Tarot Mafia

[Maple]

assuming im dist :P

im not really sure utr is right word if thats what i said:

more like, it felt like thread was coalescing around slots like sheep/knights/ender/gemma, who, no offence, seem kinda LHF in the context of this game.

I fully understand mafia can and often are in LHF positions, i'm just not sold on that being the case here.

Colbalt, on the other hand, is in the weird postion of being a lower impact slot, but hasn't had as much concrete pushing and sussing, and that kinda raises flags for me.

ik jan mentioned he was busy, i'll go back to try to look for what cobalt may have said wrt slank cover, im just struggling to believe in the top wagons when there's some stuff from each of them i find as actively towny.

does that make sense? Maple

frankly if i had to label anyone as potentially UTR scum it would be like... idk maybe a maf in you/isomn/dya

Yeah that makes more sense, and is sort of what I guessed you meant. Honestly, I'm not getting a whole lot of signals to force action elsewhere, though I have been looking for it. I don't think going for Cobalt in this gamestate would be much different, though based on the newcomb shield (iirc) and stuff like that Cobalt doesn't seem to be under threat.

I could see rask as someone interesting here, but presenting what I have there at present would look fairly thin.

[Maple]

what in the hedge is this lmao

can you reword this/expand on this pls? i have no idea what you're saying ngl

In general, I see what you're trying to do and assuming you're a villager I can see getting stuck when approaching the game in that way.

This however doesn't put you out of wolf range. So I don't yet have a concrete alignment read yet.

[insomnia]

why ladd more so than sunbae?

i know ladd more than i do sunbae

i don't have a grand case or anything, but i think the way he pokes a little at benneh / knights for show and then still lands up on the most uninspiring slots without any visible conclusion on the previous ones to be wolfy

my initial reasoning for having him wolf was because i feel like he was taking pot shots at sheep by pocketing newcomb who was doing nothing but simply asking sheep questions (and the reason i had newcomb wolfy was cuz those questions seemed really general, but im starting to think he's better, like i said)
ladd since i also saw you asking me the same thing. i had this post typed out on my PC but i had someone come over and i couldn't post til now

[insomnia]

oops, i thought i had this thought typed out, but i guess i didn't

also, the way in which ladd made the post on sheep pinged me as wolfier for him because it shows his process and i think that's wolfier when he shows everyone his process rather than applying that process and we can figure out from how he's asking questions or pushing things. if that makes sense to anyone

[insomnia]

Vote: Gemma

barring she somehow becomes villagerier or wants to post thoughts, this will probably remain my vote. not sacrificing knights when the CW doesn't even try to be villagery

[insomnia]

I am more or less at this


Sheep posts wrt knights pinged me a bit about wanting it TOO much, like in some places it seemed like it started from the assumption

E.g. i think dya opening is neutral--> knkghts pushing it is wolfy

Idk i find the confidence and reasoning of his knights read a bit backwards (starts frkm knights wolf and thrn justifies it)

But (here comes the hedge eheh) when i used to play woth sheep like 3-4 years ago i mislunched them a bunch so ya



Surprised knigts has no read on sheep push on them tbh

this is the post im talking about

it's trying a little too hard to land on the showmanship side (of showing his process more than applying it while thinking about the game) imo. could be wrong

like referencing the "starts from knights wolfread then justifies it" is a thing he probably applies in games but never actually says it ime. that's what i mean by the thing being a lot more for show than genuine, sorta "im thinking about the game guise". but it looked like you took advantage of newcomb poking him a little and chiming in without any solid reason to be there

[Maple]

1. dyachei
2. Arctic
3. Didistetter
4. Vanta Black
5. nebjiamn
6. Sunbae
7. Raskolnikov
8. Hally (ladd)
9. Jan
10. Gemma
11. grr
12. EnderWiggin
13. insomnia
14. Wisdom
15. Syn
16. ColonelLubriderm
17. Newcomb
18. Maple
19. Montmorency
20. Theknightsofneeee
21. C0balt
22. sheepsaysmeep

Hm, so people I'd be disappointed to see die as of right this moment, I suppose, might look like

Arctic
Dist (I can't remember the s name yall are calling him so I'm sticking with dist)
Ben
Sunbae
Ladd
Jan
Grr
Bop
Newcomb

Going for a second pass let's see
Dya I have no read, between ranges, there's a couple flags I haven't seen yet that'd tilt this into v off meta-vibes (as opposed to a meta read) but we'll see if those proc

Vanta I don't really care? There's like 1 post I remember liking off inquisitiveness and that's it

Sunbae I'm back and forth on, I can see where vbae is coming from this game but the whole backfoot cause newcomb thing is interesting. I don't think I have enough time to fully process thus set of interactions.

Rask I'm shrug on, I recall like 2 good posts and I *know* I could twist a case on the guy and make it convincing, but just cause I think I can kill someone doesn't make them a wolf

Jan is in a very awkward place for me, ranges-wise. Feels like v!Jan but I've been getting some vague vibes that worry me, so keeping him around is for the best for now. I'm just getting flashbacks to some mash we played together and I had similar vibes but I don't actually remember what his alignment was in it

Gemma I poked once or twice and they seem like a shelled off player. I'm not getting much from them and that's presumably deliberate. I'm sure there's some Gemma readers in the building so I don't have to.

Ender literally 0 read, don't remember a single post or what their pfp looks like

Insomnia eh dude wants to not die, I guess just let him not die for a day and see what happens, what's the worst that could happen? I have deeper thoughts here but I'm on mobile and I'm lazy and I doubt anyone cares about my read here atm

Wisdom idk feels different for me. Hard to put my finger on, but I haven't been getting anything that makes me want to save the slot so w/e

Syn no read

Monte no read

Knights is going to be boiled at eod, and if he's villager hopefully makes it out alive

Cobalt no read

Sheep I was getting pretty close to putting him into the first group but about 1/3 of the stuff he's posted in the second half of day has pinged me, details pending


As you can guess, my wim to finish this post went down over time so details definitely get more scarce the further down I went. Mm there's no one I'm itching to kill at the moment.

Any suggestions on iso?

[Vanta Black]

Autosaved my buns.

[grr]

Pushing me for locking Jan town based on one post is a very safe and easy move. Adding "Having a 9 people PoE is wolfy" (I think 9 is winnable?) just seemed forced. Yeah a lot of times I can see where people comes from and I'm used to it being a way to read others, but here it just seemed like he decided I was wolf. Others corrected him and he just doubled down without adressing their counterpoints.

I know I've read a few towny posts from him as well though, it's just that his push on me left a sour raste in my mouth.

You seem like you're just doing your own thing and I find it towny, questioning my read is towny, sussing Newcomb was towny, your general vibe is towny, you're cute, I dunno :3 Now that you say it the last part is what you've fooled me with before (like 3 years ago?) but weh!

lol wisdom, that was anni '23 and i fooled you by... funnily enough, tunneling you. you struggle with v-reading me when im waffling and being cringe and lamist which is more my v-meta :P

doing my own thing is like, idk. yea sure im doing my own thing ig.




postcap not being lifted for eod is kinda hellish and maybe a mistake honestly

town:

arctic
grr
stett
newcomb
ladd
insomnia
bopolis
wisdom
dya
ender

last villa for a winning towncore is between syn based on my own read or jan if i sheep people, probably safer to go with jan ngl

might read isos to get a more definitive answer but it's definitely not any of the rest

Arctic
I kinda like ur post so im towncoring you for no reason (i think this is also strategically just correct anyway, and honestly im just villareading u i dont know why im such a pussycat about vreading u every game hehe). But umm, I feel like my entire solve is in your "winning towncore" so one of is us very wrong

I have an issue with newcombs last GTH "readslist" (i know it wasnt reads just thoughts, but that isnt my issue). It was like, really bland and specifically the take on you I did not like because it was basically mischaracterizing you as a babbler and I think your post are, at large, after that one comment Newcomb quoted early in the game, easy to read, and direct.

I think Jan and Newcomb have huge partner equity. Wisdom I kinda wolfread atm mostly for out-of-character things im just. like. idk its still garbage to yeet her id rather pretend she's alr. flipped and find the other wolves. (another problematic slot IF newcomb and Jan are wolves would be ladd but im pointing out thats only becuz his readslist make me squint then, i didnt have an issue with his posts)

[Vanta Black]

Maple=Manti? Okay, I liked the "six words" post because it articulated how I felt when I saw the post in question.

[Vanta Black]

I'm doing this sentence by sentence because my replies keep disappaering when I go back to check things in the thread.

[grr]

lol wisdom, that was anni '23 and i fooled you by... funnily enough, tunneling you. you struggle with v-reading me when im waffling and being cringe and lamist which is more my v-meta :P

doing my own thing is like, idk. yea sure im doing my own thing ig.





Arctic
I kinda like ur posts so im towncoring you for no reason (i think this is also strategically just correct anyway, and honestly im just villareading u i dont know why im such a pussycat about vreading u every game hehe). But umm, I feel like my entire solve is in your "winning towncore" so one of is us very wrong

I have an issue with newcombs last GTH "readslist" (i know it wasnt reads just thoughts, but that isnt my issue). It was like, really bland and specifically the take on you I did not like because it was basically mischaracterizing you as a babbler and I think your post are, at large, after that one comment Newcomb quoted early in the game, easy to read, and direct.

I think Jan and Newcomb have huge partner equity. Wisdom I kinda wolfread atm mostly for out-of-character things im just. like. idk its still garbage to yeet her id rather pretend she's alr. flipped and find the other wolves. (another problematic slot IF newcomb and Jan are wolves would be ladd but im pointing out thats only becuz his readslist make me squint then, i didnt have an issue with his posts)

edit.

i just forgot an s but that's an important correction lol. plural. i liked your posts lol.

[Vanta Black]

Arctic asked what a vote count tells somebody. At this point, assuming it's majority, it would tell me if I needed to move my vote. I was also keeping a record of votes but I'm behind in that (today I am behind in everything) so I don't know.

[didistetter]

Vote: Gemma

barring she somehow becomes villagerier or wants to post thoughts, this will probably remain my vote. not sacrificing knights when the CW doesn't even try to be villagery

wow i hate this post lol

[didistetter]

Arctic asked what a vote count tells somebody. At this point, assuming it's majority, it would tell me if I needed to move my vote. I was also keeping a record of votes but I'm behind in that (today I am behind in everything) so I don't know.

Vanta Black current VC:


Tarot Game: Current Votecount

VotesTargetVoters
4Theknightsofneeee EnderWiggen, Raskolnikov, Newcomb, Gemma
4Gemma Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Insomnia
2Enderwiggen nebjiamn, dyachei
1Sheepsaysmeep Syn
1Jan Theknightsofneeee
1Wisdom ColonelLubriderm
1ladd didistetter
1ColonelLubriderm Vanta Black
1Raskolnikov Grr
1SunbaeJan
5Not voting Arctic, Sunbae, Montmorency, C0balt, Maple


Maple just fyi you didn’t bold your p#858 vote on gemma so it won’t count

[didistetter]

postcap not being lifted for eod is kinda hellish and maybe a mistake honestly

town:

arctic
grr
stett
newcomb
ladd
insomnia
bopolis
wisdom
dya
ender

last villa for a winning towncore is between syn based on my own read or jan if i sheep people, probably safer to go with jan ngl

might read isos to get a more definitive answer but it's definitely not any of the rest
Arctic talk to me about the bolded pls?

[didistetter]

grr

hi

ih, ngl, i think you're wasting a lot of energy tunneling someone mafia are gonna kill n1/n2 and its probs not gonna help you get into the game

idk if this would help set your mind at ease but, here's newcombs most recent mu scumgame Rocks Fall Invitational (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29641-Rocks-Fall-and-Someone-Dies-an-Invitational) his posting is nowhere near what it is here, he was killed by town kp n2, and he's just well... worse (no offense newcomb)

caveat: this is a 3 year old game, so maybe he's rlly leveled up his wolfing.

but like

this post (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29641-Rocks-Fall-and-Someone-Dies-an-Invitational?p=4641267#post4641267) compared to his output today is just a hard dif. he's way hedgier and awkward there, and feels kinda meek and awkward.

also he doesnt have a sinlge wolf win on mu but thats neither here nor there

im not trying to discourage your process, im just not sure if its worth the mental energy to worry about newcomb?

[grr]

grr

hi

ih, ngl, i think you're wasting a lot of energy tunneling someone mafia are gonna kill n1/n2 and its probs not gonna help you get into the game

idk if this would help set your mind at ease but, here's newcombs most recent mu scumgame Rocks Fall Invitational (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29641-Rocks-Fall-and-Someone-Dies-an-Invitational) his posting is nowhere near what it is here, he was killed by town kp n2, and he's just well... worse (no offense newcomb)

caveat: this is a 3 year old game, so maybe he's rlly leveled up his wolfing.

but like

this post (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29641-Rocks-Fall-and-Someone-Dies-an-Invitational?p=4641267#post4641267) compared to his output today is just a hard dif. he's way hedgier and awkward there, and feels kinda meek and awkward.

also he doesnt have a sinlge wolf win on mu but thats neither here nor there

im not trying to discourage your process, im just not sure if its worth the mental energy to worry about newcomb?

breh what process ~D, like c0balt im just off from a very hard game where i played very excellent im just here to vibe, enjoy the show, be a polarized noob and call people wolves. i can talk about bop cuz i do have a real take on him.

