I mean like if the whole debate is MRD versus Earthling or something like that, how hard can it be to just come in and say "Oh I think that Earthling/MRD seems scummier than the other for so and so reason which was stated by [insert player who posted case]" and then just fade away
Okay, some questions for Earthling, because frankly he needs to give some answers now.
1. If you are pro-town, why are you now trying to get yourself killed? Your survival ability sounds pretty powerful to me... and begging for death is not exactly a pro-town thing to do.
2. Again, your life has been on the line for many times now, how hard it is to reveal basically everything you know? IF you want to die, why are you not revealing anything now? At the very least, reveal what you did each night phase, what happened to you and exactly what abilities/items you have. Since you want to essentially commit suicide, there's no harm done is there?
3. Also, why have you dodged a lot of the questions I asked before? I tried to make them reasonable, but after 3 attempts even I am getting frustrated at you now.
You want to present an anti-chaotic front, now is your chance to really show that you are on the town's side.
Edit: DiY brings up a good point. Earthling is possibly innocent, but we need answers regardless!
a completely inoffensive name
05-08-2011, 11:45
So maybe we are all going to follow my advice that I posted waaaay back when to think beyond the 8 people that contribute a lot of posts as a source of chaotics?
READ THIS.
So please, somebody manage to kill me tonight, I’m encouraging even any evil player to do so and the scum get a free shot at me now if they want to take it. As you can see I’m even out of credits and any dinky (hooves) little hope that the Python faction still has is not going to rest with me, there’s not been much good for a couple days when the scum have stolen my stuff and all I can do is self-defend myself. Then there’s far less good if this continues to be a distraction for the town and waste of credits. So we have to do what’s right for the anti-chaotic cause as the whole.
As such I’m not even going to use my active self-protection ability, and then anyone out there should have a very good chance of killing me. Scum can come at me too and I’ll soak up another of their nightkills just as I’ve been happy to do this whole time. (Unless the first option above becomes feasible for some reason and then of course I’d try to stay alive). If I die I will be an evil Python mafia, I’m not denying that as it’s been true this whole time, but that can happen at this point and it’s important to have that info verified for everyone, it has to be this way.
I especially encourage Renata & co. to try to be the one who kills me, prove they’re in it for the townie good and you know, because I move for no man.
Do NOT kill Earthling tonight. There's something that needs to be discussed first. The original role of the Black Knight had to win by "dying" X number of times. Until Earthling survived the lynch it never occurred to me this role might possibly be the same, but it could be, and him asking for *both* vigs and hopefully scum to come after him tonight is more than just a little bit suggestive.
Hugely important question: Were any of the attacks on Earthling solicited by him? Did he tell anyone to attack him?
His comments post-attacks also need to be looked at.
Renata, still think I'm scum?
Ask me again tomorrow, right now my brain is not working.
Earthling needs a full detective scan done on him tonight, please. I think it's worth it the credits. If I'm right, he can be safely ignored. If I'm wrong and he's town he can be safely ignored. If I'm wrong and he's mafia, you can lynch him and then me next for being a lunatic. He's been attacked (or lynched) and survived three times now.
I'm busy again today, back tomorrow.
Death is yonder
05-08-2011, 12:17
The host himself confirmed that he is evil aligned anyway. At the very most your paranoia would be serving to possibly hinder his personal goal (if that is indeed how it came about)
No need to waste credits, enough has been spent on earthling.
God Emperor
05-08-2011, 12:28
Yes it is correct. What DiY points out in the writeup, should rule out the necessity for a scan.
That's what you get for not listening to me, a bunch of wasted credits. Serves you all right.
That's what you get for not listening to me, a bunch of wasted credits. Serves you all right.
Hey hey Beskar. Don't worry about these stupid living people. Life is wasted on the living anyways. Death is where all the fun stuff begins.
Come, I know a good pancake shop named the El Gigante.
Major Robert Dump
05-08-2011, 14:28
Now I see why he has been so annoying, why he lies and gets people lynched, then lies about that as well: he wants to die. Would have been nice for him to mention his "ability" in his claim, but I guess thats what I get for not reading every game synopsis that the host provided, just like people didn't read the one for my character. Either way, well played Her Majesty
And yes, it is IMO too far into the game to suddenly allow item transfers, particularly in the manner being allowed. Would have been nice to have been doing this all along as it will have huge impacts on outcomes in both night phases and voting manipulation
Now I see why he has been so annoying, why he lies and gets people lynched, then lies about that as well: he wants to die. Would have been nice for him to mention his "ability" in his claim, but I guess thats what I get for not reading every game synopsis that the host provided, just like people didn't read the one for my character. Either way, well played Her Majesty
And yes, it is IMO too far into the game to suddenly allow item transfers, particularly in the manner being allowed. Would have been nice to have been doing this all along as it will have huge impacts on outcomes in both night phases and voting manipulation
Yeap, but fortunately, now noone will listen to him. Leave Earthling egging around and making non-senseless comments and accusations until the end of the game. He shall be this game's village idiot. :P
I would seriously advocate the killing of Greyblades or autolycus. Very especially Greyblades.
Do NOT kill Earthling tonight. There's something that needs to be discussed first. The original role of the Black Knight had to win by "dying" X number of times. Until Earthling survived the lynch it never occurred to me this role might possibly be the same, but it could be, and him asking for *both* vigs and hopefully scum to come after him tonight is more than just a little bit suggestive.
Hugely important question: Were any of the attacks on Earthling solicited by him? Did he tell anyone to attack him?
His comments post-attacks also need to be looked at.
He did dare me and CR to vig kill him the night I was murdered. He was saying that if we didn't we'd be clearly implicated as scum (In another one of his brilliant logical leaps).
Greyblades
05-08-2011, 16:02
Yeap, but fortunately, now noone will listen to him. Leave Earthling egging around and making non-senseless comments and accusations until the end of the game. He shall be this game's village idiot. :P
I would seriously advocate the killing of Greyblades or autolycus. Very especially Greyblades.
And I hope my 10% retribution item kills you in a cruel and unusual way.
Earthling
05-08-2011, 18:33
Nothing that needs to be addressed so far but there may be one or two Innocents among the scum who want to pretend not to read so I'll do it anyway. I prepared that statement after being told I could survive the lynch but I didn't expect my role info would be revealed - if it was just "Earthling survived the lynch, and that's all" that was what needed to be said for the town to move on. I said I was going to post it anyway and even put it into a little extra quote block to facilitate reading, but you know, scum can't read this game. And I already clearly said what actually happened in the writeup changes the strategy. God Emperor, up like 20 spots on the scum rankings but that's obvious. Shlin, I continue to not know what the heck you think you are asking about, because I've answered everything you've asked that I can answer, and I'm not in the loop on others' night actions or the Grand Alliance of Renata's Factionmates.
As for dead neutrals + scum: Yes, you were lying about everything and wanted to deny my role was my role and that I was attacked at night. So duh, Jolt, I told you or remaining likely scum like CR or anyone to try and detective scan me or attack me if you dared and then you'd have your proof.
Earthling
05-08-2011, 19:32
Actually I ought to share one thing with you guys for full disclosure. There's something in the write-up which while ok does not match what I honestly feel is correct and I'm happy to share it to help everyone to a better understanding of what's going on. What's in the dialogue is not how you call a chicken. What I should have said is "Scootalooooo, Scoot Scootaloooo"
Also, I wonder where Subotan has been this whole time, expected he might have voted on me, was he silenced? I'd forgotten about that, but it seems like we've had nobody silenced in a couple of days. Either the scum gave up on silencing (the second silencer presumably, we have had the one item obviously floating about and unused of course too for a couple days) or people are not coming forward anymore, but given that, and if nobody steps forward tonight, I'd be skeptical of future silencing claims. Everybody needs to show up everyday though.
Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 19:33
And yes, it is IMO too far into the game to suddenly allow item transfers, particularly in the manner being allowed.
:wall:
Items being in the game and the ability to claim them from the dead is directly ripped off from NOTW-style games. I thought it was understood how items worked, but I do notice that while items and voting items are mentioned in the rules, mechanics for transferring items are not.
This is an oversight on my part. It was foolish of me to just assume people knew they could transfer items; there's a rule that you can't transfer credits besides stealing them, but no rule against transferring items.
If people wish, I can remove item transfers from the game, as it wasn't at all clear that they were in the game to begin with. Chalk this one up to sloppy preparation.
:shrug: I don't really care whether we can transfer items or not.
Also, I wonder where Subotan has been this whole time, expected he might have voted on me, was he silenced? I'd forgotten about that, but it seems like we've had nobody silenced in a couple of days
Sorry guys, I was afk pretty much all of yesterday and today - I don't lurk as a strategy, as it's cowardly. Had I been online, I would have voted for Earthling.
mythmonster2
05-08-2011, 22:10
O.....K. I don't see anyone claiming that he is, but if you want to say that out of the blue, then go ahead.
Also, fantastic write-up ATPG! Bloody hilarious, that was.
Now I see why he has been so annoying, why he lies and gets people lynched, then lies about that as well: he wants to die.
Actually, he always acts like this.
Greyblades
05-08-2011, 22:34
O.....K. I don't see anyone claiming that he is, but if you want to say that out of the blue, then go ahead.
Jolt was saying he was to be vigilante'd.
thefluffyone93
05-09-2011, 02:00
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Greyblades
05-09-2011, 02:15
Well more of a request, but yeah.
Yeap, but fortunately, now noone will listen to him. Leave Earthling egging around and making non-senseless comments and accusations until the end of the game. He shall be this game's village idiot. :P
I would seriously advocate the killing of Greyblades or autolycus. Very especially Greyblades.
Oh and if any vigilantes are listening; kill jolt, he seems to want me dead as soon as possible yet he only has a flimsy case on me, and if you need any more incentive he's not the one who has a 10% chance of killing you and hasnt spent all his remaining credits on defending himself. So, you know, dont spend a kill on a pointless and potentialy dangerous hit.
Earthling
05-09-2011, 03:22
edit - need to quote this I think so Greyblades doesn't back out:
Well more of a request, but yeah.
Oh and if any vigilantes are listening; kill jolt, he seems to want me dead as soon as possible yet he only has a flimsy case on me, and if you need any more incentive he's not the one who has a 10% chance of killing you and hasnt spent all his remaining credits on defending himself. So, you know, dont spend a kill on a pointless and potentialy dangerous hit.
Ok, killing Greyblades or lynching him tomorrow it is. Or as some might call it, another scum struck down by sudden onset failuretoreaditis. (Jolt is already dead, and he's a neutral, on some other opinions of his he's wrong or still lying to try to help his living faction allies, but your response...)
Believer
05-09-2011, 06:37
edit - need to quote this I think so Greyblades doesn't back out:
Ok, killing Greyblades or lynching him tomorrow it is. Or as some might call it, another scum struck down by sudden onset failuretoreaditis. (Jolt is already dead, and he's a neutral, on some other opinions of his he's wrong or still lying to try to help his living faction allies, but your response...)
I might've missed something, but Greyblades is scum because he failed to remember who was dead?
I thought that might be more of a town-tell, scum should remember who they've killed.
Greyblades
05-09-2011, 10:34
Umm...Uh...well done eathling you saw through my clever plot to... uh... get the mafia, yeah thats it, get the mafia to waste a kill on the dead, uh, thanks by the way for messing that, awesome, and great plan up. Yeah.
I swear, this is becoming a running gag. Thank god any pride I might have had was lost long ago.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
05-09-2011, 20:33
At least I'm still alive :laugh:.
I might've missed something, but Greyblades is scum because he failed to remember who was dead?
I thought that might be more of a town-tell, scum should remember who they've killed.
Jolt might not've been killed by mafia; it's hard to tell. The two characters in the sweepstakes for likeliest to be scum roles (kill attempts for each of them three nights running and counting; can't pin either of them as ATPG-game roles) both attacked other people: neutral Beskar (ha!) and someone who got away (haha!). Bad night for the mafia, quite possibly.
CB's death may have been Beskar himself; the description of a masked chainsaw killer matches his role (Psycho Andy from ATPG's first CFC game); and the pattern of kills from the character (twice in four nights) matches that of someone who had to raise funds first for the second try (and/or whose effectiveness is not guaranteed, as the two "main" killers' seems to be absent successful protections and such).
Jolt's killer I can't identify except that it's likelier than the first two to be a town or neutral player due to the description matching any number of former ATPG mafia roles. Mafia might be able to "vig" as their cover roles (and if they did, another "haha!"), but there are a lot more real roles than cover roles out there.
Which is all a very roundabout way of saying that's probably not a town tell, though neither is it a scum one. What is the case against Grayblades?
Autolycus isn't scum.
That's the second time you've mentioned Autolycus; the first time was completely out of the blue. What is your connection with him?
