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Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2011, 11:43
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Active Players- (50/50)
A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Believer
Beskar
Bow-wow-wow
ByzantineKnight
B_Ray
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Classical_hero
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Earthling
El Barto
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
Jolt
Kagemusha
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Methos
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Seon
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
TheFlax
Visorslash
Warman
YLC
ZackReserve Players:
Winston Hughes
Yaseikhaan
Cecil XIX
Ironhead
Slashandburn
Splitpersonality
Tiberius of the Drake
Sasaki Kojiro
Sprig
Official Game Rules
1. The First Rule
You must read these rules before playing, please.
2. Game Setup
There are several sides in this game, primarily divided along the usual lines of town and mafia TEAMS. However, in this game, the town will be referred to as the "evil" team, as they are essentially a collection of ex-mafiosi scumbags. The mafia will be referred to as the "chaotic" team, because they're evil, and not loyal to other evil people. Since they are essentially opposed to the evil team, which is comprised of ex-mafia scumbags, they can also be called the anti-mafia. However, for simplicity's sake, it's evil versus chaotic, evil being town, chaotic being mafia.
3. Factions
The sides are sub-divided into FACTIONS, which are secondary. Some factions may share the same overall goal of getting rid of the chaotic team, but they might be opposed to one another in different ways. Criminal scumbags are selfish and corrupt, and they do not behave together as nicely as a town full of civilized, lawful goodie-goodies. Therefore, some folks on your own team may not like you very much and may wish to dispose of you as well.
4. Goals
Each player also has a PERSONAL GOAL to complete, which could put them at odds with others on their team, or even their own faction. Who knows.
5. Score
These various objectives, when completed, add to your overall score. Your score is determined as follows:
Team victory (or) Faction victory (or) Main objective achieved- 5 points awarded
Faction goals completed- 3 points awarded
Personal goal completed- 1 point awarded
Survival- 1 point awarded (this is considered achieved if a Team Victory or Faction Victory has been accomplished by someone, and you remain alive)
If you score 4 or more points, you are counted among the winners of the game. If you score 10 points, or score the highest amount awarded, you will be considered Grand Champion, which is just like winning, except it comes with a fancy title.
6. Don't Quote Your Role PM
You may never quote your role PM, either publicly OR privately. I provide cover roles for my players, and they're all made in a certain style, and if my players wish to create their own backstory, it would be difficult to forge a role PM for that. Therefore, quoting from your role PM, in whole or in part, is forbidden. It shall not be done, with the following exception:
You are allowed to discuss the data content of the role PM, such as what your faction is, what your character's name is, what items you have, and how much money you have. Because these are sets of data, they can be repeated. Do not discuss the formatting of the role PM, do not discuss when the role PM was sent, and do not post screenshots of it, or otherwise attempt to circumvent this rule in any way shape or form. If you need further instruction on this point, contact me. But the general idea is, no copy and pasting your role PM, and that includes nearly perfect paraphrasing by changing a word or two. Don't try to loophole your way out of this. Additionally, images contained within your role PM are FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. They shall not be made public unless the game host has made it public.
7. No Private Claims
You may not reveal your role to anyone privately by claiming to them in private. You MUST claim publicly if you are to claim your role. This includes handshaking attempts. Example: "I like the Simpsons, don't you?" to indicate you're a member of the Simpsons mafia. Generally speaking, if you're discussing things besides who you suspect to be guilty, or coordinating night actions, you're probably trying to determine each other's identity. Don't do that. If, after you have claimed publicly, you wish to discuss your role privately, you may do so.
You may not tell someone what faction, character, item, or ability you possess, privately. All claims must be public, before they are private.
8. Public Claims
Revealing your role publicly is very, very dangerous. It gives information to your rivals regarding who you are, and you will likely end up dead. Revealing your role is done at your own risk. (this isn't so much a rule, as FAIR WARNING!)
9. Remember the rules regarding public and private claims.
Much of the game revolves around finding allies and eliminating rivals. This game could become broken and not-fun to play if everyone decides to mass reveal right away. Then, everyone with a mission to kill certain targets will attempt to do so, and the game balance is completely upended. And, you'll likely destroy your chances of victory. That's why it's important to consider the ramifications of claiming before you do so, but more importantly, DO NOT BREAK THE RULES when it comes to any rule involving claims, private communications, or things of that nature. If I catch wind of that sort of behavior, I'll likely go directly to WOG the involved players and also ban private communications for the duration of the game, depending on the severity. I've done it before in other games. It's very important that you remember rules 6, 7, and 8. They will be strictly enforced by the host, or you'll just end up defeated quickly.
10. Day, and Wagering Rules
The game is divided into Day and Night phases.
During the Day, players may wager on who is "guilty", which in this case means not belonging to the "evil" team, including all other alignments.
Players are all automatically in for the betting every round by a 1 credit ante, whether they vote or not.
If they do not vote, they automatically lose their ante.
No matter how much they bet, they can only get their wagers returned to them if the candidate they wagered on is both guilty AND successfully lynched that day.
Wagers placed on candidates that did not die or were not guilty will be lost.
Every round, a limit is imposed on all players for the maximum amount of credits they are allowed to wager every day.
This limit increases every round by a set number.
All players begin the game with 100 credits they can wager, and they are all given an income of 10 credits per night that they survive.
Unlike the previous game, if all your credits are lost, you survive, and you can earn more.
However, if the total number of credits held by the Chaotic team exceeds the total number of credits held by the remaining players, the Chaotic team wins automatically, because they have a controlling stake in the wagering process and have won by brute force.
You may wager in the following format, which must be adhered to fairly strictly (though I will excuse typos).
Bet: 10 credits on Sasaki Kojiro to place a wager on candidate "Sasaki Kojiro"
Fold to remove your wager.
Raise: 5 credits to add 5 additional credits to your existing wager on Sasaki.
These must be bolded to count.
You may not edit your posts to change your wager. That will get you thrown out of the game immediately. Any moderator can see what you've edited in your post, and if it was to alter the number of credits wagered, I'll be informed and you'll be excused from play. Editing posts to correct grammar, spelling, or to avoid double-posting is fine. Do not touch your wagers except in a new post.
You're allowed to abstain from wagering on any candidate, but 1 credit will still be deducted from your total automatically as if you had voted for the wrong candidate. You may do this if you do not want people to bandwagon onto your wager and aren't sure who to vote for.
11. Day- Item Voting
When people die, they will often leave behind items. These items can be claimed by the candidate with the highest number of item votes.
Here is the proper format for item votes:
Vote: Slice of Pizza to myself. to vote an item to yourself
Unvote, vote: Slice of Pizza to Sasaki Kojiro to change your vote, and to vote an item to someone else.
Item votes must be bolded and in BLUE to be counted. You also have to indicate which item, and to whom it should belong, or it does not count.
12. Night- Actions
Every player can perform either zero, one, or two actions every night, and no more than that. These actions are often less than 100% effective. Failed actions will usually not be reported in the public writeups.
Players can choose one action apiece from a maximum of two of the following categories:
1. Item-based actions. Example: "I use my gun to shoot Seamus Fermanagh"
2. Money-based actions. Example: "I spend 50 credits to protect Seamus Fermanagh"
3. Skill-based actions. Example: "I roleblock Seamus Fermanagh." (note, no items or money indicated here, so neither will be used in this action)
Skill-based actions are useful in determining if you have hidden, innate abilities to perform certain tasks. Every character in the game has one hidden talent, and some can be found via this method.
Some characters begin the game with an already learned ability that requires no items or credits to perform, and they will execute such actions with a great degree of skill. Other characters can learn such skills from repeated attempts at performing that task, especially if they are done successfully.
No matter what, only a maximum of two actions allowed per player per night phase.
Example: "Tonight I protect Sasaki Kojiro with my magic shield. I also spend 25 credits scanning Seamus Fermanagh with a faction scan." (bolded parts are the key bits of information I need. You do not need to bold these. Send orders via private message only.)
Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.
1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vig-kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver
(switch two players so the effects applied to each will apply to the other... useful as a defensive or offensive weapon)12. Steal item
13. Steal credits Derp. Dunno what I was thinking. You always have to spend credits to steal credits.
13. Rules for being dead
Dead players are still allowed to participate in play, however, there are limitations.
1. They cannot reveal any new information or confirm anyone else's information. This means, they cannot discuss things which have not been made public yet, and they cannot confirm that something someone else made public is true.
2. They cannot continue to discuss anything privately (out of thread) with anyone, except when I, the game host, have given them explicit instructions that it is okay. The previous rule applies also to this rule: no new information even if I do allow private communications with the dead.
3. They cannot vote on items, or wager any credits on anyone's guilt.
Contact me if you're unsure on these points.
14. These rules may be amended.
I'm not perfect, and this is a complex, experimental game. If I need to impose a new rule, it will be very carefully considered and I promise it will be in the best interests of all players and it will also have been necessary. My goal is to not have to make amendments to these rules, but it happens.
15. Be a good sport.
This is a game which can involve lying, bluffing, and backstabbing, possibly. It's not personal, it's just business.
That said, please follow the game rules, and follow the gameroom rules regarding player conduct, and obey all forum rules.
Should something frustrating happen, please do not verbally attack a fellow player or the game host or anyone else. You are allowed to criticize ideas and suggestions, but do not call people dumb.
Example: "I think that's a bad idea. We shouldn't do that at all. In fact, I think you suggested it because you're guilty"
This is okay! Notice how we're saying the idea is bad, advising against it, and even suggesting the player could be trying to destroy our team. However, we are not attacking that player.
Example: "What are you, stupid? Only someone stupid would say that!"
This is not okay. This is attacking a player. It's a friendly game, don't do this.
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2011, 11:43
Reserved for game host- How to Play/FAQ - under construction
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Question: What can I attempt to do without items or credits?
Answer: Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.
1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vig-kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver
(switch two players so the effects applied to each will apply to the other... useful as a defensive or offensive weapon)12. Steal item
13. Steal credits Derp. Dunno what I was thinking. You always have to spend credits to steal credits.
HOW TO PLAY
This is to help you understand the options at your disposal and the expected basic strategies involved with the game.
Because there are several new or seldom-used concepts in this game, everyone will be thrown into the mix with a lack of experience, even if they've played mafia before. Since you only get to play this game once, it's probably a good idea to know what you're doing before you get started. So, think of this as like an instruction manual.
1. YOUR GOAL
Score as many points as possible from the following categories. 4 points makes you a winner.
Team Victory/Faction Victory (5 points)
Faction Goal (3 points)
Personal Goal (1 point)
Survive (1 point)
Primary Goals- how to win outright
Seeing as Team/Faction Victory alone wins you the game outright with 5 points, it should be your primary objective. If you're on the Evil team, you want to annihilate the Chaotic team. Chaotic team wants to annihilate the Evil team. However, it's possible for Evil and Chaotic to win the game together provided they belong to the same Faction, and that Faction is the last one standing. That means Evil folks betraying Evil folks, and Chaotic folks betraying Chaotic folks, to work together. It is possible. That means, watch your back. You have allies, but you're all a bunch of untrustworthy goons who want to win by any means necessary.
Secondary Goals- how to win when you're losing
However, along the way you are likely to die, and you can't really count on your friends to win the game for you. Therefore, you'll want to rack up some points for yourself just in case. Accomplishing your personal goal is basically a requirement if you do not survive and your faction or team does not end up victorious. That mission might become your main objective if your faction seems like it's going down in flames. Your faction goal is always to outlast 2 rival factions. That means you need to keep yourself or one of your allies alive long enough to watch the last one of your rivals burn. That's 3 points. You survive or accomplish your personal goal, that makes 4, and victory for you.
2. YOUR TOOLS
You face death at the hands of chaotic scumbags, or envious rival villains, or even your own teammates by sheer accident. There's also a lynch to worry about, and lots of other players who all consider you a possible threat and a better lynch target than themselves. That means very few people are going to be walking away from this one alive.
In order to win, you'll want to take advantage of the tools at your disposal. Here they are:
Gathering information about factions
Every faction in the game begins with one player who has an item which can scan factions. That faction scanner player is on a mission to identify members of his own faction, so you can begin to work together to defeat your rivals. However, EVERYONE can purchase a faction scan for the low cost of 25 credits, so everyone can try to locate members of their own faction, albeit at a cost. When a faction scanner dies, his alignment and faction are both revealed. And, his faction scanning item is put up for a vote. If that was a member of your faction, you might want that scanning item so you can continue their work.
Along the way, a faction scanner will identify members of rival factions, too. So, they might take note of who they have to kill in order to accomplish their factional goals. It could be a good idea to identify as many members of as many factions as possible. You are permitted to share the results of your faction scans privately. Because everyone can faction scan, technically, it doesn't reveal anything about your role. And you can lie and make up information.
Items
Everyone begins with at least one item, some people have several. Items either give passive benefits or can be used actively at night in a night action. Most items are permanent, a few are single-use.
Items can be combined with other items that perform the exact same function. This happens anytime you're in possession of two of the same type of item, and you use them to perform an action, or they end up being used passively. They automatically combine; you can also send me an order to combine those two items even if you don't intend on using them. This does not take up any of your action slots, so it is either automatically performed or manually performed, but costs you nothing to do so.
Combined items will be more powerful, and give you greater chances of success.
Note that you can also purchase actions with your credits. While they are separate actions from your item actions, if it is the same type of action and it is used on the same target-
(example: Vigilante kill Sasaki with my gun, and purchase a vigilante action on Sasaki with my credits)
Then the chance of success for both attempts will be combined into one. Suppose your chance of success with your item is 20%, and your chance of success with your purchased action is 50%, now you have a 70% base chance of success. This does not take into account your opponent's defensive powers, but you get the idea.
Purchased actions
Spending credits to enhance the odds of success of your actions, or to perform a second action, is both risky and possibly rewarding.
Purchase abilities:
Self-defense: (50% chance) 50 credits
Defend other: (50% chance) 50 credits
Faction scan: 25 credits
Block an action: 60 credits
Block all actions: 80 credits
Vigilante attempt: (50% chance) 70 credits
Detective scan: (Activity, role claim, faction) 80 credits
Vigilante attempt: (80% chance) 150 credits
Revive: (80% chance) 180 credits
Steal credits: (50% chance) 1 credits for every 4 attempted to steal.
Steal item: (50% chance) 70 credits
Self-defense: (100% chance) 100 credits
Defend other: (100% chance) 120 credits
Scan items: (80% chance) 180 credits
1 successful self-defense when attacked allows you to perform a self-defense action every night, with 25% effectiveness.
2 successful self-defense actions allows you to perform a self-defense action every night, at 50% effectiveness.
3 successful self-defense actions allows you to perform a self-defense action every night, at 75% effectiveness.
2 successful defend other actions allows you to perform a defend other action every night at 60% effectiveness.
3 successful faction scans allows you to perform a faction scan every night if you wish.
2 successful roleblocks allows you to perform that action every night at 75% effectiveness.
2 successful vigilante attempts allows you to perform that action every night at 50% effectiveness.
3 successful vigilante attempts allows you to perform that action every night at 80% effectiveness.
2 successful detective scans allows you to perform that action every night at 75% effectiveness.
1 successful revive allows you to perform that action every night at 40% effectiveness.
3 successful steal credits actions allows you to perform that action every night at 80% effectiveness.
2 successful steal item actions allows you to perform that action every night at 75% effectiveness.
Q- But Pizzaguy, what if I spend most of my credits on performing an action and it fails?
A- Those are the breaks.
Q- What if the dice hate me and I keep failing?
A- There's something in the game design which prevents you from being unrealistically unlucky, and that's all I have to say about that.
Because you begin with 100 credits, assuming you survive round 1, you can perform most of the actions available in the game right away on the first night. You also earn 10 credits per round, and can spend credits for the chance to steal credits from someone. Therefore, credits can be used to enhance you offensively or defensively, or they can be used to boost your available credits.
Anything you use your credits for has a risk of failure, even if you are at or above 100% chance of success, because of the possibility of roleblocks, bus drivers, or override abilities. Override means a chance of attacking through protection.
