Futuramafia [Concluded]

[El Barto]

I suck? so I'm the only one that sucks? or do others suck.

and are you going to do anything else other than say meatbag?
Yes, I'm saving my shiny metal ass. Anyone who votes for me sucks.

there are plenty of other wagons you could experiment with...there is PLENTY of time before EOD.

selfsave excuse DENIED!
In a mere two hours? Dream on, meatbag. Votes are movable. Convince me to vote for someone other than you. If you are up to it.

is it a moneymaking scheme?
Would you be inclined to share?

[CrimsonFox]

Word on the street is he dropped a baby on someone's head. It's actually amazing he doesn't have more votes dping something as sick as that. Just goes to show how depraved the world has become.

vote: Fox I think he wanted more pressure or something. That and he was the last to post before I thumbed my way through this post on my phone.


General impressions:

DP strongest town read; the vibe/tone/attitude" approach to hunting is harder to fake and generally less favorable to wolves in my experience, and I feel that strongly from DP.

Don't understand Murska's vote shift onto Cuth if that was a serious vote.

Crimson Fox looks a little jumpy.

Nothing else sticks in my mind right now.

I think I'll switch to Vote: Crimso Fox and see what happens.

these two votes not impressed with a bunch. At least general is here making his bad reads and all.

vote: bsmith

[spaceman98]

unvote: vote: BSmith

lets make this happen cuz I feel like it

[El Barto]

I'll bite. For now.

vote: BSmith

[CrimsonFox]

atheotes vote on me kinda not alignment indicative

i know him to post in spurts

[Zack]

Official Tally

5 CrimsonFox (seireikhaan, BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)

4 BSmith (Al Sipsclar, CrimsonFox, spaceman98, El Barto)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Dp101, Winston Hughes)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)
2 novice (Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

1 Dp101 (Montmorency)
1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 spaceman98 (Visor)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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1 Not Voting: Stork

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

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Ordering within the tiers is purely alphabetical. Ties broken by random number generator.

[Dp101]

I don't hate it. Vote: BSmith

[Stork]

oh golly, the day ends in an hour

[Stork]

cuth is almost certainly town, not sure what pizza and murska are doing there

[Stork]

Given that all of us except you newbie meatbags tend not to play seriously, this is a highly irregular game. How can we have such large waggons on Day One?

*gets more electricity*

this post is deliciously wolfy

[seireikhaan]

Hmmm... I tend to feel like Fox *probably* isn't mafia, pretty aggressive for that on day one. On the other hand, I don't really have tolerance for personal insults, so I think I'll take my chances and leave my vote where it is. Let's see how a tie breaks down.

[Stork]

Hmmm... I tend to feel like Fox *probably* isn't mafia, pretty aggressive for that on day one. On the other hand, I don't really have tolerance for personal insults, so I think I'll take my chances and leave my vote where it is. Let's see how a tie breaks down.

wanton lust to tank the lynch for personal reasons seems suboptimal

if you are a town and this is your thought, colour me impressed.

[CrimsonFox]

Hmmm... I tend to feel like Fox *probably* isn't mafia, pretty aggressive for that on day one. On the other hand, I don't really have tolerance for personal insults, so I think I'll take my chances and leave my vote where it is. Let's see how a tie breaks down.

so you WANT to kill someone you think is town.

so like...why did you guys try to recruit from offsite...

i don't recall ever insulting you...but if you give me a second i can come up with a doozy

[Stork]

feels like a spot where we can kill a wolf, but will fail to

[CrimsonFox]

feels like a spot where we can kill a wolf, but will fail to

ehhehe but oh that sweet sweet info

[El Barto]

cuth is almost certainly town, not sure what pizza and murska are doing there
How do you know this? Perfect Information Syndrome?

this post is deliciously wolfy
Says the meatbag posting from a cellphone.

[CrimsonFox]

Okay, what the heck, we got 5 days of posting and people talking about getting reads and feelings based on day 1? This aint daddy's old GR, it seems.

Okay, I'm a bit out of the loop, and there's other offenders doing similar things but. How the heck do you have a wolf feeling on anyone? It's day 1. Practically nothing has happened. Is this a meta thing that went over my head?


Vote: CrimsonFox

I get off work and and am trying to get some clarifying on 5 pages of posting that mostly has gone over my head and suddenly I'm a whiner? Take your spite vote.

ah i remember. because i said you were whining. I didn't totally mean babywhining. But your complaints are totally ridiculous.
you complained at me for actually playing the game. That is indeed whining.

Don't sign up if you don't want to play.

[CrimsonFox]

El you are at least sounding in the flow of things despite your earlier posts looking gawdawful

[El Barto]

It's very noticeable that you've never played with seireikhaan before, meatbag.

[seireikhaan]

so you WANT to kill someone you think is town.

so like...why did you guys try to recruit from offsite...

i don't recall ever insulting you...but if you give me a second i can come up with a doozy


ah i remember. because i said you were whining. I didn't totally mean babywhining. But your complaints are totally ridiculous.
you complained at me for actually playing the game. That is indeed whining.

Don't sign up if you don't want to play.

