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Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 16:56
Gemma, do u have reads aorn?
Vote: nebjiamn
2/5 nice
Grr is tiny SL rn, but his alignment is probs obvious by eod
I’m not vibing with wisdom’s posts at all yet, but wanna see if that’s just dif perspective or if its indicative of alignment stuff.
Arctic is odd. His posts kinda sound like voice notes turned into text. Idk what that means, maybe town?
Gemma town, ender town, insomnia town
why gemma? I vaguely agree with the other 2.on the same line.
For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great but meant nothing to me.
It is the minimum hurdle of competence as either alignment.
Gemma, do u have reads aorn?
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sup
nothing spicy hbu
For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great
wow and here i was trying to so hard to sound wooden
Not all that cobalt specific tbh.
Villagers are more off the cuff and more likely to underexplain while wolves are ready to (over)explain and their pushes are more calculated.
Saying less leaves you open for scrutiny.
And I don't think Cobalt as a wolf wants to get bad heat early (which is where the read gets back to being somewhat cobalt-specific).
His biggest weakness is not getting a foot in the door of the village from my limited (and outdated) pov which can result in flaking.
Once he gets a grip on the game/state he has an easier time staying within the group.
Yes, I like seeing people post about my meta because it makes me feel noticed and important.
Carry on.
Newcomb is my top villa read
Should be a fun game :curtain:
I am more or less at this
Sheep posts wrt knights pinged me a bit about wanting it TOO much, like in some places it seemed like it started from the assumption
E.g. i think dya opening is neutral--> knkghts pushing it is wolfy
Idk i find the confidence and reasoning of his knights read a bit backwards (starts frkm knights wolf and thrn justifies it)
But (here comes the hedge eheh) when i used to play woth sheep like 3-4 years ago i mislunched them a bunch so ya
Surprised knigts has no read on sheep push on them tbh
it's a little ego-y but I think i'm gonna townread ladd for this; I think the threadstate thing I posted before going to bed is one of those things that only crystalizes with a certain amount of experience and especially its relevance only really sticks out if you're thinking about the game in a certain way. Not that that way is explicitly good or the right way to play or anything, i'm really contorting my arm to avoid patting myself on the back here. But basically like, thinking about the game in terms of overall mafia archtypes and what kind of game it feels like compared to the breadth of your mafia experience, that is something it makes sense for ladd to recognize and then vibe with.
And in running the mental cross check for pocketing and TMI I don't like... exclude it categorically but it definitely feels more in the goldilocks zone than not.
I also think if that's actually a pocket w!ladd attempt I'm not sure he could resist a subtle prop or jab at the accuracy of the "0-1 wolves" thing? That's maybe stretching the mental map of ladd a bit too far to be comfortable. Feels right though.
cobalt's meta is
but ymmv
jk
his line of questioning towards you just looks really pure from a solving standpoint / mindset
he has a couple posts like that
which seems like regular degular town newcomb to me
now this I don't like as much
the second line feels like something you just throw in to add the appearance of depth without there being any real consideration
As I'm typing this though I'm recognizing that there's perhaps a bit of "townreading someone who townreads you is such a goober thing to do off the bat" that i'm reflexively doing the opposite to prove to myself i'm not a chump
gonna let this one marinate
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 17:10
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sup
nothing spicy hbu
Damn u lazy patate. Just pings on the knight and sheep but rn i cant remember why smh. I wouldnt be surprised if the one TRing Benneh flips wolf though. Think I have asked about it, will prolly cast a vote once I sober up a bit. Syns post is OK (lmao this read), will reevaluate when he gets up. Ender is OK for D1 on tone only.
Grrr looks a bit odd to me rn, not sure what he saw on Newcomb (but this vote got my attention, curious about any follow up).
Pretty much it
part of me wants to inform newcomb ive played like 2 games in the last year or two and will be absolutely zero help with translating for people
other part of me wants to just fake it so i can vibe with newcomb for a bit
i'm cool with it
Who is Sett?
you can just make something up and i'll never know until I get hella confused on D3
it's a little ego-y but I think i'm gonna townread ladd for this; I think the threadstate thing I posted before going to bed is one of those things that only crystalizes with a certain amount of experience and especially its relevance only really sticks out if you're thinking about the game in a certain way. Not that that way is explicitly good or the right way to play or anything, i'm really contorting my arm to avoid patting myself on the back here. But basically like, thinking about the game in terms of overall mafia archtypes and what kind of game it feels like compared to the breadth of your mafia experience, that is something it makes sense for ladd to recognize and then vibe with.
And in running the mental cross check for pocketing and TMI I don't like... exclude it categorically but it definitely feels more in the goldilocks zone than not.
I also think if that's actually a pocket w!ladd attempt I'm not sure he could resist a subtle prop or jab at the accuracy of the "0-1 wolves" thing? That's maybe stretching the mental map of ladd a bit too far to be comfortable. Feels right though.
My problem with it that I agree that you can have the feeling of "the thread is villagery right now" during a somewhat limited timeframe.
Appyling this to 14/22 people when nobody has more than 10 posts is why it felt weird and fake to me reading it afterwards.
Based on the first 6 words of each paragraph, this is probably a wolf
I will not be taking questions at this time
I fucking hate that I like this
My problem with it that I agree that you can have the feeling of "the thread is villagery right now" during a somewhat limited timeframe.
Appyling this to 14/22 people when nobody has more than 10 posts is why it felt weird and fake to me reading it afterwards.
Had 14 people really posted when I went to bed? I thought it was like 8. If that's true i'm probably wrong just on sheer odds.
i'm really contorting my arm to avoid patting myself on the back here
https://media.tenor.com/YqpRlAhh6JUAAAAM/katharine-hepburn-laughing.gif
Had 14 people really posted when I went to bed? I thought it was like 8. If that's true i'm probably wrong just on sheer odds.
I went back and did a headcount so yes.
dyachei
Didistetter
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Sunbae
Ladd
Gemma
insomnia
Syn
ColonelLubriderm
Newcomb
Theknightsofneeee
C0balt
sheepsaysmeep
had posted at the time.
I don't call your take weird without doing the legwork. :P
Damn u lazy patate. Just pings on the knight and sheep but rn i cant remember why smh. I wouldnt be surprised if the one TRing Benneh flips wolf though. Think I have asked about it, will prolly cast a vote once I sober up a bit. Syns post is OK (lmao this read), will reevaluate when he gets up. Ender is OK for D1 on tone only.
Grrr looks a bit odd to me rn, not sure what he saw on Newcomb (but this vote got my attention, curious about any follow up).
Pretty much it
i page 1 v read sheep for posting a bunch of nonsense
wym benneh tr
I went back and did a headcount so yes.
dyachei
Didistetter
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Sunbae
Ladd
Gemma
insomnia
Syn
ColonelLubriderm
Newcomb
Theknightsofneeee
C0balt
sheepsaysmeep
had posted at the time.
I don't call your take weird without doing the legwork. :P
Respect the effort, I'm way too lazy these days to check you.
Vanta black and Syn are the two names that stick out on that list as like "no fucking way", like yeah I believe you but it must have been literally a 1-sentence popin. And what gemma's doing is not actually posting.
Felt like less, is my point
Respect the effort, I'm way too lazy these days to check you.
Vanta black and Syn are the two names that stick out on that list as like "no fucking way", like yeah I believe you but it must have been literally a 1-sentence popin. And what gemma's doing is not actually posting.
Felt like less, is my point
It just takes 20 seconds of crossing names on a list and the amount of early cred you get from it gives you more time to nap later!
what gemma's doing is not actually posting.
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i guess another thing i feel like bringing up is that newcomb feels too chummy to me. but it's a bad thing to say cuz it opens up for interpretation and also if he's villa i don't want him to think he needs to play some sort of way (ofc he wouldn't / shouldn't even warp his posting just to not be wolfread by me or anyone), but it definitely caught my eye. didn't wanna say anything cuz i reckon it's easier to tell with him once he just doesn't pound wolves with logic that opens up your third eye or something
why'd you say it at all then?
don't throw rocks and hide your hands now
say it with your chest
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 17:33
i page 1 v read sheep for posting a bunch of nonsense
wym benneh tr
I mean someone ended him a TR that felt leaking TMI. Will check l8r once on comp and I run out of cocktails (not rn lmao)
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 17:33
I mean someone ended him a TR that felt leaking TMI. Will check l8r once on comp and I run out of cocktails (not rn lmao)
Handed. God phonetic spelling
Sunbae/jan/newcomb seems like a fun d1 masonry
Sunbae/jan/newcomb seems like a fun d1 masonry
poor benneh
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 17:44
ColonelLubriderm
could you go into these a bit more?
what about c0balt do you have as towny?
ik you acknowledge the sheep thing is just agreeing with what others said, but can you explain why it pinged *you* ?
b/c frankly, i think its a really awkward point of attack and think it was more natural than other early TRs on me. wolves aren't srsly gonna "lockclear" a town post 1, espec a town they probs don't want to waste an nk on. think the reasoning others have expressed is pretty weak here, so i'd like to hear yours.
I read it completely opposite of you and found his the least natural. You say he wasnt seriously lock clearing you but he literally said in the same post he wasnt joking and the following post he resaid he had one confirmed town(sure they may have been being hyperbolic in the confidence but the read i believe is real). To me it read like a wolf sheeping a read on someone they felt was(or was going to be) threadspewed villa.
During my readthrough this morning that was what i was thinking and i agreed with cobalt when he said that he didnt like sheeps post which in turn made me kind of like cobalt.
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 17:46
so i was thinking when this game started that i was just gonna shitpost and sheep jan and hope he rolled villa.
This might be the way
I really should stop playing on phone why am I like this.
Apparently all but Monte has posted but it feels like I missed half the playerlist.
The way Ender solves through relaxing and vibing is something that I associate with his town game.
On the other side, Cobalt seems a bit stiff and forced. For some reason his post on this page, about him liking people talking about him, wasn't in his ISO (I'm going insane). It felt real though.
Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.
I'm a bit worried about Syn's approach to the game but I think his "threadstate is pure" post shows a towny mindset. Raskolnikov I think you know why I'm worried, can you explain why you instantly locked him town?
Newcomb/Ladd is unlikely w/w and I feel like I agree with everything they say even when I don't. So, hopefully both are town and shouldn't be too hard to find them if they're alive wolves in later game.
Jan is still town. Retracting town leans on Sheep and Stett for the time being.