Should be obvious if you look at his post.
Whose? Humor me; I missed half the weekend.
Humor me
Did you hear about the man who lost his entire left side in a car crash?
Don't worry, he's all right now.
johnhughthom
05-10-2011, 00:54
Did you hear about the man who lost his entire left side in a car crash?
Don't worry, he's all right now.
:stop:
:D
JHT, you don't even want to know what I said about you earlier today.
johnhughthom
05-10-2011, 01:53
:D
JHT, you don't even want to know what I said about you earlier today.
:inquisitive:
thefluffyone93
05-10-2011, 04:10
.................................
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.
Though I know that evenin's empire has returned into sand
Vanished from my hand
Left me blindly here to stand but still not sleeping
My weariness amazes me, I'm branded on my feet
I have no one to meet
And the ancient empty street's too dead for dreaming.
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.
Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship
My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip
My toes too numb to step, wait only for my boot heels
To be wanderin'
I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade
Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way
I promise to go under it.
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.
Though you might hear laughin', spinnin' swingin' madly across the sun
It's not aimed at anyone, it's just escapin' on the run
And but for the sky there are no fences facin'
And if you hear vague traces of skippin' reels of rhyme
To your tambourine in time, it's just a ragged clown behind
I wouldn't pay it any mind, it's just a shadow you're
Seein' that he's chasing.
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.
Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mind
Down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves
The haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beach
Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow
Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free
Silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands
With all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves
Let me forget about today until tomorrow.
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.
Askthepizzaguy
05-10-2011, 06:39
The round has ended, and I have to calculate the results and stuff. Will do ASAP. Don't wait up, I was also thinking about sending out updated role cards to everyone who is still alive, since it's been 5 rounds.
This will probably eat into the day phase, so, I may have to begin the day later on today.
Askthepizzaguy
05-10-2011, 08:38
The round has ended, and I have to calculate the results and stuff. Will do ASAP. Don't wait up, I was also thinking about sending out updated role cards to everyone who is still alive, since it's been 5 rounds.
This will probably eat into the day phase, so, I may have to begin the day later on today.
Yeah, it was a particularly active night and I have a lot of updates to do. I've also already been at this computer for many hours today, and my fingers are cramping up. I will need the extra time.
I could churn out a writeup, but no way could I do the result PMs and Card updates. And I don't want to advance to the day phase without being able to tell you each individually what happened.
It will get better, especially as people keep dying off. Give me until tonight to get this done, since I have a work shift and errands to run.
Take as much time as you want.
Believer
05-10-2011, 09:02
The suspense is killing me!
Diamondeye
05-10-2011, 11:03
The suspense is killing me!
That's what they want you to believe!
Whose? Humor me; I missed half the weekend.
No. If you can take the time to post cases on me and mythmonster, surely you can look up other people's posts. Especially someone with as many posts in this thread as him. What is your point here?
You said "look at his post". Whose post? Auto's or someone else's? What the heck is the big deal about a simple request?
God Emperor
05-10-2011, 20:52
@Greyblades - I, along with Renata, went over your post, and before focusing more on your other posts, there is one in particular I would like you to comment on. I direct you to the following quote:
Eh it was more a jab at how he was giving him items I myself wanted than actual suspicion. Anyway he might not be a townie, remember the town is evil; glorious light doesnt sound very evil, he could have been revived and recruited from a good aligned faction.
This observation is based on the writeup that says 'glorious light' . . We have not vitnessed a good alligned faction at all, so how could you reach an idea that suggests that there is a good alligned faction ? This at least prompted suspicion so we went digging a little further into the matter - from the rules of the game:
Anyone who shares your alignment [evil, chaotic, neutral, etc] will be on your team. For the purposes of a team victory, neutral is considered part of your team, regardless of your team. So they can go both ways. Shifty buggers..
with the 'etc' part from the rules, your suggestion does not even seem impossible.. and if so, then what you perform is an act of PIS in your quote. So could you elaborate on what is going on here ?:)
Greyblades
05-10-2011, 21:56
@Greyblades - I, along with Renata, went over your post, and before focusing more on your other posts, there is one in particular I would like you to comment on. I direct you to the following quote:
This observation is based on the writeup that says 'glorious light' . . We have not vitnessed a good alligned faction at all, so how could you reach an idea that suggests that there is a good alligned faction ? This at least prompted suspicion so we went digging a little further into the matter - from the rules of the game:
Anyone who shares your alignment [evil, chaotic, neutral, etc] will be on your team. For the purposes of a team victory, neutral is considered part of your team, regardless of your team. So they can go both ways. Shifty buggers..
with the 'etc' part from the rules, your suggestion does not even seem impossible.. and if so, then what you perform is an act of PIS in your quote. So could you elaborate on what is going on here ?:)
Assumptions. I was kinda wondering if someone getting resurrected could go badly for the town (for selfish reasons I'll admit - I really wanted that tanooki suit) and my mind got caught on the glorious light bit and how it didn't realy fit with the rest of the game(heck it was in a blue font for crying out loud). If it wasnt for that bit I probably would have written it off as someone trying to set up a town network by getting someone confirmed town to center on; though even then, why they got him instead of, say, seon or the flax is odd.
@ Grayblades:
Your voting history is exceptionally self-interested. All of your item votes with the exception of the attempted "trade" with Visorslash have been for yourself, and most have been for self-defense or retaliation items. You placed no lynching votes for the first few days (but some of those item votes came during this period). You did vote Earthling early yesterday (and a big bet at that), but retracted it once the bandwagon on mythmonster got started. Specifically, you retracted it at a point where your unvote put mythmonster ahead of Earthling in the tally. You voted mythmonster yourself later, but only after he had implied he'd been willing to vig you. I'd like to hear what you were thinking through that period.
Greyblades
05-10-2011, 22:33
I'd like to hear what you were thinking through that period.
Honestly? First 2-3 days; "I gotta survive until the mafia's comeback is over so I can concentrate on this game."
After that it was mostly "I've found out my hidden talent was a bulletproof ability, but its not 100% I need to reenforce it before acting and attracting attention from any mafia/wannabe vigilantes" and "That guy tried to kill me!"
I meant the large bet on Earthling, and retracting it without immediately voting for mythmonster (or anyone else) instead. Unless that's what you meant by "survive without attracting attention".
Greyblades
05-10-2011, 22:42
The night before that someone stole a load of my credits, I had been hording it for item steals and after that I tried to get it back by getting lucky by betting large on what I thought was an almost confirmed chaotic,but I got cold feet as I was betting almost all my credits on him.
Then mythmonster said he had tried to kill me but failed due to getting the order in late, yet I still got a post saying I was attacked that night (incidentaly thats what revealed my hidden talent) so not only had he tried to kill me, I believed he lied about not being able to, so I bet on him.
mythmonster2
05-11-2011, 00:00
Then mythmonster said he had tried to kill me but failed due to getting the order in late, yet I still got a post saying I was attacked that night (incidentaly thats what revealed my hidden talent) so not only had he tried to kill me, I believed he lied about not being able to, so I bet on him.
Which night was this again? Night 3 was the one which I was unable to put in orders due to lateness, and you were my target from Ren that day.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 00:39
Yeah night 3.
mythmonster2
05-11-2011, 01:29
In that case, I would either think that Renata set more than one person on you, or you just got targeted by someone else.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 01:47
...Hrm... You wouldnt happen to know why she sent you after me before I acted up?
Because at that point you were doing nothing at all but voting yourself an item every so often.
It's not quite that simple, but it'll do.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 02:08
And what? You'd kill me instead of asking me why I wasn't being active or telling me to be more active? Charming.
I know; it's terrible of me isn't it.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 02:26
:smartass: Nice to know mythmonster isn't important enough to keep out of danger.
I actually don't know what you're referring to there.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 02:41
Heh, it seems carelessness is not an ailment I suffer alone.
Think back to my outburst over jolt, then look over the summary thread, I'm sure you'll figure it out.
Anyone else wants to try to do what I'm trying to do, be my guest.
Major Robert Dump
05-11-2011, 02:55
I heard that everyone died last night
Earthling
05-11-2011, 02:56
Oh that's beyond scummy Greyblades. First you told Renata to go see the Day Two item tally specifically, to see the Cartoon Mallet you were voted and makes up your oh-so-fearsome retaliation, but now you just want to confuse her with something vague? Though at this point it doesn't matter for tonight, night orders were locked and any of us could be dead tomorrow and make this little argument moot. You're at the point of full reveal or die territory to me though.
As for Renata - "not quite that simple" means "I left out the part where I'm only trying to get power for my faction and its allies and kill our factional rivals" right? You, Believer, Bow-wow-wow, all this scan info you have both has yielded no results yet and it's detrimental to the town not to share and coordinate, but you each must just be after getting only your own faction together. That's going to kill the town and we all know it at this point.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 03:04
...Thanks Earthling, I was trying to play the guy with all the cards routine but you just have to be a party pooper.
Reneta you sent mythmonster to kill me even though it was known I had a chance of killing him, either you didn't remember it or you didnt care if he died, considering what little I know of your play style I'm inclined to think the latter.
mythmonster2
05-11-2011, 03:07
Ah the joys of being completely out of the loop and not knowing what anyone is talking about.
Ah the joys of being completely out of the loop and not knowing what anyone is talking about.
I will do the summary of the collective contributions in a manner you may understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTjr_oCo6uU
Anyone else wants to try to do what I'm trying to do, be my guest.
Lead the town in circles, making them waste lynches on obvious fail-wagons and making sure chaotics are not lynched or night killed?
I think you are doing a great job of it.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 03:23
Beskar, you and Jolt are both failing with this dead neutral thing, that's not helping the town either. Seems a very good chance the Space Mafia and Psychotic Mafia are enemies (would be lovely mythmonster if you could reveal that again though, your enemies already know who you are, it'd just be helping third party townies) and while you dead guys can't reveal that you are trying to get people killed on that basis.
Though Renata has ended up with like a 20:1 "Renata spends credits to start a wagon, folds, and lets other people waste theirs" ratio. On top of getting other people to use their night actions and presumably a lot of credits for her. That also has an easy solution that should have happened yesterday though, if she's not killed tonight and if Innocent now might be about the time that happens anyway, which is that we get her to make and stick to a full bet against our chaotic candidate tomorrow.
Greyblades
05-11-2011, 03:23
Lead the town in circles, making them waste lynches on obvious fail-wagons and making sure chaotics are not lynched or night killed?
I think you are doing a great job of it.
There wasnt a portal mafia that was included in the lineup by any chance? I think I found GLaDOS.
Beskar, you and Jolt are both failing with this dead neutral thing, that's not helping the town either.
Isn't the whole point of neutrals that they dont have to help anyone?
Beskar, you and Jolt are both failing with this dead neutral thing, that's not helping the town either. Seems a very good chance the Space Mafia and Psychotic Mafia are enemies (would be lovely mythmonster if you could reveal that again though, your enemies already know who you are, it'd just be helping third party townies) and while you dead guys can't reveal that you are trying to get people killed on that basis.
Though Renata has ended up with like a 20:1 "Renata spends credits to start a wagon, folds, and lets other people waste theirs" ratio. On top of getting other people to use their night actions and presumably a lot of credits for her. That also has an easy solution that should have happened yesterday though, if she's not killed tonight and if Innocent now might be about the time that happens anyway, which is that we get her to make and stick to a full bet against our chaotic candidate tomorrow.
Actually, best thing for the "town" would be to revive me, you would actually start seeing dead chaotics. I mean, if some one actually bothered to read my "death" and the posts afterwards then it would simply be a no brainer that I should be revived a.s.a.p ...
Say, how did Renata end up forming a posse to do her bidding? I missed the sign-ups, apparently.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 03:40
She's either scum, or just found a couple of faction allies, but it's a very good point. No information about herself has been revealed and she can't be doing that in private by the rules. Though I think taking strategic advantage of the first failed MRD lynch helped, with choxorn, Zack, myself etc... being other Innocents she and Romanichine or whomever else tried to slip in and take control of the night actions. But really, nobody else should be doing Renata's bidding, there isn't a great reason to trust her and she's lied more than me this game for instance, I'm amazed that someone like mythmonster even tried. I'm willing to give her a shot at being Innocent (and Believer or Roman or a couple folks allied with Renata because they have faction scan info and alliances in private) but you know I've been after that for a couple days.
But don't act all high and might B_Ray, you've already gotten one Innocent killed for factional gains and are hiding scan results of your own, especially vital info on the Cosa Nostra faction, and that's on top of whatever info you passed around about your old Monty Python role without even backing me up on my obviously true claim now.
Actually, I am going to throw my hat into the ring, I am highly suggest people take a good look at it.