I mean, I haven't even recruited from on-site in ages, never mind off-site. Anyways, yeah, sorry, but I'm not gonna pretend like the rest of y'all that I have some great, impenetrable read that pierces the fog on day 1. There's some stuff that'll probably be interesting in retrospect. But right now, 98% of it's a bunch of hokey. But hey, apparently asking someone to clarify how they acquired a day one lean on someone is a bunch of complaining for losers who don't even want to play. Gotcha.

[Stork]

Vote: El Barto

[El Barto]

Vote: El Barto
You need some electricity, son.

[Stork]

I mean, I haven't even recruited from on-site in ages, never mind off-site. Anyways, yeah, sorry, but I'm not gonna pretend like the rest of y'all that I have some great, impenetrable read that pierces the fog on day 1. There's some stuff that'll probably be interesting in retrospect. But right now, 98% of it's a bunch of hokey. But hey, apparently asking someone to clarify how they acquired a day one lean on someone is a bunch of complaining for losers who don't even want to play. Gotcha.

I am failing to understand why the bolded means you would vote against your read.

You have the read, you gave the read, but it seems like you don't care about it?

[CrimsonFox]

Don't sign up if you don't want to play.

i regret saying this. it was stupid and hypocritical and i'm sorry. we've all got our things.

[Stork]

fox very likely a villager too

kinda think bsmith might be a villager based on wagons, but its a bit thin for me to be confident right now

[Visor]

stork/fox/smith

wolves

[CrimsonFox]

fox very likely a villager too

kinda think bsmith might be a villager based on wagons, but its a bit thin for me to be confident right now

the bsmith wagon did indeed start kinda quick

i'd almost guess who el is or at least pretending to be. But he's been quoting up a storm lately.

what you think of pelican and general?

[El Barto]

fox very likely a villager too
I am failing to understand why the bolded means CrimsonFox is likely a villager.

[CrimsonFox]

stork/fox/smith

wolves

so I START a smith wagon instead of trying to finish off el....right?

[Visor]

fox is a wolf from his weird reactions - early game posts
bsmith is a busser who is bussing fox
stork is trying to save them, his village reads on them are ???

the cfd of smith was pure anyway

/tinfoil

[Stork]

I have Barto as null for the most part, but after going back and checking the Cuthilius/novice exchange I think it's a good look on him, especially if the flips go correctly.

this bolded bit makes my mind race but im not sure what to make of it

i think it might be thinly villagery

[CrimsonFox]

I am failing to understand why the bolded means CrimsonFox is likely a villager.

this sentence hurts my head

[El Barto]

stork/fox/smith

wolves
Then vote BSmith for the lynch, meatbag!

[Visor]

so I START a smith wagon instead of trying to finish off el....right?

this argument isnt goingto hold water as everybody knows it would look sus if you tried to finish off el

and plenty of wolves go for the start new wagon trick

i'm not reading into it either way and it means nothing for your alignment

[CrimsonFox]

fox is a wolf from his weird reactions - early game posts
bsmith is a busser who is bussing fox
stork is trying to save them, his village reads on them are ???

the cfd of smith was pure anyway

/tinfoil

and visor is a lying wolf who is setting us all up?
vote: visor

[Stork]

I am failing to understand why the bolded means CrimsonFox is likely a villager.

i have seen fox play a few different games, this one he seems to have more investment in his reads than he usually does as scum, he seems to be approaching people with a gravitas that is unlike his usual fluffy non-challant wolf game.

[El Barto]

this sentence hurts my head
Why? Stork is just saying that you are a ‘likely townie’ without any justification whatsoever, meatbag!

[CrimsonFox]

tally

[Visor]

and visor is a lying wolf who is setting us all up?
vote: visor


it was me all along

[Stork]

why would i need to save 2 people at eod by town reading them when the thread is dead?

i could just vote the person i voted, get them to vote the person i voted and then neither of them would have any chance of dying

your post doesn't make sense visor

[El Barto]

i have seen fox play a few different games, this one he seems to have more investment in his reads than he usually does as scum, he seems to be approaching people with a gravitas that is unlike his usual fluffy non-challant wolf game.
I like how you did not post this before. Wait, I don't and it's very scummy of you.

[Visor]

takhisis is kinda wolfy anyway


spaceman is definitely a wolf

[CrimsonFox]

i have seen fox play a few different games, this one he seems to have more investment in his reads than he usually does as scum, he seems to be approaching people with a gravitas that is unlike his usual fluffy non-challant wolf game.

i resent that. my village game is fluffy too

http://justcuteanimals.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/cute-animals-angora-bunny-fluffy-rabbit-pics.jpg

[Montmorency]

so I START a smith wagon instead of trying to finish off el....right?

Nah, that's a perfectly plausible tactic for a game with reveals. Then you would kill Barto tonight, and by D2 everyone forgets all about D1.

[CrimsonFox]

it was me all along

the visor did it

[El Barto]

tally
Ahah, robots don't work for you here.

Wait, we do, but only if you pay us.

[Stork]

I like how you did not post this before. Wait, I don't and it's very scummy of you.

no it isn't

[Montmorency]

Visor, you're making me feel bad with all the abbreviations and scum-reads. Come on.