Learned abilities and additional abilities
Some players begin the game with a cost-free learned ability they could use at night as their "skill-based" action. This learned ability is not only free but has a high chance of success. That makes them a powerful role, as most roles will not have any learned abilities to begin with.
Some players will have additional abilities which are automatically active, such as immunities to certain types of actions. This makes them a a powerful role, as most roles will not have such powers.
Spending credits to use an ability can lead to successfully learning that ability permanently, allowing EVERYONE in the game to transform themselves into a powerful role eventually, depending on luck and persistence.
Hidden talent
Everyone in the game has a hidden talent. You do not know what it is, until it becomes activated. This happens one of two ways:
1. Someone else activates your ability. Suppose you are naturally resistant to death, and you don't know it. Well, someone attacks you and you happen to survive. Bam, now you're aware of that hidden talent.
2. You activate your ability through trial and error. You spend credits or use items or try to perform an ability without either, and it happens to be in your area of expertise. You become aware of your hidden talent.
Some hidden talents are more useful than others, but everyone has one.
Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.
1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vig-kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver
(switch two players so the effects applied to each will apply to the other... useful as a defensive or offensive weapon)12. Steal item
13. Steal credits
Sorry I did not post this sooner. My mistake. Will add to opening posts.
The lynch
This is a complicated game, but it can be solved by simply lynching the appropriate parties. You could, in theory, safely ignore items and spending credits and pursuing side missions, and just focus on lynching the scumbags. You can win the game that way.
Or, you can take a risk, take a chance, and take matters into your own hands at night.
Therefore, you'd want to save your credits and focus on lynching. Since it costs you credits to wager on someone, and highest total wager on a suspect gets them lynched, you need lots of credits to have control of the wager during any given round. And if you guess wrong, you'll have fewer credits to wager on your next suspect.
3. YOUR WAGERS AND VOTES
It costs you nothing to vote an item to yourself. Everyone's vote counts as 1 vote in this case.
Vote: Item to myself
Unvote, vote: Item to Sasaki
This is the proper format for item votes.
Bet: 10 credits on Sasaki Kojiro to place a wager on candidate "Sasaki Kojiro"
Fold to remove your wager.
Raise: 5 credits to add 5 additional credits to your existing wager on Sasaki.
These must be in bold or they do not count, NO EXCEPTIONS. That includes formatting errors where you're missing a part of the bold tag, and you end up "b]unvoting" someone by mistake.
You may place unrealistic wagers, up to and including the maximum allowable wager for that day, whether you have the available credits or not.
If you don't have enough credits to match your wager, I'll put your remaining credits on your bid and the final tally for that day will reflect your actual amount wagered, you sneaky sneak. Then everyone will know you're out of credits.
If you place a wager for more credits than the maximum allowed wager for that day, it will not count as a real or fake wager at all, and I will ignore it outright, and everyone should, because by rule, it cannot be a real wager ever. Let's not do that, it's spammy and serves no purpose.
4. YOUR TEAM AND YOUR FACTION
Anyone who shares your alignment [evil, chaotic, neutral, etc] will be on your team. For the purposes of a team victory, neutral is considered part of your team, regardless of your team. So they can go both ways. Shifty buggers.
Anyone who shares your faction [not-real example: "Pizza" Mafia] will be on your faction. For the purposes of a faction victory, or a faction goal, they share all your goals in that regard, and can share victory with you and help you achieve it, assuming it is a faction victory you're going for.
You can claim publicly who you are. This is very dangerous and you're likely to end up dead, because certain folks are hunting for certain folks, and defenses are not usually 100% effective, killing through protection is possible. You are also not allowed to post your ROLE PM or quote from it.
You cannot claim privately who you are, until you've made that same claim publicly, and in a new post. No editing in your claim into a previous post. In fact, don't edit posts from previous RL days.
Please refer to the official rules in the first post regarding what you can and cannot claim publicly and privately.
You can find members of your own faction by claiming publicly, or to put it more precisely, they can find you that way. However, they cannot contact you privately and suggest that they're on your team. So they would have to also claim publicly in order for you to know who they are.
You can find members of factions by faction scanning, either with a faction scanner item, or by purchasing a faction scan for 25 credits.
You can contact someone and claim that you have scanned them as a member of a certain faction. They cannot confirm that you are correct or incorrect. But if you are correct, they will likely want to work with you, won't they?
You can suggest actions for each other and discuss suspects. You cannot claim to have certain items or learned abilities unless you've made that public.
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2011, 11:44
GAME EVENTS
Arrived in The Purgatory (Prologue (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053296199&viewfull=1#post2053296199))
Jeremy Bentham of the NPC Mafia was slain (Night Zero (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053296200&viewfull=1#post2053296200))
Niccolo Machiavelli of the NPC Mafia was slain (Night Zero (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053296200&viewfull=1#post2053296200))
Captain Blackadder AKA Jerry Seinfeld was lynched. (Day One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053299336&viewfull=1#post2053299336))
TheFlax AKA Blitzen was murdered. (Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053300483&viewfull=1#post2053300483))
classical_hero AKA the Black Beast of Aaaarggghhh was murdered. (Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053300483&viewfull=1#post2053300483))
Kagemusha AKA Itchy and Scratchy was murdered. (Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053300483&viewfull=1#post2053300483))
ByzantineKnight AKA El Gigante was murdered. (Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053300483&viewfull=1#post2053300483))
Seon AKA Alfred Branagh AKA SCREWTAPE was killed in retaliation. (Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053300483&viewfull=1#post2053300483))
B_Ray AKA The Killer Rabbit was murdered. (Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053300483&viewfull=1#post2053300483))
YLC AKA Hammer Brother was lynched. (Day Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053301531&viewfull=1#post2053301531))
Diana Abnoba AKA Andross Oikonny was murdered (Night Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053303025&viewfull=1#post2053303025))
Csargo AKA Porcupiney the Porcupine was murdered (Night Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053303025&viewfull=1#post2053303025))
Backwards Logic AKA Fire Brother was murdered (Night Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053303025&viewfull=1#post2053303025))
ArpeggiateTHIS AKA Sideshow Bob AKA GANONDORF was killed in retaliation (Night Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053303025&viewfull=1#post2053303025))
civplayah AKA Professor Farnsworth was lynched (Day Three (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053304276&viewfull=1#post2053304276))
choxorn AKA Choir Director James Marshall was murdered (Night Three (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053305082&viewfull=1#post2053305082))
Zack AKA Klingon Assassin was murdered (Night Three (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053305082&viewfull=1#post2053305082))
Major Robert Dump AKA Rudolph was lynched (Day Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053307847&viewfull=1#post2053307847))
Backwards Logic AKA Fire Brother was Revived! (Night Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053307857&viewfull=1#post2053307857))
Beskar AKA Psycho Andy was murdered (Night Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053307857&viewfull=1#post2053307857))
Jolt AKA Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded was murdered (Night Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053307857&viewfull=1#post2053307857))
Captain Blackadder2 AKA Claire Raval was murdered (Night Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053307857&viewfull=1#post2053307857))
Earthling AKA The Black Knight Who Always Triumphs was lynched, but survived! (Day Five (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053309029&viewfull=1#post2053309029))
B_Ray2 AKA Squirrely the Squirrel was murdered (Night Five (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053311236&viewfull=1#post2053311236))
Autolycus AKA Android Lore was murdered (Night Five (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053311236&viewfull=1#post2053311236))
Ironside AKA Kansas C. Smith was murdered (Night Five (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053311236&viewfull=1#post2053311236))
Diamondeye AKA White_Eyes:D AKA CRAZED RABBIT was lynched. (Day Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053312720&viewfull=1#post2053312720))
Robbiecon AKA Askthepizzaguy as Agent 824 was murdered (Night Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053313600&viewfull=1#post2053313600))
Death is yonder AKA Darth Kojiro, Dark Lord of the Sith was murdered (Night Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053313600&viewfull=1#post2053313600))
Diamondeye AKA CRAZED RABBIT was revived! (Night Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053313600&viewfull=1#post2053313600))
Renata AKA Mace Windu ESCAPED, VICTORIOUS!!! (Night Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053313600&viewfull=1#post2053313600))
Diamondeye AKA White_Eyes:D AKA CRAZED RABBIT was lynched. (Day Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053314617&viewfull=1#post2053314617))
Believer AKA Waylon Smithers was murdered (Night Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053316280&viewfull=1#post2053316280))
landlubber AKA Salvatore Valerio was murdered (Night Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053316280&viewfull=1#post2053316280))
Bow-wow-wow AKA Beary the Bear was murdered (Night Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053316280&viewfull=1#post2053316280))
Kagemusha AKA Itchy and Scratchy was revived! (Night Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053316280&viewfull=1#post2053316280))
Chaotix AKA Satan AKA KING DODONGO AKA KAFEI was lynched (Day Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053317110&viewfull=1#post2053317110))
Warman AKA Zapp Brannigan was murdered (Night Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053318377&viewfull=1#post2053318377))
Crazed Rabbit AKA Vincenzo Valerio was murdered (Night Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053318377&viewfull=1#post2053318377))
dcmort93 AKA Arnold "Colmillo" Grande was murdered (Night Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053318377&viewfull=1#post2053318377))
Red_Spy AKA Alyssa Martin AKA Anju was murdered (Night Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053318377&viewfull=1#post2053318377))
God Emperor AKA Yeqon Lucifuge Caacrinolaas AKA REENKIS ROINKIS was lynched (Day Nine (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053319281&viewfull=1#post2053319281))
Useful Links
Mini Simpsons Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106845-Mini-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Game-Thread%29)
(Monty Burns and Waylon Smithers)
Futurama Drama Mafiama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107859-Futurama-Drama-Mafiama-%28Concluded%29)
(Professor Farnsworth and Zapp Brannigan)
The Full Monty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?108584-The-Full-Monty-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
(Sideshow Bob, Burns, Apu, Krusty, Moe, Smithers, Itchy and Scratchy, Snake, Mayor Quimby, Barney Gumble, Cat Lady, Kang and Kodos)
The Golden Rule (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?110184-The-Golden-Rule-%28Concluded%29)
(Askthepizzaguy as FBI Agent 824)
Murder Manor I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113687-Mini-Game-Murder-Manor-%28Concluded%29)
(White_Eyes/Assassin)
Murder Manor II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114095-Mini-Game-II-%28Concluded%29)
(Captain Blackadder/Assassin and Yoyoma1910/Lord of Annihilation)
Psycho Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
(Detective Andy/Psycho Andy, and the Serial Killer)
Treehouse of Horror (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?115963-Treehouse-of-Horror-Summary-thread)
(Sideshow Bob, Don Vittorio, Abe Simpson/Black Hand, MANY others)
Mini Mafia IV (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?116976-Mini-Mafia-IV-%28Concluded%29)
(Obi-Wan Kenobi and Mace Windu)
Mini Mafia V (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117157-Mini-Mafia-V-%28Concluded%29)
(Klingon Assassin, Redjac the possessor, Mirror Universe Kirk, The M-113 Creature, Mirror Universe Spock)
Resident Evil Omega (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?117441-Resident-Evil-Omega-%28Concluded%29)
(Kansas C. Smith, Cleveland King/Tyrant)
Speed Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119574-SPEED-MAFIA%21)
(Advice Dog, Tacgnol)
The Snatcher (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119908-The-Snatcher-%28Concluded%29)
(The Snatcher)
Mini Mafia VII (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?120373-Mini-Mafia-VII)
(Romulan Agent/Geordi, Data/Lore)
Speed Mafia II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?122738-SPEED-MAFIA%21-%21)
(Fluffy Bunny, Insane Dog)
Psycho Mafia II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?121447-Psycho-Mafia-II-Andy-s-return-%28Concluded%29)
(The Psycho/God of Destruction, First Disciple, Second Disciple/God of Consumption)
The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)
(Rudolph, Blitzen)
Murder Manor III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?127985-Murder-Manor-III-Story-and-Information-Thread)
(Yeqon Lucifuge Caacrinolaas)
Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)
(Alfred Branagh, Claire Raval, Chris Goldman, Luis Morales, El Gigante, Arnold "Colmillo" Grande, Sam Hunnigan, Charles Holland, Pain Demon, Panic Demon, Fear Demon, Alyssa Martin/Novia Mortal, Michael Otto, others)
Star Fox: Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128793-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-%28Story-and-information-thread%29)
(Andross Oikonny, Wolf O'Donnell, Leon Powalski, Panther Caroso, Pigma Dengar, Attack Carrier, Rock Crusher, Vulcain, Shogun Droid, Gorgon, Granga)
Askthepizzaguy Mafia I (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play)
(Anthony Valerio, Vincenzo Valerio, Salvatore Valerio)
Star Wars: Fall of the Order (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131244-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Information-Thread)
(Darth Kojiro, Darth Sigurd, Darth Fermanagh, Darth Aggony, Darth Khaan, Darth Abnoba, Supreme Grandmaster Bane Anded)
South Park Mafia: Imaginationland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132326-South-Park-Imaginationland-Concluded)
(Manbearpig, Squirrely the Squirrel, Porcupiney the Porcupine, Beary the Bear)
South Park Mafia [@TWC] (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=233844)
(Stan/Satan and Kyle/Saddam)
Vexing Mafia [@TWC] (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)
(Clippy the Microsoft Office Assistant and Jerry Seinfeld the unfunny comedian)
Silent Hill Mafia [@TWC] (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?113845-Psycho-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)
(Dark Alessa, Alessa's Mother, Alessa's Wrath)
MarioKart Madness [@TWC] (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=414541)
(Hammer Bros, Fire Bros, Boomerang Bros)
The Chainsaw Gang [@CFC] (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330644)
(Satanic Pastor Richard Bird, Satanic Teacher Josh Timman, Satanic Choir Director James Marshall)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail [@CFC] (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)
(The Knights who say Ni, The Black Beast of Arrrggghhh, The Killer Rabbit, The Black Knight who Always Triumphs)
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2011, 11:44
Prologue
A relatively long time ago, in a gameroom not that far away....
Shinseikhaan idled away as the people of Fatlington discussed with vigor down to the very end. He seemed entirely fascinated with his ability to cast a shadow of what appeared to be a dog with his hands, as though it were some kind of phantom upon the ground. He was snapped somewhat out of his mindless absence when one of his guards pounded a gavel upon a desk, indicating that time had lapsed. Finally turning to the conversation at hand, 'khaan found that there was a tie, between Crazed Rabbit and Sasaki Kojiro.
'Khaan frowned slightly, then tilted his head. Something wasn't quite right. Oh, yes. That was it.
As he peered around the crowd, he could not find Crazed Rabbit anywhere in sight. As the guards rounded up Sasaki, 'Khaan turned to Commissioner Fermanagh and whispered in his ear, querying as to where the Crazed one would likely be. Fermanagh paused a second, then his eyes lit up. He whispered back into the ear of 'Khaan, who nodded. 'Khaan jumped up from his post, and proclaimed to all of Fatlington to follow him.
With 'Khaan and Commissioner Fermanagh took the lead, followed by the guards who were detaining Sasaki, with the rest of Fatlington following behind. The group took the path leading to the Angler's Dangle. Sure enough, as they arrived, eyes squinting to use the last fading rays of the sunset, Crazed Rabbit lay sitting on the edge of the dock. He had a brush in hand, and was staring intently at a nearly completed mural on the side of the dock. The artwork, even in the dim lights coming down from the pier onto the long canvas, was quite beautiful. The group closed in behind, and despite the accusations brought upon him, all had to admit that they were envious of the man's artistic ability. The colors were sharp, clear, and bold. CR had heard the people behind him, but ignored them for the time being, as he contemplated his last few brush strokes. The group, wishing to see the final product, silently agreed to give him his chance to complete the mural. Finally, after several minutes, CR put the final details into place, the luscious red lips on a portrait of the new starlet, Marilyn Monroe. The group gave a muted round of applause. CR finally turned, a sobered look on his face, and two of 'khaan's guards apprehended him without struggle.
“Sasaki Kojiro, Crazed Rabbit. The two of you have been deemed by the people of Fatlington to be dangerous threats!” Khaan declared. “However, as they could not agree upon which of you was the greater threat, it has been left to me to decide your fates. I have made my decision, though I did not like it."