I want you to carefully read this passage:
Beskar was walking through the city, eyeing his surroundings. He felt as though he was being followed. He expected that, and knew it was coming.
He knew his lucky badge wouldn't let him down. That's why when he felt a long sword impale him through the chest, and stared into the green, burning eyes of his attacker, he simply grinned.
Then he felt the blood pour down his body. He couldn't understand what was happening.... surely this could not be happening, not to him. Didn't they realize? Didn't they realize what they HAD DONE???
"You'll pay the price.... for your..... BETRAYAL!!!!" shouted Beskar, as the Omega Virus took control of his body. He began to transform, from a normal human being, into a gigantic titan of terrifying strength, unstoppable power.
"VENGANZA!!! VENGANZA!!!" the creature shouted, burning with rage and hatred.
The green-eyed swordsman stood back, and lifted a hand. A massive Flare engulfed Beskar, causing him to writhe in pain. Then, the swordsman went in for the kill, and began hacking the giant to bits, starting with the legs.
The Beskar creature swung its massive fists, even landing several blows, but the green eyed swordsman was far more powerful than he appeared. Nothing could damage him......
Beskar roared with rage at the betrayal.... and shouted out his name with all his hatred.... but no one could understand what Beskar was saying.
The swordsman jumped atop Beskar's chest and decapitated him, ending his life, and his struggle, permanently. The green eyed figure walked away with a smirk.
Have you noticed it yet? What was Beskar's reaction? What was Beskar saying? Does that mean...! ?
I mean, I did everything I could within the rules, and it was glorious. I did a wonderful reply, I did amazing things, and what happened? Why wasn't a chaotic killed?
Yes, that is right, you have been fooled at the start.
Perhaps you need the truth, some one with the right answers. Perhaps should lick your lips and open your message inbox to the great host, and the first thing that should be on the tip of your tongue is this:
Beskar
You want to get away from this choatic town leadership, put power in the hands of some one who knows what they are doing and will deliver real accusations and showing real results.
Do you want your name listed as "Winner" and not "Loser" ?
There is one name that can solve that for you, and more.
Beskar
Get writing that pm and get that name revived, because you don't just want it, you sorely need it.
Trust me, you will get your credits back and more, it will be known as AskthepizzaguyII-gate.
:smartass: Nice to know mythmonster isn't important enough to keep out of danger.
You had already heavily bet on Earthling (Probably with the intention of showing to the town that you couldn't be scummy because you were voting for the same guy who was - supposedly - lynched). Then the Earthling bandwagon started losing gas up to the point where it seemed that myth might be able to overtake Earthling in credits. myth then said he preferred to die instead of Earthling. Earthling was the perfect lynchbait and since his bandwagon was losing gas, you used myth's post, which showed nothing out of the ordinary, to make one of the most extremely scummy post I have seen: You simply put a frowning smiley and changed your bet to myth, nonetheless lowering your bet amount. There is nothing in that post that would make a person who bet 40 credits on Earthling change the vote. You're a mafioso.
But don't act all high and might B_Ray, you've already gotten one Innocent killed for factional gains and are hiding scan results of your own, especially vital info on the Cosa Nostra faction, and that's on top of whatever info you passed around about your old Monty Python role without even backing me up on my obviously true claim now.
Hey, I'm not pretending to be saintly, but I'll make a couple clarifications. I never claimed YLC was a factional rival; he just wasn't on my faction. I don't see the point in publicly announcing scan results when they don't prove anything about the player's actual alignment; all it's likely to do is get players vigilanteed. Unless you see some way that it will actually help the town win? And I don't know what you're trying to imply in the last bit. I never knew any Python members before I got killed (on the first night) so there's nothing about them I could have shared. Why was I supposed to back you up as a member of my current faction?
Earthling
05-11-2011, 04:11
You knew I was Python because I claimed things that should have only been knowable through the Python faction PM, like the Python's enemies being Dark Falls and Bizarro. It was the same thing Blackadder did to help MRD for no reason, and then he disappeared and died, but at least he was honest and maybe you could say honorable about it, helping his former Bizarro team.
But really, YLC wasn't even a rival of yours now? When people make scummy, terrible arguments all around, they can't all be scum, but you're killing the town here. It would be hugely beneficial to know which players are of which factions publicly at this point, could explain a lot of votes/night actions/whatever based on factional vengeance and would narrow down where chaotics could be. Otherwise, we go into like one possible endgame - the remaining chaotics, and a big faction or two like South Park or this Cosa Nostra who had the fortune of none of their guys dying, duke it out for total victory, and the rest of us are completely defeated.
Beskar for the record I do agree with the suggestion you might have been one of the killers (chainsaw) as a neutral and could be a powerful role to revive or know the identity of a chaotic that killed you, but have no credits or connections to get it done, and our reviver still might be better off bringing back an evil character at least (they could also just continue to try and straight out revive faction allies alone)
Beskar for the record I do agree with the suggestion you might have been one of the killers (chainsaw) as a neutral and could be a powerful role to revive or know the identity of a chaotic that killed you, but have no credits or connections to get it done, and our reviver still might be better off bringing back an evil character at least (they could also just continue to try and straight out revive faction allies alone)
Huh? Where you digging things from.
At least the second half looks very plausible, but there is far more than that. Trust me, I am on a warpath, and the game is called "The Revengening", you will be seeing a lot of dead anti-mafia with my revival. What would reviving a no-body do when you have one of the best mafia players with the keys of victory for the mafia-faction in his hands?
If you look back, perhaps you might actually re-see when I role revealed, I don't remember chainsaw's being involved at all.
For free:
I will throw in an ingame behind the scenes game analysis to why the mafia ('townies') majorly screwed up and why and how Dr. Beskar will lead them to salvation.*
*Free when I am not gagged by rules (ie: revived) and not post-game when it becomes obvious.
Kagemusha
05-11-2011, 04:34
Forget about Beskar and revive me and i will promise you a terror campaign against the chaotic. I simply dot understand why you people dont take the credits and lynch Renata. The hit on Greyblades doesnt seem to be based on anything other then to an wish to get one more player dead and out of the way. Dont vig Renata but lynch her and get some credits.
Forget about Beskar and revive me and i will promise you a terror campaign against the chaotic. I simply dot understand why you people dont take the credits and lynch Renata. The hit on Greyblades doesnt seem to be based on anything other then to an wish to get one more player dead and out of the way. Dont vig Renata but lynch her and get some credits.
I will revive you myself Kage when I get revived. I need some one I can trust as a partner.
How about that? Two revives for the price of one.
thefluffyone93
05-11-2011, 04:39
I say we revive Seon.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 04:51
I simply dot understand why you people dont take the credits and lynch Renata.
Don't want to wear out the shrugging image now do we?
But yes, I for one have been quite clear that Renata needs a full role reveal or I'm not trusting her, she still ignored me in public here since Day Four, but she needs to either fess up to all the faction rivalry business she must be doing if Innocent...or she's not Innocent. Looking back at Day Five actually appears incredibly sneaky to me now because she seemed to try to bring a serious case on mythmonster, and really if scum she would have abandoned me to the wolves entirely and we both mutually knew that as I messaged her about it, so when I thought she was seriously going to try to get mythmonster lynched it was maybe mistaken townie reasoning but she'd have to be townie to not go after me. The fold-unvotes by Renata and Roman and me actually getting the lynch look bad in retrospect though, together they went from 50 credits on mythmonster and mythmonster being lynched, the person they were openly campaigning against, to almost none (only 5) of their own credits and everybody else's credits wasted. Yet Renata didn't count on the fact that both me and her didn't know I could survive a lynch and continue to denounce her another day, because I really thought I would die in a lynch that day and told her that too she probably only planned for that contigency. :laugh4:
Which reminds me especially with the other player curiousity's of Greyblades/dead people whatever that Renata is definitely of the Space Mafia faction, I might as well reveal it publicly now, it feels like the right thing to do, she was faction scanned Night Three and the result should be from a correct source, the only way it's not is if she bus-drivered herself or has a cover role or something. A fair number of people should have known this in private and Renata was supposed to have a fair chance to explain her motives but it's not happening, and if Believer or Roman or whomever are faction allies they are stonewalling it too.
I do think the death of Jolt (a powerful, semi-killer on her own faction) spooked her too and that sparked some changes in plans since before that night. She also seems to want to imply that while the Bizarros want the Spacers dead it's not mutual (so the Space faction would have 2 different enemies) which is interesting and something we desperately need to know about all the faction balance, if there are non-mutual rivalries going on. Again all we know for sure are the Pythons and Bizarros mutually hating each other, we Pythons find Dark Falls too Dark, and the Bizarros don't like Space. But all of this needs to be getting public soon.
To do list:
Revive Beskar and Kage
Bet all credits on Renata.
(If I don't die. If I do, I have sent instructions to people I trust).
Also, can I ask whether I can post PM's from other people in the thread and in other PM's?
Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 06:37
I was looking forward to updating this when I got home from work, only to be called in to work again that same night, and I work even earlier tomorrow.
This is all very embarrassing, and I apologize.
Also, can I ask whether I can post PM's from other people in the thread and in other PM's?
Sure, you can quote other people.
No problems. I logged on and thought, !$@% I'm dead when I had no PM from you, and then I checked the thread and nothing had happened. :P
Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 06:51
I know, but I never take this long with my mafia updates, and it is holding up people who want to host after me. This game was a bit ambitious for my schedule, as it goes from really not busy with 4 hour shifts to really stupidly busy with 10 hour closing shifts followed by 10 hour opening shifts with little time in betwixt for sleep.
And of course, everyone has to have actions, so it takes 10 times longer than a normal mafia update.
Ironside
05-11-2011, 07:49
I do think the death of Jolt (a powerful, semi-killer on her own faction) spooked her too and that sparked some changes in plans since before that night. She also seems to want to imply that while the Bizarros want the Spacers dead it's not mutual (so the Space faction would have 2 different enemies) which is interesting and something we desperately need to know about all the faction balance, if there are non-mutual rivalries going on. Again all we know for sure are the Pythons and Bizarros mutually hating each other, we Pythons find Dark Falls too Dark, and the Bizarros don't like Space. But all of this needs to be getting public soon.
I can confirm that there's a non-mutual rivalry going on, or someone is one big lier without a discernable reason. I won't say more since I prefer to not give up my faction identity as of yet.
classical_hero
05-11-2011, 09:41
I will need to be replaced since I just don;t have the physical energy to play a game this complex. Sorry abut that.
To do list:
Revive Beskar and Kage
You only need to revive me, I will revive Kage. :bow:
I strongly recommend it, then I am not tied down by rules and thus I can fully reveal all the information I have. I promise you at least two anti-mafia upfront on revival.
Then I will also "Lead" the town, alongside with Kage (who is evil) sharing information as we track down other anti-mafia, so then you don't have to worry about me being neutral.
I just hope I'm not dead in the morning. :(
I'm getting very frustrated right about now, both with the people who are constantly trying to undermine me and with the people who are allowing me to take all the flak for what are actions decided on collectively, without saying a word. It is getting extremely old.
And faction rivalries are NOT mutual.
I'm getting very frustrated right about now, both with the people who are constantly trying to undermine me and with the people who are allowing me to take all the flak for what are actions decided on collectively, without saying a word. It is getting extremely old.
A) I wonder why?
B) Name them.
C) Tell us why we shouldn't vote you. Or at least why I shouldn't. Because I have two suspects at the moment, one of which is you, the other of which I won't name until I get more info.
You said "look at his post". Whose post? Auto's or someone else's? What the heck is the big deal about a simple request?
I thought that was obvious.
Oh, and if you feel I am acting like a dick, my apologies, but it's the way I post, sorry.
Kagemusha
05-11-2011, 14:01
I will revive you myself Kage when I get revived. I need some one I can trust as a partner.
How about that? Two revives for the price of one.
I can live with that.~;)
...Thanks Earthling, I was trying to play the guy with all the cards routine but you just have to be a party pooper.
Reneta you sent mythmonster to kill me even though it was known I had a chance of killing him, either you didn't remember it or you didnt care if he died, considering what little I know of your play style I'm inclined to think the latter.
I don't actually remember whether your retaliation item came up. I know retaliation items were mentioned here or there in vig considerations, but not in connection with whom. I do know I wasn't the one to suggest you. I wanted someone else,and I can't keep track of everything.
More to the point --
1. You yourself suspected mythmonster, or said you did. (And never mind the reasoning is wrong; I'll get to that later.) So do I; I spent half of yesterday trying to get him lynched. There is something psychologically wrong with you taking a supposed aggressive action by me against my top suspect and your only suspect, ever to date, and using it to insinuate nasty motives by me. I'm supposed to be trying to get my suspects killed. That's what townies DO for a living.