[CrimsonFox]

Why? Stork is just saying that you are a ‘likely townie’ without any justification whatsoever, meatbag!

he's giving a read of me. plain and simple but your sentence about it doesn't make sense

[Visor]

you guys could just lynch spaceman with me

[CrimsonFox]

Ahah, robots don't work for you here.

Wait, we do, but only if you pay us.

i'd be careful about hinting roles. are there charviges here?

[seireikhaan]

i regret saying this. it was stupid and hypocritical and i'm sorry. we've all got our things.
Apology accepted. I expect some basic courtesy playing this game. If you want a real .org tradition, not a GR tradition but for the place as a whole, that's a good place to start.


Unvote: CrimsonFox
Vote: Bsmith


Not a wagon I feel great about necessarily, but I'd prefer Barto's antics, and is fox is more likely town than Bsmith.

[Montmorency]

are there charviges here?

We don't speak French here.

[CrimsonFox]

We don't speak French here.

a wolf role that can instakill you if you claim your role even during the day. all they have to do is guess what it is

[CrimsonFox]

tally

*kicks the thread*

[Dp101]

a wolf role that can instakill you if you claim your role even during the day. all they have to do is guess what it is

That is the worst idea I have ever heard. I really hate roles that discourage town from sharing info.

[Visor]

That is the worst idea I have ever heard. I really hate roles that discourage town from sharing info.

its mostly for games with high amounts of town prs to combat the 'clear' nature of those roles

[CrimsonFox]

more people here than i thought :)

so lynch is in 48 minutes, not 18?

[CrimsonFox]

That is the worst idea I have ever heard. I really hate roles that discourage town from sharing info.

so am i guessing that's a "no" on what typiucally is here?

[CrimsonFox]

can we PLEASE get a tally?

[Dp101]

so am i guessing that's a "no" on what typiucally is here?

I honestly have no idea on what kind of games are usually run here, I haven't really read any games on this site.

[CrimsonFox]

Ugh stupid tally was outdated. Ignore me. Back to fully null for you.

And Crimson, this is pretty much in line with his D1 meta.

hey hanky

go on with this read on el barto plox...

[Visor]

so am i guessing that's a "no" on what typiucally is here?
yes

though zack might add some, but i doubt it

[Stork]

visor if you are a villager your reads are pretty bad, at least those three you gave

spaceman might be right tho, but feels unlikely you get there today

[Montmorency]

I don't like that idea so much. A better idea might be to have secondary roles that can affect a specific counterpart player, and vice versa (without mutual knowledge). And it should have some public component in the thread. Simply privately guessing something for an effect isn't interesting. Players should communicate with each other, not with the host.

[Stork]

hypothetical mechanics discussion 12 minutes from eod

well, i guess that's something

[Visor]

visor if you are a villager your reads are pretty bad, at least those three you gave

spaceman might be right tho, but feels unlikely you get there today

its only not gonna get there if you guys dont vote with me

so vote with me

[CrimsonFox]

oh and i was only partially pointing fingers at newbie gunners but it was more a general thing. every site everywhere always guns for newbies simply because they don't know them. sad facts

[Montmorency]

You aren't posting tallies as usual, so I have no idea what the vote count is. :smug:

[CrimsonFox]

hypothetical mechanics discussion 12 minutes from eod

well, i guess that's something

the timer says there is more time....

dammit how much time do we have

[Stork]

its only not gonna get there if you guys dont vote with me

so vote with me

aight

Vote: spaceman98

[CrimsonFox]

Official Tally

6 CrimsonFox (seireikhaan, BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn, El Barto)

4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Dp101, Winston Hughes)

3 novice (spaceman98, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)
2 GeneralHankerchief (novice, CrimsonFox)

1 BSmith (Al Sipsclar)
1 Dp101 (Montmorency)
1 spaceman98 (Visor)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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1 Not Voting: Stork

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

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Ordering within the tiers is purely alphabetical. Ties broken by random number generator.

this old tally says 38 minutes

[Stork]

the timer says there is more time....

dammit how much time do we have

oh wait, no, you are right

i think the point still stands regardless

[CrimsonFox]

aight

Vote: spaceman98

you trusting visor?

[CrimsonFox]

9:30 PM is such a weird time....

[Visor]

you trusting visor?

i'd trust visor

[CrimsonFox]

that's so wolfy dude :)
hahahahaha

[Stork]

you trusting visor?

not especially, but just for now I want to see where/if this goes somewhere

i probably have a super super slight v lean on him right now amybe actually

[Dp101]

I used to trust visor, but I don't trust stork.

[Montmorency]

Voting for No Lynch is allowed. Abstaining is not allowed at any time.

Oh, I wish I had pointed this out before, but arguing for No Lynch is considered to be noble and clearing here. Too late for it today, I suppose.

[Stork]

I used to trust visor, but I don't trust stork.

this is the way a villager approaches the situation i think btw

:thumb:

[CrimsonFox]

meh i'm firmly in stork's pocket but his progression on me seems natural. he has good writers

[Al Sipsclar]

[melodramatically] Oh, fate most cruel, would that my boundless acting skills would avail me a sword with which to slay this wretched curse.

Vote: El Barto

Don't have time to read the whole thread, though.

[CrimsonFox]

i seriously hope people aren't RPing their roles...