Unvote
insomnia
08-06-2024, 17:49
why'd you say it at all then?
don't throw rocks and hide your hands now
say it with your chest
when sunbae says something that you spotted, you can't help but agree with him. otherwise i would've waited more :P
i can type out in a lot more detail what i thought was wolfy about you, but until im not sure, i probably won't
insomnia's post has me feeling things
idk how to describe it but basically this first happened after i read sunbae's post about newcomb and knights and i started formulating a weird kind of net of associations around cobalt/knights/sheep and realizing that if i'm wrong on sheep then he's probably town and one of the other two is more likely to have a wolf and like even though i lean on it being sheep i don't think the other worlds are that unlikely so they're kinda just existing in my mind as alternate options
this ties into insomnia's post cuz it's like. suggesting the alternate reality to the one i think is most likely. but i still townread it. it feels like he's having reasonable thoughts on those posts but i just disagree on which is the most likely world, but not enough for me to care about the fact we disagree. cuz, i mean y'all probably won't believe me but in my catch up post i originally had the same thought about how c0balt may have inadvertently been TMI'ing stett by accusing sheep of doing that because while i agree with the sheep sus that being the reason feels like more of a wolf accusation. soz this sounds hella hedgy but the point i want to convey is that i townread insomnia's post even though i had different takeaways cuz i can kinda see those options if i'm wrong, so having those thoughts is just as easily town indicative
the part about dya was super towny regardless
this post was so bad but im sending it anyway lmao
also hi IH :3
good lord
Okay you're not the only one doing it i'm not talking to just you here, and high chance I come off as old man yelling at clouds, but goddamn some of you need to activate the editor brain and not just the writer brain.
I'm all for stream of consciousness and i'm a big advocate that making your thoughts clear and your process transparent is a great thing to do in mafia games, but good lord.
Some of y'all are giving multiple paragraphs to thoughts that are really not complex enough to warrant it
again, to be clear, not talking directly to you, there are a couple lyrical miracle posters ITT.
so i was thinking when this game started that i was just gonna shitpost and sheep jan and hope he rolled villa.
This might be the way
Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.
I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.
My life is pain and misery.
(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)
I read it completely opposite of you and found his the least natural. You say he wasnt seriously lock clearing you but he literally said in the same post he wasnt joking and the following post he resaid he had one confirmed town(sure they may have been being hyperbolic in the confidence but the read i believe is real). To me it read like a wolf sheeping a read on someone they felt was(or was going to be) threadspewed villa.
During my readthrough this morning that was what i was thinking and i agreed with cobalt when he said that he didnt like sheeps post which in turn made me kind of like cobalt.
Villagery post
I dont really get the hate on wisdom tbh, they seem to be posting like normal wisdom afaict
Sunbae post wrt knights/newcomb is 1) villagery and 2) i doubt he shades newcomb after newcomb basically gave him green light to pocket them. Alas sunbae is probabky a villager
Jan seems like his obvious villager self
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 17:57
Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.
I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.
My life is pain and misery.
(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)
archmage ice nova is the way
Oh yeah this is town thought I will fight anyone who disagrees.
is sheep actually the most contentious overall read ITT right now?
that is interesting not in italics
Villagery post
I dont really get the hate on wisdom tbh, they seem to be posting like normal wisdom afaict
Sunbae post wrt knights/newcomb is 1) villagery and 2) i doubt he shades newcomb after newcomb basically gave him green light to pocket them. Alas sunbae is probabky a villager
Jan seems like his obvious villager self
I gift you a dayvig that expires in 1 minute
shot?
Gods I vibe with Newcomb so hard I need someone to call out unreadable walls in every game!
i think jan is just town. he's vibing this game, feels like
he also hasnt posted a bunch of gifs yet
I gift you a dayvig that expires in 1 minute
shot?
i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring
but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep
i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring
but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep
knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.
Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do
(to be clear i am not convinced syn is a wolf as of this post)
i villa read sunbae/colonel(bop)/newcomb/jan/stetter pretty confidently
then i have a bunch of people who i have no strong reads on (some i admit i have just skimmed over their posts and will read them later)
then sheep/knights imo has 1 exactly 1 wolf
while i get why rask villa reads syn, i thought this post:
everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep
not to be confused with sheep
was out of character for their villa self, but I am not sure how serious it is
this benneh post:
i agree, but i think i can explain it, ymmv. i think it was cause it was an odd segue onto a topic that was somewhat ... irrelevant anyway? like the idea that it was something of inherent value that sheep/knights didn't pick up on and point out is the wolfy part to me, because why did they have to think that was the case? what value or interest is gleaned from either of those players just taking stett's post as off the cuff. it seemed like a bunch of casual shade thrown onto ppl for making gut reads/leans which is the wolfy part to me
my only guess was the timing of stett's post could have made wisdom think this, but reading it in 'real-time' that wasn't something that occurred to me cause it was a pretty ~whatever post beyond being tonally towny and i didnt think much of anyone else reading into that post either
reminded me of some benneh posts from last game here (where he was a wolf). I cba to double check cause it's d1 and my interest in lunching him today is extremely limited but thats the vibe i got
i'd bet ~everything vanta gets killed by village regardless of alignment
knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.
Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do
yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion
benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol
idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of
I must have genuinely read exactly the wrong newcomb games in the past if that is true. I found them all very inspiring from d1 on. (At least in theory, in practice I still remained myself after consuming them for some reason).
I've been rolling that parenthetical around in my head for at least one actual minute and yeah i've got nothing
if only to satisfy my morbid curiosity - explain?
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:28
And I don't think Cobalt as a wolf wants to get bad heat early (which is where the read gets back to being somewhat cobalt-specific).
His biggest weakness is not getting a foot in the door of the village from my limited (and outdated) pov which can result in flaking.
Once he gets a grip on the game/state he has an easier time staying within the group.
Jan see, the problem for me is i kinda associate that more with his townplay than wolfplay, which means the early eagerness here kinda feels in line with what i'd expect from w!balt
#160 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856993&viewfull=1#post2053856993) just feels hedgey to me, but intentionally so. i kinda doubt thats a post either v!cobalt or w!cobalt would anticipate getting heat for, so idrk if i buy your analysis, but. i'll keep it in mind, ty
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:28
yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion
benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol
idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of
:wolfnod: join the wagon tbh
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:35
why gemma? I vaguely agree with the other 2.on the same line.
For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great but meant nothing to me.
It is the minimum hurdle of competence as either alignment.
Jan gemma has the vibes of a badger that got woken up by birds at 3am and is now drinking tea to cope.
translation: they have a kinda bruskness and "im too cool for this" attitude, which like, *can* be a way for maf to slank and blend, but i typically associate with villies. i also vibe with their lil micro comments like:
#138 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856971&viewfull=1#post2053856971), #266 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857099&viewfull=1#post2053857099), and how they've used basic "why" pokes.
this might seem a bit odd of a q, but: if you had to hypothetically assign one person in thread The Hermit card, who would you reckon best fits the bill?
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:38
. Retracting town leans on Sheep and Stett for the time being.
Unvote
elucidate me? your TL in the first place felt like sheeping thread, so which posts made you come to your own conclusion? Wisdom
:book2:
:wolfnod: join the wagon tbh
i generally only make 1 vote d1 and it's almost definitely gonna come in the 2nd half of the day
it's a bit of a system of self defense i have unconsciously devoleped over time lmao
yeah pretty sure stett just town. it's good because I like working with stett.
it's bad because these reads aren't really hot takes
v
Jan
Stett
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:41
C0balt weird q but:
would you say PL at all influenced your approach to sod? if not, what was your general mindset going into your thread entry?
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:43
i generally only make 1 vote d1 and it's almost definitely gonna come in the 2nd half of the day
it's a bit of a system of self defense i have unconsciously devoleped over time lmao
sad. im trying to build an army of obvitown boomer meatshields to ensure i get to endgame </3
you're obvitown enough without voting tho so, still works :P
Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.
I'm kinda squinting at this in a vaguely TWTBAW / TWTBTWTBAW way.
Like the flow as I understand it is - wisdom had an expectation on rask for "some reason" that they'd be more high energy. Also, he knew Rask didn't want to rand wolf. So the thought is, if he did rand wolf he'd counteract that perception by going harder.
Just having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around the actual thought process here. If Rask had come in high energy would that also be a townread? If so, what is the utility of the read at all? Didn't rask's first post have something about them being on vacation? That point doesn't get consideration when it directly relates to thread presence / energy?
Also the counter is super blatant - someone who really didn't want to rand wolf and then is lower energy, like idk maybe they're actually just a wolf??
Also I'm not sure I even agree rask has been low energy, especially grading on a curve
Yeah I think i'm gonnn need to see some tapdancing or something here
didistetter
08-06-2024, 18:50
yeah pretty sure stett just town. it's good because I like working with stett.
it's bad because these reads aren't really hot takes
v
Jan
Stett
ngl im p sure we haven't been v/v since hydra szn lol, so im excited if tru!!
do you have any hot takes?
this feels like a p small townlist for 10 pages deep, so i'd like to hear a bit about how you approach TRs, and what, if anything you're cautious about with townreading other "heavily" (relative to gamestate) TR slots like newcomb, sunbae, arctic
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 18:54
sup
wrt colonel being bop - there was a couple posts that bop made (the one about if being gh gets him villa read then hell ya i'm gh) which stood out way more in my mind while reading and felt like how gh 'claims' his alts. and since gh alts alot over on MU, and this is his homesite, i just kinda ran with that assumption. Completely missed the jon paul references and benneh calling you bop otherwise yeah it would have been pretty obvious.
wrt ladd wondering why i didn't give a read on sheep - i wrote out a whole couple sentence thing about sheep, and wanting to drop him in lean wolf on my reads list, but after rereading it I felt like i was reaching pretty hard and trying to force a read on someone I knew i should have a read on, but I didn't actually have a firm read on, and so I just left him off.
my thoughts were essentially I think his wolf read on me is pretty high confidence considering its a page 1 wolf read on someone who he historically isn't the best at reading, but I didn't really think the reads were wolfy so much as wrong so i didn't want to omgus him, but that he hasn't actually been villagery either.
all of which sounds hedgy and stupid so yeah i just left it off :dizzy2:
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 18:56
@ whoever asked about my benneh read (raskov I think?)
its literally just i liked how he interacted with bop
relatively low confidence but the vibes were good
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 18:58
(to be clear i am not convinced syn is a wolf as of this post)
i villa read sunbae/colonel(bop)/newcomb/jan/stetter pretty confidently
then i have a bunch of people who i have no strong reads on (some i admit i have just skimmed over their posts and will read them later)
then sheep/knights imo has 1 exactly 1 wolf
while i get why rask villa reads syn, i thought this post:
was out of character for their villa self, but I am not sure how serious it is
this benneh post:
reminded me of some benneh posts from last game here (where he was a wolf). I cba to double check cause it's d1 and my interest in lunching him today is extremely limited but thats the vibe i got
i'd bet ~everything vanta gets killed by village regardless of alignment
q: do you think wisdom was actually interested in why bob/knights/sheep (im forgetting who exactly it was now) didn't question whether that was a pre-written post?
that does not seem like something she would actually care about in that spot and i disliked the way it was framed because it came across as shade. so even if i accept maybe she just had a different thought/approach to the stett post the framing thereafter felt ruff to me
unfortunately i kinda like wisdoms other posts since then and i dont really care to go down this road a ton but c'est la vie and all since u brought it up
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 19:01
yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion
benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol
idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of
very surprised i had a TON of stuff that pinged you
the post cap/48 hr cycle is going to mess with my normal posting flow for sure but I don't think i've done much for people familiar with me to really have a strong read on me either way tbh
didistetter
08-06-2024, 19:01
sup
wrt colonel being bop - there was a couple posts that bop made (the one about if being gh gets him villa read then hell ya i'm gh) which stood out way more in my mind while reading and felt like how gh 'claims' his alts. and since gh alts alot over on MU, and this is his homesite, i just kinda ran with that assumption. Completely missed the jon paul references and benneh calling you bop otherwise yeah it would have been pretty obvious.
wrt ladd wondering why i didn't give a read on sheep - i wrote out a whole couple sentence thing about sheep, and wanting to drop him in lean wolf on my reads list, but after rereading it I felt like i was reaching pretty hard and trying to force a read on someone I knew i should have a read on, but I didn't actually have a firm read on, and so I just left him off.
my thoughts were essentially I think his wolf read on me is pretty high confidence considering its a page 1 wolf read on someone who he historically isn't the best at reading, but I didn't really think the reads were wolfy so much as wrong so i didn't want to omgus him, but that he hasn't actually been villagery either.
all of which sounds hedgy and stupid so yeah i just left it off :dizzy2:
damn u still just feel towny to me idk.