2. Similarly your concern for mythmonster rings false considering you suspected him just yesterday of having flat-out lied to you. I don't believe it's ever been said plainly by anyone that he did not, has it? (Correct me if I'm wrong on this one; I've lost track of exactly what's been said.) You don't care about him. It's just a front for your concern about Greyblades.
Your approach to mythmonster is suspect in other ways. First, you obviously had no interest in him whatsoever until he made the comment about having been asked to kill you. You folded your Earthling bet (effectively putting mythmonster into the lead, but showing no indication that you cared) prior to MM's comment. When he did say what he did, you put ten credits on MM, with a simple frowny face for explanation. The clear implication of that frowny face is "He was willing to kill me; he must die". The amount, too, (20 less than on Earthling) is consistent with this interpretation. Which is FINE, as just one vote in many. However, you didn't leave it at that.
When you were challenged by me later on the reasoning for your votes yesterday, the rationale for voting mythmonster became more complicated. Now it was "he LIED about not attacking me; I was attacked, he did attack me, but he said he didn't."
Something's wrong here, Greyblades. If I'm to believe this is really what you were thinking at the time, then your vote patterns make no sense for you as a townie. You've never indicated the slightest reason to be suspicious of Earthling, yet were willing to put 30 credits on him. That just above, if you really believed it? HUGE reason to be suspicious of mythmonster. You had him nailed in a lie, didn't you? And you didn't even say so? Your only response was "frowny face, 10 credits (implication it was for being willing to attack you)?" No way. Just NO. Townies don't do that. Townies say "WTF MM you did too attack me, you liar". And they probably put more than 10 credits on it. But they definitely mention the reason for the bet!
Either you were thinking just what you said you were, but were too cautious to bring it up (and you should have no reason to be cautious, *especially* if you really believed you'd been attacked by mafia once already); or you were never thinking it at all and just thought it sounded better than "I voted him because he wanted to vig me." Both are dishonest.
And I'd like to continue on to your current dropping of mythmonster as a suspect at all, apparently also without reason, but I'm not 100% sure it was never said anywhere that he was not the only person set to attack you that night (which he wasn't; and there's really no reason to believe regardless of MM's alignment that he'd have anything to gain by telling such a lie, so the whole rationale is off in the first place, but whatever), so never mind.
A) I wonder why?
Because as I've said once or twice before, I don't suck at this game. I can find mafia if given the chance. And so far I haven't had much of one. The only person I've ever truly suspected who is dead now is MRD. Every single other person I've ever put forth for lynch or vig or roleblock, or just plain been willing to see as collateral damage -- you, Greyblades, ACIN, mythmonster, Link (even Earthling if you want to throw in my confused relationship with him) -- is still alive. None of the vigs have gone through. ACIN and mythmonster were not lynched. It would be one thing if my record of accusations was a mile long list of dead townies, but almost all there is is living unknowns. There is no reason for me to be getting the level of grief that I am getting for just trying to play the game. If I am wrong about everyone on that list I will hang up my freaking scum-hunting shoes and go home, but there is no way that I am. I am not that bad at this.
B) Name them.
I'd rather they named themselves. But some of them are obvious enough. Zack, before he died. Shlin. God Emperor. Jolt was one of the vig volunteers (and Earthling is wrong; I didn't know his faction) but wasn't otherwise told much -- I gave him the case against mythmonster the last night he was alive in hopes of persuading him off Earthling onto MM instead, but I don't know what he actually did. Ditto mythmonster, who was told nothing at all but whom to attack (and who was expected to fail, against Link). For that matter almost all of the plans were expected to fail, individually, but I had hoped there'd be something to show for it by now based on cumulative odds if nothing else.
C) Tell us why we shouldn't vote you. Or at least why I shouldn't. Because I have two suspects at the moment, one of which is you, the other of which I won't name until I get more info.
I won't apologize for trying to get you vigged. You and mythmonster were my top suspects and I stand by that.
I thought that was obvious.
It's really really not, and if it's something important I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd just spell it out.
I won't apologize for trying to get you vigged. You and mythmonster were my top suspects and I stand by that.
Lies.
How many of your would-be teammates are on your list?
Which reminds me especially with the other player curiousity's of Greyblades/dead people whatever that Renata is definitely of the Space Mafia faction, I might as well reveal it publicly now, it feels like the right thing to do, she was faction scanned Night Three and the result should be from a correct source, the only way it's not is if she bus-drivered herself or has a cover role or something. A fair number of people should have known this in private and Renata was supposed to have a fair chance to explain her motives but it's not happening, and if Believer or Roman or whomever are faction allies they are stonewalling it too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4&feature=related
It's extremely amusing that you come up with these reveals, still.
And to my knowledge, nobody knew what my faction was unless they scanned me.
Truth is pointless, you may as well say everything that's happened so far is the result of the Space Mafia faction pulling the strings against everyone else. It's probably more fun,too.
Major Robert Dump
05-11-2011, 18:43
Someday when the town finally lynches the right person and everyone scores big off their 5 credit bet (because thats all anyone has left) I have a feeling I'm gonna get rezzed and be a regular Deer Jesus, forgiving all of you for your sins and doing that thing where I hold my hands out and gave longingly to the guy painting my picture. It's gonna be awesome.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 19:45
Truth is pointless, you may as well say everything that's happened so far is the result of the Space Mafia faction pulling the strings against everyone else. It's probably more fun,too.
That sounds like a good explanation, actually. You've been hoarding items for yourself and a couple of your likely allies, wasted others' credits but keep backing out from betting or using your own, set vigilante targets on random people, and not caught any scum. The same observations do fit with you, Renata, being outright scum yourself, but if not this is the answer. And really, you knew Jolt was going to attack me in advance, and yet through the whole time Jolt was arguing with me, never had reason to inform any townies of it eh?
Also I really question your reasoning on all of your suspect lists again. If you feel other people are to blame and are giving you wrong info, name them. Because other than shlin (and the revived BL) I'd spare nobody, if Believer, or robbiecon, or Bow-wow-wow (with that scan item that was voted for him and for the zillionth town he refuses to follow up with the town on) are or were lying to you then you should reveal them Renata. If all these vig decisions and what not were simply on your own, I cannot see how if you read the thread you wouldn't find some of the same people suspicious that I find suspicious, like Rabbit or Warman. That seems to indicate you are not making an honest effort to find threats to the town.
Kagemusha
05-11-2011, 19:46
Truth is pointless, you may as well say everything that's happened so far is the result of the Space Mafia faction pulling the strings against everyone else. It's probably more fun,too.
Scum,scummyyyy,scum.
Diamondeye
05-11-2011, 19:50
Scum,scummyyyy,scum.
I'll laugh if Renata is Star Wars mafia scum.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 19:57
Diamondeye nearly the sixth day into the game you should contribute something of actual value yourself, which you haven't ever, besides metagame comments that are clearly of no relevance and trying to bargain your way into an item for yourself. Amazing you racked up so many posts doing so little actually.
As for Renata, I'd say it's still possible enough she is still just a very greedy and selfish townie out for her own interests and faction (or a neutral fits well, but either of those mean not chaotic). There's no way she would ever concede a single thing to even suggest I'm Innocent or shouldn't die right away if she was scum and had a chance to kill me, same with some others, if she was chaotic she didn't take the easy way out and that makes little sense. I'm willing to give her the same chance that should have been forced Day Five, Renata bets 60 of her own credits on a candidate like Greyblades or Rabbit tomorrow, (really a lot depends on who is still alive after this night). She doesn't get to make the choice but the rest of us tell her who to bet up on, and doesn't remove those credits ever. So either we lynch a scum, or Renata loses her credits and becomes more powerless and rinse and repeat, either way a victory there, or if she backs out then we have free reign to kill her.
When is going to be morning?
I can't deal with this.
Major Robert Dump
05-11-2011, 20:53
I have a feeling Renata is getting nervous because of all those documents they pulled out of Bin Ladens compound in Pakistan, where it is rumored the real list of scum was being kept.
This is the same way she acted when the BTK killer was apprehended, and I am pretty sure I saw her in a crowd of people giving a thumbs up in a Japanese Earthquake video.
Bow-wow-wow
05-11-2011, 20:57
I have a feeling Renata is getting nervous because of all those documents they pulled out of Bin Ladens compound in Pakistan, where it is rumored the real list of scum was being kept.
This is the same way she acted when the BTK killer was apprehended, and I am pretty sure I saw her in a crowd of people giving a thumbs up in a Japanese Earthquake video.
I've said from the start she is chaotic but only now do people start to beleive me.
That sounds like a good explanation, actually. You've been hoarding items for yourself and a couple of your likely allies, wasted others' credits but keep backing out from betting or using your own, set vigilante targets on random people, and not caught any scum. The same observations do fit with you, Renata, being outright scum yourself, but if not this is the answer. And really, you knew Jolt was going to attack me in advance, and yet through the whole time Jolt was arguing with me, never had reason to inform any townies of it eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4&feature=related
Earthling is back with his wild accusations about others wasting credits and still accusing me of attacking him, something which I have already deconstructed in such a way that he refrained from making that argument again. And brilliantly enough, even manages to accuse someone of not finding any scum. He, of all people! To be making that accusation. :laugh4:
Earthling
05-11-2011, 21:07
Jolt, we get that you want to act like you can't read and you're a liar. Nobody's going to be reviving you at least. Renata just said that you attacked me though, if you think she lied there go after that, but it matches the writeup and Renata herself claimed that you were attacking/vigging people at night.
It's just amazing how Earthling KNOWS I haven't found any scum. Amazing that, given he's not scum and neither am I. Apparently Earthling is clairvoyant and I am teh suck.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 21:43
There are zero dead scum due to you. Don't distort things with more of your lies, it's extremely obvious. Given that you've gotten people to claim and attempt at least a half-dozen vig attempts and made a case on two lynches you don't have an excuse of lack of opportunities.
Renata, tell me you have the gag and are using it on earthling.
Will you bet on Greyblades tomorrow, Earthling?
Will you bet on mythmonster?
Will you bet on ACIN?
All assuming status quo, none of us are dead, none of us have been attacked by the mafia, nobody's coming out with drop-dead evidence on anyone. You keep coming down on the side of me being town, only a selfish one. Do you help me prove that, or don't you? No hedges about me making maximum bets; with my schedule it is impossible for me to commit to such a thing absent a huge runaway wagon, or it would be no more than throwing my credits away. Just yes or no. Will you help me on any of them?
Major Robert Dump
05-11-2011, 22:08
Please, for the integrity of the game, refer to the gag items by their proper name.
Earthling
05-11-2011, 22:31
I'm going to bet on Rabbit tomorrow assuming status quo, probably one credit as I won't have many anyway. And no Renata, I will not bet on mythmonster or ACIN or other cases I do not agree with to support you. If you make a large bet yourself on someone I could see as a scum like Greyblades, Warman, Autolycus etc... and my vote could make a difference I would try to join that wagon, otherwise would not be interested in trying to save you from someone else lynching you, all status quo without surprising new revelations.
Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 22:34
Okay. Finally.
Sorry everyone.... I'm getting to work on the writeup now, then I'll send out results, then I will send out updated cards.
Because it will take a while, consider the day to begin when the writeup is posted, but you'll get your standard 48 hours after that and hopefully our schedule will go normal again.
It's just amazing how Earthling KNOWS I haven't found any scum. Amazing that, given he's not scum and neither am I. Apparently Earthling is clairvoyant and I am teh suck.
https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2338/erwhat.png (https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/erwhat.png/)
Perhaps Earthling knows you haven't found any scum by the fact that we haven't lynched any scum yet. I mean, that seems clear enough.
The only ones dead are due to retaliation kills.
thefluffyone93
05-11-2011, 23:47
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/yube.png?t=1305154056
Jolt, we get that you want to act like you can't read and you're a liar. Nobody's going to be reviving you at least. Renata just said that you attacked me though, if you think she lied there go after that, but it matches the writeup and Renata herself claimed that you were attacking/vigging people at night.
We? Who's we? Tell me, who was lynched by the town this last day? Who was murdered by the Mafia this last night? Lieing? Who was lying about a counter-claim? Was it me? Who was lying about the certain cooperation between MRD and Seon? Was it me? Who was the main person behind lynching a townie? Was it me? Who was lying about being silenced? Was it me? Who was lying about using credits to defend himself and then admitted that he was using an ability (Though I still very much doubt that the magical shield is an ability)? Was it me?
Who was the one who said you were up to something? And then the town lynched you and we found out that you are a joker role.
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out anyone from the town reviving me. I haven't requested it because I'm partially busy with real life affairs (College essays and the like), but it is obvious to everyone that I have been helping the town, and will continue to do so.