[Stork]

Oh, I wish I had pointed this out before, but arguing for No Lynch is considered to be noble and clearing here. Too late for it today, I suppose.

nah, it is pretty bad.

town has a static amount of kills in the game, choosing to flush one for ???no reason??? is not good (imo)

[Visor]

i think stork is a wolf

[Cuthillius]

likely not around for eod

but i can get behind

vote:spaceman

i hate the bsmith wagon

there's like almost seriously no reasoning

it's so dirty

[Stork]

montmorency might be a wolf because it seems like he only cares about discussing the game in an overall sense, void of emotionn or wim, when he could be discussing the actual game

[CrimsonFox]

i think stork is a wolf

and you think i'm a wolf too right?
and bsmith?

[Stork]

i think stork is a wolf

ur bad lmao

[Cuthillius]

i think stork is a wolf

i actually kinda agree

[Cuthillius]

montmorency might be a wolf because it seems like he only cares about discussing the game in an overall sense, void of emotionn or wim, when he could be discussing the actual game

nah he's just an orger

[CrimsonFox]

vote: pelican

pelican wagon flapflapflap

[Zack]

Official Tally

4 BSmith (spaceman98, El Barto, Dp101, seireikhaan)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Al Sipsclar)

3 spaceman98 (Visor, Stork, Cuthillius)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 Dp101 (Montmorency)
1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 novice (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Pelican(CrimsonFox)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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0 Not Voting: -

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

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Ordering within the tiers is purely alphabetical. Ties broken by random number generator.

[Cuthillius]

and you think i'm a wolf too right?
and bsmith?

you actually are kinda whining now :/

please drop this line

[Zack]

I am human, not a robot who is around every minute. Make your own unofficial tallies if you really can't wait, I am doing this by hand.

[Stork]

nah he's just an orger

does that mean it is villagery (iyo) or are you saying it is null?

[Dp101]

Visor and cuthillius are wolves together, or stork, with the other scum filled in by El Barto or General or Winston if after lynching the first few we don't win.

[CrimsonFox]

you actually are kinda whining now :/

please drop this line

http://img.youtube.com/vi/S2kbmUyBaM4/0.jpg

it's not quite wine yet

[CrimsonFox]

does that mean it is villagery (iyo) or are you saying it is null?

orgasmic villager?

[CrimsonFox]

smith not being here makes me nervous.

also cuth i was clarifying whether he still thinks we're all wolves or if that was a total joke

[CrimsonFox]

gotta read spaceman i guess

[El Barto]

Vote: El Barto

Don't have time to read the whole thread, though.
Even someone like you should notice how illogical and scummy that is. And I know for certain you were scum last game.

metalfingerofsuspicion: Al Sipsclar

i seriously hope people aren't RPing their roles...
How the hell not, meatbag?

vote: pelican

pelican wagon flapflapflap
wtf

[Montmorency]

nah, it is pretty bad.

town has a static amount of kills in the game, choosing to flush one for ???no reason??? is not good (imo)

When I first started out, I loved No Lynches. Later on, I got a power role in a small game that gained strength from every No Lynch. :laugh4:

Wasn't that a Visor game? :thinking:


montmorency might be a wolf because it seems like he only cares about discussing the game in an overall sense, void of emotionn or wim, when he could be discussing the actual game

It's not yet the hyperventilation phase.

[El Barto]

3 spaceman98 (Visor, Stork) Zack: Eh?

[El Barto]

Also, vote: CrimsonFox

[Al Sipsclar]

Oh, we actually can lynch Vote: BSmith, interesting.

[Stork]

Zack: Eh?

+cuth

[Zack]

Zack: Eh?

fixed

[CrimsonFox]

Vote: CrimsonFox

as much as I don't like voting people new to the site, i like the vote

probably wrong on gh, jury is out on winston

dp is okay

the guy who said stuff about when do we start playing is probably a villager but his tone is meh

monty is meh

stork is meh but probably a villager

visor, why did stork become a scumread

[El Barto]

Great, Zack, I just love it when GMs forbid us from editing posts and then go and edit posts.

Hell no I don't. :p

Oh, we actually can lynch Vote: BSmith, interesting.
lolwut

[Zack]

Official Tally

5 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)

3 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes)
3 spaceman98 (Visor, Stork, Cuthillius)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 Dp101 (Montmorency)
1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 novice (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Pelican(CrimsonFox)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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0 Not Voting: -

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

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Ordering within the tiers is purely alphabetical. Ties broken by random number generator.

[CrimsonFox]

5 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan,Al Sipsclar)
5 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn,El Barto)

3 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, )
3 spaceman98 (Visor, Stork, Cuthillius)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 Dp101 (Montmorency)
1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 novice (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Pelican(CrimsonFox)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

[Zack]

Great, Zack, I just love it when GMs forbid us from editing posts and then go and edit posts.

:pleased:

[Montmorency]

Guys, please, this is how you do it:

Unvote: Dp101
Vote: Spaceman

[CrimsonFox]

el you aren't removing notions of scuminity now

[Stork]

Vote: El Barto

[El Barto]

el you aren't removing notions of scuminity now
That's not even a word, you meatbag.

[Stork]

cuth are you still here?

can you go over why you told me to run back my read on mont?