In specific, I have him as confident town for their read on me:




i have no thoughts on grr and with everyone seeming tolike them im just gonna shrug and go with it


tell me if im conjuring something up here but this heavily implicates that they a) tried to form an independent read on me, b) sourced their actual stance on me based on what others are saying in thread (opposed to wolfchat or just wolf-tmi in general), and c) go along with it without trying to farm any cred by selling it as an own v-read.

I think it's a rare angle for a wolf.

was that a decent use of my energy?

[ladd]

Vote: Gemma

barring she somehow becomes villagerier or wants to post thoughts, this will probably remain my vote. not sacrificing knights when the CW doesn't even try to be villagery

has knights tried to be villagery tho? Some spooky gemma votes ngl


@manti i'd be curious of a benneh iso



i think bop is a villager cause of what he did not say but clearly was thinking vs what he actually said. Like i think in his mind he was linking me and wisdom even if he never said so explicitely but i could FEEL that he was clearing thinking about game/associations/worlds, whateve ryou wanna call it in a critical way

no one asked but i saw grr post their bop villa read so i figured i may chime in cause i feel pretty good about it now

[didistetter]

ok so:

i think wagons are v/v.

I think knight's been fine, i think gemma's been fine.

people arent gonna want to d1 ladd, benneh, or sunbae even if that group has wolves, which: fair enough.
cobalt gets a d1 pass for having rough irl, again: fair enough.


My TRs:
Arctic
Grr
Newcomb
sheepsaysmeep

Kinda sorta town lean maybe:
Sunbae
Raskolnikov
Jan
Gemma
Enderwiggin
Wisdom
Theknightsofneeee

Everyone else
dyachei
nebjiamn
Ladd
Vanta Black
Insomnia
Syn
ColonelLubriderm
Maple
Montmorency
C0balt

Im sure not having a firm opinion on syn/vanta is revelatory stuff, but I briefly skimmed vanta in saints and syn in cereal killer, and im hard pressed to find them towny so far here in comparison

Bop is kinda odd to me. He’s had some solid posts, but he’s in this weird floaty space where something just feels kinda off? Idk, and I probs wouldn’t vote him till I could verbalize what feels wrong
Maple ngl if its ok its fine if you dont wanna call me stett, but could you maybe do didistetter instead of dist? every time u say dist i read it as
Dysentery

[didistetter]

damn ih and ladd can apparently read my mind and anticipate the bop thoughts.

spooky

:stars:

[theknightsofneeee]

Yo I’m here but not

My laptop just caught fire (literally) and I’ve been moving a roommate into my house so my comp setup is in shambles

Will probably be phone posting till EOD unless my sister gets home and I can use hers.

If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns please hmu

[ladd]

Yo I’m here but not

My laptop just caught fire (literally) and I’ve been moving a roommate into my house so my comp setup is in shambles

Will probably be phone posting till EOD unless my sister gets home and I can use hers.

If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns please hmu

idk if you are caught up but why do you suspect gemma?

any thoughts is fine, just spitball iyam

[didistetter]

Yo I’m here but not

My laptop just caught fire (literally) and I’ve been moving a roommate into my house so my comp setup is in shambles

Will probably be phone posting till EOD unless my sister gets home and I can use hers.

If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns please hmu

welllll you're kinda tied for top wagon king so:

if you're town, p much anything that shows that would be sick.

if you could cw anyone rn, who do you feel strongest about having the chance to flip wolf?

ik you're voting jan buuuuut. for the sake of this someone else please.

do you think the wagon on you is town motivated? If not, which do you think is more opportunistic and why? (EnderWiggen, Raskolnikov, Newcomb, Gemma)

unlucky on the laptop, hopefully you can get a new one or repair soon

[sheepsaysmeep]

I am decently certain bop is a villager for something completely unrelated tho.

grr any chance could talk about this lol

[theknightsofneeee]

has knights tried to be villagery tho? Some spooky gemma votes ngl


@manti i'd be curious of a benneh iso



i think bop is a villager cause of what he did not say but clearly was thinking vs what he actually said. Like i think in his mind he was linking me and wisdom even if he never said so explicitely but i could FEEL that he was clearing thinking about game/associations/worlds, whateve ryou wanna call it in a critical way

no one asked but i saw grr post their bop villa read so i figured i may chime in cause i feel pretty good about it now

I’d argue I haven’t been wolfy and people (like Newcomb) who are voting me don’t really have a reason to vote me so much as they are just apathetic to the lynch

But there have been a distinct lack of people defending me this game, and at this point almost half the game has said they would consider me for a lunch, which should mean something wrt my alignment in a game of this small size and with a player base as strong as this.

Consensus targets in a stacked game like this are almost always villagers because the wolves are able to make a convincing argument to lynch a villager, and the villagers are also strong villagers who just happen to be wrong, but believe it.

And I have in no way had a ‘crash out obvious day 1 wolf game’ (I definitely have had those before lol) so the fact that it’s been pretty obvious that people were gestating up the ability to vote on me for most the day should really speak volumes.

[theknightsofneeee]

Gemma

Pretty sure you had me as a villager

Why did you vote me?

[ColonelLubriderm]

i think bop is a villager cause of what he did not say but clearly was thinking vs what he actually said. Like i think in his mind he was linking me and wisdom even if he never said so explicitely but i could FEEL that he was clearing thinking about game/associations/worlds, whateve ryou wanna call it in a critical way

youre not wrong

[sheepsaysmeep]

grr any chance could talk about this lol

oh u did lmao my bad

[didistetter]

I’d argue I haven’t been wolfy and people (like Newcomb) who are voting me don’t really have a reason to vote me so much as they are just apathetic to the lynch

But there have been a distinct lack of people defending me this game, and at this point almost half the game has said they would consider me for a lunch, which should mean something wrt my alignment in a game of this small size and with a player base as strong as this.

Consensus targets in a stacked game like this are almost always villagers because the wolves are able to make a convincing argument to lynch a villager, and the villagers are also strong villagers who just happen to be wrong, but believe it.

And I have in no way had a ‘crash out obvious day 1 wolf game’ (I definitely have had those before lol) so the fact that it’s been pretty obvious that people were gestating up the ability to vote on me for most the day should really speak volumes.

https://i.imgur.com/P6oDJ51.png

uhhhhhhh i dont. love this post lol.

feels very generic, and isnt try to understand motivation so much as cast general shade/be appealing with minimal effort.

im not so sure bout the "no one defending me" = town read.

wagons are pretty small even if lots of people have shaded you. 4 votes in a 22p game is nothing.

[theknightsofneeee]

v
stetter
newcomb
syn
arctic
ih

sure ig
insom
bop
nee

will the game end before we misyeet you who knows
cobalt

dya
themselves

lack
rask
vanta
mont

die
manti

if nee is a wolf they're prob with lackers

I disliked this from Gemma, felt like they were giving themselves space to vote me later, and I think manti has been really villagers so I disliked the wolf read, and only other people not called villa were lowposters

Felt super copout’y/consensus’s

But think Jan has been wolfier

[didistetter]

I disliked this from Gemma, felt like they were giving themselves space to vote me later, and I think manti has been really villagers so I disliked the wolf read, and only other people not called villa were lowposters

Felt super copout’y/consensus’s

But think Jan has been wolfier


elaborate pls?

where and how?

[ladd]

youre not wrong

i usually have a good feeling for this type of stuff eheh



Maple=Manti? Okay, I liked the "six words" post because it articulated how I felt when I saw the post in question.

this 6 words post from manti is starting to feel like a meme




in generale these manti strong villa reads are super confusing to me lol I feel like they mean...something


https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbWR3ZDJmbXk2NTQzOWVvb213MWsxN25jM2lya3J1c3hvcTFrNWJucCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/V9gjxvLnSSdA4/giphy.gif

[theknightsofneeee]

https://i.imgur.com/P6oDJ51.png

uhhhhhhh i dont. love this post lol.

feels very generic, and isnt try to understand motivation so much as cast general shade/be appealing with minimal effort.

im not so sure bout the "no one defending me" = town read.

wagons are pretty small even if lots of people have shaded you. 4 votes in a 22p game is nothing.

I just fundamentally disagree, I feel like thread state and seeing who the village is comfortable with voting/lynching is a huge part of solving people’s alignments, and while yes I only have 4 votes, a lot of people have signaled they would be down

Maybe I’m just more sensitive to it because it’s me, but whatever.


Not gonna keep focusing on this just thought it was worth mentioning.

[theknightsofneeee]

elaborate pls?

where and how?

I made a case on why I think Jan is a wolf, and I’m voting him, that should be obvious.

WRT maple (mantichora) I think his fixation on grr for like 10 posts and wanting to kill the fuck out of him, and then eventually realizing what I think every one else knew from the outset that it was probably just a weird post and NAI, was super villagers and something I have done in the past as a villager. Sometimes you think you caught someone and you have to slowly realize it was probably nothing and move on.

[insomnia]

has knights tried to be villagery tho? Some spooky gemma votes ngl


another reason why i feel like you're a wolf, you just don't seem to pay much attention to what im saying

i think this vote is pretty obvious where it's coming from, so how can it be spooky? and also you said i was repping you newcomb w/w, but i explicitly said 1 in you two

[Newcomb]

i'm considering Syn as a CW here. Went and skimmed their iso and there's some good vibes but at this point in the game I see a pretty eyebrow raising lack of anything I'd call substance.

The main points I'm getting are:

- lots of people are passing the vibe check
- doesn't like walls, skimming
- some shade at Rask for having an early read on them
- Gemma is posting well
- votes sheep, no reason given
- has a reads list, no real reasons
- lack of consensus D1 is to be expected

Yeah idk I'm definitely not seeing anything I'd call an interest in solving the game. I'd be interested in someone with meta on Syn to kind of give me a general idea of them as a player. I'm down with a certain amount of carefree shitposty flighty energy but I'm not seeing anything where there's even a little spark of a thread to follow and then it's followed. Just a ton of fluff.

[sheepsaysmeep]

has knights tried to be villagery tho? Some spooky gemma votes ngl


any other ones come to mind?

[Arctic]

Actually, I'm a Lover.



What was your previous account?

Marshall Louis-Nicolas Davout

[insomnia]

v
stett
grr
arctic
maple
raskolnikov
colonel lubriderm


where im at

[Arctic]

Yeah that makes more sense, and is sort of what I guessed you meant. Honestly, I'm not getting a whole lot of signals to force action elsewhere, though I have been looking for it. I don't think going for Cobalt in this gamestate would be much different, though based on the newcomb shield (iirc) and stuff like that Cobalt doesn't seem to be under threat.

I could see rask as someone interesting here, but presenting what I have there at present would look fairly thin.

"newcomb shield" feels like not what is actually going on here
people just aren't voting him because of irl which is understandable
i have basically no thoughts on his content

[ladd]

another reason why i feel like you're a wolf, you just don't seem to pay much attention to what im saying

i think this vote is pretty obvious where it's coming from, so how can it be spooky? and also you said i was repping you newcomb w/w, but i explicitly said 1 in you two

its spooky cause you are building up to this big bad ladd narrative but voting against someone that is clearly never paired with me

your reasons for suspecting me are terrible btw

did i ever say you were repping me/newcomb w/w? Idr it, i just remember you posting a villa list that did not have either me and newcomb and i told you that newcomb is an easy add



Newcomb syn was a wolf in their last game here and was def worse but i also think they are worse here than their vila games...so inconclusive. If it helps you give a baseline they are generally a snarky villager with fairly confident reads who makes a lot 1 liners

[ladd]

any other ones come to mind?

yours

:curtain:


i'll re skim syn iso super quick

[Gemma]

Gemma

Pretty sure you had me as a villager

Why did you vote me?

good morning

i had u as you're fine i guess

voted u bc i'm not voting ender i don't really have any better options rn

also i went to bed thinking ladd might actually just be a wolf but i see stett beat me to the punch so now i dont get to claim it as an original opinion, wolfy of me tbh

[Montmorency]

[TIMER=1:00 AM UTC,7/8/24;EOD 1] EOD 1[/TIMER ]



Rask I'm shrug on, I recall like 2 good posts and I *know* I could twist a case on the guy and make it convincing, but just cause I think I can kill someone doesn't make them a wolf


:inquisitive:


ih, ngl, i think you're wasting a lot of energy tunneling someone mafia are gonna kill n1/n2 and its probs not gonna help you get into the game

idk if this would help set your mind at ease but, here's newcombs most recent mu scumgame Rocks Fall Invitational (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29641-Rocks-Fall-and-Someone-Dies-an-Invitational) his posting is nowhere near what it is here, he was killed by town kp n2, and he's just well... worse (no offense newcomb)

caveat: this is a 3 year old game, so maybe he's rlly leveled up his wolfing.

but like

this post (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29641-Rocks-Fall-and-Someone-Dies-an-Invitational?p=4641267#post4641267) compared to his output today is just a hard dif. he's way hedgier and awkward there, and feels kinda meek and awkward.

also he doesnt have a sinlge wolf win on mu but thats neither here nor there

im not trying to discourage your process, im just not sure if its worth the mental energy to worry about newcomb?