:turtle:
this is all responsive/defensive, so im curious what your thoughts are on stuff not related to you tbh
this seems like you're p caught up with thread, so has anything shifted since last night?
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 19:02
Vote: nebjiamn
2/5 nice
Grr is tiny SL rn, but his alignment is probs obvious by eod
I’m not vibing with wisdom’s posts at all yet, but wanna see if that’s just dif perspective or if its indicative of alignment stuff.
Arctic is odd. His posts kinda sound like voice notes turned into text. Idk what that means, maybe town?
Gemma town, ender town, insomnia town
can u expand on the IH read. he seems like, an ~easy town find here tbh
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 19:05
damn stett's found the best org emojis already. she's a natural ORGAH
q: do you think wisdom was actually interested in why bob/knights/sheep (im forgetting who exactly it was now) didn't question whether that was a pre-written post?
that does not seem like something she would actually care about in that spot and i disliked the way it was framed because it came across as shade. so even if i accept maybe she just had a different thought/approach to the stett post the framing thereafter felt ruff to me
unfortunately i kinda like wisdoms other posts since then and i dont really care to go down this road a ton but c'est la vie and all since u brought it up
Id say thats something wisdom could care about as a villager ya
They make weird reads fairly often as a villager and i didnt really think that post from them was wolfy
Idr have them as lock clear or anything bit thry have seemed mostly the same as all the times they have been villa here
Knights
Yea, mostly small stuff but its a bunch of things. For transparency here is the list!
- not giving a read on sheep push on you
- villareading benneh for 4 posts about cats (with the same strength as bop who was objectively more villagery imho)
- syn read felt a bit weird cause i dont feel bop alignment should have mattered much?
- saying newcomb had made some game related post bit not reading them and instead going to sleep. This 1 is a bit silly but as a villager idt i could have helped myself from reading them lol
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 19:11
damn u still just feel towny to me idk.
:turtle:
this is all responsive/defensive, so im curious what your thoughts are on stuff not related to you tbh
this seems like you're p caught up with thread, so has anything shifted since last night?
I skimmed/looked for my own name on catchup so i haven't fully processed the thread tbqh
my general thoughts are that i still feel pretty good about my earlier villa reads, i think benneh's hangup on wisdom talking about your first post feels like villa!benneh, I think sheep had a villagery post that you quoted which i need to reread and process my feelings on, i liked arctic's entrance a lot, think newcomb is significantly more villagery now, and I hate ladd's wolf read on me because it feels not very fleshed out, and like he's just wolf reading me after general thread perception on me soured and he's just trying to add more pressure, so I think of the people pushing me he is currently most likely to be a wolf.
something about enderwiggen pinged me but tbh i don't remember what it was and i've never played with them so i'll probably jsut let that go
(Also i dont have a strong read on u, as i said i dont have an "home run" wolfread atm. I am mostly just content hanging out until later part of the day and them see how i feel/who i wanna push)
i'm cool with it
Who is Sett?
you can just make something up and i'll never know until I get hella confused on D3
OH I CAN ACTUALLY HELP WITH THIS ONE
Sett is Cuthalion's alt here
One of my favs to play with
Usually has people uncertain early and then kicks it into gear in mid/late game and becomes obv villa and solves shit
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 19:13
Id say thats something wisdom could care about as a villager ya
They make weird reads fairly often as a villager and i didnt really think that post from them was wolfy
Idr have them as lock clear or anything bit thry have seemed mostly the same as all the times they have been villa here
okie dokie -- i still think that was phrased wolfily but w/e
@Knight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=98014)s
Yea, mostly small stuff but its a bunch of things. For transparency here is the list!
- not giving a read on sheep push on you
- villareading benneh for 4 posts about cats (with the same strength as bop who was objectively more villagery imho)
- syn read felt a bit weird cause i dont feel bop alignment should have mattered much?
- saying newcomb had made some game related post bit not reading them and instead going to sleep. This 1 is a bit silly but as a villager idt i could have helped myself from reading them lol
cats are a proven pocketer, as evidenced by the makaze role in anni getting all the donations for the kitty appeals.
(i think knights read on me (and others) was actually fine btw, it seemed like a vibe read and not a 'zomg hes so townie' read. im biased tho)
Insom reads villagery to me which means Insom woofing :(
OH I CAN ACTUALLY HELP WITH THIS ONE
Sett is Cuthalion's alt here
One of my favs to play with
Usually has people uncertain early and then kicks it into gear in mid/late game and becomes obv villa and solves shit
wait for real?
didi = sett = cuth?
because that actually does change things if true
wait for real?
didi = sett = cuth?
because that actually does change things if true
:curtain:
Lmao
Stett is a new player from MU (actually from 5up server iirc)
Benneh :thumbsup: agree to disagree
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 19:16
wait for real?
didi = sett = cuth?
because that actually does change things if true
no
didistetter is stett
sett is some guy who always get lunched d1 in mashes
cuth is lissa
Im going to see deadpool and wolverine
Im pretty sure I'm gonna be able to just big vibe and shitpost this game while the titans of werewolf actually solve shit for me <3
lol i'm confused as fuck
and I know the more I ask for a real answer the more i'll get trolled which is fair
I will therefore go do something else for a while :v
Titans of Werewolf is used with much love
lol i'm confused as fuck
and I know the more I ask for a real answer the more i'll get trolled which is fair
I will therefore go do something else for a while :v
Oh I'm sorry, you told me to make something up so I did. I know very little here <3
stett that's why i was bitching about it. i don't have any hot takes.
maybe it's a hot take I think ladd is v but its not a very strong take
stett that's why i was bitching about it. i don't have any hot takes.
maybe it's a hot take I think ladd is v but its not a very strong take
I think I'm at least away from null right now but Id love to hear if you think so too! and why
didistetter
08-06-2024, 19:23
lol i'm confused as fuck
and I know the more I ask for a real answer the more i'll get trolled which is fair
I will therefore go do something else for a while :v
ello o/
im stett (did i stett er)
there is a dif mafia player named sett after some league character or somethin
i've only been playing forums about a year
i am v much *not* a cuthlion alt
I think I'm at least away from null right now but Id love to hear if you think so too! and why
i dont think he'd be coming at it this hard this early if he were a wolf tbh (talking about his knights push here).
didistetter
08-06-2024, 19:25
i think benneh's hangup on wisdom talking about your first post feels like villa!benneh,
theknightsofneeee explain this out a bit pls?
didistetter
08-06-2024, 19:28
can u expand on the IH read. he seems like, an ~easy town find here tbh
nebjiamn
he feels kinda stilted and awk but not as egregiously as when i've seen him wolf. nothing feels super towny yet, so SL and let him cook.
what did you think was "easy town find" about his posting?
:boink:
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 19:29
Id say thats something wisdom could care about as a villager ya
They make weird reads fairly often as a villager and i didnt really think that post from them was wolfy
Idr have them as lock clear or anything bit thry have seemed mostly the same as all the times they have been villa here
Knights
Yea, mostly small stuff but its a bunch of things. For transparency here is the list!
- not giving a read on sheep push on you
- villareading benneh for 4 posts about cats (with the same strength as bop who was objectively more villagery imho)
- syn read felt a bit weird cause i dont feel bop alignment should have mattered much?
- saying newcomb had made some game related post bit not reading them and instead going to sleep. This 1 is a bit silly but as a villager idt i could have helped myself from reading them lol
okay lets go point by point
1) just talked about that
2) I disagree bop was more villagery, i think bop's game related stuff was pretty whatever, and my villa reads on both of them were purely tone/interaction based, and because the interactions were with each other, i put them in the same tier.
(i think benneh is more villagery now but thats besides the point.)
3) the timing of the read syn gave felt right in the thread, I remember agreeing with it as I read it and felt it was a villagery thought, but obviously if i have a villa read on bop by the time i'm putting pen to paper about the read, that will color how strong my read on syn is because I now think its a wolf read on a villager. Plus syn's read was literally just a one sentence read on page 2 or whatever, it would have never gotten more than light villa read anyways.
4) /shrug emoji/ oh well. I did actually end up reading them on my phone while in bed but they weren't worth another post and tbh i was falling asleep in my comp chair while writing the reads post so my brain was just too fried to process those.