[Zack]

Official Tally

5 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)

3 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 novice (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Pelican(CrimsonFox)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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0 Not Voting: -

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

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Ordering within the tiers is purely alphabetical. Ties broken by random number generator.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: novice
Vote: spaceman98

No read on him at all but I like the people on his wagon.

[CrimsonFox]

two spaceman posts i don't like so sure

vote: spaceman

[CrimsonFox]

unvote: pelican
vote: spaceman

[Al Sipsclar]

Even someone like you should notice how illogical and scummy that is. And I know for certain you were scum last game.

metalfingerofsuspicion: Al Sipsclar


You may be my evil half-brother, but there's no law against murdering the other half. :laugh4:

[Stork]

Vote: Spaceman

[Dp101]

Vote: El Barto

Thanks for helping to make my decision not to kill him easier. Unless you are mafia who will switch off and are only making the vote in order to stop me going for him, in which case screw you for clouding my judgement.

[Visor]

i think dp is a villager

i think monty is mildly villagery

[Zack]

Official Tally

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, Stork)

5 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)

3 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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0 Not Voting: -

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

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Ordering within the tiers is purely alphabetical. Ties broken by random number generator.

[CrimsonFox]

el, are you even trying to be town

[Dp101]

aaaand nevermind, thread moving too fast for quotes.

[El Barto]

el, are you even trying to be town
I think you mean ‘act’ town, you meatbag.

[Stork]

Thanks for helping to make my decision not to kill him easier. Unless you are mafia who will switch off and are only making the vote in order to stop me going for him, in which case screw you for clouding my judgement.

ok, you do you then.

your confidence in your read on me springboarding AGAINST your read on him seems pretty terrible (particularly fmpov) but best of luck in your endeavours

[Visor]

two spaceman posts i don't like so sure

vote: spaceman

this is a mindboggling post

[Dp101]

Let me state at this time for the record that spaceman is in no way mafia, he is going down way too easily out of nowhere.

[CrimsonFox]

this is a mindboggling post

FU, uncle

[El Barto]

Visorslash is detected posting from a cellphone!

[CrimsonFox]

i have very little time and didn't find many spaceman posts...the two i saw were popin and vote with snark
didn't like em

[GeneralHankerchief]

Let me state at this time for the record that spaceman is in no way mafia, he is going down way too easily out of nowhere.

What's your world where spaceman is town? BSmith/Fox/??? ?

[Stork]

el barto are you still here?

what is your read on visor, particularly based on this eod and his most recent string of posts?

[CrimsonFox]

screw this i'm claiming...

i'm vig

[Visor]

When I first started out, I loved No Lynches. Later on, I got a power role in a small game that gained strength from every No Lynch. :laugh4:

Wasn't that a Visor game? :thinking:



It's not yet the hyperventilation phase.

it was, called the communist

[CrimsonFox]

i don't see visor and/or others not sniping me

[Dp101]

What's your world where spaceman is town? BSmith/Fox/??? ?

Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

[Montmorency]

Let me state at this time for the record that spaceman is in no way mafia, he is going down way too easily out of nowhere.

But then why BSmith?

[CrimsonFox]

repeat I am a TOWN VIG

[El Barto]

unvote: Crimson Fox

[GeneralHankerchief]

Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

Do you buy the claim here?

[Stork]

shoot el barto :thumb:

[Al Sipsclar]

Don't you dare call that lame. Your tiny bit of almost-RP is still better than me not trying to make any references/jokes with the setup.

This somewhat feels like a buddying attempt, actually.

[Stork]

novice is a noted non-topic for someone who was getting peppered earlier today btw

hard to tell exactly what peoples feelings are though

[CrimsonFox]

is there talking at night or does thread close?

[Dp101]

Do you buy the claim here?

Claim makes me more suspicious if it was done to evade trackers.

[Zack]

Official Tally

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, Stork)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)

3 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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1 Not Voting: El Barto

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

[El Barto]

is there talking at night or does thread close?
From the rules, post #2:

~ Posting is allowed during both the Day and Night phases.

[Stork]

Claim makes me more suspicious if it was done to evade trackers.

no way this can be a real thought egads

[Zack]

is there talking at night or does thread close?

...


~ Posting is allowed during both the Day and Night phases.

[Dp101]

no way this can be a real thought egads

Sorry, let me clarify. Claim does not make him mafia, but can make him look less suspicious later. I still think he is town.

[Stork]

Vote: El Barto

could see both barto and spaceman being wolves given the unvote here actually though

[El Barto]

shoot el barto :thumb:
Yeah, right, I'm the one who's changed his vote so that attempts on lynching the *claimed* vig at the last minute are harder. I don't see any of you meatbags doing that.

[CrimsonFox]

where IS everybody

[Visor]

kill barto and spaceman

seems fine to me

[El Barto]

Vote: El Barto

could see both barto and spaceman being wolves given the unvote here actually though
vote: Spaceman98

[Visor]

Yeah, right, I'm the one who's changed his vote so that attempts on lynching the *claimed* vig at the last minute are harder. I don't see any of you meatbags doing that.

some of us meatbags are not voting fox

[Cuthillius]

does that mean it is villagery (iyo) or are you saying it is null?

null

[Montmorency]

Unfelicitous time for a claim. You were fine, Crimson. Visor, deja vu?