Contrary to Beskar, I don't know anyone who is actually Mafia (Besides Greyblades, who I'm pretty sure he is). That said, if Beskar has that many connections with Mafia (It's very likely he isn't even telling the truth, just for the sake of being revived), I don't know how probable he is to be in cahoots with the Mafia, in case one of their members revive him, and since nobody knows who revived him, it may well be that it'll just pass as him being revived by the town. I can't promise handing mafiosi to the town, but I do have my hidden talents which I used found out by trying out during the night, and which they can be extremely useful to the town. I went after you, and you turned out to be a dubious character that despite your "Evil" status, you clearly aren't affiliated with the town's main victory goal. So I'd say my credibility in the town to persue Mafia is a whole, whole lot better than yours. Despite that, I shall not argue for my revival over the others as I'm well aware that reviving a neutral does carry an implicit risk which I can never displace. In the end, it is a matter of seeing what each individual has accomplished so far in the game.
So yes, if someone of the town does wish to revive me, then I will try to repay the confidence in me and use my abilities to do what I can do ensure a town victory.
If not, then I'd suggest Kagemusha as a good target for revival.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
05-12-2011, 00:21
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:laugh: :laugh:
Askthepizzaguy
05-12-2011, 00:40
NIGHT FIVE
Wish I may
Wish I might
Have this I wish tonight
Are you satisfied?
Dig for gold
Dig for fame
You dig to make your name
Are you pacified?
All the wants you waste
All the things you've chased
Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around
Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name
Where's your crown, King Nothing?
Where's your crown?
Hot and cold
Bought and Sold
A heart as hard as gold
Yeah! Are you satisfied?
Wish I might
Wish I may
You wish your life away
Are you pacified?
All the wants you waste
All the things you chased
Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around
Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name
Where's your crown, King Nothing?
Where's your crown?
I wish I may
I wish I might
Have this wish I wish tonight
I want that star
I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how
Careful what you wish
Careful what you say
Careful what you wish
You may regret it
Careful what you wish
You just might get it
Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around
Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name
Where's your crown, King Nothing?
-- Metallica
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B_ray clutched the precious item in his hands. He worked so hard for the item.... and now it was his and his alone. It was such a strange item.... but it was rumored to cause giant transformations. Just imagine what could happen if the tiny being could become huge.... just once...
His senses picked up the sound of footsteps behind him. B_Ray hid the item and turned around to face his attacker.
The tall, menacing looking figure with giant black wings approached. In his hands, a pair of blades shimmered. B_Ray also noticed the figure was carrying a vicious-looking spiked mace, dangling from its waist. The figure bared its fangs, and prepared to cleave the little one into pieces.
B_Ray: "Oh poopies. Why do bad things always happen to such cute critters? What am I saying... I've been looking forward to this. Sacrifice me to the devil!"
Raspy voice: "With pleasure...."
And the little one was cleaved in half, with a grin on his face. The remains were mashed up with the mace. B_ray, pounded flat into the pavement, looked like road kill.
______________________________
Autolycus didn't need to rest. He spent the night doing research, attempting to learn something of value to his team. He noted that there was a figure approaching, but did not look up.
The approaching figure raised the weapon, and fired. Autolycus sensed the impact of the bullets, but he seemed unaffected. It was at this point, his golden eyes stopped focusing on his task, and turned to face the attacker. He looked furious.
Autolycus: "And what is it you think you're doing, little man?"
????: "Putting an end to you."
Autolycus: "You bags of flesh are so weak. It will be my pleasure to set you alight like a torch and parade your burnt carcass through town."
????: "I think not."
Autolycus: "And just how do you propose to stop me? I'm stronger than a hundred of you put together, and faster than the eyes can see. In fact, why am I wasting my time taunting you? Time to die."
Autolycus stood up and charged directly toward the figure, preparing to tackle and dismember the foe. But the figure kept firing, the bullets not even fazing Autolycus, as they bounced off his chest. Autolycus dove toward the armed foe, who moved out of the way with astonishing speed. Autolycus landed on the ground, and spun around to face his attacker.
The figure was already upon him, and pointing the weapon at Autolycus' face. He grabbed the attacker's hand and prepared to rip it off. The figure fired the gun, and the bullet penetrated his golden eye, severely damaging Autolycus' positronic matrix. A cascade failure soon followed, and Autolycus could only curse as his programs began shutting down.
Autolycus: "So, this is the end.
I've spent the past 3.5 seconds contemplating my own mortality.
....For an android, that is nearly an eternity."
______________________________
The green eyes shone in the night, focused on the hapless victim. He approached, wielding a massive blade, preparing to finish the tall, powerful figure with a single stroke. Sword raised, he smirked victoriously.
In an instant, the tall, powerful figure disappeared with a flash. The being with the green eyes paused for a moment, wondering what had happened.
In a few seconds, another figure appeared, and she seemed disoriented. She was a stunning woman....
Ironside: "What's going on here?"
With a shrug, the green eyed figure swung the massive blade, decapitating the beautiful woman without mercy or sentiment. He stared off into the night with intense eyes.... it wasn't clear if he was savoring the kill, or searching for the one who got away.
It started to rain from the cloudy skies. The rain sounded like a cascade of pebbles hitting the ground, they struck with such force. The rain washed the blood from the blade, and a tide of red poured from the fallen Ironside, flowing like a river into the sewer.
The green eyed figure smiled again, with malevolence.
______________________________
Summary of events:
B_Ray2 has been murdered!
B_Ray2 was Squirrely the Squirrel, of the South Park Mafia Faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Squirrely.png
B_Ray2 was Evil!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/47.png
3 of Hearts
Autolycus has been murdered!
Autolycus was Lore, of the Space Mafia Faction!
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Autolycus was Evil!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/44.png
4 of Diamonds
Ironside has been murdered!
Ironside was Kansas C. Smith, of the Cosa Nostra Faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Kansas.png
Ironside was Evil!
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Queen of Diamonds
Alive Players- (29/50)
A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS2 (Replacing Classical_Hero2)
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Believer
Bow-wow-wow
Chaotix
Crazed Rabbit
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Earthling
Fluffyone
God Emperor
Greyblades
landlubber
Link
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Warman
Winston Hughes (Replacing GamezRule)
Yaseikhaan (Replacing Mythmonster2)
Deceased-
Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?108584-The-Full-Monty-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Hearts
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) Ace of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=384005)) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two
civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three
choxorn- Satanic Choir Director James Marshall [Evil] Psychotic Mafia (The Chainsaw Gang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)) 6 of Spades
Zack- Klingon Assassin [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia V- Star Trek (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Spades
-------------Night Three
Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four
Beskar- Detective Psycho Andy [Neutral] Psychotic Mafia (Psycho Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 5 of Diamonds
Jolt- Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded [Neutral] Space Mafia (Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-in-play)) Ace of Clubs
Captain Blackadder2- Claire Raval [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) 5 of Spades
-------------Night Four
(No one)
-------------Day Five
B_Ray2- Squirrely the Squirrel [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)) 3 of Hearts
Autolycus- Android Lore [Evil] Space Mafia (Mini Mafia VII- Star Trek TNG (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120373-Mini-Mafia-VII)) 4 of Diamonds
Ironside- Kansas C. Smith [Evil] Cosa Nostra (Resident Evil: Omega (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117441-Resident-Evil-Omega-%28Concluded%29)) Queen of Diamonds
-------------Night Five
Begin Day Six
Vote on the following items.
10% bus driver chance. [MOBILE HOLOGRAM EMITTER]
10% investigatory chance + Faction scanning. [RABBITY THE RABBIT]
10% bulletproof chance. [UTILITY FLASHLIGHT]
60% Override (Allows kill through protection) [TRIFORCE]
10% vigilante kill chance. [SILENCED HANDGUN]
10% retaliatory kill chance. [OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE]
Max Wager for this round is 60 Credits.
Well poo. The squirrel finally found its nut, and he gets pancaked immediately. Life's just not fair.
robbiecon
05-12-2011, 01:06
I'd like to have a better investigatory powers, to get this, I would like to have the following:
Vote: Rabbity the Rabbit to me
I'm not particularly interested in the rest of the items, but if you give me this, I can swing an item your way.
dcmort93
05-12-2011, 01:10
ok for now until I find out how many credits I have I'm going to bet 20 credits on Earthling
dcmort93
05-12-2011, 01:12
woops wrong game Fold forgot earthling was confirmed
a completely inoffensive name
05-12-2011, 01:13
Will you bet on Greyblades tomorrow, Earthling?
Will you bet on mythmonster?
Will you bet on ACIN?
All assuming status quo, none of us are dead, none of us have been attacked by the mafia, nobody's coming out with drop-dead evidence on anyone. You keep coming down on the side of me being town, only a selfish one. Do you help me prove that, or don't you? No hedges about me making maximum bets; with my schedule it is impossible for me to commit to such a thing absent a huge runaway wagon, or it would be no more than throwing my credits away. Just yes or no. Will you help me on any of them?
Get out of here Renata. The more you have been babbling during this in-between phase, the more contempt you are getting from me.
I tell people to stop focusing on MRD-Earthling and it turns out MRD is innocent, I say we should stop focusing on the people talking and instead think beyond the 8 main contributors and look at those who have been lying low. Now you bring up three names of people who have been in the spotlight and assert that these people are suspicious.
Where is the pressure on dcmort? Crazed Rabbit? Robbiecon? Subotan? Warman? Red_Spy? landlubber? link?
None of these people have been talking much. Too many people are laying low. And you keep talking about those that bother to open their mouths. Hell, the entire chaotic team could be within the 7 names we just listed and you want to send us on the chase towards those who contribute.
Gee, it sure seems like the chaotics just love riding the distractions the town has created for itself. Lets just waste 2 days on MRD and Earthling. Let's just waste a day on accusations from Earthling.
Now the distractions have run out but you keep wanting to focus solely on those who are involved and talk a lot.
I have half a mind to spend my credits to revive MRD, because imo he has been completely right. The town has been letting those who don't participate slide by without a thought.
There is no drop dead evidence because for the past four days everyone has been distracted by the epic failures we have been having as lynches. This day we have an opportunity to put pressure on those no one has talked about. But no, go ahead Renata. Go do your thing and we will see how it turns out. :rollseyes:
Major Robert Dump
05-12-2011, 01:15
IS SOME PEOPLZ GONNA DIE?
a completely inoffensive name
05-12-2011, 01:17
Oh wth...I got credits stolen from me.
Get out of here Renata. The more you have been babbling during this in-between phase, the more contempt you are getting from me.
I tell people to stop focusing on MRD-Earthling and it turns out MRD is innocent, I say we should stop focusing on the people talking and instead think beyond the 8 main contributors and look at those who have been lying low. Now you bring up three names of people who have been in the spotlight and assert that these people are suspicious.
Where is the pressure on dcmort? Crazed Rabbit? Robbiecon? Subotan? Warman? Red_Spy? landlubber? link?
None of these people have been talking much. Too many people are laying low. And you keep talking about those that bother to open their mouths. Hell, the entire chaotic team could be within the 7 names we just listed and you want to send us on the chase towards those who contribute.
Gee, it sure seems like the chaotics just love riding the distractions the town has created for itself. Lets just waste 2 days on MRD and Earthling. Let's just waste a day on accusations from Earthling.
Now the distractions have run out but you keep wanting to focus solely on those who are involved and talk a lot.
I have half a mind to spend my credits to revive MRD, because imo he has been completely right. The town has been letting those who don't participate slide by without a thought.
There is no drop dead evidence because for the past four days everyone has been distracted by the epic failures we have been having as lynches. This day we have an opportunity to put pressure on those no one has talked about. But no, go ahead Renata. Go do your thing and we will see how it turns out. :rollseyes:
This is definitely true. Greyblades needs to die first, though. Then I would advise concentrating on starting to looking seriously at the lurkers (It's how the Mafia were caught in the Rubicon).
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 01:32
I love you too you dissent spreading dead guy.
Considering that if I am not lynched no matter what I do reneta, or her scum buddy, will try to kill me next night I've gotta ask for these;
Vote: UTILITY FLASHLIGHT and OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE to myself.
autolycus
05-12-2011, 01:51
Great, three evils dead, one of whom was bus driven into harm's way, judging by the write-up. Although based on the picture, she may have been the one to kill me, in which case I have less sympathy.
Askthepizzaguy
05-12-2011, 02:15
writeup and result PMs are done. Contact me if you spot errors.
Will take a break, and then certain folks will be prioritized for getting an updated card.
If you want me to rush your card, send me a PM.
You should organise my resurrection this phase, as it will lead to the death of anti-mafia and saving the mafia from it's own self-destruction.
Vote: TRIFORCE to myself
I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to do vigilante work. Pretty much the only thing I have succeeded at so far is losing credits and getting them stolen. I am back down to 10 credits as of today.