'Khaan paused for a moment, then finally shook his head.
“The two of you will be sentenced to death,” 'Khaan proclaimed in a somewhat distasteful voice. “I feel it is my duty to uphold the will of Fatlington, and it was made abundantly clear that they fear you both as murderers. However... I still rather like the both of you. And so, I have decided to make your deaths as pleasant as possible. Indeed, I have even gone into my own expense book for the both of you.”
Sasaki and Crazed Rabbit both raised an eyebrow at the director. What sort of execution required the director to spend much of their own money?
'Khaan whispered to one of his guards, then motioned for the rest to get going. The guards brought a large table and two chairs out to the pier, while 'Khaan quickly jaunted to his house before returning with a large sack. Sasaki and CR were both strapped into the chairs by their wastes, leaving their hands free. 'Khaan stepped before the two, with his paper bag and the entire town watching. He set the bag down, then revealed its contents. Six, 25. 4 ounce bottles of Kentucky Spirit, one hundred and one proof bourbon.
“I hope the two of you appreciate this, it really is my favorite brand of liquor,” Khaan explained. “The two of you are to each drink three entire bottles of Kentucky Spirit, until you are deceased by alcohol poisoning.” 'Khaan nodded to one of his guards, who smashed a gavel against the wooden pier. “And with that, GO!”
The two condemned men began drinking at an astonishing pace. The severity of the liquor barely seemed to faze either one. Astonishingly, after ten minutes, Sasaki had polished off his first bottle, with CR just behind. However, upon reaching the second bottle, the effects of the bourbon were visibly taking their toll. Both men were quite chatty for having been just condemned to death, and were swaying in their seats despite the restraints. The second bottle was taking the two longer. However, in a display of pure internal fortitude, both men finished their bottles at nearly the same time, after twenty minutes. The third bottle for each seemed to be the finishing point, however. The two were practically panting with the effort required to focus upon drinking more. CR's left hand was twitching uncontrollably for some reason, and Sasaki was beginning to convulse in his chair. However, with guns aimed at them, the two continued their brave attempts at downing the final bottles of bourbon. The third bottle was taking even longer than the previous two combined, and night had well fallen. The people of Fatlington had stayed, however, for the sight. Despite their previous death sentence just an hour ago, with the two condemned man in an insane drinking race, the townspeople began chanting and cheering “Go, Go, Go!” to their favored competitor. And so it was that the two men, both ready to fall out of their chairs if they had not been restrained, downed the last of their respective bottles.
'Khaan and Commissioner Fermanagh were both stunned. Neither had seen such displays of manhood and fortitude. Neither were remotely surprised, then, that not fifteen seconds after polishing off the last of the bourbon, both of the condemned men face planted into the table before them, tumbling down and bringing their chairs with them in two separate heaps of drunken mess. 'Khaan sent one of the guards to check the pulse of the men. The man stood back up after getting nauseatingly close to the smell of pure liquor, and informed them that both men were, in fact, snoozing on the ground.
“What?!” 'Khaan yelped. “What a waste of good liquor.”
'Khaan quickly grabbed a pistol from the guard, then walked up to the collapsed men. 'Khaan turned the pistol on Sasaki, and blew three shots into the man's skull. He then turned to CR, repeating the process.
Nearly Two Years Later......
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No stop signs
Speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel
Gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me around
Hey Satan
Payin' my dues
Playin' in a rockin' band
Hey momma
Look at me
I'm on the way to the promised land
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Don't stop me
I'm on the highway to hell
On the highway to hell
Highway to hell
I'm on the highway to hell
(highway to hell) I'm on the highway to hell
(highway to hell) highway to hell
(highway to hell) highway to hell
(highway to hell)
And I'm goin' down
All the way
I'm on the highway to hell
-- AC/DC
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Beyond the edges of the known universe
Pain. Maddening pain. It never stopped, never let up for even a single moment. The figures stood in the burning valley, trying in vain to end each others' suffering. They used whatever weapons they could find, but it was of no use. They were little more than mindless animals, and had been that way for as long as any of them could remember. Any thoughts they once had were long forgotten, and memories of their former selves dimmed by the day. All they felt was pain and agony, and wanted desperately for it to stop.
Without warning, there was a disturbance in the... sky, for lack of a better term. An expanding bubble of brilliant energy appeared out of nowhere, and in its wake was a calm, pure... nothingness. The beings which had been engaged in fruitless violence against one another were swiftly engulfed by the calm. In an instant, their pain disappeared. They were disoriented, shocked by this. All they could do was gaze in wonder up at the glowing halo of energy, which had brought relief to their suffering.
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The fighting stopped, and they wandered toward the light. Whatever it was, it couldn't be worse than maddening, everlasting pain. From within the heavenly light came a familiar, angelic voice.
"Greetings. I have come to save you from this eternity of torment, and bring you out of this existence. You must first prove your worthiness for a second chance at life, through a test of your skills and strength. If you succeed, you will return to your former lives. If you fail- you will return here, and will not be granted a third chance."
The tormented beings readily agreed, and headed towards the light, closer, and closer......
The beings were bathed in light, and felt their surroundings changing as if by magic.
They felt disoriented, and couldn't see through the brightness.
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"What.... is this place?" you find yourself thinking.
"This is an echo of your past lives. What you're seeing is a place created by your long forgotten memories, a reflection of who you used to be."
This doesn't seem like a place I've ever been before.....
"There are several dozen of you here. You have many unique and diverse experiences, but this reality is an approximation of something most of you should find familiar. There will be things here which you personally recognize, and things that you do not, but others will. The purpose of this place is to give you all a chance to prove yourselves worthy of a second life."
What must I do? I would do anything. ANYTHING....
"Answers will come. You must be patient. You may have trouble remembering yourselves, and you may not recognize everyone among you. But you all have something in common."
I have no idea who these people are. What could they possibly have in common with me?
"You have all struggled against a common enemy. An enemy that has, in fact, defeated many of you. Some of you were victorious, but were later captured, or killed. In any case, you all have committed acts that are considered evil. You've murdered, you've stolen, and you've conspired to destroy and become powerful. You've all tried to defeat this enemy. Do you remember?"
Some of this does sound familiar. I know that before I died, I struggled against.... someone. A whole group of them. There were so many of them.... why can't I remember who they are?
"This enemy takes many forms, and you've encountered them in many places, many dimensions. They were likely the ones that destroyed you, or you just barely managed to escape their wrath. Try to remember."
I do... I remember feeling angry at them. I felt hate. I would have destroyed them all, given the chance. I would kill them all without a second's thought. They are probably the reason I was suffering for so long....
"They were considered to be "good". You were considered the villain. You were the outcasts, shunned, hounded, and persecuted. But you did commit acts of great evil. You were sent to burn as punishment for those sins."
Yes, they tried to kill me! They attacked me.... I don't remember how many of them I killed... but it was necessary.
"It needed to be done."
It needed to be done.
"You want to face them again. But before you lies a challenge, and you must face that challenge. We will speak again in the morning."
The morning? What was..... it had been so long, you had forgotten what morning was. You remember you dreaded the morning. They would always come out during the day, to try to destroy you. But you haven't seen a morning since before you died. Now, the morning seemed like a savior, come to rescue you from the darkness and the pain. You felt weak, finally able to relax. Sleep came quickly.
:book:
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2011, 11:45
Night Zero
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The Purgatory
When they woke in the morning, they were summoned to the center of town by the angelic voice. The Angel appeared before them, and they listened intently.
"Before we begin, some of the more observant among you will note that not everyone arrived at this meeting. There are two of you missing."
This was all too familiar. The gathering, being informed of who didn't make it. Everyone immediately knew what was going on.
"As you have already probably guessed, they were murdered. In this plane of existence, you were all given mortal bodies, to ease your transition back to the world of the living. And, as you've already concluded, there are some among you who wish for your destruction."
This couldn't be happening. You were so close to escaping from death and agony...
"You cannot allow these traitors within your midst to escape back into the world of the living. They must be stopped here and now, or they will pose a threat to you in your next life. Bring them before me, and I will deal with them appropriately. You can also take matters into your own hands and try to destroy them yourselves. Do you understand?"
Yes, of course.
"Please note, you are still adjusting to your mortal bodies. Every day you survive, you will strengthen by a little bit. If you expend too much energy performing certain actions, or fighting amongst yourselves, you will become weak. If you are too weak to apprehend those among you who were responsible for this, they will continue to murder you unchecked and you will all be sent back from whence you came, in defeat."
Strength? I see... when you try to apprehend a suspect, you will expend "credits" of energy trying to bring them down. If you exhaust yourself bringing down the wrong suspects, you'll be a sitting duck.
Interesting....
"Please begin to discuss who could have done this. I have every confidence that you can win this contest of skill and strength, but remember the stakes. Should you lose this most dangerous game, you'll be doomed forever. Should you succeed, you will return to your former lives... and you'll be able to exact revenge on those who sent you to your deaths."
______________________________
Summary of events:
Jeremy Bentham has been slain!
Niccolo Machiavelli has been slain!
The Non Player Character Mafia has been eliminated!
Alive Players- (50/50)
A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Believer
Beskar
Bow-wow-wow
ByzantineKnight
B_Ray
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Classical_hero
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Earthling
El Barto
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
Jolt
Kagemusha
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Methos
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Seon
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
TheFlax
Visorslash
Warman
YLC
Zack
Reserve Players-
Winston Hughes
Yaseikhaan
Cecil XIX
Ironhead
Slashandburn
Splitpersonality
Tiberius of the Drake
Sasaki Kojiro
Sprig
Deceased-
Jeremy Bentham- [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2011, 13:09
Game is ready for play. Everyone has their role PMs, the rules are posted, and I am just about ready to begin hosting this thing.
However, we have a number of people who will be inactive for the first phase because of RL concerns, and I need a break from the Role Pm sending, etc. Look at your role Pm, and now picture that 49 more times, plus extra roles for the mafia. That's why I need a breather. :laugh4:
DAY ONE WILL BEGIN MONDAY, APRIL 18th, 2011, at 0100 hours. (01:00 AM) and will continue until April 20th, 2011, at 0100 hours (01:00 AM)
Because Day One has not begun yet, wagers will not be accepted, and I'd encourage folks not to reveal their roles. Please take a breather and read the game rules and the How To Play section before posting. There is no rush. Know the power of the dark side, I mean, instruction manual.... the power to play legally and competently. Also ask me questions privately if you'd like, I will begin a Frequently Asked Questions section.
Still remaining for me to do is post links to every game I've hosted that features characters involved in this game. It won't take me but 30 minutes to do it, but I'm not doing it right now. Should be done before Day One Begins.
And here.... we..... go. You may now post.
Believer
04-16-2011, 14:45
This looks so awesome.
Good luck and have fun all. :')
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-16-2011, 15:23
This is going to be FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Captain Blackadder
04-16-2011, 15:27
It is going to be made of win.
mythmonster2
04-16-2011, 16:35
All right, let's DO THIS!
classical_hero
04-16-2011, 16:58
This will be niarly fun.
thefluffyone93
04-16-2011, 18:31
http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/7296006/lets-do-this.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Fuck-Yeah
We have come to kick butt and chew bubble gum. I'm not out of bubble gum yet, but when I am...
Earthling
04-16-2011, 19:55
This will be great!
johnhughthom
04-16-2011, 20:01
This will be great!
Yes, yes it will.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2011, 21:25
1AM EST?
Yes. I usually work late and get home at midnight or later. 1AM will be a good time for me. It gets me several hours to process orders and post writeups before I pass out. That's Eastern time, USA/Florida, I believe it's GMT -5, if I remember correctly.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2011, 22:17
Please note, some of the links in your role PMs may not link to the correct games or youtube(s).
If you spot something that doesn't seem to add up, contact me and I'll correct the error. Sometimes my mouse button doesn't want to copy and then paste, it just pastes, and I don't notice the difference because the text still reads correctly, but the link does not.
Major Robert Dump
04-17-2011, 03:54
Gambling is a sin, and it is a shame that we will be forced to gamble on Passover.
Also, I did not see mention in the rules (like mentioned in sign up) what will happen in the event of ties. If duels are in effect, this game gonna get ugly
Askthepizzaguy
04-17-2011, 04:06
Ah yes, there will be duels in the event of exactly tied wagers.
Given the negative consequences of betting on a candidate that is not lynched, I would advise against allowing the candidates to be tied. It's basically a 50/50 shot you lose your money, even if somehow both candidates were guilty.
There's very little tactical benefit from allowing a tied tally in this game, in particular.
Double A
04-17-2011, 05:21
I'm not sure I'm going to have time for this game. :embarassed:
El Barto
04-17-2011, 06:32
Hello, everyone, scummers!
vote:Earthling; ponys are horrible.
EDIT: Avatars here suck.
You don't vote here...you use credits...and you must bold your votes.
Bet: 5 credits on El Barto
See, like this. :tongue:
Edit: Actually, you are not even in this game :inquisitive:
And the game doesn't begin for another day anyway.
Askthepizzaguy
04-17-2011, 09:15
Edit: Actually, you are not even in this game :inquisitive:
Yes he is... :grin:
Askthepizzaguy
04-17-2011, 09:25
I've already got a flurry of questions sent to me privately, and I thank you all very much for asking!
First and foremost, I'd say just about all of those questions can be answered by the rules post and the how to play post, located post number one and number two of the thread. It's a lot to read, and that's why I'm sure there was some skimming :wink: or folks scrolled right past it without clicking on the spoilers. Hey, it happens. You're definitely going to want to read those posts though, to get your bearings.
Secondly, as expected, a lot of people here were surprised to find out they were mafia, and had no idea who their teammates were or if they could even kill.
Yes, a concept which isn't all that confusing but runs contrary to the usual games is that the "townies" or protagonists in this game are all dead/former members of mafia families or serial killers, etc, from previous games, in other words, the antagonists of previous games. And the "mafia" or antagonists in this game are.... well, you'll find out, but they are called the anti-mafia and are of chaotic alignment. The "townies" in this game are called mafia and have evil alignment.
Thirdly, many of you have personal goals and side missions which seem impossible to achieve with your starting skill set and item alone.
This is intentional. As the game progresses, you can get more items, more credits, and more skills, and you'll have fewer folks to choose from if your mission involves other people. Therefore, your missions can become easier and more likely to succeed in time, and with effort.
I try not to make missions where all you do is guess correctly on N1 and you win. There is usually some skill and luck and effort involved.
So far everything has already been covered, besides that, so no need to make a FAQ just yet. But keep the questions coming, please!
landlubber
04-18-2011, 01:23
I'm ready... let's go!
Please take a breather and read the game rules ... :book: :help: :furious3: :juggle2: :oops: :laugh4:
God Emperor
04-18-2011, 03:16
:book: :help: :furious3: :juggle2: :oops: :laugh4:
haha :D
El Barto
04-18-2011, 03:50
You don't vote here...you use credits...and you must bold your votes.
Bet: 5 credits on El Barto
See, like this. :tongue:
:jester: Indeed. Bet: Five Gazillion credits on Seon.
Edit: Actually, you are not even in this game :inquisitive:
Oh really? Don't you keep tabs on the signups thread?
And the game doesn't begin for another day anyway.
Stop bothering with trifling details, it's the larger picture that matters. Bet: another gazillion on choxorn.
I'd say just about all of those questions can be answered by the rules post and the how to play post, located post number one and number two of the thread. It's a lot to read, and that's why I'm sure there was some skimming :wink: or folks scrolled right past it without clicking on the spoilers.
Pffft. Do youe xpect me to interrupt my procrastination to actually read? :holiday: It0s very nearly Easter by now, can't be arsed to do useful stuff like reading through Mafia.
So, it is my understanding that we are not in any way allowed to provide subtle hints to our identities or alignments. Only straight-forward revelations can be made, and only publicly, correct? I think it would be real nice if we could be subtle with our tells, perhaps through roleplaying. But I trust Pizza's judgement, and look forward to the beginning of this grand game!