[Stork]

null

do you think i should care about your opinion on the subject then?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry, let me clarify. Claim does not make him mafia, but can make him look less suspicious later. I still think he is town.

This doesn't play with the above:


What's your world where spaceman is town? BSmith/Fox/??? ?
Probably. Cuthillius next in that list.

[Zack]

Official Tally

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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1 Not Voting: El Barto

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm fine with spaceman swinging here.

[CrimsonFox]

Unfelicitous time for a claim. You were fine, Crimson. Visor, deja vu?

i was NOT fine. 10 minutes left and people were STILL bringing up my name. one flipsnipe and i'm dead

[Cuthillius]

cuth are you still here?

can you go over why you told me to run back my read on mont?

back

you're reading him for stuff that's normal given location

[Montmorency]

Well, if I'm correct, Visor is the one able to tell us how this sort of thing will go.

[Dp101]

This doesn't play with the above:

Don't see why.

[El Barto]

i was NOT fine. 10 minutes left and people were STILL bringing up my name. one flipsnipe and i'm dead
My poitn exactly. Stork is disingenious, but there's no time to lynch him. Vig him tonight, mr. vig!

[Visor]

i feel less confident on spaceman given wagonments

still fine with him flipping

el barto dying tonight is good

clear out those wagons

[Cuthillius]

i was NOT fine. 10 minutes left and people were STILL bringing up my name. one flipsnipe and i'm dead

you were totally fine and you shouldn't have claimed

[Cuthillius]

i feel less confident on spaceman given wagonments

still fine with him flipping

el barto dying tonight is good

clear out those wagons

++1

[El Barto]

you were totally fine and you shouldn't have claimed
I wouldn't have changed my vote if he hadn't claimed.

[Zack]

Voting for Day 1 is over. Last post before deadline was #426. DO NOT POST.

[Cuthillius]

I wouldn't have changed my vote if he hadn't claimed.

yes i don't care

he still shouldn't have claimed

he was very unlikely to be lynched there

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't see why.

You said Fox was likely scum in the world where spaceman was town (which you believed) and then you said Fox was still probably town in reaction to his claim.

[Zack]

Official Tally

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

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1 Not Voting: El Barto

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Voting ends in: tunnel snakes rule

This was the final tally. spaceman98 is the lynch.

[Zack]

https://i.imgur.com/9Zri26G.jpg


Zack: "I've just finished my dinner. Who are we killing today?"

GeneralHankerchief
Winston Hughes
Cuthillius
BSmith
CrimsonFox
El Barto
spaceman98

Zack: "spaceman98 it is."

The spaceman is shoved in front of Zack's shiny metal throne.

Zack: "Any last words, man from space?"

spaceman98: "If only I was a little more compulsive..."

pew pew

-------

"This is it, the moment we should've trained for." - spaceman98

https://i.imgur.com/3d0cf0H.png


Turanga Leela


Player: spaceman98

Role: Leela (https://theinfosphere.org/Turanga_Leela)

Faction: TOWN
-------

It is now Night One.

Night actions due by: tunnel snakes rule

[Zack]

Alive: 21

Al Sipsclar
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
BSmith
Choxorn
CrimsonFox
Cuthillius
Dp101
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Montmorency
Murska
Newyn
novice
Pelican
Riedquat
seireikhaan
Stork
Visor
Winston Hughes

---

Lynched: 1

d1 - spaceman98 - Leela

[Zack]

You may now post.

[Cuthillius]

post

[El Barto]

Well, we… saved a vig?

[Stork]

shocker

probs a good role too

[El Barto]

Don't fake-commiserate, you meatbag-bringing Stork. I'm voting you tomorrow to death.

[Dp101]

You said Fox was likely scum in the world where spaceman was town (which you believed) and then you said Fox was still probably town in reaction to his claim.

Didn't say he was probably scum, just that him being scum in that world was more likely. Also, called it.

[Stork]

Don't fake-commiserate, you meatbag-bringing Stork. I'm voting you tomorrow to death.

do you think bsmith is scum?

[El Barto]

I don't know yet. But I think *you* aren't.

Wait, I totally think you are.

[El Barto]

you guys could just lynch spaceman with me
My memory chip has registered this, meatbag.

[Montmorency]

Register this for tomorrow: Bite my two shiny golden doubloons and vote for <redacted>.

[El Barto]

Register this for tomorrow: Bite my two shiny golden doubloons and vote for <redacted>.
I registered that, meatbag.

[Montmorency]

So angle-bracket "redacted" angle-bracket actually works now.

[Dp101]

If I may make a request, crimson, can you please shoot stork? He has been looking more and more scummy lately.

[Cuthillius]

i'm gonna request that you don't do that

i don't want a potential villa!stork to die

[Cuthillius]

at this stage his usefulness as town outweighs the chance of him being scum

[El Barto]

And villagers an still post. If they are vanilla.

[Dp101]

at this stage his usefulness as town outweighs the chance of him being scum

Sorry if I'm missing something, what makes stork so valuable?