I don't think any of these should be real sticking points in your mind tbh.
maybe the sheep one i guess, but me not giving a read on sheep is probably more villa indicative of me than anything else i've done, because i would absolutely have made something up there if I was a wolf because i knew people would expect me to have a read on sheep
insomnia
08-06-2024, 19:31
Insom reads villagery to me which means Insom woofing :(
that'sthegoodstuff.gif
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 19:35
i dont think he'd be coming at it this hard this early if he were a wolf tbh (talking about his knights push here).
i mean like a quarter of the game has called me wolfy at this point
why wouldn't he push me if he's a wolf? genuine question
i mean like a quarter of the game has called me wolfy at this point
why wouldn't he push me if he's a wolf? genuine question
it's not that he's pushing you knights. It's HOW HARD he's pushing you. And with legitimate reasons imo
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 19:39
theknightsofneeee explain this out a bit pls?
these 2 posts are what i'm talking about
i especially liked the bold
i agree, but i think i can explain it, ymmv. i think it was cause it was an odd segue onto a topic that was somewhat ... irrelevant anyway? like the idea that it was something of inherent value that sheep/knights didn't pick up on and point out is the wolfy part to me, because why did they have to think that was the case? what value or interest is gleaned from either of those players just taking stett's post as off the cuff. it seemed like a bunch of casual shade thrown onto ppl for making gut reads/leans which is the wolfy part to me
my only guess was the timing of stett's post could have made wisdom think this, but reading it in 'real-time' that wasn't something that occurred to me cause it was a pretty ~whatever post beyond being tonally towny and i didnt think much of anyone else reading into that post either
q: do you think wisdom was actually interested in why bob/knights/sheep (im forgetting who exactly it was now) didn't question whether that was a pre-written post?
that does not seem like something she would actually care about in that spot and i disliked the way it was framed because it came across as shade. so even if i accept maybe she just had a different thought/approach to the stett post the framing thereafter felt ruff to me
unfortunately i kinda like wisdoms other posts since then and i dont really care to go down this road a ton but c'est la vie and all since u brought it up
I am confused cause idt i am pushing knights hard buy maybe i am giving this impression
@theknightsofneee alrighty thx for elaborating, dont really care to go in a back and forth but your answer has been acknoweldged :thumbsup:
I am confused cause idt i am pushing knights hard buy maybe i am giving this impression
@theknightsofneee alrighty thx for elaborating, dont really care to go in a back and forth but your answer has been acknoweldged :thumbsup:
i think you care more than w!ladd about discerning his alignment and are pushing at him with questions/issues with his posts that make sense
i think you care more than w!ladd about discerning his alignment and are pushing at him with questions/issues with his posts that make sense
Thats fair enuf and true
I wasnt citizing your read, mostly jsut confused cause both yiu/knights seem to be thinking i am pushing more than i actually am
elucidate me? your TL in the first place felt like sheeping thread, so which posts made you come to your own conclusion? Wisdom
:book2:
Something bugged me about your "I promise I will avoid walls" stance, felt like a possible copout because I think that's one of the things you'd have the hardest time faking (which is part of why I thought it could have been a pre-written stance). But mostly I felt like I just got dragged into town reading you by thread vibes and that's the most common reason for me to miss wolves d1, like I also thought you could be thread spewed town before someone mentioned it but I didn't feel it and feelings > logic in my case, especially d1.
didistetter
Thats fair enuf and true
I wasnt citizing your read, mostly jsut confused cause both yiu/knights seem to be thinking i am pushing more than i actually am
i think it just stands out because it's still early d1
I've been rolling that parenthetical around in my head for at least one actual minute and yeah i've got nothing
if only to satisfy my morbid curiosity - explain?
I sometimes try to be a better town player based on the sharp reading I see in your games but then I'm in a game and think like "how do I do that thing now where i just wolfread all the wolves" and I fail to see the same stuff you have been seeing.
It's like, watching like a great guitarist on youtube and then be like "ahh so that's how" and then I take the guitar in my own hand and be back to well no idea :(. That's why i feel like it should inspire me but doesn't really in reality lol.
To be fair i might have caught one wolf once drawing a parallel to what i saw in your games but that was a unicorn experience.
insomnia
08-06-2024, 20:01
i can't believe everyone but montmorency has posted and i don't feel like voting anyone
it feels like i can only remember the content of 6 people as it is
I'm kinda squinting at this in a vaguely TWTBAW / TWTBTWTBAW way.
Like the flow as I understand it is - wisdom had an expectation on rask for "some reason" that they'd be more high energy. Also, he knew Rask didn't want to rand wolf. So the thought is, if he did rand wolf he'd counteract that perception by going harder.
Just having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around the actual thought process here. If Rask had come in high energy would that also be a townread? If so, what is the utility of the read at all? Didn't rask's first post have something about them being on vacation? That point doesn't get consideration when it directly relates to thread presence / energy?
Also the counter is super blatant - someone who really didn't want to rand wolf and then is lower energy, like idk maybe they're actually just a wolf??
Also I'm not sure I even agree rask has been low energy, especially grading on a curve
Yeah I think i'm gonnn need to see some tapdancing or something here
Yeah sorry about that I kinda went into that post wolf reading Rask then read his ISO and then started kinda town leaning him and editing stuff mid post on phone was hell.
Before this game he told me he really didn't want to rand wolf, and from that I expected him to avoid thread, which I initially thought he was doing. But then I read his ISO and his vibes was more like "I'm busy F you". My meta on him is that as wolf rask in general tends to force reads through d1, especially when he doesn't have proper time, and he's not this game, hence I concluded that he's probably just town here.
Not a lock, but a vibe.
I wouldn't say he's low energy, just low posting that I initially misread as low energy.
Does that make more sense?
Im going to see deadpool and wolverine
Im pretty sure I'm gonna be able to just big vibe and shitpost this game while the titans of werewolf actually solve shit for me <3
The way the thread reads to me you are gonna be townlocked by everyone just cuz you are kind of relaxed and funny get n1ed before you start making reads that might become a threat. So, kinda yeah, probably lol.
my agenda for d1 is to get ladd to thank one of my posts.
OH I CAN ACTUALLY HELP WITH THIS ONE
Sett is Cuthalion's alt here
One of my favs to play with
Usually has people uncertain early and then kicks it into gear in mid/late game and becomes obv villa and solves shit
Wait wait wait what
MU Cuthalion = ORG Sett but =/= MU Sett??
Also thought Newcomb was talking about Stett (Didistetter) ^^' No Sett in this game right?
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 20:13
@nebjiamn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=102428)
he feels kinda stilted and awk but not as egregiously as when i've seen him wolf. nothing feels super towny yet, so SL and let him cook.
what did you think was "easy town find" about his posting?
:boink:
i liked his tone around the newcomb vote and his logic there but also that he isn't tunneling it, just stating it as a matter of fact. i liked his intro. he's got more of a dgaf confidence to him than stiltedness iyam.
i feel like his early posting here would be more subdued or more strategic as a wolf given FTR/Turbo meta vis a vis this game's list and the dayphase length but it feels like he's just leting things fly here
breathes out of relief okay never mind I (Newcomb really) just got trolled
I feel so betrayed, I really trusted Sunbae lol
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 20:14
Wait wait wait what
MU Cuthalion = ORG Sett but =/= MU Sett??
Also thought Newcomb was talking about Stett (Didistetter) ^^' No Sett in this game right?
Sunbae you've created lore that will somehow survive for the next 3 years and morph its way through 3 other communities, thank you
Why does everyone say "Let it cook/Simmer" and "I'll leave the game to the pros"??
Fam everyone is a champ in this game, no one has over 30 posts, we need more content, throw out more half-baked reads tbh! :3 It's okay to be wrong d1!
my agenda for d1 is to get ladd to thank one of my posts.
I almost thanked this post but then it would have been too easy :curtain:
Anyway hallo, you posted around the part where i only skimmed. You gotta post in more eu worker time friendly zone to get thanks
insomnia
08-06-2024, 20:19
Or, I guess, I also just sorta did became able to see why someone would find dya's post wolfy (after looking at it again and considering insomnia could see it too).
re-reading back, i kinda have a problem with this specific part of the HOLY MOTHER OF EXPLANATIONS
and i see sheep should be here so maybe he can clarify
im thinking this is a potential TMI leak, cuz the way in which he made the argument looks as though he's changing his view of knights based on me being a villager = knights can also be one, he's kinda connecting us. but i never argued why i was viewing dya's post as bad in the beginning, so the way in which he brings me up here is a bit odd to me
the problem, tl;dr is, that im interpreting his post as saying knights could be a villa seeing what me (a villa being tmi'd) is seeing for having the same opinion, even though i never explained why i thought dya's post was wolfy
hopefully this isn't nonsense
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 20:21
my agenda for d1 is to get ladd to thank one of my posts.
here's a simple but 100% effective method that will guarantee thanks from not only ladd, but the rest of the game thread:
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.:curtain:
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 20:23
re-reading back, i kinda have a problem with this specific part of the HOLY MOTHER OF EXPLANATIONS
and i see sheep should be here so maybe he can clarify
im thinking this is a potential TMI leak, cuz the way in which he made the argument looks as though he's changing his view of knights based on me being a villager = knights can also be one, he's kinda connecting us. but i never argued why i was viewing dya's post as bad in the beginning, so the way in which he brings me up here is a bit odd to me
the problem, tl;dr is, that im interpreting his post as saying knights could be a villa seeing what me (a villa being tmi'd) is seeing for having the same opinion, even though i never explained why i thought dya's post was wolfy
hopefully this isn't nonsense
put this one back in the oven, son
To clarify I kinda liked the way insomnia is posting (like its too cringe to come from a wolf imo) I don't agree with his reads which is a bit worrying but I'm sure will fix itself.
re-reading back, i kinda have a problem with this specific part of the HOLY MOTHER OF EXPLANATIONS
and i see sheep should be here so maybe he can clarify
im thinking this is a potential TMI leak, cuz the way in which he made the argument looks as though he's changing his view of knights based on me being a villager = knights can also be one, he's kinda connecting us. but i never argued why i was viewing dya's post as bad in the beginning, so the way in which he brings me up here is a bit odd to me
the problem, tl;dr is, that im interpreting his post as saying knights could be a villa seeing what me (a villa being tmi'd) is seeing for having the same opinion, even though i never explained why i thought dya's post was wolfy
hopefully this isn't nonsense
i kinda have you as villager but i feel like you are playing like a couple of levels too deep this game
you and artic are making posts more convulted than usual
after re reading random parts i am also interested in cobalt alignment and thoughts on them
The problem I had with the sheep post was he put so much effort into explaining himself to newcomb and my own approach would be like, im just gonna write one line and expect newcomb to understand me perfectly so I had the idea he felt like, the need to try super hard to convince newcomb of something, but also I kinda liked bennehs tr on him then later on and i have no idea why sheep talked so much about his perspective there if im being real.
knights reaction to ladd feels a little bit how i'd probs react too (and in fact did in the Pokemon hydra game on MU) so it kinda vibes towny to me.
I feel like insomnia specifically TR arctic a bit too easily? For making a convoluted post? Because Arctic is like, a good wolf in my eyes? I feel like he'd have no effort writing this as a wolf?
insomnia
08-06-2024, 20:37
im only playing this way cuz i don't wanna get lunched d1, but im probably gonna vote completely different people to the ones i posted thoughts on. really they're here just for me to get villa read
felt like if i played normally, you guys would d1 me
earlier i said i could vote cobalt because of his sheep read, but it's really a lacking vote in spice levels and i also don't think he was posting egregiously or anything. i'll chill out now that you've all fell for my strat
btw im genuinely just super happy to be here and it's a once in a lifetime opportunity, becuz its like all of the players who I never get to play with on MU and I love playing with them all I have them all of here in one spot. only DoctorZeus kinda missing then it'd be perfect.