Bow-wow-wow
04-18-2011, 05:33
So let me get this straight, The Mafia are Townies and the Anti-mafia are mafia????
:dizzy2::dizzy2::dizzy2::help:
So, it is my understanding that we are not in any way allowed to provide subtle hints to our identities or alignments. Only straight-forward revelations can be made, and only publicly, correct? I think it would be real nice if we could be subtle with our tells, perhaps through roleplaying. But I trust Pizza's judgement, and look forward to the beginning of this grand game!
I think you're allowed to hint about who you are in public even if you don't outright state who you are.
So let me get this straight, The Mafia are Townies and the Anti-mafia are mafia????
:dizzy2::dizzy2::dizzy2::help:
In a nutshell, yes.
I find it easier to think in terms of "Evil" and "Chaotic" rather than "Mafia" and "Anti-Mafia".
ATPG, if I'm correct the game starts in 20 minutes, right?
Askthepizzaguy
04-18-2011, 05:57
We are at T-minus 3 minutes.
AND COUNTING........
Reminder: MAX WAGER for DAY ONE is set at 10 credits only. Max wager will increase by 10 per day phase.
And you're all set. GO! 47 hours and 52 minutes remain.
Askthepizzaguy
04-18-2011, 08:47
Please read the Useful Links section (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053296198&viewfull=1#post2053296198) (Post 3 of the Game Thread). I have listed games which are referenced by this game, and all the POSSIBLE characters for the evil faction in this game, by listing all the antagonists from all the games referenced.
However, I did not indicate which evil villains I have omitted from play. Obviously there are not over 100 characters in this game.
This should be an important reference for you.
Bet: 1 Credit on Askthepizzaguy
He hasn't said he isn't playing the game yet, which means he's somehow involved in the game, and voting for him will cause something to happen!
Askthepizzaguy
04-18-2011, 09:06
Bet: 1 Credit on Askthepizzaguy
He hasn't said he isn't playing the game yet, which means he's somehow involved in the game, and voting for him will cause something to happen!
Upon being released from the underworld, they find several of their fellow mafiosi have already been slain by an unknown hostile force. Suspecting that the townies who killed them in the first place might have had something to do with this, they begin accusing one another of being guilty of these traitorous and murderous acts. A few even suspected that the game host Askthepizzaguy might have had something to do with this, but he just laughed off such a silly suggestion and told them to try again.
And Askthepizzaguy is proven psychic once again.
Believer
04-18-2011, 10:19
The Gods of Random has spoken to me. I will be the herald of their bidding.
Bet: 1 credit on God Emperor
Bet: 1 credit on Seon
You know too much about this newfangled 'voting' system!
Bet: 10 Credits upon arpTHIS
God Emperor
04-18-2011, 11:37
Bet: 1 credit on B_Ray
bet: 2 credit on El Barto
Thou shalt diest by my hands, you cat-fiend!
Greyblades
04-18-2011, 13:01
bet 1 cred on beskar
ArpeggiateTHIS
04-18-2011, 13:09
Bet: 10 Credits upon arpTHIS
NO U
Bet: 10 credits upon Subotan
robbiecon
04-18-2011, 13:24
Bet: 1 credit on Major Robert Dump
I saw you enter the Cracks Of Gehenna with a maniacal laugh, delighted to finally be there, and there you shall return!
ArpeggiateTHIS
04-18-2011, 13:56
Fold
Bet 1 credit: Subotan
Death is yonder
04-18-2011, 14:28
There can be miracles like catching scum round 1, when you believe!
Bet 1 Credit: Believer
Captain Blackadder
04-18-2011, 14:48
Bet 1 credit Jolt
Random vote
Well gee that was embarrassing.
Bet 1 credit: Methos
Bet 1 credit Seon
Random.
autolycus
04-18-2011, 16:51
I'd like to at least have an outside shot at keeping my credits, so I will Bet: 2 credits on Subotan.
Fold
Bet 1 credit: Subotan
I AM WINNER
(http://ui30.gamespot.com/637/winner_2.png)
Fold; Bet 4 credits on Captain Blackadder
Bow-wow-wow
04-18-2011, 20:12
Bet: 1 credit on Subotan
Bet: 1 Credit on autolycus
Isn't gambling like a sure way to send you to the devil?
El Barto
04-18-2011, 20:52
bet: 2 credit on El Barto
Thou shalt diest by my hands, you cat-fiend!
Oh, so this is how you want it to be. Bet:2 credits on Herr Doktor Szeon.
mythmonster2
04-18-2011, 21:20
Ah yes, the fun of the first day.
Bet: 1 credit on choxorn
How ya doin, buddy?
thefluffyone93
04-18-2011, 21:46
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/thefluffyone93/spy-is-spy.jpg?t=1303159537
Bet: 3 credits on Red_Spy
GamezRule
04-18-2011, 22:19
bet: 3 credits on Takhisis (El Barto)
Earthling
04-18-2011, 22:21
I AM WINNER
Fold; Bet 4 credits on Captain Blackadder
Bet: 1 credit on Subotan
Why are you throwing away your credits? Or does folding not lose the credits you already bet? Cause then someone could bet like the maximum each day and wait to "fold" 5 minutes before the deadline - and lose only their 1 credit ante? I and probably a lot of others can't be around right before the deadline each day to fold and rebet and if that's the case the town should really not encourage that to happen.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-18-2011, 22:28
Bet: 1 credit on Seon
You know too much about this newfangled 'voting' system!
Long time no see Shlin!!
Bet: 1 Credit on autolycus
Isn't gambling like a sure way to send you to the devil?
Perhaps........
Bet:1 Credit on Chaotix
bet: 3 credits on Takhisis (El Barto)
Takhisis is El Barto?
fold, bet: 1 credit on El Barto
Just on principle. Welcome to the .org, Takhisis!
Bet: 1 credit on Subotan
Why are you throwing away your credits? Or does folding not lose the credits you already bet? Cause then someone could bet like the maximum each day and wait to "fold" 5 minutes before the deadline - and lose only their 1 credit ante? I and probably a lot of others can't be around right before the deadline each day to fold and rebet and if that's the case the town should really not encourage that to happen.
Have you never played a poker game where the blind rises throughout?
Beefy187
04-19-2011, 00:13
Bet: 1 credit on Shlin
Welcome back!
El Barto
04-19-2011, 00:45
bet: 3 credits on Takhisis (El Barto)
Takhisis is El Barto?
fold, bet: 1 credit on El Barto
Just on principle. Welcome to the .org, Takhisis!
How kind of you. You nearly make me want to go near you.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that folding means you completely lose whatever you had previously bet. Which is probably one reason Pizza is so adamant about not editing your bids.
a completely inoffensive name
04-19-2011, 01:01
Bet: 1 credit on Renata.
a completely inoffensive name
04-19-2011, 01:02
Forgot to mention it was random.org.
El Barto
04-19-2011, 02:19
Nyah, nyah, nyah! You've lost a credit, Renata!
Skooma Addict
04-19-2011, 06:17
Bet: 1 credit on Double A
Askthepizzaguy
04-19-2011, 06:36
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that folding means you completely lose whatever you had previously bet. Which is probably one reason Pizza is so adamant about not editing your bids.
Folding is like unvoting, you keep your credits.
MID-DAY TALLY:
Subotan: 6 (1 ArpThis, 2 Autolycus, 1 Bow, 1 Earthling, 1 Red_spy,
El Barto: 6 (2 Seon, 3 Gamez, 1 Renata,
Seon: 4 (1 Shlin, 1 Romanic, 2 El Barto,
Blackadder: 4 (4 Subotan,
Red_Spy: 3 (3 Fluffy,
God Emperor: (1 Believer,
B_ray: (1 God Emperor,
Beskar: (1 Greyblades,
Major RD: (1 Robbiecon,
Believer: (1 Death is yonder,
Jolt: (1 Blackadder,
Autolycus: (1 Chaotix
choxorn: (1 Myth,
Fluffy (1 Zack,
Chaotix: (1 Warman,
Shlin28: (1 Beefy,
Renata: (1 ACIN,
Double A: (1 Skooma Addict,
Abstain: (1 B_ray,
Not Betting: 23
Backwards Logic
Beskar
ByzantineKnight
choxorn
civplayah
Classical_hero
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
dcmort93
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Ironside
Jolt
Kagemusha
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Methos
Psychonaut
TheFlax
Visorslash
YLC
Ironside
04-19-2011, 10:06
So Tzeentch, you say that ACIN is one of your followers this time?
Bet: 1 credit on ACIN
dcmort93
04-19-2011, 12:48
I'll Bet: 1 credit on Warman
Fold, it would be impolite to kill a newcomer to the org, even if he is a demon cat.
Meanwhile...
anti-mafia and are of chaotic alignment. The "townies" in this game are called mafia and have evil alignment.
Bet: 3 credit on chaotix
Seon is clearly still the most suspicious person here, mustn't let him get away by the skin of his teeth!
:idea2:
Fold, Bet: 5 credit on Seon
fold, bet: 5 credits on Captain Blackadder
Seon's too cool to die.
Bet: 1 on B_Ray
Because you are stole Beefy's avatar and it keeps confusing me.
Kagemusha
04-19-2011, 16:39
Bet 1 Credit on Renata. Connection between Renata and Seon?
Stay away from my lady friend!
Fold; bet 10 credit on Kagescumusha
Because you are stole Beefy's avatar and it keeps confusing me.
Hey, I was a member before he was. :indian_chief: And a mafia player before him, too, so if you ask me, he stole my avatar.
ByzantineKnight
04-19-2011, 18:40
No need to fear, ByzantineKnight is here and as we all know I'm never mafia ^_^
Bet: 5 credits on Chaotix, I think Seon is on to something.
And welcome to the .Org all you new players!
El Barto
04-19-2011, 19:23
What new players? Also, Seon, if you're calling Kagemusha scum, you're calling him an Innocent… right?
Kagemusha
04-19-2011, 19:45
Stay away from my lady friend!
Fold; bet 10 credit on Kagescumusha
Sniff...Snifff..Is it chivalry i smell? Have we found an townie? Fold and bet 10 credit on Seon.
ByzantineKnight
04-19-2011, 19:52
What new players? Also, Seon, if you're calling Kagemusha scum, you're calling him an Innocent… right?
New players to the .Org such as yourself I am assuming. I'm sure you've played mafia before ^_^
What new players? Also, Seon, if you're calling Kagemusha scum, you're calling him an Innocent… right?
More or less, yeah. :tongue: I kind of like being crazy
Byzantine Knight, why did you follow up on Chaotix for such a ridiculous reason?
fold, bet 10 creds on Byzantine knight
ByzantineKnight
04-19-2011, 20:53
More or less, yeah. :tongue: I kind of like being crazy
Byzantine Knight, why did you follow up on Chaotix for such a ridiculous reason?
fold, bet 10 creds on Byzantine knight
It seems I misread my PM, I did not remember it mentioning that Anti-Mafia were chaotic alignment. Upon a quick re-read I found my mistake. Fold; Bet 2 on Renata for saying "What?" in a way that offended me deeply.
El Barto
04-19-2011, 20:57
Sniff...Snifff..Is it chivalry i smell? Have we found an townie? Fold and bet 10 credit on Seon.
Wow, so that's how you people OMGUS here. Can't you just say 'OMGUS' and leave it at that? :shake:
New players to the .Org such as yourself I am assuming. I'm sure you've played mafia before ^_^
I'm the Christopher Lee of Mafia games.
More or less, yeah. :tongue: I kind of like being crazy
Stop the posturing and join m-NotW XIII now!!!
Sure, if you take those creds off me :deal:
El Barto
04-19-2011, 21:22
Anyone posting there counts as a sign-up. Gotcha!
(Once I recover from this blasted illness, then I'll do a decent write-up for that game)
Earthling
04-19-2011, 21:33
Well, I could have just made up my mind to wager just one credit every day and not discuss this again. I know I simply can't be around right before deadlines to control the lynch that way and I don't even want to bother.
Except I did spend the time to think about ways the town can work this out, so I'll post my proposal. I think we all commit to 5 or so credit bets each day, that way a solid majority vote or wagon can build up enough credits that one guy on any side can't swing it alone. Obviously someone might try to bet 40, 50, 60 or whatever just to save themselves but it wouldn't be enough that just one chaotic gets out of it alone.
Then otherwise, anyone who "folds" just so they don't lose money, rewagers right at the deadline, etc... we collectively punish very harshly. Without us collectively agreeing to this in advance it seems guaranteed to fail, because somebody is just going to want to lynch someone else, get a guy from a rival faction or whatever, and fold and rewager like 50 credits some day before a deadline, which is terrible for the town. There's simply no possible way I can see this working.
If we don't have any collective ideas then I definitely will be wagering only one credit every day, wake me on like day 10 if I'm around, because I personally could not manage to do anything useful otherwise.
Those who can show up right around the deadline - well they can either can just fold and lose only 1 credit total, or get to choose who to lynch. But for the rest of us:
Can't show up right before the deadline, just make 1 credit bets - you don't lose money but your vote is completely worthless
Can't show up right before the deadline, try to actually bet a large amount on someone - probably the very worst option almost every time. Even if you actually thought Bob was guilty and bet like 30 credits on him, that still doesn't really stop Charlie, David, and Fred from showing up right at the deadline and adding up wagers and making their own to get the outcome they want. Except you actually lose 30 credits on a lynch that doesn't even happen.
I also propose that for today, if someone has to be lynched (and they do, right?) that whoever is around before the deadline and actually making the bets that count - maybe you at least make it a tie between two folks and give them a fighting chance to duel, whoever's around right at the deadline getting to outright sentence the first person they want to death is a little offputting.
ByzantineKnight
04-19-2011, 21:56
Fold; Bet 10 on Earthling
El Barto
04-19-2011, 22:13
Earthling, you're already text-walling on Day One?
Backwards Logic
04-19-2011, 22:17
Well, I could have just made up my mind to wager just one credit every day and not discuss this again. I know I simply can't be around right before deadlines to control the lynch that way and I don't even want to bother.
Except I did spend the time to think about ways the town can work this out, so I'll post my proposal. I think we all commit to 5 or so credit bets each day, that way a solid majority vote or wagon can build up enough credits that one guy on any side can't swing it alone. Obviously someone might try to bet 40, 50, 60 or whatever just to save themselves but it wouldn't be enough that just one chaotic gets out of it alone.
Then otherwise, anyone who "folds" just so they don't lose money, rewagers right at the deadline, etc... we collectively punish very harshly. Without us collectively agreeing to this in advance it seems guaranteed to fail, because somebody is just going to want to lynch someone else, get a guy from a rival faction or whatever, and fold and rewager like 50 credits some day before a deadline, which is terrible for the town. There's simply no possible way I can see this working.
If we don't have any collective ideas then I definitely will be wagering only one credit every day, wake me on like day 10 if I'm around, because I personally could not manage to do anything useful otherwise.
Those who can show up right around the deadline - well they can either can just fold and lose only 1 credit total, or get to choose who to lynch. But for the rest of us:
Can't show up right before the deadline, just make 1 credit bets - you don't lose money but your vote is completely worthless
Can't show up right before the deadline, try to actually bet a large amount on someone - probably the very worst option almost every time. Even if you actually thought Bob was guilty and bet like 30 credits on him, that still doesn't really stop Charlie, David, and Fred from showing up right at the deadline and adding up wagers and making their own to get the outcome they want. Except you actually lose 30 credits on a lynch that doesn't even happen.
I also propose that for today, if someone has to be lynched (and they do, right?) that whoever is around before the deadline and actually making the bets that count - maybe you at least make it a tie between two folks and give them a fighting chance to duel, whoever's around right at the deadline getting to outright sentence the first person they want to death is a little offputting.