[El Barto]

Sorry if I'm missing something, what makes stork so valuable?
Eh… he took his vote off spaceman which made our *claimed* vig dangerously lynchable. otoh he took his vote off someone who is a post-facto proven townie, so the meatbag deserves some cred.

[Cuthillius]

And villagers an still post. If they are vanilla.

yes but we need sensible ones that can vote

[Cuthillius]

Sorry if I'm missing something, what makes stork so valuable?

he's an excellent mafia player

[El Barto]

And Stork is a sensible townie?

[El Barto]

he's an excellent mafia player
xpost: [citation needed]

[Cuthillius]

imagine.... visor

that's basically who stork is

except he's better at working with people

[Cuthillius]

with better reads sometimes

sometimes not quite as good

but on the whole his reads are more reliable imo

[El Barto]

Better reads? He thinks my august foghat-gray person is scummy.

[Cuthillius]

Better reads? He thinks my august foghat-gray person is scummy.

what are you talking about

[Pelican]

Oh no it's gonna be one of those games with all these tiny conversations going on at once. I thought I remembered the org being closer to the slower style that I'm used to, with lots of meaty posts and focused conversation that you can really dig into. How you people manage to glean anything meaningful from all these one sentence posts I'll never know, but I guess I have to try.

Since there's no way I'm going to be able to re-read the thread for the next day phase, I'll give my impressions on whatever I can call up off the top of my head now, while they're still somewhat fresh in my mind:

Wagons:

didn't understand the El Barto or spaceman wagons at all. Can anyone give me a summary for how these happened? That's where I really started to get lost in the muck trying to read through the 8 extra pages, esp. as it seemed like there was a lot of switching back and forth. El Barto sort of looked like an answer to the Crimson Fox wagon, but I don't know where spaceman came from at all. (This isn't accusatory necessarily, I am genuinely confused by the sequence of events here and it's clouding my thinking)

Crimson Fox wagon, I jumped on because I thought it was time to get off the joke vote and that looked like an interesting angle to explore, but I was actually finding the fox somewhat wolfy in his reactions. Have to wait and see what becomes of the vig claim I guess. Can't say I particularly believe or disbelieve it but I could imagine a world where it becomes provable based on interactions if there are trackers or watchers running around.

There were others...was Novice one? I'm getting a mildly wolfy vibe off of novice. (Or at least I was from the DP novice interactions)

Other vibes

Cuthillius feels off but his GitP play (which I'm more used to) is always way different from his play in these fast paced games and it throws me off every time. What's messing with my head especially this time is that I very strongly agree with him on DP. That's my only really strong town lean right now. I think I remember meshing with him on a couple other reads too. His slight town read on me felt a little weird because I think I had made like three posts at that point and they were all super low key.

Visor...I have no idea. I can't keep track of what Visor's actual reads are. It feels like they've flip flopped a bunch.

Biggest wolf vibes are from Murska, ATPG, and Montmomrency:

Murska and ATPG both potentially lying low. I know this accusation could apply to a lot of people (yours truly included) but these two actually feel restrained based on my expectations. Murska's Cuthilius vote also sticks out as especially weird to me. As for Montmomrency, I really don't like the super general posts inserted in the midst of all the action. Did he actually give any comments on what was actually going on in thread or was it all filler so he could look like an active contributor without having to risk anything?

[Visor]

with better reads sometimes

sometimes not quite as good

but on the whole his reads are more reliable imo

Lol

Is this a joke friend

[Visor]

Pelican is town

[Montmorency]

Did he actually give any comments on what was actually going on in thread

Yes.


so he could look like an active contributor without having to risk anything?

Hopefully.

[Cuthillius]

okay that is really towny

welcome to my town pile

the org is more CFC'y, generally, but there are a bunch of offsiters this game that are collaborating with me, zack, and takh to spam a lot of posts

also some of the orgers are posting more than usual

like i've seen you wolf a fair often

this is not wolfpelican

[El Barto]

How you people manage to glean anything meaningful from all these one sentence posts I'll never know, but I guess I have to try.
I used two sentences in my last post. Can't you read?

[Visor]

okay that is really towny

welcome to my town pile

the org is more CFC'y, generally, but there are a bunch of offsiters this game that are collaborating with me, zack, and takh to spam a lot of posts

also some of the orgers are posting more than usual

like i've seen you wolf a fair often

this is not wolfpelican


Pelican is town

There is something to be said for being concise, no

[Dp101]

Pelican is town

Agreed, unless you and cuthillius are mafia together, in which case I would look at him next because of how the reads have lined up.

[Cuthillius]

Lol

Is this a joke friend

you have great reads, but they're interspersed with some really terrible ones

this is why you/zack is a potent combo

[Cuthillius]

There is something to be said for being concise, no

lol

[Dp101]

Other vibes

Cuthillius feels off but his GitP play (which I'm more used to) is always way different from his play in these fast paced games and it throws me off every time. What's messing with my head especially this time is that I very strongly agree with him on DP. That's my only really strong town lean right now. I think I remember meshing with him on a couple other reads too. His slight town read on me felt a little weird because I think I had made like three posts at that point and they were all super low key.

Visor...I have no idea. I can't keep track of what Visor's actual reads are. It feels like they've flip flopped a bunch.