Huh, that's quite a strong post.

[ColonelLubriderm]

if there is no third wagon i voting gemma; i dont think wisdom wagon is going to go and im kind of ambivalent about it at this point.

i dont even really have a read on knights, i just have a wolfy lean on gemma and the basis of that is weak but yet the heart wants what it wants.

[didistetter]

Vote: Syn

sure i like that better than knights or gemma

[Montmorency]

EOD 1

Dammit

[didistetter]

[TIMER=1:00 AM UTC,7/8/24;EOD 1] EOD 1[/TIMER ]




:inquisitive:



Huh, that's quite a strong post.
Montmorency

of all posts to react to, why that one? feels odd to pick out when you haven't had any presence this game so presumably dont have opinions yet on me, ih, or newcomb.

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote syn

[ColonelLubriderm]

Vote: Syn

sure i like that better than knights or gemma

i xposted the same thing

did we just become best friends

[theknightsofneeee]

Villagers

Knights

Stett
Maple
Newcomb

Benneh

Cobalt (still need to recheck)
Ladd
Bopolis
Dyachei
Sheep

People I got good vibes from on my skin today but need to reread more thoroughly before I move them to villagers

Enderwiggen
Vanta

No read/head empty

Arctic
Sunbae
Raskol
Wisdom
Mont
Sun
Insomnia
Grr

Wolverines

Jan
Gemma

[Newcomb]

Vote: Syn

sure i like that better than knights or gemma

I know I'm the one suggesting it but the problem is I really don't want D2 to just be like, a rehash of knights again.

But there's enough time left in the day for exploration I think

Vote: Syn

[theknightsofneeee]

good morning

i had u as you're fine i guess

voted u bc i'm not voting ender i don't really have any better options rn

also i went to bed thinking ladd might actually just be a wolf but i see stett beat me to the punch so now i dont get to claim it as an original opinion, wolfy of me tbh

Why not just vote maple?

The person you had as a wolf?


Lol this is just weird to me tbh

Feels like you voted me because I had a wagon and for saying I had you as wolfy

[ColonelLubriderm]

Villagers

Knights

Stett
Maple
Newcomb

Benneh

Cobalt (still need to recheck)
Ladd
Bopolis
Dyachei
Sheep

People I got good vibes from on my skin today but need to reread more thoroughly before I move them to villagers

Enderwiggen
Vanta

No read/head empty

Arctic
Sunbae
Raskol
Wisdom
Mont
Sun
Insomnia
Grr

Wolverines

Jan
Gemma

wheres syn dog

[ColonelLubriderm]

wheres syn dog

nm i assume sun=syn

[Gemma]

ok, first:

Gemma: played one game with them. feels unfazed and genuine to me. gth villager. vibe with this post a lot P#773 which is sole reason enough for me to shield them with my life today even when its nai. I think they have been wolfreading insomnia for something that isnt actually wolfy for him though. worst part is i dont get why they have been towning me cuz in that one game i played with them I played VERY different (deathtunneled 2/3 wolves d1 lol) so i'm not sure if they just forgot or something because genuinely people just love to compare me to my peak games so i kinda expected them to wolfread me. ig i dont really care too much still think its a >rand villagery iso

when did we play together

idk what 773 is but it was probably an awesome post i agree

i v read u bc of your exchange with manti plus your apparent meta of being mega outed when wolf which im just deciding to believe is true

[didistetter]

vote syn



You will vote for players you want killed during the day, using the format, Vote: Visorslash. Votes must be in bold to count. You do not need to unvote to vote someone else. I will count your last legal vote as your vote. You must use that specific vote format with the colon or the vote WILL NOT count. (this is so i can find the votes easier)


:P

friends is tbd. you interest me b/c i have 0 playstyle basis to meta compare so i have to fully stick to game bubble. you're kinda here nor there so rn i'm listening to peeps who know you. I think wisdom is town and your push on them is ehhhhhhh but you've had some really solid analysis

[Montmorency]

also i went to bed thinking ladd might actually just be a wolf but i see stett beat me to the punch so now i dont get to claim it as an original opinion, wolfy of me tbh

ladd might always just be a wolf


Montmorency

of all posts to react to, why that one? feels odd to pick out when you haven't had any presence this game so presumably dont have opinions yet on me, ih, or newcomb.

Well, from what I've read you're one of the closest players to a consensus TR, and the quoted post would have been very audacious as mafia.


Marshall Louis-Nicolas Davout

Hmm. Well, back in the day, most games were flipless and/or mountainous, so you could even see like 2 mafia against 30 or 40 players. I'm not sure even the most hardcore on MU go for 40% Mafia? That would be a team of 8 or 9 here, meaning instant Maf victory after as few as 2 MLs in a row.

[Gemma]

Why not just vote maple?

The person you had as a wolf?


Lol this is just weird to me tbh

Feels like you voted me because I had a wagon and for saying I had you as wolfy

mostly folk v read them or don't wolf read them and i dont care enough to campaign for it

[Arctic]

lol wisdom, that was anni '23 and i fooled you by... funnily enough, tunneling you. you struggle with v-reading me when im waffling and being cringe and lamist which is more my v-meta :P

doing my own thing is like, idk. yea sure im doing my own thing ig.





Arctic
I kinda like ur post so im towncoring you for no reason (i think this is also strategically just correct anyway, and honestly im just villareading u i dont know why im such a pussycat about vreading u every game hehe). But umm, I feel like my entire solve is in your "winning towncore" so one of is us very wrong

I have an issue with newcombs last GTH "readslist" (i know it wasnt reads just thoughts, but that isnt my issue). It was like, really bland and specifically the take on you I did not like because it was basically mischaracterizing you as a babbler and I think your post are, at large, after that one comment Newcomb quoted early in the game, easy to read, and direct.

I think Jan and Newcomb have huge partner equity. Wisdom I kinda wolfread atm mostly for out-of-character things im just. like. idk its still garbage to yeet her id rather pretend she's alr. flipped and find the other wolves. (another problematic slot IF newcomb and Jan are wolves would be ladd but im pointing out thats only becuz his readslist make me squint then, i didnt have an issue with his posts)

reached the point of the phase where i'm doubting everything
well not everything but mostly my townreads on ladd and wisdom

newcomb however i still feel is pretty plainly town, stett explains it pretty well later but i think his wolfgame, from what i've heard, would be more obvious than it is here. i mean i looked at some of it myself and it seems true. i don't really agree with his evaluation of me either but i think that was what stuck out to him the most so i don't blame him for mentioning it if he was only going with short phrases. but to be clear i also liked his approach to vanta and his paranoia on ladd. first felt pro-town and second just felt villagery and unnecessary for a wolf to do cuz i mean if newcomb is a wolf presumably he's using ladd to push knights/sheep who are prob both town in that world and he wouldn't want to break that rapport with ladd. if they're wolves together then it's even more unnecessary

i'm open to hearing you out on wisdom because she doesn't really seem out of character to me - the only real issue i had with her was her first post on Jan but everything else just seems like normal wisdom including all the normal things she gets suspected for

jan i am pretty plainly sheeping people familiar with him - i haven't really found him particularly towny but nothing has pinged me either

i think in a playerlist of this caliber it's unlikely that the consensus yeets end up all being town. if they are i'm gonna look awful for saying this, but like, i think this is something that people forget to consider and it happens a lot in sweaty hydra games on MU where everyone is tryharding and then you get fuppy1 and fuppy 2 saying "omg no guys both wagons are town this is so bad" when most of the time town is just completely on the ball. im not saying that has to be the case here, but statistically speaking there is probably a lower hanging fruit wolf and it doesn't really make sense to go after people like newcomb or jan today when neither have been overtly wolfy and i trust both to be more readable later than like.. gemma, or vanta, or monty guy

to be clear i don't subscribe to giving people day 1 passes for being good. if they are incredibly wolfy then sure fuck it, but if the yeet is gonna be a shrugyeet i'd rather yeet someone who is hardly playing., and i don't think there are any convincing cases on the stronger players rn (except manti, who i in fact would still be happy to yeet)

[Visor]

Players Votes

Gemma 4 (Ladd, sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, insomnia)
Syn 3 (Didistetter, ColonelLubriderm, Newcomb)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Gemma)
EnderWiggin 2 (nebjiamn, dyachei)
Sunbae 1 (Jan)
sheepsaysmeep 1 (Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (grr)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)

whatthistextdo


lubriderm et al, please make sure to vote with the colon

i.e. Vote:

this is what i got rn

[didistetter]

Villagers

Knights

Stett
Maple
Newcomb

Benneh

Cobalt (still need to recheck)
Ladd
Bopolis
Dyachei
Sheep

People I got good vibes from on my skin today but need to reread more thoroughly before I move them to villagers

Enderwiggen
Vanta

No read/head empty

Arctic
Sunbae
Raskol
Wisdom
Mont
Sun
Insomnia
Grr

Wolverines

Jan
Gemma
theknightsofneeee which vanta post gave you good vibes?

[Gemma]

ladd might always just be a wolf



Well, from what I've read you're one of the closest players to a consensus TR, and the quoted post would have been very audacious as mafia.



Hmm. Well, back in the day, most games were flipless and/or mountainous, so you could even see like 2 mafia against 30 or 40 players. I'm not sure even the most hardcore on MU go for 40% Mafia? That would be a team of 8 or 9 here, meaning instant Maf victory after as few as 2 MLs in a row.

yooooo welcome in boss

[theknightsofneeee]

If im being honest with myself I think I would start pushin sunbae here normally because he has been hella underwhelming and has done nothing villagers in the slightest but a) I love sunbae and don’t want to lynch him day 1, and b) I think everyone else feels the same way.

So im just gonna commit to giving him a day pass but that courtesy ends tomorrow

[ColonelLubriderm]

Players Votes

Gemma 4 (Ladd, sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, insomnia)
Syn 3 (Didistetter, ColonelLubriderm, Newcomb)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Gemma)
EnderWiggin 2 (nebjiamn, dyachei)
Sunbae 1 (Jan)
sheepsaysmeep 1 (Syn)
Raskolnikov 1 (grr)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)

whatthistextdo


lubriderm et al, please make sure to vote with the colon

i.e. Vote:

this is what i got rn

there is so much i can do with my colon but voting is not in the cards, ask again in the morning after i had my dunkins

vote: syn

[ladd]

If im being honest with myself I think I would start pushin sunbae here normally because he has been hella underwhelming and has done nothing villagers in the slightest but a) I love sunbae and don’t want to lynch him day 1, and b) I think everyone else feels the same way.

So im just gonna commit to giving him a day pass but that courtesy ends tomorrow

i dont really get how you can say sunbae has been hella underwhelming and have benneh in your top villa reads?


also isnt eod in 1 hour and 12 minutes? if its in 2 hours i am gonna go to sleep now cause i cba to stay awake 2 more hours

[Montmorency]

Visor, is it 9 or 10 PM ET?

[Visor]

It's 9pm dunno why that's off an hour but I'll adjust the timer

[Gemma]

the way isos work here makes me wanna selfvote and go play chess or something. so i go to advance thread search, enter the user name, click the search button, and then i still have to click every single post if i want to see the quotes is this real life?

go to gameroom, then click on "replies: 1,064" or whatever the number is for the game thread, it'll pull up a popup window with all usernames, click on the user u want to iso, it takes u to their profile, click find latest posts

or alternatively skip half the steps and just go to their profile then click find latest posts

grr

[Visor]

Fucking daylight savings

[Newcomb]

If im being honest with myself I think I would start pushin sunbae here normally because he has been hella underwhelming and has done nothing villagers in the slightest but a) I love sunbae and don’t want to lynch him day 1, and b) I think everyone else feels the same way.

So im just gonna commit to giving him a day pass but that courtesy ends tomorrow

honestly the best thing you could do here is push Sunbae; I need to see you do something that's a) focused and b) not defending yourself. doesn't matter if it's unlikely to go through D1. never too early to get that cred yknow?

[theknightsofneeee]

vote: ColonelLubriderm

I'll bet you want a reason for this vote. Vibes thing. Earlier when I wasn't at a keyboard I read a little on mobile (which is dire) and saw some posts that pinged me, and I will look for them.