It sort of makes sense early (to a certain extent), but as the bet limit increases with each day and as others spend money at night to do things this will become harder and harder. I'd rather just let the betting fall as it may, and then if we see Charlie, David and Fred show up late to swing the vote off of Bob, we can use our credits saved by not mass betting to attempt a vig kill, do a scan, etc on one or multiple of them. I'd in fact argue otherwise that we want small bets early that over time slowly inflate in conjunction with whatever the limit is for the day than to have mass betting all over the place. It just feels like in a sea of money the anti-mafia can hide a bit better and rest a little easier that there's not enough money around for people to do a lot of scanning/vig'ing/etc. Small bets scattered among a number of people will have a higher percentage chance to draw the anti-mafia out than mass betting on one or two people to prevent a third from swinging the vote off of one of them. Sure, someone can swing the vote at the last minute quite easily by only betting in small increments, but you know what? Let them. There's counters to that. It's really the same premise to why mass bandwagoning one person in a mafia game is a terrible idea. Just because I don't agree at all:
Bet: 1 credit on Earthling
thefluffyone93
04-19-2011, 22:51
...........
Me no think Spy iz spy now.....
Fold; Bet 3 on Earthling
johnhughthom
04-19-2011, 23:04
I'm the Christopher Lee of Mafia games.
What do you mean, in the post game edit most of your role is cut?
Earthling
04-19-2011, 23:18
It's really the same premise to why mass bandwagoning one person in a mafia game is a terrible idea. Just because I don't agree at all:
This has nothing to do with anything I said, at all. I'd really expect better than that. You criticize a statement that no one made, while your own suggestion as a solution is what I already explicitly suggested - convince everyone to make small, roughly 5 credit votes and to harshly judge those who deviate or try to swing the vote.
I knew that even bothering to talk about this could draw out scum who disagree with the idea of active, smart voting against the chaotics. Though that said, a chaotic probably wouldn't come out with a hasty, inaccurate post like you did either there.
Though, We'll probably see this in action today regardless of those who would actually cares. Whoever's online before the deadline probably decides today's vote with 10 credits bets or something, and they could even be killing someone on their own faction for no reason.
Major Robert Dump
04-19-2011, 23:57
So far, Earthling is the only person to clearly insinuate that he is mafia (town). But is this accurate or a bluff? Whoever his allies are will have more than enough credits this early to successfully vig block him during the night phase. Vig Killing a likely lynch victim is a waste of resources anyway. The most dangerous thing sabout claims, votes and reading between the lines is that in the early phases people often lynch their own teammates.
Personally, I think we should all vote ourselves into a massive tie and have a giant battle-royale duel, but someone would show up at the last minute and mess it all up by voting one credit.
I still don't know who to vote for
Backwards Logic
04-20-2011, 00:03
Within the context of betting limits (and in particular, today's ten), 5 is not small. It's half what someone can bet. If this number keeps getting upped as the limit increases, there will be even less money down the road. As I understand things, our income each night is at a fixed number of ten. Look at the gold cost to do certain actions. It ain't cheap, and a result is not guaranteed either. We keep spending more and more during the day, the less we'll have later in the more critical stages. Throwing a ton of money around early is quite wasteful imo. I'm saying we can do more with much less, leaving more money to spend at night to sniff out who's who. Pretty straightforward.
So many new people! This is at once a crisis and an opportunity, and I for one am going to make the best out of both.
I'm the Christopher Lee of Mafia games.
You've stabbed a Nazi?
mythmonster2
04-20-2011, 03:33
It's a wall o text... on the first day with no serious accusations. Granted, it is about betting and the tactics thereof, but a good as reason as any, I suppose! Certainly better than my vote on choxy.
Fold; Bet one on Earthling
Do note my confidence in the bet.
Bet 1 credit Jolt
Random vote
I would bet my 100 on you, but unfortunately, credits are a rare commodity.
Abstain
ByzantineKnight
04-20-2011, 04:04
Yawn
Fold; Bet 3 credits on mythmonster2 for an awful reason to vote the leading lynch.
Also, I had a reason to vote Earthling but I think I'll wait a few rounds before sharing just incase anyone else slips up.
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 04:06
Jolt, Abstaining still causes you to lose 1 credit, so vote 1 for the CPT.
Byzantine Knight has implicitly stated he is pro-chaotic, and he is picking on a new member which is just bad tact:
Bet 1, ByzantineKnight
mythmonster2
04-20-2011, 04:10
When did Byzantine state that? (The pro-chaotic part, not the picking on a new member)
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 04:12
And then he changes his vote as I post this, but changes it for another new member who is also new, and probably also friends with the other new guy. But he still said he changed his vote for a chaotic when he discovered chaotic were anti-mafia, which means he is anti-mafia. And he lives in Texas.
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 04:16
It seems I misread my PM, I did not remember it mentioning that Anti-Mafia were chaotic alignment. Upon a quick re-read I found my mistake. Fold; Bet 2 on Renata for saying "What?" in a way that offended me deeply.
BK voted for Chaotix on the pretense that his name implied his guilt, an accusation first made by Seon. Upon discovering chaotic was actually anti-town, he rescinded his vote, according to his own explanation.
Jolt, Abstaining still causes you to lose 1 credit, so vote 1 for the CPT.
Byzantine Knight has implicitly stated he is pro-chaotic, and he is picking on a new member which is just bad tact:
Bet 1, ByzantineKnight
Oh.
Unabstain; Bet: 1 Capt Blackadder
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 04:19
Sniff...Snifff..Is it chivalry i smell? Have we found an townie? Fold and bet 10 credit on Seon.
Of course, this quote is also unsettling, as BK and Kagemusha gang up on Seon and Renata, implying that Kage makes his vote based on assumption that someone is a townie (mafia)
I'm taking MRD's advice.
Unabstain, Bet: 1 MRD
Fold, Bet 1 on Earthling
Earthlings are from Earth, the place that killed us. Clearly he's not one of us!
Askthepizzaguy
04-20-2011, 05:43
Near end-day tally
Seon: 18 (5 Shlin, 1 Romanic, 2 El Barto, 10 Kagemusha
ByzKnight: 11 (10 Seon, 1 Major Robert Dump
Blackadder: 10 (4 Subotan, 5 Renata, 1 Jolt
Earthling: 7 (1 Backwards Logic, 3 Fluffy, 1 Link, 1 Myth, 1 choxorn
Subotan: 6 (1 ArpThis, 2 Autolycus, 1 Bow, 1 Earthling, 1 Red_spy,
El Barto: 3 (3 Gamez,
MythMonster 3 (3 ByzKnight
B_ray: 2 (1 God Emperor, 1 Beskar
Major RD: 2 (1 Robbiecon, 1 Csargo
God Emperor: (1 Believer,
Beskar: (1 Greyblades,
Believer: (1 Death is yonder,
Jolt: (1 Blackadder,
Autolycus: (1 Chaotix
Fluffy (1 Zack,
Chaotix: (1 Warman
Shlin28: (1 Beefy,
Renata: (1 ACIN,
Double A: (1 Skooma Addict,
ACIN: (1 Ironside
Warman: (1 dcmort,
Abstain: (1 B_ray, 1 TheFlax,
Fold ;bet 10 credit on Capt. Blackadder
Preemptive strike.
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 05:56
Fold.
Bet 10: CPT Blackadder
I'm just here for the credits. Such scum I am
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 05:58
Fold.
Bet 10: CPT Blackadder
wrong format
Askthepizzaguy
04-20-2011, 06:00
TIME UP.
NO MORE WAGERS WILL BE ACCEPTED AT 0100.
END-DAY TALLY:
Blackadder: 30 (4 Subotan, 5 Renata, 1 Jolt, 10 Seon, 10 MRD) :skull:
Seon: 18 (5 Shlin, 1 Romanic, 2 El Barto, 10 Kagemusha)
Earthling: 7 (1 Backwards Logic, 3 Fluffy, 1 Link, 1 Myth, 1 choxorn)
Subotan: 6 (1 ArpThis, 2 Autolycus, 1 Bow, 1 Earthling, 1 Red_spy)
El Barto: 3 (3 Gamez,)
MythMonster 3 (3 ByzKnight)
B_ray: 2 (1 God Emperor, 1 Beskar)
Major RD: 2 (1 Robbiecon, 1 Csargo)
God Emperor: (1 Believer,)
Beskar: (1 Greyblades,)
Believer: (1 Death is yonder,)
Jolt: (1 Blackadder,)
Autolycus: (1 Chaotix)
Fluffy (1 Zack,)
Chaotix: (1 Warman)
Shlin28: (1 Beefy,)
Renata: (1 ACIN,)
Double A: (1 Skooma Addict,)
ACIN: (1 Ironside)
Warman: (1 dcmort,)
Abstain: (1 B_ray, 1 TheFlax, )
Not Betting: 11
civplayah
Classical_hero
Crazed Rabbit
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Double A
landlubber
Methos
Psychonaut
Visorslash
YLC
Askthepizzaguy
04-20-2011, 06:51
DAY ONE
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The doomed souls gathered together in the center of the city, just as the sun was setting, after discussing amongst themselves who might have been responsible for their comrades' destruction. Many fingers were pointed, but eventually there was a lead candidate chosen. He had been accused most strongly by two beings who were absolutely certain that he was guilty of being a traitor. The accused didn't even have a chance to defend himself before the day was over, as the allegations were made at such a late hour. The angelic being appeared before them to hear their answer.
Angel: "Who among you have you found responsible for the deaths of Jeremy Bentham and Niccolo Machiavelli?"
Captain Blackadder was pushed forward, though the crowd murmured at the choice, as another candidate had been leading until the final moments. Still, no one stepped forward to defend Captain Blackadder.
Angel: "Captain Blackadder, you have been found guilty by your peers...."
Captain Blackadder: "Guilty of what? I've done nothing wrong! Who pointed the finger at me? I'll take them all on by myself."
Angel: "SILENCE! You have a right to face your accusers. Subotan, Renata, Jolt, Seon, and Major Robert Dump. Step forward."
Captain Blackadder: "It was you.... it was you who did this to me.... now you will all suffer the consequences. Consequences MOST DIRE!!!"
The assembled group readied themselves for combat.
Captain Blackadder: "Now I will show you my TRUE FORM.... Look upon me in horror, and flee.... IF YOU CAN!!!"
Captain Blackadder removed his cloak and hood, to reveal a figure so horrifying that it defies all description.
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Captain Blackadder: "So what's the deal with airline food? I mean, could this stuff actually taste any worse? It's, like, "Thanks, but no thanks. I'm still stuffed from that huge bag of smoked almonds!"
The other beings stood ready to defend themselves, but were slightly confused.
Captain Blackadder: "And what is the deal with those bags of peanuts? Why do they think that the first thing we want when we get on a plane is a peanut?"
By now, everyone in the crowd was stunned into silence. You could hear the proverbial pin drop.
Captain Blackadder: "And what is the deal with the Captain? When did this guy become a "Captain", I mean isn't he just a pilot? If he's a captain then I'm the rear admiral. Because I sit in the back of the plane!"
Somewhere in the distance, crickets started chirping.
Captain Blackadder: "And what is the deal with the pilot always giving us updates on what he's doing. It's like, thanks for the information. The passengers are back here eating peanuts."
Major Robert Dump: "All right, everyone! Prepare to kill the foul beast! Show no mercy!"
Captain Blackadder: "And what is the deal with this guy ordering people around? Doesn't he realize I'm the Captain?"
The other beings advanced on Jerry Seinfeld, and swiftly beat the unfunny comedian to a bloody pulp, and tossed his broken body in front of the angelic being.
Angel: "Jerry Seinfeld, you are hereby sentenced to death. Have you any final words to say?"
Captain Blackadder: "I'll tell you what I like about Chinese people. They're stickin' with the chopsticks."
The angelic being bathed itself in light, and summoned a massive orb of energy. Within moments, the orb began glowing white hot, and the being cast the orb of burning energy directly at Jerry Seinfeld, who was instantly consumed by terrifying flame. The comedian never stood a chance, and incinerated instantly.
"I guess he forgot that a major outranks a captain." Major Robert Dump said with a wry grin.
______________________________
Summary of events:
Captain Blackadder has been lynched!
Captain Blackadder was Jerry Seinfeld, of the Bizarro Mafia faction!
Captain Blackadder was NEUTRAL!
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2 of Clubs
Alive Players- (49/50)
A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Believer
Beskar
Bow-wow-wow
ByzantineKnight
B_Ray
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Classical_hero
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Earthling
El Barto
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
Jolt
Kagemusha
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Methos
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Seon
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
TheFlax
Visorslash
Warman
YLC
Zack
Deceased-
Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
Because Jerry Seinfeld was neutral, those who wagered credits against him will have their credits returned to them, as the lynch is considered successful.
Everyone else has lost their wager and the credits will be deducted from their total.
Please read this tutorial on sending in Night Actions.
TO SEND IN NIGHT ORDERS
Item-based action
Credit-based action
Skill-based action
You can send in one action from two of these categories. It's highly recommended you at least use your item and a skill, so as not to waste your talents, even if you're saving your credits.
Item-based action
Item-based actions, here's the format for sending in an order.
Use my scanning item to scan Sasaki Kojiro.Doesn't need to be bolded, but I do need to know what item, and what target. Those are important pieces of information.
Some items do not require orders to function, such as self-defense items. They are always active. I will inform you if you get an item which functions automatically. All other items require an order to function, or else they are not used that night.
Items generally do not disappear and can be re-used. I'll inform you if you find a single-use item.
Credit-based action
Choose from the list:
Purchase abilities:
Self-defense: (50% chance) 50 credits
Defend other: (50% chance) 50 credits
Faction scan: 25 credits
Block an action: 60 credits
Block all actions: 80 credits
Vigilante attempt: (50% chance) 70 credits
Detective scan: (Activity, role claim, faction) 80 credits
Vigilante attempt: (80% chance) 150 credits
Revive: (80% chance) 180 credits
Steal credits: (50% chance) 1 credits for every 4 attempted to steal.
Steal item: (50% chance) 70 credits
Self-defense: (100% chance) 100 credits
Defend other: (100% chance) 120 credits
Scan items: (80% chance) 180 credits
1 successful self-defense when attacked allows you to perform a self-defense action every night, with 25% effectiveness.
2 successful self-defense actions allows you to perform a self-defense action every night, at 50% effectiveness.
3 successful self-defense actions allows you to perform a self-defense action every night, at 75% effectiveness.
2 successful defend other actions allows you to perform a defend other action every night at 60% effectiveness.
3 successful faction scans allows you to perform a faction scan every night if you wish.
2 successful roleblocks allows you to perform that action every night at 75% effectiveness.
2 successful vigilante attempts allows you to perform that action every night at 50% effectiveness.
3 successful vigilante attempts allows you to perform that action every night at 80% effectiveness.
2 successful detective scans allows you to perform that action every night at 75% effectiveness.
1 successful revive allows you to perform that action every night at 40% effectiveness.
3 successful steal credits actions allows you to perform that action every night at 80% effectiveness.
2 successful steal item actions allows you to perform that action every night at 75% effectiveness.
Format:
I spend 25 credits to perform a faction scan on SasakiSkill-based action
I use my natural talents to perform a vigilante kill on SasakiUse the term "skill" or "natural ability" or "natural talent" or whatever to indicate that you're not using items or credits on this one.
Skill-based actions are likely to fail without natural ability in that area. But at least you'll find out if you're talented in that area.
Any other questions? Send me a message. :bow:
BEGIN NIGHT ONE.
Askthepizzaguy
04-20-2011, 09:34
Heads up: I will decline to respond to all questions pertaining to the cards, for all those of you who asked.
I was planning on never mentioning them at all, but I don't want to be rude towards you my players. This is the last I will speak on the matter.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-20-2011, 12:53
Now it's KnightTime, I mean Night Time!
ByzantineKnight
04-20-2011, 13:28
Fold, Bet 1 on Earthling
Earthlings are from Earth, the place that killed us. Clearly he's not one of us!
FOS: Choxorn
Fold.
Bet 10: CPT Blackadder
I'm just here for the credits. Such scum I am
Just a heads up, if he wasn't neutral then you would have lost your 10 credits, so you may not want to jump on the leading candidate at the end of each phase...
EDIT: Major, why you misunderstand me :(
BK voted for Chaotix on the pretense that his name implied his guilt, an accusation first made by Seon. Upon discovering chaotic was actually anti-town, he rescinded his vote, according to his own explanation.