Biggest wolf vibes are from Murska, ATPG, and Montmomrency:

Murska and ATPG both potentially lying low. I know this accusation could apply to a lot of people (yours truly included) but these two actually feel restrained based on my expectations. Murska's Cuthilius vote also sticks out as especially weird to me. As for Montmomrency, I really don't like the super general posts inserted in the midst of all the action. Did he actually give any comments on what was actually going on in thread or was it all filler so he could look like an active contributor without having to risk anything?

Agree fully with this, we might need to take a look at the lurkers soon.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I liked the novice wagon but understand that most of his practitioners went off it to hit spaceman (and I followed).

Certainly want to see a focus on him next phase.

[Stork]

kill cuth for those terrible posts

kidding

not kidding

[Cuthillius]

Warning:ATPG is likely just reining in his posting

because he doesn't want to scare off all the ORG and CFCers again

[Cuthillius]

I liked the novice wagon but understand that most of his practitioners went off it to hit spaceman (and I followed).

Certainly want to see a focus on him next phase.

I'm down with this.

[Visor]

Cuth is a wolf lol

[Cuthillius]

Or rather, some focus. Other people need screentime too.

[Cuthillius]

Cuth is a wolf lol

No, just procrastinating

like i'm spamming posts because i really do not want to do what i have to do

[Dp101]

Not sure why the push on Novice? Sure, he was overly aggressive earlier, but he recognised he was tunneling and apologised. Anyone willing to lay the case out for me?

[Dp101]

No, just procrastinating

like i'm spamming posts because i really do not want to do what i have to do

My life right now.

[Cuthillius]

Cuth
DP
Pelican

Crimson, but technically people could still CC or just sit on it

^town

[Cuthillius]

Not sure why the push on Novice? Sure, he was overly aggressive earlier, but he recognised he was tunneling and apologised. Anyone willing to lay the case out for me?

he's been pushing weird posts, attacking things that are not good things to attack, and making questionable comments where he may or may not have been serious

[Cuthillius]

you read inexperienced town

he reads inexperienced scum

[El Barto]

you read inexperienced town

he reads inexperienced scum
Inexperienced either way. Unsurprising, given the meatvag's name.

[Stork]

cuth+atpg maybe w/w

[El Barto]

*meatbag

[Dp101]

you read inexperienced town

he reads inexperienced scum

Nah, he is extremely experienced, I've played with him before. The thing is, meta at RB is very different from here, and I think he is still adjusting to the new environment. At least, that is the most charitable explanation, I can see why you call him mafia (obviously because you are mafia and want to remove good players, right? (the prior statement is only half a joke)).

[Dp101]

cuth+atpg maybe w/w

I'm sorry, this is completely indecipherable to me. What is w/w?

[Stork]

I'm sorry, this is completely indecipherable to me. What is w/w?

wolf/wolf as in scum buddies

[Cuthillius]

Nah, he is extremely experienced, I've played with him before. The thing is, meta at RB is very different from here, and I think he is still adjusting to the new environment. At least, that is the most charitable explanation, I can see why you call him mafia (obviously because you are mafia and want to remove good players, right? (the prior statement is only half a joke)).

what do you mean by extremely experienced

how many posts do you have on average per phase at your home forum

[Cuthillius]

stork

where is your wim

[Cuthillius]

your latest posts have a certain lack of joie d'vivre

ok i'mma stop posting before i clog the thread for everyone

[Dp101]

what do you mean by extremely experienced

how many posts do you have on average per phase at your home forum

For experience, I can't see all the oldest threads at RB because the forum is slightly glitchy, but I can see that he played in the 4th ever game of WW at RB, and you saw earlier that he has played in all the most recent ones, so without going back through all the archives I would say that he has played in most of the games run at RB, and we have played 43 of them. Posts per phase at RB are way lower than the ones here, but tend to have a lot more quoting, and generally are more substantial.

[Stork]

stork

where is your wim

you haven't been around recently but my wim died in the great wim fire of 2016

[Al Sipsclar]

i seriously hope people aren't RPing their roles...

I think this is a townie concern.

[Montmorency]

Yeah, you would say that.

[Riedquat]

Six pages of pure blahblahblah and you failed to lynch bartito? lol

Monty is being monty, as always... same goes for visor, very good reader of people/personalities, very useful when townie but a real pain in the ass when he is scum, good luck reading them!

And honestly El Barto was being himself, as he always does as town and from my experience he usually get lynched early in game for the same behavior.

[Stork]

Six pages of pure blahblahblah and you failed to lynch bartito? lol

Monty is being monty, as always... same goes for visor, very good reader of people/personalities, very useful when townie but a real pain in the ass when he is scum, good luck reading them!

And honestly El Barto was being himself, as he always does as town and from my experience he usually get lynched early in game for the same behavior.

this is, as the french say, commentarié

[El Barto]

I think this is a townie concern.
No roleplaying? Why do you meatbags sign up?

(unless you're roleplaying as clueless, in which case, carry on!)

[Dp101]

Six pages of pure blahblahblah and you failed to lynch bartito? lol
And honestly El Barto was being himself, as he always does as town and from my experience he usually get lynched early in game for the same behavior.

Given your only thoughts so far on the vote are a town lean, who do you think was actually the right lynch choice?