Also someone somewhere in this thread asked people with townread on Jan to explain that tr. It's early but I thought the tarot readings were pretty relaxed and town-leaning. I have since seen some players say Jan is easily capable of faking that relaxed vibe and I guess I have to believe them, and also it's probably a dumb reason to tr someone. But there it is. (I have played 1 game with Jan, which is 1 more than I have played with most of you here.)


It was first the tarot readings, then some content. Vibes. It seemed natural. Whereas Col.Lubr. looked like trying for relaxed, and then if there was content I missed it.

Also you can't really say "tarot readings had nothing to do with the game" in a game called Tarot Mafia.

Sure

WRT vanta I liked both of these posts a lot, and while I disagree with pretty much all of the conclusions reached, these seem like pretty fine level 1 villa reads and there isn’t anything wolfy in their iso, they are just not very active.

Seems like a decent shot to be a low impact villager

[Montmorency]

yooooo welcome in boss

You recruiting?!

[Gemma]

If im being honest with myself I think I would start pushin sunbae here normally because he has been hella underwhelming and has done nothing villagers in the slightest but a) I love sunbae and don’t want to lynch him day 1, and b) I think everyone else feels the same way.

So im just gonna commit to giving him a day pass but that courtesy ends tomorrow

no use word lynch

bad word

say yeet/elim/etc

[EnderWiggin]

I am busy/workin and haven't caught up but I'm here for eod.

Likelihood of me reading things since my last post:
Not 0 but not high.

[Gemma]

You recruiting?!

i'm always recruiting babny

[theknightsofneeee]

i dont really get how you can say sunbae has been hella underwhelming and have benneh in your top villa reads?


also isnt eod in 1 hour and 12 minutes? if its in 2 hours i am gonna go to sleep now cause i cba to stay awake 2 more hours

As an unintentional theme this game, I am really valuing people getting hung up on things I think are super villagers to get hung up on.

Benneh getting hung up on the wisdom(?) stuff about didistetter was pretty villagers and his tone has been really good.

Sure he’s low quantity of content but he’s not being actively wolfy, and sunbae has been just as low content, but hasn’t had a shining moment of billageriness that I usually get/feel from villa sunbae.

He is LACKING.

[dyachei]

god damn it

I was thinking in the shower I didn't like my vote on ender and considering who to vote and dismissing both knights and gemma as counters because knights is always wolfy and so is gemma. So i was like, you know, i'm reconsidering my stance on syn, I'll go vote them because there's not much pressure there. Then i come online and see like 4 votes for syn

vote: syn

[Montmorency]

no use word lynch

bad word

say yeet/elim/etc

Or "oust."

Well, OK, do me soon.

[Arctic]

Arctic talk to me about the bolded pls?

the way dya has responded to pressure feels more in line with their town game. don't really feel like going into detail. sunbae's soulread on dya is probably accurate or TMI imo. if sunbae is a wolf the framing of that post is clearly done for towncred so it's more likely to be TMI

bop i think has just had consistently good solving/thoughts. i think he's the best example of someone trying to shake up the game in a meaningful way - while i don't agree with his push on wisdom i think there are easier targets for a wolf to go for and i think he believes on it enough. and the way he came to that read (and his knights read) felt like genuine "aha" moments when he remembered oddly specific thing (referring to when he said "i might decide to tunnel knights"). generally good vibes too

i liked insomnia's early posts particularly the depth of thought he went into esp on stuff like the dya thing. and imo there's evidence of genuine solving like how he went back to the sheep explanation post and called out parts of it after he had already taken a stance on sheep looking fine and knights looking bad. separately i don't think he takes the angle he's taken today on the stronger players having wolves and feigning frustration at that. cuz that isn't really gonna be tenable if the consensus is correct
i suppose there is a world where like, if the consensus is wrong then he's leveraging TMI of that being the case to set up pushes on the stronger players for "being wrong" without actually committing to it today. but this kinda doesn't mean much because in that world his partners would also be stronger players and i don't think he'd want to be sewing those seeds early on

probably not a great reason for ladd and i'm doubting it recently - but i've like. melded with him on most things and have felt like he's had occasional odd/quirky towny thoughts a wolf wouldn't think of (i cant really be bothered to find examples rn but im not defending this read anymore so w/e). i see the concerns floated about him and i don't really disagree with them

[theknightsofneeee]

Fuck lacking was supposed to be in italics

Now the whole post is ruined :tomato:

[ladd]

god damn it

I was thinking in the shower I didn't like my vote on ender and considering who to vote and dismissing both knights and gemma as counters because knights is always wolfy and so is gemma. So i was like, you know, i'm reconsidering my stance on syn, I'll go vote them because there's not much pressure there. Then i come online and see like 4 votes for syn

vote: syn

villagery post

[Arctic]

i would be more motivated to iso people if it wasn't hell to do so. probably. like i think i should re-visit ladd/jan/syn specifically

and i've just realized i forgot to explain syn - from memory his posts were an improvement from the last game he played here where he was a wolf cuz he actually started holding multiple wolfreads and forming a worldview rather than just pushing one guy. and rask, the guy who immediately caught him in that game, thinks he's town here. so even tho i am a little concerned about him dropping off the face of the earth (he kinda did this last game) i kinda wanna respect rask's read

[didistetter]

god damn it

I was thinking in the shower I didn't like my vote on ender and considering who to vote and dismissing both knights and gemma as counters because knights is always wolfy and so is gemma. So i was like, you know, i'm reconsidering my stance on syn, I'll go vote them because there's not much pressure there. Then i come online and see like 4 votes for syn

vote: syn

this post kinda stresses me out but idek if i sr it or not

[Gemma]

Nothing.

The last 2 games (on here) people wanted my read on gemma because they had trouble getting a grip on her.

The playerbase is not all that different but nobody has asked me till now.
I don't think my gemma read is good. I was wrong the last time around.
Mostly because she told me she was keen to rand wolf and then played a fairly low-effort/underwhelming wolf game.

I dislike knights making gemma his 2nd best wolf pick because it is the counterwagon and feels easy.

I have a very different vote in the back of my head but I just got back and want to get up to date and doublecheck a post before I actually use my god given power.

bro i wanted the wolf rand so bad this game

i think it comes in waves tbh

[dyachei]

this post kinda stresses me out but idek if i sr it or not

why does it stress you out?

[ladd]

i would be more motivated to iso people if it wasn't hell to do so. probably. like i think i should re-visit ladd/jan/syn specifically

and i've just realized i forgot to explain syn - from memory his posts were an improvement from the last game he played here where he was a wolf cuz he actually started holding multiple wolfreads and forming a worldview rather than just pushing one guy. and rask, the guy who immediately caught him in that game, thinks he's town here. so even tho i am a little concerned about him dropping off the face of the earth (he kinda did this last game) i kinda wanna respect rask's read

i agree his posting here is better (but honestly not by that much imo?) but i dont really think he has really presented an organic world view besides posting a reads list not explained

his only push afaict has been sheep for not better identified reasons


speaking of sheep, i am curious where people are at with them with the day ending

[dyachei]

i agree his posting here is better (but honestly not by that much imo?) but i dont really think he has really presented an organic world view besides posting a reads list not explained

his only push afaict has been sheep for not better identified reasons


speaking of sheep, i am curious where people are at with them with the day ending

i dont really like sheep and dont really get why other people do. i dont really think he's moving the game forward

[EnderWiggin]

Syn counterwagon eod gives me eepies.

[ColonelLubriderm]

i agree his posting here is better (but honestly not by that much imo?) but i dont really think he has really presented an organic world view besides posting a reads list not explained

his only push afaict has been sheep for not better identified reasons


speaking of sheep, i am curious where people are at with them with the day ending

post 814

[ColonelLubriderm]

for a tldr; 96 hours and 53 minutes til reckoning

[EnderWiggin]

i agree his posting here is better (but honestly not by that much imo?) but i dont really think he has really presented an organic world view besides posting a reads list not explained

his only push afaict has been sheep for not better identified reasons


speaking of sheep, i am curious where people are at with them with the day ending


i dont really like sheep and dont really get why other people do. i dont really think he's moving the game forward

Sheep is town fight me.

[Newcomb]

Syn counterwagon eod gives me eepies.

you should probably do something about that then

[Gemma]

I aim to please. (I called it a forced read for a reason because no one is explaining their vreads on you very well so I was trying to find reasons they might actually think you are a villager, because the reasons being presented to me looked like nothing to me lol. It's not actually my read.)

because of how over the top he was about the breadth and girth of his gamestate read

he's not a scary wolf dw about it

[Arctic]

I’d argue I haven’t been wolfy and people (like Newcomb) who are voting me don’t really have a reason to vote me so much as they are just apathetic to the lynch

But there have been a distinct lack of people defending me this game, and at this point almost half the game has said they would consider me for a lunch, which should mean something wrt my alignment in a game of this small size and with a player base as strong as this.

Consensus targets in a stacked game like this are almost always villagers because the wolves are able to make a convincing argument to lynch a villager, and the villagers are also strong villagers who just happen to be wrong, but believe it.

And I have in no way had a ‘crash out obvious day 1 wolf game’ (I definitely have had those before lol) so the fact that it’s been pretty obvious that people were gestating up the ability to vote on me for most the day should really speak volumes.

on the bolded - isn't the implication there that you are mafia?

i dunno i guess there's two ways of looking at it. if no one is defending someone it might mean they are a wolf cuz nobody townreads them. but it might mean they are town cuz wolves would be trying to save them. but tbc there are some people defending you just nobody is really going hard about it. which is understandable, and the lack of a hard defence of you doesn't really help me parse your alignment because if you are a wolf i don't think your posting has been good enough for your teammates to get away with doing that without outting themselves because clearly wolf!you has an expiration date. i think the more likely thing is they'd push someone else out instead, which, i suppose might be a point in your favour because it doesn't really feel like that's been happening, except maybe on gemma

[Montmorency]

i would be more motivated to iso people if it wasn't hell to do so. probably. like i think i should re-visit ladd/jan/syn specifically

and i've just realized i forgot to explain syn - from memory his posts were an improvement from the last game he played here where he was a wolf cuz he actually started holding multiple wolfreads and forming a worldview rather than just pushing one guy. and rask, the guy who immediately caught him in that game, thinks he's town here. so even tho i am a little concerned about him dropping off the face of the earth (he kinda did this last game) i kinda wanna respect rask's read

Aren't you just saying that out of French solidarity? :verycool:



Here's how I see this EOD.

Knights convinced me he's not a good candidate for today.

Syn's wagon seems relatively trustworthy. Syn does have a history of getting outed quick by meta-havers. But the Rask note (I haven't reached it?) is troubling.

Gemma is the player I have the strongest negative opinion on, but it's almost like low-null. I can't think of anything worthy about the voters.

Few thoughts about anyone else.

I'll do the right thing.

[theknightsofneeee]

Just went through cobalts iso and still like 95% of it, only minor ping I got was this post


I'm not really worried about a singular vote from someone who is pretty townread at this point because I'm fairly confident you'll be able to look elsewhere.

Idk where you're going with this post. I don't feel some typa way about you voting me at all. Do you babes.

Because I distinctly remember villa cobalt being pretty sensitive to getting pushed/voted (to the point that cobalt blasted me day 1 on anni when I was a wolf for doing so)

Obviously that’s a mash and this is a small game, and that was a couple years ago and play styles change, but just pinged me that the dismissive stuff here could be an act.

For the most part I agree with almost every read cobalt gave, and the vibes are still good

[EnderWiggin]

you should probably do something about that then

I mean my defense is "Rask has been catching Syn for months on D1 and has them as a townread" and that just feels bad as a defense.

Also Knights said they'd look into Cobalt for me and has done ~nothing despite me reaching out and trying to take their Jan read at face value and assume them town for a moment. Which honestly feels kinda bad.

I acknowledge the "Laptop on fire" defense, but I feel like that came wayyyyy later after my initial dialogue. (I even just ISO'd Knights just now to make sure.)

[EnderWiggin]

The irony of Knights making a post about Cobalt and ninja'ing my comment calling them out for not doing that is hilarious.

[Arctic]

I made a case on why I think Jan is a wolf, and I’m voting him, that should be obvious.

WRT maple (mantichora) I think his fixation on grr for like 10 posts and wanting to kill the fuck out of him, and then eventually realizing what I think every one else knew from the outset that it was probably just a weird post and NAI, was super villagers and something I have done in the past as a villager. Sometimes you think you caught someone and you have to slowly realize it was probably nothing and move on.

The only reason I didn't criticize that post was because my understanding was that you were framing it as a "jan is being townread for bad reasons" thing and not a wolfcase, but i kind of have an issue if you're framing it as the latter pretty much because of what Newcomb said, it mostly felt like generic statements and IIOA to suggest that jan shouldn't be townread - but how is this a wolfcase?


Well formatting just lost all my multi quotes for my Jan iso RIP.

Just imagine a bunch of amazing supporting quotes thanks.