No, I voted for Chaotix because he knew the name of the alignment of the Anti-Mafia faction (Chaotic). I didn't read my PM closely enough and I missed where it was stated. I understood Seon's argument to be the same thing. Upon discovering that my PM had stated that the Anti-Mafia were chaotically(spl?) aligned I took back my vote because it had no basis.
And then he changes his vote as I post this, but changes it for another new member who is also new, and probably also friends with the other new guy. But he still said he changed his vote for a chaotic when he discovered chaotic were anti-mafia, which means he is anti-mafia. And he lives in Texas.
I changed my vote originally because I wanted to see if Earthling continued to ping on my scumdar and because I would have felt horrible if I had the majority share in a vote lynching a new orgah. You might also note that my vote, while not tiny, had no chance of leading to the lynch of mythmonster2. So you can hardly call it picking on a new member.
And what's wrong with Texas? :cry:
Captain Blackadder
04-20-2011, 13:41
damn it that is the second time in vexing mafia I was lynched first round I must be cursed.
ByzantineKnight
04-20-2011, 13:45
damn it that is the second time in veking mafia I was lynched first round I must be cursed.
We still love you...
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 14:13
BEST LAST WORDS. EVER
Byzantine Knight:
I was just throwing around hypotheses and reading into people's statements to try to find a good reason for a vote, and your statements were ambiguous. I was also not serious about you picking on new people. As for Texas, I don't know a lot about foreign countries so I figured it was as good a reason as any of the ones I saw posted here.
The betting was racketeering. Nothing to see here, move along.
Blackadder was lynched whether I showed up or not
ByzantineKnight
04-20-2011, 14:15
But how did you know you'd get your points back? Did you know his alignment prior to the lynch?
Texas is awesome ^_^ well, the summer sucks but otherwise I quite like it here.
I'm a little sad I lost that one credit.
No, I voted for Chaotix because he knew the name of the alignment of the Anti-Mafia faction (Chaotic). I didn't read my PM closely enough and I missed where it was stated. I understood Seon's argument to be the same thing. Upon discovering that my PM had stated that the Anti-Mafia were chaotically(spl?) aligned I took back my vote because it had no basis.
At least that explains what you were thinking. Seon's most recent post previous to yours was a bet on Kagemusha, not Chaotix.
Major Robert Dump
04-20-2011, 14:28
Actually, I misunderstand the rules apparently, as I thought bet was a bet was a bet. I will re-read again because I don't understand how faction plays into this.
If its any consolation, had Seon not changed his bet to Blackadder at the last minute, either Seon or you would have recieved my bet of 10 for the same reason I voted for BA.
ByzantineKnight
04-20-2011, 14:45
At least that explains what you were thinking. Seon's most recent post previous to yours was a bet on Kagemusha, not Chaotix.
Seon was betting on Chaotix at one point. I was referring to that post.
classical_hero
04-20-2011, 15:16
I thought I made a bet, but obviously it did not get posted for some reason.
El Barto
04-20-2011, 20:42
Well, you didn't lose you money at least.
*sigh* two blasted credits.
a completely inoffensive name
04-20-2011, 22:54
LOL. I'm glad I am getting some good lulz before I get killed on the first night like always.
mythmonster2
04-20-2011, 23:54
But how did you know you'd get your points back? Did you know his alignment prior to the lynch?
Texas is awesome ^_^ well, the summer sucks but otherwise I quite like it here.
Yo, Byzantine; no hard feelings from me to you. I dunno about you. You might still think me suspicious. Also, Texans FTW!
Besides that, why was Captain lynched anyways? I don't see anything particularly bad he did, but then suddenly people started placing 10 credit bets on him.
LOL. I'm glad I am getting some good lulz before I get killed on the first night like always.
You and me both Horseman :yes:
Bow-wow-wow
04-21-2011, 00:19
It seems like most people are just going to bet the maximum wager on the person in the lead at the last minuite and gain some easy credits.
El Barto
04-21-2011, 00:26
Texans suck, you Colonial hacks!
Yo, Byzantine; no hard feelings from me to you. I dunno about you. You might still think me suspicious. Also, Texans FTW!
Besides that, why was Captain lynched anyways? I don't see anything particularly bad he did, but then suddenly people started placing 10 credit bets on him.
I did it because I was scum and didn't want to die on the first night. Major Robert Dump did it because he is my scum pal and he doesn't want to see his scum pal die on the first night.
It seems like most people are just going to bet the maximum wager on the person in the lead at the last minuite and gain some easy credits.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually win any credits by betting on the person who gets lynched; you just get your credits back.
Earthling
04-21-2011, 01:00
Yeah, that's also wrong. You only get your credits back if the person is lynched and they are not "evil" - they are a chaotic scum or something else. Or of course you could just show up right before the deadline and fold to cancel your wager, and only lose one credit.
Several other people have made several statements that seem rather wrong, so my understanding of the right answers is below:
-People who abstain still lose 1 credit.
-The minimum wager is 1 credit, and the minimum wager is not going to increase by some factor each day.
-Texas sucks
I'd still encourage that collectively, all of us get a plan together to prevent this same thing from happening again and again, people who are able to waiting till the deadline and max betting out anybody else. Though I won't try to lead that effort myself again come this next day or whenever, I could just forget about it and make my own wagers trivial, still point out or discuss issues but there's no way I can be around for the deadline stuff for the next several days if need be.
Major Robert Dump
04-21-2011, 01:35
What I was hoping would happen is that a last minute, 10 credit bet would save the life of Earthling, who was trying to convince people from making last-minute, high credit bets, but BK had to go and mess that poetic event up by changing his bet.
I blame scummy Seon for the death of Blackadder, for I was merely hoping to score a successful bet and win some cheese. Since Blackadder was not Chaotic, there was no payout other than return of wager.
I ask everyone tilt their Natty Light and pour some onto the ground for our dead homie, Captain Blackadder.
Texans suck, you Colonial hacks!
That's quite nice of you.
Texas is a horrible den of villainy and scum. You heard me, Zack.
Believe me, I wouldn't live here by choice (excluding uni, of course).
Earthling
04-21-2011, 01:48
Honestly this was like the easiest way ever for like half of our faction to reveal who we are and be able to start working together with nobody else having a real clue about our roles or anything to strike back with.
Honestly this was like the easiest way ever for like half of our faction to reveal who we are and be able to start working together with nobody else having a real clue about our roles or anything to strike back with.
Oh you guys suck! :laugh4:
I've been meaning to do that but I can't come up with anything to reveal myself only to my allies and not the whole world.
GamezRule
04-21-2011, 02:04
Faction scan?
El Barto
04-21-2011, 02:25
That's quite nice of you.
Thank you! I knew you'd understand.
Texas is a horrible den of villainy and scum. You heard me, Zack.
Villainy? Why?
Believe me, I wouldn't live here by choice (excluding uni, of course).
It's probably better than here. Or not. maybe neither place is.
Faction scan?
And so reveal the identity of a scanner?
dcmort93
04-21-2011, 02:36
I'd like to wager a guess that the cards could have something either to do with the credit system or the player allignment
Bow-wow-wow
04-21-2011, 02:53
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually win any credits by betting on the person who gets lynched; you just get your credits back.
Yeah, that's also wrong. You only get your credits back if the person is lynched and they are not "evil" - they are a chaotic scum or something else. Or of course you could just show up right before the deadline and fold to cancel your wager, and only lose one credit.
Several other people have made several statements that seem rather wrong, so my understanding of the right answers is below:
-People who abstain still lose 1 credit.
-The minimum wager is 1 credit, and the minimum wager is not going to increase by some factor each day.
-Texas sucks
I'd still encourage that collectively, all of us get a plan together to prevent this same thing from happening again and again, people who are able to waiting till the deadline and max betting out anybody else. Though I won't try to lead that effort myself again come this next day or whenever, I could just forget about it and make my own wagers trivial, still point out or discuss issues but there's no way I can be around for the deadline stuff for the next several days if need be.
So if you only get your credits back, what is the point of betting more than 1 credit at all?
mythmonster2
04-21-2011, 02:55
So if you only get your credits back, what is the point of betting more than 1 credit at all?
What I think is going on is that if you bet on a person, they get lynched, and they're anti-mafia, then you get a positive return. Also, betting more credits gives more chances of that person being killed. Two people betting 50 each would beat 5 people betting 5 each, if I have this down correctly.
Bow-wow-wow
04-21-2011, 02:56
I'd like to wager a guess that the cards could have something either to do with the credit system or the player allignment
That is what I was thinking. Maybe spades, clubs, hearts and diamonds are 4 mafia factions and the chaotic faction is joker or something.
Bow-wow-wow
04-21-2011, 03:00
What I think is going on is that if you bet on a person, they get lynched, and they're anti-mafia, then you get a positive return. Also, betting more credits gives more chances of that person being killed. Two people betting 50 each would beat 5 people betting 5 each, if I have this down correctly.
That still seems strange that 3 or 4 people bet 10 credits on some random guy at the last second on the first day. If they knew before hand that he was mafia or anti-mafia I guess, then I would think that they would have posted sooner.
Major Robert Dump
04-21-2011, 03:00
NO THE CARDS ARE FOR STRIP POKER I ALREADY TOOK OFF MY PANTS
That is what I was thinking. Maybe spades, clubs, hearts and diamonds are 4 mafia factions and the chaotic faction is joker or something.
I doubt that. I think there are more than 4 factions out there. Probably at least 10.
Maybe each number corresponds to a faction- 2's are one faction, 5's are another, and... I don't know what the Chaotic Faction would be.
It also raises an interesting question: There are 52 cards (well, more if you add the Jokers), but only 50 of us.
El Barto
04-21-2011, 03:33
NO THE CARDS ARE FOR STRIP POKER I ALREADY TOOK OFF MY PANTS
Aaaarghhh!!! Get them on! On, I say!
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Kill. It. With. Fire.
I doubt that. I think there are more than 4 factions out there. Probably at least 10.
Maybe each number corresponds to a faction- 2's are one faction, 5's are another, and... I don't know what the Chaotic Faction would be.
It also raises an interesting question: There are 52 cards (well, more if you add the Jokers), but only 50 of us.
That'd be 54. Who knows what the cards will bring?
That'd be 54. Who knows what the cards will bring?
But there are only 50 players, and both Jokers were killed as NPC's on night zero.
WHERE ARE THE TWO MISSING CARDS???
Askthepizzaguy
04-21-2011, 04:05
Pizzaguy laughs at the delightful pain.
El Barto
04-21-2011, 04:22
Takhisis states that pizzaguy does not deserve capitalisation because it would mean discrimination against Askthe.
Askthepizzaguy
04-21-2011, 05:54
I have about 30 of 50 players sending in orders, which is pretty good! That's why these phases are 48 hours for now, because I would like to see near-full activity.
Don't forget guys, even if you don't have an item that can perform an active action, or don't want to spend credits, you have a hidden talent, and two action slots, and attempting a skill-based action costs you nothing. You don't know what your hidden talent is yet, so try to figure it out. It costs you nothing, and you could discover you're a natural detective, vigilante, roleblocker, bus driver, thief, reviver, defender..... anything.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Don't waste free chances to improve yourself or your knowledge of yourself.
Diana Abnoba
04-21-2011, 07:15
Just got semi caught up with thread, will send in orders as soon as I can.
Hello again to all. :bow:
ByzantineKnight
04-21-2011, 13:46
NO THE CARDS ARE FOR STRIP POKER I ALREADY TOOK OFF MY PANTS
BAD MAJOR!! PUT THOSE BACK ON THIS INSTANT! YOUR MOTHER AND I ARE GOING TO HAVE A TALK ABOUT THIS!!!
Honestly this was like the easiest way ever for like half of our faction to reveal who we are and be able to start working together with nobody else having a real clue about our roles or anything to strike back with.
I keep looking at my role PM trying to figure out if "Texas" could plausibly connect with one of my enemy factions, and I can't see that it does, not that I expect you'd all choose a breadcrumb that had any obvious connection to anything. Although if there does happen to be a Western mafia or some such, you realize you're all toast, right?
Here's hoping such ruminations bring some fear into your lives. I can't find anything great to breadcrumb with either, so schadenfreude is all I have to get me by.
Cheers, scumbags.
NO THE CARDS ARE FOR STRIP POKER I ALREADY TOOK OFF MY PANTS
Hmm, not bad. Shirt next, please.
Major Robert Dump
04-21-2011, 14:19
The problem with breadcrumbing is that there are multiple factions per side
Major Robert Dump
04-21-2011, 14:20
BAD MAJOR!! PUT THOSE BACK ON THIS INSTANT! YOUR MOTHER AND I ARE GOING TO HAVE A TALK ABOUT THIS!!!
How insensitive, my mother was lynched 4 games ago.
I'm saying cards are a form of hold Em. The question is, does everyone have them and how do we acquire theirs?
I'm guessing leftover items after a night kill?
Can they be stolen, and if so wouldn't than be an alternate method of "faction scanning" someone?
If they were unattainable after a lynch, this means in order to obtain a preferred hand one may have to save someone from lynch whilst murdering them at night for the sake of getting their card....
I AM CONFUSE
Bow-wow-wow
04-21-2011, 17:02
I doubt that. I think there are more than 4 factions out there. Probably at least 10.
Maybe each number corresponds to a faction- 2's are one faction, 5's are another, and... I don't know what the Chaotic Faction would be.
It also raises an interesting question: There are 52 cards (well, more if you add the Jokers), but only 50 of us.
That is a really good point with the 52 cards. I bet jokers are just being ignored and its 50 players + the 2 npcs = 52 cards.
Maybe red cards are chaotic and black cards are mafia or vice-versa, but then again that would mean that there is an equal amount of each faction, which I doubt is true.
Maybe the "Royalty" cards (Queen, King, etc.) are chaotic and the numbers are mafia factions. That seems to be a more realistic possibility.
Anyway, I'm just throwing out ideas for now.
I'm saying cards are a form of hold Em. The question is, does everyone have them and how do we acquire theirs?
I'm guessing leftover items after a night kill?
Can they be stolen, and if so wouldn't than be an alternate method of "faction scanning" someone?
If they were unattainable after a lynch, this means in order to obtain a preferred hand one may have to save someone from lynch whilst murdering them at night for the sake of getting their card....
I AM CONFUSE
I honestly think you're way off. The cards aren't obtainable items, that's for sure.
So obviously there's one for every player. I think that there is some definite system for how they're assigned, corresponding to faction and/or team. The purpose then is for us to eventually, in the very late game, be able to determine what roles are left by process of elimination and association. That's my theory.
That is a really good point with the 52 cards. I bet jokers are just being ignored and its 50 players + the 2 npcs = 52 cards.
Maybe red cards are chaotic and black cards are mafia or vice-versa, but then again that would mean that there is an equal amount of each faction, which I doubt is true.
Maybe the "Royalty" cards (Queen, King, etc.) are chaotic and the numbers are mafia factions. That seems to be a more realistic possibility.
Anyway, I'm just throwing out ideas for now.
DOESN'T WORK. THE TWO NPCS ARE THE JOKERS. THERE ARE 50 PLAYERS AND 52 NORMAL CARDS LEFT. WHERE ARE THE TWO MISSING CARDS OH GOD I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE
thefluffyone93
04-21-2011, 22:00
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN-
DOESN'T WORK. THE TWO NPCS ARE THE JOKERS. THERE ARE 50 PLAYERS AND 52 NORMAL CARDS LEFT. WHERE ARE THE TWO MISSING CARDS OH GOD I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE
I am one of the outliers.
My card:
Please don't hotlink. Images should be hosted. :bow:
FEAR ME!!!1
EDIT: Oh wait more, cards than players. Bleh, bad joke then.
Perhaps two players have cover roles, each of which has its own card? That would make sense, especially if the cards somehow correspond to certain aspects of our roles.