7,4
Tapyoka is the chewy stuff in bubble tea, not being able to sip them in my ice coffee was a waste of my morning
tapioca pearls in iced coffee?!?!?
ok time to read *sobbing* 6 pages
how about ironically
syn clearly not a weixin user
https://media.tenor.com/YUF4morhOVcAAAAM/peach-cat-boba-tea.gif
with great whimsy nothing is ironic <3
im only playing this way cuz i don't wanna get lunched d1, but im probably gonna vote completely different people to the ones i posted thoughts on. really they're here just for me to get villa read
felt like if i played normally, you guys would d1 me
earlier i said i could vote cobalt because of his sheep read, but it's really a lacking vote in spice levels and i also don't think he was posting egregiously or anything. i'll chill out now that you've all fell for my strat
rofl i thought u were just kinda want to make 100 times sure your reads are like good and be apologetic about everything in advance :D
TIME FOR SOME HIPFIRE TRASH READS
I usually wait with sharing reads until I vibe hard enough or have found anything AI but let's do an experiment and just throw out the first thing that comes to mind on every player. I expect this to be terrible accuracy but hey maybe something is worth pursuing.
EnderWiggin -> Yeah I think he's probably town, good vibes in thread, doesn't remind me of his wolf games and I'm quite sure I've seen a few of them.
ColonelLubriderm -> Stop not being GH, I literally can't find you until you stop not being GH because every time you post I feel like I have to focus on reminding myself that you're not GH. I noted you as non w/w with someone but I'm not gonna check who. (I like you outside of that, Bop, just stop not being GH please)
Newcomb -> Feels like he's everyone's comfort blanket this game. He's my comfort blanket at least. Probably town.
didistetter -> Opening bugged me, good vibes in rest of post, but far from the super-stett I know and love. Null.
Jan -> Obv town, we should mason
Gemma -> Hi you were in my last game here so I'm sorry I haven't paid any attention to you
nebjiamn -> Mjeh no you tunneled me last game for having you in my PoE until I you got me yeeted (Despite me being obv!town), it feels like you haven't done much AI yet tho, but you haven't really been in my solve zone yet. I got pinged by your town read on me but meh.
theknightsofneeee -> People talk about you, you talk back, you've sadly not been in my focus yet.
ladd -> Vibes like town ladd? Not sure how to describe it. His town read on me felt more real than Benneh's.
dyachei -> You had a post that I liked earlier but I can't recall what it was about. Feels a bit UTR right now.
sheepsaysmeep -> Shrug
Sunbae -> Cute traitor
C0balt -> Is either wolf or misyeet bait, don't really want to go there today.
grr -> Also a bit UTR but I'm not sure if that's just because my solve zone hasn't handled everyone yet.
Raskolnikov -> Probably town and drunk
Maple -> Does Maple ever post anything AI d1? I'm not sure I've seen it.
insomnia -> Probably the one I've played with the most here and I still can't read you.
Arctic -> Someone said you sounded like a robot. I opened your ISO, noped, and then did other stuff.
Syn -> I don't like that I sus you when you seem happy. But my meta burned me last game so I'll just trust Rask's clear on you for the moment. Maybe one day I'll see what he sees.
Vanta Black -> Can't recall what you posted, sorry about that!
Just a spoiler to out those who only read their own name and then jumped to the spoiler
Yeah sorry about that I kinda went into that post wolf reading Rask then read his ISO and then started kinda town leaning him and editing stuff mid post on phone was hell.
Before this game he told me he really didn't want to rand wolf, and from that I expected him to avoid thread, which I initially thought he was doing. But then I read his ISO and his vibes was more like "I'm busy F you". My meta on him is that as wolf rask in general tends to force reads through d1, especially when he doesn't have proper time, and he's not this game, hence I concluded that he's probably just town here.
Not a lock, but a vibe.
I wouldn't say he's low energy, just low posting that I initially misread as low energy.
Does that make more sense?
this post was probably written by a villager
The problem I had with the sheep post was he put so much effort into explaining himself to newcomb and my own approach would be like, im just gonna write one line and expect newcomb to understand me perfectly so I had the idea he felt like, the need to try super hard to convince newcomb of something, but also I kinda liked bennehs tr on him then later on and i have no idea why sheep talked so much about his perspective there if im being real.
knights reaction to ladd feels a little bit how i'd probs react too (and in fact did in the Pokemon hydra game on MU) so it kinda vibes towny to me.
I feel like insomnia specifically TR arctic a bit too easily? For making a convoluted post? Because Arctic is like, a good wolf in my eyes? I feel like he'd have no effort writing this as a wolf?
this post was probably written by a villager
"I am Superman. Who are you, gorgeous?"
This is not even a good pick-up line. Just embarrassing and nobody in their right mind likes Superman. ("Batman - the dark crusader" on the other hand was a rather enjoyable new show)
wolf
btw im genuinely just super happy to be here and it's a once in a lifetime opportunity, becuz its like all of the players who I never get to play with on MU and I love playing with them all I have them all of here in one spot. only DoctorZeus kinda missing then it'd be perfect.
Let's yeet this slot tbh
/s
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 20:45
TIME FOR SOME HIPFIRE TRASH READS
I usually wait with sharing reads until I vibe hard enough or have found anything AI but let's do an experiment and just throw out the first thing that comes to mind on every player. I expect this to be terrible accuracy but hey maybe something is worth pursuing.
EnderWiggin -> Yeah I think he's probably town, good vibes in thread, doesn't remind me of his wolf games and I'm quite sure I've seen a few of them.
ColonelLubriderm -> Stop not being GH, I literally can't find you until you stop not being GH because every time you post I feel like I have to focus on reminding myself that you're not GH. I noted you as non w/w with someone but I'm not gonna check who. (I like you outside of that, Bop, just stop not being GH please)
Newcomb -> Feels like he's everyone's comfort blanket this game. He's my comfort blanket at least. Probably town.
didistetter -> Opening bugged me, good vibes in rest of post, but far from the super-stett I know and love. Null.
Jan -> Obv town, we should mason
Gemma -> Hi you were in my last game here so I'm sorry I haven't paid any attention to you
nebjiamn -> Mjeh no you tunneled me last game for having you in my PoE until I you got me yeeted (Despite me being obv!town), it feels like you haven't done much AI yet tho, but you haven't really been in my solve zone yet. I got pinged by your town read on me but meh.
theknightsofneeee -> People talk about you, you talk back, you've sadly not been in my focus yet.
ladd -> Vibes like town ladd? Not sure how to describe it. His town read on me felt more real than Benneh's.
dyachei -> You had a post that I liked earlier but I can't recall what it was about. Feels a bit UTR right now.
sheepsaysmeep -> Shrug
Sunbae -> Cute traitor
C0balt -> Is either wolf or misyeet bait, don't really want to go there today.
grr -> Also a bit UTR but I'm not sure if that's just because my solve zone hasn't handled everyone yet.
Raskolnikov -> Probably town and drunk
Maple -> Does Maple ever post anything AI d1? I'm not sure I've seen it.
insomnia -> Probably the one I've played with the most here and I still can't read you.
Arctic -> Someone said you sounded like a robot. I opened your ISO, noped, and then did other stuff.
Syn -> I don't like that I sus you when you seem happy. But my meta burned me last game so I'll just trust Rask's clear on you for the moment. Maybe one day I'll see what he sees.
Vanta Black -> Can't recall what you posted, sorry about that!
Just a spoiler to out those who only read their own name and then jumped to the spoiler
i feel extremly called out by this spoiler
also i did not tunnel you last game, cmon. i had a bad read but i did not act as if you were the only and obvoius scum at any point. hally just played well and avoided suspicion until i didnt have other areas to visit (in my mind)
Kinda agree lol. I read 2 pages and I wanna kill the colonel and Vanta. Syn is town. Never rescind
suspiciously early read on me
Let's yeet this slot tbh
/s
I'd still be here for it it's that good :D
Newcomb isn't my comfort blanket tbh not sure why you think he is. What did he do to comfort you? lol
could u explain some of these?
im curious cuz u were the guy that caught syn immediately in the last game and their posts don't feel that different here so i wanna know what's up
and vanta's posts felt like exactly nothing
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.
I'm not understanding Gemma's reads on P1+2 so they can join the "wolfy" pile I'm building.
disagree gemma is very niceys
C0balt weird q but:
would you say PL at all influenced your approach to sod? if not, what was your general mindset going into your thread entry?
didistetter what is PL?
i feel extremly called out by this spoiler
also i did not tunnel you last game, cmon. i had a bad read but i did not act as if you were the only and obvoius scum at any point. hally just played well and avoided suspicion until i didnt have other areas to visit (in my mind)
My memory isn't great but in my head you kind of omgus'd me for not dropping you/Hally out of my PoE during most of the game (then I called w!Hally town and got yeeted so go me). I recall it as a fun day phase during the day I was yeeted though, especially due to my interactions with you, so no hard feelings regardless of if I remember it wrongly or not! I still can't read you for shiz tho, half of your post feels "not fully fleshed out Benneh w" and the other half is just "yeah that makes sense Benneh v".
christ I'm only on page 9. activate skim mode
Also, pls be patient with me because I just got off an absolutely crazy wolfgame in a tinyhunt that just ended so my brain has been a little bit scrambled
Still trying to actually settle in here and organize thoughts, will probably have more in a couple hours.
didistetter what is PL?
Player List
Just like, because i'm feeling slow today -
Didi is stett, in this game
Sett is a whole other player from MU and somewhere else
Cuth is cuth and has nothing to do with them except for sunbae trolling me
yeah?
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 20:57
Just like, because i'm feeling slow today -
Didi is stett, in this game
Sett is a whole other player from MU and somewhere else
Cuth is cuth and has nothing to do with them except for sunbae trolling me
yeah?
stett does not like being called didi but otherwise yes
Just like, because i'm feeling slow today -
Didi is stett, in this game
Sett is a whole other player from MU and somewhere else
Cuth is cuth and has nothing to do with them except for sunbae trolling me
yeah?
I think this is all accurate yes.
Just like, because i'm feeling slow today -
Didi is stett, in this game
Sett is a whole other player from MU and somewhere else
Cuth is cuth and has nothing to do with them except for sunbae trolling me
yeah?
Exactly, except I'm pretty sure Stett doesn't appreciate being called Didi.
Lol the whole squad comes when newcomb posts
Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.
?????????
good lord
Okay you're not the only one doing it i'm not talking to just you here, and high chance I come off as old man yelling at clouds, but goddamn some of you need to activate the editor brain and not just the writer brain.
I'm all for stream of consciousness and i'm a big advocate that making your thoughts clear and your process transparent is a great thing to do in mafia games, but good lord.