But whatever happens, we gotta keep the override powers out of the hands of the mafia.
As someone on the outside looking in, I am of the opinion that Renata is probably scum, but has placed herself in the center of a group of townies- I'd say the players she's been coordinating are likely innocents, while she has been manipulating them. You guys have little reason to trust me right now... so if there is someone who is a likely town player from Renata's group, I'll switch my vote there. Just please make sure it doesn't go to Renata herself.
Bet: 1 on Renata
I don't have a whole lot to spare here.
Backwards Logic
05-12-2011, 04:49
Last night, I attempted to vigilante kill Warman, as he's been on my list of 'people of who have been silent and are contributing nothing.' It, despite the items I acquired yesterday, failed. I intend to continue to attempt to vigilante kill the silent one, since given the voting history this game has had thus far betting on the silent types (or really anyone) can be draining if one person shows up and bets huge on another. I've also learned my secret skill is in vigilante-ing, so I feel I should have Vote: Triforce to myself. Since I'm making this known, and it's likely the Chaotics would rather see me dead than to start killing folks, I also will Vote: Omega Virus Sample (stolen from me last night) and Utility Flashlight to myself as well.
I still believe our best bet is to go after the silent/quieter ones, and despite me being wrong about Autolycus (as an aside, Visorslash you never told me how you knew Auto was evil, just that he was...) I'm going to continue to vote down this path. I've found Diamondeye's posts for the most part uncharacteristically devoid of any substance toward finding the chaotics, and I would like him to weigh in on, well, anything. Quite frankly, I don't know what to make of this Greybeard/Renata/everyone else brouhaha stuff that's been going on for the past day or so, and it feels like it could morph into another MRD/Earthling scenario.
Bet: 10 credits on Diamondeye.
Ironside
05-12-2011, 07:57
Braavo busdriver :applause:, you've just unleashed the deadliest item in the game (it's an item merger).
May I suggest it's given to somebody, who then gifts it away secrectly? It's only a mafia's wet dream, so it's not exactly like the first one getting it is going to keep it.
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 09:30
Vote: triforce to backwards logic
There might be a possibility he was ressurrected by an antitown but he's still the most likely of us to be town and is likely not to be in reneta's pocket.
Can't keep voting crap to Backwards Logic, you do realise that?
Vote: Omega Virus sample and utility flashlght to myself.
Backwards Logic, you already have around 60 percent bulletproof already, why can't other town people get it? You know I'm town.
And if you're all too lazy to do what should be obvious by now with why I said Auto isn't scum, then I'm not going to help you. It's bloody obvious as well.
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 10:34
Can't keep voting crap to Backwards Logic, you do realise that?
I know that, why do you think I voted the bullet proof and retribution stuff for myself? I just dont trust anyone else with the 60% instant kill ignoring protection item.
Diamondeye
05-12-2011, 10:41
Diamondeye nearly the sixth day into the game you should contribute something of actual value yourself, which you haven't ever, besides metagame comments that are clearly of no relevance and trying to bargain your way into an item for yourself. Amazing you racked up so many posts doing so little actually.
Last night, I attempted to vigilante kill Warman, as he's been on my list of 'people of who have been silent and are contributing nothing.' It, despite the items I acquired yesterday, failed. I intend to continue to attempt to vigilante kill the silent one, since given the voting history this game has had thus far betting on the silent types (or really anyone) can be draining if one person shows up and bets huge on another. I've also learned my secret skill is in vigilante-ing, so I feel I should have Vote: Triforce to myself. Since I'm making this known, and it's likely the Chaotics would rather see me dead than to start killing folks, I also will Vote: Omega Virus Sample (stolen from me last night) and Utility Flashlight to myself as well.
I still believe our best bet is to go after the silent/quieter ones, and despite me being wrong about Autolycus (as an aside, Visorslash you never told me how you knew Auto was evil, just that he was...) I'm going to continue to vote down this path. I've found Diamondeye's posts for the most part uncharacteristically devoid of any substance toward finding the chaotics, and I would like him to weigh in on, well, anything. Quite frankly, I don't know what to make of this Greybeard/Renata/everyone else brouhaha stuff that's been going on for the past day or so, and it feels like it could morph into another MRD/Earthling scenario.
Bet: 10 credits on Diamondeye.
Okay, Item votes out of the way first;
Flashlight and Virus sample to Backwards Logic.
Rabbity Rabbit to myself.
Triforce to Backwards Logic but please hand it to someone you trust so it won't get stolen. Don't tell anyone who.
I'll be brief now, but I'll try to elaborate on things later. I've been consciously "noncommital" in the thread to avoid the attention of mafia and vigilante alike... I started with a 10% Faction scanning item, which got stolen but I was voted a new one the same day, so I've been continually firing 10% scans into the dark, also trying to find out my hidden ability.
You said you want to see me to get in the game? I might not have a lot of credits (couple of failed creditstealing attempts), but I'll Bet 60: Renata. You can call me Charlie if she's Evil.
I know that, why do you think I voted the bullet proof and retribution stuff for myself? I just dont trust anyone else with the 60% instant kill ignoring protection item.
General statement. Which applies to the post below yours. You should be trying to ferret out other townies, which is what I did with Autolycus.
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 10:51
...I'm pretty sure you ferreting out autolycus was pretty much made him a target last night.
I might agree with you. But I was right, was I not. I said he wasn't scum and he wasn't. Though he was going to be a target anyway, I imagine.
Renata, who are your suspects?
mythmonster2
05-12-2011, 12:35
All right guys, I'm dropping out now. By the way, my vig item was stolen, so yeah.
autolycus
05-12-2011, 12:42
Okay, Item votes out of the way first;
Flashlight and Virus sample to Backwards Logic.
Rabbity Rabbit to myself.
Triforce to Backwards Logic but please hand it to someone you trust so it won't get stolen. Don't tell anyone who.
I'll be brief now, but I'll try to elaborate on things later. I've been consciously "noncommital" in the thread to avoid the attention of mafia and vigilante alike... I started with a 10% Faction scanning item, which got stolen but I was voted a new one the same day, so I've been continually firing 10% scans into the dark, also trying to find out my hidden ability.
You said you want to see me to get in the game? I might not have a lot of credits (couple of failed creditstealing attempts), but I'll Bet 60: Renata. You can call me Charlie if she's Evil.
Wait, you've been continually firing off 10 % scans, trying to discover your hidden ability and have made a number of failed credit thefts? I count three actions. We only get two. Does not compute.
Apologies for getting you killed (most likely) Autolycus.
Renata, who are your suspects?
Grayblades/ACIN/Psychonaut/about a half dozen other people. Mythmonster has dropped down a lot due to Greyblades and ACIN. Grayblades unvoted Earthling at a time that put MM in the lead instead. They're not mafia together. ACIN had that comment about "I won't trust you anymore if mythmonster is town" -- easy thing for a scum ACIN to say about a townie; a bit harder to say about a teammate.
Psychonaut's just been almost-but-not-quite absent. He comes up in almost every single conversation about vigs and lynches I've ever had, but he never quite rises to the top.
God Emperor
05-12-2011, 13:39
Depending on where there seems to be the most support, I would like to see either greyblades or mythmonster lynched.
perhaps working so close with Renata as I have done in this game, might have clouded my judgement on her, but is there actually any case on her ?
at any rate Vote: 5 credit on mythmonster
ACIN:
Where is the pressure on dcmort? Crazed Rabbit? Robbiecon? Subotan? Warman? Red_Spy? landlubber? link?
You do realize that at the time I accused them mythmonster and visorslash had posts in the same number range as at last a couple people on your list, right? That at the time I accused *him*, Greyblades had even fewer?
More to the point: where are Psychonaut and Greyblades in that list of every freaking lurker in the game, ACIN?
Kagemusha
05-12-2011, 13:43
Just place your bets on Renata. If i am wrong about her.I will promise to shut up for the rest of the game, which im not.
Just place your bets on Renata. If i am wrong about her.I will promise to shut up for the rest of the game, which im not.
Dunno, maybe. IF you posted walls of crap, I would take the chance but I'm happy to wait and see what others say before making a decision right now.
Red Spy should have beeen WoG'ed if I'm not mistaken. Has he posted here?
Backwards Logic
05-12-2011, 13:59
Can't keep voting crap to Backwards Logic, you do realise that?
Vote: Omega Virus sample and utility flashlght to myself.
Backwards Logic, you already have around 60 percent bulletproof already, why can't other town people get it? You know I'm town.
And if you're all too lazy to do what should be obvious by now with why I said Auto isn't scum, then I'm not going to help you. It's bloody obvious as well.
Considering you keep dodging my questions, no I don't think you're town. Instead of 'it's so obvious, I'm not answering,' maybe actually try helping out for a change and telling me how you knew Auto was evil before he got killed. That kind of response to that kind of question reeks of 'I already know who's who because I'm already Chaotic', so I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here to actually explain this. I have no time to wade through 48+ pages to find that one obvious thing that somehow only you figured out. No one else has come to me with an explanation either, so this is on you.
To the recently deceased: I'm curious as to who your top supects are, especially Ironsides considering you got bused to death last night.
Diamondeye
05-12-2011, 14:06
Wait, you've been continually firing off 10 % scans, trying to discover your hidden ability and have made a number of failed credit thefts? I count three actions. We only get two. Does not compute.
Well I've had four nights (remember, I was absent first night); I've failed two stealing attempts and discovered that I'm not a reviver... I also tried sending in orders to try and discover if I'm bulletproof but apparently that doesn't work unless you're attacked; That's four non-scan-attempt actions; I've been trying to scan every night. Is that satisfactory?
Just place your bets on Renata. If i am wrong about her.I will promise to shut up for the rest of the game, which im not.
This. I agree with Kagemusha; I don't think Renata is town... So my bet should cash a prize if she hangs... Vote Renata, is what I'm basically saying.
I think you should give the triforce to bow-wow-wow.
Okay, Beskar:
Triforce to Backwards Logic
Askthepizzaguy
05-12-2011, 14:35
ANNOUNCEMENT:
ArpeggiateTHIS2 Replaces Classical_hero2 who replaced El Barto
Winston Hughes Replaces GamezRule
Yaseikhaan Replaces Mythmonster2
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 14:54
I was going to wait until my card was updated so I could check my credit amount but I think I can work it out myself.
Bet 30 credits on reneta
johnhughthom
05-12-2011, 14:55
Replacing replacements... :no:
seireikhaan
05-12-2011, 15:02
I'd really like to be able to vig again. Not very nice to take my super awesome weapon of doom. :no:
Utility Flashlight to myself
Silenced Handgun to myself
Triforce to Backwards Logic
Rabbity Rabbit to Robbiecon
Omega Sample to Chaotix
As far as the vote, I'm willing to bite on Kage.
Vote: 40 credits on Renata
seireikhaan
05-12-2011, 15:06
Ok, just to make sure formatting and all that, since I flubbed the first attempt.
Bet: 40 credits on Renata
I'm not mafia.
If I die from this, please look to the people who have been using Kage's suspicion as a means of stirring the pot but not entirely committing. The chaotics know perfectly well I'm not one of them and that's going to influence how much they're willing to risk on a bad bet. Greyblades committing his 30 only *after* Diamondeye put in 60 ahead of him (despite me harassing him all night) is more suspicious than Diamondeye is.
Beefy187
05-12-2011, 15:26
Utility Flashlight to Beefy
Silenced Handgun to Beefy
Triforce to Beefy
Rabbity Rabbit to Beefy
Omega Sample to Beefy
I'm always against voting for Renata on principle.
She is never guilty.
a completely inoffensive name
05-12-2011, 16:25
ACIN:
You do realize that at the time I accused them mythmonster and visorslash had posts in the same number range as at last a couple people on your list, right? That at the time I accused *him*, Greyblades had even fewer?
More to the point: where are Psychonaut and Greyblades in that list of every freaking lurker in the game, ACIN?
well renata, i am not as expert as you at mafia so i dont know how to verify the numbers of people's posts for 30+ pages. i seem to remember reading posts from greyblades but i will take the time to control-f his name and comb through past pages.
i have not been recording post counts, i just go off of what i remember reading over the past 4 days. lol compared to earthling everyone seems like a lurker so you may be right.
but all joking aside, your statement still is "meh" to me. lets say you are right, what evidence makes THESE lurkers worthy of all of our attention and why should we let those i listed slide?
a completely inoffensive name
05-12-2011, 16:28
Utility Flashlight to Beefy
Silenced Handgun to Beefy
Triforce to Beefy
Rabbity Rabbit to Beefy
Omega Sample to Beefy
I'm always against voting for Renata on principle.
She is never guilty.
doesn't seem like you take the advice of your cow sig.