EDIT: With that in mind, anyone want to speculate on what Jerry Seinfeld's particular ability was? I'm guessing he would block other player's night actions. Probably by showing up and telling bad jokes for hours. (I actually find Seinfeld funny, though)
johnhughthom
04-22-2011, 01:28
I know what the cards mean. Na na na na na na. :smug:
Bow-wow-wow
04-22-2011, 01:38
How do you know that the NPCs are the jokers?
Maybe we all have secret cards that we don't know of yet, and something happens to the player whose card is selected.
Major Robert Dump
04-22-2011, 02:30
Yeah like maybe my secret card will make my shirt come off. Renata made me do it.
How do you know that the NPCs are the jokers?
Says so, in the write-up for Night 0.
Maybe we all have secret cards that we don't know of yet, and something happens to the player whose card is selected.
And what would those cards be? Like, another set of standard poker cards, or something completely different? I don't think either would make sense. Why have a secret set of cards?
Askthepizzaguy
04-22-2011, 04:00
Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.
1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vig-kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver
(switch two players so the effects applied to each will apply to the other... useful as a defensive or offensive weapon)12. Steal item
13. Steal credits Derp. Dunno what I was thinking. You always have to spend credits to steal credits.
Sorry I did not post this sooner. My mistake. Will add to opening posts.
Askthepizzaguy
04-22-2011, 06:48
NIGHT ONE
Define your meaning of war
To me it's what we do when we're bored
I feel the heat coming off of the blacktop
And it makes me want it more
Because I'm hyped up, outta control
If it's a fight I'm ready to go
I wouldn't put my money on the other guy
If you know what I know that I know
It's been a long time coming
And the tables' turned around
Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
I'm not running, it's a little different now
Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
-- Sick Puppies
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The sound of hooves clattering against pavement alerted TheFlax to the fact that someone was approaching. He turned around, half expecting to see a familiar face, but what he saw was someone... or something... that he did not recognize.
"Heh.... heh.... heh...."
The dark figure towered over TheFlax, raising its arms, summoning dark forces. TheFlax froze like a deer in headlights, but as soon as the stranger unleashed the evil orb, he took off like a bolt of lightning. He dashed down the street, as fast as he could. He was just about to turn the corner and escape down one of the alleys, when the dark energy ball impacted him in the back. TheFlax was thrown against a nearby building, and lay mortally wounded.
He looked around with sad eyes, hoping someone would save him from this dark figure, but no one came.
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classical_hero lay in the sewers, waiting for the inevitable. Somehow, he just knew that they were out to get him, whoever they were. The sound of a manhole cover scraping against pavement alerted him to the fact that someone was about to enter his dark and twisted lair.
The creature began to drool.... it could smell fresh meat. It lay waiting for the intruder to walk into its trap.
*BRAWWW...... BRAWWWWWW...... brappa brappa brappa......*
The creature was alarmed to hear the strange noise. It had never heard anything like it before, not in England, and not in this strange place. The creature was not afraid, and charged forward to devour whatever was making that horrendous noise.
The beast spotted the smaller figure, raising a tiny weapon. Unimpressed, the creature advanced, roaring loud enough for the entire city to hear. The beast swiped at the small foe, trying to crush it between its powerful limbs.
The beast was shocked to see its gigantic claw hacked clean from its body. Enraged, the beast lunged forward, trying to bite and slam the puny thing. Within seconds, the beast was covered with gaping wounds, flesh gouged from its body, and blood leaking everywhere. The beast was shocked that it was losing this battle so horribly, and could only scream in terror as the masked figure drove the chainsaw clean through its chest.
With one final roar, the beast tried to retaliate against the victorious foe, but it was too late. Classical_hero suffered a fatal heart attack, and the cartoon peril was no more.
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Kagemusha was quite beside himself. The duo went everywhere together, and they were usually foes. But having gone through hell and back, the pair of critters became fast friends, and stood ready to watch each other's back in this cruel and unforgiving place.
That is why, when the pair heard the sound of heavy footsteps approaching, they were ready. One of them held a giant mallet, and the other held an axe. They stood side by side, prepared for anything. Or so they thought.
A towering, massive figure stood before them, bellowing with evil laughter. They lunged forward.
A giant fireball impacted the smaller one, with the axe, knocking it backward and engulfing the poor creature with agonizing flames. The second creature stood toe-to-toe with the attacker, and attempted to bash it to death with the giant mallet. The blows, however, bounced off the creature's huge, intimidating frame. The assassin grabbed the larger creature and lifted it over its head, and impaled it on top of a fire hydrant. The other, smaller creature quickly burned to death.
The fight was all too brief, and the outcome certainly surprised the veterans of violence. But they were too dead to express their shock.
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ByzantineKnight stood proudly in the center of town. A massive figure, he felt he was prepared for anything, and felt no fear. When a familiar figure approached, the beast felt a kinship.... and immediately trusted the smaller figure. The two did not exchange any words.
However, ByzantineKnight suddenly felt an annoying stinging sensation in his chest and arms. He looked down and saw that bits and pieces of his skin were being torn apart by tiny projectiles. Confused, the creature looked around to see what could be causing it. The beast turned toward its new friend, the smaller figure, to see if it could gain any clues. The smaller figure was making a lot of noise, and this began to greatly irritate the towering beast even more than the tiny projectiles. Unable to connect the two annoyances, the great lumbering beast roared at its new friend, as if commanding him to be quiet.
When the noise continued, the great beast lumbered forward, roaring louder and smashing up parked cars and anything else standing in the way. The stinging sensation continued. Why was his new friend not listening to him? Stop making noise! Stop it!
The figure began slowly backing up, and it began throwing tiny egg shaped objects in the direction of ByzantineKnight. These tiny eggs clattered to the huge creature's feet. It looked down, wondering what they were. They exploded, coating the giant creature with flames. The creature hated the bright light and the noise of the explosion, and it became enraged. Maybe this familiar figure was no friend at all....
Finally, the creature turned toward its attacker and tried to stomp on it, but the smaller, faster figure moved out of the way. It tried to pound the figure into the pavement, but it kept moving. Finally, the giant beast grabbed a street light and pulled it out of the sidewalk, and began swinging it at its attacker. One of the blows landed solidly, and the much smaller foe went flying, and landed rather roughly some 30 feet away.
The flashing and the noises stopped, as did the stinging projectiles.
Satisfied, the confused giant lumbered towards the fallen foe, wondering why his friend was hurting him. The beast was startled when the figure managed to get to its feet, bloodied and battered though it was. The figure pulled two long blades from behind its back, and faced the giant. The giant stood its ground, still angry and confused at the unprovoked attack. The smaller figure lunged, moving faster than any human being possibly could. It buried the long blades deep into the giant's chest, impaling the creature straight through the heart.
Reacting instinctively, the giant slammed its heavy hands together, crushing the attacker, and it pulled the small foe off of its body, snapping bones in the process, knocking the wind out of the little thing. The monster then lifted the attacker up with one hand, and slammed it roughly against the ground, trying to kill it.
The giant could take no more of this abuse, and it began to transform.... the virus inside its body activated, and the already giant, enraged creature became more and more furious, and grew to several times its already formidable size. The bellowing creature could be seen and heard all across The Purgatory.
The smaller foe weakly pulled itself to its feet once again.... astounded that the creature would not die. It looked at the giant beast with glowing, furious, murderous eyes... It produced a crossbow seemingly out of nowhere, and aimed the weapon directly at the giant's face, and squeezed the trigger.
Tied tightly to the bolt was a small cylinder, filled with a special kind of powder, and protruding from the cylinder was a short, lit fuse. The bolt impacted the giant in the eye, causing the giant to stagger. The powder then exploded, shattering the giant's face and dealing a mortal blow.
The massive figure roared with indescribable fury, its body burning, bloodied, and blown to pieces. With its final bit of strength, the massive giant uttered the following word....
"Venganza...."
The creature fell forward, swiftly and with murderous intent. The smaller attacker could not move its battered body out of the way in time, and it was crushed beneath the huge corpse of El Gigante.
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B_Ray was hopping along, when suddenly a dark figure turned a corner and approached the small creature. B_Ray bared its fangs, and leaped into the air to deliver the decapitating blow.
RUN AWAY!!!!
However, a burst of powerful energy stopped B_ray in his little rabbit tracks, and the tiny creature was blown into smithereens almost instantly.
One Rabbit stew, coming up...
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Summary of events:
TheFlax has been murdered!
TheFlax was Blitzen, of the Bizarro Mafia faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Blitzen.png
TheFlax was EVIL!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/46.png
3 of Spades
classical_hero has been murdered!
classical_hero was The Black Beast of Aaarrghhh, of the Python Mafia faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/BlackbeastofArrgghhh.png
classical_hero was EVIL!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/9.png
Queen of Clubs
Kagemusha has been murdered!
Kagemusha was Itchy and Scratchy, of the Springfield Mafia faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/ItchyandScratchy.png
Kagemusha was EVIL!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/27.png
8 of Hearts
ByzantineKnight has been murdered!
ByzantineKnight was El Gigante, of the Dark Falls Mafia faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/ElGigante.png
ByzantineKnight was EVIL!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/13.png
Jack of Clubs
Seon has been slain in retaliation!
Seon was Alfred Branagh, of the Dark Falls Mafia faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Branagh.png
Seon was SCREWTAPE, of the Shadow Fort!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Screwtape.png
Seon was CHAOTIC!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/25.png
8 of Clubs
B_Ray has been murdered!
B_Ray was The Killer Rabbit, of the Python Mafia faction!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/RabbitofCaerbannog.png
B_Ray was EVIL!
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Other/5.png
King of Clubs
Alive Players- (43/50)
A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
B_Ray2 (Replacing Methos)
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Believer
Beskar
Bow-wow-wow
Captain Blackadder2 (Replacing Double A)
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Earthling
El Barto
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
Jolt
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Warman
YLC
Zack
Deceased-
Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?114819-Mini-Mafia-III-%28Concluded%29)- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270052)) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124559-The-Night-Santa-Went-Crazy)) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) Queen of Clubs
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?108584-The-Full-Monty-Simpsons-Mafia-%28Concluded%29)) 8 of Hearts
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?123875-Resident-Evil-Dark-Falls-Game-thread)) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded)) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=333982)) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
BEGIN DAY TWO.
Items to be posted immediately.
Askthepizzaguy
04-22-2011, 06:55
Vote now on the following items:
Jerry Seinfeld's PUFFY SHIRT (10% Bulletproof item)
Blitzen's TRAITOROUS ELF (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% INVESTIGATORY)
The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item)
Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item)
El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item)
Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item)
Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item)
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 07:15
Nooooo!! dirty innocent chaotic´s killing Itchy after finding two of them!!! Nooooo!!! It was Scratchy who found them!!! (Itchy and Scratchy butchering each other with ugly black bat wings attached to their backs.)
So Seon WAS one of the enemy. In that case so is Renata. I am happy to trade myself to these two scum. Thanks for showing your connection so early on!:yes: Now can someone please revive me so we can hunt down the rest of the "Chaotics"?
Askthepizzaguy
04-22-2011, 08:22
I mistakenly overlooked an order among the many many dozen in my box. Please check the writeup for changes.
EDIT: Captain Blackadder hereby replaces Double A.
EDIT: All N1 Results have been sent out, I believe. Missing results? Contact me!
Ironside
04-22-2011, 09:39
I thought having a passive hidden self defense talent was a bit pointless, since you'll probably never see that you have it.
I was wrong. So count me lucky this far (that's by ATPG:s account, so no random 0% test attack) and for atleast freaking 6 attacks this night.
For that, I'm going to request that people are kind enough to leave 1 retaliation item for me.
Vote: CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE for myself
Captain Blackadder
04-22-2011, 09:41
Wow that is lucky that the OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE killed one of the scum
Good to be back . To make up for my horrible lynching on day one I think I should get my former selfs puffy shirt
Vote Blackadder Puffyshirt
Askthepizzaguy
04-22-2011, 09:58
Max wager today is 20 credits, btw, in case it wasn't clear from teh game rules.
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 09:59
Dont forget your bets.Id put my money on Renata. Nice touch trying double bluff on me, but bad luck with Seon dying.
a completely inoffensive name
04-22-2011, 11:13
Wait, so let me get this straight. We already killed a mafia by day 2, because of a retribution kill? Are these retribution abilities like landmines for the mafia, if they try to kill the wrong person, they will be unlucky enough to be killed in the process?
Believer
04-22-2011, 11:27
Bet: 5 credits on Renata
Honey.. No.. Tell me it's not so?
Muhaha, I was right about Seon :smoking:
Bet: 5 credit on Renata, coolness does not exonerate Seon of his hideously chaotic crimes :no:
Also, why is Blackadder talking as though he had a previous incarnation in this hellish hellhole? :laugh4: Multiple personality disorder is a very common sign of... CHAOS. For safety's sake I think we should:
Vote: PUFFY SHIRT to myself
Oh...umm...I mean... You have fallen into my trap! Yeah, my ingenuous trap! All part of my plan, yes very Machiavellian, whom I murdered, by the way.
Yeah. Well, as an objective dead who really, REALLY doesn't care whether or not you all live or die, you should TOTALLY try and murder Renata because she's totally my scumMcscum pal, pal who would vote on capt. Blackadder to save my life on day 1, thus clearly manifesting a theoretical link between me and her. Yup, no strings attached. Totally not my diabolical scheme to kill Renata from beyond the grave when I get killed before D4. Yup, definitely not.
Wow, I was right with B_Ray all along.
I vote:TRAITOROUS ELF for Beskar so I can assist in finding the evilz and I vote: OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE for Beskar to dissuade any mafia for killing me for gaining an investigation ability!
Going to add a Vote: PUFFY SHIRT for Beskar because an extra 10% survivial chance would be handy as well.
Do items stack, Pizza?
ArpeggiateTHIS
04-22-2011, 13:21
Hey Beskie ~:wave:. Heads up: you'll want to make those item votes blue.
And I suppose while I'm here:
Vote: ANIMATOR for myself
Vote: CARTOON HAMMER for myself
Vote: OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE for myself
Vote: CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE for myself
As far as I know, items stack onto each other. 40% chance of retaliation? Come at me, bro!
And Bet 1 credit: Subotan.
Greyblades
04-22-2011, 13:29
Vote: CARTOON HAMMER for myself.
Death is yonder
04-22-2011, 13:35
Wow, I was right with B_Ray all along.
Hmm? You were right that he, for the purposes of this game, was a townie? So you voted for him in round 1 while predicting he was a townie?
I was semi expecting a "wow I was right with Seon all along" instead :tongue:
Anyway,
Vote: Animator to DiY if only to provide some comfort that I won't be killed super early for the third game in a row.
And also Bet: 3 Credits on Byzantine Knight, quotation reasons spoilered to avoid a longer post.
No need to fear, ByzantineKnight is here and as we all know I'm never mafia ^_^
Bet: 5 credits on Chaotix, I think Seon is on to something.
And welcome to the .Org all you new players!
It seems I misread my PM, I did not remember it mentioning that Anti-Mafia were chaotic alignment. Upon a quick re-read I found my mistake. Fold; Bet 2 on Renata for saying "What?" in a way that offended me deeply.
Odd reasoning followed by an odd backdown. A quick re-read shows that he had a post in thread about an hour before his bet post, which clearly shows his reasoning of Renata "saying 'what' in a way that offended me deeply" to be a silly and hasty back down.
Seon's 10 cred bet on him was interesting, but since he was being wishy washy with it I didn't think it was that significant in being factored in here
On Renata, I'm more inclined to believe that she wouldn't be so silly as to link herself so early with a scum buddy, and Seon post-death responses looks like he's just trying to fuel the fire deliberately.
Since the Anti-Mafia faction force [win] by simply having more credits overall, I'm disinclined to pursue the Renata case, especially since it looks to me like Seon is capitalizing on Kage's posts to incite people to post a larger bet on her.
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 13:38
Why I... What?!
WHY YOU KILL ME!?
But also:
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA :devil: I :smash: you!!
EDIT: Hey you up there, Death is Yonder, you do know I'm dead and I killed a mafia... right? :juggle2:
On a side note I have now edited this post 4 times because of awful triggerhappyposting (yes, that is one word) and I am honored to be a Night 1 kill. Even if Random.org decided my fate ^_^
Cleric! Rez Plzz!!