Just reread Jan’s iso

First 10 posts or so are just shitposting with the flavor of the game (for most would be NAI, but Jan is >rand village when he is shitposting IME)

But important caveat is there are a ton of people Jan knows pretty well in the game, which makes him faking shitposting easier.

Almost completely devoid of content until 15 posts or so in, says cobalt is unlikely to be a wolf but we should tickle them later for a post I think is pretty villagery for cobalt.

Questions a villa read on Gemma by stett

And then just drops a massive read list on the thread with almost no explanation for reads.

Classic wolf formula, and his tone being decent is the only thing that really gives me doubt on my wolf read here.

(On second thought, I think there is a decent chance if he was a wolf he would have pushed me earlier instead of just leaving me in null)



Not much to villa read, can people who are villa reading Jan please explain?

[didistetter]

why does it stress you out?

idk it felt a lil overexplainy as a "rejoining thread and hopping on bandwagon" post

[Gemma]

I will say my heart is not really in the knights thing either; it was mostly that he racked up enough generic wolf tell type things that it was like, well, smoke, fire? But it's not a very personal bespoke push that I can get excited about

didnt u say 65 that's a very strong wolfread unless u meant 65 to be v

[EnderWiggin]

Just went through cobalts iso and still like 95% of it, only minor ping I got was this post



Because I distinctly remember villa cobalt being pretty sensitive to getting pushed/voted (to the point that cobalt blasted me day 1 on anni when I was a wolf for doing so)

Obviously that’s a mash and this is a small game, and that was a couple years ago and play styles change, but just pinged me that the dismissive stuff here could be an act.

For the most part I agree with almost every read cobalt gave, and the vibes are still good

Can you point at two reads that you strongly agree with from em and why?

[ladd]

Just went through cobalts iso and still like 95% of it, only minor ping I got was this post



Because I distinctly remember villa cobalt being pretty sensitive to getting pushed/voted (to the point that cobalt blasted me day 1 on anni when I was a wolf for doing so)

Obviously that’s a mash and this is a small game, and that was a couple years ago and play styles change, but just pinged me that the dismissive stuff here could be an act.

For the most part I agree with almost every read cobalt gave, and the vibes are still good

uh what reads cobalt gave you agree with?

cobalt gave:

- artic and sunbea villa reads--> you villa read neitehr of them

- sheep wolf read --> you villa read them

- stett/newcomb v reads --> ok you have these

- wisdom wolf read --> you have no read on them



if i read their iso and was you i def wouldnt say i agree with their reads

[Jan]

i agree his posting here is better (but honestly not by that much imo?) but i dont really think he has really presented an organic world view besides posting a reads list not explained

his only push afaict has been sheep for not better identified reasons


speaking of sheep, i am curious where people are at with them with the day ending

you judge syn on how snarky he is. you know that.

he was dennis the menace in cereal killer as villa and ghandi in saints and sinners as wolf.

I just left my fucking bed reread 3 of his games which I was too lazy to do until you idiots started forming a wagon this late in the day. (and apparently nobody else does the legwork)

And he is not as snarky as he was before but more than he was a wolf. which is frustrating.
I would kill rask before I kill syn because Rask has called syn lock villa somewhat early and I don't think rask as villa would be wrong.

In that weird world the team is syn/rask/wisdom + whoever. I am not confident on that, but it is possible?

While at a PC for a moment:



Sure he’s low quantity of content but he’s not being actively wolfy, and sunbae has been just as low content, but hasn’t had a shining moment of billageriness that I usually get/feel from villa sunbae.

He is LACKING.

this take is actually bad. sunbae stopped posting because he was topposter and actually had some fine solving post in the last 24 hours.
both in absolute post as well as in % sunbae is way above ben in content. it is just not a good take.

[Arctic]

its spooky cause you are building up to this big bad ladd narrative but voting against someone that is clearly never paired with me

your reasons for suspecting me are terrible btw

did i ever say you were repping me/newcomb w/w? Idr it, i just remember you posting a villa list that did not have either me and newcomb and i told you that newcomb is an easy add



Newcomb syn was a wolf in their last game here and was def worse but i also think they are worse here than their vila games...so inconclusive. If it helps you give a baseline they are generally a snarky villager with fairly confident reads who makes a lot 1 liners

...another meld with ladd (kinda)

also i was about to ask about syn towngames because stett didnt seem impressed but yeah now i dont really know what to do if their play here is between their town and wolfgames

[EnderWiggin]

Talking of "Mindmelding reads that people hate"

I actually really like Ladd picking the exact same thing to question out of Knight's response.

[Arctic]

mostly folk v read them or don't wolf read them and i dont care enough to campaign for it

i'd vote him lol

[didistetter]

Vote: theknightsofneeee

:7fortuneteller:

totally def not opportunistically changing course and joining a wagon b/c he's postly poorly atm.

nah. i actually dont like his eod so far. feels kinda scrambly in a non-town way, and his focuses are odd

[Newcomb]

didnt u say 65 that's a very strong wolfread unless u meant 65 to be v

65% is not a very strong wolfread IMO. At least by my own personal metric. Idk pick a number, "barely above a coinflip" is what I'm feeling. And yes I recognize statistically a coinflip is actually a decent wolfread.

If you're calling back to the "Newcomb is good for one wolf a game" thing, this ain't it. This is way more of a shrug than a slam dunk.

Also people should start watching their posts; think I'm at like 10 or so to cap and a few others are ahead of me.

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote: raskolnikov

[EnderWiggin]

vote: raskolnikov

That is a wild left field.

[ladd]

honestly my main takeaway from latter half of the day is that bop/artic are villas

i'd be surprised if this list isnt pure:

ladd
newcomb
stett
artic
bop
grrr
jan

could even add dya and it probablyyyy remains pure



not sure i like what knights is doing this eod sadly

[Jan]

vote: raskolnikov

vote: raskolnikov

[Gemma]

uh what reads cobalt gave you agree with?

cobalt gave:

- artic and sunbea villa reads--> you villa read neitehr of them

- sheep wolf read --> you villa read them

- stett/newcomb v reads --> ok you have these

- wisdom wolf read --> you have no read on them



if i read their iso and was you i def wouldnt say i agree with their reads

who do you want to yeet today ladd

[theknightsofneeee]

uh what reads cobalt gave you agree with?

cobalt gave:

- artic and sunbea villa reads--> you villa read neitehr of them

- sheep wolf read --> you villa read them

- stett/newcomb v reads --> ok you have these

- wisdom wolf read --> you have no read on them



if i read their iso and was you i def wouldnt say i agree with their reads

I was def more focused on the stett/newcomb reads because those were the reads I remembered cobalt making when I first v read them.

Especially the way they interacted with stett felt good in the moment (obviously I have my one reservation I just gave but the rest was good)

Obviously people I have no opinion on I’m probably not gonna agree with/disagree with a read on very strongly, unless it’s given for what feel like bad reasons, and cobalts weren’t.

Sheep wolf read is something I disagree on for sure but I liked the reason because iirc it was because sheep was weird about some opening posts for didi and myself? And I thought cobalts pushing there was villagers. Obviously my read on sheep has evolved so I disagree with the read now but I think the thought process was fine.


All in all cobalt is low posting but I see the villagery line of engagement.

And I believe when cobalt said they would be shitting bricks wolfing in this player list.

[ColonelLubriderm]

That is a wild left field.

jan said hed do rasko before syn; though i think he meant it more as he'd do neither but if one were to go down that path go rasko first;

so im going rasko first;

i think im at like 72 so im only going to post votes from here out if i feel its neccessary

[Gemma]

65% is not a very strong wolfread IMO. At least by my own personal metric. Idk pick a number, "barely above a coinflip" is what I'm feeling. And yes I recognize statistically a coinflip is actually a decent wolfread.

If you're calling back to the "Newcomb is good for one wolf a game" thing, this ain't it. This is way more of a shrug than a slam dunk.

Also people should start watching their posts; think I'm at like 10 or so to cap and a few others are ahead of me.

no i just mean 75 is rand so 65 w 35 v is a long way off that

[Newcomb]

not sure i like what knights is doing this eod sadly

yeah I have to agree; I was looking for fire I got business as usual.

Them doubling down on Jan being a wolfred after that weak ass case is not a great look

i'm fine going there im gonna hang on a syn for a while though, I really don't like the ISO. I am taking meta into account but especially when it's double unknown meta - like I don't really know rask and I don't really know syn - I just can't give it much weight.

[theknightsofneeee]

you judge syn on how snarky he is. you know that.

he was dennis the menace in cereal killer as villa and ghandi in saints and sinners as wolf.

I just left my fucking bed reread 3 of his games which I was too lazy to do until you idiots started forming a wagon this late in the day. (and apparently nobody else does the legwork)

And he is not as snarky as he was before but more than he was a wolf. which is frustrating.
I would kill rask before I kill syn because Rask has called syn lock villa somewhat early and I don't think rask as villa would be wrong.

In that weird world the team is syn/rask/wisdom + whoever. I am not confident on that, but it is possible?

While at a PC for a moment:



this take is actually bad. sunbae stopped posting because he was topposter and actually had some fine solving post in the last 24 hours.
both in absolute post as well as in % sunbae is way above ben in content. it is just not a good take.

Maybe it’s a me problem


But you could have told me sunbae had 20 posts and I would have believed you.

He has had next to no impact.

Compare that to newcomb who has had two wagons materialize just by making somewhat average cases on myself/syn and it’s pretty obvious why I think sunbae is lacking.

:shrug:

[EnderWiggin]

yeah I have to agree; I was looking for fire I got business as usual.

Unfortunately their Laptop stole all the fire.

[dyachei]

i can't really win here. I don't elaborate a ton on my thoughts, I get told I'm utr. I share my exact thought process and am told it's overexplainy

stett, it was literally what I thought about right before hopping on and I caught up first

[Gemma]

Vote: theknightsofneeee

:7fortuneteller:

totally def not opportunistically changing course and joining a wagon b/c he's postly poorly atm.

nah. i actually dont like his eod so far. feels kinda scrambly in a non-town way, and his focuses are odd

https://media.tenor.com/bxSDL9y3kjcAAAAM/owl-no-way.gif

[ladd]

https://media.giphy.com/media/51Uiuy5QBZNkoF3b2Z/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611efazibl48vnkvtbuxt4eaypt3dh3x8shlb1m088m&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif


who do you want to yeet today ladd

anyone that i dont villa read


if i am alive on d2 i will dive into the strange case of the manti villareads cause i swear every iso i open has manti as top villa and my confusion just keeps increasing lmao

[Arctic]

ngl just based on what knights seems to think is AI / worth pushing i think i would be wolfreading his eod here regardless of his alignment just based on playstyle stuff i'm predisposed to not gelling with

so i'm trying to weigh this in even though i don't particularly like his eod either

[EnderWiggin]

Re: Sunbae

I kinda think they're wolfier than not myself. Though I'm not pursuing this rn because:
1. Too late
2. I want to give Sunbae a bit of time because when we HAVE been t/t (on the rare cases) it's been a vibe. And a lack of that D1 doesn't necessarily mean they're wolf.

But Sunbae coming in with "We gotta work together!!!" when sentiment finally shifted towards sussing them feels like damage control imo. When they haven't shown any of that sentiment before they got sussed.

Definitely something I want to revisit tomorrow and (hopefully) have time in thread with them instead of being the ships passing timezones.

[Gemma]

https://media.giphy.com/media/51Uiuy5QBZNkoF3b2Z/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611efazibl48vnkvtbuxt4eaypt3dh3x8shlb1m088m&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif



anyone that i dont villa read


if i am alive on d2 i will dive into the strange case of the manti villareads cause i swear every iso i open has manti as top villa and my confusion just keeps increasing lmao

ok well your case on me is mega dooky and i'll be annoyed if the masses conglomerate on me because of it

[theknightsofneeee]

Sigh

I shouldn’t have to ATE or appeal to having to phone posting in order for you guys to not kill me here.

I’m posting somewhat obviously genuine thoughts here.

If I were a wolf my worldview would be more coherent and have a plan.

I somewhat obviously don’t have one.

People keep saying they don’t like me being defensive but until recently I was a lead wagon, I obviously have to respond to stuff, so deal with it.

[Maple]

Stopped posting cause i realized i was almost at cap, however have a bit of bad timing right nbow which is making posting awkward anyway

love that for me

[EnderWiggin]

Oh and Sunbae brushing my comments off with "Can't be OMGUS I never voted you" when they were 99% of the start of sus on me and other people springboarded off that leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. Especially since they completely ignored my refutation of their reasoning.

Yes, yes, this is a distraction when I don't wanna push this at EOD but I wanted to post while I had the thoughts and before I inevitably forget the details.