Okay.... I am probably adding more reasons to the List of Reasons Why I Should Be Murdered, but I'm gonna say this anyway.
I have also been in contact with Renata for a while, just giving her some heads up of what I'm gonna do and giving some rather poor advice to her. I'm not say that she is definitely Evil, but she does gives an impression of actively trying to root out the Chaotics. Yes her thread behaviour can be a bit suspicious, but the advice she has been giving me in private has largely been useful and probably helped the town a bit. I did have my suspicions of course, but all of them could easily be coincidences - I could post them later if any of you want to see them, but they were really terrible arguments :embarassed:.
Also, don't forget the fact that I (and a few probable innocents known to her) are still alive, even though she as the organiser could have easily found out our abilities and stopped/killed us. I accept that there could be a leak in this group, but I don't expect it to be Renata, since her actions vindicates her innocence.
So... er, don't lynch Renata?
As for suspects, I have no idea as usual, Myth (Khaan), Earthling and Greyblades are my guesses, but I think I am willing to give Khaan and Earthling a chance first. Bet: 5 Credits on Greyblades
As for item votes, for now I will Vote: MOBILE HOLOGRAM EMITTER to shlin28 as an extra 10% could help me to do what I do best. Protection would be nice as well, but other people may need it more.
PS: I know I do not sound convincing at all, but er... give peace a chance and try to vote for some real suspects?
well renata, i am not as expert as you at mafia so i dont know how to verify the numbers of people's posts for 30+ pages. i seem to remember reading posts from greyblades but i will take the time to control-f his name and comb through past pages.
i have not been recording post counts, i just go off of what i remember reading over the past 4 days. lol compared to earthling everyone seems like a lurker so you may be right.
but all joking aside, your statement still is "meh" to me. lets say you are right, what evidence makes THESE lurkers worthy of all of our attention and why should we let those i listed slide?
I actually have more posts than Earthling now; I think that's kind of pathetic of me.
I'm not saying we should let those you listed slide. But you skip the biggest suspect I have on the lurker list and ignore the fact that at least two of my recent suspects *are/were* lurkers, it tends to stand out. As does you calling out the batch of them, en masse, as if there were nothign to distinguish among them and they are all equally worthy of attention, no skin off your back which one or why as long as it's no one you care about, right?
Red_spy, 4 posts, latest on April 27, which is somethign like two weeks ago. Nothing of note, a few item votes to self, a few small bets. Since then, poof. Also (though most here wouldn't know this), he disappeared from a NOTW game on CFC at approximately the same time, only turning up a day or so ago to protest his mistaken lynching. His failure to be replaced just now is of some concern; however after civplayah's example not one I'm eager to follow up on, certainly not with a lynch. My estimation: vig bait at best.
Psychonaut: 15 posts, about two per day, right in the scummo sweet spot at this point of the game. However, nothing in the last four days.
1 -- 4 credits on ACIN (no danger to you, this is day two while I'm being bandwagoned), votes some items to himself
2 -- changes item votes to try trade with diamondeye
3&4 -- fluff
5 -- (day three while ACIN is temporarily on the hook) lectures everyone in a joking manner about having not realized ACIN was scummy earlier,when he did. Puts 5 on ACIN. Tries to make item trade with believer.
6,7, 8 -- fluffityflufffluff
9 -- has no idea what's going on, puts 5 on MRD
10 -- fluff
11 -- implies he's had cash stolen from him, is going to put all credits into bets therefore,bets 39 on earthling. offers item trade, omega virus sample to him for another item to anyone
12 -- votes two items to visorslash (who isnot going to get them)
13 -- tells earthling he's ignorant b/c he's only reading 1 post in 10,that he'll probably be lynched even if he claims something hugely protown, so if you want his vote to move make it snappy
14 -- votes holocron to diamondeye
15 -- apologizes to earthling if he is innocent, would be too busy and not remember to check the thread ifhe didn't get a votein early
Psychonaut's clearly just playing here (or wants people to believe he's just playing). Nothing here is serious. He's showing up almost every day to place a vote of no consequence or disclaimed sincerity and vote an item or two to people (minus DE yesterday, I think, and Believer earlier -- both investigation items) who are not going to get them. The only vote to date he's had much effect on is Earthling's lynch, and he apologized for that one in advance. He also seems to have slipped into the "I have no idea what's going on, look how confused I am, town" zone ever since the ACIN thing, and has never brought up ACIN again since then.
Assessment: in the scum zone, needs attention.
See the difference? Now you. Which of those 8 or 10 lurkers you mentioned are worthy of pursuing NOW, and which ones can be left until later?
a completely inoffensive name
05-12-2011, 17:45
I actually have more posts than Earthling now; I think that's kind of pathetic of me.
I'm not saying we should let those you listed slide. But you skip the biggest suspect I have on the lurker list and ignore the fact that at least two of my recent suspects *are/were* lurkers, it tends to stand out. As does you calling out the batch of them, en masse, as if there were nothign to distinguish among them and they are all equally worthy of attention, no skin off your back which one or why as long as it's no one you care about, right?
Red_spy, 4 posts, latest on April 27, which is somethign like two weeks ago. Nothing of note, a few item votes to self, a few small bets. Since then, poof. Also (though most here wouldn't know this), he disappeared from a NOTW game on CFC at approximately the same time, only turning up a day or so ago to protest his mistaken lynching. His failure to be replaced just now is of some concern; however after civplayah's example not one I'm eager to follow up on, certainly not with a lynch. My estimation: vig bait at best.
Psychonaut: 15 posts, about two per day, right in the scummo sweet spot at this point of the game. However, nothing in the last four days.
1 -- 4 credits on ACIN (no danger to you, this is day two while I'm being bandwagoned), votes some items to himself
2 -- changes item votes to try trade with diamondeye
3&4 -- fluff
5 -- (day three while ACIN is temporarily on the hook) lectures everyone in a joking manner about having not realized ACIN was scummy earlier,when he did. Puts 5 on ACIN. Tries to make item trade with believer.
6,7, 8 -- fluffityflufffluff
9 -- has no idea what's going on, puts 5 on MRD
10 -- fluff
11 -- implies he's had cash stolen from him, is going to put all credits into bets therefore,bets 39 on earthling. offers item trade, omega virus sample to him for another item to anyone
12 -- votes two items to visorslash (who isnot going to get them)
13 -- tells earthling he's ignorant b/c he's only reading 1 post in 10,that he'll probably be lynched even if he claims something hugely protown, so if you want his vote to move make it snappy
14 -- votes holocron to diamondeye
15 -- apologizes to earthling if he is innocent, would be too busy and not remember to check the thread ifhe didn't get a votein early
Psychonaut's clearly just playing here (or wants people to believe he's just playing). Nothing here is serious. He's showing up almost every day to place a vote of no consequence or disclaimed sincerity and vote an item or two to people (minus DE yesterday, I think, and Believer earlier -- both investigation items) who are not going to get them. The only vote to date he's had much effect on is Earthling's lynch, and he apologized for that one in advance. He also seems to have slipped into the "I have no idea what's going on, look how confused I am, town" zone ever since the ACIN thing, and has never brought up ACIN again since then.
Assessment: in the scum zone, needs attention.
See the difference? Now you. Which of those 8 or 10 lurkers you mentioned are worthy of pursuing NOW, and which ones can be left until later?
i have no intention of "calling out" people, merely that there are people that imo have not been looked at all.
red_spy i would agree is another civplayah situation, i added his name to give my point more oomph by padding the list of names.
well as of right now i do not have the same kind of knowledge about the posts of lurkers as you do of psycho. so i will concede on that i dont have an alternative. which means in all likliness i might just vote for psycho.
HOWEVER, i will be doing the same post by post analysis of Crazed Rabbit, Subotan and warman to attempt to find such scumminess among those i have listed. and if this next lynch turns out to be a dud, i will have alternatives ready to suggest.
Renata has been the most active player in this thread, and she's been organizing the Town effort behind the scene, those are facts. It's very atypical of a Scum, we rarely see this. Personally I got a strong Town feeling for her, from all she's done in this game, publicly and privately.
You don't lynch a Town leader unless you have a strong case against her. Where's the case?
All I'm seeing is Kage accusing Renata for acting similarly to the last Star Wars game, a game where she was converted afaik, and I doubt that her activity level didn't change after he faction changed, but I didn't follow the game after I dropped out though. Anyway that's clearly not enough to lynch Renata. All you're going to accomplish, if you're Town, is to get other Town players to suspect you, and either attempt lynch or vig you, unless she flips Chaotic, but again, I really doubt that.
[...]
As someone on the outside looking in, I am of the opinion that Renata is probably scum, but has placed herself in the center of a group of townies- I'd say the players she's been coordinating are likely innocents, while she has been manipulating them. You guys have little reason to trust me right now... so if there is someone who is a likely town player from Renata's group, I'll switch my vote there. Just please make sure it doesn't go to Renata herself.
Bet: 1 on Renata
[...]
Why do you think she's Chaotic and has been manipulating others?
If because we haven't seen positive results yet, it's not a good reason. You know that these things happen, it's typical to this game. Everyone is wrong most of the time because of the setup, having a low % of guilty players makes it hard to find who they are.
[...]
I'll be brief now, but I'll try to elaborate on things later. I've been consciously "noncommital" in the thread to avoid the attention of mafia and vigilante alike... I started with a 10% Faction scanning item, which got stolen but I was voted a new one the same day, so I've been continually firing 10% scans into the dark, also trying to find out my hidden ability.
You said you want to see me to get in the game? I might not have a lot of credits (couple of failed creditstealing attempts), but I'll Bet 60: Renata. You can call me Charlie if she's Evil.
You just flushed your conscious non-commital plan down the toilet here. :laugh4:
If you keep 60 credits on Renata and she flips Town, you will become a big suspect and are likely to be targeted by other Town players who were working with her. If you are relying on Kage's case to place this vote, I suggest you think twice. Kage was killed on Night 1, and didn't have much chance to have private talks. All Kage is likely to have is a gut feeling, but he's unaware of what happened behind the scenes. There's no reasonable case here.
I was going to wait until my card was updated so I could check my credit amount but I think I can work it out myself.
Bet 30 credits on reneta
Not surprised by this. Greyblades is a strong suspect.
Ok, just to make sure formatting and all that, since I flubbed the first attempt.
Bet: 40 credits on Renata
WHAT ARE YOU DOING KHAAN????? :laugh4: .... :furious3::furious3::furious3:
30 minutes into the game, and you're placing a bet on the leading Town player???
I bet you didn't read the thread much, or have you been following it before? If you didn't, please do :whip:
You should reconsider that bet, Greyblades is by far a much better choice.
Bet: 60 credits on Greyblades
I don't have much time to make a case, am working tonight, but I'll try to get more posts in before the day ends.
Kagemusha
05-12-2011, 19:27
FOS Romanic. Your defense of Renata is bit unneeded anyway as you seem to be very tied to her destiny. You are on my list as well. To be clear im not talking about the Renata through out the star wars game, but Sith Renata of that game.
I think you should hang as well definetely if Renata is Chaotic.
We are mafiosi here and obviously any mafiosi with half of brain should understand not to leave the town effort in hands of the player who´s alignment you dont know. There is no point in leving loose ends, when you can be certain of things.
Crazed Rabbit
05-12-2011, 19:31
I think it's disturbing that someone can lurk a bunch and not get more attention in terms of being lynched (or coming close anyway).
Here's what I know;
Nothing about night activities or behind the scenes stuff.
MRD should be resurrected.
We should probably listen more to ACIN.
CR
I'm not mafia.
And in a game where we are all the mafia... :beam:
Nice confession.
Also, Romanic is my suspect number 4, that post he did was pure nonsense, and he is actively defending anti-mafia scum.
Diamondeye
05-12-2011, 20:05
Renata has been the most active player in this thread, and she's been organizing the Town effort behind the scene, those are facts. It's very atypical of a Scum, we rarely see this. Personally I got a strong Town feeling for her, from all she's done in this game, publicly and privately.
Some of us might not know those "facts"; Yes, she's been active (then again, aren't scum relatively active as well, normally?), and I haven't been in on the "behind the scenes" stuff.
All I'm seeing is Kage accusing Renata for acting similarly to the last Star Wars game, a game where she was converted afaik, and I doubt that her activity level didn't change after he faction changed, but I didn't follow the game after I dropped out though. Anyway that's clearly not enough to lynch Renata. All you're going to accomplish, if you're Town, is to get other Town players to suspect you, and either attempt lynch or vig you, unless she flips Chaotic, but again, I really doubt that.
The first half of this is empty oratory, then you decide to lay down general rules as to what is enough to lynch people? It's my credits, I'll be the judge of where and when I put them.