ATPG the killer rabbit is a vig kill item that only has 10% of success, right?
Vote: Jolt Killer Rabbit
Vote: Jolt Traitorous Elf
Vote: Jolt Animator
Vote: Jolt Cartoon Mallet
Vote: Jolt Virus Sample
Vote: Jolt Custom Desert Eagle
Bet: 4 credits on acin
Yeah. Your questions are scummy.
Now. To do what everyone else will do... and vote every item to myself. Well, ain't this a smart system. :wacko:
Vote: Killer Rabbit to myself
Vote: Traitorous Elf to myself
Vote: Animator to myself
Vote: Cartoon Mallet to myself
Vote: Virus Sample to myself
Vote: Custom Desert Eagle to myself
Vote: Puffy Shirt to myself
Also Bet 1 credit: Beskar because voting items for yourself is scummy!
or is it time to bandwagon? fold; Bet 1 Credit: Renata ?
I think it is time for talking. :yes:
Hmm? You were right that he, for the purposes of this game, was a townie? So you voted for him in round 1 while predicting he was a townie?
No, I was right that he was evil, because only evil people would steal Beefy187's avatar.
Death is yonder
04-22-2011, 14:37
EDIT: Hey you up there, Death is Yonder, you do know I'm dead and I killed a mafia... right? :juggle2:
Oops :tongue:
I tend to skim really quickly, didn't even realize that you were El Gigante, just saw that El Gigante killed Seon and was content with that snippet of information before moving on.
Fold;
Bet 1 Credit: Psychonaut
Greed is baaad
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 15:02
Hmm? You were right that he, for the purposes of this game, was a townie? So you voted for him in round 1 while predicting he was a townie?
I was semi expecting a "wow I was right with Seon all along" instead :tongue:
Anyway,
Vote: Animator to DiY if only to provide some comfort that I won't be killed super early for the third game in a row.
And also Bet: 3 Credits on Byzantine Knight, quotation reasons spoilered to avoid a longer post.
Odd reasoning followed by an odd backdown. A quick re-read shows that he had a post in thread about an hour before his bet post, which clearly shows his reasoning of Renata "saying 'what' in a way that offended me deeply" to be a silly and hasty back down.
Seon's 10 cred bet on him was interesting, but since he was being wishy washy with it I didn't think it was that significant in being factored in here
On Renata, I'm more inclined to believe that she wouldn't be so silly as to link herself so early with a scum buddy, and Seon post-death responses looks like he's just trying to fuel the fire deliberately.
Since the Anti-Mafia faction force [win] by simply having more credits overall, I'm disinclined to pursue the Renata case, especially since it looks to me like Seon is capitalizing on Kage's posts to incite people to post a larger bet on her.
There is only two options for Seon to react towards accusations against Renata . I suggest for people to put small bets on Renata and if someone decides to mess up those bets, it will only mean the person has agenda of sorts. Lets dont overthink.It is a simple process of elimination. Scattering bets to all directions makes it easier for people to hide amongst the bets.
About the items, I really don't think we should pick the easy route and VOTE EVERY FRICKIN' THING FOR MYSELFZ - it would be only too easy for someone chaotic to get lots of free loot and/or hide themselves amongst the mob of people trying to get free loot. Can't we at least try to limit ourselves to one or two items each? You know, for the good of the evil people and stuff :embarassed:
Death is yonder
04-22-2011, 15:18
There is only two options for Seon to react towards accusations against Renata . I suggest for people to put small bets on Renata and if someone decides to mess up those bets, it will only mean the person has agenda of sorts. Lets dont overthink.It is a simple process of elimination. Scattering bets to all directions makes it easier for people to hide amongst the bets.
Likewise, concentrating bets on Renata allows people to hop on semi-freely, but I guess that point is debatable :s
Anyway, the phase is probably 48 hours long (judging by the previous day phase), I guess I'll see what Renata has to say and retain my wager first.
Can't we at least try to limit ourselves to one or two items each?
:yes:
classical_hero
04-22-2011, 15:33
Not a good night for my faction. :( Hopefully it was my kill that got the retaliation on the attacker.
landlubber
04-22-2011, 15:33
Vote: Killer Rabbit to myself.
There is only two options for Seon to react towards accusations against Renata . I suggest for people to put small bets on Renata and if someone decides to mess up those bets, it will only mean the person has agenda of sorts. Lets dont overthink.It is a simple process of elimination. Scattering bets to all directions makes it easier for people to hide amongst the bets.
Listen to Kage's voice, the voice of reason people.
I mean, come on, do you really think that I would be the one to trick you with things like...Reverse Psychology?
I mean, seriously now.
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 15:48
Listen to Kage's voice, the voice of reason people.
I mean, come on, do you really think that I would be the one to trick you with things like...Reverse Psychology?
I mean, seriously now.
Im happy we agree. Why it would be your logic, when there is entire chaotic faction of your buddies? :P
Hey don't be like that. Everybody knows that we dead folks are maginalized, left for dead and stepped upon. We have to stick out for each other.
About the items, I really don't think we should pick the easy route and VOTE EVERY FRICKIN' THING FOR MYSELFZ - it would be only too easy for someone chaotic to get lots of free loot and/or hide themselves amongst the mob of people trying to get free loot. Can't we at least try to limit ourselves to one or two items each? You know, for the good of the evil people and stuff :embarassed:
Not really, as who ever gets the item to able to investigate will be attacked asap.
Not really, as who ever gets the item to able to investigate will be attacked asap.
Nonsense, see, if anybody gets said investigative ability, anybody with a brain will say "Oh look! A likely target!" and then protect him. And the Chaotics, if they have any brain, would also tend to avoid said target because it's likely to be protected!
See, it all makes sense! What you should do is to give the guy the prophet item, and then protect somebody else! See, no mafia would ever dare target the guy with the detective item.
No ulterior motive here. Honest. I want to help you people. If you don't do as I say, I will be turning in my grave.
Speaking of graves, would anybody mind rezzing me? Thanks.
Nonsense, see, if anybody gets said investigative ability, anybody with a brain will say "Oh look! A likely target!" and then protect him. And the Chaotics, if they have any brain, would also tend to avoid said target because it's likely to be protected!
See, it all makes sense! What you should do is to give the guy the prophet item, and then protect somebody else! See, no mafia would ever dare target the guy with the detective item.
That is false. Only if the target is protected by a connected Town Information Network, especially as you will have use up credits in order to arrange a protection on the target and people will not be willing to part with them so easily.
Plus there would be immense pressure from town (/mafia pretending to be town) on the investigator in order to attempt to discredit them and have them lynched.
That is something I can bet on with certainty.
Also: With the amount of kills last night, mafia can afford to make the town keep using up all their credits to protect some one and they can afford to keep trying to have them killed.
dcmort93
04-22-2011, 16:25
I think I'm going to have to agree with Kage's reasoning and Bet 1 credit on Renata
Also:
Vote: Killer Rabbit To myself
Vote: Animator To myself
Vote: Cartoon Mallet To myself
Vote: Virus Sample To myself
Vote: Custom Desert Eagle To myself
autolycus
04-22-2011, 16:33
Vote:Desert Eagle to myself
Bet: 2 Creds on Renata For the moment, El Gigante is the best guide I've got.
Will vote items to others for reciprocity.
Also, for whatever it means, the clubs are getting mauled.
Major Robert Dump
04-22-2011, 16:42
A lot of deaths night on 1, so either people got extremely lucky and found their hidden talents or they dropped a lot of cash on purchased vig actions.
I figured people would just start voting things to themselves. We need to start making drug deals and trading bets and item votes to get items, so if any other townies want to negotiate, I am game. PM me for negotiations.
I am curious what happens in the event of item vote ties.
I am also curious why SEON was 2 characters.
I am also curious about the cards, as so far there is no distinct pattern between dead people of the same faction.
I am also curious why SEON was 2 characters.
Seon was the games "Mafia" (as in, ones we need to kill). Plus, throw out anything he says out the window as he will only say things to distract the town.
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 16:52
A lot of deaths night on 1, so either people got extremely lucky and found their hidden talents or they dropped a lot of cash on purchased vig actions.
Most people probably tried vig actions and a few of them probably succeded. Remember, there are still anti-mafia out there (such as dcmort)
I am also curious why SEON was 2 characters.
First was his cover-role, second was his actual role.
I am also curious about the cards, as so far there is no distinct pattern between dead people of the same faction.
Me and Seon were both clubs, and his cover role was the same faction I am.
Also, lynch all hearts please. They are my least favorite suite.
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 17:02
Most people probably tried vig actions and a few of them probably succeded. Remember, there are still anti-mafia out there (such as dcmort)
First was his cover-role, second was his actual role.
Me and Seon were both clubs, and his cover role was the same faction I am.
Also, lynch all hearts please. They are my least favorite suite.
Yes some might have done a vig kill.
Diana Abnoba
04-22-2011, 17:03
Bet: 2 credits on Renata
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 17:06
Yes some might have done a vig kill.
I believe there is evil in the hearts of man. Plus most people have fun killing other people because its way more exciting than protecting other people. I bet out of all the groups taking actions last night, more tried a vig kill than more town-friendly actions such as investigation.
ATPG, knowing human nature as he does knew that he could only entrust this ability to a chosen few. Which is why there were so few kills. Also, no sign of anyone investigating... bad town...
EDIT: Also. Stop voting Renata. Let's get some other people squirming.
Diana Abnoba
04-22-2011, 17:17
PUFFY SHIRT- to myself
TRAITOROUS ELF- to ArpeggiateTHIS
ANIMATOR- to myself
CARTOON MALLET- to captain blackadder
OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE- to beskar
CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE- to DIY
KILLER RABBIT- to myself
Get voting Kage too. He is easy to read under pressure.
Fold; Bet 20: Kagemusha
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 17:21
Get voting Kage too. He is easy to read under pressure.
Fold; Bet 20: Kagemusha
Only problem is that im dead.:laugh4:
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 17:22
I believe there is evil in the hearts of man. Plus most people have fun killing other people because its way more exciting than protecting other people. I bet out of all the groups taking actions last night, more tried a vig kill than more town-friendly actions such as investigation.
Have you taken a good look at your own heart?As one should know his own heart, before talking about the hearts of others.
dcmort93
04-22-2011, 17:22
Most people probably tried vig actions and a few of them probably succeded. Remember, there are still anti-mafia out there (such as dcmort)
Care to explain why you are trying to draw attention to me?
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 17:31
Have you taken a good look at your own heart?As one should know his own heart, before talking about the hearts of others.
Of course, I most certainly did not try and vig kill. Besides, I'm a good stout club the hearts are the evil scumbags. By which I mean anti-evil
Bow-wow-wow
04-22-2011, 17:43
Bet: 2 credits on Renata
I would also love to vote all the items to myself but it seems like everybody will do that. I really want to be carful to not vote anything to one of my enemies though.
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 17:45
Of course, I most certainly did not try and vig kill. Besides, I'm a good stout club the hearts are the evil scumbags. By which I mean anti-evil
Just wondering because it was a huge towering figure that killed me.~;) So you are calling me anti-evil? Nope.I am as evil as it gets. :P
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 17:46
Bet: 2 credits on Renata
BAD Bow-wow-wow. Spread the votes a little. I don't care if you lynch her but see if you can get other people flinching. The more people we have sweating it out near the end of the round the more information we have late game to analyze.
Don't listen to Byzantine knight! He's a dangerous lunatic!
Bow-wow-wow
04-22-2011, 17:55
•Jerry Seinfeld's PUFFY SHIRT (10% Bulletproof item) to Slin28
•Blitzen's TRAITOROUS ELF (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% INVESTIGATORY) to myself
•The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item) to Death is Yonder
•Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item) to Grayblades
•El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Beskar
•Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
•Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item) to Jolt
So I all the items to different people. If you could repay the favour, vote that item that I voted for myself and then we can all (or the 7 people I voted for) get an item.
Don't get too greedy there, vote that one item to me please.
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 17:56
Just wondering because it was a huge towering figure that killed me.~;) So you are calling me anti-evil? Nope.I am as evil as it gets. :P
The important thing to note in that kill is the type of combat the massive figure used. A giant fireball is not exactly my forte, if you read my death you can see I am not only incredibly stupid but also totally reliant on physical attacks such as punching and crushing. Magiks don't work if you're too dumb to notice the difference between a friend shouting and an assassin shooting you ;)
If you really must know I investigated a scummy scum. Not that I was able to complete my actions due to my untimely death...
EDIT:
And of course you're Evil... It said so when you died...
Don't listen to Byzantine knight! He's a dangerous lunatic!
You're just mad cuz I weigh more than you :laugh4:
Kagemusha
04-22-2011, 17:57
The important thing to note in that kill is the type of combat the massive figure used. A giant fireball is not exactly my forte, if you read my death you can see I am not only incredibly stupid but also totally reliant on physical attacks such as punching and crushing. Magiks don't work if you're too dumb to notice the difference between a friend shouting and an assassin shooting you ;)
If you really must know I investigated a scummy scum. Not that I was able to complete my actions due to my untimely death...
EDIT:
You're just mad cuz I weigh more than you :laugh4:
But im two instead of one, so double the fun. Not that i was accusing you off anything. ;)
Bow-wow-wow
04-22-2011, 17:58
BAD Bow-wow-wow. Spread the votes a little. I don't care if you lynch her but see if you can get other people flinching. The more people we have sweating it out near the end of the round the more information we have late game to analyze.
Yeah but I'm voting for the person I think it is. I'm not going to go around voting for completely random people to get them scared. At the end of the day, one person gets lynched and I want that to be the person who I think is mafia, or anti-mafia I guess. (the evil ones or I guess the chaotic ones)
Basically the bad guys. :dizzy2::dizzy2::dizzy2::dizzy2:
•Jerry Seinfeld's PUFFY SHIRT (10% Bulletproof item) to Slin28
•Blitzen's TRAITOROUS ELF (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% INVESTIGATORY) to myself
•The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item) to Death is Yonder
•Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item) to Grayblades
•El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Beskar
•Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
•Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item) to Jolt
So I all the items to different people. If you could repay the favour, vote that item that I voted for myself and then we can all (or the 7 people I voted for) get an item.
Don't get too greedy there, vote that one item to me please.
Me likey this plan: Vote TRAITOROUS ELF to Bow-wow-wow
You may want to bold your votes by the way!
Failed to understand a key part of the plan... *facepalm*
Vote: The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item) to Death is Yonder
Vote: Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item) to Grayblades
Vote: Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Beskar
Vote: Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
Vote: Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item) to Jolt
Edit: Removed the votes for myself + bow-wow-wow, as they are already posted.
ByzantineKnight
04-22-2011, 18:08
But im two instead of one, so double the fun. Not that i was accusing you off anything. ;)
Of course not ;) But when have I ever (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131243-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Concluded&p=2053233338&highlight=#post2053233338) advocated vig killing? Every game I have ever been a part of I have been against it. Why would I change my mind now?
Plus,
You were Richard Baeur. But Umbrella men have done.... bad things. Terrible things. Now you here only cause pain, death, destruction. You want revenge. You find bad Umbrella men, you make them go crush. Squeeze out guts, mash in head, pull off legs.
You hate hear men talking. When group of people talk, it makes your head go mad. You make them all go away. Your ears are so strong... you hear insect clear across town. You must make noises stop. Make them all go squish. Make bad men go away. Make guts splat. If you last one standing, you did good. You make all bad men go away. If Umbrella men die, you do even better. More talky man you crush, better your score. Make head hurt less.
I make people go squishy by :smash: them :2thumbsup:
VOTE: ANIMATOR to Chaotix
VOTE: KILLER RABBIT to Chaotix
Bet: 2 credits on Renata
Anyone want to make a deal with the devil?
Currently away from my lappy atm, so:
Vote: ANIMATOR for arpTHIS
Vote: CARTOON HAMMER for arpTHIS
Vote: OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE for arpTHIS
Vote: CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE for arpTHIS
Also, 20 Credits on YLC
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