[Gemma]

Stopped posting cause i realized i was almost at cap, however have a bit of bad timing right nbow which is making posting awkward anyway

love that for me

cap is lifted for eod

[Newcomb]

Compare that to newcomb who has had two wagons materialize just by making somewhat average cases on myself/syn

i'm special tho :v


i can't really win here. I don't elaborate a ton on my thoughts, I get told I'm utr. I share my exact thought process and am told it's overexplainy

stett, it was literally what I thought about right before hopping on and I caught up first

i think you could win by not interpreting what people are saying as slights against you but moreso as their own very filtered, personal perception of another slot's subjective feel in the thread, and just go on doing your thing without lampshading how you feel your slot is being treated. you do you though I don't wanna poke the cactus


Unfortunately their Laptop stole all the fire.

ho ho ho ho hooooly shit that's mean I love it

Saving my last few posts for vote switching. I'm okay with knights or syn. I'd shed a tear for gemma and don't personally think that's a hit in my gut but I can't throw down the townshield, I don't feel it like that.

o/

[EnderWiggin]

https://media.giphy.com/media/51Uiuy5QBZNkoF3b2Z/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611efazibl48vnkvtbuxt4eaypt3dh3x8shlb1m088m&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif



anyone that i dont villa read


if i am alive on d2 i will dive into the strange case of the manti villareads cause i swear every iso i open has manti as top villa and my confusion just keeps increasing lmao

Ngl I have negative viewpoint on Manti. I should probably fix that at some point.

[Gemma]

idek what the votal is

[ColonelLubriderm]

if cap isn\t actually lifted and gemma posts that as a heads up play to get a bunch of villas to kill themselves i would have so much respect for them

even moreso if they are a villa with the same intent

[Arctic]

Sigh

I shouldn’t have to ATE or appeal to having to phone posting in order for you guys to not kill me here.

I’m posting somewhat obviously genuine thoughts here.

If I were a wolf my worldview would be more coherent and have a plan.

I somewhat obviously don’t have one.

People keep saying they don’t like me being defensive but until recently I was a lead wagon, I obviously have to respond to stuff, so deal with it.

well you didnt really respond to my posts and i dont find your cases convincing so im not really sure what we're supposed to do

i still havent voted yet but i dunno it's prob gonna be you or gemma

[theknightsofneeee]

WRT Jan case

I asked a question on the end for people to interact with what I wrote and explain why they were villa reading Jan, because I honestly didn’t see much to villa read except for tone.

Jan usually falls in the category of somewhat obvious villagers because he has a unique and interesting insight on people/interactions and can be very inquisitive and pressure people hard when he thinks they are wolves.

Very little of that earlier (funnily enough he has started doing that a bit more recently like his post towards me about sunbae so maybe I’m wrong on him, hella awkward)

I also thought his treatment of me was hella wolfy, and he even admitted that he thought it was reasonable for me to wolf read him based on his treatment of me.

[ladd]

cap is lifted for eod

its not

[insomnia]

well. at least 1 of the wagons seems a lot more desperate to die than the other

probably a bad sign :creep:

#wolfydrivebyreads

[theknightsofneeee]

well you didnt really respond to my posts and i dont find your cases convincing so im not really sure what we're supposed to do

i still havent voted yet but i dunno it's prob gonna be you or gemma
Bro it takes time to respond to everyone chill out lmao

[insomnia]

well. at least 1 of the wagons seems a lot more desperate to die than the other

probably a bad sign :creep:

#wolfydrivebyreads

to live* = knights

i do agree his eod is pretty wolfy tho

[EnderWiggin]

cap is lifted for eod

No?

Main post says 75 Per Day. Where does it say lifted cap?

[Gemma]

its not

thats weird

[EnderWiggin]

Bop has 3 posts left
Grr has 5
Stett has 5
Sunbae has 6
Gemma has 7
Manti has 7
Newcomb has 9
Jan has 9
Ladd has 10

Everyone else has over 10

[ColonelLubriderm]

my kingdom for a votecount

when it was knights,syn as 1 and two i was pretty sure the voters of me/dya/stett/newc are super clean, maybe 1 wolf at most but probably 0

i though the knights wagon or third wagon voters looked meh; i forget which one. i was going to make a image with the screenshotted votecount and me writing on it |pure as snow| and |dark forces at work" but i couldnt figure out how to get the text box on the snip tool and i got distracted and forgot about it

[dyachei]

newcomb i'm only going to address this once

the only slight i perceive as against me is you calling me prickly over and over. I think people are assuming I'm more upset than I am about things. I'm not even annoyed at anyone, I just find it funny that I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. My style isn't for everyone, probably not for you, so don't worry, this post will be the last time I address this kind of thing

you however, have done this on multiple occasions and it's not cool.

[ladd]

to live* = knights

i do agree his eod is pretty wolfy tho

i dont get what you mean, explain?

[theknightsofneeee]

Man sometimes I swear everyone just pretends they know how to play this game and is really just throwing darts at a dartboard for their reads.


:wall:

[dyachei]

i dont think knights would be this limp as a wolf. I think he'd be trying harder and i've seen him try harder.

I won't be voting there

[didistetter]

saving my last 4 for votes if need be but:

Wagons:
Gemma (4) Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Insomnia
Theknightsofneeee (3) EnderWiggen, Gemma, Didistetter
Raskolnikov (3) Grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan
Syn (2) Newcomb, dyachei
EnderWiggen (2) nebjiamn, dyachei
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Sheepsaysmeep (1) Syn
ColonelLubriderm (1) Vanta Black
No vote: (4) Arctic, Sunbae, Montmorency, C0balt, Maple


rn gemma is lead wagon, lots of vanities. p sure arctic hasnt voted all day lol. maple at least tried and failed :P

[theknightsofneeee]

i dont think knights would be this limp as a wolf. I think he'd be trying harder and i've seen him try harder.

I won't be voting there

Thanks I think lol

[Montmorency]

Can you point at two reads that you strongly agree with from em and why?

uh what reads cobalt gave you agree with?

Synchronization :14.

Coordination.


Talking of "Mindmelding reads that people hate"

I actually really like Ladd picking the exact same thing to question out of Knight's response.

That's a wrap.


Oh and Sunbae brushing my comments off with "Can't be OMGUS I never voted you" when they were 99% of the start of sus on me and other people springboarded off that leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. Especially since they completely ignored my refutation of their reasoning.

Yes, yes, this is a distraction when I don't wanna push this at EOD but I wanted to post while I had the thoughts and before I inevitably forget the details.

Cool thoughts though.


to live* = knights

i do agree his eod is pretty wolfy tho

Honestly could very well be town.

[ladd]

woow we are a lot more scattered than i thought

[sheepsaysmeep]

hi I might not really be able to be here but I will try a bit

[theknightsofneeee]

Gonna look at raskol/syn real quick and see if I like voting either of them over gemma

Brb

[Gemma]

Man sometimes I swear everyone just pretends they know how to play this game and is really just throwing darts at a dartboard for their reads.


:wall:

i agree but i find it amusing not frustrating

sending hugs

[Visor]

Players Votes

Theknightsofneeee 4 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Gemma, Didistetter)
Gemma 4 (Ladd, sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, insomnia)
Raskolnikov 3 (grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan)
Syn 2 (Newcomb, dyachei)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
sheepsaysmeep 1 (Syn)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)

whatthistextdo

beleive this is corrext

[insomnia]

i dont get what you mean, explain?

i was comparing him to gemma. she doesn't seem to feel the pressure despite having a lot of votes, so if i were to choose one of the two it'd prob be him rn just for that. ik it's not a great reason but im really not into this EoD despite being here

to clarify, i'd prob vote someone else. i see syn is taking off but don't remember a single post of his

[sheepsaysmeep]

saving my last 4 for votes if need be but:

Wagons:
Gemma (4) Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Insomnia
Theknightsofneeee (3) EnderWiggen, Gemma, Didistetter
Raskolnikov (3) Grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan
Syn (2) Newcomb, dyachei
EnderWiggen (2) nebjiamn, dyachei
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Sheepsaysmeep (1) Syn
ColonelLubriderm (1) Vanta Black
No vote: (4) Arctic, Sunbae, Montmorency, C0balt, Maple


rn gemma is lead wagon, lots of vanities. p sure arctic hasnt voted all day lol. maple at least tried and failed :P

probably need to consolidate more

[ladd]

i was comparing him to gemma. she doesn't seem to feel the pressure despite having a lot of votes, so if i were to choose one of the two it'd prob be him rn just for that. ik it's not a great reason but im really not into this EoD despite being here

to clarify, i'd prob vote someone else. i see syn is taking off but don't remember a single post of his

who would you vote?

if you answer me i'll block you :curtain:

[theknightsofneeee]

Gemma you think I’m soldier than both raskol and syn? If so why?

[dyachei]

im on there twice. im not in fact voting ender and syn

[theknightsofneeee]

Soldier = wolfier

[insomnia]

who would you vote?

if you answer me i'll block you :curtain:

i have no clue, im seriously waiting for d2. sorry, lol. really didn't get my teeth into anything i'd feel confident with voting

[Gemma]

saving my last 4 for votes if need be but:

Wagons:
Gemma (4) Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Insomnia
Theknightsofneeee (3) EnderWiggen, Gemma, Didistetter
Raskolnikov (3) Grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan
Syn (2) Newcomb, dyachei
EnderWiggen (2) nebjiamn, dyachei
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Sheepsaysmeep (1) Syn
ColonelLubriderm (1) Vanta Black
No vote: (4) Arctic, Sunbae, Montmorency, C0balt, Maple


rn gemma is lead wagon, lots of vanities. p sure arctic hasnt voted all day lol. maple at least tried and failed :P

ladd's read on me is almost entirely nitpicking and trying to make boring reads sound outing

sheep and wisdom barely wolfread me if at all and haven't posted in half a day or smth and are only voting bc ladd

insom is prob also only voting bc ladd

glgl

[ladd]

man i cant shake the feeling that sheep is just posting to post at times

in all their pop ins they generally just answer/address the most recent thing, feels like they have no broad of thought at all


like in their last pop in they repeated their ender villa read that they had explained already and they answered someone asking why didistetter is a villager thats like the easiest thing in the world for a wolf to latch onto cause they are super obvious


now this consolidate stuff rings hollow

[Gemma]

Gemma you think I’m soldier than both raskol and syn? If so why?

nah i dont

[insomnia]

insom is prob also only voting bc ladd


really lol'd

[Montmorency]

Let's try Vote: Rask

[grr]

reached the point of the phase where i'm doubting everything
well not everything but mostly my townreads on ladd and wisdom

newcomb however i still feel is pretty plainly town, stett explains it pretty well later but i think his wolfgame, from what i've heard, would be more obvious than it is here. i mean i looked at some of it myself and it seems true. i don't really agree with his evaluation of me either but i think that was what stuck out to him the most so i don't blame him for mentioning it if he was only going with short phrases. but to be clear i also liked his approach to vanta and his paranoia on ladd. first felt pro-town and second just felt villagery and unnecessary for a wolf to do cuz i mean if newcomb is a wolf presumably he's using ladd to push knights/sheep who are prob both town in that world and he wouldn't want to break that rapport with ladd. if they're wolves together then it's even more unnecessary

i'm open to hearing you out on wisdom because she doesn't really seem out of character to me - the only real issue i had with her was her first post on Jan but everything else just seems like normal wisdom including all the normal things she gets suspected for

jan i am pretty plainly sheeping people familiar with him - i haven't really found him particularly towny but nothing has pinged me either

i think in a playerlist of this caliber it's unlikely that the consensus yeets end up all being town. if they are i'm gonna look awful for saying this, but like, i think this is something that people forget to consider and it happens a lot in sweaty hydra games on MU where everyone is tryharding and then you get fuppy1 and fuppy 2 saying "omg no guys both wagons are town this is so bad" when most of the time town is just completely on the ball. im not saying that has to be the case here, but statistically speaking there is probably a lower hanging fruit wolf and it doesn't really make sense to go after people like newcomb or jan today when neither have been overtly wolfy and i trust both to be more readable later than like.. gemma, or vanta, or monty guy

to be clear i don't subscribe to giving people day 1 passes for being good. if they are incredibly wolfy then sure fuck it, but if the yeet is gonna be a shrugyeet i'd rather yeet someone who is hardly playing., and i don't think there are any convincing cases on the stronger players rn (except manti, who i in fact would still be happy to yeet)

mostly pinged u cuz i wanted some reassurance that you felt good about these. its frankly just too late for me to look into people seriously now, includign wisdom who i lazily skimmed and feel like gut wolf but shrug lol.

just a meta comment cuz u talked about gemmas readibility gemma was extremely readable in the j-anon game i thought. is their wolfgame that good or something? they took some time to get going but ended up being like, an obvious villager.


anyhow names currently with votes:

Gemma (4)
Theknightsofneeee (3)
Raskolnikov (3)
Syn (2)
EnderWiggen (2)
Jan (1)
Sheepsaysmeep (1)
ColonelLubriderm (1)

Umm. so this is problematic. i somewhat read raskol and i am "ok" voting this as in "could be a randomly a wolf". knights i did v read earlier yall called his eod wolfy idfk its 2am. gemma seemed like, good vibes to me. syn dont fucking know. jan and sheep i have the desire to vote for nebulous reasons i accumulated over the day but i havent read any of their isos and that feels fucked up.