Some of y'all are giving multiple paragraphs to thoughts that are really not complex enough to warrant it
again, to be clear, not talking directly to you, there are a couple lyrical miracle posters ITT.
first game ever with newcomb i think and i might be in love. lock town
i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring
wtf man
didistetter
08-06-2024, 21:05
k fine grr can be town. he's being cute
PL = playlist, C0balt
benben still wolf tho :study:
wisdom just served up the myzrael/macdougall stett read special which means they're probs town
ig ill chill till maple/vanta/mont/arctic post more cause rn i tr too many people lol
:tumbleweed:
Fam everyone is a champ in this game, no one has over 30 posts, we need more content, throw out more half-baked reads tbh! :3 It's okay to be wrong d1!
take that back rn
here's a simple but 100% effective method that will guarantee thanks from not only ladd, but the rest of the game thread:
Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.:curtain:
i cannot believe someone else used this before me
My memory isn't great but in my head you kind of omgus'd me for not dropping you/Hally out of my PoE during most of the game (then I called w!Hally town and got yeeted so go me). I recall it as a fun day phase during the day I was yeeted though, especially due to my interactions with you, so no hard feelings regardless of if I remember it wrongly or not! I still can't read you for shiz tho, half of your post feels "not fully fleshed out Benneh w" and the other half is just "yeah that makes sense Benneh v".
I can't help but wonder if that is like a preemptive statement to keep benneh in PoE this time while discouraging being wolfread for it.
I also don't know why you shrug off Maples d1 posts as NAI on principle so quickly. Is that something you truely believe like can you explain what you think is gonna happen or change later on with regards to his alignment? I mean he is an avid shitposter but he made a read already so I feel like we might not be going into a unreadable-trajectory here?
town:
newcomb
maple
dyachei
gemma
idk fine i guess:
nebjiamn
didistetter
sunbae
grr
insomnia
c0balt
i can't recall a single post/no opinion:
arctic
vanta black
theknightsofneeee
why (diet version):
enderwiggin
colonellubriderm
why:
raskolnikov
wisdom
jan
sheepsaysmeep
are hally and montmorency actually playing this game or are they in the player list for the lulz
didistetter what is PL?
didistetter I don't think the PL particularly influenced how I approached SoD, no
other than me being hype to be here in general
If I were wolfing against this player list I would probably be SUPER intimidated but that is not the case so I can just relax.
I was in the middle of an EXTREMELY tense f5 as final wolf which is why I may have been a bit preoccupied.
My entrance wasn't exactly un-influenced as a result but it was not from this game or the PL at all.
Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.
I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.
My life is pain and misery.
(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)
Jan
Let's mason up, let's be these 4 seconds together:
https://youtu.be/uApthBVk7mw?si=OU-pdMh6Mcn1tvNi&t=92
That was meant to start at 1.32 stupid org
stett does not like being called didi but otherwise yes
https://y.yarn.co/6440fb6d-c463-43aa-b291-86cdafb4c87d_text.gif
also I know i've been playing fast and loose with pronouns this game; I get someone's wrong and it bothers you, feel free to prod me, I usually only need to be told once
I can't help but wonder if that is like a preemptive statement to keep benneh in PoE this time while discouraging being wolfread for it.
I also don't know why you shrug off Maples d1 posts as NAI on principle so quickly. Is that something you truely believe like can you explain what you think is gonna happen or change later on with regards to his alignment? I mean he is an avid shitposter but he made a read already so I feel like we might not be going into a unreadable-trajectory here?
It's not but I can see what you mean. It's just that I can't force read people, it's not just Benneh (I pretty much have the same approach to Insomnia). I'll get there when I get there, pretty much. It's not as much of a "I won't try to read you" as "I don't really have a read on you yet and I don't really expect me to learn how to find you in this game".
"Truly believe" depends on how literal you wanna be. I think everyone's always doing AI stuff all the time and the game is about finding and understanding that on both a micro point and a macro point. But I have never been able to read Maple early on. I caught him once but it was for the wrong reasons (I was new and thought shit posting was wolfy and he just happened to wolf), then follow up with misreading him 5+ times after that so I'm just gonna wait until there's more information to work with - He's a wolf strategist and I think that my best chances of finding him is through that mindset. He was easy to interact with earlier, but it wasn't game related, so most likely NAI.
town:
newcomb
maple
dyachei
gemma
idk fine i guess:
nebjiamn
didistetter
sunbae
grr
insomnia
c0balt
i can't recall a single post/no opinion:
arctic
vanta black
theknightsofneeee
why (diet version):
enderwiggin
colonellubriderm
why:
raskolnikov
wisdom
jan
sheepsaysmeep
are hally and montmorency actually playing this game or are they in the player list for the lulz
what a wild ass list, like not in a bad way like in breath of fresh air way
top town excluding me are 3 people who are super super periphery
ladd is straight up missing
sheep unsorted and question marked when sheep is kind of like a pivot point this game IMO
honestly I vibe with it
I don't agree with it at all but just from the way it's structured it really feels like a villager made it
want to hear more ofc but it strikes me as a tough post for a wolf to make and not seem calculated or motivated
oh shit ladd lmao they go in idk fine I guess
maybe I should hate them for wanting to shoot me though
Jan
Let's mason up, let's be these 4 seconds together:
https://youtu.be/uApthBVk7mw?si=OU-pdMh6Mcn1tvNi&t=92
looks at my poe
looks at this post
looks at my poe
looks at this post
surely it cannot be
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 21:39
im only playing this way cuz i don't wanna get lunched d1, but im probably gonna vote completely different people to the ones i posted thoughts on. really they're here just for me to get villa read
felt like if i played normally, you guys would d1 me
earlier i said i could vote cobalt because of his sheep read, but it's really a lacking vote in spice levels and i also don't think he was posting egregiously or anything. i'll chill out now that you've all fell for my strat
probably the realest feeling in the thread so far
i've got three double fudge brownies and they are so dank that they will literally melt if you keep them outside the fridge they will melt; so each day for the next three days i'm gonna take a brownie out and let it get all gooey andthen microwave it for 30 seconds, add icecream and then i'm going to take a sugar cone and put it on one of the scoops of ice cream like a dunce cap. flavor i'll be using are coffee oreo
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 21:41
@nebjamin wait til you find out montemorency is a montecore alt
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 21:42
@nebjamin wait til you find out montemorency is a montecore alt
nebjiamn
ladd congratulated 0 people for their rand btw. pretty sus iyam.
Jan see, the problem for me is i kinda associate that more with his townplay than wolfplay, which means the early eagerness here kinda feels in line with what i'd expect from w!balt
#160 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856993&viewfull=1#post2053856993) just feels hedgey to me, but intentionally so. i kinda doubt thats a post either v!cobalt or w!cobalt would anticipate getting heat for, so idrk if i buy your analysis, but. i'll keep it in mind, ty
Not a read I am married to. I very much changed the read while I made the initial post.
Jan gemma has the vibes of a badger that got woken up by birds at 3am and is now drinking tea to cope.
translation: they have a kinda bruskness and "im too cool for this" attitude, which like, *can* be a way for maf to slank and blend, but i typically associate with villies. i also vibe with their lil micro comments like:
#138 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856971&viewfull=1#post2053856971), #266 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857099&viewfull=1#post2053857099), and how they've used basic "why" pokes.
this might seem a bit odd of a q, but: if you had to hypothetically assign one person in thread The Hermit card, who would you reckon best fits the bill?
I actually love this question. loaded tbh.
I am trying to look for someone that fits
both prudence as well as corruption.
dyachei
nebjiamn
Gemma
ColonelLubriderm
Theknightsofneeee
Is what I am left with.
Hard to pick a single person tbh.
I will pick Bop! Out of all of them he can roleplay hermit the best!
Jan
Let's mason up, let's be these 4 seconds together:
https://youtu.be/uApthBVk7mw?si=OU-pdMh6Mcn1tvNi&t=92
mason goes a bit far, but we can dance and see where it leads us.
no slow dancing for now.
and please change your attire first. you spilled some brown liquid on it and I am not sure if I want to associate with that.
Tiers of citizens(not sorted within)
Tier 1
Didistetter
Newcomb
Wisdom
Tier 2
Syn
insomnia
Arctic
Tier 3
EnderWiggin
Ladd
grr
Slums
Raskolnikov
C0balt
people I should have a read on but I simply don't
dyachei
Sunbae
people I should not have a read on and I don't
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Gemma
ColonelLubriderm
Maple
Montmorency
Theknightsofneeee
sheepsaysmeep
I don't have a good wolfread right now. But I feel good about ~half of the game!
That is close to a winning poe, maybe!
Technically knights and sheep do not belong in the bottom tier.
I just don't want to read back and in my head I have both of them as gth villa that has done wolfshaped stuff.
And that normally is the tier where I am wrong on and should never made the read in the first place.
So fuck them for now.
And not reading back because lazy.
tier 3 is lame i wanna be like. tier1+ or wolfread. tier 3 is kinda like where people tolerate ur existence but kinda keep taking potshots at you and you already know you're never gonna be nightkilled and it's so cringe.
ColonelLubriderm
08-06-2024, 22:27
I will pick Bop! Out of all of them he can roleplay hermit the best!
i feel both seen and cut at the same time
wolves are usually the people you have no read on. like. they kinda sound nice and you wanna give them a townlean becuz it feels like you should but something is missing that makes you really convinced.
tier 3 is lame i wanna be like. tier1+ or wolfread. tier 3 is kinda like where people tolerate ur existence but kinda keep taking potshots at you and you already know you're never gonna be nightkilled and it's so cringe.
You are not in the slums!
You can dream of leaving your work in the mines for an underpaid desk-job one day!
You can maybe marry one of the tier 2 people if they feel lonely.
Tier 1 is not impossible but I would need to read your posts for that. Not sure if that will happen any time soon.
i feel both seen and cut at the same time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvOAwvMU8N8
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 22:39
what a wild ass list, like not in a bad way like in breath of fresh air way
top town excluding me are 3 people who are super super periphery
ladd is straight up missing
sheep unsorted and question marked when sheep is kind of like a pivot point this game IMO
honestly I vibe with it
I don't agree with it at all but just from the way it's structured it really feels like a villager made it
want to hear more ofc but it strikes me as a tough post for a wolf to make and not seem calculated or motivated
Thing being its prolly a copypasta from Benneh in wc.
Switching to comp, Wisdom I am replying to u about Syn in a few
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 22:42
tier 3 is lame i wanna be like. tier1+ or wolfread. tier 3 is kinda like where people tolerate ur existence but kinda keep taking potshots at you and you already know you're never gonna be nightkilled and it's so cringe.
Sucks to be Ladd lmao
good lord
Okay you're not the only one doing it i'm not talking to just you here, and high chance I come off as old man yelling at clouds, but goddamn some of you need to activate the editor brain and not just the writer brain.
I'm all for stream of consciousness and i'm a big advocate that making your thoughts clear and your process transparent is a great thing to do in mafia games, but good lord.
Some of y'all are giving multiple paragraphs to thoughts that are really not complex enough to warrant it
again, to be clear, not talking directly to you, there are a couple lyrical miracle posters ITT.
It might just be a me thing, but I find it easier to hide in the absurdity that is stream-of-consciousness posting. You can use a lot of words to say very little and actually seem like you're putting in effort. More or less the basis of my wolf game.
In that way, I always react poorly to meandering posts.