Sure, if Renata hangs, and is town, I know someone might be angry with me (Romanic for one), but that's the risk I'll run when I suspect someone. Like I do now.
You just flushed your conscious non-commital plan down the toilet here. :laugh4:
Well yes because I was asked to. Making a move eventually has to be a consideration, why not now with a sack of credits and a good suspect.
If you keep 60 credits on Renata and she flips Town, you will become a big suspect and are likely to be targeted by other Town players who were working with her. If you are relying on Kage's case to place this vote, I suggest you think twice. Kage was killed on Night 1, and didn't have much chance to have private talks. All Kage is likely to have is a gut feeling, but he's unaware of what happened behind the scenes. There's no reasonable case here.
I think I've answered this once already. Kage's suspicions are a feather in the cap but not the essentials. And (believe it or not) I know that voting 60 on a townie is a big no-go. So you should probably understand my bet as a sign of confidence in the case.
I bet you didn't read the thread much, or have you been following it before? If you didn't, please do :whip:
Rhetorics.
You should reconsider that bet, Greyblades is by far a much better choice.
And dictating what others have to do.
Bet: 60 credits on Greyblades
At least your money is where your mouth is. Are you keeping it there?
And in a game where we are all the mafia... :beam:
Nice confession.
Also, Romanic is my suspect number 4, that post he did was pure nonsense, and he is actively defending anti-mafia scum.
I think I'm going to listen to Beskar more. FOS Romanic.
For the purposes of a team victory, neutral is considered part of your team, regardless of your team. So they can go both ways. Shifty buggers.
Don't listen to Beskar, you have no idea what his goal are. As per the rules, neutrals can win with either side, let him rot in his coffin.
Thanks for all the FOS people. I feel your love.
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 20:23
Jolt's neutral and dead, I say we don't do what he wants either.
Kagemusha
05-12-2011, 20:31
Well i am evil. Resurrect me and i will get the chaotics. Listen to my advice and i will help you get the chaotics. Maybe only few remember the days when i have actually been playing a pro town role and i can be quite useful in it. This time im mafia, but still i can help save the town, so listen to me and resurrect me if im right. If im wrong, go ahead and dismiss my advice.
thefluffyone93
05-12-2011, 21:12
Well i am evil. Resurrect me and i will get the chaotics. Listen to my advice and i will help you get the chaotics. Maybe only few remember the days when i have actually been playing a pro town role and i can be quite useful in it. This time im mafia, but still i can help save the town, so listen to me and resurrect me if im right. If im wrong, go ahead and dismiss my advice.
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/raisins.png?t=1305231141
Unvote: TRIFORCE
Vote: TRIFORCE to Backwards Logic
Vote: SILENCED HANDGUN to Yaseikhaan
Vote: OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE to myself
Don't listen to Beskar, you have no idea what his goal are. As per the rules, neutrals can win with either side, let him rot in his coffin.
Thanks for all the FOS people. I feel your love.
Actually, you know I am not an anti-mafia and since I was killed.. well.. I am really going to work with my killers.
Plus I will rez Kagemusha.
hologram emitter to Shlin28
a completely inoffensive name
05-12-2011, 23:19
Yeah, I am not real comfortable in just handing a few people all the items.
Bus drivers are the best defense against the mafia and right now, I think they need to be spread out before Renata and shlin just tell everyone they are legit allow us to give the items to whomever we want.
VOTE ITEM: Mobile hologram emitter to myself
All items should be contested over and I haven't seen anybody else go for it besides shlin.
dcmort93
05-12-2011, 23:36
For the time being I'll bet 30 credits on Greyblades due to his rather scummy behavior thus far, but this will change if a better candidate appears
Also If I'm inactive for a few days I'm in the process of setting up a new PC
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 23:48
My, my. Thats two lurkers crawling out of the woodwork to defend reneta, both with a fair amount of credits to throw around if I were to judge. If reneta does turn out to be scum we wont have a problem figuring out her partners.
Raise: 20 credits on reneta
You're so full of it, Greyblades. Why do you have so much cash to throw around anyway? What have you been doing at night?
Greyblades
05-12-2011, 23:54
Roleblocking and protections mostly. I haven't been spending it killing off people at random.
What a coincidence, neither have I.
Roleblocks and protections cost money, rather a lot of it. You could do one with an item, but only one. Who'd you roleblock?
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 00:05
Roleblocks and protections cost money, rather a lot of it. You could do one with an item, but only one. Who'd you roleblock?
Actually they dont cost money, the cash only increases the success rate, go read the rules again then come back and tell the class what you learned.
My roleblocking:
Night 1 noone - not paying attention to game, had bigger fish to fry in another.
night 2 blackadder succeeded
Night 3 fluffy failed
night 4 you, failed
Night 5 Subotan failed
Pity I only started to suspect you properly after pizza said he wouldnt take any more orders on night 5.
a completely inoffensive name
05-13-2011, 00:09
If you guys are distrustful of Renata vote to give me the bus driver.
Don't vote to lynch her because she could be legit and if she dies and is mafia, then we just lost our core network.
Spread these items out to those that want them that are not on Renata's favorite list and vote for psycho so we can see who she is.
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 00:11
Right now its her or me so... no.
Still...
Vote [MOBILE HOLOGRAM EMITTER] to ACIN
There are other people worth entrusting it to, you do realise that? I don't trust you, Renata or ACIN. I trusted Autolycus and Backwards Logic.
Believer also has my trust.
a completely inoffensive name
05-13-2011, 00:22
There are other people worth entrusting it to, you do realise that? I don't trust you, Renata or ACIN. I trusted Autolycus and Backwards Logic.
Believer also has my trust.
lolol that's cool. just as long as we are not all ******* one person's **** who turns out be chaotic, I'm cool with it. We need more distrust, we need more criticism in here.
I think Greyblades is playing awesome, go for it Grey, show us how great you can be!
Don't listen to the detractors.
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 00:41
What's the tally?
Reneta: 151 (Diamondeye 60, Greyblades 50, khaan 40, chaotix 1)
Greyblades: 105 (Romanic 60, DCmort 30, reneta 10, shlin 5)
diamond eye: 10 (backwards logic 10)
mythmonster: 5 (godemperor 5)
I might have made a mistake but I think that is in order.
I think Greyblades is playing awesome, go for it Grey, show us how great you can be!
Thanks, it feels good to let loose after spending the entire mafia's comeback watching every word I said.
Everyone on the list voting for Greyblades is anti-mafia or some one who has been cohorted in working with scum.
He is a man with a plan and he is going to build a canal through the scum to deliver a town victory.
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 00:45
...Your just mucking with me now, arent you?
...Still, praise is praise.
So this is what it feels like to be fluffy
...Your just mucking with me now, arent you?
Still, praise is praise.
I am not mucking you about, I want you confident and ready, you got a fight on your hands, the scum will pull out all the stops to save your lynch target. Anyone who is a loyal mafia should support Greyblades.
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 00:51
And if it fails and she turns out to be town or I get lynched in her place the writeup for my lynching will be hillarious.
Win-win
Good lord I dont know how fluffy can stand this.
Believer also has my trust.
ORLY?
PM please.
And if it fails and she turns out to be town or I get lynched in her place the writeup for my lynching will be hillarious.
Win-win
She did say she was town and not a evil mafia.
Perhaps you should kill off the town leader (as Romanic put it) and replace it with a Evil Mafia Information Network.
Be a Hero.
Forget the PM, Visor, you can say it in public -- why did you imply to me earlier today that Believer was a huge suspect of yours? I quote:
"I suggest you put pressure on Believer."
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 01:19
She did say she was town and not a evil mafia.
Perhaps you should kill off the town leader (as Romanic put it) and replace it with a Evil Mafia Information Network.
Be a Hero.
Wow you could give jaffar a run for his money.
If you havent noticed I'm pretty much as good as dead, if reneta wins this turn I die, if I win and she's innocent I die next day assuming I'm not vigilante'd in the night and if she is mafia her friends will kill me eventually, a 10% retrbution chance isnt much against a panicking mafia and the 100 credits I would win would only last a day's protection. So you'll understand if setting up an evil townie network is not a priority for me right now.
If Renata dies and isn't Chaotic, I'm going to add Greyblades and Diamondeye to the list of "players to be haunted by ghosts for a while."
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 01:22
Pity I'll be a ghost myself within a day.
thefluffyone93
05-13-2011, 01:22
And if it fails and she turns out to be town or I get lynched in her place the writeup for my lynching will be hillarious.
Win-win
Good lord I dont know how fluffy can stand this.
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https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/sergeant.png?t=1305246155
Actually they dont cost money, the cash only increases the success rate, go read the rules again then come back and tell the class what you learned.
My roleblocking:
Night 1 noone - not paying attention to game, had bigger fish to fry in another.
night 2 blackadder succeeded
Night 3 fluffy failed
night 4 you, failed
Night 5 Subotan failed
Pity I only started to suspect you properly after pizza said he wouldnt take any more orders on night 5.
You should read the rules yourself; you get freebies only if you have a hidden ability in that area, and if that's what you're suggesting here you got lucky twice over, both with nabbing your hidden ability on the first try and with having it actually work -- most hidden abilities are rather minor in terms of percentages. So it's either a coincidence, a lie, or you were using a low-percentage item and not a free ability at all, contrary to your implication. Did CB mention being roleblocked? Why did you roleblock these people?
Wow you could give jaffar a run for his money.
He could, couldn't he.
If you havent noticed I'm pretty much as good as dead, if reneta wins this turn I die, if I win and she's innocent I die next day assuming I'm not vigilante'd in the night and if she is mafia her friends will kill me eventually, a 10% retrbution chance isnt much against a panicking mafia and the 100 credits I would win would only last a day's protection. So you'll understand if setting up an evil townie network is not a priority for me right now.
Why are you assuming it's you or me? There's over 24 hours to go.
I roleblocked Autolycus.
Ah. Some of the fog begins to clear. But still, answer my question.
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 01:46
You should read the rules yourself; you get freebies only if you have a hidden ability in that area, and if that's what you're suggesting here you got lucky twice over, both with nabbing your hidden ability on the first try and with having it actually work -- most hidden abilities are rather minor in terms of percentages. So it's either a coincidence, a lie, or you were using a low-percentage item and not a free ability at all, contrary to your implication.
Quote from the first page:
12. Night- Actions
Every player can perform either zero, one, or two actions every night, and no more than that. These actions are often less than 100% effective. Failed actions will usually not be reported in the public writeups.
Players can choose one action apiece from a maximum of two of the following categories:
1. Item-based actions. Example: "I use my gun to shoot Seamus Fermanagh"
2. Money-based actions. Example: "I spend 50 credits to protect Seamus Fermanagh"
3. Skill-based actions. Example: "I roleblock Seamus Fermanagh." (note, no items or money indicated here, so neither will be used in this action)
Skill-based actions are useful in determining if you have hidden, innate abilities to perform certain tasks. Every character in the game has one hidden talent, and some can be found via this method.
Some characters begin the game with an already learned ability that requires no items or credits to perform, and they will execute such actions with a great degree of skill. Other characters can learn such skills from repeated attempts at performing that task, especially if they are done successfully.
No matter what, only a maximum of two actions allowed per player per night phase.
Example: "Tonight I protect Sasaki Kojiro with my magic shield. I also spend 25 credits scanning Seamus Fermanagh with a faction scan." (bolded parts are the key bits of information I need. You do not need to bold these. Send orders via private message only.)
Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.
1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vig-kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver
(switch two players so the effects applied to each will apply to the other... useful as a defensive or offensive weapon)12. Steal item
13. Steal credits Derp. Dunno what I was thinking. You always have to spend credits to steal credits.
My roleblock is an item based ability and protecting myself or others is a skill based ability. So yeah I am allowed to use both in one night.
Did CB mention being roleblocked? Why did you roleblock these people?
No, I did it at random in the hope that i would succeed hopefully resulting in the prevention of a night kill
If Renata dies and isn't Chaotic, I'm going to add Greyblades and Diamondeye to the list of "players to be haunted by ghosts for a while."
Well, you know there are other things, right?
We've had serial killers, neutrals... none of these are evil mafia.
Don't put your eggs in the basket just yet, there may be far greater dangers.
robbiecon
05-13-2011, 01:54
As promised, a vote for me for Rabbity the Rabbit is equal to a vote to you:
Utility Flashlight to Yaseikhaan
Silenced Handgun to Yaseikhaan
Greyblades
05-13-2011, 02:14
Why are you assuming it's you or me? There's over 24 hours to go.
Maybe, but it would take a big thing to undo the last 3 days of confused debates, dubious reveals and goofing around. Plus I'm running out of things to reveal and... I think it will take more than 24 hours to figure out what I was thinking when I decided to reveal practically everything about my character.
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