(i wonder how people process it wheni post shit like that. i feel like i could said "ok im leaving gn" and itd be just as enlightening LOL)

[insomnia]

the thing i hate the most about villaging is that you always gotta be the bigger guy if you wanna win or play correctly. it can be so annoying at times lmfao

[Gemma]

Vote: Syn

[dyachei]

idk maybe it's just me but i think sheep is more trying to appear villagery than actually villaging

vote: sheep

[Arctic]

suspiciously early read on me

honestly tinfoiling this as w/w which feels ridiculous but yeah
dunno i still dont really wanna kill rask but maybe id vote syn

[Maple]

ok so:

i think wagons are v/v.

I think knight's been fine, i think gemma's been fine.

people arent gonna want to d1 ladd, benneh, or sunbae even if that group has wolves, which: fair enough.
cobalt gets a d1 pass for having rough irl, again: fair enough.


My TRs:
Arctic
Grr
Newcomb
sheepsaysmeep

Kinda sorta town lean maybe:
Sunbae
Raskolnikov
Jan
Gemma
Enderwiggin
Wisdom
Theknightsofneeee

Everyone else
dyachei
nebjiamn
Ladd
Vanta Black
Insomnia
Syn
ColonelLubriderm
Maple
Montmorency
C0balt

Im sure not having a firm opinion on syn/vanta is revelatory stuff, but I briefly skimmed vanta in saints and syn in cereal killer, and im hard pressed to find them towny so far here in comparison

Bop is kinda odd to me. He’s had some solid posts, but he’s in this weird floaty space where something just feels kinda off? Idk, and I probs wouldn’t vote him till I could verbalize what feels wrong
Maple ngl if its ok its fine if you dont wanna call me stett, but could you maybe do didistetter instead of dist? every time u say dist i read it as
Dysentery

noted i shall attempt to internalize the name

skmming, missing some context, is what it is

[ladd]

vote:sheep

time to have some fun

[theknightsofneeee]

On a brief skim

Rask felt moderately villagery and syn was more null/leaning wolf.

Hmm

[insomnia]

i'd also vote syn over rask, though i haven't read syn

[Maple]

im a free agent with like 4 posts, talk to me

[ladd]

honestly tinfoiling this as w/w which feels ridiculous but yeah
dunno i still dont really wanna kill rask but maybe id vote syn

yea i thought rask was ok in their limited time, i wouldnt kill them

syn i am more cool with dying. i think rask kinda backtracked a little bit on their syn read later in the day too so i wouldnt say syn being a wolf is even outing for rask

4 posts left

[Gemma]

just a meta comment cuz u talked about gemmas readibility gemma was extremely readable in the j-anon game i thought. is their wolfgame that good or something? they took some time to get going but ended up being like, an obvious villager.

i was actually trying / caring that game plus i adore anon games so much

here im just a potato

[Visor]

Players Votes

Raskolnikov 4 (grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan, Montmorency)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Didistetter)
Gemma 3 (sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, insomnia)
sheepsaysmeep 3 (Syn, dyachei, Ladd)
Syn 2 (Newcomb, Gemma)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)

whatthistextdo

[theknightsofneeee]

Wisdom: re Syn. It's just he seems more prone to directly attack people here (ColonelLub, Jan) in his very special way (look the last one lol "looks at my poe

looks at this post

looks at my poe

looks at this post

surely it cannot be ") here, which I associate with his town game.

I feel it's different from last game where he was a woof (it's not impossible he tasked himself with changing his meta but I vibebe with it aorn).

Ladd posted something I missed though ("everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep

not to be confused with sheep") which is a bit odd like. would be very sadge if Syn is wolfing with sheep but lol. Just something to keep in mind for when one of them flips.

Gonna read the knightofneee (I didn't vibe with you TRing Benneh out of vibes pal :curtain:)


fwiw it's either self rambling, or wolfy (like trying to engage with Jan's list without actually speaking about its content, or straight up shading dya/Sunbae)

Like both of these from raskol

[Arctic]

Players Votes

Raskolnikov 4 (grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan, Montmorency)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Didistetter)
Gemma 3 (sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, insomnia)
sheepsaysmeep 3 (Syn, dyachei, Ladd)
Syn 2 (Newcomb, Gemma)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)

whatthistextdo

okay um
at this point im just gonna consolidate on someone so rask doesnt die

i kinda like sheep being an option again though lol

[insomnia]

Vote: Syn

never placed a vote on someone without reading their posts, what an EoD

[Montmorency]

Unvote

[Arctic]

i rlly dont know who to vote
anyone wanna sell me rq

[Visor]

Players Votes

Raskolnikov 3 (grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Didistetter)
Gemma 2 (sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom)
sheepsaysmeep 3 (Syn, dyachei, Ladd)
Syn 3 (insomnia, Newcomb, Gemma)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)


whatthistextdo

[Jan]

Wisdom: re Syn. It's just he seems more prone to directly attack people here (ColonelLub, Jan) in his very special way (look the last one lol "looks at my poe

looks at this post

looks at my poe

looks at this post

surely it cannot be ") here, which I associate with his town game.

I feel it's different from last game where he was a woof (it's not impossible he tasked himself with changing his meta but I vibebe with it aorn).

Ladd posted something I missed though ("everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep

not to be confused with sheep") which is a bit odd like. would be very sadge if Syn is wolfing with sheep but lol. Just something to keep in mind for when one of them flips.

Gonna read the knightofneee (I didn't vibe with you TRing Benneh out of vibes pal :curtain:)

this was rasks last take on syn.

[grr]

Players Votes

Raskolnikov 4 (grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan, Montmorency)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Didistetter)
Gemma 3 (sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, insomnia)
sheepsaysmeep 3 (Syn, dyachei, Ladd)
Syn 2 (Newcomb, Gemma)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)

whatthistextdo

excuse me but whomst the fuck

[Maple]

Don't think it's knights, idk i buy what he's saying

sorry if wrong, i guess

[theknightsofneeee]

Vote: syn

Might still vote Gemma but I like that he actually got off me :3

[ladd]

this was rasks last take on syn.

why are u voting rask?

i thought they were p villagery

[didistetter]

Vote: Syn

[Arctic]

Vote: syn

Might still vote Gemma but I like that he actually got off me :3

umm

[Maple]

vote: Raskolnikov

for now, wagons or something

[grr]

i endorse the sheep wagon in spirit but id rather people vote him who have actually read his posts and not me.

[Jan]

why are u voting rask?

i thought they were p villagery

because I don't think rask is wrong on syn.

it can be w/w or w/v with rask w.
in either world voting rask is better.

if it is v/v either vote is bad.

[theknightsofneeee]

umm

Literally how can you umm this

Idgi

[Arctic]

vote: Raskolnikov

for now, wagons or something

wolf vote lmao

[Visor]

Players Votes

Syn 5 (Newcomb, Gemma, insomnia, Theknightsofneeee, Didistetter)
Raskolnikov 3 (grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan)
sheepsaysmeep 3 (Syn, dyachei, Ladd)
Theknightsofneeee 2 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov)
Gemma 2 (sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)


whatthistextdo

[ladd]

because I don't think rask is wrong on syn.

it can be w/w or w/v with rask w.
in either world voting rask is better.

if it is v/v either vote is bad.

but there is other wagons why are those 2 the only options? idgi

[Arctic]

vote: Syn

dunno but im just saving rask siw

[grr]

ok im glad im on a vanity wagon pls keep it that way you guys are probably wrong but thats better than me being wrong gl and gn.

[Jan]

vote: gemma

[Maple]

vote: syn

hammer

[Gemma]

ehhhhh

[Arctic]

i doubt this is a hit cuz gemma and knights prob aren't pure and all of a sudden they both forgot they were fighting each other and converged here so.. yea

[theknightsofneeee]

because I don't think rask is wrong on syn.

it can be w/w or w/v with rask w.
in either world voting rask is better.

if it is v/v either vote is bad.

Is this a thing?
Are their reads that good?

[Visor]

Players Votes

Syn 7 (Newcomb, Gemma, insomnia, Theknightsofneeee, Didistetter, Arctic, Maple)
Raskolnikov 2 (grr, ColonelLubriderm)
sheepsaysmeep 3 (Syn, dyachei, Ladd)
Theknightsofneeee 2 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov)
Gemma 3 (sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Jan)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)

whatthistextdo

[Montmorency]

Hopefully the info

Please remember me Gemma

[Visor]

10 minutes for corrections, pm/dm for any changes needed

[Visor]

Syn was killed.

They were:


Judgement

https://i.imgur.com/gwtk6d4.jpeg

They were mafia!

24 hours for night., Night orders due 7pm, so 22 hours for night orders.

whatthistextdo


Obviously do NOT post at night, thanks.

[Visor]

N1 Update in Spoiler:

Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

Do not post until 9pm EDT.

https://i.imgur.com/MTGjy7I.png

Post numbers as of EOD1.

[Visor]

REAL N1 Results:

Newcomb was killed.

They were:


The Sun

https://i.imgur.com/TJmIHHm.jpeg

They were village!

-----

Sheepsaysmeep was killed.

They were:


Justice

https://i.imgur.com/KcTfXtc.jpeg

They were village!

--

48 hours for day.

whatthistextdo


Don't post till 9pm EDT.

[Visor]

Effective immediately, Dolby is replacing C0balt.


Alive: (19/22)
1. dyachei
2. Arctic
3. Didistetter
4. Vanta Black
5. nebjiamn
6. Sunbae
7. Raskolnikov
8. Ladd
9. Jan
10. Gemma
11. grr
12. EnderWiggin
13. insomnia
14. Wisdom
16. ColonelLubriderm
18. Maple
19. Montmorency
20. Theknightsofneeee
21. Dolby (formerly C0balt)


Dead: (3/22)
15. Syn, mafia.
22. sheepsaysmeep, village.
17. Newcomb, village.

You may post.

[Raskolnikov]

:curtain:

[grr]

vote history if that helps anyone, hopefully no errors:


VoterVoted forPost
GemmaRaskol#7 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856840&viewfull=1#post2053856840)
theknightsofneeeedyachei#16 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856849&viewfull=1#post2053856849)
sheepsaysmeeptheknightsofneeee#63 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856849&viewfull=1#post2053856849)
didistetterC0balt#65 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856898&viewfull=1#post2053856898)
didistettersheepsaysmeep#68 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856901&viewfull=1#post2053856901)
didistetterC0balt#80 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856913&viewfull=1#post2053856913)
WisdomRaskolnikov#95 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856928&viewfull=1#post2053856928)
sheepsaysmeepWisdom#142 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053856975&viewfull=1#post2053856975)
grrNewcomb#197 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857030&viewfull=1#post2053857030)
EnderwigginJan#211 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857044&viewfull=1#post2053857044)
Enderwiggintheknightsofneeee#228 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857061&viewfull=1#post2053857061)
didistetternebjiamn#248 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857081&viewfull=1#post2053857081)
Synsheepsaysmeep#386 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857219&viewfull=1#post2053857219)
Raskolnikovtheknightsofneeee#435 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857268&viewfull=1#post2053857268)
theknightsofneeeeJan#486 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857319&viewfull=1#post2053857319)
insomniadyachei#620 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857453&viewfull=1#post2053857453)
GemmaVanta#636 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857469&viewfull=1#post2053857469)
Newcombtheknightsofneeee#659 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857492&viewfull=1#post2053857492)
nebjiamnenderwiggin#668 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857501&viewfull=1#post2053857501)
didistetterC0balt#673 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857506&viewfull=1#post2053857506)
sheepsaysmeepGemma#715 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857548&viewfull=1#post2053857548)
WisdomGemma#716 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857549&viewfull=1#post2053857549)
Vanta_BlackColonelLubriderm#725 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857558&viewfull=1#post2053857558)
Gemmainsomnia#767 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857600&viewfull=1#post2053857600)
dyacheienderwiggin#792 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857625&viewfull=1#post2053857625)
Gemmatheknightsofneeee#822 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857655&viewfull=1#post2053857655)
ColonelLubridermWisdom#824 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857657&viewfull=1#post2053857657)
didistetterladd#828 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857661&viewfull=1#post2053857661)
MapleGemma#858 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857691&viewfull=1#post2053857691)
JanSunbae#868 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857701&viewfull=1#post2053857701)
grrSunbae#870 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857703&viewfull=1#post2053857703)
grrRaskolnikov#906 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857739&viewfull=1#post2053857739)
insomniaGemma#1005 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857838&viewfull=1#post2053857838)
didistetterSyn#1047 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857880&viewfull=1#post2053857880)
NewcombSyn#1053 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857886&viewfull=1#post2053857886)
ColonelLubridermSyn#1066 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857899&viewfull=1#post2053857899)
dyacheiSyn#1079 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857912&viewfull=1#post2053857912)
didistettertheknightsofneeee#1110 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857943&viewfull=1#post2053857943)
ColonelLubridermRaskolnikov#1112 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857945&viewfull=1#post2053857945)
JanRaskolnikov#1115 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857948&viewfull=1#post2053857948)
MontMorencyRaskolnikov#1170 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858003&viewfull=1#post2053858003)
GemmaSyn#1173 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858006&viewfull=1#post2053858006)
dyacheisheepsaysmeep#1174 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858007&viewfull=1#post2053858007)
insomniaSyn#1186 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858019&viewfull=1#post2053858019)
theknightsofneeeeSyn#1193 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858026&viewfull=1#post2053858026)
didistetterSyn#1195 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858028&viewfull=1#post2053858028)
MapleRaskolnikov#1196 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858029&viewfull=1#post2053858029)
ArcticSyn#1204 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858037&viewfull=1#post2053858037)
JanGemma#1206 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858039&viewfull=1#post2053858039)
MapleSyn#1207 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053858040&viewfull=1#post2053858040)