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 22:45
Guess IH played with IAWY :p
didistetter
08-06-2024, 22:48
wolves are usually the people you have no read on. like. they kinda sound nice and you wanna give them a townlean becuz it feels like you should but something is missing that makes you really convinced.
damn, ig jan, colonel, and dya are wolves then
:holmes:
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 22:50
Sup stet, any thoughts on Benneh's blatant attempt to pocket you?
didistetter
08-06-2024, 22:52
Why does everyone say "Let it cook/Simmer" and "I'll leave the game to the pros"??
Fam everyone is a champ in this game, no one has over 30 posts, we need more content, throw out more half-baked reads tbh! :3 It's okay to be wrong d1!
Wisdom
ik this is meant to be a hypeing people of post, but something doesnt quite sit right.
where do you see the bolded mentality at all? that kinda just feels like you conjured it up imo.
let it cook is a valid approach—and you say as much yourself. people need time and space to post more and develope reads
idk it kinda feels like you're being prickly over nothing here?
damn, ig jan, colonel, and dya are wolves then
:holmes:
by that metric i could see jan in your list. not so much the others but i literally forgot what read i had on colonel before.
didistetter
08-06-2024, 22:53
Sup stet, any thoughts on Benneh's blatant attempt to pocket you?
:P
i'm voting him!
It might just be a me thing, but I find it easier to hide in the absurdity that is stream-of-consciousness posting. You can use a lot of words to say very little and actually seem like you're putting in effort. More or less the basis of my wolf game.
In that way, I always react poorly to meandering posts.
Yeah its criminally nai for arctic he just does it as both alignments.
wolves are usually the people you have no read on. like. they kinda sound nice and you wanna give them a townlean becuz it feels like you should but something is missing that makes you really convinced.
Therefore...
didistetter
08-06-2024, 22:55
although i kinda have been pussyfootin around it so:
if you'll indulge me nebjiamn
why do you think i sus you?
do you think im being serious, or just fucking around?
what in your posts or lack thereof do you think i might be scumreading?
:coffeenews:
Wisdom
ik this is meant to be a hypeing people of post, but something doesnt quite sit right.
where do you see the bolded mentality at all? that kinda just feels like you conjured it up imo.
let it cook is a valid approach—and you say as much yourself. people need time and space to post more and develope reads
idk it kinda feels like you're being prickly over nothing here?
Sunbae said that:
Im going to see deadpool and wolverine
Im pretty sure I'm gonna be able to just big vibe and shitpost this game while the titans of werewolf actually solve shit for me <3
Therefore...
Therefor I asked insomnia why he TRed him lol.
although i kinda have been pussyfootin around it so:
if you'll indulge me nebjiamn
why do you think i sus you?
do you think im being serious, or just fucking around?
what in your posts or lack thereof do you think i might be scumreading?
:coffeenews:
It's taking a lot of self control for me to not start lawyering here
I get that I'm not as verbose as others but I don't really feel like I'm on the periphery at all. Also I've been making reads and giving reasons but feels like people are just dismissing them because I don't really wall post
sheepsaysmeep
08-06-2024, 22:58
la minette pâtissier
sheepsaysmeep
08-06-2024, 22:58
Yeah its criminally nai for arctic he just does it as both alignments.
oh damn lol rip my townread
I'm kind of worried about Ben because like his tone feels off. I also expected him to be more excited about playing a long game with sunbae
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:01
Wisdom: re Syn. It's just he seems more prone to directly attack people here (ColonelLub, Jan) in his very special way (look the last one lol "looks at my poe
looks at this post
looks at my poe
looks at this post
surely it cannot be ") here, which I associate with his town game.
I feel it's different from last game where he was a woof (it's not impossible he tasked himself with changing his meta but I vibebe with it aorn).
Ladd posted something I missed though ("everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep
not to be confused with sheep") which is a bit odd like. would be very sadge if Syn is wolfing with sheep but lol. Just something to keep in mind for when one of them flips.
Gonna read the knightofneee (I didn't vibe with you TRing Benneh out of vibes pal :curtain:)
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:04
:P
i'm voting him!
oh I will blame our sleeping host for the lack of vc then. (fr I had no idea lol)
Sunbae said that:
Therefor I asked insomnia why he TRed him lol.
I'm sorry, did you misspeak?
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:07
although i kinda have been pussyfootin around it so:
if you'll indulge me @nebjiamn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=102428)
why do you think i sus you?
do you think im being serious, or just fucking around?
what in your posts or lack thereof do you think i might be scumreading?
:coffeenews:
i presumed its cause i haven't given a read on you but i all in all don't really care
I'm sorry, did you misspeak?
dunno what you mean.
if benneh is wolfing it would be very unlikely to be with either sunbae or dya imo. ymmv. kind of a recycled read i used in a hydra game ages ago but its probs accurate.
oh damn lol rip my townread
maybe ill give u a real one if im feeling like it later on.
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:12
I'm kind of worried about Ben because like his tone feels off. I also expected him to be more excited about playing a long game with sunbae
im hyped about everyone, the list is dope. but i also dont feel the need to spin my cycles super hard for several in game and out of game reasons. i'm happy to let things develop and prod when i want at what i want
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:14
Vote: knightsofneeeee(e?)
I'm logging off for today cya tomorrow!
im hyped about everyone, the list is dope. but i also dont feel the need to spin my cycles super hard for several in game and out of game reasons. i'm happy to let things develop and prod when i want at what i want
Fair enough
I just expected something else. I don't want to vote you right now but wanted to get it out
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 23:19
Vote: knightsofneeeee(e?)
1 too many e’s, vote doesn’t count. Please try again.
wolves are usually the people you have no read on. like. they kinda sound nice and you wanna give them a townlean becuz it feels like you should but something is missing that makes you really convinced.
The implied question was "why are you posting this?"
What does that have to do with insomnia? And who's "him" in this context? Arctic? Sunbae? And for that matter, *when did you even do that*?
From what I can tell, and I *have* reread your posts again, this seems to be in response to Jan's list. Is that incorrect?
I'm logging off for today cya tomorrow!
Alright.
Yall, am I stupid or does what grr said make no sense? Someone sanity check me here.
And yes, those 13 minutes *were* spent rereading lol
ladd congratulated 0 people for their rand btw. pretty sus iyam.
oh one more thing. this was a silly read ofc but when i wrote that i meant id absolutely vote him for that as i did register it out of character and considering not much struck me as sus so far and i'd rather not be construed as meaningless w/w jab later on if ladd flips wolf. enjoy the game until I'm back.
insomnia
08-06-2024, 23:23
Alright.
Yall, am I stupid or does what grr said make no sense? Someone sanity check me here.
it doesn't make sense to me either. he didn't ask me anything
though for some reason i think he's mentioning my read on arctic, i have no clue how it fits in that context tho
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:25
Fair enough
I just expected something else. I don't want to vote you right now but wanted to get it out
i get it, and thats fine
i feel no need to take a leading role in defining thread narratives or being widely top town read and decided pre-game to actively adjust my play to be less abrasive and available constantly for my own mental health and i get why that would weird ppl out given meta considerations
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:27
Alright.
Yall, am I stupid or does what grr said make no sense? Someone sanity check me here.
fwiw it's either self rambling, or wolfy (like trying to engage with Jan's list without actually speaking about its content, or straight up shading dya/Sunbae)
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:28
fwiw it's either self rambling, or wolfy (like trying to engage with Jan's list without actually speaking about its content, or straight up shading dya/Sunbae)
guess it would be nice to elaborate when u get back IH
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 23:28
Dya still wolfy. The way she interacted with me and Ladd was super weird, and she hasn’t done basically anything solving wise, and her tone is pretty lifeless. 10/10 would kill.
Gonna wait and see on raskol, seems like they’re a well known player here, and we’ve never played together so I’m not gonna jump the gun on my read there. Think their read of me is silly but whatever. I get that Benneh is a strong player and people have the #fear.
Grr had a villagery post earlier (I think Ladd quoted it? I just remember he called me village and I liked the reasoning)
Ladd keeps pointing out posts I think are villagers so maybe I’m wrong there idk.
Jan feels wolfy to me. Vibes/tone/not having a read on me is weird, he almost always interacts with me/thinks I’m an easy read when he is a villager, seems off.
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 23:30
Having no read on sunbae so far is concerning.
But maybe wolf sunbae would be trying harder to make a good impression early?
Idk
I’m concerned but not enough to push him
Dya still wolfy. The way she interacted with me and Ladd was super weird, and she hasn’t done basically anything solving wise, and her tone is pretty lifeless. 10/10 would kill.
Gonna wait and see on raskol, seems like they’re a well known player here, and we’ve never played together so I’m not gonna jump the gun on my read there. Think their read of me is silly but whatever. I get that Benneh is a strong player and people have the #fear.
Grr had a villagery post earlier (I think Ladd quoted it? I just remember he called me village and I liked the reasoning)
Ladd keeps pointing out posts I think are villagers so maybe I’m wrong there idk.
Jan feels wolfy to me. Vibes/tone/not having a read on me is weird, he almost always interacts with me/thinks I’m an easy read when he is a villager, seems off.
Fwiw you're still wrong about me and I think my interactions with Ladd (I didn't really interact with you that instance) was fine.
But really you try to not be lifeless working full time coming home to 2 kids under three. I just don't have it in me to do anything more than what I'm doing...which still isn't as bad as anything you've said about me
fwiw it's either self rambling, or wolfy (like trying to engage with Jan's list without actually speaking about its content, or straight up shading dya/Sunbae)
I'm sure it goes without saying, and it *does* go without saying, the concept of the Goldilocks mafia zone should be something that everyone in this lobby grasps. Like, it *literally* goes without saying. There were 2 reads lists which could have been responded to, syn and jan. There were no questions to insom.
Rereading grr's posts for the fifth time, I still don't get it or like it, so she's probably just a wolf.
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:31
Relax Benneh, you are softer than a mashmallow (u not but pat pat)
insomnia
08-06-2024, 23:31
so the early solving on my end was 80% for appearing villagery so i feel like clarifying where im at
the serious reads remain: stett / grr probably ~lock villas. easy reads for anyone to have in top tier imo
off the lower impact (thus far) players, gemma struck me as off in terms of sheer villageriness, i feel like the times i've seen them play they manage to shine through with pure solving process. however, i like their laidback attitude and solo thing they're doing as slightly villagery enough to the point i would probably not wanna kill them today, unless i re-read and i see a howler. i dont remember much
i did feel like arctic making that post was very villagery for ~anyone that would make it, but i guess he's not gone hard enough at anything yet to be confident. not gonna question it for now. and to respond to ih, my read was purely off that post and i don't know his wolfgame and not sure i care to know about it either. there's nobody that can't be caught and im basically in constant re-eval mode
my spicy take that im admittedly stubborn about rn is that newcomb / ladd has a wolf, but i'll see how i feel about it by EoD. it's def not as strong as the other tinfoils i have in normals
anything else im gonna work on in the latter part of the phase, the content thus far didn't do much for me
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:33
Relax Benneh, you are softer than a mashmallow (u not but pat pat)
im very relaxed hombre (what is this in reference to fr lol)
i don't appreciate the shot at my chubbiness tho
insomnia
08-06-2024, 23:34
i guess i'll comment on knights as well since he just made a very contrarian post in here and that's a good look for me
it feels like a game with a strong wolfteam or at least they seem to be blending in with ease thus far. rocking the boat should be villagery here, ymmv
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:35
im very relaxed hombre (what is this in reference to fr lol)
i don't appreciate the shot at my chubbiness tho
dunno, I read mental health and abrasive in ur previous post and thought u could use a smile /backtogaming
theknightsofneeee
08-06-2024, 23:37
Fwiw you're still wrong about me and I think my interactions with Ladd (I didn't really interact with you that instance) was fine.
But really you try to not be lifeless working full time coming home to 2 kids under three. I just don't have it in me to do anything more than what I'm doing...which still isn't as bad as anything you've said about me
Fair enough it could totally be outdated meta/ we haven’t played much recently.
But even without the tone stuff, there really hasn’t been much solving from you yet, more just commentary.
Hopefully it’s just a me problem, I’ll reread all of your stuff in iso later and flesh out my read more. Not locked in on it or anything :shakehands:
Fair enough it could totally be outdated meta/ we haven’t played much recently.
But even without the tone stuff, there really hasn’t been much solving from you yet, more just commentary.
Hopefully it’s just a me problem, I’ll reread all of your stuff in iso later and flesh out my read more. Not locked in on it or anything :shakehands:
I've literally been giving reads and explaining them
Like what? Are you just not reading my posts
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:42
dunno, I read mental health and abrasive in ur previous post and thought u could use a smile /backtogaming
oh gotcha
no nothing like that. im not in a crisis or anything, i just deleted MU discord from my main acct and its done wonders for me just from a productivity standpoint but not cause it was like, actually bugging me or causing me anguish. i was just getting too easily distracted by it and it was preventing me from work/family for silly reasons
the abrasive part is separate but just #personalgrowth stuff
Raskolnikov
08-06-2024, 23:43
so the early solving on my end was 80% for appearing villagery so
u get a D1 pass lol. gj
(not so sure abobut the rest, but "we will follow your subsequent posts with interest")
idk dya seems like an obvious villager to me?
Having no read on sunbae so far is concerning.
But maybe wolf sunbae would be trying harder to make a good impression early?
Idk
I’m concerned but not enough to push him
I'm out of my wolf range imo
I miss you on discord benneh
Alright.
Yall, am I stupid or does what grr said make no sense? Someone sanity check me here.
Ok I lied i am still threadhogging but those things were not connected, i was responding to wisdom, and then i was responding to you. ok gone for real now cya lol.
Tiers of citizens(not sorted within)
Tier 1
Didistetter
Newcomb
Wisdom
Tier 2
Syn
insomnia
Arctic
Tier 3
EnderWiggin
Ladd
grr
Slums
Raskolnikov
C0balt
people I should have a read on but I simply don't
dyachei
Sunbae
people I should not have a read on and I don't
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Gemma
ColonelLubriderm
Maple
Montmorency
Theknightsofneeee
sheepsaysmeep
I don't have a good wolfread right now. But I feel good about ~half of the game!
That is close to a winning poe, maybe!
Why should you have a read on me? I've made like two content posts and have been shitposting mostly
neb is probably a villager but im less certain than with dya
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:53
I miss you on discord benneh
i'm just 1 click away!!
That clarifies nothing.
you were asking about the other post too, it was just a random smartass comment whats ur point about it. i said something that meant nothing to you or maybe to anyone.
I'll just stay here now for a while longer cuz i found that kinda interesting enough lol.
I might not have played a ton of games recently but I have railed some from the shadows and like, idk, I feel like people expect <thing> out of dya that dya just doesn't ever really actually do and then when they don't see <thing> they just shadeshadeshade and then dya gets on the defensive a bit and then because dya has been shaded when they start dropping reads people just throw their hands up a bit and go "oh shucks im not sure what to make out of all this ill just focus elsewhere for a bit" and then they and their reads just kinda sit in their own untouched universe for a couple game days
and like, idk, i read dyas posts and they seem like an obvious villager and id like to try to prevent that from happening here?
apparently this site deletes the little less than and greater than symbols around text, was supposed to say "expecting things out of dya that dya just doesn't ever really actually do then when they don't see things they just shadeshadeshade" but the word things was bracketed by the greater than and less than symbols
The interesting part is that maple has called me a wolf in the last 3 v/v games we played and or something and at some point doing literally 0 course correction starts feeling in bad faith. Like normally you'd think a person would go like "ok i misread that person every game maybe ill just kinda not try this time" but this guy really keeps doing it forever it seems.
you were asking about the other post too, it was just a random smartass comment whats ur point about it. i said something that meant nothing to you or maybe to anyone.
So the post I originally asked about meant nothing. I prompted you to continue by saying "therefore". You then stated the post was made because of a question to Insom.
However, there is no such question to insomnia. So do none of these posts mean anything?
and he was also my wolfbuddy in my last wolfgame where basically half the thread called me outed page 1. so maple is very well aware its not that hard.
nebjiamn
08-06-2024, 23:59
neb is probably a villager but im less certain than with dya
hold on ive always wanted an appropriate time to do this
me moonwalking into the towncore
:creep:~:grouphug:
hold on ive always wanted an appropriate time to do this
me moonwalking into the towncore
:creep:~:grouphug:
HELL YEAH
So the post I originally asked about meant nothing. I prompted you to continue by saying "therefore". You then stated the post was made because of a question to Insom.
However, there is no such question to insomnia. So do none of these posts mean anything?
Arctics behavior with his stream of consciousness posting was NAI. insomnia made a post TRing him early. "Therefor" I questioned insomnia for making a TR on a post that seemed NAI to me earlier. I dont understand what you were getting it.
fry.gif in enders general directi
Okay, so what does that have anything to do with what I was originally asking you about?
And you *didn't* ask insom. You pinged Arctic and asked him what his thoughts on it were.
fwiw im pretty sure maple is a villager too? this is the type of latch on i always find v towny
sheepsaysmeep
08-07-2024, 00:04
re-reading back, i kinda have a problem with this specific part of the HOLY MOTHER OF EXPLANATIONS
and i see sheep should be here so maybe he can clarify
im thinking this is a potential TMI leak, cuz the way in which he made the argument looks as though he's changing his view of knights based on me being a villager = knights can also be one, he's kinda connecting us. but i never argued why i was viewing dya's post as bad in the beginning, so the way in which he brings me up here is a bit odd to me
the problem, tl;dr is, that im interpreting his post as saying knights could be a villa seeing what me (a villa being tmi'd) is seeing for having the same opinion, even though i never explained why i thought dya's post was wolfy
hopefully this isn't nonsense
- initially read dya's post; just didn't see it and thought it was noticeably null
- eventually noticed you said you also saw why the post was scummy (I only noticed this like 3rd time going back to page 1 lol)
- I think if there are two people in thread saying that about a post, then regardless of their alignments, there must be some merit to that. so then I think about it some more and im like oh yea I can see surface-level why that post could seem scummy. leading me to a revised read on tkon thatws still a light early scumlean
i.e. it wasn't the fact that you agreed, but it's more like the fact that you agreed made me sit and think for like more than a minute
insomnia
Raskolnikov
08-07-2024, 00:04
fry.gif in enders general directi
I like Frozen from Madonna too.
nebjiamn
08-07-2024, 00:05
fry.gif in enders general directi
go on
sheepsaysmeep
08-07-2024, 00:07
good lord
Okay you're not the only one doing it i'm not talking to just you here, and high chance I come off as old man yelling at clouds, but goddamn some of you need to activate the editor brain and not just the writer brain.
I'm all for stream of consciousness and i'm a big advocate that making your thoughts clear and your process transparent is a great thing to do in mafia games, but good lord.
Some of y'all are giving multiple paragraphs to thoughts that are really not complex enough to warrant it
again, to be clear, not talking directly to you, there are a couple lyrical miracle posters ITT.
you and artic are making posts more convulted than usual
sorry everyone my fault for starting it im sorry
I'm gonna reread everything you wrote maple cuz I probably misunderstand you.
theknightsofneeee
08-07-2024, 00:08
fwiw im pretty sure maple is a villager too? this is the type of latch on i always find v towny
Hard agree
And I’ll reevaluate on dya for now
Vote: Jan
go on
A visual aid of Ender in relation to the towncore as I read more posts
~:grouphug: :creep:
Raskolnikov
08-07-2024, 00:08
go on
Wolfy go on :curtain:
sorry everyone my fault for starting it im sorry
no need for an apology hit us with those walls
Arctic do you agree with this read?
i don't think it's correct to townread me for the reason of being convoluted but i probably wouldn't have made a post with that flavor of convolution as a wolf
so i dunno. i don't agree with the reason but he's kinda right
nebjiamn
08-07-2024, 00:11
I might not have played a ton of games recently but I have railed some from the shadows and like, idk, I feel like people expect <thing> out of dya that dya just doesn't ever really actually do and then when they don't see <thing> they just shadeshadeshade and then dya gets on the defensive a bit and then because dya has been shaded when they start dropping reads people just throw their hands up a bit and go "oh shucks im not sure what to make out of all this ill just focus elsewhere for a bit" and then they and their reads just kinda sit in their own untouched universe for a couple game days
and like, idk, i read dyas posts and they seem like an obvious villager and id like to try to prevent that from happening here?
</thing></thing>minus the meta expectations this is basically how i feel about sheeps posts
(i agree about dya, mostly about expectations placed on them and stuff morethan them being 'obv town' here but close enuff)
nebjiamn
08-07-2024, 00:12
Wolfy go on :curtain:
go on
nebjiamn
08-07-2024, 00:12
A visual aid of Ender in relation to the towncore as I read more posts
~:grouphug: :creep:
he might be a wolf but gd he can also dance
Oh my god are we having this conversation because you didn't see i was quoting a *specific post* and have been questioning you about a *specific post* and not at *all* about your arctic read?
Because I'm just taking your word on the arctic thing
Oh my god are we having this conversation because you didn't see i was quoting a *specific post* and have been questioning you about a *specific post* and not at *all* about your arctic read?
this time maples town and im gonna be right i know it
nebjiamn
08-07-2024, 00:14
Oh my god are we having this conversation because you didn't see i was quoting a *specific post* and have been questioning you about a *specific post* and not at *all* about your arctic read?
w/w interaction iyam
w/w interaction iyam
imagine?
Raskolnikov
08-07-2024, 00:15
go on
nvm, I was expecting some activity based read/shade/shitpost from Sunbae smh (and u seemed potentially encouraging it lol) so it's kinda moot since it seems serious. I am actually curious about Sunbae's read on Ender now.
If sunbae is attempting to pocket me it's working
Like it just about explains how people treat me in games every time
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