My personal state of affairs rn is:

Want more clarity on soonish:dyachei. reason: specifically for this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857912&viewfull=1#post2053857912). So this kinda reads like "ah im late for the cred" which, is the kinda stuff I and maybe others write a lot as a villa (and less so as wolf cuz im afraid it looks rly silly), however it feels really out of character for them? in my mental image of dya they are not a player who cares about being first or original or whatever because they are super meritocratic. feedback appreciated.
Jan. reason: don't like how he was readily absorbing the v-read on Syn into his own without any original reflection on the player I could read him off seperately. Seemed a bit like a mash powerwolf style in that he does the basic to get villas killed.
ender. reason: what (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155022-Tarot-Mafia?p=2053857923&viewfull=1#post2053857923) (just for this post ngl lol)


Want more clarity on, take #2:benneh. reason: kinda nothing on Syn I think?
Sunbae. reason: same?

this group is priority 2 because im sure they will be looked at anyway



Personally not interested in today, hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here anyway:Didistetter, ColonelLubriderm, Raskol, ladd, Newcomb, insomnia, Fartic.
Very different reasons tho.
Didistetter is just town for the same reason they were just town yesterday.
ColonelLubriderm. um I thought he was town yesterday and Syn probs makes him even better so? cool ig.
Raskolnikov. looks GTH like a patsy. I cant explain why that is, but all the takes he had on Syn felt to me like, ok that's something I write a lot as a villager with a wrong read on a wolf.
ladd/newcomb is just not logical to look at rn imo.
insomnia i believe handling of syn at eod is generally not how he wolves. i find he is relatively reliable on his meta as a wolf and doesnt mix it up a lot.
fartic. um. tricky. but also he is very good at self-resolving anyway. (full disclosure for both insom and fartic, those people i am both familiar with so its just personally +EV for me to be biased towards them. I'll try to be fair anyway)




very gth and slightly townish from the spew I saw, didnt think about it a lot tho:Wisdom, theknightsofneee (i dont rly get why everyone found them confusing in the first place? is it a meta thing?).



Other names that are in the PL: Gemma, Monte, sheep, Vanta, C0balt, MapleUmm. I just cant put them in a bin for how interesting i find them. They are just gaps, if I have the time (hopefully) I'll get to them. (I realise some of these have been super focused just not for me. Don't get me wrong there are definitely likely wolves in here I just didnt get to them yet for arbitrary reasons, some of them being I literally forgot they are in the game).

I will consider legacies, but probably not anymore tonight cuz I intend to go to sleep immediately. Also, just so you know how I got there is like, I just ctrl+f'd "Syn" over the whole game. Didnt have time to do more yet.

[Raskolnikov]

tx for the vote history Grrr (ur vote on me yesterDay wins the worst reason to vote someone award though :curtain:)

[ColonelLubriderm]

rasko i thought you were the syn whisperer

[Raskolnikov]

22. sheepsaysmeep

3. Didistetter
11. grr - I really buy the LAMIST (stuff from the thread as well) about how they are meta obviously town. especially if they are purportedly 'stilted' as wolf they seem comfortable here so ok lol
14. Wisdom
17. Newcomb I think - has been constantly trending up like throughout the day lol

12. EnderWiggin
13. insomnia

2. Arctic

1. dyachei - I actually would townread the no-nonsense vibe, but since they said beforehand they would be like this in an NAI way it is probably actually NAI
9. Jan
8. ladd - gut pings but he did dislike basically the exact same things about TKON that I did
16. ColonelLubriderm - had some towny moments but probably the most easily fakeable out of all the towny moments so far. actually now that I think about him I'd put him a tier lower maybe. seems like maybe he's trying too hard to have towny moments
20. Theknightsofneeee - unironically I think him making a mini deal out of "I have a decent chance to be elimmed today" and saying "im just struggling with this format" multiple times are kinda towny when I dont even think his situation was that bad and not really a self-defense approach that comes to mind for a wolf maybe
21. C0balt

-- I would maybe draw a line here ? --

5. nebjiamn
6. Sunbae

10. Gemma
18. Maple

(none of these are like actual outright scumreads TBH )

Separate category:

4. Vanta Black
19. Montmorency
7. Raskolnikov (just have no idea)
15. Syn

meh, I felt like maybe im townleaning people too generously so I tried a bit to compensate and I feel like I still am lol

if people want to ask for explanations or stuff there's a chance I do not want to blah blah

Sunbae: tbh I just think I confused you with sheep or gemma because it's their readlist (which are kinda similar on the lower side) I was targeting with "kinda sorted by expected ww competence". "Consensual" was not the right word because I have been just washed irl for the D1 timeline smh. "safe" would be a better description of what I had in mind re these readlist. So, guess sorry about it from a solving pov. Good news is that I now have the time.

[dyachei]

I think rask looks like a very likely syn partner. Ender didn't come off great either in reading interactions. Rask post #179 particularly pinged me as w/w

[grr]

yeah i have no thots on these deaths rn exept ladd dying would have left a somewhat clearer legacy ig becuz i dont remember newcomb havent had a fully developed readslist, might have dont remember, gn lol.

[grr]

tx for the vote history Grrr (ur vote on me yesterDay wins the worst reason to vote someone award though :curtain:)

thxx u doin my best

[Raskolnikov]

rasko i thought you were the syn whisperer

I thought too :hide:

[Raskolnikov]

I think rask looks like a very likely syn partner. Ender didn't come off great either in reading interactions. Rask post #179 particularly pinged me as w/w

Can u link it if u have that in a tab or something

[Raskolnikov]

nvm I'll dig Dya, should on page 9 for me :p

[Maple]

I was inverted last night. Not sure what that means.

Will be more conservative with posts today lol

[ColonelLubriderm]

if rasko is a wolf, im never killing jan

[didistetter]

sooooo

im assuming that means we dont have a doc?

bummer

cause if doc wasnt on newcomb what even lol.

i rlly rlly rlly hope the sheep kill is mafia kp b/c if town shot someone the flipped maf was votecamped on...... bruh

[Dolby]

sup i have basically not read a word, going through the syn iso



The syn villa reads are weird. Syn will be readable and there is no reason to force it this early.




excuse me but I am mysterious and unknowable

maybe a slightly town look for Jan that Syn choose to respond this way but eh I'm reaching


Kinda agree lol. I read 2 pages and I wanna kill the colonel and Vanta. Syn is town. Never rescind


suspiciously early read on me

kinda want to call Rask wrong town off of this but I also don't really know Syn's wolf meta. To be clear this is NOT because I think this is a real push, it probably wasn't, but rather I think that he is more inclined to engage with Rask, someone he knows well in this manner as v/w


disagree gemma is very niceys


i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring




but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep


wtf man

ladd v but the thread is probably already there?


Vote: sheepsaysmeep

idk what the vote count is here but this felt important to grab


town:
newcomb
maple
dyachei
gemma

idk fine i guess:
nebjiamn
didistetter
sunbae
grr
insomnia
c0balt

i can't recall a single post/no opinion:
arctic
vanta black
theknightsofneeee

why (diet version):
enderwiggin
colonellubriderm

why:
raskolnikov
wisdom
jan
sheepsaysmeep



are hally and montmorency actually playing this game or are they in the player list for the lulz

another post I'm grabbing to look into later


looks at my poe

looks at this post

looks at my poe

looks at this post

surely it cannot be
first actually strong non-associative I'm getting from here. I don't think that Syn does this if Wisdom is w. Syn is calling out Wisdom and Jan for masoning when he has them both in his bottom three. I kind of think he just goes a different direction here as wolf rather than actually engage with this post if Wisdom is wolf, especially since I think that if Wisdom w Jan v this kinda traps him on Wisdom later on but idk I'd have to know the vote count when this post was made

Syn interacts a lot with Dya which I think is loosely not associated and I think that Rask could just be a pocketed villager

Gonna try to read the thread now

[dyachei]

oh yeah and bop looked good as did arctic and ladd iirc

[ColonelLubriderm]

sooooo

im assuming that means we dont have a doc?

bummer

cause if doc wasnt on newcomb what even lol.

i rlly rlly rlly hope the sheep kill is mafia kp b/c if town shot someone the flipped maf was votecamped on...... bruh

there is zero chance sheep shot is mafia kp

[grr]

ngl raskols takes on syn just read wrong but villagery. feel reasonably confident about that, but im out for real now. cya tomorrow have fun.

[didistetter]

grr can i hear why rask is in that townpile for you?

he's like

giga viably paired with syn imo.

curious what you're thinking to the contrary?

i actually tr dya off eod stuff. i agree the show post felt potentially cred grabby, but they ditched voting syn to vote on the same wagon as syn, despite sheep not having a real chance at going over

that feels like kinda an uninformed progression?

[Raskolnikov]

oh y no actually dya. Someone mentionned it D1 (maybe ladd?), but like it's not something I'd do particularlly since Syn (and I :curtain:) may flip sooner rather than later. I get it won't help you but that's basically it. Like no need to tie myself to a partner with my first content post lol

[didistetter]

there is zero chance sheep shot is mafia kp

im very very very very salty then

:P

dw i was obviously never town vig so i aint bothering to cover

[ColonelLubriderm]

id still kill gemma

[insomnia]

sheep is villa kp

does this mean we sniped the wolf kp in syn yesterday?

[dyachei]

im very very very very salty then

:P

dw i was obviously never town vig so i aint bothering to cover

it's not a bad thing because we can analyze wagons

[didistetter]

oh yeah and bop looked good as did arctic and ladd iirc

why does ladd look good?

bop and arctic agree.

[Dolby]

if there was a wolf in the first three posters its probably gemma; solely for thinking syn has the more villagy post between syn/didistetter

this is actually lock v

[Raskolnikov]

if rasko is a wolf, im never killing jan

Good, he is on the menu then.


SPeaking of which, Jan why didn't u consider I could be villla actually at EOD?

[dyachei]

why does ladd look good?

bop and arctic agree.

I read his ISO overnight and dont think he looked paired with syn

[didistetter]

Vote: Maple

anyways.

gonna backread :3

i dont think sheep flips rlly helps at all but im probs biased b/c he was blatant town fmpov. i dont get the kill given a mafia was voting him but ill try to not be rude. im sure vig had their reasons. im also sure this probs makes vig giga findable to scum so thats unlucky

[Montmorency]

Dang, this player list really likes to stretch that postcap. Fully half with at least 85%.

[ColonelLubriderm]

if rasko is a wolf, im never killing jan

the reason is because jan came in at the end of day berating us that is we are gonna kill syn that rasko makes sense to kill first, thats when i switched to rasko to see if jan would come along;

I don't think jan is going to come in at the end of the day, as a wolf try to stop traction on the wolf syn wagon only to push it towards a wolf!rasko wagon. I mean sure maybe some role things are at play but what im getting at is that i think he doesnt do it to another wolfbro.


however, i could see jan as a wolf do the above knowing that rasko is a villa and that rasko has a god read on syn, so if rasko goes over syn rasko v flip gives syn a bit of air.

However, i can also see a world where jan does the same as a villa because what he said does have some reason to it. things ill worry about in the future

[Maple]

I was inverted last night. Not sure what that means.

Will be more conservative with posts today lol

>rand village action targeting my slot, depending what this means.

Gonna laugh if this ends up being a loud douse.

Syn slipping me into top village for no reason is nagl, I'm sure ??

In any case, slotting stet and knights into v for the moment. I'm not feeling the need to go back on any of my prior v leans at this moment.

Interested in ender and wisdom to start with, thinking about some other peeps too.

[ColonelLubriderm]

sheep is villa kp

does this mean we sniped the wolf kp in syn yesterday?

wolves probably dont have a full vig; but hey ive been wrong before